April 7, 2025 • 27 mins
In this heartfelt conversation on We Need To Talk with Nyla Symone, special guest Alex Isley opens up about her new single “Hands” and how embracing the present moment has shaped her artistry. She reflects on the deep influence of motherhood, her musical upbringing, and the personal growth woven into her songwriting. Alex shares how themes of love, healing, and self-awareness guide her creative process, and what it means to collaborate authentically in today’s industry. With honesty and grace, she speaks on navigating visibility, staying grounded, and finding peace through two of her favorite forms of therapy: music and cooking. Tune in and comment in the socials below.
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Speaker 2 (01:01):
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Speaker 4 (01:11):
We need a time. Hey is Alex Eisley and my
new single hands is our nyla. We need to talk girl.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
What's going on? Guys? Now?
Speaker 3 (01:20):
It's alone here with another episode that we need to talk.
And today I have a very special guest in the building.
We've got alex Issley here.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
How are you? I'm great? How are you?
Speaker 1 (01:30):
I'm so excited that you are here.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Thank you for having me, greating.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
This legacy, R and B all of my favorite things.
How are you feeling? Like, just in general about life
right now?
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Feeling good? Grateful, still my best to be as present
as I can every moment.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
That's important. What's pushing you to be more present?
Speaker 4 (01:52):
I think first and foremost my daughter especially, you know,
motherhood has taught me to just really take in everything
because it goes by fast, so.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
You don't wanted to go by that like yes, like
I need you to feed yourself, dress yourself, and do
the things by yourself.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Yeah. Yeah, we're conquering new things. You know, she's eight now,
so learning new things every day for sure.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
One day at a time. Yeah, Okay, well, I love that.
I love it being present. What brings you into town?
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Just press and performance things and that I can't yet share.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
I'm gonna ask what will be seeing you at Blue Note?
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Hopefully soon? Okay, hopefully soon?
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Yeah? All right, maybe that was a wishless request for
that's like, wait, is she gonna.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Do a surprise on us? Yah?
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Know? I always love coming to Blue Note? So hopefully
hopefully next trip?
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Okay, yeah, okay, Well, I know you just dropped a
new single, hands very sexy, sultry. What inspired the record?
Speaker 4 (02:57):
The music? Rob the bass player was just on his
bass and he was playing something and it sparked an idea.
It sparked a certain mood for me, and I was like,
I like this and I just let the music speak
to me. I feel like that's a cliche, but but
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that's really what it was.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
My favorite line is out of reach, but you close enough.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
I'm like, oh, Alex to talk to me.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
How are you?
Speaker 3 (03:28):
How are you juggling love? Because it sounds like in
the song it's like I'm so busy. I'm too busy
to just be cuddled and get my button. I'm like,
I want to That's what I took.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Away from it. I think, you know, I feel like
all of us can relate to it at some point,
and I think for that particular song, I think I'm
away from my person and just wanting to be near them,
and the memory and the thought of them, I think
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is all I all I needed in that moment. So, yeah,
that's that's the picture I wanted to paint.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
So beautiful.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
I really love how you're able to paint that picture
for us because that's totally relatable. Yeah, for me as
well and for many women. But coming like out the
gate with that type of record.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
What are we getting?
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Are we getting an album? An EP?
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Like?
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Are we in love? Is this whole project love? What's happening?
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Getting more? For sure? Okay? I would like to think
that everything that I do musically is rooted in love. Now,
it might be the loss of love and heartbreak, or
it might be longing for a certain love or being
in the moment with it. But so I think there
is love kind of interweaved into everything. There's more on
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the way, but I don't want to give too much away,
but there is more on the way.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
I like how you wear that there's love rooted in everything,
in the even in the pain.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Yeah that's bruve.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Yeah, yeah it is, Yeah it is. But I feel
like that's you know, it's life, and I think there's
so much art music to reflect that and this is
it's hard, but I think it's all beautiful.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
What allows you to be so comfortable and like free
flowing with your emotions and your music.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
I think the fact that you don't have to necessarily
give away that you're talking about yourself. I think that's
the beauty songwriting, is that you can pull it from anywhere.
It can be your own story, but you don't have to.
You can still be vulnerable without spelling it out, like hey,
this is where I am right now. True? So yeah,
have you ever.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Gotten any phone calls like this? This is about me?
Speaker 2 (05:48):
You know what?
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (05:50):
I think there might have been one or two people
that were like, was it and I was like, not
a promise? Yeah? Were you lying? I was not serious?
Oh okay, I was really yeah, yeah, I'm like not
you not.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Do you feel like there's like any pressure at all
and being a legacy act or like yeah, family of
a legacy act.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
I don't think so. I think I've had my moments
where like internally there's pressure, but I think overall I
have their support and just knowing that that's everything I've
learned from them indirectly is embedded in me. Yeah, I
carry that with me, whether I realize that or not.
