January 8, 2025 • 40 mins
It's a fresh New Year and we're bringing you a brand new episode of Wrestling with Friends! Jeff and I catch up on our holidays - from my awesome trip to Hawaii with my wife, diving with dolphins and facing some major canoeing challenges, to Jeff's wild comedy shows. We dive into some wrestling talk, including the excitement around Monday Night Raw's debut on streaming and some quick updates on AEW's MAX stream success.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Bigger isn't necessarily better. I get that you're a business.
I get that Vince's ego and Tony Kahan's ego they
want to be able to brag.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Oh we had nine million people in the room.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
We don't care. I don't care. I want to watch
good wrestling. I want to watch great stories. I don't
care what the name of the arena is and how
many seats were sold.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Now your maid even introducing the hosts wrestling win for
Ready Chef Died and for Ready Friends Junior.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
What's up? Everybody? Welcome to a brand new episode of
Wrestling with Friends. Happy New Year to all of you.
I hope you enjoyed the episodes. All we were one.
I know I got a couple comments on my little
miniature painting that I do on Instagram. Don't invade those
with non miniature painting comments. By the way, couple people
(01:00):
were pissed that we had like a repeat episode in there.
But don't worry. We're back. We're back, We're back. You
don't have to get mad. Jeff, how are you and
how is your holiday?
Speaker 1 (01:11):
I am feeling great. All my holidays were awesome.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
How many holidays did you get to have well.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
No, here's the thing. I think that some people are
are weird about people. Someone like someone in nineteen ninety
five used to say happy holidays, and that was normal.
Now if you say happy holidays, people go, it's Christmas,
Merry Christmas.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
I don't do this woke stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Here's the thing when people, when people say happy holidays,
they mean because you're getting like a holiday break. There's
Christmas Eve, Christmas, Hanukkah, probably New Year's Eve, you have
New Year's Day. Those are all holidays. It's a collection
of holidays. So that's why people say happy holidays, not
because I agree with Jeff. Yeah, my holidays.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
We can talk. Chris, Christmas was bad, dude. We went
to Hawaii, and I swear we go pretty much every year,
and we have some friends that live out there that
are so close to their family, and we got to
spend it with them, and we got to spend New
Year's with them and see cool fireworks, go diving, and
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some dolphins rolled up on us while we were diving,
and we're just like swim. My wife posted video of
it on her Instagram. You guys can check it out.
I don't post that soft shit on my Instagram. Just
hard ass me and he's badass cars. But strengthen on her.
And these dolphins came up and hung out with us,
and this octopus was hanging out with us. And what else? Man,
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We saw huge turtles, whales. It was wild.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Man.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
I went on like a three mile canoe trip with
my man Keanu. Almost tapped out bro because the wind
was in our face on the way out. It was like,
if he wasn't doing the Hawaii come on, brother, you
got it. Man, if he wasn't motivating me, it would
have been a full tap out. But we survived that,
and the way back was off and we serve some
waves on the way in, and it's just a real
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spiritual place. Man. I got a real connection to that place.
I've been going there twenty five years now in a
row with me and the wife, and even a couple
of years before. My wife was when I first started
going out there, and I lived there with my mom
when I was a baby. She worked in a bunch
of restaurants, was kind of like a gypsy and couldn't
really commit to any place, so she would just sign
like a six month contract or a year contract. Get
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your restaurant back off the ground or help set a
menu at a hotel restaurant and then just straight bounce
with her baby. That was me. We were in Hawaii,
and so she always said, I think you loved it
because that was like the first time you ever saw
the beach was when we were in Hawaii. And I
have like a real strong connection to that place. I
love the way they treat their elderly. I love the
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way they raised their children. I love the way they
take care of their families and help one another. It's
very old school. It's like New Mexico where I grew
up in New Mexico outside of Albuquerque, in like Santa
Fe and Placidas, and certainly like nearby the reservations and
stuff like that, Like people looked out for one another,
and their grandparents would live with them when they got
too old and it wasn't like put them in a
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home and all this, you know shit. So and I
just I like, I liked that old school way more
so I just connect there. And one day, when I
want to get big fat and harry, I'll retire out
there and life will be sweet. I would love to
retire there. Where were you? Where were you for the holiday?
