July 14, 2021 • 57 mins
We should really do something about Tucker Carlson, who seems to be prepping his viewers for mass violence.
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That is surprising to me. But here, it's more than someone.
It was like multiples. It was. It was multiple as
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we said, turn on the Sharine signal, and Sophie was like,
we spent thank god, we spent a quarter of a
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that money to corporate and by god we did. We
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Thank you so much. That's both of you. Maybe white
men aren't terrible, thank you, that's exactly what Cody and
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I are trying to do every day convince people that
white men are good, just just to just to get
people to say it on record. Now it's I mean,
now it's recorded. Now they can use that for anything
I ever say. You know, any time by trash or
white dude, they're going to play that on loop and
be like Sharin says, hashtag not all white men. Oh God, suicide.
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That is Twitter suicide speaking of white men and of
a kind of suicide. I guess we should talk about
Tucker Carlson. Oh good, I love, I love, I mean,
I always forget how good your segways are, but you
surprised me every time continued. That's the only thing I
went to college for Sharene seven years. Yeah, I mean,
it was four years of intense instruction than three years
(03:25):
of apprenticeship to the actual guy who runs the Segway
company until he drove off that Cliff in Scotland had
died on a segue. Um alright, pe. Needless to say,
I was taught by the best. How do you feel
about Tucker Carlson, Shermine. I want to throw up just
hearing his name. I imagined his stupid face. I'll scrunched
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up every time I imagine a stupid face, and his
look on his face just constantly makes me mad. I
don't think a lot of people I can just look
at in my blood boils and I just don't like him. Draine,
do you remember what I told you last time you
came on behind the Bastards No, that you're my favorite
person to make fun of white man? Yeah? I was like,
(04:11):
oh no, did she morphy that to say what I
told you? Remember when I still fitting that you are
today for this event. I mean, this is my favorite hobby.
I think I'm okay at it, you know, like everyone
has their strengths. I'm not good at much else. Um
So I just love to tear apart dumb white men.
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And he's one of the dumbest. He's one of the dumbest,
you know. I wish I agreed with you that he
was dumb. And I think there was a time when
we all thought that, right when when Jon Stewart had
that was probably the apex of us thinking that John
Stewart could be a force for good in the universe
when he when he embarrassed Tucker Carlson on National TV,
but then to the point of getting his show canceled
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to the point of getting his show canceled, but Tucker
didn't stop wearing. He did staff wearing about power. Um,
it was a nice moment. It was one of those Uh,
John Stewart, I wish you'd retired after that and never
come back into the public eye and it we could
have just remembered you from that moment and your your
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appearance on Half Baked, which was also pretty SOLIDUM. Oh
and the faculty. Yeah, but he had to come back
into the public anyway, Unfortunately. UM. Tucker Carlson also didn't
disappear from the public eye. And he's kind of built
over the last really in particular the last four years.
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Um turned himself into the mouthpiece of the American fascist
movement on cable and he is the most popular cable
news host something or something like three million people tune
into his show every uh however often is nightly. Right. UM,
he's very popular and he's uh, he's very extreme. And
(05:59):
I can remember her. When I first started thinking about
him was kind of you know, I was doing anti
fascist research starting like two thousand eighteen or so, is
really when I got switched over from studying you know,
Islamic extremism to that, and I mostly focused on like
what what actual Nazis were saying in their little chat
rooms to each other, And they kept bringing him up, Um,
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and usually they would say, like, oh, he's a cuck,
but he's right about some things. But like I noticed,
over the course of a couple of years there being
this like growing appreciation for his ability to mainstream white
nationalist talking points. Um Daniel Harper, who does the wonderful
podcast I Don't Speak German, and as a great researcher,
Um pointed out that Chris Cantwell, crying Nazi from from
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the Charlottesville Unite the Right rally, would have go on
his show and like play Tucker segments and then read
sections of mind comp that like lined up with the
point that Tucker was making in that segment, and it's
it's I mean, I've gone from being like, oh, he
was just another Fox host to know he might be
the most dangerous man in America, like legitimately might be
(07:02):
the most dangerous certainly within the American media. You know. Um, Yeah,
he's the he is the he's like the text like
textbook definition of a fascist propagandist. That's what he does.
That's his that's his role and that and he knows
that that's his role. Yes, I guess, like my impulse
is never to give that that kind of person that
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much credit, Like I don't want to believe they're that
successfully smart and good at what they do. But I
guess in this case, he's probably not that dumb and
he knows exactly what he's doing and he's feeding the
flame of these very hateful people. Um but what but
every time? So last year, remember that thing that happened
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where Fox News one a court case saying that Tucker
Carlson is not journalism, he's not a journalist, like you
should never take him seriously, Like how does how does that?
That's the only thing I think of when I think
of him now, Like literally, they I don't know, thinkyally
about media. It doesn't matter to the people who like him.
(08:05):
Alex Jones has had the same thing, Like Alex Jones
has had his lawyers explained like he's, um, he's not
telling the news, right, He's not. Like this is like
a performance, right, That's happened a few times. This isn't
even the first time Fox News has gone in court
and argued like no one would mistake what we're doing.
They literally said that no reasonable viewer would take him seriously.
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Like that's that's pretty funny. I think it a bunch
of times recently too. Yeah, like where they like, yeah,
Rachel Meadow, like she exaggerates, she's a hyper hyperbolic and
it's not like it's not straight news. I mean. And
the reason that you would say something, it's the easiest
legal argument to make to defend yourself in that situation, right, um,
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because if your entertainment this isn't real and they know
no one's like none of none of Maddow's fans think
any less of her as a result of that. None
of Carlson's fans give a shit about least quarter. It's
just like none Alex owns his fans giving you know,
they just want the things to be said to like
most people in the country, right yeah. I do think
Before so, before we get like really really deep into this,
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I wanted I think that there's an important passage from
Tucker's biography. God he well because he is like so
he's um, he is. The things he says on television
are very silly and stupid, and you can watch any
of his monologues and go that's not true or like
well that doesn't make any sense. Uh, And we could
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go through many, many examples. He did five minutes, like
a five minute like fifth grade book report on like
why America is great, and it's like part of it
was like how we don't eat dogs and stuff like that.
It's just nonsense. He's so silly, especially since we thought
we picked though, Like it's like, yeah, the whole thing
is just like Also in the in the in the
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segment he's talked started talking about like the beautiful trees
that America has and it's all photos of palm trees
which were brought all. Uh so he's just a silly man. Um.
But I think something that speaks the most to him
and what an absolute fraud he is, even though he
is like he's a smart liar. Um is this passage
(10:15):
from Tucker describing he used to be like a quote journalist.
He actually wanted to work for the c I a
UM but they rejected him, and so he was in print.
And uh, here's this little, short, short, little paragraph. It's
about his first appearance on television. I was heading back
to my desk with a takeout hot dog. First of all,
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what a fancy boy calling it a takeout hot dog.
I was heading back to my desk with a takeout
hot dog, that phrase that people use. One afternoon, when
I ran into the receptionist, she asked me what I
knew about the o J trial. My instinct was to answer, honestly,
just about nothing. But for some reason I caught myself.
I asked her why she wanted to know. Well, she explained,
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Dan Rather's booker, just call looking for an o J
expert to go on forty eight hours tonight. Everyone else
is still at lunch. Can you do it? He was
on TV that next, Like that's his origin story, is
lying about knowing about stuff. Yeah, and I think that
is all you need to know about him. But the
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fact that he said that himself is hilarious to me.
Like he just admitted to just get the ultimate bush.
He just does not care and it works for him.
That's why that's a whole type of person um. There's
actually a lot of like evolutionary psychology theory devoted to
why certain individuals, like the evolution of overconfidence. Right, because
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you have this, everyone knows about the Dunning Kruger effect, Right,
The idea that the people who are most confident of
their abilities often are the least capable in the things
that they're most competent about are confident about right, people
overestimate their own level of confidence constantly. And there's the
question is like I write about this in my book
A Brief History Advice. But the question is like, why
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is that so common? Because it seems maladaptive? Right, it
seems like it would just get you killed, uh, and
that wouldn't be such a common thing, but it's everywhere,
it's all over uh civilization, And clearly it's clearly it's
not maladaptive. Is the is the is the reality? So
why is that? One of the theories is that you
essentially you have two organisms, right um and and a
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resource in between them, food or something both of them wanted,
both of them neither of them knows if they would
win in a fight against the other. The one that assumes,
of course I would win in this fight and goes
for the food. Sometimes it might get into a fight
and it might lose that fight, but more often than not,
the other organism is going to back off to avoid
the fight, and then it gets the food. Like being
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overconfident when you have nothing to back it up. Is
actually a really smart evolutionary strategy. And yes, some fraction
of people who have the same kind of brain worms
Tucker Carlson has die or get embarrassed on live TV
and laughed out of civilization, but a lot of them
wind up millionaires who successfully wrenched the national political wheel
harder towards fascism. Um, which is a bummer to think
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about that way, but that's the way it is. Yeah, um, yeah,
it is. He is. He can say what he wants
and no matter how silly or very obviously wrong. It's
very frustrating to watch him speak, actually, because it's like
I want, I want to speak to him in a
room like for just a few minutes with no cameras around,
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because he is he's so obviously aware of how full
of shitty is um. But he'll never I'll never, He'll
never face that music. No, And it wouldn't matter if
he did. There's literally nothing you could get him to
say in private that would have any influence on how
his fans see him because and that's just ne that's
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not a Tucker thing, that's an everyone thing. Right. That's
why cancel culture is such a ridiculous idea because by
the time anyone is famous, whatever crimes they commit are
very unlikely to have any sort of broad impact against
their fan base because everything is a cult today um,
and cults are famously immune to rationality, which is coming
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across as more hopeless than I think it is. But
on the upside, everyone dies. That is the one sure
thing that will happen. That is the only thing we
can really know that everyone does. Death is the ultimate equalizer. Yeah,
eventually all of these people and all of their fans
will be dead and something else will exist and it
will also probably suck, but I don't know, but then
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it'll die. It'll die too, Yeah, exactly. See, everything's fine. Yeah,
this is the confidence we need. Everything will die, but
crocodiles and great white sharks, yes, any tart grades and
tart grades of course, and the American dream and the
American dream so looked up, like I guess. Returning to
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the subject of Tucker Carlson, so about like I don't know,
like a month ago. Uh, he got on his show
and he started talking about like replacement theory. Ship in
replacement theory. Will remember the christ Church shooter who you know,
gunned down fifty people in mosques. His manifesto was called
The Great Replacement, and it was about white genocide. This
idea that liberals and cultural Marxists are using refugees to
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replace white people. Um, which is I don't think we
need to say this in our show, but it is
obviously false. There's, for one thing, more white people than
there I've ever been at any point in the history
of the planet. Uh. If you're of all the things
to worry about the anyway, it's just it's it's it's
all pensively ridiculous. Well yeah, it's ridiculous, but also like
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who cares. Yeah, you're you aren't being replaced. You are
your children might look different than if you sucked a
white person. No fun who you want? Like the whole
thing is just nonsense. Um, I mean who Because like,
if you really want to look, you'd say, like, hey,
on a long enough timeframe, all of the races are
going to get replaced by different races because people will
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interbreed to the extent that people will be different in
twenty thousand years than they are today in a variety
of ways. Because that's just evolution. Because yeah, it's just
like it presupposed all this stuff about like like it's
it's it's fearful to people who think that, yeah, uh,
that certain races have certain qualities, right exactly, like culture
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and the culture is connected to in a in a
way that that they can't separate, so they're they're fearful
of Like, well they this, then then they're all gonna
be like this and it's just nonsense. And his argument
is so funny though, because didn't he say something about like, uh,
like pretend you're in sixth grade and your your family,
uh suddenly adopts children that don't look like you and
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they all get new bikes, And to say that, like
what do you think, like, oh, my parents love these
children more than they love me and my white brothers
and sisters. It was the most ridiculous parallel I've ever heard.
