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Four hours, four hours.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Of aw last night, and hey, next week it's another
four hours. Got two hours of Impact tonight, three hours
of Impact tomorrow, three hours of SmackDown tomorrow, worlds collide,
money in the bank, man, We're just getting started, brother,
But we'll talk about that today. We'll get the uh,
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we'll get that Dynamite report in and talk about all
the news. Have you guys heard Vince McMahon sold stock.
It's true. Yeah, we'll talk about that for about ten seconds.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Today.
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Also got notes on Bill Goldberg. He's training for his
final match. He says he knows when it is, so
I guess he's trying to get in shape. But you
know he's fifty eight and he says things are tough.
We'll say by that. We got some NXT ratings for you.
Sting is going to be making a convention appearance during
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Speaker 2 (06:00):
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Speaker 1 (06:07):
Network of the show, Bryan Alvera is here a Wrestling
Observer Live. Filthy Tom is joining us here today. You
can pick that mic up anytime.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Brother, I'm in the house. Baby, God, where you go?
Speaker 1 (06:23):
We're gonna turn off that AC or something sounds like
a I don't even.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Know what god every day.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Well it's loud, dude, we can all hear it. What
do you want me to do? You're doing a radio show, brother, Yeah,
move the mic closer.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
A little bit better.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
That's actually a little bit better.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
We got a lot to get into here today, an't
we three? Actually four hours?
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Four hours gonna jam?
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Four hours?
Speaker 4 (06:48):
How much do you watch you? I watched the highlights,
I watched the majority of the four Way with Kenny
Omega and the I guess non title match between John
Moxley and Briscoe. But tough to catch up on a
four hour show, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
You're asking me. I'm telling you, I'll do my best
to cover the rest of it. Yeah, there's four hours yesterday,
four hours next Wednesday, and I was really thinking of
I was thinking of going to that show next Wednesday.
But it's like I ain't driving and the way down
because it would be during the day. It's probably gonna
be like four hours, four hours down, four hour show
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and then three hours best Like it ain't happening. If
the show were only two hours, i'd consider it, But
I ain't driving down there and watching four hours and
having to get back. It's just not happening. So I
guess I'll have to go to to aw and Kent,
which actually I don't even think they I don't think
they advertised it at all on the show last night.
They did the week prior, which was good, but they're
(07:52):
coming to the show where center in Kent and h
and it's bizarre.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Because it's like when is that next week?
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Well, it's weird. I can find it I think it's
a It might be a couple of weeks. No, next
week is Portland obviously, so I think it's a week after. Yeah,
But it's weird because they're running like I mean, I
think they're running Saturday at the Showear Center and then
for for Collision, and then they're running the following Wednesday
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for Dynamite. So I think, like everybody just has to
fly out here and just chill out and kentt for
like five days. Let me, let me find the let
me let me. I want to make sure I get
this right because I remember reading and thinking, wait, what
you're coming.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
I mean, hey, if you're gonna be up there now,
it's probably the time to be there.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Well, I mean, this is the best time to be
up here. But I mean it's just kind of a weird.
Why would you come up here? Yeah, they're they're here
June twenty first, Saturday, and then they're here the same
building on Wednesday. So it's not like they rented the
building and they're taping just like Dynamite and Collision and
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everybody can like fly in then go home. It's like
people gotta fly in like Friday, and then they have
to stay here. Till like Thursday.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Well not necessarily because not everybody goes to all the shows.
I guess some guys are only at Collisions, some guys
are only at Dynamite, so that's weird.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
But anyway, that's coming up.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
All right.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
A couple of news notes here. Former WWE chairman Vince
McMahon sold one point five million shares of TKO.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
No. I thought he was buying it back. What happened?
I thought, come on.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
You know what's funny? Is uh? I mean, I'm sure
it's been in other places, But like Dave spends so
much time on Twitter, like he brought this up, and
I remember he goes. Everyone's talking about how they think
Vince's and I was like, they are, I have absolutely
no idea what you're talking What are you talking about?
And I guess it's like it was a big discussion
(09:55):
yesterday maybe Vince is gonna buy back WWE, And it's like,
if you're not on Twitter twenty four seven, I have
no idea, Like I was way over my head. He's
not buying back WWE. Everybody. I mean, I think that's
all we need to say. If you want more, I
guess you can go to Twitter but it's not happening.
But anyway, he sold some shares and according to Dave
(10:16):
he's got eight percent left. According to Brandon Thurston, he's
got three percent left.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Oh the battle continues between these two. Yeah, yeah, we
need to have a math battle.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Well it's not. Now here's the thing, because everyone's bringing
up math and how he wanted me to do math
last night. It's actually not an issue with math. It's
an issue with how many total TKO shares there are.
Dave claims there's eighty one million. Thurston claims there's one
hundred and ninety two million or something like that. So
that's where the discrepancy lies. Okay, And I'm pretty sure,
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you know, I'm pretty sure Thurston is talking about the
total number of available shares of all TKO and Dave
is talking about like the outstanding shares that can be
purchased by the public or whatever. So I think they're
both right. But making deal with that, I'm I'm out.
I don't you know what the big thing is. I
don't care. The point is he sold some stock and
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he's not buying the company back, So what difference does
it make. He has no voting like he can't vote.
It doesn't matter if he's got three percent or eight percent,
it doesn't matter. So like, I don't understand the argument.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
I do care because I got some money come in
my way. And what I want is I want some
of those Vince McMahon stocks. That's what I want. I
want some of the shares that he's putting on the mar.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Deal with him then, not me. Everyone needs to deal
with everybody else and not me. That's the new rule.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Okay, I'll meet him on fourteenth and I.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
All right, do it or one, whatever the hell it is.
I think it's fourteenth and I I Street because you know,
they had to come up with a name for the street,
and they just went alphabetically and numerically that.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
Is Washington, DC. I mean, it's an easy way to
create a grid. Our forefathers, not Matt and Nick Jackson,
but the other ones were not exactly known for their
you know, creativity and style looking back on it, or
maybe they were.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Hey, how you feeling by the way you got cracked
again the other day?
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Right?
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Are you getting more straight?
Speaker 4 (12:22):
It's Pride month, buddy, Yeah, so answer the question. Okay, yeah,
I'm I feel better?
Speaker 1 (12:29):
You do feel better?
Speaker 4 (12:30):
I feel better, But I mean, I don't know. Like
I said, I don't know that I'm necessary. Well, the first,
the first.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Couple of times you went, you said you didn't feel worse. Okay,
now you're actually feeling better. So that's that's it's an improvement.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Let me let me tell you a little story here.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Okay. I like stories.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
I go to the go to the chiropractor. He says, hey,
come on Friday, I get a great massage lady here
for you.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
So I come in, we tell the story, and observer okay, yes.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
So I show up and uh, no one, No one
gives me the iggy. No one tells me what the
deal is. Well, this poor.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Lady, what kind of deal? What are you talking about?
Speaker 4 (13:09):
Completely blind? But I don't know that. So I shake
her hand and I start walking towards the room with her,
and uh, I'm taking up most of the space. And
she walked face first into the wall.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Tom, don't laugh, dude, you should be ashamed of yourself.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
I'm not. I mean, I am ashamed of I'm not
gonna laugh. I am ashamed of I'm not ashamed of myself.
Someone should have told me, well.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
That's true. Someone should have told you.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
And then the other day I'm in there and somebody
she hears somebody else, so she starts talking to them
and I go, hey, I think it's I think you're
looking for me. And I'm like, what a what a bonehead?
