What happens when an artist steps into her “villain era” not to spread chaos, but to reclaim her power and self-worth? Join us as we sit down with the talented Muni Long, who shares her journey of empowerment through her latest project, "Revenge." Muni opens up about the challenges she faces as a woman, especially a Black woman, in the music industry, and how she's learning to set boundaries and let others earn their place in her life. With candid reflections on self-care and authenticity, Muni offers a fresh perspective on navigating the pressures of success while staying true to oneself.<br><br>Motherhood often changes everything, and for Muni Long, it has reshaped her approach to personal boundaries and career choices. We delve into how parenting has sharpened her focus and assertiveness, redefining what truly matters in professional and personal spaces. Our discussion also takes a critical look at modern relationships for career-driven women, emphasizing the importance of balanced partnerships grounded in mutual respect and support. Muni shares her insights on the value of genuine connection and the shared growth that defy the unequal dynamics often faced by women in the pursuit of their dreams. And because life isn’t all about serious conversations, we wrap up with a fun segment of "Questions that Need Answers," where Muni offers humorous takes on personal growth, financial independence, and cultural heritage. From astrology and its influence on identity to her adventures in tracing ancestry, Muni's reflections mix laughter with thoughtful exploration. We round off the episode with exciting news about her upcoming projects, including Grammy nominations and new music, ensuring a captivating mix of empowerment, laughter, and cultural exploration.
00:41 Muni Long is in the building! - She talks about her revenge era her dreams, dealing with people doubting her, & fulfilling someone else's expectations.
07:41 Everybody always tells you you're on a clock but it's a fake clock.
10:23 Superpowers: Muni just wants to be held, even if it's at gunpoint 🤣
15:09 Muni Long & give their opinions on relationships, expectations of men and women, & how to connect with yourself.
21:55 Helping women find their voices when people try to project their ideas on them.
25:10 Questions That Need Answers: Muni Long Answers The Hard Questions!
27:32 Muni gives her 18 year old self some advice.
28:35 Finding out heritage and how difficult it is now knowing where you're from.
33:49 Embracing grammy season, singing at the White House, & another brand new album in the works.
35:17 Muni is okay with not having features but she DOES features. Hook-giving Muni is top teir.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yeah, so you gotta be careful. My mom needs to
be like, don't y'all here sneaking around with these boys
because they might be related. You need to let me
know who you're talking to.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Is it? That's fall of the town.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
We need the fellas to step it up, Like, come on,
it's not that we don't want to be in relationships.
We just are not trying to take care of a
grown up. But the bar is so low.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Not gonna lie like, the bar is really low. The
bar is so low.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
So the thing is, if I'm gonna take care of you,
then you gotta listen to me. And my parts really
do not think they don't. It's Malee Roses. What's up,
Y'all's your girl? Money Long and my new project, Revenge
is out right now at Yo, Nyla. We need to talk.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
What's going on, guys, and welcome to another episode that
we need to talk today. I have a very special
guest in the building. We have money Long here. Hey, y'all,
how are you.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
I'm well, how are you?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I'm good. I'm excited to have you.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
I'm excited to be here now.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
You just dropped the new album Revenge. Talk to me
about money in her revenge era.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
I'm definitely you know, if I was gonna be an
evil villain, this is definitely I always say the genesis
of that. I spent a lot of years like just
being nice and you know, there's nothing wrong with that,
but it gets you so far, right, it really gets
you stepped on. Yeah, And so for me, it's not
(01:23):
actually a villain era like that in the sense that
like I'm not the same person that people knew, but
like my villain era is just having boundaries, just stand
enough for myself, telling people know, but I don't feel
like doing something. I do not care what you got
going on. I said, no, you know, And it's so
crazy that that's considered a villain era, right, It is
(01:43):
just having standards. So yeah, like that's definitely where I'm at.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
That's so true. Especially as a woman, I feel like
you're almost like expected to always be there or to
say yes, or to to just deliver on task, even
outside of not wanting to. So I am inspired watching
you in this journey only because like as a woman
I can just relate, not just as a.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Woman, as a black woman. You're expected to just be
happy to be allowed, you know, like you should just
be happy we don't have you summer cleaning up. I'm
being so for real when I say that, Like it's
almost like there's no way you could be that smart,
that pretty, that talented, that resourceful, that valuable, and how
(02:26):
dare you know it? Oh my god, how dare you
ask for somebody to pay you what? You way? You
should just be happy that we even let you in.
So that's the whole struggle in itself.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
That is so, what would you say is like the
what was the moment of like the root of the
origin story, like where you were just like you know what, No,
I'm not having this. Would you say it actually started
with like releasing hours and hours?
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Nah, It's just like I literally have tried everything, try
every which way tried, you know, being kind, giving people
a chance, starting out, giving people a list treatment when
they are just starting out, like people will take advantage.
They will literally run you into the ground, and then
(03:16):
it becomes entitlement and it becomes you know, you have
to let people earn it. You have to let people
figure it out on their own, go through the journey
on their own, because if you don't, they won't appreciate it.
When you give it to them. And I also like
realized when I need people, they weren't there for me.
(03:36):
And so when I started the Money Long Journey, it
literally just me and a handful of people, like for people,
that's it. It was like I need y'all, like do
this with me. And even there was some difficulty there
because I have such deep, you know, vast dreams. A
(03:58):
lot of the things that I did over the last
year and a half, most of the people that I
started with did not believe that I could do it,
which is crazy, right, because if you didn't believe, why
would you be a part of this? Why would you
be a part? So they believed to a certain extent,
But even myself, like I out achieved myself in the
(04:20):
sense that like the stuff that I wrote down in
my vision board, my vision board and my manifestation journal,
like yeah, I wanted it, but I also didn't realize
like how it would come and what it would feel
like when it would come, and the impact of like
I think I have on my vision board five weeks
at number one on Billboard, and I Think Made for
(04:41):
Me did four. So it's like you don't actually understand
how impactful things might be. When you actually achieved them.
And so it's not just the having of the thing
or the getting the thing, it's the nurturing and the
(05:03):
responsibility of the thing, you know, and how it makes
other people react towards you dealing with all of that
weight and like me being who I am and people
expecting me to come in the room and be a
certain way, be rude, be demanding, and I'm just I'm
just a chill guy, you know.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
You know, literally, I'm just chilling.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
You know, I don't won't bother nobody, you know, Let
me get my little tea and my whatever. I'm cool,
And uh, I think it just becomes like this immense
uh responsibility to be somebody's projection of you, like to
fill that expectation, when really it's just like, nah, you know,
(05:48):
I actually no, I don't want to do that. I'm
gonna I'm gonna reserve the niceties for the people who
deserve it. But I'm here to do a job. Like
I just saw something on TikTok the other day where
the lady was saying that I don't have I no
longer have the privilege of using the time in the
space to express my gratitude I have to come here
(06:11):
ready to work. I'm here to do a job, and
so when you give I'm just happy to be here.
I can't believe i'm here. Thank you so much for
a seat at the table. It makes other people second guess, like,
wait a minute, should I be following this person because
they don't seem like they're too sure. So walking into
a room and understanding like, no, this is my position,
(06:33):
this is what I came here to do. Here's the
agenda for the day. Thank you so much for everybody
for their contributions. Here's what you go doom break like.
