What if you could start fresh in a new city, or even a new country, and redefine your identity? Join us for an engaging conversation with Smino as he shares his personal journey with music, reflections on past projects like "Netflix and Duse," and the exciting evolution leading to his latest work, "Maybe a Nirvana." Smino opens up about the creative process, the upsides and downsides of independent artistry, and his plans for multiple album releases in 2024. The candid insights and humor provide a window into his unique artistic mindset and future ambitions.
Ever considered packing up and moving to a new city to escape reminders of a past relationship? We tackle the emotional and logistical challenges of leaving long-term relationships behind, with discussions about potential new beginnings in places like Los Angeles and Rio de Janeiro. We explore the cultural adjustment and the thrill of immersing oneself in new communities and music scenes. This lively and heartfelt exchange emphasizes self-empowerment and embracing one's identity, while recognizing the influence of family and finances when choosing bustling cities like London.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up guy?
Speaker 2 (00:00):
And I Listenmone here and I just finished interviewing Smino.
Not those who know me know I'm a huge, huge
Smino fan, and his new project Maybe in Nirvana just dropped.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
I want to hear from you guys. Let me know
how y'all feel about the project.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Here's a three big takeaways that I learned after our interview. One,
Smino said if he could, he wish he never would
have put out Netflix and Duce, which I think is crazy.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
One song I wish I never put out was Netflix
and du.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Wow, Yo, you're crazy? You think this does not drop
a nut emotion in the chat.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Number two is the record and pronouns was originally called
Pimp Soda, but Smino said this year we're being positive,
not pimp positive.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
I feel like we're positive, not pin positive.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
I don't even really know what that means, but it
sounds positive to me.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
And then number three Smino's advice for getting over a breakup.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
It just moved to a new city, which I'm honestly.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Not mad at even to this day. That song is
hard to listen to for me almost having a baby.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
I feel like that's the best way to do a breakup.
Just move out of town.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Too bad, I can't anyway, Let's get to the interview.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
What's good your boy Smino and my new project maybe
in Nirvana Edge out right?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Nah, what's up now? We need to talk now.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
I want to talk about the music, cause I.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
I sent her the album like also you like, I
literally like the only like.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Person that's in your world that I sent it to.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
I sent it to a couple of homies and made music,
a couple that don't make music.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
And then you what did they say?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
They it?
Speaker 4 (01:29):
What's crazy is everybody gave me very detailed feedback. I
feel like they thought I wanted that shit, Like I
really just want a niggas to I really don't person.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
You didn't give no context either, you just sent it.
That's why I was like, I hope you're open to feedback.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Yeah, nah, well see with me, Like it's no, it's
no point of getting feedback from music, Like it's no point.
All that matters is niggas like it yes or no?
Cause like at that point, I'm already the maid. You know,
fifty more things and shit, I understood the feedback is
like if I want to if I'm trying to make
like a good drink and I need to know how
do you think it's taste?
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Like if I had as, I have no recipe, I'll
just be flying through life.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
So if this is the R or are you announcing
that it was the original Love for Rent or not?
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Uh, I'm basically telling everybody that it's the album I
made before I made Love for Rent. But cause I
I what's crazy about it? Yes, it was called Love
Rent for sure.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
It was even a song called Love for Rent on it.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Yeah, we hear it.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
But I changed that song to maybe in Neirvana cause
I said maybe in Nirvana on that song. But yeah,
it's just more songs from time Stamp shit than anything.
It ain't like I was trying to Uh, I don't know.
I'm not trying to make niggas, no nothing. It's just
noose to Meino music, you know. And it's from an
era of my life where I'm like, Nigga, this shit
gotta come out, cause if I don't put this out,
(02:53):
then I feel weird putting.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Out the next shit. You know. It's like it was
just burning me.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
So the chapter that you like, nah, this needs.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
To be put this out. Yeah, it was just whole
just a whole lot of lot going on.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Well, since you were holding it and I know you've
been doing more music, does that mean like next year
you're flooding bad?
Speaker 4 (03:12):
So, man, Yeah, I tweeted some shit like three hours
of twenty twenty four. It's nigga, my manage to pump
my brakes.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
It's all good though.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
We did new deals, new business and shit like that,
So now it makes sense to do that top of
the year before I go on on the road.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Are you still technically ind Yeah?
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Yeah, I'm doing destroy right now with some with some
good folks. But I'm an independent artist.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Now.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Good for you man, you've Yeah, you're like one of
the heads.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
I feel like head leaders and independent artists that actually
like cultivated a successful fan base.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
That's hard. That's the tightest, you don't think. So yeah,
I mean I think I got a great fan base.
I I agree for sure. I agree.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
I really you know what's crazy. I never really look
at like everybody else.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
That's my problem. Probably maybe I should start looking at everybody.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
I never really looked at the field that I mean,
I just be like seeing how far I can go,
like and all the shit that I made.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Like I was telling my shorty, I'm.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Like, cause she was like you listening to yourself a lot,
I'm like, well, shit, i'd be inspiring myself, like my
old shit is so inspiring to.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Me because I'd be just like what was that nigga?
Thinking like what.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
What I eat that day? Like what I smoked that day?
Cause it'd be some stuff I just never can do again.
Once I did it, it's enough, I've done it.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
But like with some.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Old stuff you'd be listening to, like Damn, I was
really in a bag.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Black Swan. It was a song.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
I was like, I'm from the louse. What I'm saying,
I'm from the loup, give me the lou all my
niggas to shoot packs. When the food she feeling my
juice and feeling the tube, I was like, damn, I
would never like not Well, nowadays, I've been rapping crazy
like that on my newer shit, but like I think
that I don't know the pocket I was in. I
was like, that was the last time I think. While
(04:54):
I was putting on music, I was like, I'm trying
to be the rap goat and then I start being
I start realizing that people was flocking up like wild,
I was Roses and like Netflix and do say, and
I'm like, damn, I ain't even realized I was that
good at that I had just found my singing voice
in a in a certain sense like I was I
was singing since probably like twenty fifteen, but like I
had just found my singing voice.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Shit.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
So yeah, it's funny because as much as I love rap,
when it comes to like what I actually replay, the
most of my playlist is definitely more melodic.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Yeah, I mean it lends itself to this though you
don't have to listen to it. It's like a it's
like a good a good show that ain't too deep,
like Avid Elementary. That's like Avid Elementary is like melodic music.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
To me.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
I love watching that show cause it's like it'd be
little parts of it the stick out and I'm like damn.
But then from from nerves, like I can watch this
show and like cook a dinner or some shit like
that and still be just having my own thoughts you know.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Interesting, I like that you said my old shit inspires me.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Yeah, for sure, my old shit be cringing me.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
I just like you'd be watching your old your old self, Like, damn,
why I say that?
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (06:00):
I mean cause I feel like if you ain't never
say that, you will never say the stuff that you're
saying out of I know it takes growth, but being
that niggam to be always talking about brou like people
don't see all the l's you be taking, like trying
to make something happen before you get to Some niggas
just see the ws. It's like social media and the
nut shit. You know what I'm saying. But I'm like,
fear me, I listen back to all the shit. I'm like,
(06:21):
I wish I didn't put this on the album, and
I'd be just like, damn, that's why I make better albums,
you know, really.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Yeah, like on what project?
Speaker 3 (06:29):
For what? Now?
Speaker 1 (06:30):
I'm curious?
Speaker 3 (06:31):
And then yeah yeah all right, So.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Damn I feel bad even saying this cause somebody probably
gonna love the song. I'm gonna say, all right, this
finna sound really crazy. One song I wish I'd never
put out was Netflix.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
And do say, wow, yah, you're crazy.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
No.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
The only reason I say that is cuz I love
that song, Like I like what I did. I just
like the verse mostly, but like the everything that's about
that song. It's just like, I don't think I'll ever
ever make another song like that, so it feels like
a random thing in my catalogs me.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
But everybody love that song at the concert, so I
have to perform it. You get what I'm saying over it.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
I took it out the set list finally, like after
seven eight years, I took it out.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
The sail list'n have to put it back in. I
took it out the sail list. Some surprised. What you
call it spoiler alert. I'm not gonna hear that.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
For a while. So it's like a reunion.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
Yeah, when I do my bet a hundred years of
bat Awards years, you know they're gonna do the hound
of your bet or get all the black people, the
blackest people.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Damn, it's a fun pocket. That is a fun pocket
for you.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
It is.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
I felt like Jill Scott making that ship. But I'm like,
I'm not Jill Scott, all.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Right, Ain't nothing wrong with Jill Scott.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
I love Jill Scott.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
And in a way you have mad Jill Scott elements.