What an idiot? I am?
Speaker 1 (13:58):
I don't know about an idiot, but I can confirm
your bonehead. I've never seen as giant, bony ahead as you,
as you possess.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
You have not seen the Neanderthal vos grone who's fighting
an octagon mma. Then, but we're way off topic now
we are.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
So but you got a massage and you got adjust
it again, and you're starting to feel a little better.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Yeah, I feel a little better. Okay, see how things
go good?
Speaker 1 (14:20):
There's only about what seven more appointments the guy wanted
out of you.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
I don't think he's getting what he looked for in seven, but.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
It's gonna be seventy by the time this is all
said and downe. Good thing. You're getting that settlement money.
You're gonna need it. Thanks well, I mean, based on
the number of times you're gonna have to go see
this fella. I don't know what he's charged. Actually, I
do know what he's charging you, but we don't need
to talk about that. Goldberg is feeling every part of it,
he says as he trains for his final match.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
I've got a massage lady he can go to.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Yeah, fix him, he says. On his car cast podcast,
he revealed a list of ailments, including a left knee
injury that made him extremely limited for some of the training.
He said he's winding down his training. Hopefully the world
will soon know when my retirement match is. It's uncharted
water because not many people my age have done this,
(15:13):
and I'm not just showing up to show up. I
need to show up and be me, and I've tapped
into me a little bit more as of late my
training with all the injuries my age, makes it extremely
difficult to get prepared without going overboard. Well, that's true.
Hurt myself a couple of times in the past three months.
He's working through his shoulder injury rendered him unable to
lift his arm for six months. That sucks. The afore
(15:34):
mentioned big word left knee injury hurts when he runs, well,
stop running first suggestion. He's working on cardio through using
a sprint bike, kickboxing and other things, and he said
he had to pulled back through the mileage on his body.
So we'll find out soon when and where. Wouldn't be
surprised if it's a match with Gunther. Something happens with
(15:57):
Gunther and Jay Usso on Raw and then you know,
they do the big announcement. But I guess we'll find
out soon enough. Back in them with more exciting wrestling
coverage here on Wrestling Observer Live.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
You are listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alvarez
and Mike Sempervivi on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Back in the show, Brian Alvarez here, Wrestling Observer Live,
Dothy Thomas here NXT on Tuesday, six hundred and eighty
four thousand viewers and a point one five so normal number,
you know, and uh, it's eighty on the board. Here's
(17:00):
going on and on. Brian doesn't why he has brought
blah blah blah. Listen, when you look at these Netflix numbers, Okay,
obviously there's a decline from the first show. There always is, Okay,
but the Netflix numbers right now, they don't make any sense,
all right. The claim is there's like nine hundred and
(17:21):
seventy thousand people watching Raw over the course of the
entire day. That doesn't make any sense. This guy here,
he says, even if the math is flubbed a bit
based on guest work, guesswork, the trend is straight down.
The conversation that should be having is a continued on
guess is about same day viewing. The dude, the fact
(17:41):
that whatever numbers will kind of it's like straight down.
Like that doesn't make sense. Do you understand? I mean,
he doesn't understand because I'm explaining it to him, like
the trend. You're telling me that the trend on Raw
is straight down. They're just bleeding viewers. They've got the
lowest number of viewers they've ever had. Less than a
million people are watch Can over the course the entire day. Okay, However,
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NXT is normal, SmackDown is normal, Collision is normal, Dynamite
is normal. Every other show is normal. But somehow Raw
is the one show that is collapsing straight down, Like
am I the only one that doesn't make sense? That's
(18:23):
the point. Obviously, there's gonna be a little bit of
a decline happens with every show from the debut, But
there's something about these numbers it doesn't make sense. That's it.
Jimminy Christmas jumpin, Jehosaphat. Yeah, it's not about what do
(18:43):
you think about his beard. That's something we could all
sink our teeth into.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
I'm not gonna go that far. That seems like it
could be assault on some levels.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Oh man. By the way, Okay, listen, I gotta say
this all right, because I actually don't want to say.
I don't want to say what happened and to who. Okay,
people are gonna get mad, but I mean there's a
reason for this. We all know that Live Morgan had
a stalker and the stalker was allegedly arrested. Okay, okay, yeah,
(19:16):
I don't want to I don't want to say who,
and I don't want to say what they did because
I don't want people like looking for it and then
and then finding this. But there was another one today.
Somebody did something that they shouldn't have done. And uh,
I don't want to give the details, but I will say, uh,
as of a little while ago, like it was still
(19:38):
up and it might have it might have disappeared by now,
but I was I was told that that is is
being investigated. They're looking up the IP. They're trying to
find this person. So there was another person that did
a very stupid thing involving the w w E women.
And that's two days in a row now, and and.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
There's a lot of crazy stuff going on right now. Yeah,
Elon Musk just accused Donald Trump of being in the
Epstein Files Christmas.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
What next? But I gotta say, listen, I don't want
to make light of this. Okay, I don't want to
make light of this. I'm not trying to be funny, okay,
but I'm kind of laughing a little bit because there
was a sketch that ended up on Twitter of the
alleged stalker of liv Morgan. I'm actually gonna find out
(20:33):
exactly what the tweet said right here. Cops released a
sketch of an alleged stoker who was hanging around WWE premises.
The identity identity of the stalker still remains to be unknown.
This sketch, I'm not trying to be funny everybody. It
looks exactly like Vinnie. And in fact, I didn't even
(20:57):
comment on it. I just sent the tweet to Vinnie
and he was like, yeah, so it's not Vinnie. I
can be an alibi for Vinnie. He has certainly been around,
He's been over to the house a lot. But oh
my god, if you see this sketch, like the second
you look at it, you're like, that's Vinnie, but it's
(21:19):
not Vinnie. So anyway, what next tonight is Impact? This
whole thing We talked about it yesterday, like this whole
thing with you know, NXT and TNA and Triple A
and AW and New Japan and CML. I mean, this
is the most bizarre business. Tonight's Impact has Moose versus
(21:43):
Eric Young for the X Division title, Rosemary versus Aijah
Brookside and a monsters Ball match, Heather and m By
Elegance versus Harley Hudson and Myra Grace, The Nemoths and
Frankie Kazarian versus Santana, Matt Hardy and Leon Slater, and
the return of Joe Hendry. This is the home show
for tomorrow's pay per view, which has Trick Williams versus
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The Drifter for the TNA title. In the main event,
Masha Slamovich versus Ley ying Lee, the Nemoths versus The Rascals,
Steve Macklin and Mance Warner for the International Title Santino
versus Robert Stone for the Sole Director of Authority and
(22:25):
Joe Henry faces Frankie Kazarian Wild and then we got
the World's Collide on on Saturday. This is a joint
WWE Triple A show. The Kingo defends the Mega title
that he won from What's His Face Alberto al Patron
(22:45):
against Chad Gable, Ethan Page versus Javon Ray Phoenix and
Laredo Kid, Stephanie and Lola Weis versus Chic Tormenta and
Dalies Santo's Escobar, angel A Berto versus Eho Day, Doctor
Wagner Junior, Psycho Clown and Pegano Yes, Dragon, Lee Cruz
(23:08):
del Toro and Lindsey Dorado versus Aerostar Octagon Junior and
mister Iguana Holy Smokes.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
I saw an interview with mister Iguana on the UH
on the Old Ex earlier where he was saying that is.