So I just I think the biggest thing for me
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is just being as intentional as possible with you know,
whatever it is I do. But I don't, at least
not right now. I don't. I don't feel the pressure
so much. I think just regardless, I'm always proud, proud
of that lineage and to be a part of it.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Yeah, it's super dope.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
I I love how you use the word intention behing
your art, and I think that shows honestly since you
came out the gate. But speaking of intention, what is
the intention that you're going for with you know, this
next round of music.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
M I think the intention behind this new music is
just being more unapologetic and unafraid to express who I
am and just leaning more into my womanhood, my sensuality
and all the things and feelings and that I've been
(07:34):
dealing with, you know, the past few years, and as
I just continue to grow as a woman, just embracing
that and sharing that so.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Man, women is such an interesting experience. The older I get,
the more I'm starting to realize like things about myself
and others and that I have to say, like, I
really admire womenhead on a deeper level now because it
is so hard.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Yo, it's so hard. Even you walking in.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Being on the phone with your daughter. I'm like, Wow,
this is so beautiful. But talk to me when you
say you're leaning into your womanhood or like exploring it more.
What are some things that you would say is different
from before.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
I feel like just realizing certain things now about myself,
that I've learned things that I want and don't want
from a relationship or a situation.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Talk about it.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
And I think I'm very nice by nature. I don't
like confrontation, and I think this music is a little
bit more like I'm okay to confront and I'm okay
to like be not as nice and I'm okay to
be a little more direct and not as not as
not as subtle. I'm, you know, so just stepping out
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of my comfort zone in a lot of ways.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Oh, this is fun. Are we calling this villain era?
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Is Is it giving?
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Alex and her Villa e Noya Okay, not villain necessarily,
but not villain.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
I think, just just more unafraid and just dipping my
feet so to speak into into that territory and like
what it's like to not be as held back or
graceful or.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
You know, hey, I love that for you. I'm so
happy that you arrived. Don't dip your toad, just cannon
ball that joint. Man, I'm excited to hear that. What
do you think is like or why do you think
you weren't necessarily as comfortable in that realm? It is
it just like because you think you're not confrontational or
(09:42):
do you feel like it just has to do with
social dynamics of women within music?
Speaker 4 (09:50):
I just you know, I can only speak for me.
I think just where I am in my just where
I am in life. I just want to be in
the moment with my feelings and my thoughts. And so
that's how that's how I channeled the music, That's how
I wrote it, and just just keeping it honest for
myself and where I am now. I feel like there's
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always more room to grow and expand on those things,
and so I would think I would, you know, as
time goes on, But I think it's it's all a
matter of time for me, and I think just in.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
General, definitely.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Yeah, it's so funny because I can relate in like
slowly leaning more and more into womanhood and just reactions,
like people's reaction to it. They're always caught off guard,
like oh, it's like, oh, it's like another layer there,
like yeah, you know, we're not in a box.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
So I commend you for this, and I'm excited to
see this journey, But I am curious, like how did
you grow up? Like how did you gain your love
for music? Was it like Saturday mornings cleaning the house
y'all arevers singing or like, like what was that experience?
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Like I had music? Just music was present everywhere. It's
such a huge part of my life and how I
see the world. Quite honestly, it's how I live my life,
and it's it's a love language of mine. I feel
like music. Music is absolutely a love language. You can
send a song that makes you think of somebody curating
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a playlist, because that takes time and energy and thought
behind it a good one.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
So I think music is just embedded in everything that
I do, and and I feel like everything that I
am quite honestly, I think R and B is absolutely
my foundation, but I have different genres. It just incorporated
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into my life as well. Like my mom, my maternal grandmother,
she's sang classical for years and then she became my
vocal teacher, and so I learned a lot of classical.
And then my maternal grandfather loved jazz, and so that
was like my first kind of exposure to jazz. And
then I studied in the high school and college, and
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so there's a little bit of everything. And then of course,
you know, growing up in the nineties and being influenced
by West Coast hip hop, you know, growing up in.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
La not NWA, not through FuG Oh yeah, it's a
little bit of everything.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Nate Dog, Jazz, corrupt like all of that. So it's
a little bit of everything. But my foundation for sure
is R and B.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
I get it, we hear it, we hear it in
the music.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Talk to me about your experience working with Arras Martin
on your last project, like how did that collaboration come
about and what's the dynamic in the studio. I would
love to see like a session live with you too,
terras Is.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
I mean, what you see is what you get. He's
one of the most authentic, just human beings that you'll
ever meet. We met years ago, but we were talking about,
like we gotta do something, we gotta get something on
on Wax, some kind of projects, and then we started
putting together music right before the pandemic and then everything
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shut down and we kind of to step away from it.
But then we came back to it, and before we
knew we had a whole collective and album. And you know,
we're both from la and we wanted to pay tribute.