That was a bad That was a bad I do.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Yeah, you use skits, you use storytelling, and wordplay.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
But I love you Jill Scott. I just gotta showed
me little too.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
I love your Scott, but it's just like I'm just saying, like,
not to say you feel like Joe, It's got to
make it sound like a negative connotation.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
I was saying it like I just.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Felt you only stuck in like a poetry like spoken thing.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
That's why I don't even want to.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Say the song man, because it's you know what I'm saying,
it's like because it don't make sense.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
But I don't know.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
When I listen to the album, I'm like, that's the
one song that kind of like I just be like, damn.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
It's fine, you feel how you feel.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Yeah, there's probably a segment of people out there who
agree with you.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Back, so I'm sure that like fans love that damn
song so much.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
I honestly, I feel like artists should not be allowed
to pick their singles. Pass it, pass it to somebody else,
because y'all always pick the ones, all right, I'm sorry
to put a blanket on it, good, but I feel
like artists always picked a song that's like the most
emotional connected to them instead of like the one that
defenses actually.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Want to hear it.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Mmmm, yeah, I feel that. But I think that's what
make the artists who they are.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
I think it kind of what gives you context on
a person, you know what I'm saying, Like their tendencies
and how they release stuff, yes, and how they like
So I think presenting yourself is as much as artistry
as making the music, you know what I'm saying, How
you present yourself, how you put it out. Okay, Like
Tyler is a great one, do't she's a great one.
Like they present themselves really well. I'm sure, don't you
(09:30):
got songs that's gonna end the world right now? But
she putting out the right raps in the right shit. Yeah,
that's kind of getting you there, you know. And honestly,
if I feel like if Smino was a single artist,
I wouldn't be meet Like, I wouldn't have like the
fan bases of concerts that I have, you know, Okay,
I'm an album artist, like people love my albums, you
(09:51):
know what I'm saying. But hey, I agree though I
do agree because my manager he right here, y'all, just
spoiler alert over here. That's why I keep looking over
I'm looking at my dog.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
But if it was up to him, we.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Probably would have put out ship the whole rollou would
be different every time. I'll just be arguing with you,
like he the only person that'll argue with me though
about my own ship.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
So that's good you besides Manchi.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
But Manchi, we don't we always like right here, we
were locked in?
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Okay, I know Manti's on this produced on this new project.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Maybe in Nirvana. Wait before we actually get into that,
what's your favorite song on here?
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Oh? Maybe in Nirvana?
Speaker 4 (10:32):
It changes, but it's between all right. So I changed
the name of one of the songs. It was called
so but the name of that song is whole nouns now.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Whole nouns Yo.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
I was actually gonna ask about that line, fire ass line.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Okay, where is it at? What is she to me
a pronoun?
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Don't ask me about your girl go down. That's Reggie.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
That's Reggie saying that my hummie Reggie. That's him, that's
him on that part. But what does she pronouns me?
Reggie and Thundercat?
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Disrespectful? I mean, yeah, disrespectful. But it's so man.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
You gotta just let people know that they're not that
important to you. Because they be really like on your heels,
like you like chill well real you know, yeah, that's
what their line is.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Okay, so this is your favorite record on here?
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Pimps, I'm sorry, we're not saying the word pimp no
more so. I changed your name to the Whole now.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Even changed it from pimp to whole. But it's like
I feel like we hole positive, not pin positive. You
know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (11:41):
L O l Lord have mercy. It's too much.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Going on in the world, the world crazy man.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Hole positive, the pimp positive.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Well, we love host.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Yes y'all do, Yes, y'all do.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Okay, so that's your other one, and what's your other favorite?
Speaker 4 (12:00):
The Ready Set Go Cool? Yeah, that one was like, uh,
that was like even to this day, that song is
hard to listen to.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
For me really yeah me the storytelling, Yeah, the.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Shit I was talking about, you know what I'm saying.
You know what I'm saying, By almost having a baby
and like all type of shit that should still be
like hard to even think about. So you know what
I'm saying. That was probably like my I ain't want
my mama to hear that because you know, she don't
even know that.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
But now she do.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
But yeah, so I guess when you did realize that
you and the person you're talking about in the record
are better off apart, how did you go about kind
of like doing the break because it's hard when you
become attached to somebody.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Oh nah, she went through my phone and I was like,
all right, man, I'm about it was a you know
what I mean, it was just on the way though.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
When stuff be on the way, it's like, wow, would
I you know, you ain't fin the cap.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
You just need one reason. Don't give me one.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
Reasons, because I swear to God, you be looking at
them and like, don't.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Do it, you do it. I'm out God. And it
was just that.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
And then you know, if you're in a long term relationship,
it take almost it's half of the amount of years
that you was together to break up with them, because
especially like if y'all I got friends, that's mutual and
all that.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
So I really just moved to LA and fresh start. Yeah.
I feel like that's the best way to do a breakup.
Just move out of town.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Okay, that's that's wow. That's not good advice. Niggas can't
just move out of town because of a breakup.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
I'm just telling you, like I don't know, like if you,
if you, it's just sometimes it's just a fresh start
all the way.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Like you know what I'm saying. You might think like
because it's places.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
You go that remind you of them. Wherever you at
your house reminds you of them. Clothes you were, uh
ship bro, Like you'll be at your favorite spot, like
you will end up taking a girl to the science
spots like that's just like I'm just like, nah, man,
I ain't on that actually, so I made new experiences.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
It's just showing that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Actually, yeah, man, if I could do that, I definitely
would too.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
But you wouldn't. You wouldn't leave here.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
No, I would definitely leave here.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Where would you if you if you went through an
extreme traumatic breakup?
Speaker 3 (14:33):
What city would you go to?
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Not wishing it on you, We're gonna knock on all
this wood and here if you went through it.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
It actually just happened.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
And I actually was telling mat how it's trying to
get rid of my apartment and move.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
So that's why you're saying it. I'm like, a damn
it man, Yeah, it's not it's just doing good.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
It's hard career rise, like I don't want to if
I move, I'm moving out the country at this point,
like I'm sick.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
I don't know. I really liked to Brazil. I really
like Brazil.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
You went to Rio, Oh my god, it was like
New York copa cabana, Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
I love it out there. It's as hot as hell.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Yeah, but I like that too because you can go
to the beach year round. The only thing that's like
a struggle for me, like a hump, would just be
the Portuguese language, like the.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Little French Spanish connection. You will learn it though you're smart.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Put that journal so I don't know, we're not there,
but learn it.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
You're still.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
So let's say you go somewhere else, right, what would
now you're talking with SMI you gotta talk to swim,
So what would you do, like as far as like
the same thing I'm doing here, but like remotely, what
would you cover their scene?
Speaker 1 (15:48):
I would cover their sin.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
That's hard, that's hello hard because they ship, they hard,
They got some they got some swag going out the ballet.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Yes, I like their funk music over there.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
But when I went to Real, I wasn't in like
the black area necessarily, you know, there's like a yeah,
a very dangerous area.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
But the favelas, that's that's what that nigga saint gonna
have me in the favelas. He ain't even show up
shout out. That's my birthday tween the day before me
like literally, but we had a video shoot out there
to this song called Clorine. We made hells Ago and
Bro sent me to Brazil. So I'm in Brazil getting
smoked by mosquitoes and the favelas up in the jungles
(16:28):
and ship eating jackfruit.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Then no, actually the jungles.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
Different, but we go to the favelas I'm talking about
like that shit was like some shit I never seen it.
