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October 9, 2019 65 mins

In Episode 3, Cody, Katy, and Robert do a deep dive into Joe Biden's history. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Worst Year Ever, a production of I Heart
Radio Welcome Everything, so don't oh heck and wow. We

(00:22):
welcome to the Worst Year Ever with me whose name
is Cody Johnston and me whose name is Katie Stall
and me whose name is Cody Johnson, damnit rock. So
first this for hours? What's the who? Under pressure? You
can't even who you? Who? Who? He? I am? Robert Evans,

(00:44):
My my name tag is telling me there. Yeah, It's
a good thing you hang onto those name tags and lanyards,
otherwise I'd never know who I was or who you
pretend to be. It's like I always say, lanyards are
the only things that separate us from the animals because
it's similar to a leash. But anyway, should be happy

(01:06):
for that. Um, do you want to do a quick
update on I would love that what we talked about
in previous episodes. We we Jake Tapper Robert quite lot
to say about our buddy Jay Tapped and he's just
he's recently been doing this charity thing with Scott Adams

(01:28):
and now Scott Adams the Dilbert guy. Yes, Dilbert's dad father,
Dogbert's father, Kappert's father, Bird Bird is there a bird Bert?
Well there should be, there should be. Um. But so yeah,
so Jake's doing this thing with Scott Adams of all people,
like a collaboration. Yeah. For a week, Jake is writing

(01:49):
and drawing Dilbert. This is a comic strip. Have you
seen any of them? Um? I saw one. It was
It wasn't bad in terms of like the art he
could he drew, He drew them. It didn't look like
Scott Adams drew the Dilbert characters, but it looked like
I was like, oh, that's someone trying to draw Dilbert.

(02:09):
There's not a high bar to drawing Dilbert characters, which,
in fairness to Scott Adams, he would be the first
to admit, Um, it was easy to make the Dilbert
shaped pool that he has in his home. Um, that's
not made up. Uh. This is such a like a
strange tangent for him. It's very weird cool because like

(02:30):
Scott Adams is like pretty grifty and like pretty I
want to read I want to read a paragraph about
Scott Adams from Rational Wicky real quickly, just to set
you guys up for what what kind of man Scott
Adams is in two thousand and eleven, Adams admitted that
he had used a sock puppet account called Planned Chaos
to defend himself. In a MetaFilter discussion criticizing a piece

(02:50):
he wrote for The Wall Street Journal as Planned Chaos,
Adams wrote, he Adams has a certified genius i Q
and that's hard to hide, he asked. He asked attractors,
is it Adams is enormous success at self promotion that
makes you jealous and angry? On his blog, Adams defended
this act of self aggrandizement, stating conflict of interest is

(03:11):
like a prison that locks in both truth and the lies.
One work around for that problem is to change the messenger.
That's where an alias comes in handy. When you remove
the appearance of conflict of interest, it allows others to
listen to the evidence without judging. You know, that's the
kind of logic that only a high, highly intellectual human
can put out. So I also want to note that

(03:31):
literally three hours after the Garlic Gilroy Garlic Festival mash shooting,
Scott Adams put up an ad for his cryptocurrency based
app called win Hub, which was like based on basically
was telling people like Hey, if you witnessed the attack,
don't just give up your your like just don't don't
talk about your experiences to the news for free, sign
up on this app and sell your experiences witnessing a

(03:53):
mash shooting. Yeah, um yeah, is there enough to do
it behind the bastards on him? Probably at there definitely is. Yeah.
I hate to admit it, but when I was a kid,
I was a huge Scott Adams, Like I read his
books and stuff on business. Um, you're a interesting kid. Yeah,

(04:17):
I've got a shift to where like the beginning of Dilbert,
the hero was Dilbert yeah, and slowly shifted to the
boss being the hero and like all the employees are
the bad guys really weird a little bit. So I've
been aware of the trajectory. One of the first things
I ever read from him, and one of his like

(04:37):
early books, was his theory that like, one of the
most important things to understand. This is something I actually
still hold to. One of his one of the most
important things to like grasp to be in a like
a decent person is that everybody is incompetent in the
vast majority of things that they encounter. Like people are dumb.
Even the most intelligent and like trained people are dumb
the majority of their day and the majority of problems

(05:00):
they encounter. And I think that's like a good thing
to keep in mind. He just completely lost that at
some point and became like a hard right trenched de grifter.
It's a weird evolution, Like real wealth is bad for people. Yeah,
you shouldn't. You shouldn't give people hundreds of millions of dollars.
It's bad for them. What a time to be alive?

(05:23):
Good for Jake Um who was pointed out like, well,
you know, do you know Scott m Does you like
the kind of stuff he does? Like that's kind of
messed up you're doing this Jake, And he was like,
what's for charity? Okay, okay, not the point taps Yeah, um,
As many people pointed out, Um, I can't imagine you
would have the same reaction if someone did a charity
with Louis Paragon or any of the other people that

(05:45):
he criticize. But anyway, up about Jake than that, what
are we talking about today? Who we're talking about? Joseph
Robinette Biden Jr. Hell yeah, Joe Biden's Joe Biden I'm Joe.
Wonderful things to say about Uncle Joe. Well, the one

(06:05):
thing we know about him is that he's like a cool,
chill guy, Like if you read onion articles for eight years,
it's just a cool dude. I know he gives good massages.
I for one, admire the way that his eye randomly
fills with blood. Yeah, I like to see that from
a presidential candidate. I love his teeth. Yeah, the greatest

(06:26):
hits were already there, all reasons to vote for him. Yeah,
and uh, if he has voted for well, we'll see
how it goes. Um. We we're gonna talk about We're
gonna talk about this um, this person, and not necessarily
like his policies, you know, but more who he is,
what he said, what he's done, and how that will

(06:48):
inform how goes. Like why is it going to be
the worst year ever if Joe sticks around? I mean,
let's be fair, it's going to be the worst year
ever no matter who wins exactly name and this isn't
a competition. We're not saying like this is the worst
version of the definitely worst year, but it might be,
but it might be. Um. Joseph Robinett Biden Jr. I

(07:11):
was born. Yeah, what kind of name is that? It's
a fine name. Don't name name. It's not a great name.
It's not great. Two thirds of the name are acceptable.
Robin isn't it Robinett inherently the female Robin Like, if
you're going by it doesn't matter. I'm not trying to
shame his name. It's fine, it's fine. It's just got

(07:32):
we got so much. I feel like maybe maybe is
a little worse than his middle name. Okay, yeah, let's
not pile on too soon. Okay, okay, okay, Wait what
is it? What is the meaning of Robinette? The meaning
of Robinett? It's same bright? What same bright? I mean

(07:58):
he's famous, Yeah, he's he was he was for Roberts. Sorry, Robert,
Robin at Evans, Robin Evans. I don't like that, Robin
I am. I am not okay with this anyway. I