We wanted to express our love for the city. And
so that's how I left my heart and Ladari it's
a play on the jazz standard. I left my heart
(13:33):
in San Francisco, and so because there's a little bit
of jazz, there's hip hop, there's R and B. So yeah,
I'm really proud of that project. And working with him
is I mean, working with him is amazing. He's such
a legend and just so so knowledgeable when it comes
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to jazz but just music in general.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
So yeah, yeah, no YouTube together it's like butter sounds
like I wonder what it's like live for you guys,
It's like Metro Future, like when you get together, you
know it's gonna be that project is damn They're perfect
to me. You Who are you working with producer wise
for the new tape?
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Uh, there's a little bit of everything. Let's see there's
uh I did. I did do some work with Jack Dan.
I did do some a couple of things with It's
a guy based out in La He's amazing. He's worked
with Doughchi and Blast. He goes by, Oh gosh, li
(14:36):
Otis So I've done some stuff with him. I have
a k Tranada joint, which I'm really excited about. What's
a little bit of everything? What I need this today?
Speaker 3 (14:47):
What is it dropping? You coming in here playing? When
are we getting a summertime project?
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Oh? She's like, I'm not getting if it's spring now,
you know between spring and summer.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Okay, okay, I take that. Yeah, I take that. And
I also saw you are now with Warner Yes, a
Free Lunch agency. Yes, shout out to Tim. I really
really loved Tim.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Shout out to Free Lunch.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
How's it going over there?
Speaker 4 (15:19):
It's great, it's great. You know, I've been independent for
so long and I think this was the perfect time
to be a part of a family that they prioritize
the art and then the music first, and that's really
important to me. So it's a great team at Warner
and Free Lunch. So I'm just I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
And y'all are so la.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
I was like, this is this is just not fair. Actually,
you got Tim was a great exec. And I feel
like great execs don't really exist anymore. So I'm happy
to see good talent, good execs come together. I really
think you guys have the potential to be a powerhouse.
So I'm excited to see what you guys roll out.
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But okay, so on the show, we play a game
clop questions that need answers. All you have to do
is fill in the blank. Okay, the older I get,
the less I who.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
The less I have time for bs.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Per Okay, wait till this new project job.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
I can already tell it, Spacey.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Sometimes I look back at my life and.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
I sometimes I look back at my life and I marvel.
I marvel at how fast time is going.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Yeah, no, me too, I feel that one. Yeah, from
time to time, it's good to do.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Nothing. It's good to do nothing. But so I mean,
I mean more so like it's good to rest and
to reset and to check out and just do something
that's solely for you. I feel like, ideally every day
it's good to do nothing. Sometimes do you have like
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a thing that's for you that you do? Like are
you a beach girly?
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Do you run a target? You know?
Speaker 4 (17:11):
Like I stay out of target.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Especially I can not only I was just joking.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
Not this month. No, I mean the beach. Yeah, I mean,
of course, if it's ideal weather, Yeah, for sure, I
take advantage of that as much as I can. I
love to cook. Cook. Cooking is very therapeutic for me,
creative or like full full full of mules. I like
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to cook enough to have leftovers for sure.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Yes, So yeah, let you know next time I'm in
la Okay, Like what I got you?
Speaker 4 (17:50):
I got you?
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Last one was from time. Sometimes I look back at
my life.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
And so we did that sometimes, like back in my
life and marvel at how fast the time is going.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Oh, you would never believe me if I told.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
You I am ninety nine percent. I'm serious really like
I'm very very goofy Oh my.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
God, I love that.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
I feel like you need to you need to be
absolutely ship that or cry cry yesterday.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
I don't know. I've done enough for that. No more
of that, thank you?
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Okay, I love that. What's your sign?
Speaker 4 (18:34):
I'm an aries? Oh my god, I'm a lead are season? Okay?
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Wait?
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Yeah yesterday it started airy season. When's your birthday?
Speaker 4 (18:42):
April sixteenth?
Speaker 1 (18:43):
It's really coming up. Happy early birthday.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Thank you. Damn.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
I knew there was something there. I love me on
fire sign. Jay Z is the go por por That
was a good one.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
People.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
We gotta do a highlight of this people say about
jay Z. It's hilarious.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Ten years from now. I want my legacy to be.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
That I that I loved, that I loved I don't know,
but as simple as that.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
For me, I love how pure you are with your artistry,
but also in person, like.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
You really mean this I do? I do, and this
is I mean, this is I would rather. I mean,
there's nothing else I would rather do. And so I
think you got to put your whole heart into whatever
that is, and for me, that's that's music. So I
want to be as genuine and as real about it
as I can.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
You've been dropping music since two thousand and like twelve.
How do you maintain having such a pure spirit in
this space.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
Ooh, prayer. Yeah, keeping myself surrounded by people that I
trust and that I have my best interest at heart.