Like the people run like run the whole hills. It's
no police, all the like business owners and ship like
its ex gangsters and shit like that.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Oh wow, hard Bro, it actually sounds fly.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
It sounded like a community to me. It sounds like, well,
we need right now in this one.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
You know, yeah, I think I think, honestly, we're gonna
have no choice but to go back to that, Like
I think that's on the verge.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Sometimes.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Sh it just got a crash and burn and now
we're just watching the car crash.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Yeah, No, I'm for real. Yeah, I would advise everybody
to just scrap up. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Also my concern though with it is just like will
niggas learn, Like it's not like this would be our
first time in this predicament. That's why I'm like, I'm
moving to real because I don't got time to say
to you niggas.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Yeah, be like that, bro, be like that. Sometimes you
just be like damn. But at the same time, it's like,
then you got your family, you'd be like, damn my folks.
I gotta make sure my folks straight. That'd be my
one thing that'd be having me like I can't leave
the country because I want to move to London Hella
bed so bad.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
I can. But it's just like that.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Pound diff is crazy. That's the only reason I'm not expensive.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Yeah, for sure. But I mean you will get more money.
Just go get more money.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
That's how I look at shit, Like, just charge more
like you. You someone who's like already like you. Not
you know what I'm saying, So go out there and tell.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Them motherfucking knowledge this in this country.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Mm hm, You're not lay in your body, so wherever
you will you BBC, I run that shit period on me.
I know girls they work over there at BBC many
I'm sure they be all over the world.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
I'd be like, damn, that's what's up.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
I definitely want to get in with BBC on a game.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
But okay, I want to talk about. Oh I feel
like you kind of sound conflicted on this project between
Maybe and Nirvana and missus Joyce. No, no, no, it wasn't.
I'm sorry, ready said Goku and Maybe in Nirvana because
(18:43):
ones like I'm out of here, and then the other
ones like damn, she really left, Like yeah, are you
like Martin in your relationships?
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Like oh, get the step in, get the step in.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
I'm a leaverer.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
So sometimes like sometimes I just don't like you right now,
But they don't mean I don't like you tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Yeh nah, I hate niggas.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Oh god, they don't mean I don't like you like
in a hour. I just don't like you right now.
I'm gonna like you like in a hour with you.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
But sometimes though, for real, I promise you, shit ain't
never that deep until like motherfuckers just keep doing something
like you. It's like, all right, why are we still
here now? It's like, all right, this is gonna be
a habit. I can't deal with those type of habits,
cause confrontation is very much so like entertaining. If you
let it be, like if you used to arguing it
with somebody, it'll start feeling like your way of communicating
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or your way of showing that you carry all your
way of showing that I'm present.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
So I just start like.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
Evading those situations and be like, man, look, I just
don't fuck with you right now, and then I'll come
back when I feel good.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
You say that, or you just disappear.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
I'll just be like, no, I need some space. I
can't fuck with you right now. I be super blatant,
like I'm super bowld, I'm super super honest.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
But I'm good now. I love my short she she tight,
I little mom.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
Yeah, you guys are really one, my one right now, yes,
my one forever hopefully good.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
I love it. I like miss Joyce.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
You say, some days I want to be like Jesus
other days of Jesu.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
That's a good bar.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
Someday one of these like Jesus other days on Jesu. Yeah, yeah,
that's just yeah, that's just me.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
That's just my plight.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
That's me, Like, yeah, real talk, because I feel like
I'm also asked me.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Know a lot of people think that I'm like uh
a lot. Uh what's the world more deep and ship
than I am?
Speaker 4 (20:38):
Like I'm like always just burning candles and shit, Like
I promise you people think that about me all the time.
And then I'm like, I actually be turrent. I'd be
pretty turrn, Like I'm actually probably the most turned out
of my friend group for real.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Why not of the shape butter Babies, like being the
shape butter Babies.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
I'm not no shap but baby.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
You're a part the shape butter baby community.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
I'm just brown skin.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
No, no, it's not about being brown skin. It's just
about who your music.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Oh, y'all can't help it. So it's like that's why
I put out new art.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
So it's funny thing I put out black Swan and
niggas thought I was Martin Luther King and I'm like, dang,
I'm not Martin Luther King. I love Martin Luther King,
and I might I put out new work because I
was just like.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
I mean, but even as as nor is, it's still
like a it's like a classy.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
Turn I'm too fucking grown to teach you how to ridelas.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
No, no it is, it's the production is.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Smooth for real, No it is.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
I mean that's that's my Ti Booker element though too,
you know. But I'm from Saint Louis.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
I don't know, I don't know. I just it's the
Saint Lewis and me.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
I'm very very very very ratch like extremely ratchy. But
I'm also I'm just I think I do a good
job of like conducting myself. Well, my mama always told me, like,
don't don't let people see all yo be and is
and what you'd like to do, and you know, just
present yourself like how you you know, want to be
respected or approached. So I think that's where they're come from.
(22:08):
But yeah, I don't. I'm gonna shave but the baby.
That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
I never called myself there like.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Well, I like when I say that, I just feel
like you would be on the playlist shade butter baby,
if they have one it's called brown sugar, You're definitely
on that place for ye, Like it's uh.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Do you think DiAngelo was calm in real life? Yes?
Speaker 2 (22:32):
I have no idea, nor do I give a but the'
Angelo turn.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
I promise you d' Angelo is a turn individual. I
don't know.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
I've never made cuz I never even heard the stories.
I just can imagine.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
But nobody. We're not mad at you.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Stevie wanted that nigga probably be turned.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
We're not mad if these people are turned. I hope
you guys are turned. I think everybody has nuanced. Everybody
has both.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Look, yeah, look that academy. What's the word.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Yeah, everybody has do I everybody.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Got that's a better word of duality.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
But like, I don't know, I just I want the
shave butter babies to love being shavee.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
But the babies because we love.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
Just the thing about it. Though, So what you expect
me to do? We put like, so I'm supposed to
be in here.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
No you don't. You don't got to do nothing.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
But be you.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
You got to do that. You're a black man from
Saint Louis. You can't help but be that.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Yeah, I like that quote. That's tight. I'm fulfilling it.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
No for real though, So it's like it's it's it's it's.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Really in you.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
So whether you want to show your turn side or
you want to show your MLK.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
Side or I see, Like that's the thing though. See
that's the part of artistry too. That's like a challenge
because it's like this nigga, no I made so much,
I got so much music with honorable c or like
Chase the money that I love, shit.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Turned shit far.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
I would love to hear you know what I'm.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Saying, super crazy, but figuring out how to release that
knowing that my fans expect certain shit or like I
got a certain fan base.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Think you overthinking it? I think you would see no collab.
People going to be like, oh, they already know it
to expect based off the producer. So niggas is just
going one of two niggas to hear what you sound
like working with him.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
That's that's like, don't overthink it, just drop.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
It, all right man, all.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Bro, I hearing you out.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Bro Yo, I'm totally down. I'm a fan. You already
know this man for real?
Speaker 3 (24:22):
All right.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
So let's talk about Christmas.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
This year, Cribmas. So this year, Cribmans, We're gonna take
a beat this year.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
And because I'm working on this festival it's called Country Cousins,
and it's not a cool festival in Saint Louis.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Like cool, Like what it is? It is.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
It's a cool one, but I don't it's not one
bringing people into St.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Louis.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Like, yeah, it's not. It's not not a big one.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
But so you're curating that helping, Yeah, I'm curating that.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
I definitely am helping because I need all the help
I can get with that.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
That' should a big job.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
But country.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
So yeah, So this year, we're gonna do a bunch
of things just for a straight weekend, straight Like everything's
gonna be free for people, Like we're gonna have probably
a movie theater open, probably have a couple of courses
available for people to just take some stuff. Because I
ultimately cribmss uh. I wanted to be an art school,
you know what I'm saying. I think I told you
(25:16):
this before. Maybe Yeah, I'm still working on there being
an art school. So I'm trying to stray away from
the December concert really turning into something that like can
be forever.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Yeah, like at least stupid school year.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
You know that's smart cause all my fans be so far,
they're so creative, Like they pull up to the show
with the best art I get the best fan art
best period hands. I would love I would love to
have a fan of art competition with any of you artists. Niggas,
My fans is the most creative niggas on Earth, bro,
I promise you.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
So when they meet each other at the show, I
be seeing what happens. I be seeing the shit combust.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
I'm like, damn if y'all niggas can stay meeting each other,
can stay connected with each other.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
That's you know, is it specifically in St. Louis or
is it y St.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Louis?
