THEY Got A Love Jones

Nyla Symone sits down with R&B duo, THEY to discuss their upcoming R&B album, Love Jones, diving into the nostalgia behind their sound, the art of storytelling, and the genre’s evolution. They explore the influence of old-school R&B, their creative process, and the themes of love and relationships woven into their music. The conversation also touches on live performances, AI in music production, masculinity, astrology, and personal growth—all with a mix of humor, insight, and memorable tour stories. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:52):
So I'm trying to get it down with you boys.
What's up to one? Alan?

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Yo?

Speaker 3 (01:00):
Not? You need to talk my girl? We need a time.
Wait a minute, you stay wait a.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
Minute, she wasn't a Gemini? What? Oh my god? Yeah,
I really, my man, I really thought about that. I've
been thinking about that as a whole.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
Just get into choosing. She don't really love me, she
just want my money? Is what y'all going through?

Speaker 1 (01:27):
I mean, we live in La It's a time of
it's a timeless stem.

Speaker 5 (01:33):
It's I'm a five star now if you want to
trade up on me for a bum ass?

Speaker 1 (01:36):
And that song good, yo, yo yo. What's up y'all?
It's Drew Love Dante Jones. We are They? Our new
R and B album Love Jones comes out on Valentine's Day.
Give Me, Give Me? Can you? We need to talk?

Speaker 3 (01:56):
What's going on?

Speaker 1 (01:57):
Guys?

Speaker 3 (01:57):
Nowlson here with another episode of We Need to Talk?

Speaker 6 (01:59):
And today I have a very special guest in the building,
one of my favorite duos.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
No No Funny ship. If you know me, you know
I'm always posting these guys. I got they in the building.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
How are you guys.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
I'm so happy to have.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
You guys, happy to be here. It's been a minute. DC. Yeah,
the last time, the time, that was.

Speaker 6 (02:20):
The last time I seen you and you guys premiered
Diamonds and Pros.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
I was listening to the video I took, like, damn,
this is a I even texted like, Yo, can you
can you see me the record?

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Remember that thank you? You always get this time?

Speaker 4 (02:37):
I think you got you was one of the first
ones to get like an actual real preview.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Yo, here's a song, like yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:42):
Yeah, And I just would like to say I have
been playing it, burning it to the ground, So even
before you guys dropped it, because I know y'all dropped
it as a single, but yeah, I'm just such a
fan of y'all. Before we get into the music, though,
how are you guys feeling doing good?

Speaker 1 (02:57):
Good?

Speaker 5 (02:57):
I was good man, just excited to put this thing out. Man,
been working on it for about a year or two,
so it's like, yeah, it's like that.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
I don't even know how long it's been. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (03:05):
I always get like a little bit of anxiety right
before some music. I mean, it could be a single,
could be whatever. But I'm always just like a little
anxious just because I'm like, Okay, I got that perfectionist
to where it's like, Okay, I think I did everything
I needed to do, but you know, but I'm excited,
Like we've been building out this world for the Love
Drones album here for a minute, so you know, I'm
just I'm just pumped, honestly.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (03:25):
I love the nostalgia behind it. Yeah, I'm a huge fan.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
I mean, we didn't take that name lightly, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (03:32):
We definitely knew that we had to give up to
the legacy of that before we before we even.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Took it on.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
So no pressure on it. But Love Jones is my
favorite movie.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
So if you guys did.

Speaker 4 (03:42):
Not do it, no check it was on repeat. I
got a TV in the studio right above me. It
was on repeat basically like the whole time that we
was working on stuff. We gotta like, it's gotta match
the vibe like throughout.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
I love that. Okay, good to hear. First, did you
guys watch the Grammys?

Speaker 1 (03:59):
Yeah, a little bit of it. I saw, I saw clips.
I didn't. I didn't watch it. I was packing it
out here.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
Did you see that babyface clip?

Speaker 1 (04:05):
I did?

Speaker 5 (04:06):
Oh sure, he was talking about Chapel Wrong, Chapel Chapel.
I was bro I'm like, yo.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
Good hurt No, it hurt me.

Speaker 4 (04:14):
And the way he handled it was so smooth like
he did. He didn't get upset. He was like, no,
go go do that. That's what y'all want to go
do it. But like, yo, you're doing this to like
a real goat, you know what I'm saying, like one
of the best that's ever written a song like artists
like so.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
To be like that dismissive idea like that.

Speaker 4 (04:31):
I mean she's getting fried up though online, so yeah,
almost too far, but respect you know she set herself
up for that. I mean, you do that too, like
you know, somebody who's a goat within the black community,
Like you know, we're gonna have that back. But yeah,
it's it's not looking good right now.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (04:52):
I was like, do you think like people outside, like
in other worlds, respect the R and B genre?

Speaker 3 (04:58):
Because how you if you do? Was not the baby face,
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (05:02):
If they didn't give the people there, like if the
winners were who the winners were, I would really be
raising hell.

Speaker 5 (05:08):
I think it's a generational thing, bro. I think it's
just her. She just she don't even know. I was
at the zoo with my family and whatnot, and uh,
we had seen this elephant that was at the zoo,
and then apparently there was an elephant that had belonged
to Michael Jackson or something at the point, and then
the lady was like.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
Oh, that's Michael Jackson's elephant, and the kids like, who's
Michael Jackson? And I bro I almost left the zoo.
Yeah I can't, but that's that's on apparent. That's was like, no.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
Why why would she do that if she didn't educate it.
Look like my son is the biggest Michael Jackson fan.
He sits there on the TV on you to watch everything.
He actually did a Michael Jackson performance. He's five. He did,
he did all he did. Billy Jean did the moonwalk.
He got it, he was he was Yeah, he got
the lad kick. He had the sparkly jacket like he
was about it. So as much as his generational shirt,

(06:00):
there's certain things like it ain't generational. That's just like
that's parent parent negligence right there.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
Yeah, it's a little bit of both. Yeah, it's a
little bit of both. We got to do better. Who's
Michael Jackson? Is crazy? Like in any universe.

Speaker 5 (06:13):
Thought about that for the next twenty four to forty.

Speaker 4 (06:17):
I'm excited for the movie though. I feel like that'll
be a whole new, you know.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
New MJ movie.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
Yeah, and yeah, it's coming out.

Speaker 4 (06:25):
I went to Yeah this is October and they got
his nephew playing him.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
So that's crazy, you know.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
Playing him.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
Yeah, that's blanket, blanket, blanket is blanket. Oh my goodness.
Oh man, No, it looks fired. It looks fired though. Okay,
clips I've seen.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
I want to see it for sure. I think have
you guys seen the musical MJ.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
Yeah, so the Broadway No, I thought this is it.
I thought, you this is no.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
They have MJ on Broadway. That's fire. I've seen it
twice with two different guys playing Michael, like both of
them give Michael.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
I guess that's what's up.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
It's crazy, So I'm here for it. And then what
did you guys think about Chris Brown winning an award
for R and B Album of the Year.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
I think that's amazing. I mean, I mean, I think
it's about time, bro. It's about time.

Speaker 4 (07:21):
Bro.

Speaker 5 (07:21):
It's like, I know, you know, everybody makes mistakes in
their life, but it's just like I just feel like,
you know, it's not condone anything.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
He's done in the past.

Speaker 5 (07:28):
But it's just like his music speaks for himself and
it's been a long time. He was like eighteen nineteen
years old when that happened. So it just let the
man live. It's like the same people that's crucifying him,
you over there, Gym and the music. So it's just like,
let the man get the rewards awards that he deserves.
And I thought it was a great album. So and
I got a lot of friends that worked on that
album shout out here making shout out for Sean y'all.

Speaker 4 (07:46):
Yeah, So it's just like, yeah, yeah, we had we
had another homie, Dwayne, who has.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
Worked on him.