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Well, for the holidays, I did a bunch of local
shows around town, went to the Comedy Magic Club, the
Laugh Actor, did a bunch of local shows, and then
I performed in Fort Wayne, Indiana for the weekend before Christmas,
went to mar A Lago to perform in Florida for
one night. Then that was for the thirtieth and then
on the thirty first, I went to Portland, Oregon and
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performed two New.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Year's Eve shows.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Well I was supposed to do too, and I only
did one New Year's Eve show because someone got shot
with a gun in Portland, Orgon.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
It's Mary freaking Christmas. Yeah, that was nice, not ideal.
You didn't shoot him, did you know?
Speaker 1 (05:03):
They're just some drunk people that drank too much and
got into a squabble with a different couple. Jesus Christ
and some bad things happening, and then one of the
couples just said let's end this and shot him in
the stomach.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
It was really red dead, redemption. Oh my god, bro,
that's what. I don't mean to laugh. That's horrible. I
just laugh when I get uncomfortable. Just no, we didn't
know funened that.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
What happened? Do you drink too much.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
You gotta be responsible with your drinking and responsible with
your guns.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Or you're throwing knives if you have or throwing stars
like back in the eighties, you gotta be responsible with that.
My buddy got one stuck right in his arm because
Chris sanderbal chucked it at him and it right in
the freaking arm. Real throwing star got his ass. Sorry
Chris for naming you. Chris was a good guy. He
was in a jerk. That story makes him sound awful.
He was a really nice guy. By the way, We
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were just playing ninjas, all right. Well, we both had
great holidays, and wrestling has changed forever. Who while we
were gone, Jeff, it's now streaming on everywhere. You can
stream from Max all the way over to Netflix. Well
those are really the only two places, so maybe not everywhere,
but this show records on Mondays and airs on Wednesdays,
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so Monday night Ral will have already debuted by the
time y'all hear this whenever you like to listen. And
Dynamite has already aired on Max and everybody loved the
Max stream. Everything looked super clean. People were loving it,
and then it cut to commercial and people were fucking
(06:37):
pissed because there's no picture in picture on MAX, so
this was I think they'll be able to address this
and address it fairly quickly because there's existing models out
there already that they can just license the rights to
and then put it in THEIRS if they don't have
it already. But maybe they don't because they didn't anticipate that.
But they can do that, and they're a multi billion
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dollar conglomerate, so they should do that. That's what services
the fans. But I know that was the one thing
people had beef with, but everybody liked the matches. Everybody
likes the Continental Classic, even though there's no story. It's
a tournament. There doesn't have to be one, and everyone
loves Okata and will Osprey. Did you get to see
the MAX stream or did you still watch it on
TNT or did you watch it on the TNT app?
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What did you think? So watched on TNT.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Yeah, I didn't do the MAX thing, but I'm going
to that's a lot easier for me. I just didn't
even I'm so out of the loop on that kind
of thing that I didn't watch it.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
But you know, you say that.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
It's not all officially over on streaming yet, but this
is what they do. They test the thing and then
it's gonna be before you know it, every wrestling thing
will be on streaming. This is the proof of concept.
You might go, oh, ras on Netflix. Yeah, wait, everything's
gonna be on there.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
You'll see soon there won't be channels. Everything will be streaming.
The whole cyberpunk philosophy is like they weren't just science
fiction writers. They were futurists, projecting the future based on
the world world they were living in at that time
in the sixties and seventies, Like all this shit is
coming true from from Philip K. Dick to to as
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a mo Off, like all the everything they said was
gonna happen is happening. And if you didn't read sci fi,
you're like whatever, nerd, But if you read it, you'll
be like, holy shit, that's kind of tripped out. So
anyway we will talk. Where are we going to talk?
Well we should talk. The one question that you had,
which I thought was really smart before the show started
was if I missed the live show, is it like football?
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And am I not going to be able to see
it again? And our producer Alex who's the friggin' man
and knows everything about professional wrestling inside and out. He's
well educated, well versed, and he's just a fan and
he's a badass marine too. He had the answer to
the question, as he always does, and the answer is yes,
you can replay right away. You can even rewind while
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you're watching live. That's how much love they're going to
give you. By the way, I was going to go
to the show tonight, but WWE made it so difficult
with their ticket situation. Not to be dicks, just the
process of it was so incredibly difficult that our tickets
ended up getting all spread out. We were a large group,
not a large group. We were a group of eight
for adults for kids, and we're not going to go
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now because everybody was sitting in like different spots and
nobody was going to be that. It was more like
a technical thing, like the people we were dealing not
the people we were dealing with. The site we were
dealing with wasn't really allowing it. Netflix tried to come
in at the last minute and help us out, but
they couldn't offer us enough tickets together as a group
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that late in the game, so it was like lower
bowl ring side up here over there, and this was
a group of kids that want to see the magic together.