Speaker 4 (25:57):
I mean all over, Like everywhere I go I get crazy,
or but when I'm at home, I be just so
proud of it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
I'm like, alright, bro, god, yeah, so that's the stuff.
So it's going to turn to a year round situation.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Yeah, run that run the government money Jones.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Oh my god, Yeah, I hope you get it.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
But Country Cousins, what name you came up with? That name?
Did you really?
Speaker 3 (26:29):
With two k's sound like some ship.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
I'm a fan of the word play.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Thanks, But all right.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
We play a game called Questions that Need Answers. All
you gotta do is feell in the blank, the older
I get the less side.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
You would never believe me if I told you.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
I drank some tequila this morning.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
No, I had why because I was sleepy. That wakes
you up.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
It made me her I shouldn't have did it.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Yeah, that was that.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
It was in my room. I'm like, hmmm, take a shot.
Took a shot.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
All right, I won't judge. Okay, I just made sure
you weren't nervous. This is a very safe So.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
I'm just saying the first air to gome to my mind.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Uh, if you could tell your eighteen year old self
three things, what would it be?
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Leave her?
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Yo?
Speaker 3 (27:26):
H start growing your hair right now. M uh, good job.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
All right, those are good. Sometimes I look back at
my life.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
And be like, damn, damn sh at you.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Yeah that's good. That's a little gifting moment. Got chat that.
Uh my personality trait is.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Flash heel high's here? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Oh man, Nah, you're hilarious.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
And this is the last one. I always forget what
the hell is it? Uh? You never believe me if
I told you what the fuck is it? Just let
it go? Yeah, all right, fuck it? And then okay,
(28:42):
that was actually interesting With the last one.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Yeah, it's a fun guy. We get to I like
this made back music. Oh god?
Speaker 2 (28:53):
What is what is a certified sleeper that people are
sleeping on? It can be one of yours or it
could be just like a record in general?
Speaker 3 (29:00):
All you talking about music? I was finna say so alright,
then what you about to say?
Speaker 1 (29:04):
A movie?
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Nah? A certified sleeper?
Speaker 2 (29:07):
No?
Speaker 1 (29:07):
I wanna know what you're gonna say. I feel like
that's gonna be more entertaining.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Oh my god, well you like this?
Speaker 1 (29:18):
That's you to you?
Speaker 4 (29:20):
Oh uh yeah, probably, but I'm talking to you because
you Oh my god, come on, I'm not gonna say that.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Nah, it's wild. That's wild. Oh, certified sleeper. H marc
O Plus from Atlanta, the Soulas album, it's this tomato.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Yeah alright, bro when they thought tomatoes may ketch up?
Speaker 3 (29:38):
I don't give a fucked Oh god, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
But Marko Plush Soless, that's the album that's a la
c Is that the how you say that?
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Solis?
Speaker 1 (29:46):
I don't know you heard of Marco Plus is fire?
Speaker 4 (29:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Well that boy hard? Marco?
Speaker 4 (29:50):
You hard boy on me. I told him, like by
you hard. So hopefully we can make a song. So
I think we actually made a song at the uh
second Dreamville camp.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Oh fire.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Yeah, okay, Damn, you make so much music you don't
even remember it.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
I promise you now, for real, for real, it's terrible.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Like that's why you got a A and off for me.
I got too much music and entitled hey sad to me.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
I get feedback you as you know.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Nah, I ain't gonna stunt. I will say.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
I sent all on my album and got the most
constructive criticism I've ever a adver gotten in my life
about my music, like that our character look at because
you know, my fans say shit to me all the time, right,
but I look at some stuff. But like if somebody
like I wish you would have brought this part of
the song again earlier, I'd be like, that's cool. But
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your criticism was very like, I'm like, damn, it's thorough.
You really bumped that shit.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
That's what's up. Man.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
I appreciated that, of course, and you said it right
before a flight, so I was just sitting with it
like that was perfect.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Yeah, it was just random. I'm like, I'm fin the
send this denihalar noah no I got you.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Yeah, please do y'all hear that I got a new
job to A and R Come on, guy. But all right,
so outside of the project the festival, what else can
we expect from twenty twenty five?
Speaker 3 (31:08):
I just recently decided.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
And I know this finna sound really like whatever, but
I'm I'm I'm I'm definitely like the fresh I'm finna
be the freshest nigga on earth. That's that was my
I'm like my whole I'm like, all right, bro, twenty
twenty five, I'm best dressed period. Yeah, okay, I literally
I like getting dressed.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
But now I'm like, I'm on that.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
So what's the what's the difference between what you've been
doing before?
Speaker 4 (31:40):
It's like, uh, what I do like right now, Like
how I dress is just like style. I just I
just I'm cozy. I'm gonna go uncozy, but cozy it's
still gonna look like me.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
He said, I'm going und button up.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Oh dang.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
But I mean maybe you remember I can't tell you
what the hell then they're gonna know.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
But it's it's it's yeah type shit, yeah type ship.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
And then twenty twenty five, I'm a lot of music.
Uh headlines, no tour, yeah, first one since twenty yeah,
I mean yeah, I'm saying first just solo heads I'm sorry,
first solo where's my head at?
Speaker 3 (32:20):
First solo headline tour since twenty nineteen? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (32:23):
So is that since nor m hoopy it we called
it the Hoopy tour.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Now.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
I went to that one. That was actually my introduction
to you.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Word yeah, work, you went to a silver spring.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
No, I went to the Urban Plaza, I think.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
And she was crazy, the band, the singers. You was
literally orchestrating this ship. I'm like, who is this, nigga?
This ship is fly.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
It's a little church baby, man, little church baby. That's
how that church baby.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
I think you had to lean with a rock with
a competition. I'm like, this is there's too many elements
going on, right.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Man, going up? Yeah, it was just it just felt.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Like felt like a party. Yeah, I felt like a party.
All right.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
I'm excited for that tour. Okay, tour music, I guess
that's everything. Well, I'm excited. I'm a fan. Thank you
for coming. Always shout out to your grand Let everybody
know where they could follow you if they don't already.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Oh yeah, ask me, no, you know, that's.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
It just I forgot to ask, well, one's a statement,
and then them follow up with a question when you
fake cut your hair shambles.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Actually was crazy.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Why did you do that?
Speaker 4 (33:36):
I just had a pony tail. I'm like, why, y'all
don't know what this a pony you sold? You know
how you have like the like new girl in front
of your ship.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Well, I don't know. I get lining. So I just
thought it was funny.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
When I get fed niggas was you gotta understand? I
was just like the whole rat beef between Dot and Drake.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
My name.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
I'm just trending the whole time because Nigga. Anytime Drake
do anything like people like, are you.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Trying to look like that?
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Nigga ain't trying to look I ain't never did none
of them hairstyles he got he I ain't seen him
do one hairstyle I got. If anything he like it
swagged like Tupac above the realm? What that's how you
dressing them big clothes and shit like that. That's how
probably used to d I don't think it's.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
More so about the outfits. I think it's more of
the hair.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
I ain't never had them.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
We never had them clips.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
I ain't never wear them.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
You ain't never had the clips. But you you, you
do pigtails. You do pigtails.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
It was only one thing I could see that I'm like, okay,
that's valid, but it's just like even still. But I mean,
shout out to the culture, shout out to my peoples
and my fans wanted to just had me apart, but
I'm like, god damn, I don't want to be training, bro,
I just want to listen to the music and be
a fan, like, yeah, bro, please, so I play cut
my hurt though. That probably why that happened, though, I
faink cut my heir because niggas kept doing that shit.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
That's why I did it, Okay, but.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
I also did kind of cut a little bit of
my hair, but I didn't really cut.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
My he off as you can see.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Yeah, no, it's here. It's here that should hit the
group chat like he caught it.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
That ship is crazy, bro, That shit is funny as hell.