But that's what he does. He makes it this like passionate,
like like this isn't real, like white people are like
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the favorites of the world or whatever he's trying to say.
Like it's so ste he's very he's very quote good
at that, like appealing to emotion because that's all he has.
He doesn't have actual information or facts. If fact check constantly.
It's always he's always wrong um or misrepresenting something. It's
always emotion and taking these like very childish analogies because yes,
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I guess that is how a child would react if
that happened. Hey, that's not happening, Uh be if it were.
You're an adult, Tucker, you know vote is children? You
know why, Yes, they're bad at judgment, like the idea
that like, of course adults are gonna act like fucking
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kids if something different happens in this Like it's so,
it's so it's equating like the parents with America, like
even mom and the parents are just like mom and
dad America. And then suddenly they're preferring in his mind
like people of color, immigrants or whatever, and white people
are just getting forgotten about there literally being replaced, and
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it's just it's just so silly and just like I mean,
and people do this all the time with like the
budget national budget is like your budget at home. It's like, well, no,
it's not. I can't print my own money. I can't
like as you like all this all the reasons that's silly. Um.
But if you want to make a point that's wrong,
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that's how you do it and you get people to
emotionally invest in this idea and go, oh wow, that's right.
I just love that, Like he puts it in words
like my listeners will understand if I equate them with
a sixth grader. Well that's the amazing. Like you think
about how you could extend his logic, and it's like, well,
you wouldn't trust a nine year old with a four
D F one fifty, so they shouldn't be legal because
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what if a nine year old was able to drive one.
It's like, well, yeah, children often make bad judgmental choices.
I'm sure a kid would feel jealous in that situation.
That's not a yeah, that's not a reason. Also, some
children can be sat down and explain things too, and
then they'll be like, oh, I guess I didn't look
look at it like like that. You're right, I'm not
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gonna act like it's child. It's almost like, I I
feel dumb that we're like arguing this out because we're
putting more thought into it than he ever did. Like
that's not I didn't need to bring it up to
argue it out. I just thought it like that parallel,
so I'll find it two year that I saw. But
there it's perfectly emblematic of how he presents his his
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what his fascist bullshit, like you wrap it up this
way because it's like folksy and it's always harkening back
to are like, yeah, it's all but all. But the
actual message is really sinister, which is, among other things,
we don't have enough to take care of other people,
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like your family will go without if we provide basic
life saving care to to other people. If other people's
and the extension of that is if people who are
not white and in the United States have a decent
standard of living, it means you're suffering. Like that is
where that thinking goes. But and here's the thing, and
it will probably get to it with one of the
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quotes about the larger topic we're talking about. But one
thing that he does, um, that is very sinister one
of the many things, uh, because he says stuff like
that all the time, you're being replaced this, this, this,
you know they're taking this from from us. Uh. And
you know if if if they can do this, and
then what are you going to have? And so and
so forth. He never puts forth the idea that we
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should take care of everybody. He's not like, he's not
like a socialist. He's not saying you should have socialized
healthcare him a socialist, I'm familiar, but like but but
there's no but he never he never actually pairs it
with anything tangible that they should be doing. He always
frames it like they're not trying to make your lives better.
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You don't want them to make their lives better, because
any suggestion on how to do that, you'd say, it's
like comic stuff, and like it's destroying America. Um So
it's it's it's it's all these layers of of uh,
this like sinister approach of like they're going to take
everything from you, but also like the government can't give
you stuff we should we shouldn't like do anything about it.
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Um So it's again it's like it's it's it means
in National Socialists what it is? Um. I just hate
him so much And how he slips this stuff in
um where he will say like, yeah, uh, the government
doesn't want to help you, you don't want them to
help him them. He frames himself as like a man
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of the people, when he's like Swanson air boy who
doesn't actually want taxes to be raised or any any
sort of social programs. No, because that would mean less
for him if other people aren't an absolute desperation. Tucker
Carlson is at least less relatively wealthy than them, and
he can't handle that. There's a bunch going on. Like
the quote from last month or I guess month before
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last that was so unsettling was demographic change. This is, Tucker.
Demographic change is the key to the Democratic Party's political ambitions.
Let's say that again for emphasis, because it is the
secret to the entire immigration debate. In order to win
and maintain power, Democrats plan to change the population of
the country. They're no longer trying to win you over
with their program. They're obviously not trying to improve your life.
They don't even really care about your vote anymore. Their
goal is to make you irrelevant. And that This is
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one good example of like how his stuff is because
that that is great replacement there, that's great. Now, when
Nazis say great replacement, they talk about how you know,
they'll use they use racial slurs. They'll talk about white
people are being replaced like with you know, these lesser
human beings. You can't say that on TV, even Tucker's listeners,
most of them would be like, Oh, that's kind of
(23:08):
fucked up. But you can say it this way. You
can say instead of you know, these racial slur, racial slur,
racial slurs are going to replace and you know, rape
all the white women. You say, the Democratic Party is
demographically changing this country in order to gain power, and
they're trying to replace you or make you irrelevant. Um.
And the Nazis recognize quite frankly, that Tucker is a
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better propagandist than them. UM. And I found a good
Vanity Fair article that kind of broke down the response
to thus just this broadcast UM through the kind of
far right media ecosystem. UH. Users on four Chan, we're
saying stuff like holy shit, I just watched Tucker's replacement segment.
This is a turning point in the program. People praise
him for quote naming the Jew on national television, which
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is the thing they do. I think a phrase Nazis
used to where you're basically saying, like, your goal is
to name the Jew, and increasingly public play is to
point out that white America's ills are responsible for the Jews.
They saw what him blaming that I'm a correct party
as him naming the jew. People said ship like hail Tucker. Um.
They compared him to v d AIR, which is a
white nationalist anti immigration organization. Uh. Nick Flintees tweeted this
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week Tucker red pilled four million people and there is
nothing liberals can do about it. Um. And and Nick
Flintes is a he's a Holocaust denier, He's a Nazi. Um.
He's the head of the Groper Movement, which is a
a far right like teen dominated right wing movement. Um.
He's he's the most of the actual like openly fascist activists.
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He's the one who worries me the most. He's got
some strong George Lincoln Rockwell vibes to me. But you
know who doesn't have strong George Lincoln Rockwell vibes? God
simply safe does not. Um. That's right, Cody, that's right
together everything. Oh, we're back, and we're talking about which
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of our sponsors aren't white nationalists And the answer is
all of them aren't. No white nationalist sponsors on this
show unless the Koke Brothers or Black Rifle Coffee have
gotten another ad through, in which case we apologize for
advertising a white super advertization. Yes, convinced it happens occasionally.
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Uhans Robert Cody, what if this you say each other's
names back, Robert Sharrodi Shardi Scharodi. If you guys were
like like a like a like a road act, that
would be your name. I mean road isn't there too? Well?
(25:55):
Sure it's like positive, like yes, yes, So I actually
wanted to talk briefly about Uh Tucker Carlson. Oh if
that's okay, like out of the blue. Um, he's so
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he's actually been. It's it's interesting because this the audience
has always been there and they've always been hinting at
this stuff, um for years, like since he got his
his show back. Basically, Um, there's always been like wow,
he's like I can't believe the saying like Nazi stuff. Um.
And this is from people both concerned about that and
excited about that, um four years um. And uh there's
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one piece. Uh he did this like three years ago.
Actually we did a piece on this on some More News.
It's called it's called Tucker Carlson is a line Craven
Dunce if you want to check it out. Um, but
it's about this article in National Geographic about this small
town called Hazelton Pennsylvania, and he talks about the graphic changes,
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and he's complaining about like we never like one of
his big things, like we never voted for this, we
never voted for demographics to change. Um. And it's very
interesting in a lot of ways. I'm not gonna unpack it,
but uh, most of it. It makes it clear that
he did not actually read this article, um, because much
of the article is about how and then after a
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while the town got used to it and now everybody
likes it and like they're all very neighborly. Some people
learned Spanish and like it's a very like like that's
what happens over time with immigration. It's it's right, like
there even studies like yeah, like yes there is tension
right away, that's humans are bad and that this is
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how they act. Um. But over time it improves, uh, socially, economically,
all the things get better. Um. That's what the article
was basically about, UM and laying out all these quotes
from people. He did not mention that at all all
and obviously not UM. But it's sort of like this
period of time where it's like he's not doing any work. Actually,
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this is like really lazy and it's sort of clear
like our our sixth graders writing these things for him. Um.
And he has had Nazis have to resign from writing
his show before that. Scotty Scott Greer, um, what's his name,
Blake Neff was his head writer, um, and he had
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to resign because people found posts from him that were
not it was Nazi ship. Um. And it's interesting to
me so much because he's able to say, like, yeah,
but we he resigned, he's not. And I've heard like
people argue this, like yeah, but they fired that guy. Um.
And it's like so if for a few years people
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watching this show have thought, wow, that's like that sounds
like a Nazi roaded, like this is Nazi stuff in
this way and in this way and in this way
and in this way Nazi stuff. And then it's revealed
that the head writer was like a twenty year old Nazi.
That seems to indicate a problem. Right. Even his his response,
uh to this was like you know, lofty bullshit, Tucker,
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Like we're all human, you know, when we when we
pretend we're holy, we're lying. Um. And one of the
things he said was that, uh, we don't In first
what Neff wrote anonymusy was wrong. It was wrong. Anonymously
was wrong. It wasn't wrong what he wrote on the show.
We don't endorse those words. They have no connection to
the show. Um. And it's that kind of stuff that's
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like so frustrating to see said and then have it
work is done by that point, like it doesn't matter,
it doesn't matter. But like just like being able to say, like,
we don't endorse those words, they have no connection to
the show. Well, actually everybody's been saying your show sounds
like it's written by nazis, and it was. They were
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correct about that, and now you're saying those words aren't connected.