It's just a different mindset. And I think again, not
necessarily a villain era, but when everybody used to you
being so polite to you, knownky Dory, when you get serious,
(06:55):
they get offended.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Yeah, they're never like a certain woman, right, never like
the sort of women. But all you're saying really is
just being a leader and leading your own vision. And
you know, especially you know someone who has a resume
of writing for other people and helping other people's visions
come to life, Like it's so admirable to watch you
bring your vision to life, and especially like in music,
(07:18):
I feel like we're oftentimes, and by way, I just
mean really all women in music, I feel like we're
always the muse to somebody else, like you know, such
and such helped me create this project, or we're like
whatever the case may be. So yeah, I just think
the cool and unique thing about you is just really
being able to flex your voice because you can.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
You know.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
We need it. But you talked about a lot of
things on the project that for some of these songs.
I'm like, all right, I know she didn't really this
is when isn't personal, but it hit me, which is thirties.
I'm like, man, everybody always tells you you're on a clock,
like especially as a woman. And then I'm just like
I had this conversation with my into her, Angie Martinez,
(08:01):
and I'm like, man, you know, I'm getting up there
like I do want to have a family and I
do want to have a career and blah blah blah
blah blah. And then like I gave her like this
whole speech. I'm damn near about to cry having this meltdown,
and she's like, yo, it's a fake clock, Like you're fine.
And then I'm like, all right, all right, but talk
to me just about the record thirties? Did you pin it?
(08:22):
Was it like like through people, you know, like what's
the story?
Speaker 1 (08:25):
I know that that was the first song actually that
I had towards this project. I was like eight months
pregnant still and just thinking about like, man, I don't
want to be by myself. Not necessarily that there was
any clock, but just like trying to explain what that
(08:49):
I'm in this feeling of like am I ever gonna
find somebody? You know, especially as a hard working, you know,
young adult, it's like I don't have time really for
a relationship. I barely have time to like get a good,
nice sleep, you know. I think so many people relate
to that from early twenties to forties and fifties. They're
(09:13):
just like, yeah, no, definitely understand. I think also too,
it's like you just want somebody to share it with.
That's it. You have all these accomplishments, you want to
have somebody to be like good for you, good job babe,
like you know, or help take your mind off then
ease your mind, like if you had a rough week
and you know, let's go on vacation or let's have
(09:34):
a movie night, or let me cook for you. So
I think sometimes there's a void that is you can't
feel it with family or friends, Like there's an intimacy
that's had with a lover that you cannot get from
anything else. And I think sometimes people forget that and
(09:56):
it's like feelingless.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Cold numb.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Yeah, like you know, just situationships and just humping on
people like you know what I'm saying, sneaky Lincoln and
all that kind of stuff. You know that's not for me.
I can't do it.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
No, it's all distractions, all distractions that lead you nowhere.
I'm not a fan either, but okay, and then let's
talk about Actually let's start with Superpowers. The first record
on there. I thought it was really dope because it's, well,
it's just a good parallel to life, like, you know what,
my powers work here and here and here, But why
(10:34):
is it not working with you?
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Like?
Speaker 2 (10:36):
What is that? But do you think or I guess
when you're making the record, is it do you think
it's like dealing with somebody for so long that they're
just impressed with your superpowers? Or is it more so
just like it just doesn't work with you, Like it's
just God, it could.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Be a lot of things. I think it could be
you know, you guys are not in alignment. Yeah, it
could be that. You know, sometimes people are just magnetized
to you because of your light. That doesn't necessarily mean
that they can match you, know, your your emotion. Yeah,
(11:13):
I think sometimes I've seen this. I'm gonna take that
way too much, girl, but I've seen it take that.
Last night was since the girl was like, I just
want to be held even if it's at gunpoint, and
I was like, girl, and I commented, I was like, crazy,
party is sometimes you got to be held back to
get held down. You might not really want that, you
(11:36):
know what I'm saying, because we see it a lot
where relationships take precedent over your career, especially for women.
We see so many women even happened with me, like
you get pregnant at the height of your success, and
how do you handle that. Luckily, for me, I have
a beautiful support system my family, you know, to help
(11:59):
me and they bring him wherever I'm at, and so,
you know, you just there's so much that goes into
a relationship that I don't know. Sometimes I feel like
maybe that's not actually what you want, you know, like
the reality of it. It's a lot of hard work.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
It's a lot. Yeah, it is a lot. And the
longer you're in it, the harder it gets. The harder it.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Doesn't have to be. It doesn't have to be. And
I think it gets hard when you stop growing. I
mean life is like that too. You know, life gets
hard when you feel like you already know everything. You
don't have to ask no questions. You have to learn
thathing else. So yeah, like, relationships don't have to be hard.
It's what you make it like, if each person is
(12:40):
willing to do their part and grow and mature and
bring some new light and new life into the relationship,
try new things you're supposed to be going on this
life experience journey together there versus like I'm over here
doing these things and you're just looking at me mad
because you know what I mean, Yeah, because I'm not
making you dinner. That's kind of crazy.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
It is definitely crazy. It's definitely crazy. Yeah. Now I
felt that there's something you said in there. Oh yes,
I love the fact that you got a support system
with your child. How are you managing mom life and
career because you know, I noticed I haven't had a
(13:24):
baby yet, but I noticed in like my close friends,
just the change in them and their instincts, and like
it's actually really impressive. Like the older I get, the
more friends I have who enter this phase of life,
I'm like just in awe of like the capacity that
women hold. Yeah, so just talk to me about that.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
I think it definitely makes me more protective, more fierce,
just over what I will and won't do, what I
will not allow myself to entertain, just because I'm just like, yeah, nah,
that's not I don't feel like that's gonna help, you know,
the next generation. I don't want to do that. You know,
(14:08):
I'm very specific about how I want to be perceived
even before having a child. But now it's just like
it's just certain stuff that it's not worth it to
spend the time away from my baby if it's not
you know, helping me go in the direction I want
to go, paying me, helping me towards the goals that
I've set. Yeah, it just helps me to be able
(14:33):
to like stand on business a lot more. I also
think there's a certain amount of like unspoken respect that
you when you become a mother, but people just know
not to play with you.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
I don't know what it is.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
It's like if it's the hormones or I have idea,
but like it's certain stuff, like it's the tone of
my voice when I say certain stuff.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
They'd be like, oh, I like that, and I can
see that happening talk to me. Also, you mentioned like
just in regards to like relationships, and I don't know,
you say, a lot of people don't really realize what
it takes to be in one, and like, what is
your take on relationships?
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Now?
Speaker 2 (15:15):
I guess it is what I'm asking you, Like, especially
being a career driven woman, and we live in a
sensitive masculine era, Like I.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Think the girls are waking up. I think relationships are
beautiful when they work, but I think, you know, there's
a lot of toxicity that exists within like the idea
of what a heterosexual relationship should be and should look like.
Speaking from that perspective, because that's my truth, I think
(15:47):
that we're just not putting up with it. I saw again,
I saw I TikTok where a young lady was like,
I feel like what people are realizing out that a
lot of staying in a successful long term relationship is
really just women putting up with a bunch of bullshit.
(16:08):
You know what I'm saying, Like you looking at other women,
entertaining other women, spending your money on other women. Uh,
you know, not pouring into your home, wanting me to cook, clean,
do all of these things. Now women are the breadwinners.
And it's just like, uh, fam like, yeah, you're not
even you're supposed to keep my keep me sweeping, sweeping
(16:30):
me off my feet if you could. If as long
as you're doing that, I wouldn't mind. But you're even
doing that, baby, you ain't doing that. You don't want
on flowers. The bottom line, I want to do nothing,
and you want me to support you, cook for you,
clean for you, give you some What is the benefit here?
The math? The math is not. Yeah, put the numbers
(16:53):
and stuff around my head. I am confusion, yeah, you know.