Speaker 4 (07:51):
He wrote out of the Residuals record, So yeah, that's
a that's a Day one homie. But nah, just like
Drew Drew was saying, you know, so many people like
let the past and stuff caut their vision. But I
think the thing that is so underrated about Chris Brown
is like his work work ethic and just his consistency,
like that man, like consistent year after year after year,
like you know he's gonna get one. But you know,

(08:13):
they say he's like Tupac in the studio, just the
chamber of songs that he does and the amount of
songs that he does every single night, where it's just
like inevitably, like regardless of how you feel about him,
you gotta recognize the artistry. And I'm glad that he's
finally getting the real recognition they deserves.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
Yeah, I agree, and at a high level.

Speaker 5 (08:32):
No, exactly exactly and still one of the best performers
that exists on the planet right now. Man, if you
see that man performance, how hard it is to do
with everything he's doing and sing to the level that
he's singing while he's doing all that, it's crazy.

Speaker 4 (08:46):
Yeah, there's one to one and you know, like I said,
and nobody perfect, but you gotta you gotta celebrate people
who are that that Caglberd you know.

Speaker 6 (08:55):
So I feel too salute to Chris. I'm super happy
about it. If you guys could bring back one thing
from old school R and B, whether it be sound, storytelling,
music videos, what would it be.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
M I would say two things.

Speaker 5 (09:09):
I would say, the the storytelling and then just the
way that they layer the vocals and do the harmonies
and things like that, you know what I mean, Or
just in general bringing back groups groups.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
I think that's what I bring.

Speaker 5 (09:22):
Yeah, but more like I mean, I think people are
trying right now and it's kind of kind of working,
but like I don't know.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
If it's like there, So I would just love to
see them.

Speaker 5 (09:30):
I grew up on like jacketed jacket Edge, Drew Hill
as well, you know what I'm saying, boys to men
all that. So it's just like I would love to
see that come back like.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
In full force. Now.

Speaker 4 (09:40):
For me, I would say, like just tempo and groove,
you know what I'm saying. Like, you know, I grew
up my my favorite genre era R and B is
like that great eighties New Jack swing R and B.
You know what I'm saying, Like all the way also too,
but I love up tempo stuff from the two thousands,
Like we talk about one twelve jacket edge.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
I should always have that.

Speaker 4 (09:59):
But I feel like that's something that's absolutely missing right now,
you know, because things have become very like sparse and
you know a little bit bare bones and stuff like that.
Like and I know, you know a lot of people
are paying homage to like neo soul and stuff like that,
but me personally, I didn't really listen to too much
of that growing up. You know what I'm saying, Like

(10:19):
I was actually yeah, Like I mean it was one
of those things like I heard with my mom more
so than anything else.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
You know what I'm saying. It wasn't.

Speaker 4 (10:27):
I was more Socus in the Usher or Donelle Jones
or you know one twelve stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
Okay, yeah, that borderline he's.

Speaker 4 (10:38):
I feel like he only had a couple of joints
that was like leaning neo. So other than that, like
his ship was somebody.

Speaker 5 (10:44):
Called Jones is called him neo. So like I wouldn't
necessarily argue with Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
I wouldn't agree. I would not.

Speaker 4 (10:49):
I would No, he's not neo. So to me, the
only one that's even like remotely neo.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
Soul is where I want to be. That's the only
one I was selling. I couldn't one of the biggest. Nah,
this Love's got like.

Speaker 4 (11:02):
Programmed NPC drums, It's got like a it's like a
keyboard driven thing. Like to me, Neil So is very
like instance on live instruments and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
Like that one's to me, like the rest of that
album is not.

Speaker 4 (11:14):
And that's that's honestly, That's like one of my top
two favorite R and B albums of all time, But
like I wouldn't. I would never say it was Neil
so just in my.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
Opinion, Okay, interesting, Yeah, I gotta go back and listen.
But I would put Maxwell there before I would put.

Speaker 6 (11:32):
Him, but I wouldn't just like exclude him.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
But I never listened to Maxim. I don't know what's.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
What are you saying right now? For some reason, when
you said Neils too, I just assumed that Maxwell wasn't
included in that. But you know what, you you fuck
with New Jackson. That's your favorite era and that's my
favorite area.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
No, it's it's also too.

Speaker 4 (11:55):
I feel like if we're talking about what resonates on
like a broader global scale, it's a uptempo stuff. It's
just like you go back and you look at like
album tells and stuff like that. Obviously that's just one
factor and how it had an impact.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
But you know those are number ones.

Speaker 4 (12:10):
We talk about Babyface, like Bobby Brown had like three
number ones.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
Off, don't be cruel, you know what I'm saying, like
all that those are number one records.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
Damn.

Speaker 6 (12:18):
That actually makes me sad to hear though, just because
not that I'm sad about up Temple Records being number one,
But Neo Soul is so special, Like I love I
love the soul like it's really a community.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
It's it's very niche and it's very specific, but it's
very intentional.

Speaker 4 (12:38):
Yeah, like I said, I grew up around it, you know,
for Shure, like especially like my mom's my dad, you know,
there was always listening to it. But for me, like
it just it was never like a point of inspiration
for me, even.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
If it's for you. But I still want them to
make more money. That's all.

Speaker 6 (12:54):
I mean, they deserve it. Neo Soul gets me through.
That's the healing music. Yeah, get into this new project
Love Jones that you guys are putting out now.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
Obviously this title is a playoff.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
Of the movie.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
But what like triggered it, what it inspired it?

Speaker 1 (13:11):
Well, he actually is the person who came up with
that for this album.

Speaker 5 (13:17):
But I do I like to put this disclaimer out
now that we finally got this name out, Like when
we first came out with the Day name, we were
trying to come up with our name or whatnot, like
they came from because it was like a file name.
We had named this the song that was ended up
being called back it Up. The file name was just
day point one or something like that. Was always that's
a cool name to me. Think it's something different, and

(13:38):
in my homie it hit me up because I knew
I was looking for a name, and he's like, you
should call it Love Jones, Drew Love and d'ante Jones,
And I told him that. He was like, Nah, at
the time, he was like, I feel.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
Like that's that's a pretty great name. Not gonna lie,
but but at.

Speaker 4 (13:52):
The time, I don't I don't recall being as opposed
to it or being the only one that.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
Was supposed to it. That's what I That's what I'll say.

Speaker 4 (14:02):
But you know, and memories of I think it was
just at the time, you gotta you gotta paint the
pictures twenty fifteen, like the SoundCloud, like you know, more
turn up stuff that's happening, like we're doing all this
like you know, grungey guitar driven stuff, like I don't know.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
If it was a great name. I like the name,
but I don't know if it fit.

Speaker 4 (14:21):
We was doing in the time period of what we
was doing at the time.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
I could agree with that, Okay, understood. Is it your
favorite movie.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
It's one of It's one of the joints that I
grew up with, for sure. One of my favorite black
movies for sure.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
Okay, but what is the black movie that tops Love Jones?
Isn't one?

Speaker 1 (14:38):
Right, You're gonna.

Speaker 5 (14:41):
Argue me with me for this, but it's just more
because it was just a movie that was more in
my household and people are playing it all the time,
like I would watch Love and Basketball over that.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
Oh okay, that's a that's a fair one. You know,
that's a fair I give you.

Speaker 4 (14:54):
Yeah, I'm not good, yo, I can't. I can't even
die like okay. So as far as romance movies, I say,
it's like one A one B Love Jones and Loving Basketball,
you know what I'm saying. Like as far as romance movies,
but if we just talk to like black movies, I'm
you know, I like action.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
I like gangst movies and stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (15:14):
So I would go boys in the Hood, Boys in
the Hood, I would say, Minister Society, stuff like that.
Juice one of my favorite movies. But it's like kind
of a deep cut is a deep cover with Laurence Fishburn,
you know, I like, I just like stuff that like
early nineties kind of like gritty noir type aesthetic, a
little bit more than like romance joints.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
But same, Okay, understandable for sure. You know, I'm just
a girl, so I'm.

Speaker 4 (15:38):
No no I got like I said, it's one A,
one B with those movies as far as like that
that genre.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
Other than those two, what would be your third favorite?

