February 24, 2025 • 34 mins
On this episode of WNTTLK, Nyla Symone sits with special guest Iceware Vezzo who hares his journey from a young entrepreneur in Detroit to a rising star in the rap industry. He discusses the challenges of maintaining a healthy lifestyle while on the road, the impact of politics on personal relationships and the unique sound of Detroit rap that often goes unacknowledged. Vezzo also shares his upcoming film projects, the transformative power of shrooms and more. Tune in and comment in the socials below.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
I have grown on the moon and you're looking.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
I'm trying to get damn with you. What's good your boys?
Speaker 3 (00:10):
When what's up to you?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Girl?
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Money long and you're not?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
You need to talk my girl knowledge with you.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
We need to get.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
You. Would never believe me. I don't think anybody would
believe me unless they was there. It's a lot of
people that do believe because they've seen it.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
They was there. Okay, this is so unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Almost feel embarrassed to say I was twelve years old
when I bought my first car and the lack of acknowledgement.
I feel like it's just bogus, you know, because when
every any any region or any city that kind of
changed the sound up the rap game, acknowledge that, you know.
It ain't like that with Detroit take a whole sound
and just be like, yeah, it don't even matter.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
The older I get, the less I like people. Damn
you said that fast?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
What it does?
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Draink ouy icewear Bezel go check on my new sound
bad Habits.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Right now, what's up now that we need to talk?
We need to talk, Nila, what's happening? Okay? Cool? Call me?
We need to talk. I got a lot to talk about.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
What's going on guys. Now, let's go on here with
another episode.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
That we need to talk now today I have a
very special guest in the building.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
We got ice wear visseil here.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
What it do? What it do?
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Now? How are you?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
I'm feeling blessed? Everything good?
Speaker 4 (01:35):
All it's well, you know, cool and family good, love
that great fit.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Honestly, the hat is doing it for me. But now
that I'm paying attention to the whole thing, this is
a really.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
I got some details going on. I dressed myself too.
Really take pride in being able to say that what
type of jacket is this?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I don't know that. I love that like that.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
I love the ordination, yeah, even.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Though they don't look like the traditional ones.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yeah, but it's all good though, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
They like they like in between sneaker, class slash classy.
You know what I'm saying, got a little mix of
both up in there. Chain kind of on the tuck side,
you know. You gotta yeah, keep it kind of class.
Can't pull it out every time I see it.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1 (02:27):
How are you feeling?
Speaker 4 (02:28):
I'm feeling good. I'm feeling blessed. Yeah, yeah, you've been
doing good so far. My Juice bar doing really good.
With my wife, Juice bar Bar doing extremely well. She
turned into a believer, so I think she kind of
see like I'm trying to ride her coattail a little bit.
I love that, Like you ain't believe at first, then
you gotta come to this meeting you heard, but yeah,
(02:49):
I'm coming here.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Yeah, I'm investing.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
I love that. Y'all gonna expand that absolutely.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Yeah, we're not gonna do no franchising though, but I'm
we're gonna pay for different locations out of our pocket.
We just don't want to do no franchising because we
take pride and you know the way we are processing,
the way we do everything.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
You know, how franchises go.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
It turns shit shows sometimes, so when we don't want that,
that's true.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Yeah, not gonna lie.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
I hate the Chick fil A in New York, but
if I'm down South, I love.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
It, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
So imagine if every Chick fil A was like the
one down South that you love.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
This is true.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Yeah, So okay, what is like the recipe that you
think would be missing if you were to like expand it,
just the communal point.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I think.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
I think that, and I also think the passion part.
You know, it's hard to get other people to be
passionate about your business, however, but but but it ain't
so hard finding people that's passionate about being healthy, you know.
So yeah, I think that process would be way too long.
And it's just everything overall, just everything.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
You know.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
You don't want nobody lacking on the way we make
our juices and ordering fake, ordering different ingredients, like you know,
not making not the fruit, not being organs, cutting corners
to save money, you know. And it's easy for people
to do that, especially when you're not watching over them,
you know. So we just don't want to be in
that position for.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Us, understood. I love that shout out to your wife. Man, Yeah, boss,
good leader. Yeah, I mean y'all together.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Yeah, look, I don't want no problem. But okay, so
the healthy lifestyle, how is that? Being on the road
in traveling.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
It's horrible. For me, It's terrible. I'm not gonna lie,
it's terrible. Every time I get out of town, I'd
be like, all right, look, I ain't eat no bulls shit.
You know what I'm saying, eat the right shit. I
ain't eating after seven o'clock, nine o'clock, I got all kind.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Of food lamb chops.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Like, man, I'm terrible on it. Bro, It's horrible, terrible, terrible.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
What did you eat out here?
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Some well we ate spark steak out yesterday. It was
it was all right, it was decent. You know what
I'm saying. My boys ship looked like he had Sadsbury steak.
But it's all gangs today.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yeah, that's really it.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Slice of pizza, which I shouldn't ate because I don't
like you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Oh my god?
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Did Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:07):
That was na the stak. I'm here for everything else
that time. You gotta let me know. I'll send some recks.
I'm not sure you're good.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Did I had a sugary gatorade or I fucked up? No?
Speaker 3 (05:18):
I'm not fucking with gatorade no more. I mean, I
know I see the list of like things that cause cancer.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Every it says.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Everything that ship serious, that ship serious like that, those
those certain ingredients and you know, you know you want
to the crazy part. A lot of ingredients that's in
a lot of our products here. They're not They're not
in the products in other countries, and it'd be the
same exact product, but the ingredients not there.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Does that make you want to leave this country?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
It don't make me want to leave the country. It
just made me want to lead the country.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Oh my drop on that one hold up for president.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
That was quick though, that that was quick.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
That was quick.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
That was really good, all right, But.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Out it is it's just it's it's time consuming as well.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
And then when you go to the organic section, the
ship is this big.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Everything else is like that ship super It's tough.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
At home, it's good, you know what I'm saying. I
got my wife, she do the cook she do everything.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
You do it.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
But out of town it's over. It's a done deal.
Cakes all kind of ship.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
I'm not gonna lie between the food ship politics, the
food and politics.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
I'm ready to leave this country.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
No, I feel you this ship, this ship horror right now,
everything just kind of I don't know, I feel like
the energy is just terrible. Don't nobody want to communicate
with each other? Nobody want to listen to each other?
You know, everybody feel like they got the answers, and
you know, no matter whatever side you on, it's like
it's just a bunch of combativeness versus like, all right, listen,
(06:54):
why is it that you think this is true? And
I tell you why I think this is true, and
will both outsource the actual facts about this. Let's see
who's right. We get this understanding, we can move on
to the next conversation. I know family that stopped dealing
with each other thirty forty year relationships. This is family,
you know, family over politics because they voted for two
(07:17):
different people.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
And I don't think that makes any sense. I don't
understand that.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
I do understand people having their own ideologies and having
their own beliefs, But for me, I feel like politics
is pretty much a personal a personal decision, you know,
that's what that's something you do on your personal time.
I think politics is almost like religion, Like it doesn't
it don't have to be shared with the person to
(07:42):
the left, for the person to the right, or in
front of or Becky or It's like, it don't have
to be shared. You know, that's something personal. That's like
speaking on what you're doing in a badroom. You don't
have to do.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
It rather you're not.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Yeah, you know, yeah exactly, but we do it, you know.
And the crazy thing is you can viobe with a person.