And it's just it's becoming more and more where women
are just like y'all just rather stay single, because if
you're not helping me to elevate, if you're not pushing
me to my towards my goals and my dreams and
helping me, why am I with you, and especially not
(17:14):
if you expect me to support you, Because that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Not one lie. So yeah, we're an agreement there.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
We need the Fellas to step it up, Like, come on,
it's not that we don't want to be in relationships.
We just are not trying to take care of a
grown up. But the bar is so low. Not gonna lie, like,
the bar is really low.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
The bar is so low.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
But the thing is, if I'm gonna take care of you,
then you gotta listen to me, isn't it. That's isn't
that That's terrible? Seriously, because I'm not gonna lie to you.
If a man is taking care of me, I don't
have nothing to say, Yes, baby, what you need? You're
you hungry. So if you can't you can't tell me
(17:57):
what to do and you're not paying for nothing, that's insane.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Man. But what if he can fay? What if y'all are.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Equal, That's what I'm saying. Then if you taken care
of me, I don't have no problem about what you
asked me to do. Yes, absolutely want dinner on the table.
I got you. But it's it's the it's just unequally
yoked life.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
It's not reciprocated.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
It's not reciprocated. You know what I'm saying and it's
like the bare minimum is telling you your beautiful flowers.
I know we have this conversation all the time in culture,
but it's true. It's like it's the experience that a
lot of young women are having. And I've I've had
like the white picket fence and the ringing like I got,
I had all that. It don't mean nothing if the
(18:42):
person isn't pouring into you, you know what I'm saying,
Because really that's at the end of the day, when
all of that stuff is stripped away, it's just you
and that other person. What do you really have to offer?
You know what I'm saying, Like, if we didn't have
none of this stuff, what do we have? You know?
And I just I think it's really powerful when you
(19:03):
can align with someone and you guys can where two
or more are gathered there. God isms right, yep says
that in the word by how you manifest things, Right,
It's really powerful when you align with somebody and you
guys can create this world. But if I'm the one creating,
you know, it's just me creating. And whenever I create,
(19:26):
you mad, It's just like it's just a terrible situation, sweetie,
you know, I'll find you somebody that you like me.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
But it's so sad and I really wanted to be
more normalized. Like child Made is somebody who I rode
with all the time, and you know, he has a wife,
He involves her, he leads her. I have other mentors
who don't really have or she leads him. I should say,
actually she leads him even though nobody knows who she is,
you know what I'm saying. And then I have like
other mentors who are unmarried, who aren't led, and they're
(19:57):
you know, still outside partying and they're still X, Y
and Z, and it's just a different level of growth
for both parties, for the man and for the woman.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
So yeah, you shouldn't be in a relationship if you're
not ready to just really be humble and you know,
there has there's a certain level of humility you have
to have to be a partner, yeah, you know, to
let someone into your every day and then when somebody
gives you that level of access to not a wreck
shop like yeah, man like.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
But that's I think that's where they fuck up every time.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Like on both ends too, women do it and do it.
It's like yeah, yeah, I know you know, wrong, give
you all the access and now you're running them up
like nah, Like there's a lot of given to it.
It just takes a lot of maturity. Yeah, And honestly,
I just don't think a lot of people are even
ready to be in relationships. They really just need to
(20:51):
take time with self and figure out who you are
as a person, gets centered and get right within yourself
before you go trying to connect with other people.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
That's true, but people just have no idea of even
how to or where to begin with that. I mean,
how to connect with yourself. Nobody's connected with that. Everybody's
connected on Twitter, Instagram.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
I was gonna say, well, you're not gonna find it
as on the internet. Yeah, you know, you really have
to go outside and touch grass, climb a mountain something,
you know what I'm saying, Do something that's that's gonna
break you down a little bit, even just exercising every day,
eating right, setting yourself with a certain level of integrity,
and then when you get into a relationship, you have
(21:32):
to you have a at least like a foundation, you know,
to pull from. Yeah, it's very important. I know it
sounds like, you know, preachy, preachy, but it's coming from
somebody who's been there. You have to know who you
are in a relationship, otherwise you just become like this
congealed blob and it's just really hard to separate yourself.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Makes sense as just I guess as a woman money,
how did you find your voice? I feel like a
lot of women are unfamiliar with who they are because
they haven't really had the choice because they've been especially
like older generation, they are tied to a man, or
you know, fully got indulged into being a mother, or
you know, like I don't know. I just don't necessarily
(22:14):
feel like young women are raised to like have an
opinion on things outside of things that are you know,
for women.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
I feel like I developed this confidence in my inner
voice just from being quiet. M like, I'm gonna be
quiet and I'm gonna write down what I want. I'm
a manifested and when it comes to fruition, I know
that it came because of this. A lot of times,
(22:43):
most of the stuff that people see me doing was
an idea that I had, or very few things that
have come across my desk in the last few years
have been things that other people planted the seed. It's
always me planting the seed. And so I think I
gained confidence and I've left this little seed, I'd be quiet.
(23:07):
I don't have to take credit for it. I don't
have to let everybody know that it was me. I
know it was me, and it helps me grow confidence
when I hear that whisper. So the next time I
hear it, okay, let me follow that, and let me
follow oh, let me okay. And you keep doing that
enough to where it doesn't matter what somebody else is
saying to you or trying to what costume you're trying
(23:29):
to put on you, because a lot of times people
will project onto you like who they want you to be,
what they see for you. And I've learned to trust
myself enough to where if somebody's saying something and I
check it with my heart my spirit, I just be like, no,
I don't think I want to do that. Or I'll
be like, let me get back to you.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
You really do this?
Speaker 1 (23:53):
No, I really be like, this is how you think
about it for a second, and I want to see
how it feels in my heart, like no, I don't
know why, but yeah, no, I don't want to do it.
And a lot of times I'm spot on, like years
down the line or maybe months down the line, it'll
be something like JANKI or you know, the thing will
(24:16):
be nowhere to be found, and I'm like, see, I'm glad.
It's a mess. And so a lot of times that
comes with like resistance and people looking at you like
you're crazy. You turn things down and they get mad
at you. You know, I really could care less. I
don't care because when you have success, as soon as
(24:37):
you have another success, people forget all about that, you know,
So you're only able to demand what you can deliver.
I say that all the time. Don't be afraid to
ask as long as you can back this shit up,
you know. So I make sure that I don't throw
too much. Like, Okay, girl, you're doing a lot. You
better get in that damn studio. Make another song while
(24:58):
you're doing all at talking. But yeah, I think you know,
just finding my voices, it's simple. Just be quiet and
just let it let us speak to you.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
I love that. I love it. I love it. Okay.
On the show, we play a game car questions that
need answers. All you gotta do is feel in the blink. Okay,
the older I get the less I care. M Okay,
you would never believe me if I told you.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
My parts don't think.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Oh my god, that was the I'm just the girl
as answer, Like, Okay, sometimes I look back at my
life and.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Shake my head because damn, oh god, this is stupid.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Nothing wrong with that. From time to time, it's good.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Too cry, even though when I do cry it's only
for like three to five minutes, just because I'll be like, yoh, okay,
I'm bored.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
I'm over, are you okay, Acorn?
Speaker 1 (26:00):
I'm a Virgo Earth's sign.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Oh yeah, why interesting because that statement is so wid.
I only cry for like three minutes and the like.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
This is not fun. I want to do fun things.
Crying is nothing. What's your moon sign, Scorpio?
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Oh my god, Oh my god. Okay, and you know
you're rising?