Shout out to my mom first and foremost. She's always
had my back. She's always been my support system. So
that's important. Keeping that person or team, whatever that looks
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like for you, keeping that around you. Yeah, you know,
because there's moments where it can get it can get tough,
and you get you know, it might be discouraged along
the way. But I think between that and just prayer
and just being as just comes back to intention and
being as intentional as possible and whatever it is you're doing,
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I think that's that's the most you can do.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Yeah, it's undeniable when the intention is clear and like good.
The hardest lesson I learned about fame is.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
I don't know if I've learned the hardest lesson yet.
I'm still learning because I don't consider myself famous or
like fame in me. I don't consider that. I don't know.
I don't consider that.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
You really don't.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
I don't because you just you grew up in it,
so you're it's normal to you.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Maybe I don't know if it's that I think just
because of where I'm present the most. Like in my
day to day space is mostly like normalmhood okay, okay,
and like making sure I get my daughter to school
on time, and like are my grocery spoiled yet? Like
so I don't. I haven't really thought about that yet, okay.
(21:43):
But I also feel like, to me, my definition of
celebrity or fame is like you can't go into a
grocery store without being recognized or something. I can go
to Whole Foods or whatever and just be just do
my thing and just you know, so I don't think
about I haven't really thought about fame yet.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Okay. This is crazy. Famous people don't think they famous
these days. What is going on outside of singing?
Speaker 1 (22:12):
My favorite hobby is cooking, cooking food, eating.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
All of it.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
By the end of twenty twenty five, I hope too.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
By the end of twenty twenty five, I hope to
h I hope to have really learned what God is
showing me right now. I hope to like really get it,
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get it in my head and move on.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
No, wait, what is God showing you? She's like, nod,
I hear you, but I'm not trying to I hear.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
You, but I don't want to hear you. Yeah, you're
going through that right now.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
I have been, Yeah, just just life and and experiences
and you know, I've taken those things and written about
them and that's you know, it's therapy and journaling for
me is that's what songwriting is. So I hope to
really get it in my head and by the end of.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
This year, you know, I need to hear this news.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
I need the link because with hands, I feel like
we're in such a good space.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Yeah, so how are we going from hands to.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
You know, I mean, it's not going from good to
you know, not good per se, but it's it's a
little bit of everything, Okay. So I think it's all
good because at the end of the day, you're I'm
I'm embracing, I'm acknowledging my feelings, I'm learning from my experiences.
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So I think there's, like you said, there's moments of pain,
but I think all of it is for my good
to become who I'm meant to be, so.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Well said, well said.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
My last one is Blank is a movie that I
can watch with the sound off.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
Minutes to Society, Yo.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Why are you so La, I know, I know, I know,
I like I know that that movie verbatim and it's
it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Now that's a little sick.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Yeah, yea, that is.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
But I'm into it.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
So hands is out now, we're getting some some collection
before the summer hits, and we can't wait.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Is there a name for yet?
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Yes, can we get the name.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
I'm trying to figure out a clever way of how
to how to share it. But I think it's just
a matter of of when it comes out.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Is it another body part? Is it a month?
Speaker 4 (24:58):
I actually just said the title, Wait, hongd On clever. No,
it's it's but I'll give you it's about timing. It's
about timing and figuring out, figuring out, figuring out, figuring
it out.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Okay, okay, And actually I have one more question.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Have you really not met Stevie Wonder yet?
Speaker 4 (25:22):
Are you telling us no? I haven't. That feels like
and I'm upset. Yeah, I'm upset. It's literally it's been
the past ten years. I'll leave somewhere and he shows up.
My mom saw him at an Apple store last year.
It was like, I guess who's I wasn't with her?
She's like, guess who's here at Apple And I'm like,
oh my gosh, I just you know, I'm trusting that's
(25:45):
the end of twenty twenty five. By the end of
twenty twenty five, I hope to meet I hope to
meet this many.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
That's a good one.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Yeah, yes, what's your what's your favorite Stevie record?
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Ooh, I would say Summer Soft or mm hmm Summer
Soft or something from Inner Visions.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
The whole the whole album. Yeah, mine is.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Somewhere Lovelight of Like, oh, I love the song when
I get married.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
This is the first song I want to dance too.
That's beautiful love love love Stevie.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
But when I saw I saw that in your bio,
I'm like, she has to be trolling us, Like no,
I felt like that was you your way of saying
like we're about to drop.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
A song together.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Yeah, no, I'm serious.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
I don't know if she's lying to me, but I'm
manifesting from my own personal budget.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
But Alex, thank you so much for coming.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
Thank you, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Of course, shout out to Grandma.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Let everybody know where they can follow you if they
don't already, cause you know you're famous.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
Yes, keep in touch with me, Follow me on ig, Facebook,
all the whole nine at Love alex.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Eisley, tune in, guys, hands out now, new project on
the way until next time.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Peace.