Y'all can have a lot of ship in common, you know,
the conversation can be doing great, y'all agree on a
lot of things and everything love, and then a moment
politics come and play, and then you see you got
two different opinions. Now you hate this person, you know,
(08:15):
you hate the person that you was just vibing with. You,
you get what I'm saying. So it's like, I think
we need to and and and it's hard to get
people to do that. But I think, like, you know,
taking the personal feelings out of just out of ship period.
You know, I think the only the only thing that
what personal feelings make a lot of sense is is religion,
(08:38):
you know, because that's that's religion, is your salvation, that's
what you're based on your salvation on. So I feel
like it's okay to be a little bit and it does,
it does. I don't think either one is worth disrespecting
each other or you know, slamming the dough on each other.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
And she I don't.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
I don't think either one is. I'm saying as far
as the passion go religion, that makes sense, you know,
to be passionate about that.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
You know, I agree for sure, passion to your commitment
for the for.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Your faith and for your belief.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
But the passion that we got for for politics and politicians,
I don't think it makes it just don't make sense.
And at the end of the day, you know, them
folks on the same team. They literally colleagues. Literally, they
literally are colleagues. They hang together, they go to the
same dinners and Christmas parties, they go to each other's
(09:30):
kids graduation. They know how to cut that ship on
and they know how to cut that ship off. It
shit like w w E. It's a it's a great
storyline in front of the camera for us. But when
they get behind the scenes, they in the gym together,
they working out, you know, but we ready to tell
each other head off.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
So I'm with you on that.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Like the food, politics, just a lot of shit, streets,
ship everything, It's just it's just terrible cloud Cloud.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
That's a bad motherfucker right there.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Yeah, honestly, I don't even pay that, you know mine
no more.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
I feel like I feel like I have gotten to
a place where It's just like if that shit don't
got nothing to do with me. Yeah, that shit don't
got nothing to do. I don't even want to know.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
I don't want to fuck it.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Like, you know, how am I benefiting off this show?
This shit? Yeah, so I'm cool, it don't even matter.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
How are you protecting your energy? You have like a
daily ritual? You I feel like you're the type of
person who has like a routine.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
I mean, I pray five times a day. You know.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
That helped me out, except for when I'm on the road.
You know, you're on the roads, make your prayers together,
shorten the prayers because you're traveling or whatever.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
But pretty much that, you know, I.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Try to go in when I'm in the when I'm
in the city, I go in the house at a
certain time.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
I go in the house every night, you know.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Before nine to ten, ship like that, just to try
to catch my kids before they go to bed.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
No, I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
I wouldn't say I got like a daily, daily ritual,
but I do got ways to just protect my mind,
I said, in protecting my energy, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
And I think what I do with that is just
not give a fuck. That's like, the.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Best shit you can do is not give a fuck.
When you don't give a fuck, nothing matters, you know.
It's the shit that's supposed to matter. Only thing that
matters the things that do give a fuck, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
So yeah, great piece of advice. So when I first
met you, I want to say that was like twenty ninth.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Eighteen, eighteen or nineteen.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Man, so much has changed in hip hop and then rap,
but especially for Detroit. How do you feel about Detroit's
influence and rap, because I feel like it's definitely there.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
I just don't know if it's really acknowledged.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
They ain't acknowledged at all.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
It's not even a really it's not acknowledged at all whatsoever,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
And even as far as Detroit go, like Detroit.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
We got our own sound, but even within Detroit, it's
still different sounds, you know what I mean. I think
like when I got out of jail, everybody was rapping
on a certain type of sound, you know what I mean.
And I tried it out for a minute and then
I said, fuck this shit, I'm gonna rap on the beasts.
That I rap on, which is a more slower, slower
(12:14):
beat with a stronger, stronger base, real like real gritty,
like just raw shit, tough, super tough shit. Because what't
nobody rapping on the beats front Detroit? They fell back
and started rapping on other ship. So I attacked it,
you know what I mean kind of I brought that
part that sound of Detroit back and then see other
Detroit artists do it. They helped me turn the ship
(12:36):
up even more, you know it compliment it, compliment each other.
When when two turn motherfuckers, you know, pushing one sound.
But then when the rest of the world did it,
you know what I mean, it's just like it's cool.
But the but the the lack of acknowledgement, I feel
like it's just bogus, you know, because when every any
any region or any city that kind of changed the
(12:58):
sound up the rap game, know that, you know, we
we we we we appreciated them folks for doing that,
and we acknowledge them. It ain't like that with Detroit.
Fucking take a whole sound and just be like fuck them,
they don't even matter. Like Nigga Nigga act like they
never even heard of Detroit nigga rap like it's that ship.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
I don't know. I think that shit weak and weird.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
But what do you think it is? Why do you
think it is?
Speaker 2 (13:25):
I don't know. It can be ego. You know.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Everybody ain't used to getting money, you know what I'm saying, Like,
I'm a real get money nigga. I have money my
whole life since I've been adult. You heard like I
was a turn nigga in the city before I was
ice war vessel, Like I always been well known all
of that shit. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
And I met you. They was like, Yo, this is
the guy out there.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
I'm like, oh my god, you know what I'm saying,
And I think what it is a lot of dudes,
you know, they get the recognition and the money start
coming in, a little fame start coming so and it
be the ego like I acknowledge you. No niggas like
you know, niggas start looking at it like a business.
I guess I don't know. I ain't gonna do that
far I acknowledge them. It'll turn them niggas, don't.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
I don't know. I don't got the answers on why.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
It's just you know, I think that can be one
of the reasons, but it niggas don't do it at all, whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
But what made you want to like pivot production and
sound wise and take a different approach with your recording.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Because of those type of beast is what I always
felt comfortable on, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Naturally, it just was always my thing.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
But when I when I got out and I signed
the motime, I think I was I know, I was
intentionally trying to come with different shit, trying to be different,
trying to see if I can, if I can make
this shit work with I say, bigger and broader production
or whatever. I didn't feel comfortable doing that shit, so
I got back to wrapping on thirty dollars beats, you
know what I mean, shit.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
With up.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Beats.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Hey, gotta start somewhere. Talk to me about your situation
with QC.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Are you signed to QC?
Speaker 2 (15:06):
I'm independent, independent, being dependent for the last year and
a half.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Oh okay, yeah, were you signed to QC.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Yeah, we had a partnership fifty fifty going on.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Okay, but then once they went to the new people then.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Yeah, yeah, we kind of split up. Okay.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
I was confused about that, all right?
Speaker 3 (15:24):
And since we're on the topic of Detroit, are we
getting an ice per visit Babyface right tape?
Speaker 2 (15:31):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
I just feel like should know.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Everybody always asks me that, and I know they asked
him that.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
I don't know, possibly, Babe.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
I just don't understand what's the hold up?
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Because our chemistry on the music is just crazy, you
know what I'm saying. Like every time me and Face
do a something, the bitch go all the way up,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
I don't know, but I don't know. Maybe soon, maybe not.
Maybe so oh my god, I.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Just feel like it should be I'm just putting it
in the air for twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
That would be a great, great little gift to us.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
I'm just saying, figure that shit out, Okay. So what
else do we have going on for twenty twenty five?
Speaker 2 (16:11):
I'm releasing a movie called Rid Schaer.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
I executive produced it, I co wrote it, and I'm
acting in it. It's a it's it's like a I
ain't gonna call it. It's like a rhyme com but
I ain't gonna really put the comedy.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
All the way in there. I ain't. I ain't.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
I don't feel like I'm a funny nigga, you know
what I'm saying. So it's more so like a romantic joint.