But shout out to black women for wanting to protect
my scalp.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
Yes, yes, take my scout man for real.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
I got I gotta find me a one of them.
Her car scientists ladies. So if any of y'all watching this,
I'm looking for her car scientists to help me make
my smee j at Walker.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Oh the Lord, that was clever.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
That was clever.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Appreciate it all right, Got until next time, Talk soon,
Peace
Speaker 3 (35:33):
H
What's up guy?
Speaker 2 (00:00):
And I Listenmone here and I just finished interviewing Smino.
Not those who know me know I'm a huge, huge
Smino fan, and his new project Maybe in Nirvana just dropped.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
I want to hear from you guys. Let me know
how y'all feel about the project.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Here's a three big takeaways that I learned after our interview. One,
Smino said if he could, he wish he never would
have put out Netflix and Duce, which I think is crazy.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
One song I wish I never put out was Netflix
and du.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Wow, Yo, you're crazy? You think this does not drop
a nut emotion in the chat.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Number two is the record and pronouns was originally called
Pimp Soda, but Smino said this year we're being positive,
not pimp positive.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
I feel like we're positive, not pin positive.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
I don't even really know what that means, but it
sounds positive to me.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
And then number three Smino's advice for getting over a breakup.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
It just moved to a new city, which I'm honestly.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Not mad at even to this day. That song is
hard to listen to for me almost having a baby.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
I feel like that's the best way to do a breakup.
Just move out of town.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Too bad, I can't anyway, Let's get to the interview.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
What's good your boy Smino and my new project maybe
in Nirvana Edge out right?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Nah, what's up now? We need to talk now.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
I want to talk about the music, cause I.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
I sent her the album like also you like, I
literally like the only like.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Person that's in your world that I sent it to.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
I sent it to a couple of homies and made music,
a couple that don't make music.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
And then you what did they say?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
They it?
Speaker 4 (01:29):
What's crazy is everybody gave me very detailed feedback. I
feel like they thought I wanted that shit, Like I
really just want a niggas to I really don't person.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
You didn't give no context either, you just sent it.
That's why I was like, I hope you're open to feedback.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Yeah, nah, well see with me, Like it's no, it's
no point of getting feedback from music, Like it's no point.
All that matters is niggas like it yes or no?
Cause like at that point, I'm already the maid. You know,
fifty more things and shit, I understood the feedback is
like if I want to if I'm trying to make
like a good drink and I need to know how
do you think it's taste?
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Like if I had as, I have no recipe, I'll
just be flying through life.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
So if this is the R or are you announcing
that it was the original Love for Rent or not?
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Uh, I'm basically telling everybody that it's the album I
made before I made Love for Rent. But cause I
I what's crazy about it? Yes, it was called Love
Rent for sure.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
It was even a song called Love for Rent on it.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Yeah, we hear it.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
But I changed that song to maybe in Neirvana cause
I said maybe in Nirvana on that song. But yeah,
it's just more songs from time Stamp shit than anything.
It ain't like I was trying to Uh, I don't know.
I'm not trying to make niggas, no nothing. It's just
noose to Meino music, you know. And it's from an
era of my life where I'm like, Nigga, this shit
gotta come out, cause if I don't put this out,
(02:53):
then I feel weird putting.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Out the next shit. You know. It's like it was
just burning me.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
So the chapter that you like, nah, this needs.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
To be put this out. Yeah, it was just whole
just a whole lot of lot going on.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Well, since you were holding it and I know you've
been doing more music, does that mean like next year
you're flooding bad?
Speaker 4 (03:12):
So, man, Yeah, I tweeted some shit like three hours
of twenty twenty four. It's nigga, my manage to pump
my brakes.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
It's all good though.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
We did new deals, new business and shit like that,
So now it makes sense to do that top of
the year before I go on on the road.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Are you still technically ind Yeah?
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Yeah, I'm doing destroy right now with some with some
good folks. But I'm an independent artist.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Now.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Good for you man, you've Yeah, you're like one of
the heads.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
I feel like head leaders and independent artists that actually
like cultivated a successful fan base.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
That's hard. That's the tightest, you don't think. So yeah,
I mean I think I got a great fan base.
I I agree for sure. I agree.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
I really you know what's crazy. I never really look
at like everybody else.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
That's my problem. Probably maybe I should start looking at everybody.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
I never really looked at the field that I mean,
I just be like seeing how far I can go,
like and all the shit that I made.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Like I was telling my shorty, I'm.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Like, cause she was like you listening to yourself a lot,
I'm like, well, shit, i'd be inspiring myself, like my
old shit is so inspiring to.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Me because I'd be just like what was that nigga?
Thinking like what.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
What I eat that day? Like what I smoked that day?
Cause it'd be some stuff I just never can do again.
Once I did it, it's enough, I've done it.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
But like with some.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Old stuff you'd be listening to, like Damn, I was
really in a bag.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Black Swan. It was a song.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
I was like, I'm from the louse. What I'm saying,
I'm from the loup, give me the lou all my
niggas to shoot packs. When the food she feeling my
juice and feeling the tube, I was like, damn, I
would never like not Well, nowadays, I've been rapping crazy
like that on my newer shit, but like I think
that I don't know the pocket I was in. I
was like, that was the last time I think. While
(04:54):
I was putting on music, I was like, I'm trying
to be the rap goat and then I start being
I start realizing that people was flocking up like wild,
I was Roses and like Netflix and do say, and
I'm like, damn, I ain't even realized I was that
good at that I had just found my singing voice
in a in a certain sense like I was I
was singing since probably like twenty fifteen, but like I
had just found my singing voice.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Shit.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
So yeah, it's funny because as much as I love rap,
when it comes to like what I actually replay, the
most of my playlist is definitely more melodic.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Yeah, I mean it lends itself to this though you
don't have to listen to it. It's like a it's
like a good a good show that ain't too deep,
like Avid Elementary. That's like Avid Elementary is like melodic music.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
To me.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
I love watching that show cause it's like it'd be
little parts of it the stick out and I'm like damn.
But then from from nerves, like I can watch this
show and like cook a dinner or some shit like
that and still be just having my own thoughts you know.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Interesting, I like that you said my old shit inspires me.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Yeah, for sure, my old shit be cringing me.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
I just like you'd be watching your old your old self, Like, damn,
why I say that?
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (06:00):
I mean cause I feel like if you ain't never
say that, you will never say the stuff that you're
saying out of I know it takes growth, but being
that niggam to be always talking about brou like people
don't see all the l's you be taking, like trying
to make something happen before you get to Some niggas
just see the ws. It's like social media and the
nut shit. You know what I'm saying. But I'm like,
fear me, I listen back to all the shit. I'm like,
(06:21):
I wish I didn't put this on the album, and
I'd be just like, damn, that's why I make better albums,
you know, really.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Yeah, like on what project?
Speaker 3 (06:29):
For what? Now?
Speaker 1 (06:30):
I'm curious?
Speaker 3 (06:31):
And then yeah yeah all right, So.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Damn I feel bad even saying this cause somebody probably
gonna love the song. I'm gonna say, all right, this
finna sound really crazy. One song I wish I'd never
put out was Netflix.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
And do say, wow, yah, you're crazy.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
No.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
The only reason I say that is cuz I love
that song, Like I like what I did. I just
like the verse mostly, but like the everything that's about
that song. It's just like, I don't think I'll ever
ever make another song like that, so it feels like
a random thing in my catalogs me.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
But everybody love that song at the concert, so I
have to perform it. You get what I'm saying over it.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
I took it out the set list finally, like after
seven eight years, I took it out.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
The sail list'n have to put it back in. I
took it out the sail list. Some surprised. What you
call it spoiler alert. I'm not gonna hear that.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
For a while. So it's like a reunion.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
Yeah, when I do my bet a hundred years of
bat Awards years, you know they're gonna do the hound
of your bet or get all the black people, the
blackest people.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Damn, it's a fun pocket. That is a fun pocket
for you.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
It is.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
I felt like Jill Scott making that ship. But I'm like,
I'm not Jill Scott, all.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Right, Ain't nothing wrong with Jill Scott.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
I love Jill Scott.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
And in a way you have mad Jill Scott elements.