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Speaker 4 (01:11):
We need a time. Hey is Alex Eisley and my
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Speaker 1 (01:19):
What's going on? Guys? Now?
Speaker 3 (01:20):
It's alone here with another episode that we need to talk.
And today I have a very special guest in the building.
We've got alex Issley here.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
How are you? I'm great? How are you?
Speaker 1 (01:30):
I'm so excited that you are here.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Thank you for having me, greating.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
This legacy, R and B all of my favorite things.
How are you feeling? Like, just in general about life
right now?
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Feeling good? Grateful, still my best to be as present
as I can every moment.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
That's important. What's pushing you to be more present?
Speaker 4 (01:52):
I think first and foremost my daughter especially, you know,
motherhood has taught me to just really take in everything
because it goes by fast, so.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
You don't wanted to go by that like yes, like
I need you to feed yourself, dress yourself, and do
the things by yourself.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Yeah. Yeah, we're conquering new things. You know, she's eight now,
so learning new things every day for sure.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
One day at a time. Yeah, Okay, well, I love that.
I love it being present. What brings you into town?
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Just press and performance things and that I can't yet share.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
I'm gonna ask what will be seeing you at Blue Note?
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Hopefully soon? Okay, hopefully soon?
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Yeah? All right, maybe that was a wishless request for
that's like, wait, is she gonna.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Do a surprise on us? Yah?
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Know? I always love coming to Blue Note? So hopefully
hopefully next trip?
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Okay, yeah, okay, Well, I know you just dropped a
new single, hands very sexy, sultry. What inspired the record?
Speaker 4 (02:57):
The music? Rob the bass player was just on his
bass and he was playing something and it sparked an idea.
It sparked a certain mood for me, and I was like,
I like this and I just let the music speak
to me. I feel like that's a cliche, but but
(03:18):
that's really what it was.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
My favorite line is out of reach, but you close enough.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
I'm like, oh, Alex to talk to me.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
How are you?
Speaker 3 (03:28):
How are you juggling love? Because it sounds like in
the song it's like I'm so busy. I'm too busy
to just be cuddled and get my button. I'm like,
I want to That's what I took.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Away from it. I think, you know, I feel like
all of us can relate to it at some point,
and I think for that particular song, I think I'm
away from my person and just wanting to be near them,
and the memory and the thought of them, I think
(04:02):
is all I all I needed in that moment. So, yeah,
that's that's the picture I wanted to paint.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
So beautiful.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
I really love how you're able to paint that picture
for us because that's totally relatable. Yeah, for me as
well and for many women. But coming like out the
gate with that type of record.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
What are we getting?
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Are we getting an album? An EP?
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Like?
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Are we in love? Is this whole project love? What's happening?
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Getting more? For sure? Okay? I would like to think
that everything that I do musically is rooted in love. Now,
it might be the loss of love and heartbreak, or
it might be longing for a certain love or being
in the moment with it. But so I think there
is love kind of interweaved into everything. There's more on
(04:53):
the way, but I don't want to give too much away,
but there is more on the way.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
I like how you wear that there's love rooted in everything,
in the even in the pain.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Yeah that's bruve.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Yeah, yeah it is, Yeah it is. But I feel
like that's you know, it's life, and I think there's
so much art music to reflect that and this is
it's hard, but I think it's all beautiful.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
What allows you to be so comfortable and like free
flowing with your emotions and your music.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
I think the fact that you don't have to necessarily
give away that you're talking about yourself. I think that's
the beauty songwriting, is that you can pull it from anywhere.
It can be your own story, but you don't have to.
You can still be vulnerable without spelling it out, like hey,
this is where I am right now. True? So yeah,
have you ever.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Gotten any phone calls like this? This is about me?
Speaker 2 (05:48):
You know what?
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (05:50):
I think there might have been one or two people
that were like, was it and I was like, not
a promise? Yeah? Were you lying? I was not serious?
Oh okay, I was really yeah, yeah, I'm like not
you not.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Do you feel like there's like any pressure at all
and being a legacy act or like yeah, family of
a legacy act.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
I don't think so. I think I've had my moments
where like internally there's pressure, but I think overall I
have their support and just knowing that that's everything I've
learned from them indirectly is embedded in me. Yeah, I
carry that with me, whether I realize that or not.