And my wife was gonna come for the first time.
She was going to come to a WWE show. So
I was disappointed on that, not mad, just disappointed. I
wish it would have worked out better. You can take
that as criticism or say whatever, We're not changing our ways,
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but UFC makes it way easier just and you guys
are owned by the same people like UFC. I've gone
twelve deep and they could not be more helpful. And
it was like perfect. Everything was there. And I'm not
talking about I want free tickets. I'm just talking about
seats together. That's all I'm talking about. I'll pay for tickets.
I don't care. But UFC does it at such a
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high level. And WWE, since they like the merger basically
like or since that WrestleMania that you and I went
to together, has made it incredibly difficult and just weird
and unnecessarily hard to do the VIP ticket experience. Jeff
is coughing and dying on the podcast because he wanted
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to adopt a dog, but we think he was allergic
to the dog. He's a really nice guy, and I
like when people adopt pooches. You don't have to if
you want to buy it. Don't worry. I won't ever
get mad at you. I don't judge. I just love animals.
But Jeff was trying to adopt one, and I think
he's slowly realizing that this isn't going to be the
guy for you.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Trying to save this little pooch, but he's killing me.
So it's between me and him. You know, we'll get
you a hypoallergenic one.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Man. Those doggies need homes too, So anyway, it's gonna
be on Netflix. You guys will have already watched it.
Hit us up in the common sections on our socials
and let us know what you think because that kind
of helps us shape our opinions on how you guys
are receiving the product and not just telling you guys
what we think about shit. So I can't tell you
how raw was because I don't know, but I can
(11:29):
tell you how the raw before this was. Jeff, you're
either about to sneeze or you want to say something. Yeah,
I was gonna say rest in peace to the WW network.
It's officially gone.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
I really enjoyed the WB Network because I sometimes will,
you know, if I order takeout or if I'm like
just chilling at my house, I'll put on like an
old RAW you know, from like when, you know, back
when I was a teenager and stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
And so it's officially gone.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
You can't, you can't log in, you can't you can try,
it says, go over to the other thing. So anyways,
rest in peace to the WB Network. That's why I
was so concerned with is Netflix gonna let me rewatch things?
Because sometimes I'll just put one on, you know, and
I would like to hope that that'll that the archived
episodes will live on there.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
But we'll see. Yeah, if I can't watch Shelton Benjamin
versus Sean Michaels on Monday Night Raw at least once
every three years, that would feel kinda kind of weird.
There's kind of weird.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Wrestling is better than it's ever been, but it's also
there's other stuff from back then that I liked too
that's better than now. So so I don't know, I
like to live in all of it. But well, we'll
see what happens with Netflix. They're advertising it like crazy,
so Yeah, hopefully that means they've they're putting all their
best efforts into it.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
All right, dude, see him Punk and Seth Rollins finally
had the promo that they should have had when they
first met. And maybe this was intentional, but they finally
cut each other to pieces. From what I've heard a
lot of people think Cmpunk one, I thought it was
fifty to fifty all the way down the line. Both
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guys hit each other with with pseudo real stuff. It's all,
you know, agreed upon and scripted out to a certain degree.
But I thought this was the best they've done since
their story started, which is good because it's the payoff one,
which is why I try to give latitude and go.
Maybe they did it on purpose, but these guys could
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have built this up earlier on with promos that I
just didn't think were quite at this level. These were
both tens like it was so good and it didn't
have to get physical because the words were just like,
let me cut you with this and cut you with that,
and how's your how's your wife? And she took off
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as she equitped like he He came at Seth Rollins
and said stuff that got the crowd going. He got
the cmpunk chank going multiple times in a smart, organic way.
Seth Rollins came out in his white suit and he
hit him with what was more like, you hurt me,
you hurt us, and you never said sorry for it,
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so fuck you. That's where seth rollins motivation is. He
hasn't said those words, but that's where he's coming from,
and that's why he refers to him leaving the audience
and all that he can't say you hurt me because
then he comes off week. But that's the more colorful,
manly way to say it. I'm just telling you guys
what he means. But they both had a great one.