That was a bad That was a bad I do.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Yeah, you use skits, you use storytelling, and wordplay.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
But I love you Jill Scott. I just gotta showed
me little too.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
I love your Scott, but it's just like I'm just saying, like,
not to say you feel like Joe, It's got to
make it sound like a negative connotation.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
I was saying it like I just.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Felt you only stuck in like a poetry like spoken thing.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
That's why I don't even want to.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Say the song man, because it's you know what I'm saying,
it's like because it don't make sense.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
But I don't know.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
When I listen to the album, I'm like, that's the
one song that kind of like I just be like, damn.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
It's fine, you feel how you feel.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Yeah, there's probably a segment of people out there who
agree with you.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Back, so I'm sure that like fans love that damn
song so much.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
I honestly, I feel like artists should not be allowed
to pick their singles. Pass it, pass it to somebody else,
because y'all always pick the ones, all right, I'm sorry
to put a blanket on it, good, but I feel
like artists always picked a song that's like the most
emotional connected to them instead of like the one that
defenses actually.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Want to hear it.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Mmmm, yeah, I feel that. But I think that's what
make the artists who they are.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
I think it kind of what gives you context on
a person, you know what I'm saying, Like their tendencies
and how they release stuff, yes, and how they like
So I think presenting yourself is as much as artistry
as making the music, you know what I'm saying, How
you present yourself, how you put it out. Okay, Like
Tyler is a great one, do't she's a great one.
Like they present themselves really well. I'm sure, don't you
(09:30):
got songs that's gonna end the world right now? But
she putting out the right raps in the right shit. Yeah,
that's kind of getting you there, you know. And honestly,
if I feel like if Smino was a single artist,
I wouldn't be meet Like, I wouldn't have like the
fan bases of concerts that I have, you know, Okay,
I'm an album artist, like people love my albums, you
(09:51):
know what I'm saying. But hey, I agree though I
do agree because my manager he right here, y'all, just
spoiler alert over here. That's why I keep looking over
I'm looking at my dog.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
But if it was up to him, we.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Probably would have put out ship the whole rollou would
be different every time. I'll just be arguing with you,
like he the only person that'll argue with me though
about my own ship.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
So that's good you besides Manchi.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
But Manchi, we don't we always like right here, we
were locked in?
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Okay, I know Manti's on this produced on this new project.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Maybe in Nirvana. Wait before we actually get into that,
what's your favorite song on here?
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Oh? Maybe in Nirvana?
Speaker 4 (10:32):
It changes, but it's between all right. So I changed
the name of one of the songs. It was called
so but the name of that song is whole nouns now.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Whole nouns Yo.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
I was actually gonna ask about that line, fire ass line.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Okay, where is it at? What is she to me
a pronoun?
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Don't ask me about your girl go down. That's Reggie.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
That's Reggie saying that my hummie Reggie. That's him, that's
him on that part. But what does she pronouns me?
Reggie and Thundercat?
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Disrespectful? I mean, yeah, disrespectful. But it's so man.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
You gotta just let people know that they're not that
important to you. Because they be really like on your heels,
like you like chill well real you know, yeah, that's
what their line is.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Okay, so this is your favorite record on here?
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Pimps, I'm sorry, we're not saying the word pimp no
more so. I changed your name to the Whole now.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Even changed it from pimp to whole. But it's like
I feel like we hole positive, not pin positive. You
know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (11:41):
L O l Lord have mercy. It's too much.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Going on in the world, the world crazy man.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Hole positive, the pimp positive.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Well, we love host.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Yes y'all do, Yes, y'all do.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Okay, so that's your other one, and what's your other favorite?
Speaker 4 (12:00):
The Ready Set Go Cool? Yeah, that one was like, uh,
that was like even to this day, that song is
hard to listen to.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
For me really yeah me the storytelling, Yeah, the.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Shit I was talking about, you know what I'm saying.
You know what I'm saying, By almost having a baby
and like all type of shit that should still be
like hard to even think about. So you know what
I'm saying. That was probably like my I ain't want
my mama to hear that because you know, she don't
even know that.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
But now she do.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
But yeah, so I guess when you did realize that
you and the person you're talking about in the record
are better off apart, how did you go about kind
of like doing the break because it's hard when you
become attached to somebody.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Oh nah, she went through my phone and I was like,
all right, man, I'm about it was a you know
what I mean, it was just on the way though.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
When stuff be on the way, it's like, wow, would
I you know, you ain't fin the cap.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
You just need one reason. Don't give me one.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
Reasons, because I swear to God, you be looking at
them and like, don't.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Do it, you do it. I'm out God. And it
was just that.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
And then you know, if you're in a long term relationship,
it take almost it's half of the amount of years
that you was together to break up with them, because
especially like if y'all I got friends, that's mutual and
all that.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
So I really just moved to LA and fresh start. Yeah.
I feel like that's the best way to do a breakup.
Just move out of town.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Okay, that's that's wow. That's not good advice. Niggas can't
just move out of town because of a breakup.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
I'm just telling you, like I don't know, like if you,
if you, it's just sometimes it's just a fresh start
all the way.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Like you know what I'm saying. You might think like
because it's places.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
You go that remind you of them. Wherever you at
your house reminds you of them. Clothes you were, uh
ship bro, Like you'll be at your favorite spot, like
you will end up taking a girl to the science
spots like that's just like I'm just like, nah, man,
I ain't on that actually, so I made new experiences.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
It's just showing that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Actually, yeah, man, if I could do that, I definitely
would too.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
But you wouldn't. You wouldn't leave here.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
No, I would definitely leave here.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Where would you if you if you went through an
extreme traumatic breakup?
Speaker 3 (14:33):
What city would you go to?
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Not wishing it on you, We're gonna knock on all
this wood and here if you went through it.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
It actually just happened.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
And I actually was telling mat how it's trying to
get rid of my apartment and move.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
So that's why you're saying it. I'm like, a damn
it man, Yeah, it's not it's just doing good.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
It's hard career rise, like I don't want to if
I move, I'm moving out the country at this point,
like I'm sick.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
I don't know. I really liked to Brazil. I really
like Brazil.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
You went to Rio, Oh my god, it was like
New York copa cabana, Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
I love it out there. It's as hot as hell.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Yeah, but I like that too because you can go
to the beach year round. The only thing that's like
a struggle for me, like a hump, would just be
the Portuguese language, like the.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Little French Spanish connection. You will learn it though you're smart.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Put that journal so I don't know, we're not there,
but learn it.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
You're still.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
So let's say you go somewhere else, right, what would
now you're talking with SMI you gotta talk to swim,
So what would you do, like as far as like
the same thing I'm doing here, but like remotely, what
would you cover their scene?
Speaker 1 (15:48):
I would cover their sin.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
That's hard, that's hello hard because they ship, they hard,
They got some they got some swag going out the ballet.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Yes, I like their funk music over there.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
But when I went to Real, I wasn't in like
the black area necessarily, you know, there's like a yeah,
a very dangerous area.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
But the favelas, that's that's what that nigga saint gonna
have me in the favelas. He ain't even show up
shout out. That's my birthday tween the day before me
like literally, but we had a video shoot out there
to this song called Clorine. We made hells Ago and
Bro sent me to Brazil. So I'm in Brazil getting
smoked by mosquitoes and the favelas up in the jungles
(16:28):
and ship eating jackfruit.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Then no, actually the jungles.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
Different, but we go to the favelas I'm talking about
like that shit was like some shit I never seen it.
Like the people run like run the whole hills. It's
no police, all the like business owners and ship like
its ex gangsters and shit like that.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Oh wow, hard Bro, it actually sounds fly.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
It sounded like a community to me. It sounds like, well,
we need right now in this one.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
You know, yeah, I think I think, honestly, we're gonna
have no choice but to go back to that, Like
I think that's on the verge.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Sometimes.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Sh it just got a crash and burn and now
we're just watching the car crash.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Yeah, No, I'm for real. Yeah, I would advise everybody
to just scrap up. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Also my concern though with it is just like will
niggas learn, Like it's not like this would be our
first time in this predicament. That's why I'm like, I'm
moving to real because I don't got time to say
to you niggas.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Yeah, be like that, bro, be like that. Sometimes you
just be like damn. But at the same time, it's like,
then you got your family, you'd be like, damn my folks.