So I just I think the biggest thing for me
(06:37):
is just being as intentional as possible with you know,
whatever it is I do. But I don't, at least
not right now. I don't. I don't feel the pressure
so much. I think just regardless, I'm always proud, proud
of that lineage and to be a part of it.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Yeah, it's super dope.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
I I love how you use the word intention behing
your art, and I think that shows honestly since you
came out the gate. But speaking of intention, what is
the intention that you're going for with you know, this
next round of music.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
M I think the intention behind this new music is
just being more unapologetic and unafraid to express who I
am and just leaning more into my womanhood, my sensuality
and all the things and feelings and that I've been
(07:34):
dealing with, you know, the past few years, and as
I just continue to grow as a woman, just embracing
that and sharing that so.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Man, women is such an interesting experience. The older I get,
the more I'm starting to realize like things about myself
and others and that I have to say, like, I
really admire womenhead on a deeper level now because it
is so hard.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Yo, it's so hard. Even you walking in.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Being on the phone with your daughter. I'm like, Wow,
this is so beautiful. But talk to me when you
say you're leaning into your womanhood or like exploring it more.
What are some things that you would say is different
from before.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
I feel like just realizing certain things now about myself,
that I've learned things that I want and don't want
from a relationship or a situation.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Talk about it.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
And I think I'm very nice by nature. I don't
like confrontation, and I think this music is a little
bit more like I'm okay to confront and I'm okay
to like be not as nice and I'm okay to
be a little more direct and not as not as
not as subtle. I'm, you know, so just stepping out
(08:50):
of my comfort zone in a lot of ways.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Oh, this is fun. Are we calling this villain era?
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Is Is it giving?
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Alex and her Villa e Noya Okay, not villain necessarily,
but not villain.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
I think, just just more unafraid and just dipping my
feet so to speak into into that territory and like
what it's like to not be as held back or
graceful or.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
You know, hey, I love that for you. I'm so
happy that you arrived. Don't dip your toad, just cannon
ball that joint. Man, I'm excited to hear that. What
do you think is like or why do you think
you weren't necessarily as comfortable in that realm? It is
it just like because you think you're not confrontational or
(09:42):
do you feel like it just has to do with
social dynamics of women within music?
Speaker 4 (09:50):
I just you know, I can only speak for me.
I think just where I am in my just where
I am in life. I just want to be in
the moment with my feelings and my thoughts. And so
that's how that's how I channeled the music, That's how
I wrote it, and just just keeping it honest for
myself and where I am now. I feel like there's
(10:12):
always more room to grow and expand on those things,
and so I would think I would, you know, as
time goes on, But I think it's it's all a
matter of time for me, and I think just in.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
General, definitely.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Yeah, it's so funny because I can relate in like
slowly leaning more and more into womanhood and just reactions,
like people's reaction to it. They're always caught off guard,
like oh, it's like, oh, it's like another layer there,
like yeah, you know, we're not in a box.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
So I commend you for this, and I'm excited to
see this journey, But I am curious, like how did
you grow up? Like how did you gain your love
for music? Was it like Saturday mornings cleaning the house
y'all arevers singing or like, like what was that experience?
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Like I had music? Just music was present everywhere. It's
such a huge part of my life and how I
see the world. Quite honestly, it's how I live my life,
and it's it's a love language of mine. I feel
like music. Music is absolutely a love language. You can
send a song that makes you think of somebody curating
(11:27):
a playlist, because that takes time and energy and thought
behind it a good one.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
So I think music is just embedded in everything that
I do, and and I feel like everything that I
am quite honestly, I think R and B is absolutely
my foundation, but I have different genres. It just incorporated
(11:52):
into my life as well. Like my mom, my maternal grandmother,
she's sang classical for years and then she became my
vocal teacher, and so I learned a lot of classical.
And then my maternal grandfather loved jazz, and so that
was like my first kind of exposure to jazz. And
then I studied in the high school and college, and
(12:13):
so there's a little bit of everything. And then of course,
you know, growing up in the nineties and being influenced
by West Coast hip hop, you know, growing up in.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
La not NWA, not through FuG Oh yeah, it's a
little bit of everything.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Nate Dog, Jazz, corrupt like all of that. So it's
a little bit of everything. But my foundation for sure
is R and B.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
I get it, we hear it, we hear it in
the music.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Talk to me about your experience working with Arras Martin
on your last project, like how did that collaboration come
about and what's the dynamic in the studio. I would
love to see like a session live with you too,
terras Is.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
I mean, what you see is what you get. He's
one of the most authentic, just human beings that you'll
ever meet. We met years ago, but we were talking about,
like we gotta do something, we gotta get something on
on Wax, some kind of projects, and then we started
putting together music right before the pandemic and then everything
(13:12):
shut down and we kind of to step away from it.
But then we came back to it, and before we
knew we had a whole collective and album. And you know,
we're both from la and we wanted to pay tribute.