They asked him what his hobby is his favorite hobby?
You know what he said, Brian jiu jitsu.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Really, I thought he was gonna say hanging out in
the sun.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
No. They also asked him what his greatest fear was.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
He said, grasshoppers, really, mister Iguana does jiu jitsu. Huh,
that's pretty cool. Money in the Bank's got Seth Penta,
El Grande Americano, Solo, Soco Andrade and La Night Money
in the Bank, Ria Ripley, Stephanie Roxanne, Naomi, Julian, Alexa Bliss,
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money in the bank, Johnsen and Logan, Paul Versus, Cody
and Jay Usso and Lyra and Becky for the Inner
Continental title. I'm trying to figure this out here.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
The woman's match, No, like Naomi's winning it well, Jade
Cargill's beating Tiffany for the belt. Naomi beats Jade Cargill.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Okay, that's that's definitely booking. I'm trying to figure out
how this could work.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Oh, Pegano gets lit on fire, but he wins the
match with a splash to a table.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
I'm trying to figure out the booking of the men's
money in the bank. If money in the Bank had
been in December, then I got the whole thing figured out.
But it's not. It's in June.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
Seth Rollins is winning and he's beating Jay Usso at
SummerSlam for the belt.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
See Al Grande Americano's in the match, but Chad Gable
is wrestling earlier in the day, so I think that
Chad Gable should suffer an injury. El Grande Americano would
win money in the bank, but unmasked as Kurt Angle,
who would then cash it on Johnson and beat him
in his final match. What do you think about that one?
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Good callback?
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Yeah, it's not bad, is it.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
I don't think it's happening.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Not bad? Well, it's not happening.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
You know.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
The last match that kurd Angle needs to come out
of retirement for is a ladder match, just so we know.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
But yeah, I was thinking that earlier this morning too.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Actually, well did she come out of retirement for the
ladder match?
Speaker 4 (25:33):
Yeah? That The last thing kerd Angle should do is
come out for that ladder match.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Sting has set for a convention appearance. I tried to
talk about earlier, but I was interrupted. He'll be the
Sheraton Arlington Hotel. July eleventh and twelfth, part of star
Cast and also part of this All In weekend. You
want to go it all in? What you doing that
weekend the twelfth or something? It's July eleventh and or
July twelfth.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Are you around Yeah, for some reason, I think I
got to be here.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
M I'm strongly considering it with each passing day. Come on,
going to Texas in the summer.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
It's gonna be hot. God, it's gonna be brutal. It's
outside or what the baseball stadium? Where's this show at?
Speaker 1 (26:19):
It will be at It's covered. It's globeal Life Field,
Globe Life Field, it's covered. I heard a voice in
my head just you know, so, Yeah, I'm thinking about it.
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Back in the show, Bryan Alvarez here, oh god, wrestling,
all right, let's talk about fighter Fest. Four hours of action.
I mean, honestly like it was a good four hours,
but man, by the end of that show, I was exhausted.
Then I had to do math. We had a will
Ospray interview and he talked about this whole thing with
(31:36):
Swerve and Hangman, and you know.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
What's going on with this will Osprey's trying really hard.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
He's between a rock and a hard place. Is the
problem here, and these guys don't want to work together,
but he thinks for the best interests of the company,
they should work together and win that title back from
Moxley and then I'll fight each other. But the other
two guys aren't into it. So out comes of all people,
the crew, and this sets up a match for later
on in the show, John Moxley, Mark Brisco excellent match,
(32:07):
a lot of blood, a lot of violence. Mark Brisco
is awesome. He was fighting for the for his child
after he got beaten last week. His kid thought he
gave up. Mark was going to prove he'd never give up,
and then the exact same finish happened. Is there like
a story we're going to here because that's just not right?
Speaker 4 (32:26):
Well, we do have six weeks until that aw pay
per view, so he's still plenty of more Timexley.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
But man, they did a number on poor Mark Brisco
here his kid. He ain't never gonna live this one down.
We had Tony Storm and Minashikwa versus Julia Hard and
sky Blue. This match was so much fun. Tony Storm
and minashir Kawa are the best team and like, all
I could think when this is over is they need
to be the women's tag team champions. But they don't
(32:58):
have women's tag team time idols and it's too bad.
They were great. We had a Max meeting with Ospray
and they teased a Bobby Lashley will Ospray match, and
he bets on whether that match is gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
Anybody did you notice the crowd firmly behind Lashly?
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Well because he used to live here. Yeah, they were
in Denver, and so immediately he came out and MVP
noted that Lashley used to live here but he moved
to Texas and he said, what do you think of
Denver and Lashly did the dramatic thumbs down, so they
were total heels. So then Max came out and he
wants a match at Grand Slam Mexico with Mystico. But
(33:43):
then Speedball Commander and Kevin Knight came out and they
said they wanted a match against the Hurt Syndicated and
MVP goes, nope, you need to earn it if you
want a shot impress us tonight. So it was Commander's
Speedball and Kevin Knight versus Rush Mortos and Drillistico and
they had an excellent match, excellent match, and in fact,
Kevin hit mortoas with the UFO splash got the win.
(34:07):
So MVP said, next week you guys can have a
trios match MJF Lashley and Shelton and he said, we'll
give you a preview right now, but the Babyfaces ran
them off and that was that. We add Christian and
the Patriarchy doing a promo only time on Brian and
Vinage tonight for this one. Christian signed him to a
(34:30):
four way for the Ring of Honor title later, but
what a crew he assembled. Max Caster's in the ring,
He's doing his gimmick. What are you doing, Max Caster?
(34:51):
You think it's an ice cream cone or something. Max
Caster does his deal five minute challenge. Hobbes accepts, kills
him in a minute, and uh yeah, you know, we
had four hours, so we had to do something. But
uh God, between Max.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
And uh.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
He a former partner, what's his name? Anthony Bowens? Yeah? My,
how the Mighty have fallen? And every week it gets
defended harder and harder, and every week they plummet further
and further. It's crazy.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
How come Bowens is still doing the scissor.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Because he wasn't doing it for a while and he
was even less over, so he's trying to bring back
something that the people were into. We had Kenny Brody
king Claudio and Muscaderoda fourway for the international title. Very
good main event. They made Dorata look like a million bucks,
which wasn't hard because he always looks like a million bucks.
Omega caught him one winged Angel got the pin and
(35:50):
then afterwards out comes Okada and they have a stare down,
They have a shoving match, they have a brawl. Oh god,
I got punched right in the frickin' mouth. I mean,
he just got jabber right in the face. He's bleeding,
his lips all busted open. They went for each other's finishers,
neither made it, and then they said there will be
(36:10):
a big announcement by Tony Khan later in the show,
a huge announcement by Tony Khan. I was like, man,
we haven't had one of those in a while. And
the huge announcement by Tony Khan was Tony Shavani said
they're having a.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
Match it all in, winner take all.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Winner take all. Yeah, we've known this for a while,
but yes.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
My prediction on the Prediction show is that this would
headline the show.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
I don't think it's gonna I don't think Hey, Ricochet
video package saying he's looking for a crew, which coincidentally
led to one member of the crew, Leo Rush, facing
Will Osprey and like it was fun for what it was,
but it's like it's every Osprey match. I'm gonna give
this guy like tons of stuff and make him look
(36:56):
like the star and then I'll win. And that's exactly
what happened here, even though Leo never wins and it's
a JOBB or team and then he gets attacked afterwards
by Action Andretti and Hangman has to make the save.