I gotta make sure my folks straight. That'd be my
one thing that'd be having me like I can't leave
the country because I want to move to London Hella
bed so bad.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
I can. But it's just like that.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Pound diff is crazy. That's the only reason I'm not expensive.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Yeah, for sure. But I mean you will get more money.
Just go get more money.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
That's how I look at shit, Like, just charge more
like you. You someone who's like already like you. Not
you know what I'm saying, So go out there and tell.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Them motherfucking knowledge this in this country.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Mm hm, You're not lay in your body, so wherever
you will you BBC, I run that shit period on me.
I know girls they work over there at BBC many
I'm sure they be all over the world.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
I'd be like, damn, that's what's up.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
I definitely want to get in with BBC on a game.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
But okay, I want to talk about. Oh I feel
like you kind of sound conflicted on this project between
Maybe and Nirvana and missus Joyce. No, no, no, it wasn't.
I'm sorry, ready said Goku and Maybe in Nirvana because
(18:43):
ones like I'm out of here, and then the other
ones like damn, she really left, Like yeah, are you
like Martin in your relationships?
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Like oh, get the step in, get the step in.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
I'm a leaverer.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
So sometimes like sometimes I just don't like you right now,
But they don't mean I don't like you tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Yeh nah, I hate niggas.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Oh god, they don't mean I don't like you like
in a hour. I just don't like you right now.
I'm gonna like you like in a hour with you.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
But sometimes though, for real, I promise you, shit ain't
never that deep until like motherfuckers just keep doing something
like you. It's like, all right, why are we still
here now? It's like, all right, this is gonna be
a habit. I can't deal with those type of habits,
cause confrontation is very much so like entertaining. If you
let it be, like if you used to arguing it
with somebody, it'll start feeling like your way of communicating
(19:36):
or your way of showing that you carry all your
way of showing that I'm present.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
So I just start like.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
Evading those situations and be like, man, look, I just
don't fuck with you right now, and then I'll come
back when I feel good.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
You say that, or you just disappear.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
I'll just be like, no, I need some space. I
can't fuck with you right now. I be super blatant,
like I'm super bowld, I'm super super honest.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
But I'm good now. I love my short she she tight,
I little mom.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
Yeah, you guys are really one, my one right now, yes,
my one forever hopefully good.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
I love it. I like miss Joyce.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
You say, some days I want to be like Jesus
other days of Jesu.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
That's a good bar.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
Someday one of these like Jesus other days on Jesu. Yeah, yeah,
that's just yeah, that's just me.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
That's just my plight.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
That's me, Like, yeah, real talk, because I feel like
I'm also asked me.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Know a lot of people think that I'm like uh
a lot. Uh what's the world more deep and ship
than I am?
Speaker 4 (20:38):
Like I'm like always just burning candles and shit, Like
I promise you people think that about me all the time.
And then I'm like, I actually be turrent. I'd be
pretty turrn, Like I'm actually probably the most turned out
of my friend group for real.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Why not of the shape butter Babies, like being the
shape butter Babies.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
I'm not no shap but baby.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
You're a part the shape butter baby community.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
I'm just brown skin.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
No, no, it's not about being brown skin. It's just
about who your music.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Oh, y'all can't help it. So it's like that's why
I put out new art.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
So it's funny thing I put out black Swan and
niggas thought I was Martin Luther King and I'm like, dang,
I'm not Martin Luther King. I love Martin Luther King,
and I might I put out new work because I
was just like.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
I mean, but even as as nor is, it's still
like a it's like a classy.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
Turn I'm too fucking grown to teach you how to ridelas.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
No, no it is, it's the production is.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Smooth for real, No it is.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
I mean that's that's my Ti Booker element though too,
you know. But I'm from Saint Louis.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
I don't know, I don't know. I just it's the
Saint Lewis and me.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
I'm very very very very ratch like extremely ratchy. But
I'm also I'm just I think I do a good
job of like conducting myself. Well, my mama always told me, like,
don't don't let people see all yo be and is
and what you'd like to do, and you know, just
present yourself like how you you know, want to be
respected or approached. So I think that's where they're come from.
(22:08):
But yeah, I don't. I'm gonna shave but the baby.
That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
I never called myself there like.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Well, I like when I say that, I just feel
like you would be on the playlist shade butter baby,
if they have one it's called brown sugar, You're definitely
on that place for ye, Like it's uh.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Do you think DiAngelo was calm in real life? Yes?
Speaker 2 (22:32):
I have no idea, nor do I give a but the'
Angelo turn.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
I promise you d' Angelo is a turn individual. I
don't know.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
I've never made cuz I never even heard the stories.
I just can imagine.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
But nobody. We're not mad at you.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Stevie wanted that nigga probably be turned.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
We're not mad if these people are turned. I hope
you guys are turned. I think everybody has nuanced. Everybody
has both.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Look, yeah, look that academy. What's the word.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Yeah, everybody has do I everybody.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Got that's a better word of duality.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
But like, I don't know, I just I want the
shave butter babies to love being shavee.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
But the babies because we love.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
Just the thing about it. Though, So what you expect
me to do? We put like, so I'm supposed to
be in here.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
No you don't. You don't got to do nothing.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
But be you.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
You got to do that. You're a black man from
Saint Louis. You can't help but be that.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Yeah, I like that quote. That's tight. I'm fulfilling it.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
No for real though, So it's like it's it's it's it's.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Really in you.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
So whether you want to show your turn side or
you want to show your MLK.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
Side or I see, Like that's the thing though. See
that's the part of artistry too. That's like a challenge
because it's like this nigga, no I made so much,
I got so much music with honorable c or like
Chase the money that I love, shit.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Turned shit far.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
I would love to hear you know what I'm.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Saying, super crazy, but figuring out how to release that
knowing that my fans expect certain shit or like I
got a certain fan base.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Think you overthinking it? I think you would see no collab.
People going to be like, oh, they already know it
to expect based off the producer. So niggas is just
going one of two niggas to hear what you sound
like working with him.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
That's that's like, don't overthink it, just drop.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
It, all right man, all.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Bro, I hearing you out.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Bro Yo, I'm totally down. I'm a fan. You already
know this man for real?
Speaker 3 (24:22):
All right.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
So let's talk about Christmas.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
This year, Cribmas. So this year, Cribmans, We're gonna take
a beat this year.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
And because I'm working on this festival it's called Country Cousins,
and it's not a cool festival in Saint Louis.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Like cool, Like what it is? It is.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
It's a cool one, but I don't it's not one
bringing people into St.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Louis.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Like, yeah, it's not. It's not not a big one.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
But so you're curating that helping, Yeah, I'm curating that.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
I definitely am helping because I need all the help
I can get with that.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
That' should a big job.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
But country.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
So yeah, So this year, we're gonna do a bunch
of things just for a straight weekend, straight Like everything's
gonna be free for people, Like we're gonna have probably
a movie theater open, probably have a couple of courses
available for people to just take some stuff. Because I
ultimately cribmss uh. I wanted to be an art school,
you know what I'm saying. I think I told you
(25:16):
this before. Maybe Yeah, I'm still working on there being
an art school. So I'm trying to stray away from
the December concert really turning into something that like can
be forever.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Yeah, like at least stupid school year.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
You know that's smart cause all my fans be so far,
they're so creative, Like they pull up to the show
with the best art I get the best fan art
best period hands. I would love I would love to
have a fan of art competition with any of you artists. Niggas,
My fans is the most creative niggas on Earth, bro,
I promise you.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
So when they meet each other at the show, I
be seeing what happens. I be seeing the shit combust.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
I'm like, damn if y'all niggas can stay meeting each other,
can stay connected with each other.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
That's you know, is it specifically in St. Louis or
is it y St.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Louis?
Speaker 4 (25:57):
I mean all over, Like everywhere I go I get crazy,
or but when I'm at home, I be just so
proud of it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
I'm like, alright, bro, god, yeah, so that's the stuff.