You guys will have already seen the match by now,
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so it sucks like getting to talk about it not
knowing before you. But I'm really excited to see in
this match. I hope I said this before with the
Drew thing. I thought Drew should have won that feud
and it gives Ciampunk a harder road. Declined like, am
I the one? Or am I Jimmy Connors in the
eighties at Wimbledon? And I'm just making it to the quarterfinals,
No fuck that, I'm making it all the way to WrestleMania.
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Let me climb that mountain. I think that would have
been the better story. So I hope once again the
right person wins, and I believe that should be Seth Rollins,
but we won't know yet. Seth, did you like this
segment as much as me? And are you hype for it?
Or do you not give two shits about the well
dressed Seth Rollins? I don't give a shit See Him Punk.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
I love it. I love what they're doing. I'm gonna
be excited to watch it.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
I will.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
I'm a little mad at myself. When when will I
stop believing everything?
Speaker 4 (15:26):
I just can't. I'm still I'm forty one years old.
I'm still going.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
I think Seth really hates seem Punk Like it's like
I just I believe that until recently, obviously, because you know,
back in the day, there was like they interviewed Seth
Rollins when he was over at aw about what was
going on with CM Punk and see him Punk's like
that guy's a cancer. He's blah blah blah. And I
don't believe they were leading up to any big matchup.
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Then they didn't even know if CM punk would ever
come back to w B, so I remember thinking, he
really hates him, he really hates him, and so now
this kind of reveals that it wasn't that I don't
really hate each other. There's a mutual respect there. So
it was a little disappointing to go I'm an idiot.
I fell for it again. There's nothing is real in wrestling,
But I am excited for it, and I think it's
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gonna be great. They're both the superstars. I feel like
seth Rawlins might even be the cmpunk of what cmpunk
used to be in wrestling. I think that that's a
fair comparison. But I'm very, very excited about it, and
I loved what they did. I love bringing the wifes
into the talk. That's very good for both of them too,
because both of them have wrestler wives.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
So I just loved it. I think it's gonna be great.
I'm very excited to watch it finally happened. Jeff, You've
been sitting here going, God, damn it, Win, just do
it already. What the hell? Why is it taking so long? Well,
she did it. She heard you, she got the message,
and she finally cashed in. And Tiffany Stratton is the
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new Women's Champion. She cashed in on Naya Jacks and
to wait for the slow ass ref to get in
the rig, start the damn match. He gets in the ring,
she does her. They call it the prettiest of moon salts,
a lot of moon salts in the WWE, and she
nailed it perfect and Naya Jacks went down one, two, three,
And Tiffany Stratton, who they have strapped a rocket ship too,
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is now the Women's Champion and going to have an
opportunity to be one of the two female faces of
the brand while Becky and Charlotte are still out. A
lot of people are speculating Charlotte's about to come back
and she'll be Tiffany's first sort of real challenge. Becky
could come back at any moment, but I think Becky
would be on Monday Night Raw and not on Friday
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night SmackDown. So are you happy to see it? I
don't know what's going to happen. I think it's very
early with Tiffany Stratton. I think she's very green. I
don't know if that character in its current form is
going to be able to carry that much weight. It
was something that she came up with in NXT that
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I thought got her to the next level, but we
haven't really seen an evolution of that yet. If she's ready,
you're going to see growth really really fast, because she
is going to have a lot to say in promos
and you'll see it developed like you saw it in
Solo Socoa, like it happened fast, like not on a
three month to three month basis, you almost saw it
on a week to week basis. And if she's not ready,
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you'll see that too. But they're giving her a huge
opportunity to be the face of this franchise. She's recently
signed with Paradigm, which is a high level agency out
here in Hollywood, Like, they have big plans for her,
So we shall see. But were you happy to finally
see the damn money in the bank briefcase get cashed
in instead of just being a prop to hit people
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in the face with? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (18:45):
I mean, I wonder if fans are gonna forget how
long that they drew that out, like our fans gonna
forgive how tedious it was that she just finally checked it.
But at least it was good to see money in
the bank, check in or cash in and then them winning.