It's like, well, no, we showed you. Um. And again
he obviously knows, um. But this is it's just a
long uh, it's a long line of these things happening,
um and nothing ever coming about from it. And then
more and more people watch his show, and it's maddening,
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is my point. I think, I think that's my my
ultimate It is very maddening. I mean you when you
were referencing Nick point As before the break, um, looking
at the quote and something that really like I had,
like it just made me like low key like gave
me chills. I'm scared of this line. But he says,
like what he thinks Carlson got right about the white
nationalist talking point, and he says, demographical replacement a d
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L is real. It's all there, a full red pill. Um.
Can you feel it? We are inevitable. That's terrifying. I
don't know. I hate that. Yeah, you see, uh see
that a lot these days to a lot of like
some torps from the federalist um get out. They're spelling
it out shamelessly like they know exactly. Yeah, they don't,
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because it's it's all gotten normalized enough that they don't
have to um, they don't have to be coy anymore.
They don't have to hide the power level. Because white
nationalism is not it's not the dominant strain of right
wing ideology, but it is a a main it is
mainstream now. It is one of the largest chunks of
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right wing ideology. And like now nowadays you get these
uh people sort of saying because like there there's some
still like mask on, like quote mask on, like that
I can see through that mask, but but like framing
it like, uh, it's inevitable, not not in this way,
not the fun test inevitable, but more in like a
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you know, if the left is going too far, now
we're gonna the right is gonna elect a fascist, like
not Trump fascist, but like a real fascist. And they're
saying it in a wave's like we don't want it
to happen, but if you keep acting like this, it's inevitable.
I might not even both a person, but it's gonna.
It's gonna happen. It's on you. Yeah, yeah, um, which
is like it's just like this like the slow normalization
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of all this stuff, and like so now they're just
saying that it's going to happen, and not in a
way where it's like it's gonna happen and I'm gonna
try to stop it. It's it's gonna happen, and Matt,
what's gonna happen? And that's good because otherwise people will
read I don't know, Ruby Bridges book about being a
young black girl trying to integrate into a school and
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being assaulted by white people. Uh, and if people read history,
we need a fascist to make sure that. Yeah, make
sure you can't read that history, yeah, or alter it.
We haven't gone to this point yet, but he he
compares what's happening to this country to Rwanda. Yeah, and
literally the Rwandan government like has altered history, like when
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it comes to what they've done and like what he's
referring to. Even it's really silly that he's comparing those
two things because the he's doing there, like the teaching
of critical race theory and schools, uh like lead people
to like it was just a massacre. Right of what
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years that it was, like the eighties or something in
the mid nineties Clinton was president, Um, Yeah, and a
lot of it was driven. A huge amount of the genocide,
at least ten percent of the total death toll, based
on the best surveys we have, was was driven by
talk radio. Um, you know, by by people who were
essentially Tucker Carlson's in their culture, trying specifically to do
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the kind of thing Tucker is going to do if
he ever gets the chance. Yeah, the same way like
the right, Like people on the right are trying to
rewrite what's happening in America like that that's literally what
we want. Yeah, they rewrote their history to like make
it this like national Like we were in the right
the whole time. We did what we could x y Z.
It's all it's all sort of circulating this like preserve
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of myths and stuff, and that's what like, that's what
of myth I like that it's a large part of
the projects and like yeah, like they want to. It's
why the you know, the there's the six nine project
and then response Trump and his administration of goof goof
abouts uh did there's project, which was literally just like no, actually,
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like America is fucking perfect and here's how it happened,
and it's just like, no, we need to we need
to have these national myths to be true otherwise it's
chaos like well, or like people aren't again, they're not children.
They can they can learn things and and and process
them and analyze them in ways that don't make them
jealous little five year olds, I guess. But I think
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that Carlson treats his viewers like children. It works, like
literally it works. And that's what's unsettling is that over
three million people watch his show like every time it's on,
and he talks to them like children, and they're hooked,
like they're like, yeah, not along, and so it's just
a little bit unsettling when that actually is the reality. Yeah, yeah,
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I mean it's it's uh or well read about the
two minutes hate and the main thing he got wrong
is that people actually want a lot more than two
minutes of that every day, at least at least a
tight thirty, right, at least a tight thirty Yeah, um,
even these uh like it is it is that like
because it feels like the things he's saying are it's
written by like like fifth grade Nazis and it's four
(35:29):
like sixth grade like maybe Nazism. Even his his little
like twenty minutes segment about how America is great because
we don't eat dogs. Um, it was prefaced with him
being like, there's a lot of news out there, folks,
like we know, we like it's too much, like you know,
if you get overwhelmed, and like you'll if you want
if you pay too much, like literally literally one of
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the lines is if you pay too much attention, you'll
think America is a bad country, which is like, yeah,
I guess so yeah, but like framing it like and
so we're like for the first twenty minutes, we don't
normally do this. We're going to just talk about how
nice things are, and then he did this whole thing
about how like, yeah, look at the lakes we have
and the trees are nice, and it is just their
(36:13):
children that he's talking to. Um, it's very embarrassing. The
policies you specifically advocate will poison those lakes or sell
them off to nees lye uh and lead to the
destruction of those trees. Change accelerated wildfires like the ones
burning four hours south of a right now. And I
don't know, godie, what an hour north of you? Yeah?
(36:34):
So close, so close? Yeah, you know you won't poison
our freshwater lakes and leave our children gasping in the
deserts of the future that used to be riverbeds. Can
you say this with confidence? Whoever it's going to be,
I absolutely cannot cook. All right, Okay, these products and
(36:55):
services maybe part of the machinery of death that's slowly
choking our planet, but not a part. And what what
are you gonna do? Not by products? Here's hats together,
everything down. We're back. And we were just talking about
(37:19):
how more and more people are watching Techo Harrison all
the time. Not quite true. Yeah, Robert has good news
where well it's not great news based on kind of
the most recent data I was able to find about
his show um it in like the last couple of months,
there was a slight drop in overall viewers UM but
(37:43):
a slight raise in key demographic viewers, which is adults
among from to fifty four UM so overall slightly fewer.
Maybe they died of COVID because he told them not
to get vaccinated. That said, it's it's not like he's
he has a alid base of listeners. It doesn't seem
it's not like exploding, but it's big and it doesn't
(38:04):
seem to be really shrinking. Also, it's possible that it's
sort of uh, wearing thin a little bit because he
also has that morning that daytime show now to where
he interviews people, so like he's just doing so much
and wrong all the time so much that maybe they're like,
all right, we it's like what Tucker will I watch today?
He's got two shows out every day about the the
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n S a ship he brought up, which I guess
the gist of it seems to be that Tucker Carlson
was trying to or isn't it was in the process
of trying to reach out to someone within the Russian
government who could get a message to Putin to try
to interview Putin right, Um, and he started making the
claim that the n s A that someone had told him,
(38:52):
someone within the government had told him that the n
s A was spying on him and engaged in a
conspiracy to destroy his television show. Um. The n s
A has said they were not spying on Tucker Carlson,
which it's both a lie and true. I believe they
were not specifically spying on Tucker Carlson. I think they
were spying on Tucker in the way they're spying on
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literally all of us. Yeah. Also, just it's wild to
me that this is because the n s A doesn't
really make a lot of statements like public It is wild.
It's so wild that this is a time where they're like, okay,
it's time to come out at the woodwork, like you
know what. It's just whenever the n s A or
the FBI in particular, or Homeland Security make a specific
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statement about whether or not a case exists, or a
specific statement about an ongoing case, that's a big deal.
Because they're of the time. They do not make any
kind of comments about ongoing Okay, So it's it's kind
of shows that like they saw this as something they
had to get out in front of. Um. Now that said, again,
the n s A is always lying because they're the
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n s A also always lying the liar um and
loves the attention and loves to be loves he loves
to be targeted. Um, I will say so important just xactly,
he's finally guys a revenge for not getting in c
I A. Um. But I will say so like there
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he's a liar and says a lot liars. Um. Uh,
there's probably a reasonable explanation for this. Again, Like it's
the same thing with like a lot of the Trump
Russia stuff where it's like, yeah, we were like spying
on like people and then you talked to those people,
and so we have that communic Actually, like if he's
reaching out to especially if they're foreign registered foreign agents
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in the United States, it would totally make sense that
the n s A would have gotten a record of
like whatever. And that said, there's no Ever, however, the
president of the current one and our government has made
it very clear that they view white supremacy as a
domestic terrorist threat. And I am generally aware of what
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the government does with who they view as terrorists. So
it would stand to reason that they could very well
be like, well, he's the leader, he's the guy, he's
the propagandist doing all this stuff. Um, but it does
seem like there's a more reasonable explanation for this than that.
I don't think without giving Like again, I have very
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famously uh done some like U in the past. I
I have communicated with people for the government whose job
is to look into white supremacy. Right. Um, I would
be shocked if there was any kind of understanding or
acceptance at the kind of levels necessary to approve surveillance
(41:45):
of an individual that Tucker Carlson is a major part
of the white supremacy like he is. I would be
shocked if that was If anyone with any kind of
power in the n s A was willing to acknowledge that,
I would be completely shocked. Um. I just don't believe
that's what's going on. I think it's very likely he
was he was reaching out to somebody in the connected
(42:06):
to the Russian government, and maybe he wanted this, he
wanted his interview. And again, the n s A hoovers
up every single thing everyone ever says. Probably so, I'm
sure they're spying on him to that extent, right, Um,
but I don't well the idea like they're going to
try to take down his Fox News show, which which
(42:27):
like all is like not possible. That's the other thing
where it's like he's gonna be on the air forever.
He that's how that's how self important he thinks he is,
Like he thinks he's so important that the NSA's ultimate
goal is to cancel his TV show. Yeah, and there
was a fun story from Axios that suggests he's really
(42:49):
angry at Fox, um because they wouldn't like he's been
blowing beating this drum that like the n s A
spying on me, the n s A buying on me,
and Fox News hasn't covered it at all, Like they
haven't done like the actual news chunk of Fox is
just kind of like let that one be. That's weird
because like especially Fox News would be like we gotta
(43:12):
talk about this, like that seems like, uh, the kind
of red meat that they love. So the fact that
they're not addressing it at all is they also haven't
issued any statements of public support for Carlson, nor have
they condemned the n s A which kind of suggests
like either they know it's bullshit or they're like, well,
we don't want to we don't want to touch this.
(43:33):
This is just like, yeah, right, more attention to this,
I guess, but didn't they so uh so. In a
text to a CNN reporter, Carlson called the allegation that
he's angry with Fox executives absurd. He said, I'm not
mad at anyone at Fox. If I was, i'd say, so,
I'm mad at you for lying relentlessly. What a loathsome
person you are. Please print that. Yeah, that's that's classic.
(43:56):
That's how he talks. People hit it up and it's
like that's a text, Like yeah, not everyone talks like
they text. But yeah, no, that's exactly Like even the
cadence is there. I don't like that ice. Yeah, a
(44:18):
moment of silence for Cody's sense of inner peace. Yeah.