Speaker 3 (15:48):
The wood okay and Jason's lyric Okay, wow, interesting, Okay.
I love that that love seeing in the garden, love
love love.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
Love love that, you know.

Speaker 4 (16:04):
And I'm and it's gotten worse as I as I've
gotten older. I just don't like super emotional movies. Sometimes
I gotta I gotta be in the movie. So like
Jason's lyric, like I really got to be like the
right head space.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
You just got to cut off before the end, you
gotta know when watch liking like all right, I'm gonna
set this one out and then I'll come back in
like three minutes.

Speaker 4 (16:25):
And then I feel like I feel like it was
all them kids movies and stuff like that too, because
they be having a lot of traffic.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
Scenes up in there to where maybe I just.

Speaker 4 (16:32):
Got to the point I'm like, I don't want to
see nobody die. I want to see no grief.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
Like I'm good, right, Jason.

Speaker 3 (16:39):
Lyric is intense, but the love part is so cute.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
Like I love the it's great. It's a great movie.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
Okay, yeah, right man, But okay, talk to me about
the artwork.

Speaker 6 (16:54):
That you guys are putting out, because I like the
consistency with the singles into the official cover art.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
But I just love it.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (17:01):
I mean I'll be the first one to say, like,
as much as a creative person I am in the
history today thing, Like I usually defer that to Dante
because he always be having ideas as soon as we
started to make an album. Yeah, as soon as we
start to make an album, we got three, four or
five songs in his brain's already working about like what
this is gonna look like, So like as opposed in

(17:22):
the beginning, I would try to throw my ideas out there,
Like I started to realize, like his idea is usually
grising to the top, and so it's like for this one,
he did the same thing, kind of took the lead
and we used our homie Christian.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
Yeah, shout out Christian.

Speaker 4 (17:34):
So just just like Drew said, you know, we once
we started to get like four or five songs, and
then I started like kind of wrapping my head around,
like Okay, well what does this feel like?

Speaker 1 (17:44):
What does it remind me of?

Speaker 4 (17:45):
And I'm always referencing like certain points in my life,
you know what I'm saying, Like maybe a last album
was more like you know, late teenager like kind of
going through changes and stuff.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
This one was a go earlier.

Speaker 4 (17:56):
It was actually when I was spending a lot of
time in Chicago. My mom is from Chicago, grew up
on the South Side. No, absolutely absolutely, so like you know,
during that time I was, she actually passed away, so
I started making a lot of trips up there to
be with her family, and you know what I'm saying,
be around my aunts and just make sure that like

(18:17):
you know, despite her pastor like that connection with still
like getting stronger and stuff. So you know that that's
also that's like three to six, and that's like when
the soul sampling is happening, and that's when, you know,
just the Chicago was kind of haveing like a resurgence.
Kanye was coming out like it's just Twister was obviously
like finally having this moment, So like I'm really thinking about, Okay, what.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
Was my life like during that time?

Speaker 4 (18:41):
And like I said, I'm spending a lot of time
at my grandmother's house, spend a lot of time at
my aunt's house, and I'm thinking of like what that
felt like. And they always used to have so much
just black art all around the house, you know what
I'm saying, And just black paintings, and it was it
was like a staple no matter what. And they had
so much like dope stuff, Like I really wanted to
to pay homage to that. And one of the main

(19:02):
things a lot of times with those paintings would be
like they be faceless, you know, or like have a
little smear or whatever. So whenever we were doing the
ideas I got with Christian, I sent him a couple
of references, and you know, he knocked it out the
park every single time, all the way up to.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
Like the album covering that we got now.

Speaker 4 (19:19):
But you know, it's it's good to have an idea,
but you also got to ou to people who can
help that translate. So unfortunate we got a good, good
team of creatives that can help bring the ideas to life,
you know.

Speaker 6 (19:30):
Yeah, I like the texture of the pot. Yeah, it
looks like I don't know, past Delhi or Yeah.

Speaker 4 (19:38):
No, it's got like it's got that like impression, this
type of feel, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
So dang, So okay, I did not know you faked
from Chicago.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
Yeah, I might be a fake fake.

Speaker 4 (19:50):
I always like I've always been a white Sox fan
just because, like you know, I grew up in Denver
because my mom moved out there like in their like
late twenties or whatever. But like I was always a
white Sox fan, like over a Rockies fan and stuff
like that. Like, but you know, I'm different. Is my home,
but like Chicago was always like a second home.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
Yeah, yeah, that's dope. I love Chicago. I haven't been,
but all the people that I meet from there are
just very solid.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
I feel like that's the cousin.

Speaker 5 (20:19):
Yeah, yeah, because he moved out when he was over
there doing that Chicago vibe. Like that's kind of when
I moved from a Passo to DC and then lived
there for the you know till Il Paso. Yeah, the
first part of my life I was in Texas and
my family is in military around.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
Yeah, he's bouncing around. I knew that I didn't know
military brat yeah, San Antonio in d C. And then
I moved out here to La.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
Davis Station, which stay do you remember the base? Okay,
he went by himself and he let me stay at
Fort Meet.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
Okay, okay, shout out to you that.

Speaker 3 (20:56):
Sorry, but okay, let's get into this project. So you guys,
it off with Love Jones, which is just strictly instrumental.
Why just the instrumental. I was waiting and I'm like, wait,
did I miss it?

Speaker 1 (21:08):
It's like we always do that though it's like usually
the intro is like just instrumental.

Speaker 5 (21:11):
Like I feel like in the past, that's a few
projects for most of them, it's like, you know, setting
the tone the music.

Speaker 4 (21:18):
Yeah album well and two Like like I said, you know,
it's paying homagship a particular era.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
But also like I remember riding around.

Speaker 4 (21:26):
You know, the one thing about Chicago, they have so
many great radio stations there too, and they got this
one station I always would just play like the classic
soul joints, And I feel like that's why, like a
big it's always feeding into the music out of Chicago too,
especially during that time, which just like that that old
school soul music. So I just kind of wanted to
like set the tone, like you walking into something different,

(21:47):
just straight from the jump. I tried at first, I
like I had chopped up a Tupac interview, and then
I slowly realized, like this is you know, like in
the midst of the beef and everything, Like I hit me.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
I'm like, this is gonna get clear interview. So I
took it off. I was like, you know what, it
works on its own, just because it said it's the
tone just from the jump.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
Yeah, it definitely is a palate cleanser.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
Yeah, for sure. I like that.

Speaker 6 (22:12):
And actually, before I dive more into this project, you
mentioned that like for the previous project it felt like like.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
Teenagers for you.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
I feel like the song three or five and three
on one, Yeah, that song really grew on me, like
one of my favorites. Actually, even with the rap there's
a rap vers on there, right, I feel like, yeah,
not yeah, that's a really hard record.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
That record.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
I just have to shout that out. No, it wasn't
my favorite one at first, but.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
Like it grew on me.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
Yeah, yeah, that's a great record. Okay, anyway get into choosing.
She don't really love me, she just want my money.
This is what y'all going through.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
I mean in LA, it's it's a timeless stem.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
It's timeless thing.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
This good woman I here, you know what I'm saying.
But you know you live in l A. I don't like.
That's not that I like the I like to take
care of my woman always.

Speaker 5 (23:26):
But but it's just like, if that's what ends up
being your ultimate intention and desire when I'm over here
actually trying and give you myself and that's all you
was into in the first place, that's not necessarily my vibe.
So you always got to weed them out a little
bit sometimes, unfortunately.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
Where we live.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
So all right, you know, choosing, But isn't everybody choosing
up until a certain point?

Speaker 1 (23:48):
Yeah for sure. For sure, you don't want the game,
and it's part of the game, and it is.

Speaker 5 (23:52):
I do like the game to a certain extent, but
it's like there's certain parts of my life where I'm
trying to you want to find somebody's matching your in it.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
Yeah, y'all, y'all know how to identify a chooser?