That was pretty cool. I liked that there was no
weird shenanigans. There was no like close call doesn't get
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it to make that whole lead up a waste.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
But I love I love that that she's the new champ.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
I'm I'm actually really skeptical of her character and of
her I'm wondering if it's gonna work. I heard rumors
I don't know if you heard this they're gonna give
her a pink belt, that they might give her an
actual belt, Yeah, like a pink one, So I guess
that'd be cool to see.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
K I'm not a pink guy. I don't like the
color pink. I never it matches her though, Yeah, it'll
match her. But I'm not going to be like, oh,
look at that pink belt. I'm not going to say
that if it was like blood red and I could
look kind of stained like the one Jack Perry did,
but leather, I'd be like, oh look at that sexy belt.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
But worst worst belt ever was the Fiends. Remember when
they put the Fiend like a Fiend belt.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
You know. I hated the Spinner belt. I hated the
Fiend belt. I hated the way the Diva's belt looked terrible.
They're there. Those are like my three worst belts ever,
my favorite winged Eagle, big gold belt, those are my
two favorites. But yeah, my my three least ones are
are are those three? For sure? For sure? Sure?
Speaker 1 (20:18):
So here's the thing, Tiffany Stratton, I'm open to be
persuaded on her.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
Hell yeah, everyone deserves it.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
But I'm reasonably skeptical, and I'm glad she beat Nia
Jack's so that shows they believe in her and and
and all that, and so I'm I'm open to it.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
They're gonna put her in a hopefully in an environment
that's conducive to success. That was really hard for me
to say, so I like a round of applause. So
hopefully she's able to execute. You know, I feel they
they push people way too fast, and their sink or
swim mentality is not always the right way to do things,
but that's the way they've done it since forever and
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they're not going to change. So there's nothing I can
say to to get what I want. But yeah, so
hopefully she gets uh, she gets the right opportunity and
it kicks ass. Let's move on, sir, to the bloodline,
which has now been injected with adrenaline because of Paul Hayman,
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who cut just an awesome promo, And I know we
should talk about Cody Rhods in the Championship with Kevin Owns,
and we will if we have time, but that's not
the most exciting. Those aren't the most exciting things going
on in wrestling right now, because I think everybody knows
that Cody's gonna have the belt to wrestle Mania, so
he's gonna beat Kevin at the Royal Rumble and it'll
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be you know who's next, who's gonna get money in
the bank, who are they going to cash in on?
Who's his opponent is going to be Roman again, So
I think that's more the direction of that. So there
we covered it, but the bloodline is now Solo Socoa.
Solo interrupted Paul Hayman's awesome promo and it was awesome,
and he came out with energy. He was like, he
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had so much energy and to see that kind of
range from where he was totally stressed out and hadn't
slept and just looked disheveled all the time. When he
was with Solo under duress, he was like indentured servitude
to Solo and just his promos were weak and frail
and fragile, and he's asked, please help me, like he's
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asking for help all this stuff to where he is now,
where he's like and Lockmann and just yelling in that
mic and cutting these amazing I'm the greatest manager of
all time promos. He gets interrupted by Solo, and you
see Solo who he's become from where he started. I
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don't know if anyone's gotten better quicker. I'm not saying
he's better than the best. I'm not saying he's a
top dude on the mic. I'm just saying from where
he started to where he is now, and that short
amount of time, he's developed so much on the freaking microphone.
I'm not a wrestler and I don't book matches, so
I can't critique his wrestling. I know it looks like
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he knocks the shit out of people, and I think
that looks cool. But his mic work is so much better,
and he's getting so good, and he's trying to go
toe to toe with Paul Hayman, and Hayman's selling for
him emotionally and being scared when he's like, yeah, he
if he wins, then he gets the Ula Fallow. But
when I win and I will win, he's like even
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listening to the crowd because they're like, no, I're not
going ahead. He's like, no, I will win. Then I
get the Ula Falla. You put it around my neck
and you become my wise man forever. And Paul Hayman
just shook and is like, oh shit, and Solo hands
in the microphone and Paul Hayman just drops it, just
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gets the fuck out the ring because he's too scared
of Solos A cool and it is such a good
shot in the arm for this storyline. It's why it's
still the best storyline in all of wrestling, regardless of
whether it's ae W, WWE or TNA. It's it's so good.
They have so many high level people barking on the microphone.
They bring in these like guest stars once in a while,
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the Sammy's Ains of the world, even to see him
punk there for one quick second. But it always seems
to work. I don't even feel like they've made a
misstep this this whole time, at least not one I
can think of. And if there is one, everything else
was so good. I forgot about it. Uh, but I
love this Paul Hayman segment. And you love Paul Hayman,
so he could say whatever and you'd be like, you
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fucking rule broke. Well he does.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
He just I like him because everything he says is great.