(08:20):
don't have to tell you other than it's happening. I'll
tell you what's happening is I'm going to have to
bring a podcasting machete on the road in case people
call me that when we're doing a live show. All right,
I'm going to be the mediator here, I withdraw my claim.
All right, you should get through a sentence of what
he's prepared. Rober Jr. His last name is Biden. He's

(08:46):
born in scrant Pennsylvania. And already I'm expecting, like the
cast of the Office to do like a campaign video
for him in like October, and I'm dreading it and honestly, yeah,
nobody wants to see that, but it's gonna happen. Right.
If you took Joe Biden and put him on the Office,
he would fit right in. Feel like like that is

(09:10):
the show for Joe Biden. Yeah, I mean he was
on Parks and Rack so as himself. Um, anyway, he
was born and then he had a life the end. Um. No.
So there's there's a lot to say about Biden, his record,
his time as a senator and vice president, a lot
of tragedy, and his personal life. Um, but we can't
go through every single event or every one of his votes,

(09:31):
you know, Like we could talk about his vote for
the Iraq war and his current claim that he regrets
the vote, but as soon as the war started in
early two thousand three, he was against it, despite not
speaking out against it until November two thous five when
he said his vote was a stake. But we're not
going to talk about that. We could, No, we're not,
but we're not. We're not going to talk about all that. Um.
So we gonna go through like certain moments, certain aspects

(09:52):
of Joe Biden that illustrate how intensely will be the
worst year ever, no matter what. Yes, and so yeah,
this isn't to say his nomination would make it the
worst year, but it's going to be a miseruleislog um. So,
Joe Biden is a fighter and the first and foremost Um.
He gets knocked down, he gets up again. Uh. Some
might call him stubborn, but the stick tuitiveness seems to
stem from his parents and his experience with bullying growing up.

(10:15):
He's bullied a lot um. His dad would tell him, Champ,
the measure of a man is not how often he's
knocked down, but how quickly he gets up. Now, Cody,
correct me if I'm wrong, But is it true that
Joe Biden's parents were the punk band Chumbawamba was? God,
I'm so glad you brought it back to that Chumba.
And when you get knocked back down, you get back

(10:36):
up again. Yeah, his parents Chumba and Wamba. Joe Biden
is the inspiration for Chumbawamba. Okay, absolutely, Um, that's cannon.
That's why he always drinks a whiskey drink and then
a lagger drinks and then a cider drink. He drinks
a lot of drinks. He's the very thirsty man. He
thinks the songs that remind him of the good times
and the songs that remind him of the bad times.
And then because he's like kind of losing it, I

(11:00):
still don't think where we repeat in spoken word version.
The entirety of Chumba Womba's discography is that why it's
going to be the worst. Okay, okay, okay, okay, Okay,
you're gonna have to keep on track here. Um, But
we know now what his father told him. His father

(11:22):
Chumba Um and his his mother Womba would often say, UM,
bloody their nose so you can walk down the street
the next day. There's no record of his mother telling
him to bloody his own eyeball. But you know, sometimes
you have to improvise. UM. And I bring this up
because uh, I think that Joe will never drop out
of this race. Um, and this sort of speaks to that.

(11:44):
Barack Obama literally told him, you don't have to do this, Joe. Um,
but he's doing it because he thinks Trump is a
bully and he's the bully stopper that's gonna stop him. Um.
He's got that drive and the sort of idea in
his head and I don't think that's gonna go away,
despite him also being really tired all the time, you know,
like right, Like he's got that stubbornness and he's like,
I know I'm gonna do it, but also he's sleepy, Joe,

(12:06):
he's tired all the time. Um. Recently, he was told
in an interview, you know a lot of people want
big change. They want they're looking for big change. Um,
so why don't you make your case to them? And
his response was, it's up to them to the side.
And then he was pushed, He's like, well, but make
your case to them, and his response was, it's up
to them to this side. He was asked a third

(12:28):
time to make his case and he said, for a
third time, it's up to them to decide. How am
I supposed to decide if you don't make your case? Yeah, um.
And there's another place where he's talking about's like, hey,
you know, if you like what I'm saying, vote for me,
uh and work for it. And if you don't vote
for the other guy, Oh that's a hard pitch, a
real a real fighter we got in Joe. It's just

(12:49):
evidence that like, in a better world, Joe Biden would
be a very acceptable Republican politician. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
in a in a better world, like everyone's attitude towards
politics would be that where it's like, well, okay, one
side or the other winds, but we all trust that
nobody is trying to destroy each other or like take
each other's rights away or like put huge chunks of

(13:11):
the country in prison. But we just don't live in
that world. And Joe Biden, I don't think realizes that
he's um. And if if, honestly, if he ran as
a Republican, it would accomplish the thing he wants to do,
Like he wants to save the country and save the
nation and bring you know, bring us back from the
Trump is um and save the Republican Party and all
this stuff. And the answer to that isn't to do

(13:34):
like Obama too, you know, because the one didn't work
out for party has stayed pretty consistent in terms of
like where their center is, while the Republican Party has
moved farther and farther right over the years. And Biden

(13:54):
seems to think that, well, if we keep doing that,
if we keep the Democrats not moving far left at all,
then the Republicans will come to their senses. Whereas if
he ran as a Republican, which he could because a
lot of his stuff aligns with them, then that's how
you save the Republican Party. If you actually want to
do that, introduce I'm a reasonable one. I think Donald

(14:17):
Trump is bad and I'm going to help you. Um.
And then you can have the Democrats turn a little left.
But that's not gonna happen anyway. It's just starting a
little boy. Um. But I also bring up bullying, um,
and how you know you gotta you gotta spit your
teeth at bullies. Because Biden also struggled with a stutter
when he's a child, Um, they would call him dash.
It's kind of a cool name, but I think it's

(14:40):
because of the dashes. They would appear like if you
were to or write out a stutter, you have dashes
in between the first letter. That's why I guess it's
better than ellipses. Yeah. Um, but they'd also call him
Joe impedimenta because children are cruel and really stupid like not.
I mean, that's a really a fairly big word for

(15:02):
a child to wrap their head around. It's a big
word to know. But not like there's nothing clever then
these kids, these kids, Sun do you guys should have
worked up that a little better? Good the same page
with these these stupid kids. Um. He overcame the impediment
by memorizing and here citing along passages of poetry out
loud in front of a mirror, So I would say,
right off the bat. Uh, kind of a one up

(15:22):
on the current president. Um. The reason I bring this
up is that he's Um, he's kind of stuttering a
lot again these days. UM, And I don't like the
idea of just making fun of a guy for a stutter,
especially when he struggled with growing up. But at the
same time, he has shown some difficulties speaking quite a

(15:44):
bit regularly all the time. Sometimes he looks frustrated, sometimes
he looks confused. Sometimes he pauses for what seems like
an eternity and then finally says NATO because he's trying
to think of Nato. Um. And it just seems like
with Yeah, I feel like that has less to do
with his stutter and more to do with you know,