Speaker 5 (24:03):
Yeah, absolutely absolutely, Yeah, Yeah, I got a rate I
got a radar for it, bro, Really, I got a
radar for it.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
What it is like, what it's like two signs of
all right, this is she's a chooser.

Speaker 5 (24:16):
Well if she's a chooser first of all, Like if
there's going out to the club and all, that is normal.
But if there's somebody that's going out to the club
four or five times a week type of thing they
always out and it's like, okay, you go out with her, right,
and then you walk into a random place that you
don't think either one of you being and she's like, oh, this.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
Burs it up. I'm just like.

Speaker 5 (24:37):
Like, you know what I'm saying, Like I thought I
was taking you a place you ain't never been before.
You know, the bartender and the surfer, and you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (24:43):
That's a sign also a first first day choice, like
where the restaurant that they might pick too. Yeah, yeah,
they're going to catch pricey like off the rim, they're
going to catch off the My god, I'm just I'm
just like, Bro, you and this for a free meal?

Speaker 1 (25:01):
This is this is not I see what's going to
promoter her? Dinners and ship?

Speaker 3 (25:06):
Oh my god, you want to take the girl. All right,
if I don't want to be catch.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
Like V Dinners as a chooser.

Speaker 3 (25:14):
You know, ladies don't extra catch on the first time
wait for the second time. Obviously, that is a great
rest you.

Speaker 4 (25:19):
Gotta build that, you know what, I'm started cheesecake factory
and then.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
Your insert cut.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
Oh goodness, no, honestly, okay, I'm only teasing. I like catch.
I like cheesecake factory. Personally, I'm cool with a coffee shop.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
I need to know.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
I need to know if I even want to give
you any more of my time in space next to you.

Speaker 4 (25:45):
Yeah, that's that's a low commitment right there. It's just
all right, let's try this out. You know, you can
finish your coffee in fifteen minutes.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
Or it could be hours of conversation.

Speaker 5 (25:55):
Yeah, I'm usually like a go to a little sushi
restaurant or like a pasta restaurant something.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
Like that, Like she's good, good, you know how to
use a little yeah?

Speaker 1 (26:05):
Are you?

Speaker 3 (26:07):
Culture?

Speaker 1 (26:08):
Is that a red flag? If you can't use the
chop six?

Speaker 3 (26:10):
Oh my god, you can't use yeah?

Speaker 4 (26:13):
No, no, no, no, I can use the CHOPSI I'm
saying for somebody else, for somebody else. Let's say they thirty,
She asked.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
I don't want to say it's a red flag, but
I am alarmed.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
Yeah, you can take a mental note.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
Yeah, like I asked for working sushi, Like, no, we
got to teach you how to use let me help
you out real quick. But okay, next we're gonna get
into diamonds and pros.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
Now.

Speaker 6 (26:42):
I had this record obviously earlier. I was assessed with
it and I definitely played it on the Breakfast Club,
and you know, forgive the.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
Old men I worked with, but they're like Prince Prince Prince,
and I'm like, y'all, this song doesn't even feel down
look like fronts.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
But I get it, yo.

Speaker 4 (27:03):
I mean because from the jump as soon as he
saying diamonds and pearls, like there's there's already a guy
like a golden song with that. But it's not the
only way that you can use the concept for the thing.
But I get it, especially all like a generational aspect
for sure.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
Yeah, they was doing too much a little bittle bit.

Speaker 5 (27:21):
It's like it's not even like it's an obscure phrase.
Diamonds and pearls is like the very common phrase, even
though it's a Prince record, which, like, you know, one
of the best print songs in my opinion. It's just
like people say that all the time, so you can't
expect nobody to ever use the phrase diamonds and pearls
ever again.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
I was listening back and I'm like, let me see
if they could have picked a different name for it.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
But I'm like, it's right there, like the main hook
and everything.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
But there's like some special sauce in that record. I
don't know what it is, but yeah, it fels then
like like the magical sound of the song build some more.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
Yeah, can you come in.

Speaker 6 (28:06):
I'm just I'm a fan, But talk to me about
the production of that record. How'd you guys come up
with that?

Speaker 4 (28:12):
So so that's me and Drew and then our boy Caleb,
who worked on the last project quite a bit. But
you know, Caleb is a great producer musician, So I
think I started the drums first and he he just
came out with that doom. I was like, okay, cool, cool,
start layering on that. And actually, I don't know, actually, Drew,
you weren't there when we first started, but Drew just

(28:34):
hit me like on a whim, just like yo, I
just finished something up I'm gonna pull up because I
was kind of humming some melodies and had like a
little bit of the diamonds and pearls thing going, and
I was like, all right, I got something like pull
pull up comes through. We started humming the melodies back
and forth, and next thing.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
You know, it just it just came together.

Speaker 4 (28:51):
But now, I like, I really liked that one because, like,
especially when I think of like nineties R and B,
Like sometimes people like the boxing and certain things, but
one of my favorite periods is like that like ninety
five ninety six era where things kind of slowed down
just a little bit.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
It was like this very deliberate era.

Speaker 4 (29:09):
So you to to put in reference, it's like when
you hear that first Brandy album and it's like you know,
baby baby, or like sitting up in my room. It's
just like a little bit more or TLC creep. It's
like a little bit more of like a deliberate type
of bounds. But there's something really you can find some
really dope pockets in there too as a writer, and
we you know, you definitely found some dope ones.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
I like that now that you said that, because it's
not like up, but it's not slow either.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
Yeah, no, in the middle middle.

Speaker 4 (29:34):
Yeah, it's like, like I said, the pacing is just deliberate.
It's just like you nodding, but you're not going like
too fast, too crazy, you know.

Speaker 6 (29:41):
And honestly, everybody that I played it for, like if
I'm like playing it around people, even people that.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
Usually don't ask me like it's that, Like they, oh,
what's that, I'm like, yeah, that's right, Yeah, it's that.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
Jones. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (29:56):
One other person, I go Key, I got a shout
out because I guess he put up a little bit later.
So we had the hook and we had a part
of the verse. You're not the whole verse, but we
kind of got stuck on the verse. I want to
shout out my girl, Gibby Frank, who came through. She's
She's She's from Barbados, and I think that she kind

(30:16):
of helped us out a little bit of that, like
that I went flavor to it too. She has laid
down a couple of verse passes and she's actually the
female vocals that you have.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
She's cold. Yeah, man, that super cool.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (30:34):
I love that record, guys, But oh, I was gonna
ask have you guys bought a woman diamond and pears.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
Are we there yet?

Speaker 3 (30:43):
Are we getting there?

Speaker 4 (30:44):
No?

Speaker 1 (30:45):
Oh my god, I'm married to.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
Grow up.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
I'm married. I bought a diamond.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
But it's just not it ain't not yet, not yet, okay,
but it is on your list of things to do.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (31:06):
I know y'all lived this artist lifestyle. You could be jaded.
You're experiencing all types of whatever.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
Whatever.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
It's just not you know, just hasn't happened yet.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
You know, before my heart before okay, you hear that,
y'all had. I was about to say it.

Speaker 6 (31:22):
Y'all had a lot of women at y'all show, at
the DC show. Yeah, I mean the ship was over,
they still asking questions.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
I'm like, damn, this is kind of crazy.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
I mean yeah, and the goal key too.

Speaker 4 (31:34):
There was because we have preview diamonds and pearls a
little bit on our socials. There was a few of
them out there that was singing it along with us.
They knew, they knew it like before we even dropped it.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
Just because we've been teasing it a little bit. So
those are like some real real fans it were.

Speaker 3 (31:48):
I was impressed. I thought not gonna say I thought
it was just me, but they were just as curious.
I'm talking about for the Q and A plan, like
the questions was like very they knew.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
They fast, like when you put this song and the yeah,
and I was like, Yo, that's wow. I know. I
love that you remember more than I do about my own.

Speaker 6 (32:10):
But and also lastly and then I'll pivot to the
next record, is that everybody was engaged.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
Everybody had their hand up. Yeah, it was I can't
wait to go to the show.