Just the existential dread that's overwhelming assault. It's just oh,
it's so good. You gotta love existential dread. Of the
dreads easily my favorite kind of no questions, no question. Yeah, Um,
I don't know. I don't know what else to say
(44:41):
about Tucker Carlson. Uh talking about I mean the critical
race theory. There's a bigger sub story and critical race theory,
which is like the speed with which the entire right
wing picked this up and and like got their marching
orders and set to work trying to criminalize the teaching
of history, um, under the guys of stopping critical race theory. Um,
(45:05):
it's a real problem. It's a probe. Effectively, they all
get on the same message. Um. And also those campaigns
are Yeah, there's something also I think too, because it's
not just that they're very effective at it, because like
like this came from a guy who was like, we're
gonna critical race theory and we're gonna call everything that
and we're gonna do this, and like it worked really well.
(45:28):
They're also really good at not it's not just that
like they're focused, it's that they shift everybody else's focus.
Now you have Okay, well, I guess we got to
talk about critical race here. I guess we're gonna do
a whole explainer on that Guy's like, I guess that's
the conversation now. So there. They they introduce these things
that are these sort of like AstroTurf like campaigns of
(45:50):
like oh, they look at these angry parents. They're just
GOP operatives and things like that. But then it gets
people angry, and then the left has to be like, Okay, well,
all right, I guess we'll do We'll do what you
want to say. Yeah, I guess we have to address
this now because you won't shut up about it. Yeah. Um,
we'll continue not dealing with the climate because we've got
(46:11):
a yell about whether or not teachers can relay basic
facts about American history to children without getting arrested. And
it's no, like, yes, it would be nice to like, like,
as an example, have like the Democratic Party be able
to do that on things like climate, and just like, no,
this is what we're gonna talk about every day, all
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of us. You you you, I know, we were in
different states, but we're all talking about this. Um. And
they just suck so fucking bad at it. They do.
Um they're all useless, by which I mean liberals and
the entirety of the mainstream media. Um, they're all completely
(46:52):
have completely failed to adapt to the basic realities of
the new world and are still clinging to things like
the premise of objectivity, but only in a way that
empowers blatant falsehoods that will have criminalize the thing that
they do for a living. Um, we're all just kind
of marching towards the edge of a steeper and steeper cliff.
(47:12):
But you know what, Cody, one of these days, Packer
Carlson's gonna die painfully. Maybe maybe I've seen Cody smiled
before a lot of people don't. It's true now so
will everyone you love. But you know, you gotta you
gotta take the bad with the good. Why did you
(47:33):
have to daughter? Right? Never? Never? Yeah, smile number two?
Dogs even if they even if it did, all dogs
go to heavens. That's true. That's true. Well, I don't
know about that. It's a movie. Just go with it.
You never watched that cartoon growing up. It's great, it's
(47:57):
good where they go it's kind of scary. It was
one of the there's the two kinds of Disney movies,
the ones where the bad guy dies at the end
and the ones where he doesn't. And that's definitely one
where he like drives off a bridge or something, right,
m Yeah, yeah, hell was I think pretty disturbing to regard.
(48:21):
Don't go there. So, yeah, dogs don't go to hell. Um,
I don't know what should we? What should we in
this on? Something good happened? Right? Something happy? Okay, Okay,
I have something. Oh I've got something. Okay, yeah, you
can start as Sophie. Okay, here's my something that I
just saw from the at potus account on on Instagram.
Uh So, in order to get young people vaccinated, Joe
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Biden has posted a young Joe Biden photo as a
thirst trap to be like, I know this young person
would have gotten vaccinated, which fucking kidding me? Did they
use the terms thirst trap Biden's people? No, well I
use that I'm Sophie, but yeah, but what it is,
(49:04):
but it's that's what it is. It's it's and it's
the it's it's the one like this, like fucking like
what was the other day there was like a picture
of Kamala and Joe and they're walking and they're like,
we don't get a case of the Sunday scarys when
we're working for the American people. It's like, stop sucking
(49:24):
talking like you're it's be a president makes them more,
you guys, Look how good young Joe Biden looks in
this third shirt. But also like I feel like that
kind of tactic to be like to just keep doing
(49:48):
these really stupid ways to try to confiscialtet vaccinated. Like
I obviously think people should get vaccinated too, but it
kind of like none of this is going to work,
but also feeds the people that are like the government
is forcing us to get vaccinated, Why trying so hard?
Why are they trying so hard? It's like I don't
like that their attempt is kind of doing the opposite
of what it should. Text about vaccines like well, we
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won't get vaccinated people. I understand it's weird have the
government talking to you about this stuff, but also please
still get the vaccine, but also like, yeah, there's one
person that kind of made me, Uh, they made me
feel like because I don't trust the garden, that we
should never trust the government, but me getting vaccinated was
(50:31):
like they trust the government more than I do, or
they don't trust the government more than I do, Like
they're not going to get vaccinated because we don't trust anything,
Like you're you're a sheep, You don't you don't trust
this guy, this, this, you don't trust this photo of
young Joe Biden telling you to get vaccinated before the
vaccine even created I don't know, Like I will agree
(50:52):
with you. The government has a shitty track record on
just about everything. You know, it is a great track
record the concept of vaccinations. Raise your hand if you
know someone who's died of polio. Yeah. The argument that
I've seen sometimes is like cancer has been around for years,
we don't have a cure for cancer, And it's like,
shut up, we can cure a lot of cancers. Actually, yeah,
(51:15):
we have a lot of treatments for cancer. Doesn't keep
have a lung cancer vaccine? Yeah it's a specific type, right,
but yes, But still where their arguments are just what
I'm trying to say, It's like they will list different
things like there's no cure for this yet, how could
there be a cure? Like, it's hard people, it's not cure. Also,
(51:39):
it's not a cure. Also, like it was a very
clear Like if your point is that we should actually
like pull all of our resources together and quickly try
to cure diseases so everybody can can have like health care,
then make that point. But that's not what they're saying.
They're just making excuses like the military and try to
make that happen for you. But right, like the air
(52:00):
have to carry your money and put it towards doctors.
But like what they're all they're doing is saying like
like they're not just not recognizing. Yeah, for a year
everyone was like, we gotta we gotta make a vaccine.
That's the goal. Yeah, so we did that. Um, if
only we could do that for other things, and if
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only they had a different fucking tactic that wasn't insufferable
in social media to make it happen. But I'm curious, Robert,
what was your happy thing? I do have something happy.
No that for later tonight though. Um. When I'm in
bed with Mitch McConnell, nothing gets Mitch McConnell off like
young pictures. Nothing, nothing gets his powder out like nothing,
(52:44):
nothing spurts that dust from his I've never been dryer.
Neither is Mit Sharine. Um. So there's this pastor in
Oklahoma named Jackson Lamyer Um lay Meyer something like that
(53:04):
who's running a primary challenge to Republican Senator James Lankford. Um.
And he's running to the right of this guy right, Um,
and he's yelling that Lankford didn't challenge the certification of
Joe Biden's election victory. Uh. He's you know, a pro
January sixth capital attack kind of person, huge maga guy,
And over the last couple of months he's like embraced
(53:25):
Q and On. He's done like pictures with Q people,
and like he's clearly trying to use Q and on
to like help get elected. Right. Um, there was a
problem though earlier in July, uh someone took a picture
of his daughter on the campaign trail and she was
wearing red shoes. Now, because Q and ON people all
have given themselves a terminal case of brain worms, they're
(53:47):
convinced that red shoes are how members of the cabal
secretly signal while in public that their pedophiles. And so
now a bunch of Q people are convinced that this Q,
like this this past sars daughter is a pedophile, and
he had to take to Facebook and like complain about this. Um.
I've been the ministry for years, never any accusations whatsoever.
(54:09):
Now all of a sudden, I being accused of everything
under the sun by one particular woman, and some people
don't have enough discernment to determine right from wrong. Unfortunately,
I have to say it because people are asking me
I'm in no way involved with child sex, trafficking, pedophilia,
or devil worship worship if you believe that, it actually
says more about you than it does me. Um, it's
just so funny because it's like, yeah, motherfucker, that's what happens.
(54:29):
And by the way, his daughter in this is like ten,
Oh my god. Yeah. So I don't know. I think
maybe they're saying that her red shoes are like a
sign that he's a pedophile, right, it's her. Yeah, it's
as horrible nonsense, but it's like, that's why you don't
give these people the time of day or or treat
them like they're legitimate, because it just makes their more
(54:50):
of them and they just get more and more unhinged
and you can't control them, you fucking idiot. But also
for she's going to come back against all of you
one of these days. Yeah, and if you hadn't heard
about that, like, oh, I didn't consider that until you
said that you like that, but you mentioned that I
will associate you with these things. I don't know. I
just it was funny, even though the reason why it
(55:12):
happened is also very frightening. Sometimes thinks it's wild that is,
that's so like it's just such as it's people locked
in their houses whose families won't talk to them because
they're clearly deranged, spending all of their time looking at
like photos and videos of people they've never met but
(55:33):
are convinced are part of a satanic conspiracy, trying to
find more reasons to believe in that conspiracy. That's all
that it is. One of the things they sat they
site probably is like the Wizard of Oz, Dorothy was
really going through it, you know, like that was that's
a pedophile movie. Now she just needs the red shoes. Um,
I mean, probably were some pedophiles involved with that movie
(55:54):
because it was Hollywood. But yeah, that's neither here nor there.
Really the first fresh shoes I think of are are those?
For some reasons? I'm just like, I wonder why they're
very famous red shoes. Yeah, they are very famous red shoes. Ye.
Look the yellow brick wrote, No, I'm not even gonna okay, Um,
we should just we should bring this, we should bring
this to an in yeah and all my very terrible joke.
(56:16):
Let's do that mean? Thanks for we can find online
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and I am sorry, and I am sorry. We're all sorry.
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We are sorry that we didn't spend more time talking
about the powdery nature of Mitch McConnell's ejaculate. It's the
whole hour next week, it's biology, Like, what do we like?
We're not gonna shame him how he is. Why would
we shame him for the fact that sometimes spider eggs
get caught in his pea hole and he ejaculates live
spiders with the dust. I wouldn't shame him for that.
(57:02):
I don't know. Don't body shame people you disagree with. Okay,
that is fair, I agree with that kind And yet
here we are disparaging his powder, his powder problem. Here
disparaging his powder. I can make a joke about the
movie Powder, which was made by a pedophile, but instead
I'm just gonna end the episode. Good, thanks for having me.