(16:07):
like cognitive decline. It seems like, but I think they're
I think they're intertwined. I think it's sort of related. Um,
sort of heading towards the situation that could be two
men with visibly declining cognitive abilities sort of struggling to
insult each other back and forth. And that sounds not great,
sounds awful, sounds sounds you know, uh, it sounds unbearable. Yeah, yeah, Um,

(16:32):
it's sort of this sort of confused, frustrated nature in
which he talks. And if we're talking about the next
year being bad, I just can't get out of my head.
That's like, well, Donald Trump is really bad at speaking
and uh a bully, And whenever Joe Biden is challenged,
he gets flustered and can't get the words out and

(16:54):
you can see him sort of struggling to do it.
And that doesn't seem like it's going to go. This
isn't at this point, He's not the person I want
on stage debating Trump top even agrees to debate. He's
never been like a great debater. He's a moderately acceptable legislator. Um.
But he's not this kind of guy who can like

(17:14):
get up and a good way to scare. He he's
Barack Obama with that any kind of like charisma, Yeah, absolutely, yeah, yeah.
Or you know, I've seen people like when you're watching
him speak, you're worried that he's not going to find
his point. You're worried that he's not going to stick
the landing, and that is not usually right. Yeah, that's

(17:35):
usually what happens is he doesn't Yeah, he'll either yeah,
say something that's not true at all, or like something
that's a vague platitude that kind of has something to
do with what was being asked, or just something out
of left field, has nothing to do with what was
being asked. Um. And that's not great because we already
have that guy in the office. Or if he gets cornered,
he feels he is immediately defensive. Yeah. Anyway, it's he

(17:59):
doesn't deal with being challenged well, which again we already have. Um.
So it's not great. Um and um, we're acting to
take a quick break for some ads. When we come back,
we're going to talk about something. I think everyone's been
waiting for. Corn pop, corn pop, corn pop, corn pops.

(18:20):
It's corn Pop. I think we should state that this
show is partly sponsored by the concept of breakfast. Okay,
so yeah, eat some corn pops yourself while you listen
to Joe Biden's tail of corn Popget everything. Well that

(18:49):
was that was delicious. Those ads were delicious. I hope
it was something delicious and nutritious that we are pivoting
back from. Um. I just can't stop thinking corn pops,
and I'm very excited for this story you're about to tell.
This story is about cereal. Yeah, yeah, favorite, Mr Cornpop.
I think we all have heard that people want to assume.

(19:13):
So sort of what we were talking about earlier about
his Joe Biden's ability to speak on topics. Uh, this
sort of dovetails nicely into that. Uh. Corn Pop was
a young African American man in a gang called the Romans.
Biden was working at a pool during the summer, as
he puts it, to better understand the black community. Yeah great. Uh,

(19:36):
he apparently insulted corn Pop, who was like causing trouble
impairing him to a female swimmer. Right, he was bouncing
on the high from the eighteen forties. Yeah, and the
joke is that women swim. Yeah, yeah, it's hilarious. Another
the topic is sort of dove tails into the problems

(19:57):
with Joe Biden. But yeah, so he insulted Cornpop very
loudly and embarrassed him. Uh, and corn Pop got mad
um as all members of gangs do, and threatened to
you know, they were gonna they were gonna have a
scuffle outside. Um so a rumble. It was the seven
it was the sixties, right, it was. It's a rumbold yea. Yeah,

(20:19):
like you gotta watch out, You're going to get knife exactly.
And so Joe started snapping his fingers and then he
got a he got a chain for the big battle
for the turf and uh, basically he apologized very loudly
to corn Pop, like, I'm sorry, I embarrassed you. That
was uncalled for, but like you can't you can't, you
can't do what you were doing. And I'm gonna if

(20:40):
you come at me, I'm gonna wrap this chain around
your head. Uh. And they sort of they made up, uh,
and then he said they had his back the rest
of the back, the rest of the summer. Um. So
then the two rode off into the sunset um and
everyone loved this seemingly obviously made up story that a
politician would say. You know, you're just like, okay, yeah,

(21:01):
they have to got this weird story that sort of
relates to what was being said, even though this didn't
have anything to do with what was being said at
the time. Um but plot twist, stop the credits. It's true. Uh,
corn Pop is a real person. Uh, and he was
in a real gang gangs back then. We're just more
like like groups of friends who like kind of got
in the fight sometimes. It was just like a hang
out thing. It wasn't. Yeah, um but Corpop's real name

(21:24):
was William L. Morris. He died at the age of
seventy three with family by his side. He wasn't again
called the Romans. The former mayor of Wilmington's Dennis Williams,
confirmed this story back in He was actually told about
the Cornpop incident at the time, the day after it happened,
so he knew about it. This is a thing that happened.

(21:44):
No one can confirm the altercation afterwards with the threats
of the chain around the head, because you know, like
when you're in a fight and you're like, when to
wrap his chain around your head, you go for the
You go for the head, not like like with a chain,
you might go for the neck, like, but not the head. No, no,
But Biden knows how to take on bullies. Um. So

(22:04):
I will say, if there's a single candidate on the
Democratic bench that I trust to know how to get
into a street fight, it's Joe Biden. About yeah, I say,
um m hmmld her own for sure. Just give that
woman a stapler and she will she'll take you down. God,
I would love to see like a just a no

(22:25):
holds barred m m a fight between Amy Klobuchar and
Joe Biden. That would really that would really get I
think we can organize that. If we get that sweet
sweet corn pops money, I think we can make that happen.
Give her a straight racer, gift Joe a bike chain.
What happens, this is happening you heard here first and last,

(22:45):
because it's not happening. Um, but jokes on you, America,
because corn pop is real. How dare you question Joe
Biden of all people. But I thought the so the
real issue I thought with the corn pop thing wasn't
necessarily they're like, oh, this is like a fake story,
but it was the fact that the story was told. Yes, yeah,
Like aside from the fact that it's it's it's like

(23:06):
one of those rambling stories you about, like putting an
onion on your belt you might hear from Grandpa Simpson um.
And so there's that element to it which I think
is gonna come up with Biden a lot sort of
rambles on like what does this have to do with anything? Man?
Why are you doing this? And it's clearly like he's
got these stock things in his head that he comes
back to all the time, like politicians do. But I

(23:27):
think there's something with him where it's like, if I
don't know what I'm gonna say, I got to go
back to my corn pop story. I for me, part
of what it is is like Biden thinks of himself
as being a real friend African Americans. He considers himself
like he knows what's up with the black community, and well,
can you think of anything more woke than being told

(23:49):
vaguely by someone that a black man you insulted, has
a knife and then immediately threatening them with a chain.
You know, when you hit it like that, I can't
think that is wokeness in a nudge shell. That's Biden Widen.
That's Biden's woken is. It's just like that. That's really
what bugs me about this story. Like it you just

(24:09):
got these blinders on as to what why what he's
saying is int appropriate, you know what I mean? And like,
in a way, it seems like they were friends and
like the community were you Like it became a funny story,
especially as he became a politician. But that doesn't mean
that he understands the black community. It doesn't mean that
he's an advocate for them, you know what I mean.