Speaker 5 (32:22):
Usually that's how our fans are, which is what my
favorite and I'm excited to get back on tour again
this year.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
Yeah, our fans usually are really engaged and they know that,
so yeah, it's usually really good.

Speaker 4 (32:32):
So we we always try to make sure that our
show has a lot of energy because I love going
to show too. But sometimes, like some RB shows will
just be a little they'll kind of drag a little bit.
So I think like from day one especially we started
off performing as openers on the Briceon tour back in
the day, but we're unknown, so I think that from

(32:52):
day one, and it was like thirty shows back to back,
we were like, we gotta find a way to keep
people engaged, you know what I'm saying. Because I got
the openers, they just go out who they said, and
then that's just you know, the crowd likes or whatever. Like, No,
we're like, we want them to love us, so we
gotta find ways to keep this thing energetic and keep
people engaged.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
So that's always gonna be at the core of our
gob show.

Speaker 5 (33:11):
I always like to say, like, instead of singing to them,
I want to sing with them. Yeah, I want them
to feel like they're a part of it with me
and singing it with me and doing all that stuff,
as opposed to people like a lot of times you'll
just go and they're just singing the song to you
and okay, next one and okay, Yeah, it's like they're
in a bubble or something, you know, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 4 (33:25):
So they'll break the fourth wall a little bit just
every now and again, but then like they just go
right back to just be a viby of stuff.

Speaker 6 (33:32):
You know, you guys did a great job. I thoroughly
enjoyed it, and I too was singing even though that
was the first time.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
And that's what I was thinking, is.

Speaker 6 (33:38):
Like I've never heard the song before and I'm singing
the hook. There you go like it's been five minutes.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
It's a great sign, That's what I mean.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (33:48):
But okay, so Diamonds and Pearls was my original favorite record,
but now it's given rotation.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
Okay, And I think it's given rotation because I really
have all music and rotations, probably an unhealthy amount, but whatever.
So it's super sexy. Oh and that's what I want
to know. Do you guys be fucking to your music?

Speaker 1 (34:10):
No? No, yeah he does, he does.

Speaker 4 (34:17):
I'm not gonna lie case studies with the joints that rotation,
that one went over well, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
They always hit me with a case study after the fact,
you know what.

Speaker 4 (34:32):
Important, especially if he changed his mind about to join him,
but yo, what what had him?

Speaker 1 (34:36):
What happened?

Speaker 5 (34:37):
He could go either way though on this on this album,
particularly because this album is full of such sexual confident
this time, I'm just.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
Like, all right, I gotta see how this really go
in the situation.

Speaker 5 (34:47):
So like, straight up, that went off well, and then
the rotation went off well in this situation.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
Damn. But yeah, you guys, I don't want to be
a statistic, but I picked the one that worked.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
Those two definitely worked.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
That is hilarious.

Speaker 6 (35:03):
Wait, so what is a situation that goes left that
you're like, no, we're not using that record. Did any
of the records that go left make it on this project?

Speaker 1 (35:11):
We mean, go left and in the wild. In the
wild doesn't work in the situation.

Speaker 5 (35:18):
Yeah, I don't know if it ever goes left. It's
just like you could just for me what what tells
if it works? Is it just it heightens the experience
or whatever? You know, But it's never a song that
just like somebody's like turn off or something like that.
It's just I can just tell if it makes the
moment better or not.

Speaker 6 (35:37):
Okay, that's so funny because when I wrote this question,
I knew you was going to be the one to
say yes.

Speaker 5 (35:47):
For example, straight up like after the situation, she asked
me what song that was. That's when I'm just like,
asked me what that was after the situation?

Speaker 1 (35:59):
I was like, all right, that's definitely a goer.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
I love that market research is important. Yeah, I support it.
What was that sample that you guys put at the
end of the song, So.

Speaker 4 (36:12):
Yeah, no, no, So so you mentioned the intro earlier
we were talking about straight up, So all these are samples.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
That I made with AI.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
Yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
They're all samples that I made with AI.

Speaker 4 (36:28):
So basically it's like you go and you say what
type of song you want, and it spits it out
and then I'm sitting there and chopping it up like
it's a real joint. So I actually people have been
blowing me up asking about straight up.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
Like what is it? Is it Joe Desy, is it Silk?
Is it whatever?

Speaker 4 (36:44):
And people think like is this SWV or is it
is it Mary J And I'm just like, nah, it's
it's a fake song because if you really listen closely,
they're not actually saying nothing. They're not they're not actually
saying any worse because it's just like created the.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
Melody or whatever. But they're not actually saying any words
on the joint.

Speaker 3 (37:02):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
Yeah, I mean, well that's the thing with I mean,
it's scary from in front of like that.

Speaker 4 (37:08):
I mean, it sounds so good, yeah, but at the
same time, like especially with all this AI stuff, it's
like you got to make sure that you're utilizing it
before you got to use as a tool until it
comes to take your job, So I'm gonna try to
be as early as I can on that stuff.

Speaker 3 (37:21):
You know this is true. And also I mean sample costs.

Speaker 4 (37:26):
No real talk, yeah, because you know I came up
making sample beats, Like initially I want to be like
you know, the heat Makers just plays like you know
Kanye obviously, but like, yeah, once you get into the
industry and you get your first joint with a sample
on there, and you see how much they're hitting for,
you know, like even just like a basic interpolation. Can

(37:48):
you know you end up with ten percent of a
song that you wrote one hundred percentage because you interpolated something.
So I think this is a tool to kind of
work around that, like with anything else is imperfect. Like
I won''t say that day we probably how many did
we get to before we got ten fifteen joints?

Speaker 1 (38:05):
Now? Like it took like an hour to find I
was like, oh, this one's cool. So it takes some work.
But once you get one and you can flip it
the right way, like it's just you know, it's the
same as slipping anything else. Took me a little nap,
woke up, you at it? Yeah, he was checked out.
He came back. Oh shit, I got one.

Speaker 3 (38:27):
I love that. Okay.

Speaker 6 (38:28):
So five Star y'all came in hot with this record. Yeah,
I bet you thought you was a trophy. Now you're
watch him from the nosebleeds.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
Yes, had a way. No, it's just like, you know
the energy that y'all.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
I was really vibing with the projects and I got
to that then I'm like, wait a.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
Minute, that's what that's for the niggas man, That's yeah,
that was the way. You can't you can't relate to
that at all as a as a woman.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
No, I can't relate to it.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
But it's not nice.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
So high I was like, damn, damn kicking vision back in.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
No, I mean, yoh when the bars are flowing, And
that's just what we was on. I mean, obviously very
respectful young man, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (39:16):
But it started out as like a jazz, smooth jazz song. Yeah,
something just went in a different direction.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
Man.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
Production is phenomenal, the words, and you're like, oh my god,
they hate me.

Speaker 4 (39:27):
So Drew Drew was coming out of a particular situation
last year, so he had to have some ship to
get off his chest, and that's just what it was,
you know, sometimes it'd be like that, like, ain't nothing
fake on yours all coming from from the heart, so
you know, sometimes the heart can be a little little
means sometimes.

Speaker 3 (39:45):
Right, I'm not mad if I'm being honest.

Speaker 6 (39:47):
My favorite song right now is a neo soul record
by this girl name Kennedy Ryan, and the song is
called bum Ass Nigga.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
Damn you listen to.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
See it's so good.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
You're right, This one's for the guys.

Speaker 5 (40:06):
This a five star nigga. And if you want to
trade up on me for a bum ass nigga in
that song.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
Writer right there that I see, you really do this?

Speaker 3 (40:20):
Okay? Is this song based off a true story?

Speaker 1 (40:23):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah twenty of times.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
If the woman didn't realize that she made a mistake,
is she allowed to spend the block?

Speaker 1 (40:35):
I might have a whole different attitude. But I would
love I would love to see But no, I mean
I would I don't know. It depends on the situation
for real, Like, okay, you know what I mean. It
depends on how much I had already invested in that.