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It was like multiples. It was. It was multiple as
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we said, turn on the Sharine signal, and Sophie was like,
we spent thank god, we spent a quarter of a
million dollars on that signal. We really need to justify
that money to corporate and by god we did. We
are here. We are Wow. That's I mean, honored, blessed, honored,
Thank you so much. That's both of you. Maybe white
men aren't terrible, thank you, that's exactly what Cody and
(02:37):
I are trying to do every day convince people that
white men are good, just just to just to get
people to say it on record. Now it's I mean,
now it's recorded. Now they can use that for anything
I ever say. You know, any time by trash or
white dude, they're going to play that on loop and
be like Sharin says, hashtag not all white men. Oh God, suicide.
(03:03):
That is Twitter suicide speaking of white men and of
a kind of suicide. I guess we should talk about
Tucker Carlson. Oh good, I love, I love, I mean,
I always forget how good your segways are, but you
surprised me every time continued. That's the only thing I
went to college for Sharene seven years. Yeah, I mean,
it was four years of intense instruction than three years
(03:25):
of apprenticeship to the actual guy who runs the Segway
company until he drove off that Cliff in Scotland had
died on a segue. Um alright, pe. Needless to say,
I was taught by the best. How do you feel
about Tucker Carlson, Shermine. I want to throw up just
hearing his name. I imagined his stupid face. I'll scrunched
(03:48):
up every time I imagine a stupid face, and his
look on his face just constantly makes me mad. I
don't think a lot of people I can just look
at in my blood boils and I just don't like him. Draine,
do you remember what I told you last time you
came on behind the Bastards No, that you're my favorite
person to make fun of white man? Yeah? I was like,
(04:11):
oh no, did she morphy that to say what I
told you? Remember when I still fitting that you are
today for this event. I mean, this is my favorite hobby.
I think I'm okay at it, you know, like everyone
has their strengths. I'm not good at much else. Um
So I just love to tear apart dumb white men.
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And he's one of the dumbest. He's one of the dumbest,
you know. I wish I agreed with you that he
was dumb. And I think there was a time when
we all thought that, right when when Jon Stewart had
that was probably the apex of us thinking that John
Stewart could be a force for good in the universe
when he when he embarrassed Tucker Carlson on National TV,
but then to the point of getting his show canceled
(04:54):
to the point of getting his show canceled, but Tucker
didn't stop wearing. He did staff wearing about power. Um,
it was a nice moment. It was one of those Uh,
John Stewart, I wish you'd retired after that and never
come back into the public eye and it we could
have just remembered you from that moment and your your
(05:14):
appearance on Half Baked, which was also pretty SOLIDUM. Oh
and the faculty. Yeah, but he had to come back
into the public anyway, Unfortunately. UM. Tucker Carlson also didn't
disappear from the public eye. And he's kind of built
over the last really in particular the last four years.
(05:35):
Um turned himself into the mouthpiece of the American fascist
movement on cable and he is the most popular cable
news host something or something like three million people tune
into his show every uh however often is nightly. Right. UM,
he's very popular and he's uh, he's very extreme. And
(05:59):
I can remember her. When I first started thinking about
him was kind of you know, I was doing anti
fascist research starting like two thousand eighteen or so, is
really when I got switched over from studying you know,
Islamic extremism to that, and I mostly focused on like
what what actual Nazis were saying in their little chat
rooms to each other, And they kept bringing him up, Um,
(06:20):
and usually they would say, like, oh, he's a cuck,
but he's right about some things. But like I noticed,
over the course of a couple of years there being
this like growing appreciation for his ability to mainstream white
nationalist talking points. Um Daniel Harper, who does the wonderful
podcast I Don't Speak German, and as a great researcher,
Um pointed out that Chris Cantwell, crying Nazi from from
(06:41):
the Charlottesville Unite the Right rally, would have go on
his show and like play Tucker segments and then read
sections of mind comp that like lined up with the
point that Tucker was making in that segment, and it's
it's I mean, I've gone from being like, oh, he
was just another Fox host to know he might be
the most dangerous man in America, like legitimately might be
(07:02):
the most dangerous certainly within the American media. You know. Um, Yeah,
he's the he is the he's like the text like
textbook definition of a fascist propagandist. That's what he does.
That's his that's his role and that and he knows
that that's his role. Yes, I guess, like my impulse
is never to give that that kind of person that
(07:23):
much credit, Like I don't want to believe they're that
successfully smart and good at what they do. But I
guess in this case, he's probably not that dumb and
he knows exactly what he's doing and he's feeding the
flame of these very hateful people. Um but what but
every time? So last year, remember that thing that happened
(07:45):
where Fox News one a court case saying that Tucker
Carlson is not journalism, he's not a journalist, like you
should never take him seriously, Like how does how does that?
That's the only thing I think of when I think
of him now, Like literally, they I don't know, thinkyally
about media. It doesn't matter to the people who like him.
(08:05):
Alex Jones has had the same thing, Like Alex Jones
has had his lawyers explained like he's, um, he's not
telling the news, right, He's not. Like this is like
a performance, right, That's happened a few times. This isn't
even the first time Fox News has gone in court
and argued like no one would mistake what we're doing.
They literally said that no reasonable viewer would take him seriously.
(08:26):
Like that's that's pretty funny. I think it a bunch
of times recently too. Yeah, like where they like, yeah,
Rachel Meadow, like she exaggerates, she's a hyper hyperbolic and
it's not like it's not straight news. I mean. And
the reason that you would say something, it's the easiest
legal argument to make to defend yourself in that situation, right, um,
(08:49):
because if your entertainment this isn't real and they know
no one's like none of none of Maddow's fans think
any less of her as a result of that. None
of Carlson's fans give a shit about least quarter. It's
just like none Alex owns his fans giving you know,
they just want the things to be said to like
most people in the country, right yeah. I do think
Before so, before we get like really really deep into this,
(09:10):
I wanted I think that there's an important passage from
Tucker's biography. God he well because he is like so
he's um, he is. The things he says on television
are very silly and stupid, and you can watch any
of his monologues and go that's not true or like
well that doesn't make any sense. Uh, And we could
(09:30):
go through many, many examples. He did five minutes, like
a five minute like fifth grade book report on like
why America is great, and it's like part of it
was like how we don't eat dogs and stuff like that.
It's just nonsense. He's so silly, especially since we thought
we picked though, Like it's like, yeah, the whole thing
is just like Also in the in the in the
(09:52):
segment he's talked started talking about like the beautiful trees
that America has and it's all photos of palm trees
which were brought all. Uh so he's just a silly man. Um.
But I think something that speaks the most to him
and what an absolute fraud he is, even though he
is like he's a smart liar. Um is this passage
(10:15):
from Tucker describing he used to be like a quote journalist.
He actually wanted to work for the c I a
UM but they rejected him, and so he was in print.
And uh, here's this little, short, short, little paragraph. It's
about his first appearance on television. I was heading back
to my desk with a takeout hot dog. First of all,
(10:36):
what a fancy boy calling it a takeout hot dog.
I was heading back to my desk with a takeout
hot dog, that phrase that people use. One afternoon, when
I ran into the receptionist, she asked me what I
knew about the o J trial. My instinct was to answer, honestly,
just about nothing. But for some reason I caught myself.
I asked her why she wanted to know. Well, she explained,
(10:58):
Dan Rather's booker, just call looking for an o J
expert to go on forty eight hours tonight. Everyone else
is still at lunch. Can you do it? He was
on TV that next, Like that's his origin story, is
lying about knowing about stuff. Yeah, and I think that
is all you need to know about him. But the
(11:18):
fact that he said that himself is hilarious to me.
Like he just admitted to just get the ultimate bush.
He just does not care and it works for him.
That's why that's a whole type of person um. There's
actually a lot of like evolutionary psychology theory devoted to
why certain individuals, like the evolution of overconfidence. Right, because
(11:39):
you have this, everyone knows about the Dunning Kruger effect, Right,
The idea that the people who are most confident of
their abilities often are the least capable in the things
that they're most competent about are confident about right, people
overestimate their own level of confidence constantly. And there's the
question is like I write about this in my book
A Brief History Advice. But the question is like, why
(12:00):
is that so common? Because it seems maladaptive? Right, it
seems like it would just get you killed, uh, and
that wouldn't be such a common thing, but it's everywhere,
it's all over uh civilization, And clearly it's clearly it's
not maladaptive. Is the is the is the reality? So
why is that? One of the theories is that you
essentially you have two organisms, right um and and a
(12:21):
resource in between them, food or something both of them wanted,
both of them neither of them knows if they would
win in a fight against the other. The one that assumes,
of course I would win in this fight and goes
for the food. Sometimes it might get into a fight
and it might lose that fight, but more often than not,
the other organism is going to back off to avoid
the fight, and then it gets the food. Like being
(12:42):
overconfident when you have nothing to back it up. Is
actually a really smart evolutionary strategy. And yes, some fraction
of people who have the same kind of brain worms
Tucker Carlson has die or get embarrassed on live TV
and laughed out of civilization, but a lot of them
wind up millionaires who successfully wrenched the national political wheel
harder towards fascism. Um, which is a bummer to think
(13:05):
about that way, but that's the way it is. Yeah, um, yeah,
it is. He is. He can say what he wants
and no matter how silly or very obviously wrong. It's
very frustrating to watch him speak, actually, because it's like
I want, I want to speak to him in a
room like for just a few minutes with no cameras around,
(13:27):
because he is he's so obviously aware of how full
of shitty is um. But he'll never I'll never, He'll
never face that music. No, And it wouldn't matter if
he did. There's literally nothing you could get him to
say in private that would have any influence on how
his fans see him because and that's just ne that's
(13:49):
not a Tucker thing, that's an everyone thing. Right. That's
why cancel culture is such a ridiculous idea because by
the time anyone is famous, whatever crimes they commit are
very unlikely to have any sort of broad impact against
their fan base because everything is a cult today um,
and cults are famously immune to rationality, which is coming
(14:11):
across as more hopeless than I think it is. But
on the upside, everyone dies. That is the one sure
thing that will happen. That is the only thing we
can really know that everyone does. Death is the ultimate equalizer. Yeah,
eventually all of these people and all of their fans
will be dead and something else will exist and it
will also probably suck, but I don't know, but then
(14:34):
it'll die. It'll die too, Yeah, exactly. See, everything's fine. Yeah,
this is the confidence we need. Everything will die, but
crocodiles and great white sharks, yes, any tart grades and
tart grades of course, and the American dream and the
American dream so looked up, like I guess. Returning to
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the subject of Tucker Carlson, so about like I don't know,
like a month ago. Uh, he got on his show
and he started talking about like replacement theory. Ship in
replacement theory. Will remember the christ Church shooter who you know,
gunned down fifty people in mosques. His manifesto was called
The Great Replacement, and it was about white genocide. This
idea that liberals and cultural Marxists are using refugees to
(15:25):
replace white people. Um, which is I don't think we
need to say this in our show, but it is
obviously false. There's, for one thing, more white people than
there I've ever been at any point in the history
of the planet. Uh. If you're of all the things
to worry about the anyway, it's just it's it's it's
all pensively ridiculous. Well yeah, it's ridiculous, but also like
(15:46):
who cares. Yeah, you're you aren't being replaced. You are
your children might look different than if you sucked a
white person. No fun who you want? Like the whole
thing is just nonsense. Um, I mean who Because like,
if you really want to look, you'd say, like, hey,
on a long enough timeframe, all of the races are
going to get replaced by different races because people will
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interbreed to the extent that people will be different in
twenty thousand years than they are today in a variety
of ways. Because that's just evolution. Because yeah, it's just
like it presupposed all this stuff about like like it's
it's it's fearful to people who think that, yeah, uh,
that certain races have certain qualities, right exactly, like culture
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and the culture is connected to in a in a
way that that they can't separate, so they're they're fearful
of Like, well they this, then then they're all gonna
be like this and it's just nonsense. And his argument
is so funny though, because didn't he say something about like, uh,
like pretend you're in sixth grade and your your family,
uh suddenly adopts children that don't look like you and
(16:55):
they all get new bikes, And to say that, like
what do you think, like, oh, my parents love these
children more than they love me and my white brothers
and sisters. It was the most ridiculous parallel I've ever heard.