(24:30):
It's just something that he can share that's makes him
seem foxie. Also, like two things can be true. Joe
Biden can in that day and in his his early
time and office have been compared to the rest of
the people in a similar position in Congress, better on
some of those issues like relating to the black community
than other people, particularly conservatives, And Joe Biden can still

(24:53):
be very much behind on that ship and contributed to
some really deeply problematic and toxic policies that negatively impact exactly,
Like both of those things can be true. The world's complicated,
but he specifically seems incapable of receiving that kind of
criticism or acknowledging it. And that is why it's danger

(25:13):
to me because a lot of people are like, well,
I'm I'm actively evolving, you know. We see a lot
of kids that have that, but not him. He doesn't
seem to grow a change, and he just thinks he's great.
Yeah and right, and like even sort of pointing to
these sort of things that like, well if you said
this forty years ago, maybe right, Um, but he just
doesn't seem to quite get it. It's really tone deaf.

(25:36):
Also told the story like surrounded by black children talking
about like oh yeah, these gangs, these gangs back in
a day. Um. Although so it was like he has
told this literally the pool that it happened at it
was being renamed for for him, not the corn pop
community pool. Huh yeah, um, missed opportunity, missed opper tunity

(26:00):
for sure. Um. But to sort of speak to what
you both were saying, this is sort of it's not
with the times. He's just an old man. That sort
of stuck um, and he sort of has you know,
he's saying, you know, I did this in hopes of
learning more about the black community, and the lesson he
wants to relay involves a disrespectful gang member who's going
to cut him up until he like talk to him

(26:21):
and threatened him and then things got better. And it's
like it's kind of like like dangerous minds, you know. Yeah,
and it illustrates his view on this whole race issue, um,
which I think I think it's it just kind of
seems like he's saying, the lesson I learned about the
black community is that you can deal with any issue
by threatening them with the chain. Yeah, like that's that's

(26:42):
that was how it went down. Um, even though he
did apologize in that moment too, but like it was
a moment of violence. Yeah. Um. And this sort of
I think it's illustrated also, and other stuff he says,
like more recently he's on the debate stage beat up
Donald Trump or oh well that um, I mean, but
he does have that sort of violent rhetoric of like

(27:04):
I'm gonna I want to beat him up, which is like, well,
that's also what Trump says it's not what we need anyway. Um.
But reason on the debate stage, he was asked about
like how America can address its history of slavery, but
like I see of slavery in America, and he sort
of again went on this long rant that culminated him
in him talking about how parents need to like, you know,

(27:24):
leave the record player on for the kids, and now
we have to get like social workers involved in black
communities to teach them how to be good parents, not
the ants. And it's just like this weird, tone deaf
sort of suggestion. And again it echoes when he was
running for president the second time, when he lost and
then became Barack Obama's running Maye. That's important to note

(27:46):
that he's lost. He's lost. He's dropped out before um
as well, which we'll look at do. But he's actually
uniquely bad at running for president Historically he has not
been successful. Um, though he has tried many times. Uh so,
maybe maybe you just stop it, Joe. But in one
of the earlier debates, they were talking about the AIDS crisis,
and he spent a long time this is a really

(28:08):
interesting clip. He's been a long time shouting about how
he would go to black neighborhoods and tell all the
black men to wear condoms and all the black women
that it's okay to say no. And he like he talked,
he said a few times, like I tell him, like
it's okay and work condoms and stuff, and like he
would go into these black communes and do that. And
then he's like and you know, hey, He's like, you

(28:29):
know it's okay to be tested. I got tested. And
then he said, and I know Brock has been tested.
Oh god, yeah, Joe, just a gaff machine man. You
have to stop. Why how can you do that? No filter?
He's not no filter, but like maybe he does. And
his filter is bad because what's going like what's going

(28:51):
through is bad. But the filter is also not worked.
That's that's such a bad thing. We see so positive
for I just quick, it's just real. It's not great. Um,
And I think this is again it's a pattern and

(29:13):
it stems from this history and like, but I do
want to say to his credit Robert Samuel's from the
Washington Post, Robinette Samuel's h he did a story about
the Wilmington Pool and talked to a lot of people
in the neighborhood and a lot of the folks who
were like in the community um at the time, and
a lot of them did point out Robert what you're saying, Katie,
that like Biden was the first white person who really

(29:35):
listened to them, and you seem to have them like
in his heart, like he was trying to like reach
out like that is that is a good thing about him.
It's just that era of like white saviorhood, and it's
some of it's down to just like you know, there's
very few people who are able to completely transcend their time.
Like we're all to a degree stuck in our time.

(29:56):
There's things that like when we're Joe Biden's age will
be like the Norman's society and it'll be good that
those things are the norm, and we'll feel weird about them.
Like I know, I'm never going to get on board
with self driving cars, even though I can't argue with
the basic idea like that, there's always going to be
ship that like you just can't move past. Like Joe
Biden is not a bad man, but he's a bad

(30:16):
man for this time. He's not the right man anymore,
not the person we need. Yeah, yeah, it's like you
pick up you pick out a guy from the from
the seventies and you're like, well you be president fifty
years later, Like that's no way to country. Well, it
comes down to I mean I thought this earlier. We'll
keep saying this. I'm sure a lot of times start
the show, but the Democrats have stayed in this middle

(30:40):
pocket while Republicans get pulled further right and they still
keep thinking that what we need that our answer to
this is like, okay, hold this line when it's not.
That's not working. It hasn't worked. This is not the error.
We're not it's not the seventies. It's it's time for
something drastically different. Um, it's not going to play that game.
This mistake he makes that like part of what the

(31:02):
Democrats need is somebody who can like talk about you know,
punching people and like uh talk like Joe Biden or
like Trump does, like like to working class people. And
it's like no, no, no, no no. That works for
the Republicans because of like number one, who their base are,
and because Donald Trump is specifically attacking the groups that
they hate, you are defending those groups. So the fact

(31:23):
that you ape his language is not going to win
you when he votes from people are like, yeah, but
you support gay marriage and like we hate gay people. Um,
like that, it's just not going to work. Like what
what what's going to appeal to a progressive base and
appeal to like union where like, what's going to actually
appeal to the people are going to vote for Democrats?