We wanted to express our love for the city. And
so that's how I left my heart and Ladari it's
a play on the jazz standard. I left my heart
(13:33):
in San Francisco, and so because there's a little bit
of jazz, there's hip hop, there's R and B. So yeah,
I'm really proud of that project. And working with him
is I mean, working with him is amazing. He's such
a legend and just so so knowledgeable when it comes
(13:54):
to jazz but just music in general.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
So yeah, yeah, no YouTube together it's like butter sounds
like I wonder what it's like live for you guys,
It's like Metro Future, like when you get together, you
know it's gonna be that project is damn They're perfect
to me. You Who are you working with producer wise
for the new tape?
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Uh, there's a little bit of everything. Let's see there's
uh I did. I did do some work with Jack Dan.
I did do some a couple of things with It's
a guy based out in La He's amazing. He's worked
with Doughchi and Blast. He goes by, Oh gosh, li
(14:36):
Otis So I've done some stuff with him. I have
a k Tranada joint, which I'm really excited about. What's
a little bit of everything? What I need this today?
Speaker 3 (14:47):
What is it dropping? You coming in here playing? When
are we getting a summertime project?
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Oh? She's like, I'm not getting if it's spring now,
you know between spring and summer.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Okay, okay, I take that. Yeah, I take that. And
I also saw you are now with Warner Yes, a
Free Lunch agency. Yes, shout out to Tim. I really
really loved Tim.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Shout out to Free Lunch.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
How's it going over there?
Speaker 4 (15:19):
It's great, it's great. You know, I've been independent for
so long and I think this was the perfect time
to be a part of a family that they prioritize
the art and then the music first, and that's really
important to me. So it's a great team at Warner
and Free Lunch. So I'm just I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
And y'all are so la.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
I was like, this is this is just not fair. Actually,
you got Tim was a great exec. And I feel
like great execs don't really exist anymore. So I'm happy
to see good talent, good execs come together. I really
think you guys have the potential to be a powerhouse.
So I'm excited to see what you guys roll out.
(15:59):
But okay, so on the show, we play a game
clop questions that need answers. All you have to do
is fill in the blank. Okay, the older I get,
the less I who.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
The less I have time for bs.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Per Okay, wait till this new project job.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
I can already tell it, Spacey.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Sometimes I look back at my life and.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
I sometimes I look back at my life and I marvel.
I marvel at how fast time is going.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Yeah, no, me too, I feel that one. Yeah, from
time to time, it's good to do.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Nothing. It's good to do nothing. But so I mean,
I mean more so like it's good to rest and
to reset and to check out and just do something
that's solely for you. I feel like, ideally every day
it's good to do nothing. Sometimes do you have like
(17:06):
a thing that's for you that you do? Like are
you a beach girly?
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Do you run a target? You know?
Speaker 4 (17:11):
Like I stay out of target.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Especially I can not only I was just joking.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
Not this month. No, I mean the beach. Yeah, I mean,
of course, if it's ideal weather, Yeah, for sure, I
take advantage of that as much as I can. I
love to cook. Cook. Cooking is very therapeutic for me,
creative or like full full full of mules. I like
(17:41):
to cook enough to have leftovers for sure.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Yes, So yeah, let you know next time I'm in
la Okay, Like what I got you?
Speaker 4 (17:50):
I got you?
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Last one was from time. Sometimes I look back at
my life.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
And so we did that sometimes, like back in my
life and marvel at how fast the time is going.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Oh, you would never believe me if I told.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
You I am ninety nine percent. I'm serious really like
I'm very very goofy Oh my.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
God, I love that.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
I feel like you need to you need to be
absolutely ship that or cry cry yesterday.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
I don't know. I've done enough for that. No more
of that, thank you?
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Okay, I love that. What's your sign?
Speaker 4 (18:34):
I'm an aries? Oh my god, I'm a lead are season? Okay?
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Wait?
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Yeah yesterday it started airy season. When's your birthday?
Speaker 4 (18:42):
April sixteenth?
Speaker 1 (18:43):
It's really coming up. Happy early birthday.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Thank you. Damn.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
I knew there was something there. I love me on
fire sign. Jay Z is the go por por That
was a good one.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
People.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
We gotta do a highlight of this people say about
jay Z. It's hilarious.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Ten years from now. I want my legacy to be.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
That I that I loved, that I loved I don't know,
but as simple as that.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
For me, I love how pure you are with your artistry,
but also in person, like.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
You really mean this I do? I do, and this
is I mean, this is I would rather. I mean,
there's nothing else I would rather do. And so I
think you got to put your whole heart into whatever
that is, and for me, that's that's music. So I
want to be as genuine and as real about it
as I can.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
You've been dropping music since two thousand and like twelve.
How do you maintain having such a pure spirit in
this space.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
Ooh, prayer. Yeah, keeping myself surrounded by people that I
trust and that I have my best interest at heart.