But it's a lot of funny shit in there. Okay, Yeah,
I just got I just got the edit back this morning.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
It's crazy.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
Yeah, so after I gotta get it colored and we
got to send it to scoring. Finished it finished, the
eighty r work on it. Yeah, it's dropping.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
You heard.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
It's my third film that I produced, wrote and yeah,
acted in what Yeah, that's my third one. I got
a film production company. I stuff films.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
I love movies. I love it. I love this ship
like I got a real passion for that ship.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Oh no, I gotta go back and watch the first
are the first two wrong coms as well?
Speaker 2 (17:07):
No, the first two serious movies.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
The second, yeah, way more so than the third is
wrong com the third one.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Yeah, I think.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
I'm gonna be easy on it. I'm gonna be easy
on saying the calm comedy part. You heard, But it's romantic.
It's romantic.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
You know. It's hard to get black people to laugh
that ain't.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
No, it's not.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
These comedians don't be that funny to getting mad love online.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
I'm like, I don't get it.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Yeah, well yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Let me wait, But you co wrote it.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
So I created the entire movie, like I created the storyline.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
You bring no funny writers in to help you with
the jokes.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
I did. I did.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Come on, Smith, I brought him in, So that's what
will make me the co writer.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
I don't know how to like physically write a script.
I don't know how to do that yet. I don't
even got the type of time, you know. So I
brought in Kamara Smith. He a funny dude, you are?
Speaker 1 (18:05):
And yeah, so what is this rom com based off of?
Speaker 4 (18:08):
So it's called ride share, right, It's about a little dude,
him and his girl.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
She a singer.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
She want a record deal, She get pregnant, They engaged,
she can't work. He got a job, but it's not enough,
so they kind of panicking. They need more money. She
convinced no, actually its homie convinced him to be a
lyft driver, and he real reluctant against doing this shit,
but he think about his unborn child, so he don't
(18:35):
do it. But then, like the front is a baby,
I'm about to say baby mama, his fiance's friend.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
She worked for a record label. Her boss.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
You know, he always take lifts from you know, when
it's late to his house. So he get this bright idea,
which is not bright at all. It don't even make sense.
And it's like, what's the odds of you actually picking
his picking his dude up? So then he like, you
know what, what I guess I would do the lyft driving.
He try to work hard to get the guy who
own the record label in the car. However, right but
(19:08):
when he would come of lyft driver, every ride he
go on, it's just some wild, fucked up shit. It's
just it's just crazy. Every single ride.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
I can see that's actually good.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Every single ride.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
I knows be hearing me say some wild ship.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
He go through a bunch of like wow ship like
one of the rides. Uh.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
He he dropped a take a girl somewhere.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
She real sweet, she being real nice.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
And you know, you've ever been in an uber or
a lyft You like, hey, can I pay you extra
to wait on me?
Speaker 3 (19:38):
You know?
Speaker 4 (19:39):
So she do she do that? She pay him extra.
She get out the car, she start banging on the door.
She catch her, She catch her dude cheating with another girl.
So the dude come out the house and he think
the lyft driver is a nigga that she brought over.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
So he like, you know, bit you tweaking on me?
You got a nigga a car? He pull a gun
out on who the driver got to pull off it?
Speaker 4 (20:01):
Ship like that. It's just a rodeo every every ride.
It's just crazy. This is good, wow, Ship.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
I'm looking forward to that.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
What I want to drop it?
Speaker 4 (20:10):
I want to say June, but I think I'm gonna
save it to September. I don't really like during summer
movie releases. I think far usually a better vibe.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
That's fire.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Yeah, damn, I can't wait to watch it. Okay, So
movies on the way, Yeah, music on.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
The way, music, music always on the way.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
I know you just gave it a single. I'm over
here asking for more, but.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Yes, do you have a project in mind for.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
This year or as far as music right?
Speaker 4 (20:44):
Yeah, I'm gonna drop rich off planks for me and
my homeboy, June and the Jeans. We got a project
coming out. It's called a Purple Tape. Yeah, I'm dropping music. Yeah,
I might drop two. I might drop both of those
mixtapes in same month. Do some weird shit, I like,
do crazy shit. When I'm independent, you just do anything.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
You right, you know what I'm saying. I ain't mad
at that.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Just do anything.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
How long are these tapes?
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Though?
Speaker 3 (21:09):
It's given like Gucci back into two thousand and eight,
right exactly.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Yeah, that's how I'm playing it.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Oh my god, I'm actually here.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
For got eight songs on it though, eight go like
twelve on the bitch.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Oh that's good.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
When you independent, it makes sense to just flood do
whatever you want to do it and let go of
the professionalism and trying to be ways way too strategic
and overthink this shit. Fuck this shit, you know what
I mean. It don't cost me nothing to make music.
I genuinely love this shit. So it is what it is.
I get this ship out, they gonna fuck with it,
ain't gonna fuck with it. I don't care about nothing.
(21:43):
I don't care about numbers, I don't care about views, likes,
I don't give a fuck about none of that.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Already made some money. I'm cool and my family good.
It is what it is. I'm having fun with this shit.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
You all know, what's so funny about this is that
you are literally the same from what I mentioned.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Six years ago.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Like, same attitude, same energy, same aura, even though you've
accomplished so much doubt since the last time I seen you.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
That's a good as a compliment, compliment, thank you?
Speaker 1 (22:16):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
All right, So let's get into this game. We play
call questions that need answers. All you have to do
is fill in the blank.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Okay, all right.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
The older I get, the less.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
I like people.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Damn you said that fast understood. Okay, I think I
can understand that. Yeah, like people.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
I'm mixed emotions about it. It's like I love people,
I just don't want to deal with you all the.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Time all the time. It's a good way to go
about that.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Sometimes I look back at my life, and.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
Sometimes I look back in my life and reflect and
reflect the lot.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
I do you feel good? You feel bad?
Speaker 2 (23:05):
You know?
Speaker 4 (23:05):
I think about a lot of people. Okay, it's not
here with me that I lost. No, I do feel good.
And I like to reflect because sometimes I get unmotivated,
you know, so I got to look back to get
remotivated thinking about the ship that I've been through.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
What I came from.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Have you ever reflected on shrooms?
Speaker 2 (23:26):
No? I haven't.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
No, how is it? It's great?
Speaker 2 (23:30):
It is?
Speaker 1 (23:31):
It's great. You might but what do people be.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Talking about when they say, like trip.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
They taking too much everything and everything? And what is it? Dosage?
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Yeah, like if you take the right amount microdose essentially, Yeah,
microdose is good.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
I do shrooms. Like how is it though?
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Like it's like it's like wearing glasses, Like if you
got bad vision and you put your glasses on and
then you can see clearly.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
That's what. But for your thought, you got a lot
going on, and you're.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Like, man, I don't know, or like should I do
at least for me personally, I'll do shrooms and I
know exactly what I need to.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Be out when you do this? Ship or is it
best to be at home?
Speaker 1 (24:12):
No? No, you function normal. You could well sorry but
you could drive, you could work, you can.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
You'll probably just be nice as fuck, like and everybody's
like that why they's so happy?