(31:44):
Is a different thing than Joe Biden is capable of delivering,
which is why he continuously fails to become the president.
Interesting pattern. Yeah, it's the same thing. Like, I mean,
he's the one person who has failed to become president
in the Democratic Party more than Hillary Clinton, right right, right, Yeah,
And the only reason, I mean the reason he's pulling

(32:04):
so well is because people know his name and they
think he's the safe choice. When uh, because you talk
about Hillary Clinton too, like the polling said the same thing.
Then I actually don't. I just don't think that he
doesn't matter. I mean it does matter. That's what we're here.
I I worry about him. Yeah, I mean he's got

(32:24):
he's got all the same problems and more. In a way,
back to our buddy Joe, let's get into like a
little more than nitty gritty a little more of his
life because related to this race issue, he seems to
have this sort of lost in time aspect um. I
think this is again the Ninja turtles and thats exactly. Yeah,

(32:46):
here's the secret of Joe Biden's ooze. One thing I
think we've sort of been alluding to that again that
Robert Samuel's fellow points out his piece about his community.
Joe Biden clearly wanted to get to know and be
involved in the lives of black people. Absent of that
was an analysis or willingness to understand the impact of

(33:08):
structural and systemic racism and uh, systemic racism, perhaps that
he might end up contributing to. Perhaps maybe we can
discuss that. So, Joe Biden was the fifth youngest Senator
to serve UM on his way to maybe be the
oldest president to be elected. UM. He prides himself on
being able to work with Republicans like Mitch McConnell and

(33:30):
strom Thurmond. Um. Good dude, yeah, good dude, Strom Thermond.
It's weird when you talk about strom uh, like it
only makes sense if you say his full name. It
sounds normal, like if you're like, oh, Strom over there,
no don't know strom Thermond over there. And if either
of those names do not feel comfortable coming out of
a mouth like awkward. If I had never read any

(33:53):
of his history and you just said the name strom Thurmond,
I would say, well, that's a man who supported segregation,
Like like you just know as soon as you hear
the now you feel it in your bones. Yeah. Um.
But Joe Biden is the man behind the nine four
crime bill, push that quite a bit, um, which he
remains proud of. Many point of this bill is contributing
to mass incarceration. Um, they're not wrong. Um. Though he

(34:14):
and others have pointed out that the increase incarceration actually
began in the seventies, um, which also is not wrong. Um.
And I I I wonder is there like something that
happened like right before the seventies that might have led
people like white people in power to sort of push
for mass conversion when orders right right before the seventies,
like a big like a thing like like a movement,

(34:34):
like a big movement, a movement for rights something the
civil sector of society, right, like like bring more people
into society. But then like you want you want to
get them out, you want to get them out. Now yeah,
no I don't think so. Okay, well, now yeah it's yeah,
yeah I should I should have googled seventies before, right people.

(34:55):
Um but uh so, while the bill the crime will
did contribute to it, it's not the only thing. Um. So,
maybe Joe Biden's off the hook, but that also doesn't
mean that Joe Biden wasn't involved with the other stuff. Um. So,
early on in his career, Biden was like way into crime,
not doing crime, but like the idea of crime and
being like the tough on crime guy solving the crime problem.

(35:17):
He went to party leadership a lot, uh, saying, quote,
give me the crime issue and you'll never have trouble
with it in an election. Um. Working with his good
friends from Thurmond on a crime bill, he told Strom,
if you keep your right wing guys from killing this bill,
I'll keep the liberals off the bill. And if you
and I stand fast and agree on what we can
agree on and just hold firm, we can pass this thing.

(35:40):
Another quote I actually quite like is, uh, we have
a military budget of billion dollars, which, right off the bat,
I think it's a good way to start conversations about
budget um, Like it was for real, Like if you're
talking about like we don't have money and be like, well,
the military has all this um. But he followed it
up with and yet in we only spend three billion

(36:02):
dollars a year to fight crime um. And it continued
with his bill with strom Thurman, how much should we
spend on schools? Joe, I wonder if maybe maybe basing
school budget on the wealth of the community that schools
for us a bad idea. Yeah, it takes a special
kind of mind to look at the budget and be like,

(36:22):
we're shooting enough people overseas, but we're not shooting enough
people here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. We gotta
we gotta even it out a little. Well, it's not
like putting more money into schools would also help with crime.
I wonder. Yeah, No, more education would not help. It
wouldn't help. Also, less restrictions on the kind of substances

(36:44):
people can imbibe, none of that would would would help
the incarceration issue. No, Joe Biden's Joe Biden's flawless on
this one. I don't see your what you're building to Cody. Oh, well,
in that case, let's take a quick break and uh,
we're we'll we'll build, We'll keep building to the actual
point and what Biden actually did. I can't wait to
see the sandcastle. Oh my gosh. I know. I wish
one of our sponsors was a mattress company, because then

(37:07):
we could have we could have like segued from talking
about Joe Biden being woke to being like and if
you want to be woke, you've got to sleep. That
is so goods Come at us Mattress companies, Come at
us mattress companies to get woke. Ah, there's other candidates.
We could use that on if somebody wants to invest
Mattress money in US. Yeah. Yeah, but it's these ads

(37:30):
instead product together everything We're back. Oh my god. Those
were some powerfully erotic ads. Just oh man, Oh yeah yeah.

(37:52):
I am boiling under the collar. So let's cool off
by talking about Joe Biden. Let's jump back into that pool.
I don't know Joe. Joe's a he's a hunky man,
so I am not. He was good looking as a
younger man, I mean, yeah, objectively handsome when he was younger. Yeah, yeah,

(38:12):
he needed more. Um. I think it would have helped
if like one of his eyes exploded, like yeah, a
little more character, you know, that handsome face. But then
just like yeah, you don't want someone to be too handsome.
Give me some blood, dread exactly. I gotta get those blood,
you know. I know you can say fairly that like
that's just a thing that happens, and it's not really

(38:33):
a serious health problem. But also I've given a number
of speeches, and I've seen a lot of people give
speeches without their eyes exploded. Yeah, it does worry me
that that happened to Joe. It's just another piece of
information to keep just something else. Even mind all right,
keep doing your thing, just and the teeth thing. It's
just that it's always always when it's like a debate

(38:54):
or like a big event, it's never like, oh, he's
doing like a thing in Iowa. It's like, no, when
we really need you to keep it together. The election
has just started, and he looks more like the crypt
keeper than he did when he left office. If so
many more months of this, but back to Joe and
his his buddy Strom, his concern with crime. So during

(39:18):
during this sort of period of late seventies early eighties,
like Carter Reagan sort of period crime wasn't necessarily like
a national issue at this time. They were more focused
on the economy and things like that, so it wasn't
like you gotta be tough on crime. That wasn't really
a thing yet for these people. But the the Biden
Thermon dream Team was working to on on a bill

(39:40):
basically to increase penalties for drugs, including expanding civil asset forfeiture,
which side note, civil asset forfeiture exists on the federal
level largely because of Joe Biden specifically. There's a strong
argument to be made that rather than like the actual
like focus on incarceration and stuff, the number one thing

(40:02):
he attributed to, like the growth of the car serial
state in this country is that because that's many people
will argue that is the number one driver of our
prison population is the fact that we made it profitable
to incarceerate people for police departments, and that's how they
found themselves now exactly. Um, it's it's a terrible policy. Uh,
you can argue it's the worst thing he did. Yes, yeah,

(40:23):
Um yeah, it's it's not not good. There's way more
into the story of that, but just check out the
comprehensive forfeiture Act introduced by Joe Biden, and I was
part of this other bill, but he eventually got it
done on his own, and so that was a big
part of it. And they also worked together to create
a Sentencing Commission and sort of eradicate parole at the

(40:43):
federal level, and to limit access to will cool Um
sort of all these things that make it um a
little bit harder. Uh. He lead the push for the
Anti Drug Abuse Act of six, which lengthened sentences for
a lot of senses. Um. He was regularly very critical
of George Bush for not being tough enough on crime.