But that's what he does. He makes it this like passionate,
like like this isn't real, like white people are like
(17:16):
the favorites of the world or whatever he's trying to say.
Like it's so ste he's very he's very quote good
at that, like appealing to emotion because that's all he has.
He doesn't have actual information or facts. If fact check constantly.
It's always he's always wrong um or misrepresenting something. It's
always emotion and taking these like very childish analogies because yes,
(17:39):
I guess that is how a child would react if
that happened. Hey, that's not happening, Uh be if it were.
You're an adult, Tucker, you know vote is children? You
know why, Yes, they're bad at judgment, like the idea
that like, of course adults are gonna act like fucking
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kids if something different happens in this Like it's so,
it's so it's equating like the parents with America, like
even mom and the parents are just like mom and
dad America. And then suddenly they're preferring in his mind
like people of color, immigrants or whatever, and white people
are just getting forgotten about there literally being replaced, and
(18:24):
it's just it's just so silly and just like I mean,
and people do this all the time with like the
budget national budget is like your budget at home. It's like, well, no,
it's not. I can't print my own money. I can't
like as you like all this all the reasons that's silly. Um.
But if you want to make a point that's wrong,
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that's how you do it and you get people to
emotionally invest in this idea and go, oh wow, that's right.
I just love that, Like he puts it in words
like my listeners will understand if I equate them with
a sixth grader. Well that's the amazing. Like you think
about how you could extend his logic, and it's like, well,
you wouldn't trust a nine year old with a four
D F one fifty, so they shouldn't be legal because
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what if a nine year old was able to drive one.
It's like, well, yeah, children often make bad judgmental choices.
I'm sure a kid would feel jealous in that situation.
That's not a yeah, that's not a reason. Also, some
children can be sat down and explain things too, and
then they'll be like, oh, I guess I didn't look
look at it like like that. You're right, I'm not
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gonna act like it's child. It's almost like, I I
feel dumb that we're like arguing this out because we're
putting more thought into it than he ever did. Like
that's not I didn't need to bring it up to
argue it out. I just thought it like that parallel,
so I'll find it two year that I saw. But
there it's perfectly emblematic of how he presents his his
(19:50):
what his fascist bullshit, like you wrap it up this
way because it's like folksy and it's always harkening back
to are like, yeah, it's all but all. But the
actual message is really sinister, which is, among other things,
we don't have enough to take care of other people,
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like your family will go without if we provide basic
life saving care to to other people. If other people's
and the extension of that is if people who are
not white and in the United States have a decent
standard of living, it means you're suffering. Like that is
where that thinking goes. But and here's the thing, and
it will probably get to it with one of the
(20:31):
quotes about the larger topic we're talking about. But one
thing that he does, um, that is very sinister one
of the many things, uh, because he says stuff like
that all the time, you're being replaced this, this, this,
you know they're taking this from from us. Uh. And
you know if if if they can do this, and
then what are you going to have? And so and
so forth. He never puts forth the idea that we
(20:54):
should take care of everybody. He's not like, he's not
like a socialist. He's not saying you should have socialized
healthcare him a socialist, I'm familiar, but like but but
there's no but he never he never actually pairs it
with anything tangible that they should be doing. He always
frames it like they're not trying to make your lives better.
(21:15):
You don't want them to make their lives better, because
any suggestion on how to do that, you'd say, it's
like comic stuff, and like it's destroying America. Um So
it's it's it's it's all these layers of of uh,
this like sinister approach of like they're going to take
everything from you, but also like the government can't give
you stuff we should we shouldn't like do anything about it.
(21:37):
Um So it's again it's like it's it's it means
in National Socialists what it is? Um. I just hate
him so much And how he slips this stuff in
um where he will say like, yeah, uh, the government
doesn't want to help you, you don't want them to
help him them. He frames himself as like a man
(21:59):
of the people, when he's like Swanson air boy who
doesn't actually want taxes to be raised or any any
sort of social programs. No, because that would mean less
for him if other people aren't an absolute desperation. Tucker
Carlson is at least less relatively wealthy than them, and
he can't handle that. There's a bunch going on. Like
the quote from last month or I guess month before
(22:23):
last that was so unsettling was demographic change. This is, Tucker.
Demographic change is the key to the Democratic Party's political ambitions.
Let's say that again for emphasis, because it is the
secret to the entire immigration debate. In order to win
and maintain power, Democrats plan to change the population of
the country. They're no longer trying to win you over
with their program. They're obviously not trying to improve your life.
They don't even really care about your vote anymore. Their
goal is to make you irrelevant. And that This is
(22:48):
one good example of like how his stuff is because
that that is great replacement there, that's great. Now, when
Nazis say great replacement, they talk about how you know,
they'll use they use racial slurs. They'll talk about white
people are being replaced like with you know, these lesser
human beings. You can't say that on TV, even Tucker's listeners,
most of them would be like, Oh, that's kind of
(23:08):
fucked up. But you can say it this way. You
can say instead of you know, these racial slur, racial slur,
racial slurs are going to replace and you know, rape
all the white women. You say, the Democratic Party is
demographically changing this country in order to gain power, and
they're trying to replace you or make you irrelevant. Um.
And the Nazis recognize quite frankly, that Tucker is a
(23:30):
better propagandist than them. UM. And I found a good
Vanity Fair article that kind of broke down the response
to thus just this broadcast UM through the kind of
far right media ecosystem. UH. Users on four Chan, we're
saying stuff like holy shit, I just watched Tucker's replacement segment.
This is a turning point in the program. People praise
him for quote naming the Jew on national television, which
(23:53):
is the thing they do. I think a phrase Nazis
used to where you're basically saying, like, your goal is
to name the Jew, and increasingly public play is to
point out that white America's ills are responsible for the Jews.
They saw what him blaming that I'm a correct party
as him naming the jew. People said ship like hail Tucker. Um.
They compared him to v d AIR, which is a
white nationalist anti immigration organization. Uh. Nick Flintees tweeted this
(24:18):
week Tucker red pilled four million people and there is
nothing liberals can do about it. Um. And and Nick
Flintes is a he's a Holocaust denier, He's a Nazi. Um.
He's the head of the Groper Movement, which is a
a far right like teen dominated right wing movement. Um.
He's he's the most of the actual like openly fascist activists.
(24:40):
He's the one who worries me the most. He's got
some strong George Lincoln Rockwell vibes to me. But you
know who doesn't have strong George Lincoln Rockwell vibes? God
simply safe does not. Um. That's right, Cody, that's right
together everything. Oh, we're back, and we're talking about which
(25:10):
of our sponsors aren't white nationalists And the answer is
all of them aren't. No white nationalist sponsors on this
show unless the Koke Brothers or Black Rifle Coffee have
gotten another ad through, in which case we apologize for
advertising a white super advertization. Yes, convinced it happens occasionally.
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Uhans Robert Cody, what if this you say each other's
names back, Robert Sharrodi Shardi Scharodi. If you guys were
like like a like a like a road act, that
would be your name. I mean road isn't there too? Well?
(25:55):
Sure it's like positive, like yes, yes, So I actually
wanted to talk briefly about Uh Tucker Carlson. Oh if
that's okay, like out of the blue. Um, he's so
(26:15):
he's actually been. It's it's interesting because this the audience
has always been there and they've always been hinting at
this stuff, um for years, like since he got his
his show back. Basically, Um, there's always been like wow,
he's like I can't believe the saying like Nazi stuff. Um.
And this is from people both concerned about that and
excited about that, um four years um. And uh there's
(26:41):
one piece. Uh he did this like three years ago.
Actually we did a piece on this on some More News.
It's called it's called Tucker Carlson is a line Craven
Dunce if you want to check it out. Um, but
it's about this article in National Geographic about this small
town called Hazelton Pennsylvania, and he talks about the graphic changes,
(27:01):
and he's complaining about like we never like one of
his big things, like we never voted for this, we
never voted for demographics to change. Um. And it's very
interesting in a lot of ways. I'm not gonna unpack it,
but uh, most of it. It makes it clear that
he did not actually read this article, um, because much
of the article is about how and then after a
(27:22):
while the town got used to it and now everybody
likes it and like they're all very neighborly. Some people
learned Spanish and like it's a very like like that's
what happens over time with immigration. It's it's right, like
there even studies like yeah, like yes there is tension
right away, that's humans are bad and that this is
(27:44):
how they act. Um. But over time it improves, uh, socially, economically,
all the things get better. Um. That's what the article
was basically about, UM and laying out all these quotes
from people. He did not mention that at all all
and obviously not UM. But it's sort of like this
period of time where it's like he's not doing any work. Actually,
(28:08):
this is like really lazy and it's sort of clear
like our our sixth graders writing these things for him. Um.
And he has had Nazis have to resign from writing
his show before that. Scotty Scott Greer, um, what's his name,
Blake Neff was his head writer, um, and he had
(28:30):
to resign because people found posts from him that were
not it was Nazi ship. Um. And it's interesting to
me so much because he's able to say, like, yeah,
but we he resigned, he's not. And I've heard like
people argue this, like yeah, but they fired that guy. Um.
And it's like so if for a few years people
(28:50):
watching this show have thought, wow, that's like that sounds
like a Nazi roaded, like this is Nazi stuff in
this way and in this way and in this way
and in this way Nazi stuff. And then it's revealed
that the head writer was like a twenty year old Nazi.
That seems to indicate a problem. Right. Even his his response,
uh to this was like you know, lofty bullshit, Tucker,
(29:14):
Like we're all human, you know, when we when we
pretend we're holy, we're lying. Um. And one of the
things he said was that, uh, we don't In first
what Neff wrote anonymusy was wrong. It was wrong. Anonymously
was wrong. It wasn't wrong what he wrote on the show.