Speaker 1 (24:23):
But yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
I gotta try to ship.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
I recommend ten out of ten.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
But yeah, but I will say my first like three
times doing it, I cried a lot, but it wasn't
like I was sad crying. It was like I was
crying because I was so happy to be.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Understanding, right to just under Yeah, it's like, wow, that
is why, and this is why.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
Oh, I gotta try.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
I gotta try to. I gotta try.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
I think you should.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
I want too. Seriously, Okay, I think I need to. Yeah,
I think I need to.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Yes, if you okay, if you do, and when you
do write a song about the clarity, yeah, it's gonna.
I'm just I want to know. Next time I see you,
I'm gonna inquire.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Leta try tonight at the studio?
Speaker 3 (25:22):
No, no, at the studio. Studio How we feel about studio?
I don't know if studio is good?
Speaker 1 (25:28):
You think so? Studio is your happy place?
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Yeah? Because I like recording.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Okay, okay, all right. Nature is my happy place. So
that's why I do it. Four walls is given to me. Like,
but okay, you would never believe me if I told you.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Oh, I got some stories for that line, some crazy.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Ship, give me one.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Oh man, you would never believe me.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
I don't think anybody would believe me unless they was there.
It's a lot of people that do believe because they've
seen it.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
They was there.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
Okay, this shit, this shit so unbelievable, almost feeling beards
to say.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Now, I feel like I just don't believe you, just
because you gave me so much. Like I was twelve.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Years old when I bought my first car.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
I was twelve years old and I had a weed
house and selling close to a pound a day in
nickel bags. I was twelve years old when I bought
my first ten pounds a week to sell.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Are you allowed to buy a car twelve?
Speaker 2 (26:32):
No.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
I had to hide it from my mom, but my
mother in law knew I had a car.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
She knew at twelve.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Yeah, it was why did you want how to drive?
Speaker 4 (26:44):
We're fun of trenks. We been new how to drive.
I was stealing cars, We've been new how to drive.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Yo, Detroit is not a real place.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
Yeah, But like, this shit sound unbelievable, Like I don't
even like talking about it. I had a conversation about
the shit a couple of weeks ago, and somebody posted,
They're like, bro, why would this nigga lie like that?
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Like? Who the why is you lying like that? Brother?
Like why would you say that? Nigga?
Speaker 4 (27:05):
Ain't no nigga sold pounds of weed at twelve years
They said, well, light on the life of my children.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
That happened.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
I had pounds of weed when I was twelve years old,
on my kids life, on my life, I did.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
So, Wait, what age did you learn how to drive?
Speaker 4 (27:21):
I'll say, like Leavin, my homeboy Kyle taught me in
a stolen car. I paid them ten dollars.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Yeah, no, you got scripts for days.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Okay, your real life? Is this good content? Like what?
Speaker 4 (27:37):
I don't never talk about this type of shit. It's
just so unbelievable. At the time, I thought it was normal.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
I thought this shit was regular. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
No, that's crazy. Did you all right? So when did
you actually go get your out.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Saying a nigga from nigga?
Speaker 4 (27:48):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (27:49):
That was in my high school. I had.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
I stopped going to high school in the ninth grade,
so uh no, like the first the first few weeks
of the tenth grade. A dude that that went to
my high school. I probably spoke to this dude one
time ever in my life. I know he is, he's
from my hud, but he a rat, he told them somebody,
so I respect him. His niggas. When somebody posted that video,
he said, domn So at what part did I know you?
(28:14):
It's just like, bro, it's fine, Yeah, it's crazy. You
think you understand what I'm saying. I think he was
saying like this, it didn't happen it.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Like you know me? Yeah, pack it up. Jay Z is.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Called to do it.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
The craziest thing that has happened to me on tour
had to be the time when.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
The craziest thing that happened to me on tour had
to be the time when.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
I don't know, I don't think they're really crazy.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
I don't believe it.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
But you were married, man, So I'm gonna let you be.
Ten years from now. I want my legacy to be.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Put everybody on that deserved it.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
That's tough. I love that. Blank is one movie I
can watch with the sound off.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Man, It's a Society.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
That's a good one.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Yeah, it's a good one.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Have you seen I'm curious now that I know you're
a movie buff. I'm not a movie buff, but I've
been getting recommendations and people are telling me like old
movies that are like must watch, And one of them
that they told me to watch was Pope Fiction.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
I haven't watched Pope fiction. They said that's a real class.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
They said that I hated it.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
I was just My favorite director is Martin Scorsese. Yeah yeah, dog.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
But why what is it about him?
Speaker 2 (29:46):
It's his writing, the writing.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
So he did a Good Fellas Casino, Yeah, he got
some ship.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Good Fellas is Fire.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
He also co uh co directed Boardwalk Empire. I don't know,
it's more so how in depth he go, whether the
stories be true or not. You know, most of the
films he do be based on a true story, But
I think the way he tell the stories, he was
he was the first to be able to put some
comedy and some tough, fucked up ship and the worst situations.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
You know, but was able to get you to laugh
about it.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
And I think on the back end of that as
a as a person watching that, you know, it's when
you're going through certain times and you feel like it
ain't no way out, ain't no, it ain't no other
way to go about the ship. I think, you know,
watching shit like that make it easier for you to
kind of sit back and laugh at the ship and
go about it different, like, you know what, maybe this
(30:42):
ship ain't that big of a deal, you know what
I'm saying. So yeah, but I think the storytelling everything.
I just the dude just like that with that ship.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Everything that's real.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
I like your point about the comedic.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Humor in a tough situation.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
When you digest.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Yeah, it makes a lot of sense. Okay, outside of rapping.
Blank is my favorite hobby.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
Outside of rapping, I got a lot of film acting, directing.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
By the end of twenty five, I hope to.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Make another ten.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Heard my favorite album of all time.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Is Juvenile four hundred degrees.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
M I'm so surprised to hear you say that, only
because you're from Detroit.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Actually, that's the only reason why I'm shocked.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Listen to them beasts.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
It's like that shit sounded like Detroit shit that we
kind of think about it, Juvenile four hundred degrees, all
them songs, that shit sounded like Detroit beats.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
I love that good Taste, Good Taste. That tiny Desk
is on repeat for me when I'm cleaning my house,
just like it's such as I love when ratchet things
things are turned classy, like you got white people with
the violin performing back that ass up like this is
this is art.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Okay. Last one is after my first rap check.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
I gave my family some money.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
I feel like you was already doing that. What's something
you wasn't doing?
Speaker 4 (32:30):
Yeah, but I gave them some real money, like you
know up by my Mama House Fire.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Yeah, buy my Mama House.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
I love that. But thank you for coming on the podcast.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
I appreciate your time. Shout out your grandma. Let everybody
know where they can follow you if they're doing already.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
I swear underscore vessel on all my social platforms.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Follow me. Let's get it.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
Go check my movie out Ride, Share coming soon, price
love out right now, tagged out right now.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
You know what I'm man, Let's get it. Oh yeah,
I got. I got me at a little.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
Eighty second roll in dr fromt Detroit on BT Plus.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Yeah, so I'm flexing that. You know what I mean?
I got. I'm flexing them.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Eighty second at least was in it. I'm flexing them.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
You know what I'm saying. No, but y'all go check
Dr from Detroit out right now. It's dope.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
She amazing person, hurt, she's just fired, amazing actor, amazing,
Everything is a legend. Like, yeah, she a real woman.
Stand up. You know what I'm saying. I just let
the way she carry herself, carry herself, her husband is amazing.
She just an amazing person, you know. And she inspired me.
She inspired me a lot, she genuinely do. And I
(33:45):
have no no, Senate, there's no reason to you know.