(41:05):
He's just like the tough crime guy. He would be
heard to say phrases like lock the s O B
s up. You can see a lot of his speeches
on the floor of Congress sort of talking in this
way about crime and criminals in general, although recently he's
been heard to say things like too many people are
incarcerated and nobody should be in jail for a nonviolent crime.

(41:27):
There we go, which Herd agreed Joe, but no, but
no acknowledgement of the role he played to create the exactly.
There's no reflection on how we got here or that
like he's changing his mind even like it's just like, no,
I'm saying the thing that we are said, saying the
stuff that we all want me to say, right when
he hugely contributed to it. Again, like the civilisid forfiture

(41:51):
thing is bonkers to me that it was him, and
no one's really brought that up to him or to
his face in relation to all this stuff. And it
just seems like a problem to have somebody who is
so for these things when they've sent their entire career
being against them, and it makes me question what he

(42:11):
actually believes or thinks or once you know, Yeah, I
don't know. Not a fan, That's all I'm saying. Um,
But no discussion of Joe Biden will be complete without
discussing Anita Hill. Yes, thank you, one who contacted the
FBI about alleged sexual harassment from Clarence Thomas. Would take

(42:35):
that line one more time. No discussion of Joe Biden
would be complete without discussing Anita Hill, a woman who
contacted the FBI about alleged sexual harassment from Clarence Thomas
who would eventually be put on the Supreme Court for
a life. Yeah, Biden led the hearing Regarding Hill's accusations,

(42:57):
he's recently said, not only didn't I vote for Claire Thomas,
I believed her from the beginning. I was against Clarence Thomas.
I did everything in my power to defeat Clarence Thomas,
and he won by the smallest margin anyone ever won.
Going on the Supreme Court. Um many hold Biden partly
responsible for this and for the terrible treatment he'll received.

(43:18):
He allowed Republicans to attack her too harshly, sort of
with free reign um. He himself had a line of
questioning that was very aggressive and accusatory, despite his claim
that he believed Yeah, he's even said, if you go
back and look at what I said and didn't say,
I don't think I treated her badly. So again, this
sort of not being able to receive criticism to any

(43:40):
reflection on perhaps even if even if you frame it
like well is a different time and I was doing
this and this and this, he won't even go that
far to say I regret doing it. I wish I didn't.
It was a different time. I'm sorry, Like there's nothing there.
It's just sort of denying that there was anything wrong
with it. And that's what I want in a president.

(44:01):
Um yeah, um, I love having our current president, but
slightly more woke. Um. You know, you know, I think
it's a very clear truth of American history that nothing
but good has ever come from presidents not being able
to admit their mistakes. That's why we had the famously
successful Vietnam War, which lead to a lot of good,

(44:26):
only good things, for only good reasons. Well, the most
important thing is just to keep barreling straight ahead without
reflection because if you because otherwise you look weak. But
we need a strong um man man, Yes, thank you,
a strong you. That's also only worked out well for
human history. He's Electing strong strong men to positions always

(44:49):
works out well. They always do a good job and
never any negative strongly like authoritative positions. With you know,
increasing amounts of power, I think we we might be
coming up with inventing live on this podcast, a new
political philosophy. It seems good, it seems good. Strong man

(45:11):
is m Yes, that's got a real ring to it.
I would prefer though, if the strong the strong man
represented uh like the minority opinion of the population. Absolutely okay, yeah, Well,
and in order to justify his power, we say that

(45:31):
he spiritually embodies the essence of the people, seems like
speaking for everybody despite not having the representation in the election.
It's really coalescing right now. I think we're onto something.
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah. Um. I'm waiting
for a politician that opposed Donald Trump to literally call

(45:53):
the fascist and explain why he is. Um. Side note
that we're just talking about um. No one said we
can probably get Beto to call him an asshole. But yeah,
I wouldn't trust Beto to know or remember the actual
definition the fascism, No no, no, no, but he definitely
would swear about it. Fascist are prideful boy. It's not

(46:17):
running for sam. I am excited for the rally Beto
O'Rourke does wearing like a battle jacket at a skate
park like that's gonna be a real fun day that. Yes,
we do and we will. Um yeah. Back to my
buddy Joe, um and how he didn't doesn't think he

(46:38):
did anything wrong, retreated badly um despite other people saying
that he has, even people in his own party and
people that have watched the hearings. If you ask Anita Hill,
she definitely thinks differently. It was apparently a running joke
in her household for years and years and years that
if like if no, if they were if her and
her family was home, if nobody was expected, like they

(46:59):
didn't expect company, but the doorbell rang, somebody would say,
is that Joe Biden coming to apologize? Um? Yeah, just
a running joe in her in her household. But Joe
did apologize literally decades later, mere weeks before announcing his
third run for president, issuing how that works out? It

(47:20):
is interesting timing there, Joe, But it definitely seems sincere. Yeah.
Oh yeah, no, he meant it. Um. Although he apparently
didn't apologize for his behaviorize, he apologized for how she
was treated. No, unacceptable, not getting them. Sorry. I hate
like the weasel words. I'm sorry. Just apologize, I'm sorry.

(47:44):
If what I said was hurt you, I'm sorry you're upset.
I am that sucks, you're upset. I don't like you
being mad at me because I don't think I did
anything wrong. Yeah, you're not sorry. Point in our national
discourse where a good apology actually means more than it should,
just because you never hear them, Like I can actually
almost forgive some really terrible things. If it's actually a

(48:06):
good apology as opposed to just like, well, I'm sorry
you felt hurt, like like good for you for growing
and like you seeing it. Yet it's literally acknowledging the thing.
Yeah yeah. Um. Interestingly enough, she did not accept his apology. Um.
As soon as the story came out again with very
interesting timing that he had apologized to her, she came
out and said, no, I don't accepted an apology. What

(48:28):
are you talking about, Well, it sounds like she's being unreasonable.
It does sound like that. Why can't she get on
board the Biden train so many reasons? Which is a
decrepit am track. This is chugging along, chugging along. It's uh,
just like parts of it exploding every once in a while. Um.