He's so yeah, he's the best mic work guy ever.
I put him above Stone Cold, I put him above
the Rock. And what I'm hoping is that he teams
up with the Rock.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Paul Haman the Rock. No one would ever be able
to hang with them on the mic ever.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
It' I don't know why they would do that, because
you know both of them are so good at mic work.
It seems would be whatever, but it would be like
taking two of your best stars and putting him as
a tag team is like the tag team of Mike works.
So I would love to see it. I love Paul Hayman.
I think everything he does is gold. So I'm very
very very very very excited for what they're doing. Also,
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I've always liked Solo Sakoya.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
I went are Solo Sokoa. I love when you call
him Sequoya though, because he's about as big as one.
He's huge. Well, I like the way they rolled him out.
You know, I don't.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
I don't feel like with the Internet nowadays and with
shows like ours and shows like other people's, you you know,
we've kind of already know when a wrestler's coming. Oh money,
Sasha Banks is coming. You know, she's gonna go over
the where she's gonna sign. We have all this like
behind the scenes kind of stuff. We have all these
things like Jade car Gill's gonna be there, but she's
(25:43):
at the wrestling center, you know, and then what they're
gonna roll her.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
And then Ronda Rowse.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
He's always talking about how well I needed more train,
I wasn't ready yet, blah blah blah. Whereas with Solo Solo,
we just saw this dude in the ring, and who's
probably what we didn't see was those reps. He was
taking all the matches, all the bumps, he was taking
all the whites.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
He's getting better.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
And then on Monday night we would just see him
in the ring and he'd occasionally give someone the Samoan
spike like it was really smart way to roll him out,
in my opinion, And so now we're getting to see
how talented this guy is. He's probably wrestled his whole life,
but now he was like really training and grinding like
in these last few years.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
I just love him. Who do you think looks more
intimidating with our arms crossed? Me or Solo Sokoia? All right,
give us the best one here? Let me see it?
Here we go? Uh you? Yeah? Definitely come on, Solo
stepperd game up. You're wax so you wouldn't beat us.
This is the real tag team. I think you might
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get our head. Moving on to a Dubbs. As we
said at the top of the show, Dynamite and Collision
are now on Max. If you don't have that app,
get it. Prepare to cut all your cords because soon
there will be no TV and everything will just be
corporate streaming. But then one day a small terrestrial television
(27:05):
station will re debut fifteen years from at the time
they're all gone, and it'll be this rebel Outlaws station
that'll have shows like what was that Canadian guy Tom
something had that talk show back in the day in
the late eighties or nineties. It'll be shows like that.
It'll be shows like what is that Morton Downey Junior show?
(27:25):
Loudmouth guys like that, and all these shows. I know
it will start to make a comeback and then they'll
have their first scripted show and people go, well, scripted
TV doesn't suck. This is actually kind of cool. And
I don't have to watch all these shows in one night.
I can wait from week to week. Now, that'll never
happen anyway. Back to streaming a Dub's. They're wrapping up
their tournament. I'm kind of grateful for it. I know
(27:46):
you get awesome matches, and that's the reason that we
watch aw is more for the matches. But they can
do good stories. I've seen them do good stories, and
I want them to do more good stories. So I'm
kind of glad the tournament is over and we can
get back. We can kind of dive back into that
because they got a lot of guys back. Edges back
(28:08):
or sorry, Adam Copeland is back, didn't mean Edgebroski broken
ankle and all still came back and he's ready to
kick ass and he's ready to fight John friggin Moxley.
I'll be honest with you, I don't want to see
mjf versus Moxley again. I saw that he used the
brass nuts from from William regal Woo Boom got the championship.
(28:29):
I don't want to see him as a babyface in
Moxley as the heel. I want to see almost called
him Edge again. I want to see Cope, that's what
they're gonna call him now. I want to see Cope
get the title. And I want to see MJF versus
Adam friggin Copeland because that match has never happened. It
would be a first time ever and it would be
for the AEW Championship, and those two dudes on the
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mic would be money. It would be the old lion
that MGF could just talk shit to about how old
and busted he is and how he's the new hotness
and you have to just deal with all that. And
Edge would be like, look, kid, you don't know what
I got for you, but it's coming in and it
would be great and I would love it. So that's
what I hope happens. Although as reality kind of settles
(29:12):
in on my promo right there, John Moxley is probably
not going to lose this for a long time, so
I don't know if if even Copeland can get him.