Speaker 1 (26:25):
I don't, okay, because you actually have to know like
the time of the time. Yeah, I don't know the
exact time, okay, But those two alone, Virgo and Scorpio.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
That is intense. Yeah, that is intense.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Dark very dark.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Hm, I'm not gonna say dark.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
It's definitely dark.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
It's dark.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Yeah, no, it's dark energy for sure.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
I think the darkness shadow side though the Virgo virgos
are intense.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Yeah, but dark.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
I can see scorpio dark. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
I was like, definitely like some of the stuff that
be going through my mind and stuff happened. I'll just
be laughing loud. I can't say that out loud.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Okay, moving on, Oh my god, I'm entertained. Hey, dark
humor is great. There's a lot of people out here
who appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
I mean literally, I could be like falling apart and
I'll be like, hey, you know, at least whatever something
very inappropriate.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Have you? Have you scared people with those seven jokes?
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Oh? Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
I can recall a couple of conversations where I was like, yeah,
I think I'm crazy, don't you?
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Yeah, yeah, I'm into it. If you ever want to
share it, please do. Three things I would tell my
eighteen year old self are.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Stop spending money on niggas and number two, take yourself out,
go on that trip, go on a date by yourself,
buy that pair of shoes, don't ever h limit yourself.
You know, it's just money, you make some more. And
the third thing is it's okay to be by yourself.
(27:58):
And that goes for friends, family, just take time for yourself.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Lovely, those are great. My personality trait is.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
I think I am the best. Yeah, yeah, I think
I'm the best, and I love looking at myself in
the mirror and I just think I'm just so cute,
which is really annoying period. Yeah, I know, because like.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Ugly, Oh my god, moneylog is a character. I'm here
for it. I'm a little embarrassed by the fact that
I know so little about.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Where I come from. Okay, like my heritage, what are
you A whole lot of stuff. I was raised Black American, okay,
but we got some Dominican in there. We got some Asian,
so like from India. Maybe some even like Asian, Japanese
or Korean, I'm not really sure. Definitely some African from Africa, fire,
(29:02):
but I don't really know much. And also some Native
American indigenous as well, so I don't I don't really
know much about it outside of like I know, my
great grandmother was Native American. Her husband was an Indian
from India living in the Dominican Republic Spanish speaking, so
(29:24):
it's like there's just a.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Lot Indian from India living in South America.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Because I think it's the West Indies. Okay, so there's
a lot of that. That's where you get like curry chickens,
right curries. So it's like I didn't realize that until
I went and I saw him, Like why oh so
it's kind of like a big melting pot. Yeah down there,
like a lot of people got dropped off and interesting.
(29:51):
I mean really that's really what That's what happened. Yeah,
like a lot of those people just got dropped off
and left and had to figure it out.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
That's fire, well not fire, but it's fire that that's
something that you're thinking about, just because that's something I
think about all the time. But I've been doing I
try to do the research or just document as much
as possible.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
You know, I really want to go on that show roots. Yeah,
like there's like a waiting list to go on that
show for like two years.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Really yeah, dang, I mean it didn't go bad, yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Or somebody of somebody. I'm not spending that cup though,
because you know, you saw they'd be giving away they
be selling your DNA. Like I've seen this thing on
TikTok where this lady I know that's my AUDI need
I see nothing on the cap, but she said she
did the DNA thing, and it got her grandmama arrested. Yeah,
because apparently she had killed somebody or buried her baby. No,
(30:45):
she killed her daughter. No, And that's how they found
the granny was through her DNA.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
That's great in jail.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
I deserve to go to jail. But yeah, she's just
still crazy. So I ain't spending no cups. I don't
want to go.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
You see, Yeah, I don't know what you do, just
like the regular kid.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
It was like the ancest do like a personal person,
like a private something like pay a person to go
and track stuff down, a person who might have the
resources to like trace my lineage and figure out where
I came from and who I'm related to and all
of those things. I know, I got a lot of
(31:25):
cousins in the industry, but we want to find out
where we all came. Everybody got a fuck it.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
And that's why, honestly, especially as like the black culture
in America gets dominated by other racists, like those of
us who are left, we are really cousins. I really
feel like it's not we're not about to be here
much longer. We've probably got like another fifty hundred years
(31:51):
and I think, yeah, but black Americans. Black Americans would
be too. They'll be like a quarter you mean like
on Earth or yeah, I mean Black Americans only exist here.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Okay, Okay, I got you the popular I thought you
meant like the Earth was gonna No no.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
No, no, no no no. I'm just saying, like us and
our culture, like and.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
We're being watered down more and more with all the Yeah,
I mean, we're being watered down. Plus just like now
Africans are coming to America, so like out of the
eight percent that we make up in the country, like
black Americans are like half of that. M So like
it's like you're black, but they're black with different cultural backgrounds. Right,
(32:35):
So ours is like dwindling Dwindland, Dwindland.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
And we just have to preserve it because we are
really cousins at this point.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Right. You gotta be careful you might be relative not
for real because where I'm from literally I have dated
a cousin before. No wid Florida. It is very small
part gif. It's a place called gif. You never heard
of it.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
My family's from Tampa.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Okay, so we're like here from the boys poem.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Okay, got it?
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Yeah, So you gotta be careful. My mom used to
be like, don't be all here sneaking around with these
boys because they might be related. You need to let
me know who you're talking to.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Is it that's small of the town?
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Really that small?
Speaker 2 (33:19):
That's nuts? Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Some of the people never leave, Like, yeah, they don't
even go across the train track to the beach. Mhm,
small town vibes. I'm about to go back for Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Enjoy that. Enjoy that you can take a rest from
the villain air, you know what I'm saying, Like, I'm
still there, I go, she said, I am not breaking character.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Now We're gonna stay here for a minute. I'm loving it.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
I'm not. I like it too. I'm loving it too.
What else can we expect from money top of the year.
I know you got something planned.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
You got not madd for four crameys. So the Grammy
season this year is going to be really, really fun.
I got some really cool performances coming up, singing at
the White House for Christmas tree lighting in a couple
of weeks next week. And I'm so excited for like
new music, Like I just spent five days in Atlanta
(34:18):
and made a new project. I'm really excited.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Wait, is this a Bacocks j D? Production?
Speaker 1 (34:24):
No?
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Okay, Like, of.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Course I'm gonna work with them, but like, I work
so fast and I write so fast that if you're
not there, you'll miss it. So, you know, JD and
and beat Cocks they off on the they got their
own stuff going on. You know, JD's doing residencies and
so trying to catch him is a little bit of
a challenge right now. But I went back in with Tricky,
who executive produced this Revenge project, and we just knocked
(34:52):
it out, like me, Tricky dream uh, Tran my producer Charlie,
So oh yeah, it's pretty much the same team that
did Revenge.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
And what are we talking about where it's just.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Pure R and Bay. What we remember like love making music, ballads,
emotional ballads, a couple of fun things on there.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
What about features?
Speaker 1 (35:20):
I haven't gotten that far yet. I'm okay with not
doing features, honestly, I really am. Like, unless the artist
really wants to work with me.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
I feel like you don't put a lot of features
on your personal project, but you do be giving people.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
I do do features, Yeah, I will do it, but again,
those are things that people request of me, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
I loved you and Tucy thank you, loved loved you
and Alex Vaughn I like, I like hook giving money thank.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
You actually know that Alex vand Recer she had that
for a long time and I heard it. I actually
wanted to cut it and she was like, no, I'm
keeping this. I was like, okay, well let me know girl,
And then when she got ready to put it out, oh,
I was like, yeah, what's up with that record? Like
she can I do a feature? Like what's up? And uh,
That's how that one happened. And then Tuci I actually
didn't write that hook either. That was a nicer Charles
(36:11):
and lunch Money Lewis and Jeff Giddy who produced Ruin Me,
and he played it for me and I was like
can I can I cut? Like what's up with this song?