(48:49):
So she didn't accept his apology. So I think this
actually sort of brings institute different discussions. One is about
Joe Biden's relationship with Republicans and one is about his
relationship with women. Um. First the literal elephants in the room. Um,
his relationship with Republicans um. As fellow Democrat Howard Metzenbaum
explained about the need of hearing quote Joe bent over

(49:12):
too far backwards to accommodate the Republicans who are going
to get Thomas on the court, come hell or high water.
And I think this is really representative of again what
we've been talking about, where he trusts Republicans and the
Republican Party way too much. Um. Like he's talked about
how Donald Trump is an aberration, how he like he

(49:34):
came out of nowhere. He's wholly separate from the Republican
Party and Biden's campaign for Republicans, he's defended them. He
claims that when Trump is gone, they'll all have an epiphany. Um.
In short, Biden doesn't get it at all. And uh,
he doesn't get what the Republican Party is. He doesn't
get the Trump is the logical conclusion to that party,

(49:54):
and the party has no interest, no interest in compromising
or helping or bridging this divide, and keeps talking about
they elected Donald Trump, who has a approval rating among Republicans.
He doesn't get it, and uh, that's gonna that's just
not a way to a win support from the opposition

(50:16):
party or to get anything done. Um. Because it's again
that sort of we're gonna compromise, we're gonna stay, we're
gonna stay the course, We're gonna stay down the middle.
And then the Republicans are like, well, fuck, you know,
we're gonna act the way that we act and uh cool,
it's cool, cool, cool cool cool, it's cool. Um so

(50:40):
that's gonna be not great. Um, it's just it's just
another example of like you just don't you don't understand,
and you're trying to get back to this era that
doesn't exist. It's not going to happen, and it may
have existed, but but it it's we're so far past that.
And um, when it existed, it was mostly just all

(51:03):
of the white people left and right long and passing
laws that fucked over people who are not Yes, I
mean literally have that consideration, this whole thing of like,
oh yeah, you worked with strom Thurmond to get these
these laws passed. Uh, that did exactly what you just said,
Robert h And he talks about that in the way

(51:24):
he eulogized strong Them's funeral and talked about how they
worked together, and he works Fether, Mitch McConnell and all
these people that do not give a fuck. And it's
the that that time is over, Joe, and I'm sorry
it ain't happening. I'm actually not sorry that time is
over fair because really bad, you know what, I agree,

(51:47):
I take it back. It's very good that that era
is over. We're about women now, we're gonna talk about women.
Here we go. Uh, it's creepy little hands and like
I guess in a nutshell Joe, like what are you doing?
What are you doing? This is a podcast, so we
can't show you the many times he's just like touched

(52:08):
women in weird ways. Go on YouTube and you'll find
a compilation of it and it is truly striking. Just
take a minute to go for that. Like the Republicans
have made a big deal about it, but they're really
not exaggerating it. The old problem and there's hundreds of
examples of it, a tons of examples, super weird. Uh,
there's no that's the thing with a lot of stuff

(52:28):
that Uh, there are problems with Joe where it's like
Republicans weaponize them, but a lot of the things are
like yeah, that's right, Like that's andre so so often
you see these sort of things weaponize, blown out of proportion.
But it's not good. Um, and he's you know, kind
of apologized for it, but then he's joked about it

(52:48):
after the fact and then re intinue to do it
also kind of apologized right like that, And even then
it's like talking about like at a different time, it's like, well,
it was never a good time that was sniff women's
hair from behind or like touched like people that clearly
don't want to be Um. Do you remember how they

(53:10):
called the seventies the old the good old hair sniff
in years m yeah, yeah yeah um. And this is
a lot of stories also of just the like calling
women's sweetheart in that condescending way. That's one of those
things where like that's not okay, but like that I
can chalk up to, like, Okay, that was more common

(53:32):
at a different time. The hair sniffing and grabbing was
never normal, never, Yeah, always uncomfortable especially yeah, and like
just having that position of power to like it's not
okay no matter what. But him being like, yeah, you're
the vice president, You're gonna sniff this woman's hair from behind,
and like it's too much Joe, um hm. But but

(53:54):
like just a few days ago is a woman from
the Sunshine movement from that Um, I'm just asking him
about his relationship with the assil fuel industry. Uh, you know,
taking money from executives. How has climate change advisor Heather
Zitchel made like a million dollars from the fossil fuel money. Um.
And he kept denying that any of this is true.
And he ended it with saying, again quite condescendingly, like,

(54:17):
thank you for being admiring me so much. But during
that conversation, as she's approaching him and talking to him,
he grabs her hands and like and like puts her
hands inside his hands and he does not let them
go the entire time. Sounds like someone who doesn't learn
his lessons, doesn't learn his lesson and like has the
sort of like knee jerk reactions of like, well, I'm

(54:39):
being confronted, I need and like this is a woman,
so I'm gonna grab her hands and just deny it
and then be like thanks for the advice, sweetheart, and
walk away. Um. It's it's like it's that sneaky kind
of chauvinism. That's like that's like I know, I'm a
good guy. Do you guys want to talk about the
Kamala Harris debat where he grabbed her arm? Oh? Yeah, um,

(55:07):
and yeah, it's just like a thing that he even
though he's apologizing for it, he still does it and
he still doesn't get it. There's that moment in the
debate where he in Kamala stage and he like grabs
her arm, and it was no easy on me, kid,
a kid, kiddo, be outside of the outside of the sexism.

(55:31):
Like if it had been a man that he'd done
that too, it still would have been an example of
like you fundamentally misunderstand politics. Yeah, you don't do that,
like ever, like you don't ask an opponent to go
easy on you never do that. You don't do it
behind closed doors, and you don't do it on stage
when you're Mike. Yeah, you just don't do it. Yeah,

(55:52):
it was like embarrassing in that way. And then also
just like why are you calling this woman kiddo and
like grabbing her arm? That would call this black woman kiddo.
Like here's a bunch of problematic acid. So there's so right,
there's so much surrounding most of the things. There's so
many layers of why that's bad. And that seems to
be a theme for him too, like and and it's

(56:13):
and I keep coming back to this, um it's he's
a weird mirror of Donald Trump in the worst way possible,
Like because with Trump you get a lot of this
stuff too, of like he says a thing and you're like, well,
that's wrong and bad for so many reasons. And with
Joe it's still and I'm not like, I'm not going
to compare sniffing women's hair from behind, which is bad

(56:34):
to the things that Donald Trump has been accused of
with women, which are horrendous. Um. But at the same time,
in terms of this being the worst year ever, I
can't imagine something worse for the country, for women, for
vulnerable communities and minorities, for everyone than two doddering old