But that's what I'd like this.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
With mjf's wrestling knowledge and with mjf's mic work. Could
you imagine the promo he would drop on Cope like
on Adam Copeland Edge, Oh my gosh, I would.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
It would be the best, No, dude, those two going
in on each other because Edges or Copeland is good
at at being reactionary, like his whole like he's we
always like him more when he's reactionary, even as a heel.
It would someone would talk shit to him, like about
all the relationship stuff and stuff like that, because they
(29:54):
would do real life and promos and he would react hute,
like oh, I could just say, oh, you son of
a bitch, I'll get you up a bit like that
was more him and MJF is more an active guy.
He starts the argument, whether he's the babyface or the heel.
He starts the shit all the time. He likes to
stir up the pot and Copeland has to taste it.
And that's why I think the two of them would
(30:15):
go so well together, man, because their approach to promo
work is so different but so complimentary because it's like, yeah, dude,
throw your best shit at me and I'll take it.
Like Adam Sandler and Happy Gilmore when he's in the
batting cage and he's like, here, I love it, gimme Moore,
Like that's that's who those two guys are. One is
the ocean and the other's a sponge and you can
just soak up everything and then at the end of
(30:37):
the promo, we just squeeze you and see what comes out,
and what comes out as a Sick Championship match. So
I really want to see that, man, and I hope
that's the direction they go, and it could happen, but
it's not gonna. I'd love it. Well, thank you man,
I appreciate that. Oh and this is more business, I
guess than it is, like what's going on? But I
like talking about this stuff too. Aw did Hammerstein, and
(31:01):
it was way better than when they do the big arenas.
It felt full because it was it's an arena they
can pack. The wrestlers had really good energy in there,
like like they liked the crowd. They didn't miss It
didn't feel like anyone missed a big arena. It didn't
feel like anyone was missing seventeen thousand. It felt more like, yo,
(31:23):
thank you for this six thousand or whatever. The number was.
I don't know what it was, five thousand, whatever it was,
I don't care. But it felt intimate. It felt cool.
I went to a Prince concert one night at this
little twelve hundred like seat club and it was like
the coolest concert I ever went to. He only played
three songs, which was kind of a dick move, but
but the opening suck. The opening acts was pretty good,
(31:47):
three sallongs, three songs bouncing then Shallamar played Shalamar. Was cool,
but anyway, it sucks. It did, dude. People were pissed.
They wanted their money back. For sure. I was drunk,
so I didn't care, so anyway, so it felt cool.
The vibe was right. I'd like to see them do
more smaller theaters and ballrooms or whatever you call them,
(32:08):
smaller arenas. It's not a hollow space. It's actually full
of people, full of flesh. It's a sea of flesh
that you must circumnavigate. And I really liked it, and
I hope people continue to dig it. Because they can
sell out their pay per views, but they can't sell
out their TV shows for whatever reason. I think that
reason is because the lack of stories that people want
(32:29):
to see on a week to week basis, but I
could be totally wrong because that may not connect from
a city to city, arena to arena thing. That may
be more a television product, which is what I'm more
accustomed to. But until they're able to fill up these
arenas on their dynamites and whatever their next show is
going to be, since they got rid of Rampage, I'd
like to see them continue this model because it seems
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to be working, and eventually the demand will outgrow the
places you're going to and you won't be able to
sell enough, or you will be able to sell so
many seats that you can't sell any more and you
need to and then you can go up, but you
don't need to start so big. I get why they
did it because you wanted to compete with WWE, but
now it's like it's five years in almost six years
in let's find ourselves, let's find who we are, and
(33:13):
once we do, let's establish that and grow from there.
That's my philosophy, Jeff.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
I also, this will be a weird stand up comedy
take on this, but it's like, this is this is
my comedy club. Brain talking Bigger isn't necessarily better. I
get that you're a business. I get that Vince's ego
and Tony Kahn's ego. They want to be able to brag.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Oh, we had nine million people in the room.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
We don't care. I don't care. I want to watch
good wrestling. I want to watch great stories.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
I don't care what the name of the arena is
and how many.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Seats were sold. Just put good wrestling out there. And
it's same with like a comedy show like Bert Kreischer
Andrew Schultze. These guys are like I sold out Madison
Square Garden. It's like, yeah, I don't really give a shit.