Originally I wanted to give it to Central C but
he was like, yeah, that that's not my style and
do that, which I didn't realize at the time. He
was a bad man, you know, he's a shata and
(36:36):
so totally understood. You went in a different direction, and
it's doing really well with TUSI. Actually right now, I
think they're really pushing it at radio. So yeah, shout
out to Tucy.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
That was easily my favorite song on the on the project. Yeah,
but okay, so new album on the way all right,
top of next year.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
I mean basically, I'm spoken for all the way up
till July. We got Oelly. It's a whole bunch of
stuff I'm doing, essences.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
I love it for you, Yeah I do. I'm a fan.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Yeah, I mean, I already know what I'm doing all
the way to the end of July.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
So that's intense if.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
You want to hurry up and get me on the books,
because you're not gonna be able to do it in
a couple of weeks.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Heard you, what a blessing. Well, thank you Money for
stopping by, thank you for having me. Yes, of course, everybody,
Money long makes you guys follow off. Y'all don't already
until next time.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
And my parts really do not think they don't it
Roses
Yeah, so you gotta be careful. My mom needs to
be like, don't y'all here sneaking around with these boys
because they might be related. You need to let me
know who you're talking to.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Is it? That's fall of the town.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
We need the fellas to step it up, Like, come on,
it's not that we don't want to be in relationships.
We just are not trying to take care of a
grown up. But the bar is so low.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Not gonna lie like, the bar is really low. The
bar is so low.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
So the thing is, if I'm gonna take care of you,
then you gotta listen to me. And my parts really
do not think they don't. It's Malee Roses. What's up,
Y'all's your girl? Money Long and my new project, Revenge
is out right now at Yo, Nyla. We need to talk.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
What's going on, guys, and welcome to another episode that
we need to talk today. I have a very special
guest in the building. We have money Long here. Hey, y'all,
how are you.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
I'm well, how are you?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I'm good. I'm excited to have you.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
I'm excited to be here now.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
You just dropped the new album Revenge. Talk to me
about money in her revenge era.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
I'm definitely you know, if I was gonna be an
evil villain, this is definitely I always say the genesis
of that. I spent a lot of years like just
being nice and you know, there's nothing wrong with that,
but it gets you so far, right, it really gets
you stepped on. Yeah, And so for me, it's not
(01:23):
actually a villain era like that in the sense that
like I'm not the same person that people knew, but
like my villain era is just having boundaries, just stand
enough for myself, telling people know, but I don't feel
like doing something. I do not care what you got
going on. I said, no, you know, And it's so
crazy that that's considered a villain era, right, It is
(01:43):
just having standards. So yeah, like that's definitely where I'm at.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
That's so true. Especially as a woman, I feel like
you're almost like expected to always be there or to
say yes, or to to just deliver on task, even
outside of not wanting to. So I am inspired watching
you in this journey only because like as a woman
I can just relate, not just as a.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Woman, as a black woman. You're expected to just be
happy to be allowed, you know, like you should just
be happy we don't have you summer cleaning up. I'm
being so for real when I say that, Like it's
almost like there's no way you could be that smart,
that pretty, that talented, that resourceful, that valuable, and how
(02:26):
dare you know it? Oh my god, how dare you
ask for somebody to pay you what? You way? You
should just be happy that we even let you in.
So that's the whole struggle in itself.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
That is so, what would you say is like the
what was the moment of like the root of the
origin story, like where you were just like you know what, No,
I'm not having this. Would you say it actually started
with like releasing hours and hours?
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Nah, It's just like I literally have tried everything, try
every which way tried, you know, being kind, giving people
a chance, starting out, giving people a list treatment when
they are just starting out, like people will take advantage.
They will literally run you into the ground, and then
(03:16):
it becomes entitlement and it becomes you know, you have
to let people earn it. You have to let people
figure it out on their own, go through the journey
on their own, because if you don't, they won't appreciate it.
When you give it to them. And I also like
realized when I need people, they weren't there for me.
(03:36):
And so when I started the Money Long Journey, it
literally just me and a handful of people, like for people,
that's it. It was like I need y'all, like do
this with me. And even there was some difficulty there
because I have such deep, you know, vast dreams. A
(03:58):
lot of the things that I did over the last
year and a half, most of the people that I
started with did not believe that I could do it,
which is crazy, right, because if you didn't believe, why
would you be a part of this? Why would you
be a part? So they believed to a certain extent,
But even myself, like I out achieved myself in the
(04:20):
sense that like the stuff that I wrote down in
my vision board, my vision board and my manifestation journal,
like yeah, I wanted it, but I also didn't realize
like how it would come and what it would feel
like when it would come, and the impact of like
I think I have on my vision board five weeks
at number one on Billboard, and I Think Made for
(04:41):
Me did four. So it's like you don't actually understand
how impactful things might be. When you actually achieved them.
And so it's not just the having of the thing
or the getting the thing, it's the nurturing and the
(05:03):
responsibility of the thing, you know, and how it makes
other people react towards you dealing with all of that
weight and like me being who I am and people
expecting me to come in the room and be a
certain way, be rude, be demanding, and I'm just I'm
just a chill guy, you know.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
You know, literally, I'm just chilling.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
You know, I don't won't bother nobody, you know, Let
me get my little tea and my whatever. I'm cool,
And uh, I think it just becomes like this immense
uh responsibility to be somebody's projection of you, like to
fill that expectation, when really it's just like, nah, you know,
(05:48):
I actually no, I don't want to do that. I'm
gonna I'm gonna reserve the niceties for the people who
deserve it. But I'm here to do a job. Like
I just saw something on TikTok the other day where
the lady was saying that I don't have I no
longer have the privilege of using the time in the
space to express my gratitude I have to come here
(06:11):
ready to work. I'm here to do a job, and
so when you give I'm just happy to be here.
I can't believe i'm here. Thank you so much for
a seat at the table. It makes other people second guess, like,
wait a minute, should I be following this person because
they don't seem like they're too sure. So walking into
a room and understanding like, no, this is my position,
(06:33):
this is what I came here to do. Here's the
agenda for the day. Thank you so much for everybody
for their contributions. Here's what you go doom break like.
It's just a different mindset. And I think again, not
necessarily a villain era, but when everybody used to you
being so polite to you, knownky Dory, when you get serious,
(06:55):
they get offended.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Yeah, they're never like a certain woman, right, never like
the sort of women. But all you're saying really is
just being a leader and leading your own vision. And
you know, especially you know someone who has a resume
of writing for other people and helping other people's visions
come to life, Like it's so admirable to watch you
bring your vision to life, and especially like in music,
(07:18):
I feel like we're oftentimes, and by way, I just
mean really all women in music, I feel like we're
always the muse to somebody else, like you know, such
and such helped me create this project, or we're like
whatever the case may be. So yeah, I just think
the cool and unique thing about you is just really
being able to flex your voice because you can.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
You know.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
We need it. But you talked about a lot of
things on the project that for some of these songs.
I'm like, all right, I know she didn't really this
is when isn't personal, but it hit me, which is thirties.
I'm like, man, everybody always tells you you're on a clock,
like especially as a woman. And then I'm just like
I had this conversation with my into her, Angie Martinez,
(08:01):
and I'm like, man, you know, I'm getting up there
like I do want to have a family and I
do want to have a career and blah blah blah
blah blah. And then like I gave her like this
whole speech. I'm damn near about to cry having this meltdown,
and she's like, yo, it's a fake clock, Like you're fine.
And then I'm like, all right, all right, but talk
to me just about the record thirties? Did you pin it?