She literally inspired me, like in real life, you know,
so God bless her.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
She inspired all of us. Man. Yeah, I would flex
at eighty seconds.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
To nick If and I if I am mistaken, dr
wrote them eighty seconds.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Listen it. That's so kiddy.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Until next time, guys,
I have grown on the moon and you're looking.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
I'm trying to get damn with you. What's good your boys?
Speaker 3 (00:10):
When what's up to you?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Girl?
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Money long and you're not?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
You need to talk my girl knowledge with you.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
We need to get.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
You. Would never believe me. I don't think anybody would
believe me unless they was there. It's a lot of
people that do believe because they've seen it.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
They was there. Okay, this is so unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Almost feel embarrassed to say I was twelve years old
when I bought my first car and the lack of acknowledgement.
I feel like it's just bogus, you know, because when
every any any region or any city that kind of
changed the sound up the rap game, acknowledge that, you know.
It ain't like that with Detroit take a whole sound
and just be like, yeah, it don't even matter.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
The older I get, the less I like people. Damn
you said that fast?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
What it does?
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Draink ouy icewear Bezel go check on my new sound
bad Habits.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Right now, what's up now that we need to talk?
We need to talk, Nila, what's happening? Okay? Cool? Call me?
We need to talk. I got a lot to talk about.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
What's going on guys. Now, let's go on here with
another episode.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
That we need to talk now today I have a
very special guest in the building.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
We got ice wear visseil here.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
What it do? What it do?
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Now? How are you?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
I'm feeling blessed? Everything good?
Speaker 4 (01:35):
All it's well, you know, cool and family good, love
that great fit.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Honestly, the hat is doing it for me. But now
that I'm paying attention to the whole thing, this is
a really.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
I got some details going on. I dressed myself too.
Really take pride in being able to say that what
type of jacket is this?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I don't know that. I love that like that.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
I love the ordination, yeah, even.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Though they don't look like the traditional ones.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yeah, but it's all good though, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
They like they like in between sneaker, class slash classy.
You know what I'm saying, got a little mix of
both up in there. Chain kind of on the tuck side,
you know. You gotta yeah, keep it kind of class.
Can't pull it out every time I see it.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1 (02:27):
How are you feeling?
Speaker 4 (02:28):
I'm feeling good. I'm feeling blessed. Yeah, yeah, you've been
doing good so far. My Juice bar doing really good.
With my wife, Juice bar Bar doing extremely well. She
turned into a believer, so I think she kind of
see like I'm trying to ride her coattail a little bit.
I love that, Like you ain't believe at first, then
you gotta come to this meeting you heard, but yeah,
(02:49):
I'm coming here.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Yeah, I'm investing.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
I love that. Y'all gonna expand that absolutely.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Yeah, we're not gonna do no franchising though, but I'm
we're gonna pay for different locations out of our pocket.
We just don't want to do no franchising because we
take pride and you know the way we are processing,
the way we do everything.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
You know, how franchises go.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
It turns shit shows sometimes, so when we don't want that,
that's true.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Yeah, not gonna lie.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
I hate the Chick fil A in New York, but
if I'm down South, I love.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
It, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
So imagine if every Chick fil A was like the
one down South that you love.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
This is true.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Yeah, So okay, what is like the recipe that you
think would be missing if you were to like expand it,
just the communal point.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I think.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
I think that, and I also think the passion part.
You know, it's hard to get other people to be
passionate about your business, however, but but but it ain't
so hard finding people that's passionate about being healthy, you know.
So yeah, I think that process would be way too long.
And it's just everything overall, just everything.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
You know.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
You don't want nobody lacking on the way we make
our juices and ordering fake, ordering different ingredients, like you know,
not making not the fruit, not being organs, cutting corners
to save money, you know. And it's easy for people
to do that, especially when you're not watching over them,
you know. So we just don't want to be in
that position for.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Us, understood. I love that shout out to your wife. Man, Yeah, boss,
good leader. Yeah, I mean y'all together.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Yeah, look, I don't want no problem. But okay, so
the healthy lifestyle, how is that? Being on the road
in traveling.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
It's horrible. For me, It's terrible. I'm not gonna lie,
it's terrible. Every time I get out of town, I'd
be like, all right, look, I ain't eat no bulls shit.
You know what I'm saying, eat the right shit. I
ain't eating after seven o'clock, nine o'clock, I got all kind.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Of food lamb chops.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Like, man, I'm terrible on it. Bro, It's horrible, terrible, terrible.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
What did you eat out here?
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Some well we ate spark steak out yesterday. It was
it was all right, it was decent. You know what
I'm saying. My boys ship looked like he had Sadsbury steak.
But it's all gangs today.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yeah, that's really it.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Slice of pizza, which I shouldn't ate because I don't
like you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Oh my god?
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Did Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:07):
That was na the stak. I'm here for everything else
that time. You gotta let me know. I'll send some recks.
I'm not sure you're good.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Did I had a sugary gatorade or I fucked up? No?
Speaker 3 (05:18):
I'm not fucking with gatorade no more. I mean, I
know I see the list of like things that cause cancer.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Every it says.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Everything that ship serious, that ship serious like that, those
those certain ingredients and you know, you know you want
to the crazy part. A lot of ingredients that's in
a lot of our products here. They're not They're not
in the products in other countries, and it'd be the
same exact product, but the ingredients not there.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Does that make you want to leave this country?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
It don't make me want to leave the country. It
just made me want to lead the country.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Oh my drop on that one hold up for president.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
That was quick though, that that was quick.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
That was quick.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
That was really good, all right, But.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Out it is it's just it's it's time consuming as well.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
And then when you go to the organic section, the
ship is this big.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Everything else is like that ship super It's tough.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
At home, it's good, you know what I'm saying. I
got my wife, she do the cook she do everything.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
You do it.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
But out of town it's over. It's a done deal.
Cakes all kind of ship.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
I'm not gonna lie between the food ship politics, the
food and politics.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
I'm ready to leave this country.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
No, I feel you this ship, this ship horror right now,
everything just kind of I don't know, I feel like
the energy is just terrible. Don't nobody want to communicate
with each other? Nobody want to listen to each other?
You know, everybody feel like they got the answers, and
you know, no matter whatever side you on, it's like
it's just a bunch of combativeness versus like, all right, listen,
(06:54):
why is it that you think this is true? And
I tell you why I think this is true, and
will both outsource the actual facts about this. Let's see
who's right. We get this understanding, we can move on
to the next conversation. I know family that stopped dealing
with each other thirty forty year relationships. This is family,
you know, family over politics because they voted for two
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different people.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
And I don't think that makes any sense. I don't
understand that.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
I do understand people having their own ideologies and having
their own beliefs, But for me, I feel like politics
is pretty much a personal a personal decision, you know,
that's what that's something you do on your personal time.
I think politics is almost like religion, Like it doesn't
it don't have to be shared with the person to
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the left, for the person to the right, or in
front of or Becky or It's like, it don't have
to be shared. You know, that's something personal. That's like
speaking on what you're doing in a badroom. You don't
have to do.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
It rather you're not.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Yeah, you know, yeah exactly, but we do it, you know.
And the crazy thing is you can viobe with a person.
Y'all can have a lot of ship in common, you know,
the conversation can be doing great, y'all agree on a
lot of things and everything love, and then a moment
politics come and play, and then you see you got
two different opinions. Now you hate this person, you know,
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you hate the person that you was just vibing with. You,
you get what I'm saying. So it's like, I think
we need to and and and it's hard to get
people to do that. But I think, like, you know,
taking the personal feelings out of just out of ship period.