So now we'll have Ospray and Andretti coming up next.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
They keep foreshadowing that Ricochet will be joining with the crew.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Yeah, the crew.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
I think it's gonna be a swerve. I think it's
too obvious. I think it might just be the maybe
the top Flight crew.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Oh my god, Well he is a geek, you know,
so they do have many many geek teams that he
could team with to make it complete.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
Well, who's geek here? Now? The crew or top Flight?
Speaker 1 (37:37):
They're both geeks. I mean literally, they're both booked as
complete geeks. I would say that based on their ring outfits.
Leo Russian Action Andretti are bigger geeks. I mean, oh way,
I don't.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
Think the Nintendo switched to just hit today. And those
turtle shells that they're wearing are in high demand.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Baby there there.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
What were those little mushroom guys on the looked like
they stepped out of Mario card No, the original Super
Mario Brothers.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
They had those little what were those goombas? I forget
what they were called? Yeah, Coopa, what were they called?
They were called Coopa's Goombas are the little brown round
dudes that look like mushrooms. Yeah, but the Coopas were
the ones that had the spikes. Yes, okay, see I'm
not an.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
Idiot Bowser aka King Coopa. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Then we had also then we had a hangman cutting
a promo and he vowed that All in Texas would
be his night, and he promised he would never, under
any circumstances ever accept help from Swerve Strickland. This is
a lying babyface here. We got then Moxy hit the ring,
but Claudio or Will showed up with chairs and they
(38:45):
chased off the heels. We had a Don Kallis family promo.
He was out of his mind. They needed an extra
person for the six man later and ended up being
Etchi Sero and my god, Don Callos introducing this guy.
I mean, holy smokes, what a job he did?
Speaker 4 (39:04):
Is Hetcha Sero in now?
Speaker 1 (39:06):
No, he was just needed for the evening. I think
maybe he's in FTR versus Atlantis and Templorio. This was
a good match, but like FTR, like every match they
have is like incredible, and so this wasn't. So I
was kind of disappointed, but it was still really good
and of.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
Course finish kind this something didn't look right.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Well, what didn't look right was they did the ultimate
Warrior Rick Rude Bobby Heenen spot where the baby face
goes to suplex the heel in but the other heel
grabs the foot and then holds the foot down. But
for whatever reason, when Cash got his foot grabbed, he
like jumped to the middle of the ring and so
Dax can't even hold his foot down because he's too
far away. It was weird. It was this was pretty good,
(39:49):
but I expected better.
Speaker 4 (39:51):
Plus like Stokely should have been the one.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Yeah, you know what I mean, Stokely that is in
the match, and then you know, the announcer say FTR
a five match win streak, and so a normal person,
which I like to think I am, immediately goes, well,
when are they getting a tag team title match? And
there's no mention of the tag team titles? Stokely cuts
(40:15):
a promo, no mention of the Hurt Syndicate, no mention
of the tag team titles. It's like they've got the
bells on Hurt Syndicate, but they don't want to beat
them or even really have them sell for anybody, So
they have all of these tag teams that they won't
put with the Hurt Syndicate. It's like the Hurt Syndicate's
(40:35):
just us Island all their own and they just deal
with random geeks. But like all of the winning tag
teams have no It's weird. We had Bendido and Los
Outrunners versus Takeshta, Fletcher and Etchi Sero. Good match. People
were so one of these loss Outrunners and they made
the big comeback, but then Fletcher thwarted the s O
(41:00):
b elbow hit the brainbuster got the pin. Good match.
We had Penelope and Megan Bain being up ann a
j which led to the return of ty Mellow, so
she's back. We had Nick Wayne, Sammy Gavara, ar Fox
and Lee Johnson in a four way for the Ring
of Honor title and Nick one obviously, although the fans
(41:23):
were super an aar Fox, whose gimmick is he just
gets a title match every other week and he's never
ever won a singles match on AW television, not even
like a squash, He's never won a singles match on
AW television. But he just repeatedly gets title shots and
then afterwards Christian put the belt on Nick's shoulder. I'll
(41:44):
have a lot to say about this tonight, when I
got more time, we had Tekla and Lady Frost, which
I've been begging for matches like this in aw and
they finally did it, and it got over huge because
it's like common sense, but they never do it. It's
it's Tecla's debut. And she murdered Lady Frost. She murdered
(42:07):
her in like a minute and a half. I think
Lady Frost might have got a spot. I don't even
think she got that. She just got murdered. And then
she got murdered afterwards. And Queen Aminada had to come
down and throw a shoe at Techla to run her off,
because that's how you kill a spider, you know, you
hit it with a shoe. No one thought about that
but me, wake up everybody. And then Amanadad challenged Tecla
(42:32):
for next week. Luck with that one, we had the
huge Well, I don't either. I gently picked them up
with my hands and I deposit them outside.
Speaker 4 (42:44):
I eat them.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
Full of protein. Rpgvice and Josh Alexander and Lance Archer
Versus Paragon and Danny Garcia. Man, what is it with
this poor paragon. They are always put in like the
most let's put you in a position where you will
for sure get no heat, no matter how good the
matches they had that that death spotted the pay per
view and then they put him on here four hours
(43:09):
into the show. And by the way, everybody for the
record four hour edition of a w Tony still had
an overrun.
Speaker 4 (43:19):
Yep, never change.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
I gotta admit. The guy is like he is gonna
do what he is gonna do. Like you know what
he would have been. He would have been a great
fiddler on the Titanic. I mean, no matter what happens,
he's he's gonna play his music. That thing can hit
a it can hit an iceberg, it can start going down.
He's gonna play his music all the way down. So anyway,
(43:45):
the babyface is one when Cole pinned Rocky with the
uh the boom and he was wrestling was good, but man,
I was I was just I was so tired and
I gotta do it again next week. He is a
sick go Tony Khan is a sicko, you know what
I'm saying. That's why the sickos are are are so defensive.
(44:07):
Of everything that he does, because they're also sickos. They're
all sickos. Like you can see it. You can, you
can you can see how people are. And if you're
confused about anything in aw you don't understand Tony. And
if you think that everything is incredible, then you are
exactly like Tony. I think the issue is that the
(44:28):
vast majority of people on this planet are not like Tony.
Speaker 4 (44:33):
I talked to Tony a little bit backstage at that
Dean show, and you know what he wanted to talk about.
You already want to talk about Rick Flair in the eighties.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
That sounds about right back in a moment everybody was
a relive.
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Anyway, we got a lot to talk about, including a
NXT which it's funny like NXT ended, and I was like,
that's a pretty good show. And then I reviewed it
segment by segment yesterday and I just I hated it.
So we'll see what I feel like tonight and we'll
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Four hours gonna jam?
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Four hours?
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How much do you watch you? I watched the highlights,
I watched the majority of the four Way with Kenny
Omega and the I guess non title match between John
Moxley and Briscoe. But tough to catch up on a
four hour show, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
You're asking me. I'm telling you, I'll do my best
to cover the rest of it. Yeah, there's four hours yesterday,
four hours next Wednesday, and I was really thinking of
I was thinking of going to that show next Wednesday.