So it's going to turn to a year round situation.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Yeah, run that run the government money Jones.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Oh my god, Yeah, I hope you get it.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
But Country Cousins, what name you came up with? That name?
Did you really?
Speaker 3 (26:29):
With two k's sound like some ship.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
I'm a fan of the word play.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Thanks, But all right.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
We play a game called Questions that Need Answers. All
you gotta do is feell in the blank, the older
I get the less side.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
You would never believe me if I told you.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
I drank some tequila this morning.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
No, I had why because I was sleepy. That wakes
you up.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
It made me her I shouldn't have did it.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Yeah, that was that.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
It was in my room. I'm like, hmmm, take a shot.
Took a shot.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
All right, I won't judge. Okay, I just made sure
you weren't nervous. This is a very safe So.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
I'm just saying the first air to gome to my mind.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Uh, if you could tell your eighteen year old self
three things, what would it be?
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Leave her?
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Yo?
Speaker 3 (27:26):
H start growing your hair right now. M uh, good job.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
All right, those are good. Sometimes I look back at
my life.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
And be like, damn, damn sh at you.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Yeah that's good. That's a little gifting moment. Got chat that.
Uh my personality trait is.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Flash heel high's here? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Oh man, Nah, you're hilarious.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
And this is the last one. I always forget what
the hell is it? Uh? You never believe me if
I told you what the fuck is it? Just let
it go? Yeah, all right, fuck it? And then okay,
(28:42):
that was actually interesting With the last one.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Yeah, it's a fun guy. We get to I like
this made back music. Oh god?
Speaker 2 (28:53):
What is what is a certified sleeper that people are
sleeping on? It can be one of yours or it
could be just like a record in general?
Speaker 3 (29:00):
All you talking about music? I was finna say so alright,
then what you about to say?
Speaker 1 (29:04):
A movie?
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Nah? A certified sleeper?
Speaker 2 (29:07):
No?
Speaker 1 (29:07):
I wanna know what you're gonna say. I feel like
that's gonna be more entertaining.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Oh my god, well you like this?
Speaker 1 (29:18):
That's you to you?
Speaker 4 (29:20):
Oh uh yeah, probably, but I'm talking to you because
you Oh my god, come on, I'm not gonna say that.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Nah, it's wild. That's wild. Oh, certified sleeper. H marc
O Plus from Atlanta, the Soulas album, it's this tomato.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Yeah alright, bro when they thought tomatoes may ketch up?
Speaker 3 (29:38):
I don't give a fucked Oh god, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
But Marko Plush Soless, that's the album that's a la
c Is that the how you say that?
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Solis?
Speaker 1 (29:46):
I don't know you heard of Marco Plus is fire?
Speaker 4 (29:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Well that boy hard? Marco?
Speaker 4 (29:50):
You hard boy on me. I told him, like by
you hard. So hopefully we can make a song. So
I think we actually made a song at the uh
second Dreamville camp.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Oh fire.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Yeah, okay, Damn, you make so much music you don't
even remember it.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
I promise you now, for real, for real, it's terrible.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Like that's why you got a A and off for me.
I got too much music and entitled hey sad to me.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
I get feedback you as you know.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Nah, I ain't gonna stunt. I will say.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
I sent all on my album and got the most
constructive criticism I've ever a adver gotten in my life
about my music, like that our character look at because
you know, my fans say shit to me all the time, right,
but I look at some stuff. But like if somebody
like I wish you would have brought this part of
the song again earlier, I'd be like, that's cool. But
(30:38):
your criticism was very like, I'm like, damn, it's thorough.
You really bumped that shit.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
That's what's up. Man.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
I appreciated that, of course, and you said it right
before a flight, so I was just sitting with it
like that was perfect.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Yeah, it was just random. I'm like, I'm fin the
send this denihalar noah no I got you.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Yeah, please do y'all hear that I got a new
job to A and R Come on, guy. But all right,
so outside of the project the festival, what else can
we expect from twenty twenty five?
Speaker 3 (31:08):
I just recently decided.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
And I know this finna sound really like whatever, but
I'm I'm I'm I'm definitely like the fresh I'm finna
be the freshest nigga on earth. That's that was my
I'm like my whole I'm like, all right, bro, twenty
twenty five, I'm best dressed period. Yeah, okay, I literally
I like getting dressed.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
But now I'm like, I'm on that.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
So what's the what's the difference between what you've been
doing before?
Speaker 4 (31:40):
It's like, uh, what I do like right now, Like
how I dress is just like style. I just I
just I'm cozy. I'm gonna go uncozy, but cozy it's
still gonna look like me.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
He said, I'm going und button up.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Oh dang.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
But I mean maybe you remember I can't tell you
what the hell then they're gonna know.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
But it's it's it's yeah type shit, yeah type ship.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
And then twenty twenty five, I'm a lot of music.
Uh headlines, no tour, yeah, first one since twenty yeah,
I mean yeah, I'm saying first just solo heads I'm sorry,
first solo where's my head at?
Speaker 3 (32:20):
First solo headline tour since twenty nineteen? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (32:23):
So is that since nor m hoopy it we called
it the Hoopy tour.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Now.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
I went to that one. That was actually my introduction
to you.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Word yeah, work, you went to a silver spring.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
No, I went to the Urban Plaza, I think.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
And she was crazy, the band, the singers. You was
literally orchestrating this ship. I'm like, who is this, nigga?
This ship is fly.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
It's a little church baby, man, little church baby. That's
how that church baby.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
I think you had to lean with a rock with
a competition. I'm like, this is there's too many elements
going on, right.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Man, going up? Yeah, it was just it just felt.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Like felt like a party. Yeah, I felt like a party.
All right.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
I'm excited for that tour. Okay, tour music, I guess
that's everything. Well, I'm excited. I'm a fan. Thank you
for coming. Always shout out to your grand Let everybody
know where they could follow you if they don't already.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Oh yeah, ask me, no, you know, that's.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
It just I forgot to ask, well, one's a statement,
and then them follow up with a question when you
fake cut your hair shambles.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Actually was crazy.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Why did you do that?
Speaker 4 (33:36):
I just had a pony tail. I'm like, why, y'all
don't know what this a pony you sold? You know
how you have like the like new girl in front
of your ship.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Well, I don't know. I get lining. So I just
thought it was funny.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
When I get fed niggas was you gotta understand? I
was just like the whole rat beef between Dot and Drake.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
My name.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
I'm just trending the whole time because Nigga. Anytime Drake
do anything like people like, are you.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Trying to look like that?
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Nigga ain't trying to look I ain't never did none
of them hairstyles he got he I ain't seen him
do one hairstyle I got. If anything he like it
swagged like Tupac above the realm? What that's how you
dressing them big clothes and shit like that. That's how
probably used to d I don't think it's.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
More so about the outfits. I think it's more of
the hair.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
I ain't never had them.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
We never had them clips.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
I ain't never wear them.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
You ain't never had the clips. But you you, you
do pigtails. You do pigtails.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
It was only one thing I could see that I'm like, okay,
that's valid, but it's just like even still. But I mean,
shout out to the culture, shout out to my peoples
and my fans wanted to just had me apart, but
I'm like, god damn, I don't want to be training, bro,
I just want to listen to the music and be
a fan, like, yeah, bro, please, so I play cut
my hurt though. That probably why that happened, though, I
faink cut my heir because niggas kept doing that shit.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
That's why I did it, Okay, but.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
I also did kind of cut a little bit of
my hair, but I didn't really cut.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
My he off as you can see.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Yeah, no, it's here. It's here that should hit the
group chat like he caught it.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
That ship is crazy, bro, That shit is funny as hell.
But shout out to black women for wanting to protect
my scalp.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
Yes, yes, take my scout man for real.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
I got I gotta find me a one of them.
Her car scientists ladies. So if any of y'all watching this,
I'm looking for her car scientists to help me make
my smee j at Walker.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Oh the Lord, that was clever.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
That was clever.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Appreciate it all right, Got until next time, Talk soon,
Peace
Speaker 3 (35:33):
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