We don't endorse those words. They have no connection to
the show. Um. And it's that kind of stuff that's
(29:34):
like so frustrating to see said and then have it
work is done by that point, like it doesn't matter,
it doesn't matter. But like just like being able to say, like,
we don't endorse those words, they have no connection to
the show. Well, actually everybody's been saying your show sounds
like it's written by nazis, and it was. They were
(29:58):
correct about that, and now you're saying those words aren't connected.
It's like, well, no, we showed you. Um. And again
he obviously knows, um. But this is it's just a
long uh, it's a long line of these things happening,
um and nothing ever coming about from it. And then
more and more people watch his show, and it's maddening,
(30:18):
is my point. I think, I think that's my my
ultimate It is very maddening. I mean you when you
were referencing Nick point As before the break, um, looking
at the quote and something that really like I had,
like it just made me like low key like gave
me chills. I'm scared of this line. But he says,
like what he thinks Carlson got right about the white
nationalist talking point, and he says, demographical replacement a d
(30:42):
L is real. It's all there, a full red pill. Um.
Can you feel it? We are inevitable. That's terrifying. I
don't know. I hate that. Yeah, you see, uh see
that a lot these days to a lot of like
some torps from the federalist um get out. They're spelling
it out shamelessly like they know exactly. Yeah, they don't,
(31:04):
because it's it's all gotten normalized enough that they don't
have to um, they don't have to be coy anymore.
They don't have to hide the power level. Because white
nationalism is not it's not the dominant strain of right
wing ideology, but it is a a main it is
mainstream now. It is one of the largest chunks of
(31:27):
right wing ideology. And like now nowadays you get these
uh people sort of saying because like there there's some
still like mask on, like quote mask on, like that
I can see through that mask, but but like framing
it like, uh, it's inevitable, not not in this way,
not the fun test inevitable, but more in like a
(31:47):
you know, if the left is going too far, now
we're gonna the right is gonna elect a fascist, like
not Trump fascist, but like a real fascist. And they're
saying it in a wave's like we don't want it
to happen, but if you keep acting like this, it's inevitable.
I might not even both a person, but it's gonna.
It's gonna happen. It's on you. Yeah, yeah, um, which
is like it's just like this like the slow normalization
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of all this stuff, and like so now they're just
saying that it's going to happen, and not in a
way where it's like it's gonna happen and I'm gonna
try to stop it. It's it's gonna happen, and Matt,
what's gonna happen? And that's good because otherwise people will
read I don't know, Ruby Bridges book about being a
young black girl trying to integrate into a school and
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being assaulted by white people. Uh, and if people read history,
we need a fascist to make sure that. Yeah, make
sure you can't read that history, yeah, or alter it.
We haven't gone to this point yet, but he he
compares what's happening to this country to Rwanda. Yeah, and
literally the Rwandan government like has altered history, like when
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it comes to what they've done and like what he's
referring to. Even it's really silly that he's comparing those
two things because the he's doing there, like the teaching
of critical race theory and schools, uh like lead people
to like it was just a massacre. Right of what
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years that it was, like the eighties or something in
the mid nineties Clinton was president, Um, Yeah, and a
lot of it was driven. A huge amount of the genocide,
at least ten percent of the total death toll, based
on the best surveys we have, was was driven by
talk radio. Um, you know, by by people who were
essentially Tucker Carlson's in their culture, trying specifically to do
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the kind of thing Tucker is going to do if
he ever gets the chance. Yeah, the same way like
the right, Like people on the right are trying to
rewrite what's happening in America like that that's literally what
we want. Yeah, they rewrote their history to like make
it this like national Like we were in the right
the whole time. We did what we could x y Z.
It's all it's all sort of circulating this like preserve
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of myths and stuff, and that's what like, that's what
of myth I like that it's a large part of
the projects and like yeah, like they want to. It's
why the you know, the there's the six nine project
and then response Trump and his administration of goof goof
abouts uh did there's project, which was literally just like no, actually,
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like America is fucking perfect and here's how it happened,
and it's just like, no, we need to we need
to have these national myths to be true otherwise it's
chaos like well, or like people aren't again, they're not children.
They can they can learn things and and and process
them and analyze them in ways that don't make them
jealous little five year olds, I guess. But I think
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that Carlson treats his viewers like children. It works, like
literally it works. And that's what's unsettling is that over
three million people watch his show like every time it's on,
and he talks to them like children, and they're hooked,
like they're like, yeah, not along, and so it's just
a little bit unsettling when that actually is the reality. Yeah, yeah,
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I mean it's it's uh or well read about the
two minutes hate and the main thing he got wrong
is that people actually want a lot more than two
minutes of that every day, at least at least a
tight thirty, right, at least a tight thirty Yeah, um,
even these uh like it is it is that like
because it feels like the things he's saying are it's
written by like like fifth grade Nazis and it's four
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like sixth grade like maybe Nazism. Even his his little
like twenty minutes segment about how America is great because
we don't eat dogs. Um, it was prefaced with him
being like, there's a lot of news out there, folks,
like we know, we like it's too much, like you know,
if you get overwhelmed, and like you'll if you want
if you pay too much, like literally literally one of
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the lines is if you pay too much attention, you'll
think America is a bad country, which is like, yeah,
I guess so yeah, but like framing it like and
so we're like for the first twenty minutes, we don't
normally do this. We're going to just talk about how
nice things are, and then he did this whole thing
about how like, yeah, look at the lakes we have
and the trees are nice, and it is just their
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children that he's talking to. Um, it's very embarrassing. The
policies you specifically advocate will poison those lakes or sell
them off to nees lye uh and lead to the
destruction of those trees. Change accelerated wildfires like the ones
burning four hours south of a right now. And I
don't know, godie, what an hour north of you? Yeah?
(36:34):
So close, so close? Yeah, you know you won't poison
our freshwater lakes and leave our children gasping in the
deserts of the future that used to be riverbeds. Can
you say this with confidence? Whoever it's going to be,
I absolutely cannot cook. All right, Okay, these products and
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services maybe part of the machinery of death that's slowly
choking our planet, but not a part. And what what
are you gonna do? Not by products? Here's hats together,
everything down. We're back. And we were just talking about
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how more and more people are watching Techo Harrison all
the time. Not quite true. Yeah, Robert has good news
where well it's not great news based on kind of
the most recent data I was able to find about
his show um it in like the last couple of months,
there was a slight drop in overall viewers UM but
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a slight raise in key demographic viewers, which is adults
among from to fifty four UM so overall slightly fewer.
Maybe they died of COVID because he told them not
to get vaccinated. That said, it's it's not like he's
he has a alid base of listeners. It doesn't seem
it's not like exploding, but it's big and it doesn't
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seem to be really shrinking. Also, it's possible that it's
sort of uh, wearing thin a little bit because he
also has that morning that daytime show now to where
he interviews people, so like he's just doing so much
and wrong all the time so much that maybe they're like,
all right, we it's like what Tucker will I watch today?
He's got two shows out every day about the the
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n S a ship he brought up, which I guess
the gist of it seems to be that Tucker Carlson
was trying to or isn't it was in the process
of trying to reach out to someone within the Russian
government who could get a message to Putin to try
to interview Putin right, Um, and he started making the
claim that the n s A that someone had told him,
(38:52):
someone within the government had told him that the n
s A was spying on him and engaged in a
conspiracy to destroy his television show. Um. The n s
A has said they were not spying on Tucker Carlson,
which it's both a lie and true. I believe they
were not specifically spying on Tucker Carlson. I think they
were spying on Tucker in the way they're spying on
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literally all of us. Yeah. Also, just it's wild to
me that this is because the n s A doesn't
really make a lot of statements like public It is wild.
It's so wild that this is a time where they're like, okay,
it's time to come out at the woodwork, like you
know what. It's just whenever the n s A or
the FBI in particular, or Homeland Security make a specific
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statement about whether or not a case exists, or a
specific statement about an ongoing case, that's a big deal.
Because they're of the time. They do not make any
kind of comments about ongoing Okay, So it's it's kind
of shows that like they saw this as something they
had to get out in front of. Um. Now that said, again,
the n s A is always lying because they're the
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n s A also always lying the liar um and
loves the attention and loves to be loves he loves
to be targeted. Um, I will say so important just xactly,
he's finally guys a revenge for not getting in c
I A. Um. But I will say so like there
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he's a liar and says a lot liars. Um. Uh,
there's probably a reasonable explanation for this. Again, Like it's
the same thing with like a lot of the Trump
Russia stuff where it's like, yeah, we were like spying
on like people and then you talked to those people,
and so we have that communic Actually, like if he's
reaching out to especially if they're foreign registered foreign agents
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in the United States, it would totally make sense that
the n s A would have gotten a record of
like whatever. And that said, there's no Ever, however, the
president of the current one and our government has made
it very clear that they view white supremacy as a
domestic terrorist threat. And I am generally aware of what
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the government does with who they view as terrorists. So
it would stand to reason that they could very well
be like, well, he's the leader, he's the guy, he's
the propagandist doing all this stuff. Um, but it does
seem like there's a more reasonable explanation for this than that.
I don't think without giving Like again, I have very
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famously uh done some like U in the past. I
I have communicated with people for the government whose job
is to look into white supremacy. Right. Um, I would
be shocked if there was any kind of understanding or
acceptance at the kind of levels necessary to approve surveillance
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of an individual that Tucker Carlson is a major part
of the white supremacy like he is. I would be
shocked if that was If anyone with any kind of
power in the n s A was willing to acknowledge that,
I would be completely shocked. Um. I just don't believe
that's what's going on. I think it's very likely he
was he was reaching out to somebody in the connected
(42:06):
to the Russian government, and maybe he wanted this, he
wanted his interview. And again, the n s A hoovers
up every single thing everyone ever says. Probably so, I'm
sure they're spying on him to that extent, right, Um,
but I don't well the idea like they're going to
try to take down his Fox News show, which which
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like all is like not possible. That's the other thing
where it's like he's gonna be on the air forever.
He that's how that's how self important he thinks he is,
Like he thinks he's so important that the NSA's ultimate
goal is to cancel his TV show. Yeah, and there
was a fun story from Axios that suggests he's really
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angry at Fox, um because they wouldn't like he's been
blowing beating this drum that like the n s A
spying on me, the n s A buying on me,
and Fox News hasn't covered it at all, Like they
haven't done like the actual news chunk of Fox is
just kind of like let that one be. That's weird
because like especially Fox News would be like we gotta
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talk about this, like that seems like, uh, the kind
of red meat that they love. So the fact that
they're not addressing it at all is they also haven't
issued any statements of public support for Carlson, nor have
they condemned the n s A which kind of suggests
like either they know it's bullshit or they're like, well,
we don't want to we don't want to touch this.
(43:33):
This is just like, yeah, right, more attention to this,
I guess, but didn't they so uh so. In a
text to a CNN reporter, Carlson called the allegation that
he's angry with Fox executives absurd. He said, I'm not
mad at anyone at Fox. If I was, i'd say, so,
I'm mad at you for lying relentlessly. What a loathsome
person you are. Please print that. Yeah, that's that's classic.