But it's like I ain't driving and the way down
because it would be during the day. It's probably gonna
be like four hours, four hours down, four hour show
(07:31):
and then three hours best Like it ain't happening. If
the show were only two hours, i'd consider it, But
I ain't driving down there and watching four hours and
having to get back. It's just not happening. So I
guess I'll have to go to to aw and Kent,
which actually I don't even think they I don't think
they advertised it at all on the show last night.
They did the week prior, which was good, but they're
(07:52):
coming to the show where center in Kent and h
and it's bizarre.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Because it's like when is that next week?
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Well, it's weird. I can find it I think it's
a It might be a couple of weeks. No, next
week is Portland obviously, so I think it's a week after. Yeah,
But it's weird because they're running like I mean, I
think they're running Saturday at the Showear Center and then
for for Collision, and then they're running the following Wednesday
(08:20):
for Dynamite. So I think, like everybody just has to
fly out here and just chill out and kentt for
like five days. Let me, let me find the let
me let me. I want to make sure I get
this right because I remember reading and thinking, wait, what
you're coming.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
I mean, hey, if you're gonna be up there now,
it's probably the time to be there.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Well, I mean, this is the best time to be
up here. But I mean it's just kind of a weird.
Why would you come up here? Yeah, they're they're here
June twenty first, Saturday, and then they're here the same
building on Wednesday. So it's not like they rented the
building and they're taping just like Dynamite and Collision and
(08:58):
everybody can like fly in then go home. It's like
people gotta fly in like Friday, and then they have
to stay here. Till like Thursday.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Well not necessarily because not everybody goes to all the shows.
I guess some guys are only at Collisions, some guys
are only at Dynamite, so that's weird.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
But anyway, that's coming up.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
All right.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
A couple of news notes here. Former WWE chairman Vince
McMahon sold one point five million shares of TKO.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
No. I thought he was buying it back. What happened?
I thought, come on.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
You know what's funny? Is uh? I mean, I'm sure
it's been in other places, But like Dave spends so
much time on Twitter, like he brought this up, and
I remember he goes. Everyone's talking about how they think
Vince's and I was like, they are, I have absolutely
no idea what you're talking What are you talking about?
And I guess it's like it was a big discussion
(09:55):
yesterday maybe Vince is gonna buy back WWE, And it's like,
if you're not on Twitter twenty four seven, I have
no idea, Like I was way over my head. He's
not buying back WWE. Everybody. I mean, I think that's
all we need to say. If you want more, I
guess you can go to Twitter but it's not happening.
But anyway, he sold some shares and according to Dave
(10:16):
he's got eight percent left. According to Brandon Thurston, he's
got three percent left.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Oh the battle continues between these two. Yeah, yeah, we
need to have a math battle.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Well it's not. Now here's the thing, because everyone's bringing
up math and how he wanted me to do math
last night. It's actually not an issue with math. It's
an issue with how many total TKO shares there are.
Dave claims there's eighty one million. Thurston claims there's one
hundred and ninety two million or something like that. So
that's where the discrepancy lies. Okay, And I'm pretty sure,
(10:50):
you know, I'm pretty sure Thurston is talking about the
total number of available shares of all TKO and Dave
is talking about like the outstanding shares that can be
purchased by the public or whatever. So I think they're
both right. But making deal with that, I'm I'm out.
I don't you know what the big thing is. I
don't care. The point is he sold some stock and
(11:12):
he's not buying the company back, So what difference does
it make. He has no voting like he can't vote.
It doesn't matter if he's got three percent or eight percent,
it doesn't matter. So like, I don't understand the argument.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
I do care because I got some money come in
my way. And what I want is I want some
of those Vince McMahon stocks. That's what I want. I
want some of the shares that he's putting on the mar.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Deal with him then, not me. Everyone needs to deal
with everybody else and not me. That's the new rule.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Okay, I'll meet him on fourteenth and I.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
All right, do it or one, whatever the hell it is.
I think it's fourteenth and I I Street because you know,
they had to come up with a name for the street,
and they just went alphabetically and numerically that.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
Is Washington, DC. I mean, it's an easy way to
create a grid. Our forefathers, not Matt and Nick Jackson,
but the other ones were not exactly known for their
you know, creativity and style looking back on it, or
maybe they were.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Hey, how you feeling by the way you got cracked
again the other day?
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Right?
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Are you getting more straight?
Speaker 4 (12:22):
It's Pride month, buddy, Yeah, so answer the question. Okay, yeah,
I'm I feel better?
Speaker 1 (12:29):
You do feel better?
Speaker 4 (12:30):
I feel better, But I mean, I don't know. Like
I said, I don't know that I'm necessary. Well, the first,
the first.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Couple of times you went, you said you didn't feel worse. Okay,
now you're actually feeling better. So that's that's it's an improvement.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Let me let me tell you a little story here.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Okay. I like stories.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
I go to the go to the chiropractor. He says, hey,
come on Friday, I get a great massage lady here
for you.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
So I come in, we tell the story, and observer okay, yes.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
So I show up and uh, no one, No one
gives me the iggy. No one tells me what the
deal is. Well, this poor.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Lady, what kind of deal? What are you talking about?
Speaker 4 (13:09):
Completely blind? But I don't know that. So I shake
her hand and I start walking towards the room with her,
and uh, I'm taking up most of the space. And
she walked face first into the wall.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Tom, don't laugh, dude, you should be ashamed of yourself.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
I'm not. I mean, I am ashamed of I'm not
gonna laugh. I am ashamed of I'm not ashamed of myself.
Someone should have told me, well.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
That's true. Someone should have told you.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
And then the other day I'm in there and somebody
she hears somebody else, so she starts talking to them
and I go, hey, I think it's I think you're
looking for me. And I'm like, what a what a bonehead?
What an idiot? I am?
Speaker 1 (13:58):
I don't know about an idiot, but I can confirm
your bonehead. I've never seen as giant, bony ahead as you,
as you possess.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
You have not seen the Neanderthal vos grone who's fighting
an octagon mma. Then, but we're way off topic now
we are.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
So but you got a massage and you got adjust
it again, and you're starting to feel a little better.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Yeah, I feel a little better. Okay, see how things
go good?
Speaker 1 (14:20):
There's only about what seven more appointments the guy wanted
out of you.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
I don't think he's getting what he looked for in seven, but.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
It's gonna be seventy by the time this is all
said and downe. Good thing. You're getting that settlement money.
You're gonna need it. Thanks well, I mean, based on
the number of times you're gonna have to go see
this fella. I don't know what he's charged. Actually, I
do know what he's charging you, but we don't need
to talk about that. Goldberg is feeling every part of it,
he says as he trains for his final match.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
I've got a massage lady he can go to.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Yeah, fix him, he says. On his car cast podcast,
he revealed a list of ailments, including a left knee
injury that made him extremely limited for some of the training.
He said he's winding down his training. Hopefully the world
will soon know when my retirement match is. It's uncharted
water because not many people my age have done this,
(15:13):
and I'm not just showing up to show up. I
need to show up and be me, and I've tapped
into me a little bit more as of late my
training with all the injuries my age, makes it extremely
difficult to get prepared without going overboard. Well, that's true.
Hurt myself a couple of times in the past three months.
He's working through his shoulder injury rendered him unable to
lift his arm for six months. That sucks. The afore
(15:34):
mentioned big word left knee injury hurts when he runs, well,
stop running first suggestion. He's working on cardio through using
a sprint bike, kickboxing and other things, and he said
he had to pulled back through the mileage on his body.