(08:22):
Was it like like through people, you know, like what's
the story?
Speaker 1 (08:25):
I know that that was the first song actually that
I had towards this project. I was like eight months
pregnant still and just thinking about like, man, I don't
want to be by myself. Not necessarily that there was
any clock, but just like trying to explain what that
(08:49):
I'm in this feeling of like am I ever gonna
find somebody? You know, especially as a hard working, you know,
young adult, it's like I don't have time really for
a relationship. I barely have time to like get a good,
nice sleep, you know. I think so many people relate
to that from early twenties to forties and fifties. They're
(09:13):
just like, yeah, no, definitely understand. I think also too,
it's like you just want somebody to share it with.
That's it. You have all these accomplishments, you want to
have somebody to be like good for you, good job babe,
like you know, or help take your mind off then
ease your mind, like if you had a rough week
and you know, let's go on vacation or let's have
(09:34):
a movie night, or let me cook for you. So
I think sometimes there's a void that is you can't
feel it with family or friends, Like there's an intimacy
that's had with a lover that you cannot get from
anything else. And I think sometimes people forget that and
(09:56):
it's like feelingless.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Cold numb.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Yeah, like you know, just situationships and just humping on
people like you know what I'm saying, sneaky Lincoln and
all that kind of stuff. You know that's not for me.
I can't do it.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
No, it's all distractions, all distractions that lead you nowhere.
I'm not a fan either, but okay, and then let's
talk about Actually let's start with Superpowers. The first record
on there. I thought it was really dope because it's, well,
it's just a good parallel to life, like, you know what,
my powers work here and here and here, But why
(10:34):
is it not working with you?
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Like?
Speaker 2 (10:36):
What is that? But do you think or I guess
when you're making the record, is it do you think
it's like dealing with somebody for so long that they're
just impressed with your superpowers? Or is it more so
just like it just doesn't work with you, Like it's
just God, it could.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Be a lot of things. I think it could be
you know, you guys are not in alignment. Yeah, it
could be that. You know, sometimes people are just magnetized
to you because of your light. That doesn't necessarily mean
that they can match you, know, your your emotion. Yeah,
(11:13):
I think sometimes I've seen this. I'm gonna take that
way too much, girl, but I've seen it take that.
Last night was since the girl was like, I just
want to be held even if it's at gunpoint, and
I was like, girl, and I commented, I was like, crazy,
party is sometimes you got to be held back to
get held down. You might not really want that, you
(11:36):
know what I'm saying, because we see it a lot
where relationships take precedent over your career, especially for women.
We see so many women even happened with me, like
you get pregnant at the height of your success, and
how do you handle that. Luckily, for me, I have
a beautiful support system my family, you know, to help
(11:59):
me and they bring him wherever I'm at, and so,
you know, you just there's so much that goes into
a relationship that I don't know. Sometimes I feel like
maybe that's not actually what you want, you know, like
the reality of it. It's a lot of hard work.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
It's a lot. Yeah, it is a lot. And the
longer you're in it, the harder it gets. The harder it.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Doesn't have to be. It doesn't have to be. And
I think it gets hard when you stop growing. I
mean life is like that too. You know, life gets
hard when you feel like you already know everything. You
don't have to ask no questions. You have to learn
thathing else. So yeah, like, relationships don't have to be hard.
It's what you make it like, if each person is
(12:40):
willing to do their part and grow and mature and
bring some new light and new life into the relationship,
try new things you're supposed to be going on this
life experience journey together there versus like I'm over here
doing these things and you're just looking at me mad
because you know what I mean, Yeah, because I'm not
making you dinner. That's kind of crazy.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
It is definitely crazy. It's definitely crazy. Yeah. Now I
felt that there's something you said in there. Oh yes,
I love the fact that you got a support system
with your child. How are you managing mom life and
career because you know, I noticed I haven't had a
(13:24):
baby yet, but I noticed in like my close friends,
just the change in them and their instincts, and like
it's actually really impressive. Like the older I get, the
more friends I have who enter this phase of life,
I'm like just in awe of like the capacity that
women hold. Yeah, so just talk to me about that.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
I think it definitely makes me more protective, more fierce,
just over what I will and won't do, what I
will not allow myself to entertain, just because I'm just like, yeah, nah,
that's not I don't feel like that's gonna help, you know,
the next generation. I don't want to do that. You know,
(14:08):
I'm very specific about how I want to be perceived
even before having a child. But now it's just like
it's just certain stuff that it's not worth it to
spend the time away from my baby if it's not
you know, helping me go in the direction I want
to go, paying me, helping me towards the goals that
I've set. Yeah, it just helps me to be able
(14:33):
to like stand on business a lot more. I also
think there's a certain amount of like unspoken respect that
you when you become a mother, but people just know
not to play with you.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
I don't know what it is.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
It's like if it's the hormones or I have idea,
but like it's certain stuff, like it's the tone of
my voice when I say certain stuff.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
They'd be like, oh, I like that, and I can
see that happening talk to me. Also, you mentioned like
just in regards to like relationships, and I don't know,
you say, a lot of people don't really realize what
it takes to be in one, and like, what is
your take on relationships?
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Now?
Speaker 2 (15:15):
I guess it is what I'm asking you, Like, especially
being a career driven woman, and we live in a
sensitive masculine era, Like I.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Think the girls are waking up. I think relationships are
beautiful when they work, but I think, you know, there's
a lot of toxicity that exists within like the idea
of what a heterosexual relationship should be and should look like.
Speaking from that perspective, because that's my truth, I think
(15:47):
that we're just not putting up with it. I saw again,
I saw I TikTok where a young lady was like,
I feel like what people are realizing out that a
lot of staying in a successful long term relationship is
really just women putting up with a bunch of bullshit.
(16:08):
You know what I'm saying, Like you looking at other women,
entertaining other women, spending your money on other women. Uh,
you know, not pouring into your home, wanting me to cook, clean,
do all of these things. Now women are the breadwinners.
And it's just like, uh, fam like, yeah, you're not
even you're supposed to keep my keep me sweeping, sweeping
(16:30):
me off my feet if you could. If as long
as you're doing that, I wouldn't mind. But you're even
doing that, baby, you ain't doing that. You don't want
on flowers. The bottom line, I want to do nothing,
and you want me to support you, cook for you,
clean for you, give you some What is the benefit here?
The math? The math is not. Yeah, put the numbers
(16:53):
and stuff around my head. I am confusion, yeah, you know.
And it's just it's becoming more and more where women
are just like y'all just rather stay single, because if
you're not helping me to elevate, if you're not pushing
me to my towards my goals and my dreams and
helping me, why am I with you, and especially not
(17:14):
if you expect me to support you, Because that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Not one lie. So yeah, we're an agreement there.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
We need the Fellas to step it up, Like, come on,
it's not that we don't want to be in relationships.
We just are not trying to take care of a
grown up. But the bar is so low. Not gonna lie, like,
the bar is really low.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
The bar is so low.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
But the thing is, if I'm gonna take care of you,
then you gotta listen to me, isn't it. That's isn't
that That's terrible? Seriously, because I'm not gonna lie to you.
If a man is taking care of me, I don't
have nothing to say, Yes, baby, what you need? You're
you hungry. So if you can't you can't tell me
(17:57):
what to do and you're not paying for nothing, that's insane.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Man. But what if he can fay? What if y'all are.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Equal, That's what I'm saying. Then if you taken care
of me, I don't have no problem about what you
asked me to do. Yes, absolutely want dinner on the table.
I got you. But it's it's the it's just unequally
yoked life.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
It's not reciprocated.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
It's not reciprocated. You know what I'm saying and it's
like the bare minimum is telling you your beautiful flowers.