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That's how he talks. People hit it up and it's
like that's a text, Like yeah, not everyone talks like
they text. But yeah, no, that's exactly Like even the
cadence is there. I don't like that ice. Yeah, a
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moment of silence for Cody's sense of inner peace. Yeah.
Just the existential dread that's overwhelming assault. It's just oh,
it's so good. You gotta love existential dread. Of the
dreads easily my favorite kind of no questions, no question. Yeah, Um,
I don't know. I don't know what else to say
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about Tucker Carlson. Uh talking about I mean the critical
race theory. There's a bigger sub story and critical race theory,
which is like the speed with which the entire right
wing picked this up and and like got their marching
orders and set to work trying to criminalize the teaching
of history, um, under the guys of stopping critical race theory. Um,
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it's a real problem. It's a probe. Effectively, they all
get on the same message. Um. And also those campaigns
are Yeah, there's something also I think too, because it's
not just that they're very effective at it, because like
like this came from a guy who was like, we're
gonna critical race theory and we're gonna call everything that
and we're gonna do this, and like it worked really well.
(45:28):
They're also really good at not it's not just that
like they're focused, it's that they shift everybody else's focus.
Now you have Okay, well, I guess we got to
talk about critical race here. I guess we're gonna do
a whole explainer on that Guy's like, I guess that's
the conversation now. So there. They they introduce these things
that are these sort of like AstroTurf like campaigns of
(45:50):
like oh, they look at these angry parents. They're just
GOP operatives and things like that. But then it gets
people angry, and then the left has to be like, Okay, well,
all right, I guess we'll do We'll do what you
want to say. Yeah, I guess we have to address
this now because you won't shut up about it. Yeah. Um,
we'll continue not dealing with the climate because we've got
(46:11):
a yell about whether or not teachers can relay basic
facts about American history to children without getting arrested. And
it's no, like, yes, it would be nice to like, like,
as an example, have like the Democratic Party be able
to do that on things like climate, and just like, no,
this is what we're gonna talk about every day, all
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of us. You you you, I know, we were in
different states, but we're all talking about this. Um. And
they just suck so fucking bad at it. They do.
Um they're all useless, by which I mean liberals and
the entirety of the mainstream media. Um, they're all completely
(46:52):
have completely failed to adapt to the basic realities of
the new world and are still clinging to things like
the premise of objectivity, but only in a way that
empowers blatant falsehoods that will have criminalize the thing that
they do for a living. Um, we're all just kind
of marching towards the edge of a steeper and steeper cliff.
(47:12):
But you know what, Cody, one of these days, Packer
Carlson's gonna die painfully. Maybe maybe I've seen Cody smiled
before a lot of people don't. It's true now so
will everyone you love. But you know, you gotta you
gotta take the bad with the good. Why did you
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have to daughter? Right? Never? Never? Yeah, smile number two?
Dogs even if they even if it did, all dogs
go to heavens. That's true. That's true. Well, I don't
know about that. It's a movie. Just go with it.
You never watched that cartoon growing up. It's great, it's
(47:57):
good where they go it's kind of scary. It was
one of the there's the two kinds of Disney movies,
the ones where the bad guy dies at the end
and the ones where he doesn't. And that's definitely one
where he like drives off a bridge or something, right,
m Yeah, yeah, hell was I think pretty disturbing to regard.
(48:21):
Don't go there. So, yeah, dogs don't go to hell. Um,
I don't know what should we? What should we in
this on? Something good happened? Right? Something happy? Okay, Okay,
I have something. Oh I've got something. Okay, yeah, you
can start as Sophie. Okay, here's my something that I
just saw from the at potus account on on Instagram.
Uh So, in order to get young people vaccinated, Joe
(48:43):
Biden has posted a young Joe Biden photo as a
thirst trap to be like, I know this young person
would have gotten vaccinated, which fucking kidding me? Did they
use the terms thirst trap Biden's people? No, well I
use that I'm Sophie, but yeah, but what it is,
(49:04):
but it's that's what it is. It's it's and it's
the it's it's the one like this, like fucking like
what was the other day there was like a picture
of Kamala and Joe and they're walking and they're like,
we don't get a case of the Sunday scarys when
we're working for the American people. It's like, stop sucking
(49:24):
talking like you're it's be a president makes them more,
you guys, Look how good young Joe Biden looks in
this third shirt. But also like I feel like that
kind of tactic to be like to just keep doing
(49:48):
these really stupid ways to try to confiscialtet vaccinated. Like
I obviously think people should get vaccinated too, but it
kind of like none of this is going to work,
but also feeds the people that are like the government
is forcing us to get vaccinated, Why trying so hard?
Why are they trying so hard? It's like I don't
like that their attempt is kind of doing the opposite
of what it should. Text about vaccines like well, we
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won't get vaccinated people. I understand it's weird have the
government talking to you about this stuff, but also please
still get the vaccine, but also like, yeah, there's one
person that kind of made me, Uh, they made me
feel like because I don't trust the garden, that we
should never trust the government, but me getting vaccinated was
(50:31):
like they trust the government more than I do, or
they don't trust the government more than I do, Like
they're not going to get vaccinated because we don't trust anything,
Like you're you're a sheep, You don't you don't trust
this guy, this, this, you don't trust this photo of
young Joe Biden telling you to get vaccinated before the
vaccine even created I don't know, Like I will agree
(50:52):
with you. The government has a shitty track record on
just about everything. You know, it is a great track
record the concept of vaccinations. Raise your hand if you
know someone who's died of polio. Yeah. The argument that
I've seen sometimes is like cancer has been around for years,
we don't have a cure for cancer, And it's like,
shut up, we can cure a lot of cancers. Actually, yeah,
(51:15):
we have a lot of treatments for cancer. Doesn't keep
have a lung cancer vaccine? Yeah it's a specific type, right,
but yes, But still where their arguments are just what
I'm trying to say, It's like they will list different
things like there's no cure for this yet, how could
there be a cure? Like, it's hard people, it's not cure. Also,
(51:39):
it's not a cure. Also, like it was a very
clear Like if your point is that we should actually
like pull all of our resources together and quickly try
to cure diseases so everybody can can have like health care,
then make that point. But that's not what they're saying.
They're just making excuses like the military and try to
make that happen for you. But right, like the air
(52:00):
have to carry your money and put it towards doctors.
But like what they're all they're doing is saying like
like they're not just not recognizing. Yeah, for a year
everyone was like, we gotta we gotta make a vaccine.
That's the goal. Yeah, so we did that. Um, if
only we could do that for other things, and if
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only they had a different fucking tactic that wasn't insufferable
in social media to make it happen. But I'm curious, Robert,
what was your happy thing? I do have something happy.
No that for later tonight though. Um. When I'm in
bed with Mitch McConnell, nothing gets Mitch McConnell off like
young pictures. Nothing, nothing gets his powder out like nothing,
(52:44):
nothing spurts that dust from his I've never been dryer.
Neither is Mit Sharine. Um. So there's this pastor in
Oklahoma named Jackson Lamyer Um lay Meyer something like that
(53:04):
who's running a primary challenge to Republican Senator James Lankford. Um.
And he's running to the right of this guy right, Um,
and he's yelling that Lankford didn't challenge the certification of
Joe Biden's election victory. Uh. He's you know, a pro
January sixth capital attack kind of person, huge maga guy,
And over the last couple of months he's like embraced
(53:25):
Q and On. He's done like pictures with Q people,
and like he's clearly trying to use Q and on
to like help get elected. Right. Um, there was a
problem though earlier in July, uh someone took a picture
of his daughter on the campaign trail and she was
wearing red shoes. Now, because Q and ON people all
have given themselves a terminal case of brain worms, they're
(53:47):
convinced that red shoes are how members of the cabal
secretly signal while in public that their pedophiles. And so
now a bunch of Q people are convinced that this Q,
like this this past sars daughter is a pedophile, and
he had to take to Facebook and like complain about this. Um.
I've been the ministry for years, never any accusations whatsoever.
(54:09):
Now all of a sudden, I being accused of everything
under the sun by one particular woman, and some people
don't have enough discernment to determine right from wrong. Unfortunately,
I have to say it because people are asking me
I'm in no way involved with child sex, trafficking, pedophilia,
or devil worship worship if you believe that, it actually
says more about you than it does me. Um, it's
just so funny because it's like, yeah, motherfucker, that's what happens.
(54:29):
And by the way, his daughter in this is like ten,
Oh my god. Yeah. So I don't know. I think
maybe they're saying that her red shoes are like a
sign that he's a pedophile, right, it's her. Yeah, it's
as horrible nonsense, but it's like, that's why you don't
give these people the time of day or or treat
them like they're legitimate, because it just makes their more
(54:50):
of them and they just get more and more unhinged
and you can't control them, you fucking idiot. But also
for she's going to come back against all of you
one of these days. Yeah, and if you hadn't heard
about that, like, oh, I didn't consider that until you
said that you like that, but you mentioned that I
will associate you with these things. I don't know. I
just it was funny, even though the reason why it
(55:12):
happened is also very frightening. Sometimes thinks it's wild that is,
that's so like it's just such as it's people locked
in their houses whose families won't talk to them because
they're clearly deranged, spending all of their time looking at
like photos and videos of people they've never met but
(55:33):
are convinced are part of a satanic conspiracy, trying to
find more reasons to believe in that conspiracy. That's all
that it is. One of the things they sat they
site probably is like the Wizard of Oz, Dorothy was
really going through it, you know, like that was that's
a pedophile movie. Now she just needs the red shoes. Um,
I mean, probably were some pedophiles involved with that movie
(55:54):
because it was Hollywood. But yeah, that's neither here nor there.
Really the first fresh shoes I think of are are those?
For some reasons? I'm just like, I wonder why they're
very famous red shoes. Yeah, they are very famous red shoes. Ye.
Look the yellow brick wrote, No, I'm not even gonna okay, Um,
we should just we should bring this, we should bring
this to an in yeah and all my very terrible joke.
(56:16):
Let's do that mean? Thanks for we can find online
helping us actuately. Unfortunately, I am online if you want
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on Twitter and just Shiro hero on Instagram, and uh
and I am sorry, and I am sorry. We're all sorry.
(56:39):
We are sorry that we didn't spend more time talking
about the powdery nature of Mitch McConnell's ejaculate. It's the
whole hour next week, it's biology, Like, what do we like?
We're not gonna shame him how he is. Why would
we shame him for the fact that sometimes spider eggs
get caught in his pea hole and he ejaculates live
spiders with the dust. I wouldn't shame him for that.
(57:02):
I don't know. Don't body shame people you disagree with. Okay,
that is fair, I agree with that kind And yet
here we are disparaging his powder, his powder problem. Here
disparaging his powder. I can make a joke about the
movie Powder, which was made by a pedophile, but instead
I'm just gonna end the episode. Good, thanks for having me.
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