So we'll find out soon when and where. Wouldn't be
surprised if it's a match with Gunther. Something happens with
(15:57):
Gunther and Jay Usso on Raw and then you know,
they do the big announcement. But I guess we'll find
out soon enough. Back in them with more exciting wrestling
coverage here on Wrestling Observer Live.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
You are listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alvarez
and Mike Sempervivi on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Back in the show, Brian Alvarez here, Wrestling Observer Live,
Dothy Thomas here NXT on Tuesday, six hundred and eighty
four thousand viewers and a point one five so normal number,
you know, and uh, it's eighty on the board. Here's
(17:00):
going on and on. Brian doesn't why he has brought
blah blah blah. Listen, when you look at these Netflix numbers, Okay,
obviously there's a decline from the first show. There always is, Okay,
but the Netflix numbers right now, they don't make any sense,
all right. The claim is there's like nine hundred and
(17:21):
seventy thousand people watching Raw over the course of the
entire day. That doesn't make any sense. This guy here,
he says, even if the math is flubbed a bit
based on guest work, guesswork, the trend is straight down.
The conversation that should be having is a continued on
guess is about same day viewing. The dude, the fact
(17:41):
that whatever numbers will kind of it's like straight down.
Like that doesn't make sense. Do you understand? I mean,
he doesn't understand because I'm explaining it to him, like
the trend. You're telling me that the trend on Raw
is straight down. They're just bleeding viewers. They've got the
lowest number of viewers they've ever had. Less than a
million people are watch Can over the course the entire day. Okay, However,
(18:03):
NXT is normal, SmackDown is normal, Collision is normal, Dynamite
is normal. Every other show is normal. But somehow Raw
is the one show that is collapsing straight down, Like
am I the only one that doesn't make sense? That's
(18:23):
the point. Obviously, there's gonna be a little bit of
a decline happens with every show from the debut, But
there's something about these numbers it doesn't make sense. That's it.
Jimminy Christmas jumpin, Jehosaphat. Yeah, it's not about what do
(18:43):
you think about his beard. That's something we could all
sink our teeth into.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
I'm not gonna go that far. That seems like it
could be assault on some levels.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Oh man. By the way, Okay, listen, I gotta say
this all right, because I actually don't want to say.
I don't want to say what happened and to who. Okay,
people are gonna get mad, but I mean there's a
reason for this. We all know that Live Morgan had
a stalker and the stalker was allegedly arrested. Okay, okay, yeah,
(19:16):
I don't want to I don't want to say who,
and I don't want to say what they did because
I don't want people like looking for it and then
and then finding this. But there was another one today.
Somebody did something that they shouldn't have done. And uh,
I don't want to give the details, but I will say, uh,
as of a little while ago, like it was still
(19:38):
up and it might have it might have disappeared by now,
but I was I was told that that is is
being investigated. They're looking up the IP. They're trying to
find this person. So there was another person that did
a very stupid thing involving the w w E women.
And that's two days in a row now, and and.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
There's a lot of crazy stuff going on right now. Yeah,
Elon Musk just accused Donald Trump of being in the
Epstein Files Christmas.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
What next? But I gotta say, listen, I don't want
to make light of this. Okay, I don't want to
make light of this. I'm not trying to be funny, okay,
but I'm kind of laughing a little bit because there
was a sketch that ended up on Twitter of the
alleged stalker of liv Morgan. I'm actually gonna find out
(20:33):
exactly what the tweet said right here. Cops released a
sketch of an alleged stoker who was hanging around WWE premises.
The identity identity of the stalker still remains to be unknown.
This sketch, I'm not trying to be funny everybody. It
looks exactly like Vinnie. And in fact, I didn't even
(20:57):
comment on it. I just sent the tweet to Vinnie
and he was like, yeah, so it's not Vinnie. I
can be an alibi for Vinnie. He has certainly been around,
He's been over to the house a lot. But oh
my god, if you see this sketch, like the second
you look at it, you're like, that's Vinnie, but it's
(21:19):
not Vinnie. So anyway, what next tonight is Impact? This
whole thing We talked about it yesterday, like this whole
thing with you know, NXT and TNA and Triple A
and AW and New Japan and CML. I mean, this
is the most bizarre business. Tonight's Impact has Moose versus
(21:43):
Eric Young for the X Division title, Rosemary versus Aijah
Brookside and a monsters Ball match, Heather and m By
Elegance versus Harley Hudson and Myra Grace, The Nemoths and
Frankie Kazarian versus Santana, Matt Hardy and Leon Slater, and
the return of Joe Hendry. This is the home show
for tomorrow's pay per view, which has Trick Williams versus
(22:05):
The Drifter for the TNA title. In the main event,
Masha Slamovich versus Ley ying Lee, the Nemoths versus The Rascals,
Steve Macklin and Mance Warner for the International Title Santino
versus Robert Stone for the Sole Director of Authority and
(22:25):
Joe Henry faces Frankie Kazarian Wild and then we got
the World's Collide on on Saturday. This is a joint
WWE Triple A show. The Kingo defends the Mega title
that he won from What's His Face Alberto al Patron
(22:45):
against Chad Gable, Ethan Page versus Javon Ray Phoenix and
Laredo Kid, Stephanie and Lola Weis versus Chic Tormenta and
Dalies Santo's Escobar, angel A Berto versus Eho Day, Doctor
Wagner Junior, Psycho Clown and Pegano Yes, Dragon, Lee Cruz
(23:08):
del Toro and Lindsey Dorado versus Aerostar Octagon Junior and
mister Iguana Holy Smokes.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
I saw an interview with mister Iguana on the UH
on the Old Ex earlier where he was saying that is.
They asked him what his hobby is his favorite hobby?
You know what he said, Brian jiu jitsu.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Really, I thought he was gonna say hanging out in
the sun.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
No. They also asked him what his greatest fear was.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
He said, grasshoppers, really, mister Iguana does jiu jitsu. Huh,
that's pretty cool. Money in the Bank's got Seth Penta,
El Grande Americano, Solo, Soco Andrade and La Night Money
in the Bank, Ria Ripley, Stephanie Roxanne, Naomi, Julian, Alexa Bliss,
(23:56):
money in the bank, Johnsen and Logan, Paul Versus, Cody
and Jay Usso and Lyra and Becky for the Inner
Continental title. I'm trying to figure this out here.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
The woman's match, No, like Naomi's winning it well, Jade
Cargill's beating Tiffany for the belt. Naomi beats Jade Cargill.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Okay, that's that's definitely booking. I'm trying to figure out
how this could work.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Oh, Pegano gets lit on fire, but he wins the
match with a splash to a table.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
I'm trying to figure out the booking of the men's
money in the bank. If money in the Bank had
been in December, then I got the whole thing figured out.
But it's not. It's in June.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
Seth Rollins is winning and he's beating Jay Usso at
SummerSlam for the belt.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
See Al Grande Americano's in the match, but Chad Gable
is wrestling earlier in the day, so I think that
Chad Gable should suffer an injury. El Grande Americano would
win money in the bank, but unmasked as Kurt Angle,
who would then cash it on Johnson and beat him
in his final match. What do you think about that one?
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Good callback?
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Yeah, it's not bad, is it.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
I don't think it's happening.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Not bad? Well, it's not happening.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
You know.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
The last match that kurd Angle needs to come out
of retirement for is a ladder match, just so we know.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
But yeah, I was thinking that earlier this morning too.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Actually, well did she come out of retirement for the
ladder match?