You know, I think the only the only thing that
what personal feelings make a lot of sense is is religion,
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you know, because that's that's religion, is your salvation, that's
what you're based on your salvation on. So I feel
like it's okay to be a little bit and it does,
it does. I don't think either one is worth disrespecting
each other or you know, slamming the dough on each other.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
And she I don't.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
I don't think either one is. I'm saying as far
as the passion go religion, that makes sense, you know,
to be passionate about that.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
You know, I agree for sure, passion to your commitment
for the for.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Your faith and for your belief.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
But the passion that we got for for politics and politicians,
I don't think it makes it just don't make sense.
And at the end of the day, you know, them
folks on the same team. They literally colleagues. Literally, they
literally are colleagues. They hang together, they go to the
same dinners and Christmas parties, they go to each other's
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kids graduation. They know how to cut that ship on
and they know how to cut that ship off. It
shit like w w E. It's a it's a great
storyline in front of the camera for us. But when
they get behind the scenes, they in the gym together,
they working out, you know, but we ready to tell
each other head off.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
So I'm with you on that.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Like the food, politics, just a lot of shit, streets,
ship everything, It's just it's just terrible cloud Cloud.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
That's a bad motherfucker right there.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Yeah, honestly, I don't even pay that, you know mine
no more.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
I feel like I feel like I have gotten to
a place where It's just like if that shit don't
got nothing to do with me. Yeah, that shit don't
got nothing to do. I don't even want to know.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
I don't want to fuck it.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Like, you know, how am I benefiting off this show?
This shit? Yeah, so I'm cool, it don't even matter.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
How are you protecting your energy? You have like a
daily ritual? You I feel like you're the type of
person who has like a routine.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
I mean, I pray five times a day. You know.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
That helped me out, except for when I'm on the road.
You know, you're on the roads, make your prayers together,
shorten the prayers because you're traveling or whatever.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
But pretty much that, you know, I.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Try to go in when I'm in the when I'm
in the city, I go in the house at a
certain time.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
I go in the house every night, you know.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Before nine to ten, ship like that, just to try
to catch my kids before they go to bed.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
No, I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
I wouldn't say I got like a daily, daily ritual,
but I do got ways to just protect my mind,
I said, in protecting my energy, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
And I think what I do with that is just
not give a fuck. That's like, the.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Best shit you can do is not give a fuck.
When you don't give a fuck, nothing matters, you know.
It's the shit that's supposed to matter. Only thing that
matters the things that do give a fuck, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
So yeah, great piece of advice. So when I first
met you, I want to say that was like twenty ninth.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Eighteen, eighteen or nineteen.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Man, so much has changed in hip hop and then rap,
but especially for Detroit. How do you feel about Detroit's
influence and rap, because I feel like it's definitely there.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
I just don't know if it's really acknowledged.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
They ain't acknowledged at all.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
It's not even a really it's not acknowledged at all whatsoever,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
And even as far as Detroit go, like Detroit.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
We got our own sound, but even within Detroit, it's
still different sounds, you know what I mean. I think
like when I got out of jail, everybody was rapping
on a certain type of sound, you know what I mean.
And I tried it out for a minute and then
I said, fuck this shit, I'm gonna rap on the beasts.
That I rap on, which is a more slower, slower
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beat with a stronger, stronger base, real like real gritty,
like just raw shit, tough, super tough shit. Because what't
nobody rapping on the beats front Detroit? They fell back
and started rapping on other ship. So I attacked it,
you know what I mean kind of I brought that
part that sound of Detroit back and then see other
Detroit artists do it. They helped me turn the ship
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up even more, you know it compliment it, compliment each other.
When when two turn motherfuckers, you know, pushing one sound.
But then when the rest of the world did it,
you know what I mean, it's just like it's cool.
But the but the the lack of acknowledgement, I feel
like it's just bogus, you know, because when every any
any region or any city that kind of changed the
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sound up the rap game, know that, you know, we
we we we we appreciated them folks for doing that,
and we acknowledge them. It ain't like that with Detroit.
Fucking take a whole sound and just be like fuck them,
they don't even matter. Like Nigga Nigga act like they
never even heard of Detroit nigga rap like it's that ship.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
I don't know. I think that shit weak and weird.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
But what do you think it is? Why do you
think it is?
Speaker 2 (13:25):
I don't know. It can be ego. You know.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Everybody ain't used to getting money, you know what I'm saying, Like,
I'm a real get money nigga. I have money my
whole life since I've been adult. You heard like I
was a turn nigga in the city before I was
ice war vessel, Like I always been well known all
of that shit. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
And I met you. They was like, Yo, this is
the guy out there.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
I'm like, oh my god, you know what I'm saying,
And I think what it is a lot of dudes,
you know, they get the recognition and the money start
coming in, a little fame start coming so and it
be the ego like I acknowledge you. No niggas like
you know, niggas start looking at it like a business.
I guess I don't know. I ain't gonna do that
far I acknowledge them. It'll turn them niggas, don't.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
I don't know. I don't got the answers on why.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
It's just you know, I think that can be one
of the reasons, but it niggas don't do it at all, whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
But what made you want to like pivot production and
sound wise and take a different approach with your recording.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Because of those type of beast is what I always
felt comfortable on, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Naturally, it just was always my thing.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
But when I when I got out and I signed
the motime, I think I was I know, I was
intentionally trying to come with different shit, trying to be different,
trying to see if I can, if I can make
this shit work with I say, bigger and broader production
or whatever. I didn't feel comfortable doing that shit, so
I got back to wrapping on thirty dollars beats, you
know what I mean, shit.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
With up.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Beats.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Hey, gotta start somewhere. Talk to me about your situation
with QC.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Are you signed to QC?
Speaker 2 (15:06):
I'm independent, independent, being dependent for the last year and
a half.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Oh okay, yeah, were you signed to QC.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Yeah, we had a partnership fifty fifty going on.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Okay, but then once they went to the new people then.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Yeah, yeah, we kind of split up. Okay.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
I was confused about that, all right?
Speaker 3 (15:24):
And since we're on the topic of Detroit, are we
getting an ice per visit Babyface right tape?
Speaker 2 (15:31):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
I just feel like should know.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Everybody always asks me that, and I know they asked
him that.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
I don't know, possibly, Babe.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
I just don't understand what's the hold up?
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Because our chemistry on the music is just crazy, you
know what I'm saying. Like every time me and Face
do a something, the bitch go all the way up,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
I don't know, but I don't know. Maybe soon, maybe not.
Maybe so oh my god, I.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Just feel like it should be I'm just putting it
in the air for twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
That would be a great, great little gift to us.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
I'm just saying, figure that shit out, Okay. So what
else do we have going on for twenty twenty five?
Speaker 2 (16:11):
I'm releasing a movie called Rid Schaer.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
I executive produced it, I co wrote it, and I'm
acting in it. It's a it's it's like a I
ain't gonna call it. It's like a rhyme com but
I ain't gonna really put the comedy.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
All the way in there. I ain't. I ain't.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
I don't feel like I'm a funny nigga, you know
what I'm saying. So it's more so like a romantic joint.