Speaker 5 (40:46):
Like if it was like a I caught that early then,
but if I already super invested in it, and I
gave it, and then I could see that this person was.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
Maybe willing to change, and I could believe that they
were then maybe.

Speaker 5 (40:58):
But more times than not, like nah, you know, sometimes
people grow and change, you know, so you don't everyone
just be like hell now unless they crossed the line
that you can't come back. It depends on the situation
for real, in that given situation that the song was about, fuck,
you know, coming back.

Speaker 3 (41:15):
From that from that, But okay, he had to clarify
that before I would want to drive through were back in,
We're back into it, talk to me about the creation
of that one.

Speaker 4 (41:27):
So that was so that one, it really came together
pretty quick. We was both in the room at the
same time. My boy Mike sent over that sample and
it was just crazy. But it was definitely one of
those where I instantly got like that old Kanye common
type of type of feel to it. But yeah, we
really honestly on this one, like once I kind of

(41:50):
had the basic structure to be, Drew did like two
passes of melodies and stuff knocked it out the park.
Like every single part was from like probably two minutes
singing and humming.

Speaker 5 (41:59):
So yeah, it was pretty quick because a lot of
times obviously doing to day stuff and then a song right, no,
out side of it, I have like a concept folder,
so I always like I have a folder full of
just like concepts of different things. When I'm sitting around
to day and I think of, oh, this person said overall,
don't let me write that word down or whatever. So
it's just like eighty pages and stuff. So that the

(42:19):
phrase drive through was in my concept folder. So like
I was doing the melodies and ship, I was like, okay,
it's kind.

Speaker 3 (42:25):
Of face with that, and then then it became it's
a good, very relatable. Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna jump to Gemini,
but I gotta react. What's your sign?

Speaker 1 (42:36):
I'm a Libra. First day.

Speaker 6 (42:42):
I gotta get I gotta get something for the levers
that come in here. I think, I'm I'm gonna make
sure this is lion livers and then I'm.

Speaker 3 (42:52):
Lying all their faces on it. And now you're at
it to it and the can okay, and did you
pin Gemini? I guess I should have liked with that.
Did you pin it?

Speaker 1 (43:05):
Yeah? Gemini did well. We wrote it. We wrote almost
everything together.

Speaker 3 (43:08):
What what is the just set set the mood for me?
Where are we at?

Speaker 5 (43:12):
Is this based off of I mean, that's just like
just a man just having undying adoration for a certain woman,
you know.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
What I mean?

Speaker 3 (43:20):
And is she really a Gemini or did you just
go with Gemini for the sake?

Speaker 5 (43:24):
I think it's just I think it's more for the
sake of the song. I don't know if we necessarily
had to really be about it. I mean it did
say you are such a sad when you're like two
side kind of type of thing.

Speaker 4 (43:32):
But it's more just goun key, wasn't that. I don't
want to, you know, put you out there, oh girl
Gemini at the time. Oh yeah, yeah, that's what I thought.

Speaker 3 (43:44):
He's trying to forget it.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
Mind it in the back of my brain. But that
is hilarious.

Speaker 3 (43:56):
Yeah. See, I about to say, if it's not about
Geminis that I won't drag your race and by race, and.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
I won't drag Wait, what do you know, there's nothing
to drag. Okay, I can see that dragon about balancing
my moon is leo.

Speaker 3 (44:13):
Okay, I give that. It's it's cool. I mean, we
accept you.

Speaker 5 (44:18):
You might be I'm the first day Leber, so I'm
right after the virgo. So I got a little bit
of both.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
Oh my god, you.

Speaker 3 (44:23):
Must not know. I can't stand you. I want to leave. No,
I actually love, but just leave. Ris is just a handful,
that's all.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
I can't disagree. I won't disagree with that objection, objection whatsoever.

Speaker 3 (44:40):
That that's hilarious. Okay, all right? Actually, and then I
do want to mention can't let go to I love
this one.

Speaker 6 (44:49):
It's sonically different from the other songs on the project,
which I feel like that one key probably gonna end
up being my favorite one after a while.

Speaker 3 (44:57):
But yeah, just talk to me about that one. Did
y'all like this record before?

Speaker 5 (45:02):
Yeah, that one came on super early in the process.
I feel like we almost already had that song before
we started.

Speaker 4 (45:07):
Yeah, before we really Yeah, I want to say we
made it right right before we drop a new And
so that's the only joint on here that was like
a little bit older.

Speaker 1 (45:16):
But I think, especially just lyrically from.

Speaker 4 (45:20):
The jump, like that was the one that we were like, Yo,
this is this is something special, just to how poetic
we were able to get with it. And two, like,
I've had so many people and I'm sure you have
to have related to that, you know what I'm saying
of you know, you're in an argument or whatever, but
and you in this relationship you have really deep but
like you feel you upset, but at the same time,

(45:41):
you know, it's like I'm not about to genesee immediately
leave or anything, you know.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
So I feel like it's been relatable for a lot
of people too, you know.

Speaker 3 (45:48):
Definitely, Yeah, definitely, I mean not relatable to me right now,
but no, definitely we.

Speaker 1 (45:58):
Need to talk now.

Speaker 3 (46:02):
No, I'm not there, but I do love the record
because even though I can't relate to it right now,
it's definitely been related before.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
And then, wait, what's my other question in regards to
this project, because you said that when I had the
skeleton for the record is when you started to put
together like the world visually. What were like some of
the earlier records that y'all had when you're like, all right.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
This is yeah, diamonds and pearls.

Speaker 4 (46:28):
So I feel like, because you know, I feel like
in every project we have like the one that's like
the breakthrough moment and then everything else kind of surrounds
out from On this one, I feel like it was
the choosing choosing was the one where like just the
track and the sonic texture of it and everything like that.

(46:49):
And two it was a big moment for us because
I feel like, you know, we're kind of we were
trying to figure out the next stuff, but like it
wasn't clicking, and we kind of switched up to the
workflow a little bit too, to where like instead of
trying to start everything from scratch like on in that moment,
like I started bringing it like more ideas, like and

(47:10):
that's how we used to do it back in the
early days too, or be like I mumble and sound
crazy on an idea and be able to pick it
apart and be like, oh this part site, let's build
on this.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
So choosing was one that where we kind of like
went back to that type of vibe.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
Have y'all recorded job studio sessions before we have?

Speaker 1 (47:27):
We have? But also like I don't know, I get
weird when I know people are filming and stuff like
it makes you think too much.

Speaker 4 (47:33):
Maybe I need to like I don't know, I know,
but no cameras around. Also, I've been doing this for
a long time, Like I don't know, Like you get
used to being in a particular headspace, but no, choosing.
Choosing was definitely a water shap.

Speaker 1 (47:49):
Wasn't a Gemini what oh God, the whole conversation. I'm like, yo, no,
she wasn't. We go back to I remember a birthday trip.
That's what I remember, some sort of birthday trip. That's
something that's something maybe I got in October.

Speaker 3 (48:11):
Yeah, so you're the problem problem looking at the problem like.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
This be okay, yeah, I'm in a cancer cancer relationships.

Speaker 3 (48:23):
That's that is emotional as fun.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
Yeah, I love it.

Speaker 3 (48:30):
I'm cancer.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
Oh yeah, okay, get Yeah, what's your regular joint at
the moon the other joint? Yeah, okay, you're like a leader.

Speaker 3 (48:40):
It's like spicy but emotional.

Speaker 4 (48:43):
So I always say, gets you with the cancer emotional
thing or sensitive, because like I feel like I don't
think of myself as like I'm a super emotional person.
But what I will say, And I had this an
old manager told me this back the day because we
were talking about sensitive, right, and he was like, no,

(49:03):
cancers feel things that other people don't feel. Yes, So
that makes more because there'll be a lot of times
I'll be like perceptive or something, you know what I'm
saying that I'll be like I notice I'm and pick.

Speaker 1 (49:14):
Up on something.