Speaker 4 (25:33):
Yeah? That The last thing kerd Angle should do is
come out for that ladder match.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Sting has set for a convention appearance. I tried to
talk about earlier, but I was interrupted. He'll be the
Sheraton Arlington Hotel. July eleventh and twelfth, part of star
Cast and also part of this All In weekend. You
want to go it all in? What you doing that
weekend the twelfth or something? It's July eleventh and or
July twelfth.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Are you around Yeah, for some reason, I think I
got to be here.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
M I'm strongly considering it with each passing day. Come on,
going to Texas in the summer.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
It's gonna be hot. God, it's gonna be brutal. It's
outside or what the baseball stadium? Where's this show at?
Speaker 1 (26:19):
It will be at It's covered. It's globeal Life Field,
Globe Life Field, it's covered. I heard a voice in
my head just you know, so, Yeah, I'm thinking about it.
Who here on the chats going all in anybody? Brian
Rose says it'll be at night indoors. That's not gonna
(26:40):
be too bad. I mean, it will go to like
one am I think, but I mean we can deal
with that later, you know what.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
You know what I thought was kind of ironic. What's
that the UFC? They're not doing that show in Guadalajara
in early September now for UFC Noche, but they moved
it to like the Alamo? Is this a symbolic move?
Taking that card to San Antonio?
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Might be? I don't know. Everyone's just sending me all
these messages. Apparently I I might have said too much
and people have found the stuff online. Whatever.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
Hopefully, they're gonna find They're gonna find it easily if
you if you're searching.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Hopefully they pull it down quick. And and uh, I
think I was told even the FBI was involved. I
didn't find it here. Well, Guido, I mean they're they're
they're not messing around. Yeah, the FBI is looking at
the IP address of the fellow that did it, so
they ain't messing around. Back in a moment with Fighter
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Speaker 2 (31:02):
You were listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alvarez
and Mike semperviv on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Back in the show, Bryan Alvarez here, oh god, wrestling,
all right, let's talk about fighter Fest. Four hours of action.
I mean, honestly like it was a good four hours,
but man, by the end of that show, I was exhausted.
Then I had to do math. We had a will
Ospray interview and he talked about this whole thing with
(31:36):
Swerve and Hangman, and you know.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
What's going on with this will Osprey's trying really hard.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
He's between a rock and a hard place. Is the
problem here, and these guys don't want to work together,
but he thinks for the best interests of the company,
they should work together and win that title back from
Moxley and then I'll fight each other. But the other
two guys aren't into it. So out comes of all people,
the crew, and this sets up a match for later
on in the show, John Moxley, Mark Brisco excellent match,
(32:07):
a lot of blood, a lot of violence. Mark Brisco
is awesome. He was fighting for the for his child
after he got beaten last week. His kid thought he
gave up. Mark was going to prove he'd never give up,
and then the exact same finish happened. Is there like
a story we're going to here because that's just not right?
Speaker 4 (32:26):
Well, we do have six weeks until that aw pay
per view, so he's still plenty of more Timexley.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
But man, they did a number on poor Mark Brisco
here his kid. He ain't never gonna live this one down.
We had Tony Storm and Minashikwa versus Julia Hard and
sky Blue. This match was so much fun. Tony Storm
and minashir Kawa are the best team and like, all
I could think when this is over is they need
to be the women's tag team champions. But they don't
(32:58):
have women's tag team time idols and it's too bad.
They were great. We had a Max meeting with Ospray
and they teased a Bobby Lashley will Ospray match, and
he bets on whether that match is gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
Anybody did you notice the crowd firmly behind Lashly?
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Well because he used to live here. Yeah, they were
in Denver, and so immediately he came out and MVP
noted that Lashley used to live here but he moved
to Texas and he said, what do you think of
Denver and Lashly did the dramatic thumbs down, so they
were total heels. So then Max came out and he
wants a match at Grand Slam Mexico with Mystico. But
(33:43):
then Speedball Commander and Kevin Knight came out and they
said they wanted a match against the Hurt Syndicated and
MVP goes, nope, you need to earn it if you
want a shot impress us tonight. So it was Commander's
Speedball and Kevin Knight versus Rush Mortos and Drillistico and
they had an excellent match, excellent match, and in fact,
Kevin hit mortoas with the UFO splash got the win.
(34:07):
So MVP said, next week you guys can have a
trios match MJF Lashley and Shelton and he said, we'll
give you a preview right now, but the Babyfaces ran
them off and that was that. We add Christian and
the Patriarchy doing a promo only time on Brian and
Vinage tonight for this one. Christian signed him to a
(34:30):
four way for the Ring of Honor title later, but
what a crew he assembled. Max Caster's in the ring,
He's doing his gimmick. What are you doing, Max Caster?
(34:51):
You think it's an ice cream cone or something. Max
Caster does his deal five minute challenge. Hobbes accepts, kills
him in a minute, and uh yeah, you know, we
had four hours, so we had to do something. But
uh God, between Max.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
And uh.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
He a former partner, what's his name? Anthony Bowens? Yeah? My,
how the Mighty have fallen? And every week it gets
defended harder and harder, and every week they plummet further
and further. It's crazy.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
How come Bowens is still doing the scissor.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Because he wasn't doing it for a while and he
was even less over, so he's trying to bring back
something that the people were into. We had Kenny Brody
king Claudio and Muscaderoda fourway for the international title. Very
good main event. They made Dorata look like a million bucks,
which wasn't hard because he always looks like a million bucks.
Omega caught him one winged Angel got the pin and
(35:50):
then afterwards out comes Okada and they have a stare down,
They have a shoving match, they have a brawl. Oh god,
I got punched right in the frickin' mouth. I mean,
he just got jabber right in the face. He's bleeding,
his lips all busted open. They went for each other's finishers,
neither made it, and then they said there will be
(36:10):
a big announcement by Tony Khan later in the show,
a huge announcement by Tony Khan. I was like, man,
we haven't had one of those in a while. And
the huge announcement by Tony Khan was Tony Shavani said
they're having a.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
Match it all in, winner take all.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Winner take all. Yeah, we've known this for a while,
but yes.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
My prediction on the Prediction show is that this would
headline the show.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
I don't think it's gonna I don't think Hey, Ricochet
video package saying he's looking for a crew, which coincidentally
led to one member of the crew, Leo Rush, facing
Will Osprey and like it was fun for what it was,
but it's like it's every Osprey match. I'm gonna give
this guy like tons of stuff and make him look
(36:56):
like the star and then I'll win. And that's exactly
what happened here, even though Leo never wins and it's
a JOBB or team and then he gets attacked afterwards
by Action Andretti and Hangman has to make the save.
So now we'll have Ospray and Andretti coming up next.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
They keep foreshadowing that Ricochet will be joining with the crew.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Yeah, the crew.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
I think it's gonna be a swerve. I think it's
too obvious. I think it might just be the maybe
the top Flight crew.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Oh my god, Well he is a geek, you know,
so they do have many many geek teams that he
could team with to make it complete.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
Well, who's geek here? Now? The crew or top Flight?
Speaker 1 (37:37):
They're both geeks. I mean literally, they're both booked as
complete geeks. I would say that based on their ring outfits.