But it's a lot of funny shit in there. Okay, Yeah,
I just got I just got the edit back this morning.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
It's crazy.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
Yeah, so after I gotta get it colored and we
got to send it to scoring. Finished it finished, the
eighty r work on it. Yeah, it's dropping.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
You heard.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
It's my third film that I produced, wrote and yeah,
acted in what Yeah, that's my third one. I got
a film production company. I stuff films.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
I love movies. I love it. I love this ship
like I got a real passion for that ship.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Oh no, I gotta go back and watch the first
are the first two wrong coms as well?
Speaker 2 (17:07):
No, the first two serious movies.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
The second, yeah, way more so than the third is
wrong com the third one.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Yeah, I think.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
I'm gonna be easy on it. I'm gonna be easy
on saying the calm comedy part. You heard, But it's romantic.
It's romantic.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
You know. It's hard to get black people to laugh
that ain't.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
No, it's not.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
These comedians don't be that funny to getting mad love online.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
I'm like, I don't get it.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Yeah, well yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Let me wait, But you co wrote it.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
So I created the entire movie, like I created the storyline.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
You bring no funny writers in to help you with
the jokes.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
I did. I did.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Come on, Smith, I brought him in, So that's what
will make me the co writer.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
I don't know how to like physically write a script.
I don't know how to do that yet. I don't
even got the type of time, you know. So I
brought in Kamara Smith. He a funny dude, you are?
Speaker 1 (18:05):
And yeah, so what is this rom com based off of?
Speaker 4 (18:08):
So it's called ride share, right, It's about a little dude,
him and his girl.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
She a singer.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
She want a record deal, She get pregnant, They engaged,
she can't work. He got a job, but it's not enough,
so they kind of panicking. They need more money. She
convinced no, actually its homie convinced him to be a
lyft driver, and he real reluctant against doing this shit,
but he think about his unborn child, so he don't
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do it. But then, like the front is a baby,
I'm about to say baby mama, his fiance's friend.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
She worked for a record label. Her boss.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
You know, he always take lifts from you know, when
it's late to his house. So he get this bright idea,
which is not bright at all. It don't even make sense.
And it's like, what's the odds of you actually picking
his picking his dude up? So then he like, you
know what, what I guess I would do the lyft driving.
He try to work hard to get the guy who
own the record label in the car. However, right but
(19:08):
when he would come of lyft driver, every ride he
go on, it's just some wild, fucked up shit. It's
just it's just crazy. Every single ride.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
I can see that's actually good.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Every single ride.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
I knows be hearing me say some wild ship.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
He go through a bunch of like wow ship like
one of the rides. Uh.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
He he dropped a take a girl somewhere.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
She real sweet, she being real nice.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
And you know, you've ever been in an uber or
a lyft You like, hey, can I pay you extra
to wait on me?
Speaker 3 (19:38):
You know?
Speaker 4 (19:39):
So she do she do that? She pay him extra.
She get out the car, she start banging on the door.
She catch her, She catch her dude cheating with another girl.
So the dude come out the house and he think
the lyft driver is a nigga that she brought over.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
So he like, you know, bit you tweaking on me?
You got a nigga a car? He pull a gun
out on who the driver got to pull off it?
Speaker 4 (20:01):
Ship like that. It's just a rodeo every every ride.
It's just crazy. This is good, wow, Ship.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
I'm looking forward to that.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
What I want to drop it?
Speaker 4 (20:10):
I want to say June, but I think I'm gonna
save it to September. I don't really like during summer
movie releases. I think far usually a better vibe.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
That's fire.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Yeah, damn, I can't wait to watch it. Okay, So
movies on the way, Yeah, music on.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
The way, music, music always on the way.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
I know you just gave it a single. I'm over
here asking for more, but.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Yes, do you have a project in mind for.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
This year or as far as music right?
Speaker 4 (20:44):
Yeah, I'm gonna drop rich off planks for me and
my homeboy, June and the Jeans. We got a project
coming out. It's called a Purple Tape. Yeah, I'm dropping music. Yeah,
I might drop two. I might drop both of those
mixtapes in same month. Do some weird shit, I like,
do crazy shit. When I'm independent, you just do anything.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
You right, you know what I'm saying. I ain't mad
at that.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Just do anything.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
How long are these tapes?
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Though?
Speaker 3 (21:09):
It's given like Gucci back into two thousand and eight,
right exactly.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Yeah, that's how I'm playing it.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Oh my god, I'm actually here.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
For got eight songs on it though, eight go like
twelve on the bitch.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Oh that's good.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
When you independent, it makes sense to just flood do
whatever you want to do it and let go of
the professionalism and trying to be ways way too strategic
and overthink this shit. Fuck this shit, you know what
I mean. It don't cost me nothing to make music.
I genuinely love this shit. So it is what it is.
I get this ship out, they gonna fuck with it,
ain't gonna fuck with it. I don't care about nothing.
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I don't care about numbers, I don't care about views, likes,
I don't give a fuck about none of that.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Already made some money. I'm cool and my family good.
It is what it is. I'm having fun with this shit.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
You all know, what's so funny about this is that
you are literally the same from what I mentioned.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Six years ago.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Like, same attitude, same energy, same aura, even though you've
accomplished so much doubt since the last time I seen you.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
That's a good as a compliment, compliment, thank you?
Speaker 1 (22:16):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
All right, So let's get into this game. We play
call questions that need answers. All you have to do
is fill in the blank.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Okay, all right.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
The older I get, the less.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
I like people.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Damn you said that fast understood. Okay, I think I
can understand that. Yeah, like people.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
I'm mixed emotions about it. It's like I love people,
I just don't want to deal with you all the.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Time all the time. It's a good way to go
about that.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Sometimes I look back at my life, and.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
Sometimes I look back in my life and reflect and
reflect the lot.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
I do you feel good? You feel bad?
Speaker 2 (23:05):
You know?
Speaker 4 (23:05):
I think about a lot of people. Okay, it's not
here with me that I lost. No, I do feel good.
And I like to reflect because sometimes I get unmotivated,
you know, so I got to look back to get
remotivated thinking about the ship that I've been through.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
What I came from.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Have you ever reflected on shrooms?
Speaker 2 (23:26):
No? I haven't.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
No, how is it? It's great?
Speaker 2 (23:30):
It is?
Speaker 1 (23:31):
It's great. You might but what do people be.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Talking about when they say, like trip.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
They taking too much everything and everything? And what is it? Dosage?
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Yeah, like if you take the right amount microdose essentially, Yeah,
microdose is good.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
I do shrooms. Like how is it though?
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Like it's like it's like wearing glasses, Like if you
got bad vision and you put your glasses on and
then you can see clearly.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
That's what. But for your thought, you got a lot
going on, and you're.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Like, man, I don't know, or like should I do
at least for me personally, I'll do shrooms and I
know exactly what I need to.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Be out when you do this? Ship or is it
best to be at home?
Speaker 1 (24:12):
No? No, you function normal. You could well sorry but
you could drive, you could work, you can.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
You'll probably just be nice as fuck, like and everybody's
like that why they's so happy?
Speaker 1 (24:23):
But yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
I gotta try to ship.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
I recommend ten out of ten.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
But yeah, but I will say my first like three
times doing it, I cried a lot, but it wasn't
like I was sad crying. It was like I was
crying because I was so happy to be.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Understanding, right to just under Yeah, it's like, wow, that
is why, and this is why.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
Oh, I gotta try.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
I gotta try to. I gotta try.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
I think you should.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
I want too. Seriously, Okay, I think I need to. Yeah,
I think I need to.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Yes, if you okay, if you do, and when you
do write a song about the clarity, yeah, it's gonna.