Speaker 4 (49:14):
Everybody's like, yo, you tripping, like you focusing on something
silly or whatever, but I'm just like I pick it
up on it. Yeah, So like Eve, even when it
comes to like because I'm always especially when it comes
to art and decisions, I'm always just like mister no, like,
but let's change it. Let's change that. But also because
like I'm picking up on little things on why things

(49:35):
might not work and maybe somebody else like nine percent
of people aren't really like worried about it, and you know,
it probably don't matter, but it matters to me. The
same with the production ship, where it's just like I'm
constantly dying. Yeah I could have been done, you know,
two weeks ago, but I'm still going.

Speaker 3 (49:50):
You know, is that driving you crazy? Is that driving
you crazy?

Speaker 1 (49:54):
You like? At first?

Speaker 5 (49:56):
It probably do know Sometimes first sometimes it's just like
like sometimes it's be certain ship that I'm just like
I can't even I know, I can't even ask this.
Nigga's definitely about to be like nah, and sometimes I
gotta just do ship without.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
No. But but it'd be both ways.

Speaker 4 (50:17):
I'm like, yo, get the idea out instead of that
idea when you're discussing ideas too many times, like a
lot of times, that's where it could die.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
It's like, yo, go do it and then let's see
how it turns out.

Speaker 3 (50:27):
You know. Okay, I love it. Now we're gonna play
a game okay, love Jones.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
Trivia about the movie.

Speaker 3 (50:40):
So you just have to guess who said these lines.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
Okay, you'd be one time.

Speaker 3 (50:45):
So huh.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
I've seen the movie once. It's a great movie. But
I'm not a repeat movie watcher. I don't do it
like like I will say, I watch a lot of stuff,
and I'm bad at names. I don't remember something.

Speaker 3 (51:00):
Okay, try to describe him or them the best of
your ability.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
Answer, Oh gosh, you're gonna funk this pop quiz.

Speaker 6 (51:08):
Okay, let me tell you something. This here, right now,
at this very moment, is all that matters to me.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
That one. I mean, that's that's what state right, Yes, yeah, yeah,
for sure, y'all.

Speaker 3 (51:27):
I'll be questioning my pros.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
No, no, no, okay, that's easy.

Speaker 3 (51:31):
Romance is about the possibility of the thing. You see.
It's about the time between when you first meet her
and when you first make love to her.

Speaker 4 (51:42):
That's the friend, the friend. I can't remember his name though.
In the movie I never remember, right, Yeah, let me.

Speaker 3 (51:49):
Pick the obvious ones.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
But no, that one's Tom. I was gonna say that
just to be safe when I was wrong at least
one question. Right, all right, we're flung king. Let's just
be friends, surety neil mm hmm, you got that. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:11):
You always want what you want when you want it.
Why is everything on your terms?

Speaker 1 (52:17):
Nel?

Speaker 3 (52:18):
Yes, okay, this one is not a main character. All
we have is all these years and it's just not
enough anymore.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
The friend, this, nigga said, the friend, the friend. You
know when the married friend, the friend, the married friend.

Speaker 3 (52:49):
I think that's a good description the married friend. Yes,
it is the married friend. Actually, no, it's not the
married friend. It's not the married friend.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
The other friend.

Speaker 3 (52:57):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (52:59):
Oh yeah, this one can't make it out the other plane.

Speaker 3 (53:07):
Bro, let's just do one more.

Speaker 1 (53:11):
So that's three, right that I got. I told you
they don't matter. In the movie.

Speaker 4 (53:15):
I never remember the character's name. I never I remember
the actor's name, but I don't know the characters name.

Speaker 3 (53:21):
Love is what you make and whom you make it?

Speaker 1 (53:30):
Sam state again, No, Nel, why are we whiffing this
is terrible.

Speaker 3 (53:37):
All right, So we're gonna go into a new game.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
A new game, new game one time.

Speaker 3 (53:46):
Yeah, I'm gonna need you to watch that ship on
the plane.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
Okay, No, I've watched it. I don't watch it again.
You know how much content I consume every day like
this problem? This is a number? That one? Who said
that one?

Speaker 3 (54:00):
The friend?

Speaker 1 (54:01):
Yo? Yeah, you know you don't even know Josie.

Speaker 3 (54:06):
Okay, but all right, let's get into a regular schedule programming.

Speaker 1 (54:14):
I got three right on now.

Speaker 3 (54:15):
The craziest thing that oh this is feeling the blank. Okay,
questions that need answers, all right. The craziest thing that
has happened to me on tour had to be.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
When oh uh, we'll let you go first. I can
think about this. I know the craziest thing to happen
to him, But I'm trying to think what happened to me?
What happened to me that time you got yanked off
the stage?

Speaker 3 (54:37):
That one time somebody grabbed you off the stage.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
I did fall off the That was the craziest. I
fell off the stage.

Speaker 4 (54:46):
I was going by like clad, you know, hitting hands
and stuff like that. I give it five and some
some dude like grabbed me and pulled.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
Me off the stage. And it was one of the
things that I dropped my mic. That ship echoed throughout
the whole the whole ship.

Speaker 3 (54:59):
But John need security, bro.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
We had a little something, but it wasn't that is crazy.

Speaker 3 (55:05):
What he wanted a picture.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
I don't know what he want.

Speaker 4 (55:09):
I think he just wanted chaos, because yeah, he just
wanted to function it up because like there was no.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
Reason for him to yank me off the stage, right then,
no reason. Crazy.

Speaker 3 (55:19):
Yeah, it's yours.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
Better remember than me when it comes to you like that.
I'm trying to think of crazy. And I know a
few stories in the wild man.

Speaker 4 (55:29):
I'm trying to I don't want to retell the story,
but we definitely there's a lot of wrong city.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
Oh, I would say the wrong city, wrong Diego.

Speaker 5 (55:43):
I said, San Francis in San Francisco said San Diego,
like twice you are no, no, no, no, no, San Antonio,
I say, like Dallas or some ship.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
Let me let me, let me fill out these stories
a little bit.

Speaker 4 (55:56):
So the first time was in San Antonio and so
we we were on the Brison tour and this is
maybe our fifth, sixth show.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
But like I forget we was.

Speaker 4 (56:08):
We was kind of like Baker back and forth before
the show and then ran out like okay, you know,
we're gonna go do the show and didn't like yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
Coming before the show was starting. Yeah, we was definitely
drinking the guy those early days. We didn't know any better.
So he gets out there and the first thing he
does like, hey yo, Dallas, and our first song was
long as hell. I was just wrongly confident. It was

(56:37):
like it was it was.

Speaker 4 (56:38):
It was long at hell, like you so four minutes
straight of just boom. But he didn't have no time
to apologize because we had to perform the first song
and then and then after that, like he's like, my bad, y'all,
My bad, y'all. I was born in San Antonio and true,
you know.

Speaker 1 (56:54):
But then they got like it was like a half yeah,
half boom, but no, that was they were not.

Speaker 3 (57:02):
With us for the entire funny as hell.

Speaker 1 (57:06):
I don't know if they did.

Speaker 4 (57:07):
And then the other one was, I mean, this was
San Diego, San Francisco, so in San Antonio, Bill Bill
Graham opening for Bryson again, and so yeah, this one
is a little more unforgivable because he said San Diego
three times.

Speaker 3 (57:25):
Three times, just disrespect.

Speaker 1 (57:28):
Three times on the third on the third one, I
tried to dismiss it.

Speaker 4 (57:33):
My bad.

Speaker 1 (57:33):
We love the bay. He's been drinking too much hate.
That's my fault. And they not, They weren't trying to
hear it. But they still had a good performance. Though
we still had a good performance. Yeah, no, it was
a good It was a great performance. Chorus of booze
like just booing remembers a little bit more negatively.

Speaker 5 (57:53):
Because I remember was in the beginning, but usually once
we start performing, like, I don't remember it booing the
rest of the time, especially on that Dante's Creek when
I hit that note and is unstoppable, is unstoppable, So
I remember it so positively.