Leo Russian Action Andretti are bigger geeks. I mean, oh way,
I don't.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
Think the Nintendo switched to just hit today. And those
turtle shells that they're wearing are in high demand.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Baby there there.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
What were those little mushroom guys on the looked like
they stepped out of Mario card No, the original Super
Mario Brothers.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
They had those little what were those goombas? I forget
what they were called? Yeah, Coopa, what were they called?
They were called Coopa's Goombas are the little brown round
dudes that look like mushrooms. Yeah, but the Coopas were
the ones that had the spikes. Yes, okay, see I'm
not an.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
Idiot Bowser aka King Coopa. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Then we had also then we had a hangman cutting
a promo and he vowed that All in Texas would
be his night, and he promised he would never, under
any circumstances ever accept help from Swerve Strickland. This is
a lying babyface here. We got then Moxy hit the ring,
but Claudio or Will showed up with chairs and they
(38:45):
chased off the heels. We had a Don Kallis family promo.
He was out of his mind. They needed an extra
person for the six man later and ended up being
Etchi Sero and my god, Don Callos introducing this guy.
I mean, holy smokes, what a job he did?
Speaker 4 (39:04):
Is Hetcha Sero in now?
Speaker 1 (39:06):
No, he was just needed for the evening. I think
maybe he's in FTR versus Atlantis and Templorio. This was
a good match, but like FTR, like every match they
have is like incredible, and so this wasn't. So I
was kind of disappointed, but it was still really good
and of.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
Course finish kind this something didn't look right.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Well, what didn't look right was they did the ultimate
Warrior Rick Rude Bobby Heenen spot where the baby face
goes to suplex the heel in but the other heel
grabs the foot and then holds the foot down. But
for whatever reason, when Cash got his foot grabbed, he
like jumped to the middle of the ring and so
Dax can't even hold his foot down because he's too
far away. It was weird. It was this was pretty good,
(39:49):
but I expected better.
Speaker 4 (39:51):
Plus like Stokely should have been the one.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Yeah, you know what I mean, Stokely that is in
the match, and then you know, the announcer say FTR
a five match win streak, and so a normal person,
which I like to think I am, immediately goes, well,
when are they getting a tag team title match? And
there's no mention of the tag team titles? Stokely cuts
(40:15):
a promo, no mention of the Hurt Syndicate, no mention
of the tag team titles. It's like they've got the
bells on Hurt Syndicate, but they don't want to beat
them or even really have them sell for anybody, So
they have all of these tag teams that they won't
put with the Hurt Syndicate. It's like the Hurt Syndicate's
(40:35):
just us Island all their own and they just deal
with random geeks. But like all of the winning tag
teams have no It's weird. We had Bendido and Los
Outrunners versus Takeshta, Fletcher and Etchi Sero. Good match. People
were so one of these loss Outrunners and they made
the big comeback, but then Fletcher thwarted the s O
(41:00):
b elbow hit the brainbuster got the pin. Good match.
We had Penelope and Megan Bain being up ann a
j which led to the return of ty Mellow, so
she's back. We had Nick Wayne, Sammy Gavara, ar Fox
and Lee Johnson in a four way for the Ring
of Honor title and Nick one obviously, although the fans
(41:23):
were super an aar Fox, whose gimmick is he just
gets a title match every other week and he's never
ever won a singles match on AW television, not even
like a squash, He's never won a singles match on
AW television. But he just repeatedly gets title shots and
then afterwards Christian put the belt on Nick's shoulder. I'll
(41:44):
have a lot to say about this tonight, when I
got more time, we had Tekla and Lady Frost, which
I've been begging for matches like this in aw and
they finally did it, and it got over huge because
it's like common sense, but they never do it. It's
it's Tecla's debut. And she murdered Lady Frost. She murdered
(42:07):
her in like a minute and a half. I think
Lady Frost might have got a spot. I don't even
think she got that. She just got murdered. And then
she got murdered afterwards. And Queen Aminada had to come
down and throw a shoe at Techla to run her off,
because that's how you kill a spider, you know, you
hit it with a shoe. No one thought about that
but me, wake up everybody. And then Amanadad challenged Tecla
(42:32):
for next week. Luck with that one, we had the
huge Well, I don't either. I gently picked them up
with my hands and I deposit them outside.
Speaker 4 (42:44):
I eat them.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
Full of protein. Rpgvice and Josh Alexander and Lance Archer
Versus Paragon and Danny Garcia. Man, what is it with
this poor paragon. They are always put in like the
most let's put you in a position where you will
for sure get no heat, no matter how good the
matches they had that that death spotted the pay per
view and then they put him on here four hours
(43:09):
into the show. And by the way, everybody for the
record four hour edition of a w Tony still had
an overrun.
Speaker 4 (43:19):
Yep, never change.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
I gotta admit. The guy is like he is gonna
do what he is gonna do. Like you know what
he would have been. He would have been a great
fiddler on the Titanic. I mean, no matter what happens,
he's he's gonna play his music. That thing can hit
a it can hit an iceberg, it can start going down.
He's gonna play his music all the way down. So anyway,
(43:45):
the babyface is one when Cole pinned Rocky with the
uh the boom and he was wrestling was good, but man,
I was I was just I was so tired and
I gotta do it again next week. He is a
sick go Tony Khan is a sicko, you know what
I'm saying. That's why the sickos are are are so defensive.
(44:07):
Of everything that he does, because they're also sickos. They're
all sickos. Like you can see it. You can, you
can you can see how people are. And if you're
confused about anything in aw you don't understand Tony. And
if you think that everything is incredible, then you are
exactly like Tony. I think the issue is that the
(44:28):
vast majority of people on this planet are not like Tony.
Speaker 4 (44:33):
I talked to Tony a little bit backstage at that
Dean show, and you know what he wanted to talk about.
You already want to talk about Rick Flair in the eighties.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
That sounds about right back in a moment everybody was
a relive.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
You are listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alvarez
and Mike semperviv on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
Oh my god, what are you saying about?
Speaker 4 (45:21):
KNIGHTE NIGHTE to see? Unito made an announcement earlier today. Yeah,
he and Bushie have lost the rights to both of
their themes and the ability to use the Los Ingo
Bernaboles de Japong faction name. But tomorrow he will announce
he and Boushi's new team name. Really so looks like
(45:43):
there's some some motion across the ocean when it concerns
to see unito. Hmm.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
I was trying to think of something witty, but I
I can't. Well, you know tonight it's gonna be the
brain of any show, and we got four hours of
dynam to really sink our teeth into, as well as NX.
Speaker 4 (46:04):
Gets a shoot steak.
Speaker 1 (46:06):
Yeah, like seventy two pound steak. Brother, holy smokes, but
where's my calculator? Seventy six pounds six divided by six,
it's seventy six or seventy two.
Speaker 4 (46:19):
It's six pounds. It's six pounds steak.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
It's not four five four point. This is important. The
question is how many shares are in each steak?
Speaker 4 (46:32):
Yeah, get me on the ratings talk. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:35):
Anyway, we got a lot to talk about, including a
NXT which it's funny like NXT ended, and I was like,
that's a pretty good show. And then I reviewed it
segment by segment yesterday and I just I hated it.
So we'll see what I feel like tonight and we'll
review both of those shows. Wrestlingobserver dot com or it
can get us on Spotify, Apple podcasts or YouTube. Lots
(46:56):
going on everybody, so check it out. Thank you, Tom,
callers and listeners, everybody in the studio, Big Dom. Talk
to you next time Wrestling Observer Live. You have been
(47:42):
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