I'm just I want to know. Next time I see you,
I'm gonna inquire.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Leta try tonight at the studio?
Speaker 3 (25:22):
No, no, at the studio. Studio How we feel about studio?
I don't know if studio is good?
Speaker 1 (25:28):
You think so? Studio is your happy place?
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Yeah? Because I like recording.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Okay, okay, all right. Nature is my happy place. So
that's why I do it. Four walls is given to me. Like,
but okay, you would never believe me if I told you.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Oh, I got some stories for that line, some crazy.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Ship, give me one.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Oh man, you would never believe me.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
I don't think anybody would believe me unless they was there.
It's a lot of people that do believe because they've
seen it.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
They was there.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
Okay, this shit, this shit so unbelievable, almost feeling beards
to say.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Now, I feel like I just don't believe you, just
because you gave me so much. Like I was twelve.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Years old when I bought my first car.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
I was twelve years old and I had a weed
house and selling close to a pound a day in
nickel bags. I was twelve years old when I bought
my first ten pounds a week to sell.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Are you allowed to buy a car twelve?
Speaker 2 (26:32):
No.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
I had to hide it from my mom, but my
mother in law knew I had a car.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
She knew at twelve.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Yeah, it was why did you want how to drive?
Speaker 4 (26:44):
We're fun of trenks. We been new how to drive.
I was stealing cars, We've been new how to drive.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Yo, Detroit is not a real place.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
Yeah, But like, this shit sound unbelievable, Like I don't
even like talking about it. I had a conversation about
the shit a couple of weeks ago, and somebody posted,
They're like, bro, why would this nigga lie like that?
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Like? Who the why is you lying like that? Brother?
Like why would you say that? Nigga?
Speaker 4 (27:05):
Ain't no nigga sold pounds of weed at twelve years
They said, well, light on the life of my children.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
That happened.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
I had pounds of weed when I was twelve years old,
on my kids life, on my life, I did.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
So, Wait, what age did you learn how to drive?
Speaker 4 (27:21):
I'll say, like Leavin, my homeboy Kyle taught me in
a stolen car. I paid them ten dollars.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Yeah, no, you got scripts for days.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Okay, your real life? Is this good content? Like what?
Speaker 4 (27:37):
I don't never talk about this type of shit. It's
just so unbelievable. At the time, I thought it was normal.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
I thought this shit was regular. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
No, that's crazy. Did you all right? So when did
you actually go get your out.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Saying a nigga from nigga?
Speaker 4 (27:48):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (27:49):
That was in my high school. I had.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
I stopped going to high school in the ninth grade,
so uh no, like the first the first few weeks
of the tenth grade. A dude that that went to
my high school. I probably spoke to this dude one
time ever in my life. I know he is, he's
from my hud, but he a rat, he told them somebody,
so I respect him. His niggas. When somebody posted that video,
he said, domn So at what part did I know you?
(28:14):
It's just like, bro, it's fine, Yeah, it's crazy. You
think you understand what I'm saying. I think he was
saying like this, it didn't happen it.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Like you know me? Yeah, pack it up. Jay Z is.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Called to do it.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
The craziest thing that has happened to me on tour
had to be the time when.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
The craziest thing that happened to me on tour had
to be the time when.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
I don't know, I don't think they're really crazy.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
I don't believe it.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
But you were married, man, So I'm gonna let you be.
Ten years from now. I want my legacy to be.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Put everybody on that deserved it.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
That's tough. I love that. Blank is one movie I
can watch with the sound off.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Man, It's a Society.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
That's a good one.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Yeah, it's a good one.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Have you seen I'm curious now that I know you're
a movie buff. I'm not a movie buff, but I've
been getting recommendations and people are telling me like old
movies that are like must watch, And one of them
that they told me to watch was Pope Fiction.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
I haven't watched Pope fiction. They said that's a real class.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
They said that I hated it.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
I was just My favorite director is Martin Scorsese. Yeah yeah, dog.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
But why what is it about him?
Speaker 2 (29:46):
It's his writing, the writing.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
So he did a Good Fellas Casino, Yeah, he got
some ship.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Good Fellas is Fire.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
He also co uh co directed Boardwalk Empire. I don't know,
it's more so how in depth he go, whether the
stories be true or not. You know, most of the
films he do be based on a true story, But
I think the way he tell the stories, he was
he was the first to be able to put some
comedy and some tough, fucked up ship and the worst situations.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
You know, but was able to get you to laugh
about it.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
And I think on the back end of that as
a as a person watching that, you know, it's when
you're going through certain times and you feel like it
ain't no way out, ain't no, it ain't no other
way to go about the ship. I think, you know,
watching shit like that make it easier for you to
kind of sit back and laugh at the ship and
go about it different, like, you know what, maybe this
(30:42):
ship ain't that big of a deal, you know what
I'm saying. So yeah, but I think the storytelling everything.
I just the dude just like that with that ship.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Everything that's real.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
I like your point about the comedic.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Humor in a tough situation.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
When you digest.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Yeah, it makes a lot of sense. Okay, outside of rapping.
Blank is my favorite hobby.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
Outside of rapping, I got a lot of film acting, directing.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
By the end of twenty five, I hope to.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Make another ten.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Heard my favorite album of all time.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Is Juvenile four hundred degrees.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
M I'm so surprised to hear you say that, only
because you're from Detroit.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Actually, that's the only reason why I'm shocked.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Listen to them beasts.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
It's like that shit sounded like Detroit shit that we
kind of think about it, Juvenile four hundred degrees, all
them songs, that shit sounded like Detroit beats.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
I love that good Taste, Good Taste. That tiny Desk
is on repeat for me when I'm cleaning my house,
just like it's such as I love when ratchet things
things are turned classy, like you got white people with
the violin performing back that ass up like this is
this is art.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Okay. Last one is after my first rap check.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
I gave my family some money.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
I feel like you was already doing that. What's something
you wasn't doing?
Speaker 4 (32:30):
Yeah, but I gave them some real money, like you
know up by my Mama House Fire.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Yeah, buy my Mama House.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
I love that. But thank you for coming on the podcast.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
I appreciate your time. Shout out your grandma. Let everybody
know where they can follow you if they're doing already.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
I swear underscore vessel on all my social platforms.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Follow me. Let's get it.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
Go check my movie out Ride, Share coming soon, price
love out right now, tagged out right now.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
You know what I'm man, Let's get it. Oh yeah,
I got. I got me at a little.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
Eighty second roll in dr fromt Detroit on BT Plus.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Yeah, so I'm flexing that. You know what I mean?
I got. I'm flexing them.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Eighty second at least was in it. I'm flexing them.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
You know what I'm saying. No, but y'all go check
Dr from Detroit out right now. It's dope.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
She amazing person, hurt, she's just fired, amazing actor, amazing,
Everything is a legend. Like, yeah, she a real woman.
Stand up. You know what I'm saying. I just let
the way she carry herself, carry herself, her husband is amazing.
She just an amazing person, you know. And she inspired me.
She inspired me a lot, she genuinely do. And I
(33:45):
have no no, Senate, there's no reason to you know.
She literally inspired me, like in real life, you know,
so God bless her.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
She inspired all of us. Man. Yeah, I would flex
at eighty seconds.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
To nick If and I if I am mistaken, dr
wrote them eighty seconds.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Listen it. That's so kiddy.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Until next time, guys,
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