Speaker 3 (58:09):
But outside from making music, what is your hobbies?

Speaker 1 (58:13):
I hike a lot, nice and we both love watching
sports like basketball, so I so I run.

Speaker 4 (58:23):
I love to read, and I just recently the past
two years, I started coaching basketball. So I coached my
daughter's team. We want to go city championship. And sure
I'm coaching my my son's team. Pee weed is for
four to six four to six, So I got my
little pee wee nuggets that that's been like a cool
new thing for me because I always wanted to find

(58:44):
a way to like, you know, connect with the kids
and you know, put values in them as best I can.
Obviously I'm doing it with my kids, but like it's
been a new exciting thing for me because I get
to like, you know, really teach them and watch them
grow and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (58:56):
Yeah, it's been great. I love that. Asked me if
I want to be assistant coach, I said, I had.

Speaker 6 (59:04):
It's okay, I'm I'm that friend of the friend group too,
just so you know it's cool. Blank is a movie
I can watch with the sound off?

Speaker 1 (59:13):
Uh? Yeah? I love Jones.

Speaker 3 (59:21):
Next time, I don't even bring this, nigga because let
me think.

Speaker 5 (59:26):
I don't know what the movie because that's kind of
like psychotic to watch a movie what's the SoundOff?

Speaker 3 (59:30):
So so, And it's okay if you're not a movie person,
but I feel like there is a joint.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
That I can watch.

Speaker 4 (59:39):
So there's my favorite movie and I'll go key. You
find a way to quote it like three four times
a day. It's training day.

Speaker 3 (59:47):
The fact that you find ways to quote it, it's funny.

Speaker 1 (59:49):
Oh yeah, No, no, I mean this is peaked in zel.

Speaker 4 (59:52):
There's quotable stuff throughout the entire movie, like you know
my nigga, like or even if it's just like you
know some of the other people throughout like the movie is.
So I won't do all the quotes because some of
the coach is crazy. But but yeah, no, I love
that movie and I watch it all the time. Actually,
he's Antoine fo call did the did that movie? He's
doing the Michael movie.

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
Ah.

Speaker 5 (01:00:13):
Yeah, So you like a Harry Potter drunk that's crazy,
like a Harry Potter. Those are those movies I've seen
multiple times.

Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
I can see that, but you can see that I carry.

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
Never I've never seen a Harry Potter movie that blows
my mind what he said.

Speaker 3 (01:00:31):
And Lord of the Rings neither right, I haven't seen.

Speaker 6 (01:00:34):
I just watched all of Harry Potter's like each movie
this year last year.

Speaker 5 (01:00:39):
Oh really Yeah, that was like a big part of
my childhood. So it like throws me off when people say.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
That I read them books. I read like five of
the books. I just never watched movies, never read a book.

Speaker 3 (01:00:47):
But I grew up in the black households where it's
like you can't watch Harry Potter. You can't go trigger treated.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
Oh I see for real?

Speaker 6 (01:00:55):
Yeah no, no, it's okay, I've seen it now I'm
caught up. They probably just don't hit the same as
like the moment when you live in.

Speaker 3 (01:01:04):
Love Jones is.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
Talk about the album or the movie album. Love Jones
is sexy. Love Jones is innovative. R and B. I
Love Jones is a new introduction to the creative chemistry,
which is day. Yeah, I'd say Love Jones is tribute

(01:01:31):
to Chicago. Chicago, R and B.

Speaker 3 (01:01:34):
I love that very well said with my first check,
I did blink about a hot tub. That is so random.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
Yeah, my first first pub check. I remember this hot
talk I want about a hotel because.

Speaker 5 (01:01:56):
I wanted a hot talk so bad for so long,
and I just I got the money, so how much
the hote was I could get that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
I got the hotel, No, because I left the house
and it was like an inflatable giant. Yeah. I remember
asking him. I was like, yo, what what happened to
the hotel?

Speaker 5 (01:02:13):
Left it there? And I said, y'all can have it,
and they said we didn't want it, we don't want it.
And I said, well, I don't want to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
Yeah, just spend on that hot time like four bands. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:02:26):
See, the thing with Drew is sometimes like you ask
him how much something costs, and he'll give you one price,
and then like six months later, it'll slip out that
it was actually like three times a price. No, no,
I'm saying I think I want to say when he
first told me it was, oh yeah, it was like
fifteen hundred. I found on Craigslist for fifteen hundred, and

(01:02:48):
then it like slow time, and then I was.

Speaker 1 (01:02:51):
Just like nine or ten, but I thought it was
in the four to five ran. Yeah, you don't get
one price, and then he'll accidentally.

Speaker 5 (01:02:59):
Because maybe I wouldn't have spent that much on something
that really, so maybe maybe it was, but.

Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
It was definitely in the thousands. Yeah it was winter
time too.

Speaker 3 (01:03:09):
Yeah that's funny. And then how about you.

Speaker 4 (01:03:14):
All right, So my first big check, so I did
a Kelly Clarkson song in twenty eleven, so like twenty
twelves and the royalty checks, like really fire started coming
in and I was just so in my sneaker head
phase that like I bought like probably like five pairents
of Jordan's like exclusive types like and also went down

(01:03:35):
to flight Club and bought some j s. I know
that was expensive as yeah, flight Club that was that
was like my first little spurs was like yea, I
just I gotta get I gotta get some I got
some Jordan Forrest the Bretts.

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
Honest, yeah no, there wasn't. There was like fire but
I mean that's in like twenty twelve thirteen.

Speaker 3 (01:03:57):
Money is okay, Yeah, I don't like those shoes be
like damn there a thousand.

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
Yeah no for sure, thinking.

Speaker 3 (01:04:05):
All right, I ain't checking out pockets is nothing, but.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
No, look I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:04:11):
I don't like paying more to read. I like to
find sh it on sale, like I'm always I'm a
cheap skate key.

Speaker 3 (01:04:15):
But if I can't get it when it dropped, I'm
not paying retail.

Speaker 4 (01:04:18):
The only time is if it's like something super super
exclusive that I can always That's the only time I'll
ever pay more than like the basic.

Speaker 6 (01:04:24):
You know that's rare understood, all right, So love Jones out. Now,
are we getting a tour this year? Are we getting
a New York City tour this year? I guess like,
are you guys going to hit that is the hope.

Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
That is the hope I would I would lean more
towards yes than no, but be figuring it out now.
But New York is definitely at the very like tippy
top of you need you.

Speaker 6 (01:04:47):
I don't even care if you don't, if you skip
all the other cities on the East, at least come
to New York.

Speaker 3 (01:04:51):
I was so jealous with the last tape.

Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
Yeah, we definitely, it's no no question we're gonna be
out here.

Speaker 3 (01:04:58):
Okay, amazing.

Speaker 6 (01:05:01):
Any more videos dropping off the project or anything else
we should look forward.

Speaker 5 (01:05:04):
To, and we always we got we got crash over
here in the back. We always over here shooting and
making plenty of little content and clips and stuff like that.
Whether it will be a big bull length music video
or not, it's to be decided. But there's gonna be
tons of content though, Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:05:20):
No, you know, we were just being creative with the music.
And also too, I'm excited just to see how people react.
I feel like that'll kind of help to God like
what we do creatively with the music next too. So
I'm just excited for it to be out in the world.

Speaker 3 (01:05:33):
You and I both, Yeah, y'all know, I'm stand thank
you guys for coming.

Speaker 1 (01:05:38):
I appreciate you for having It's always a good convo,
of course.

Speaker 6 (01:05:41):
And then just shout out your gram and let people
know where to follow you if they don't already.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
What's up. I'm Drew Love. You can follow me at
Drew Love or at the at they account as well.

Speaker 4 (01:05:51):
Yep, I'm Tay from They at Tay from Day and
then obviously just make sure you hit that at Day
the group.

Speaker 3 (01:05:57):
Tune in Guys Love Jones out now.

Speaker 2 (01:05:59):
Peace,