I know we have this conversation all the time in culture,
but it's true. It's like it's the experience that a
lot of young women are having. And I've I've had
like the white picket fence and the ringing like I got,
I had all that. It don't mean nothing if the
(18:42):
person isn't pouring into you, you know what I'm saying,
Because really that's at the end of the day, when
all of that stuff is stripped away, it's just you
and that other person. What do you really have to offer?
You know what I'm saying, Like, if we didn't have
none of this stuff, what do we have? You know?
And I just I think it's really powerful when you
(19:03):
can align with someone and you guys can where two
or more are gathered there. God isms right, yep says
that in the word by how you manifest things, Right,
It's really powerful when you align with somebody and you
guys can create this world. But if I'm the one creating,
you know, it's just me creating. And whenever I create,
(19:26):
you mad, It's just like it's just a terrible situation, sweetie,
you know, I'll find you somebody that you like me.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
But it's so sad and I really wanted to be
more normalized. Like child Made is somebody who I rode
with all the time, and you know, he has a wife,
He involves her, he leads her. I have other mentors
who don't really have or she leads him. I should say,
actually she leads him even though nobody knows who she is,
you know what I'm saying. And then I have like
other mentors who are unmarried, who aren't led, and they're
(19:57):
you know, still outside partying and they're still X, Y
and Z, and it's just a different level of growth
for both parties, for the man and for the woman.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
So yeah, you shouldn't be in a relationship if you're
not ready to just really be humble and you know,
there has there's a certain level of humility you have
to have to be a partner, yeah, you know, to
let someone into your every day and then when somebody
gives you that level of access to not a wreck
shop like yeah, man like.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
But that's I think that's where they fuck up every time.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Like on both ends too, women do it and do it.
It's like yeah, yeah, I know you know, wrong, give
you all the access and now you're running them up
like nah, Like there's a lot of given to it.
It just takes a lot of maturity. Yeah, And honestly,
I just don't think a lot of people are even
ready to be in relationships. They really just need to
(20:51):
take time with self and figure out who you are
as a person, gets centered and get right within yourself
before you go trying to connect with other people.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
That's true, but people just have no idea of even
how to or where to begin with that. I mean,
how to connect with yourself. Nobody's connected with that. Everybody's
connected on Twitter, Instagram.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
I was gonna say, well, you're not gonna find it
as on the internet. Yeah, you know, you really have
to go outside and touch grass, climb a mountain something,
you know what I'm saying, Do something that's that's gonna
break you down a little bit, even just exercising every day,
eating right, setting yourself with a certain level of integrity,
and then when you get into a relationship, you have
(21:32):
to you have a at least like a foundation, you know,
to pull from. Yeah, it's very important. I know it
sounds like, you know, preachy, preachy, but it's coming from
somebody who's been there. You have to know who you
are in a relationship, otherwise you just become like this
congealed blob and it's just really hard to separate yourself.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Makes sense as just I guess as a woman money,
how did you find your voice? I feel like a
lot of women are unfamiliar with who they are because
they haven't really had the choice because they've been especially
like older generation, they are tied to a man, or
you know, fully got indulged into being a mother, or
you know, like I don't know. I just don't necessarily
(22:14):
feel like young women are raised to like have an
opinion on things outside of things that are you know,
for women.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
I feel like I developed this confidence in my inner
voice just from being quiet. M like, I'm gonna be
quiet and I'm gonna write down what I want. I'm
a manifested and when it comes to fruition, I know
that it came because of this. A lot of times,
(22:43):
most of the stuff that people see me doing was
an idea that I had, or very few things that
have come across my desk in the last few years
have been things that other people planted the seed. It's
always me planting the seed. And so I think I
gained confidence and I've left this little seed, I'd be quiet.
(23:07):
I don't have to take credit for it. I don't
have to let everybody know that it was me. I
know it was me, and it helps me grow confidence
when I hear that whisper. So the next time I
hear it, okay, let me follow that, and let me
follow oh, let me okay. And you keep doing that
enough to where it doesn't matter what somebody else is
saying to you or trying to what costume you're trying
(23:29):
to put on you, because a lot of times people
will project onto you like who they want you to be,
what they see for you. And I've learned to trust
myself enough to where if somebody's saying something and I
check it with my heart my spirit, I just be like, no,
I don't think I want to do that. Or I'll
be like, let me get back to you.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
You really do this?
Speaker 1 (23:53):
No, I really be like, this is how you think
about it for a second, and I want to see
how it feels in my heart, like no, I don't
know why, but yeah, no, I don't want to do it.
And a lot of times I'm spot on, like years
down the line or maybe months down the line, it'll
be something like JANKI or you know, the thing will
(24:16):
be nowhere to be found, and I'm like, see, I'm glad.
It's a mess. And so a lot of times that
comes with like resistance and people looking at you like
you're crazy. You turn things down and they get mad
at you. You know, I really could care less. I
don't care because when you have success, as soon as
(24:37):
you have another success, people forget all about that, you know,
So you're only able to demand what you can deliver.
I say that all the time. Don't be afraid to
ask as long as you can back this shit up,
you know. So I make sure that I don't throw
too much. Like, Okay, girl, you're doing a lot. You
better get in that damn studio. Make another song while
(24:58):
you're doing all at talking. But yeah, I think you know,
just finding my voices, it's simple. Just be quiet and
just let it let us speak to you.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
I love that. I love it. I love it. Okay.
On the show, we play a game car questions that
need answers. All you gotta do is feel in the blink. Okay,
the older I get the less I care. M Okay,
you would never believe me if I told you.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
My parts don't think.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Oh my god, that was the I'm just the girl
as answer, Like, Okay, sometimes I look back at my
life and.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Shake my head because damn, oh god, this is stupid.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Nothing wrong with that. From time to time, it's good.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Too cry, even though when I do cry it's only
for like three to five minutes, just because I'll be like, yoh, okay,
I'm bored.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
I'm over, are you okay, Acorn?
Speaker 1 (26:00):
I'm a Virgo Earth's sign.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Oh yeah, why interesting because that statement is so wid.
I only cry for like three minutes and the like.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
This is not fun. I want to do fun things.
Crying is nothing. What's your moon sign, Scorpio?
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Oh my god, Oh my god. Okay, and you know
you're rising?
Speaker 1 (26:25):
I don't, okay, because you actually have to know like
the time of the time. Yeah, I don't know the
exact time, okay, But those two alone, Virgo and Scorpio.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
That is intense. Yeah, that is intense.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Dark very dark.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Hm, I'm not gonna say dark.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
It's definitely dark.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
It's dark.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Yeah, no, it's dark energy for sure.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
I think the darkness shadow side though the Virgo virgos
are intense.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Yeah, but dark.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
I can see scorpio dark. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
I was like, definitely like some of the stuff that
be going through my mind and stuff happened. I'll just
be laughing loud. I can't say that out loud.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Okay, moving on, Oh my god, I'm entertained. Hey, dark
humor is great. There's a lot of people out here
who appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
I mean literally, I could be like falling apart and
I'll be like, hey, you know, at least whatever something
very inappropriate.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Have you? Have you scared people with those seven jokes?
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Oh? Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
I can recall a couple of conversations where I was like, yeah,
I think I'm crazy, don't you?
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Yeah, yeah, I'm into it. If you ever want to
share it, please do. Three things I would tell my
eighteen year old self are.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Stop spending money on niggas and number two, take yourself out,
go on that trip, go on a date by yourself,
buy that pair of shoes, don't ever h limit yourself.