Shout out to my mom first and foremost. She's always
had my back. She's always been my support system. So
that's important. Keeping that person or team, whatever that looks
(20:18):
like for you, keeping that around you. Yeah, you know,
because there's moments where it can get it can get tough,
and you get you know, it might be discouraged along
the way. But I think between that and just prayer
and just being as just comes back to intention and
being as intentional as possible and whatever it is you're doing,
(20:38):
I think that's that's the most you can do.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Yeah, it's undeniable when the intention is clear and like good.
The hardest lesson I learned about fame is.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
I don't know if I've learned the hardest lesson yet.
I'm still learning because I don't consider myself famous or
like fame in me. I don't consider that. I don't know.
I don't consider that.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
You really don't.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
I don't because you just you grew up in it,
so you're it's normal to you.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Maybe I don't know if it's that I think just
because of where I'm present the most. Like in my
day to day space is mostly like normalmhood okay, okay,
and like making sure I get my daughter to school
on time, and like are my grocery spoiled yet? Like
so I don't. I haven't really thought about that yet, okay.
(21:43):
But I also feel like, to me, my definition of
celebrity or fame is like you can't go into a
grocery store without being recognized or something. I can go
to Whole Foods or whatever and just be just do
my thing and just you know, so I don't think
about I haven't really thought about fame yet.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Okay. This is crazy. Famous people don't think they famous
these days. What is going on outside of singing?
Speaker 1 (22:12):
My favorite hobby is cooking, cooking food, eating.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
All of it.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
By the end of twenty twenty five, I hope too.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
By the end of twenty twenty five, I hope to
h I hope to have really learned what God is
showing me right now. I hope to like really get it,
(22:44):
get it in my head and move on.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
No, wait, what is God showing you? She's like, nod,
I hear you, but I'm not trying to I hear.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
You, but I don't want to hear you. Yeah, you're
going through that right now.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
I have been, Yeah, just just life and and experiences
and you know, I've taken those things and written about
them and that's you know, it's therapy and journaling for
me is that's what songwriting is. So I hope to
really get it in my head and by the end of.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
This year, you know, I need to hear this news.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
I need the link because with hands, I feel like
we're in such a good space.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Yeah, so how are we going from hands to.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
You know, I mean, it's not going from good to
you know, not good per se, but it's it's a
little bit of everything, Okay. So I think it's all
good because at the end of the day, you're I'm
I'm embracing, I'm acknowledging my feelings, I'm learning from my experiences.
(23:45):
So I think there's, like you said, there's moments of pain,
but I think all of it is for my good
to become who I'm meant to be, so.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Well said, well said.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
My last one is Blank is a movie that I
can watch with the sound off.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
Minutes to Society, Yo.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Why are you so La, I know, I know, I know,
I like I know that that movie verbatim and it's
it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Now that's a little sick.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Yeah, yea, that is.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
But I'm into it.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
So hands is out now, we're getting some some collection
before the summer hits, and we can't wait.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Is there a name for yet?
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Yes, can we get the name.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
I'm trying to figure out a clever way of how
to how to share it. But I think it's just
a matter of of when it comes out.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Is it another body part? Is it a month?
Speaker 4 (24:58):
I actually just said the title, Wait, hongd On clever. No,
it's it's but I'll give you it's about timing. It's
about timing and figuring out, figuring out, figuring out, figuring
it out.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Okay, okay, And actually I have one more question.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Have you really not met Stevie Wonder yet?
Speaker 4 (25:22):
Are you telling us no? I haven't. That feels like
and I'm upset. Yeah, I'm upset. It's literally it's been
the past ten years. I'll leave somewhere and he shows up.
My mom saw him at an Apple store last year.
It was like, I guess who's I wasn't with her?
She's like, guess who's here at Apple And I'm like,
oh my gosh, I just you know, I'm trusting that's
(25:45):
the end of twenty twenty five. By the end of
twenty twenty five, I hope to meet I hope to
meet this many.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
That's a good one.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Yeah, yes, what's your what's your favorite Stevie record?
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Ooh, I would say Summer Soft or mm hmm Summer
Soft or something from Inner Visions.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
The whole the whole album. Yeah, mine is.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Somewhere Lovelight of Like, oh, I love the song when
I get married.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
This is the first song I want to dance too.
That's beautiful love love love Stevie.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
But when I saw I saw that in your bio,
I'm like, she has to be trolling us, Like no,
I felt like that was you your way of saying
like we're about to drop.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
A song together.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Yeah, no, I'm serious.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
I don't know if she's lying to me, but I'm
manifesting from my own personal budget.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
But Alex, thank you so much for coming.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
Thank you, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Of course, shout out to Grandma.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Let everybody know where they can follow you if they
don't already, cause you know you're famous.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
Yes, keep in touch with me, Follow me on ig, Facebook,
all the whole nine at Love alex.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Eisley, tune in, guys, hands out now, new project on
the way until next time.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Peace.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
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Effect Podcast Network. For more podcasts from the Black Effect
Podcast Network, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
You listen to your favorite shows.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
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