(56:54):
bags of bones who think they're the ones standing up
to the bully, both often confused and having trouble using
words and sentences, arguing with each other about who's more racist,
who's more bad with women, and who has the hardest
time using their brains, Like it's going to be the
same guy arguing with himself. It's painful to imagine. It's

(57:16):
so painful to imagine. I don't I don't know what
to do. Even the dog is upset about it. Yeah,
dogs all over the country are upset about it. Yeah,
they're howling constantly. I mean, should we say something about
Joe Biden's the fact that he grabbed that baby dick first,
Oh my god, that photo baby, it's it's he holds

(57:42):
it again. The man is a father and he holds
a baby like no one holds a baby. Nobody holds baby.
I I have no kids. I don't like I would
be I like, I for good reason do not have kids.
I know. You don't hold a fucking baby that way.
You don't hold a baby like that. You don't hold
your baby like that. You don't hold somebody else's baby
like that. You don't hold somebody else's baby like that
when there's a camera taking a picture, hold any living

(58:05):
thing that way. You don't hold a dog or a
cat that way. Nothing likes to be held. Dick. First,
we're going to picture or something like seriously, like google
Joe Biden holding a baby. It's the first picture bananas
and auto fills on Google. Oh no, it's so weird,

(58:31):
and like this is kind of stuff that like it's
bad and we all know it's bad. And then you
imagine an election where he's against Donald Trump and like
that machine weaponizing this kind of stuff. It's gonna be
miserable and like probably effective. And nobody, nobody, we don't
want it. We don't want it. We don't want it.
We don't want it. We don't want it. I can

(58:54):
I tell my one Joe Biden story. So back in
when I was doing the convention circuit and work in
the election, one of the journalists I worked alongside was
like a long time DC Bureau reporter, like twenty years
or something. He'd been reporting on politics and d C.
And so he'd like met Joe Biden a bunch of times,
been at a bunch of events where the vice president

(59:15):
had spoken and where he's spoken even before he was VP.
And he told me about one where Joe Biden went
and like gave this speech and then afterwards just started
like hanging out with the press corps and like drinking
until the point where like they were up until like
two in the morning. And uh, he says, like I
noticed like one of his Secret Service agents just looking
absolutely exhausted, and I like looked over to him and

(59:37):
I asked, does he do this a lot? And the
Secret Service agent looked back at him and said, all
the time, and this voice that was just like bone weary.
This guy doesn't know when he's going to get to
sleep because Joe Biden just can't stop himself from hanging
out with people. That's is that is, that does is
that drive, that need that needs to be desired and

(59:58):
liked and loved, and like I'm the guy we're going
I'm here until you all fall asleep or like my
high explodes and I kind of taken napin it. I mean, yeah,
there are some good things that I think about him
that like are unique to him as a candidate, and

(01:00:19):
it's not a lot to talk about, but like I
do think they're positives. He took public transit, the Amtrak
for like twenty something years, um, And it's good to
have somebody in the executive branch who like understands how
a huge chunk of this country gets around. Yeah, there's
a wrong term experience. Yeah, that's positive. That's the positive

(01:00:42):
we have from train. No. No, there's there's one other
that's pretty significant to me, which is that he um,
he's the only member of the executive branch we've had
in recent memory who had a child fight in one
of our wars. Um, And that's not insignificant to me,
that's a positive as well. So like, I'll give him
those things. Those are but there's about significant things. Um,

(01:01:04):
it doesn't overwhelm all of them. Yeah, but it's nice.
I appreciate that you brought these two very small positives up. Yeah,
because we're fair and balanced, were fair and balanced and
stuff and other stuff. Yeah. Do you think that considering
all things, yea, his love where all things all of it? Um?

(01:01:27):
Do you think that his love and appreciation for trains
will lead him to do anything about like, because you know,
much more public transportation, maybe even free public transportation would
benefit so many people and improve some people's lives. But
will he do anything about that? That's a great question,
And the answer is it depends on whether or not

(01:01:50):
his eyeballs explode, rendering him unable to uh do his
job as president chancesible or maybe maybe he's on his
way to sign the bill increasing public transit funding and
he seeds a baby with an ungrabbed crotch and he's

(01:02:10):
just got to get in there, um, you know, and
then as I put his teeth fall out and then
he's like he goes to pick it up, but the eyeball,
you know, Joe Biden over the last year is like
a very slow motion uh play of that scene at
the end of Raiders of the Lost Star. Just gonna

(01:02:33):
slowly melt for the next fifteen we're just watching that.
I mean, and that would be fun, but it's not
what I want from a president, not from a president.
From a vice president. Sure, yeah, you can get away
with that as a VP. I don't actually care all
that much. Yeah, and swear to god, I like gets

(01:02:56):
on the ticket. It's like the running maide of somebody
that no one would do that. No, I'm I am
excited for Beto Biden. Oh God, of all the people
to pickin. Oh no, no, no, that won't happen. Joe

(01:03:16):
Is Yeah, no, nobody likes him on that stage. They don't.
He doesn't like being on that stage. Um, thanks for
doing all that research for us, Cody, that was interesting,
probably my favorite person. I love him. That was so
sincere and completely, very sincere and in your heart. Yeah,

(01:03:40):
you get it. That's my that's my sincerity for the day.
I like him. M h. Well, thanks for listening, guys.
This is really fun. You can check us out on
the internet at worst your pod that's on Twitter. Instagram
and uh, we do not have a website just yet
coming soon. But what we do definitely have coming soon

(01:04:01):
as a t public store with merchandise and stuff that
you should buy. We should stay right now. The only
shirt that we will ever sell is a high resolution
picture of Joe Biden grabbing that baby's growing. Can we
sell that? Oh yeah, that's gonna lead us through to November? Yeah?
With that that Daria teacher's eye popping out. Yeah, yeah,

(01:04:23):
you've you've you're already well acquainted with the dirt bag
left via podcast Like Chapo, we're the Baby's crotch Grabbing
Let Nope, nope, nope. Shouldn't nobody agree to need a
workshop that we need a workshop that in circle background?
It's too bad we're branded already, guys. I'm sorry, it's
a it's a real shame. We're all really upset that

(01:04:43):
we can't brand ourselves as the baby crotch Grabbing podcast.
And what can listeners expect next next week we're gonna
be talking about Andrew Yang. So you know you want
to tune in for that? Guys? Oh yeah you do? Yeah,
come back if you haven't some ribe, subscribe, ye join
our Yang gang. It's gone. It's not going to be

(01:05:04):
as interesting as the corn Pop gang, but it'll be
different kind of gang romans. They're hanging out of the
pool causing trouble. There will be a bike chain, but
that's that's all all spoil ahead of time. Yeah, but
it's like a bike chain that's falling off of a
bike and like someone to fell over and skin their knee.
It's a different kind of violent spoiler. Yeah, come back

(01:05:26):
for that. It was fun. You know what? Bye Everything,
Everything I Tried. Lovely Worst Yeer Ever is a production
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