You know, it's just money, you make some more. And
the third thing is it's okay to be by yourself.
(27:58):
And that goes for friends, family, just take time for yourself.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Lovely, those are great. My personality trait is.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
I think I am the best. Yeah, yeah, I think
I'm the best, and I love looking at myself in
the mirror and I just think I'm just so cute,
which is really annoying period. Yeah, I know, because like.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Ugly, Oh my god, moneylog is a character. I'm here
for it. I'm a little embarrassed by the fact that
I know so little about.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Where I come from. Okay, like my heritage, what are
you A whole lot of stuff. I was raised Black American, okay,
but we got some Dominican in there. We got some Asian,
so like from India. Maybe some even like Asian, Japanese
or Korean, I'm not really sure. Definitely some African from Africa, fire,
(29:02):
but I don't really know much. And also some Native
American indigenous as well, so I don't I don't really
know much about it outside of like I know, my
great grandmother was Native American. Her husband was an Indian
from India living in the Dominican Republic Spanish speaking, so
(29:24):
it's like there's just a.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Lot Indian from India living in South America.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Because I think it's the West Indies. Okay, so there's
a lot of that. That's where you get like curry chickens,
right curries. So it's like I didn't realize that until
I went and I saw him, Like why oh so
it's kind of like a big melting pot. Yeah down there,
like a lot of people got dropped off and interesting.
(29:51):
I mean really that's really what That's what happened. Yeah,
like a lot of those people just got dropped off
and left and had to figure it out.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
That's fire, well not fire, but it's fire that that's
something that you're thinking about, just because that's something I
think about all the time. But I've been doing I
try to do the research or just document as much
as possible.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
You know, I really want to go on that show roots. Yeah,
like there's like a waiting list to go on that
show for like two years.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Really yeah, dang, I mean it didn't go bad, yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Or somebody of somebody. I'm not spending that cup though,
because you know, you saw they'd be giving away they
be selling your DNA. Like I've seen this thing on
TikTok where this lady I know that's my AUDI need
I see nothing on the cap, but she said she
did the DNA thing, and it got her grandmama arrested. Yeah,
because apparently she had killed somebody or buried her baby. No,
(30:45):
she killed her daughter. No, And that's how they found
the granny was through her DNA.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
That's great in jail.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
I deserve to go to jail. But yeah, she's just
still crazy. So I ain't spending no cups. I don't
want to go.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
You see, Yeah, I don't know what you do, just
like the regular kid.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
It was like the ancest do like a personal person,
like a private something like pay a person to go
and track stuff down, a person who might have the
resources to like trace my lineage and figure out where
I came from and who I'm related to and all
of those things. I know, I got a lot of
(31:25):
cousins in the industry, but we want to find out
where we all came. Everybody got a fuck it.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
And that's why, honestly, especially as like the black culture
in America gets dominated by other racists, like those of
us who are left, we are really cousins. I really
feel like it's not we're not about to be here
much longer. We've probably got like another fifty hundred years
(31:51):
and I think, yeah, but black Americans. Black Americans would
be too. They'll be like a quarter you mean like
on Earth or yeah, I mean Black Americans only exist here.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Okay, Okay, I got you the popular I thought you
meant like the Earth was gonna No no.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
No, no, no no no. I'm just saying, like us and
our culture, like and.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
We're being watered down more and more with all the Yeah,
I mean, we're being watered down. Plus just like now
Africans are coming to America, so like out of the
eight percent that we make up in the country, like
black Americans are like half of that. M So like
it's like you're black, but they're black with different cultural backgrounds. Right,
(32:35):
So ours is like dwindling Dwindland, Dwindland.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
And we just have to preserve it because we are
really cousins at this point.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Right. You gotta be careful you might be relative not
for real because where I'm from literally I have dated
a cousin before. No wid Florida. It is very small
part gif. It's a place called gif. You never heard
of it.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
My family's from Tampa.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Okay, so we're like here from the boys poem.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Okay, got it?
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Yeah, So you gotta be careful. My mom used to
be like, don't be all here sneaking around with these
boys because they might be related. You need to let
me know who you're talking to.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Is it that's small of the town?
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Really that small?
Speaker 2 (33:19):
That's nuts? Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Some of the people never leave, Like, yeah, they don't
even go across the train track to the beach. Mhm,
small town vibes. I'm about to go back for Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Enjoy that. Enjoy that you can take a rest from
the villain air, you know what I'm saying, Like, I'm
still there, I go, she said, I am not breaking character.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Now We're gonna stay here for a minute. I'm loving it.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
I'm not. I like it too. I'm loving it too.
What else can we expect from money top of the year.
I know you got something planned.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
You got not madd for four crameys. So the Grammy
season this year is going to be really, really fun.
I got some really cool performances coming up, singing at
the White House for Christmas tree lighting in a couple
of weeks next week. And I'm so excited for like
new music, Like I just spent five days in Atlanta
(34:18):
and made a new project. I'm really excited.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Wait, is this a Bacocks j D? Production?
Speaker 1 (34:24):
No?
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Okay, Like, of.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Course I'm gonna work with them, but like, I work
so fast and I write so fast that if you're
not there, you'll miss it. So, you know, JD and
and beat Cocks they off on the they got their
own stuff going on. You know, JD's doing residencies and
so trying to catch him is a little bit of
a challenge right now. But I went back in with Tricky,
who executive produced this Revenge project, and we just knocked
(34:52):
it out, like me, Tricky dream uh, Tran my producer Charlie,
So oh yeah, it's pretty much the same team that
did Revenge.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
And what are we talking about where it's just.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Pure R and Bay. What we remember like love making music, ballads,
emotional ballads, a couple of fun things on there.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
What about features?
Speaker 1 (35:20):
I haven't gotten that far yet. I'm okay with not
doing features, honestly, I really am. Like, unless the artist
really wants to work with me.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
I feel like you don't put a lot of features
on your personal project, but you do be giving people.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
I do do features, Yeah, I will do it, but again,
those are things that people request of me, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
I loved you and Tucy thank you, loved loved you
and Alex Vaughn I like, I like hook giving money thank.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
You actually know that Alex vand Recer she had that
for a long time and I heard it. I actually
wanted to cut it and she was like, no, I'm
keeping this. I was like, okay, well let me know girl,
And then when she got ready to put it out, oh,
I was like, yeah, what's up with that record? Like
she can I do a feature? Like what's up? And uh,
That's how that one happened. And then Tuci I actually
didn't write that hook either. That was a nicer Charles
(36:11):
and lunch Money Lewis and Jeff Giddy who produced Ruin Me,
and he played it for me and I was like
can I can I cut? Like what's up with this song?
Originally I wanted to give it to Central C but
he was like, yeah, that that's not my style and
do that, which I didn't realize at the time. He
was a bad man, you know, he's a shata and
(36:36):
so totally understood. You went in a different direction, and
it's doing really well with TUSI. Actually right now, I
think they're really pushing it at radio. So yeah, shout
out to Tucy.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
That was easily my favorite song on the on the project. Yeah,
but okay, so new album on the way all right,
top of next year.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
I mean basically, I'm spoken for all the way up
till July. We got Oelly. It's a whole bunch of
stuff I'm doing, essences.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
I love it for you, Yeah I do. I'm a fan.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Yeah, I mean, I already know what I'm doing all
the way to the end of July.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
So that's intense if.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
You want to hurry up and get me on the books,
because you're not gonna be able to do it in
a couple of weeks.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Heard you, what a blessing. Well, thank you Money for
stopping by, thank you for having me. Yes, of course, everybody,
Money long makes you guys follow off. Y'all don't already
until next time.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
And my parts really do not think they don't it
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