What I want to see is like a good show.
I want to see good comedy. Sometimes a small comedy
club venue. The crowd is like, oh man, I got
to be right there. The energy in the room, and
(34:12):
if storytelling is part of energy, it's part of like
a thing, like anything will work that that should cater
to the story.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
I don't care if it's.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
A giant stadium or a tiny little thing like they
do it like NXT or yeah, any of those small things.
If the if the product's good and the wrestling's good,
that that's all that should matter.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
In my opinion, I couldn't agree with you more man.
Some of the greatest stand up shows I've ever seen
were at Jamie's. I don't know if Jamie still runs it,
but I think his name was Jamie Medina's Laugh Factory. Masada.
That's his last name. Dude, did you know this is
a weird side quest. He was my dad's like homie
back in the seventies, and I think actually like worked
for him a little bit, like not as I can't
(34:53):
imagine them hanging out, No, dude, they totally did. They
were friends, and this was before he owned laugh Factory,
and he was like, you know, just coming up in
whatever business he was going to come up, and they
were friends all the way back then. But some of
the best comedy shows I've ever seen were at that club.
And that club is not a giant theater. It does
not hold thousands and thousands of people. Know, there were
(35:16):
maybe you know, one hundred and twenty asses in seats.
And I've seen some of the best shows that I've
ever seen in my life there and shows that I
remember to this day, Jokes that I remember to this day,
reactions from the crowd that I remember to this day,
and it's all from an intimate location. And what would
you rather?
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Would you rather brag that you were at a wrestling
show that had a few hundred people you were like,
I saw that I was there, Or if you're like
I was at that WrestleMania, you're like everyone was at
that wrestle meeting. They sold ninety million seats. So I
just think it is better and go ahead. If you
want to sell out your giant rome like Arenas, that's
okay too.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
But why do I care?
Speaker 1 (35:56):
I should care about the actual wrestling and the actual story.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
That's what's important. You know, who cares about actual stories.
One of our listeners, so cal King thirty two, and
he gave us a review Jeff, and first of all,
it's five stars. So thanks for that, love man. We
appreciate that, and that for real man, that helps the show.
It helps the show grow, It helps with algorithms. I
(36:19):
don't know what that part means, but that's what they
tell me. And here's what he wrote, I should have
worn the glasses, Jeff. Damn it. If there was a
Paul Hayman biopic, who would Oh, Paul GIAMONTI I already know. Well,
let me finish reading who would play him in the movie.
I think it could be Paul Giamatti. What say you, guys, dude, So,
(36:40):
Cayle King, We're on the same page. As soon as
I read the first part of your message, man, it
was one guy popped in my head. Yeah, Paul Giamatti. Bro,
who would be better than that? Nobody unless you put
like Steve Buscemi in a fat suit, right or you
can't say fat suit anymore, a helly kevy suit heavy.
(37:01):
George Carlin said this, and I defend him. Aircraft carriers
are heavy. People are fat, and so I'm sticking with
the fat suit, and I rebuke my apology.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
Yeah, there's also nothing wrong with fat, even embracing the term.
They go, I'm a fat bodied person.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
So, dude, I don't care if you're skinny or fat,
but I'm gonna call you skinny and I'll be like
a judgment. It's an observation. Thank you, so so, Kyle King,
thank you for that. Yeah, Paul Giomotti would be amazing, Jeff,
you can't outcast that. You can't think of someone better
than Paul Giaomotti, No freaking way.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Philip Seymour Hoffman would have been great.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
Oh dude, you just did it. But he's passed away. No,
I know, but he would have just crushed that.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Paul Giamatti is so talented that I think he could
play anyone.
Speaker 4 (37:44):
In a bio pic. Paul Giammotty's pretty great, dude. Yeah, wow,
man won a pool with Philip Seymour Hoffman. He'd have
been great. Remember him as the bad guy in the
Mission of Possible Movies. I know they're not the best movies,
but he was like when he was like, I'm gonna
hurt you. Oh yeah, achure family, Like I'm sitting there like, dude,
what the hell this is? Like? Performance is so much
(38:05):
better than what this movie deserves, right, That's what those
movies great.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
They custom Sometimes when people think of biopics, they think
about the way the actor looks, which is something you
should definitely do for sure. But there's a movie called
Elvis and Nixon. Elvis is played by Michael Shannon. Michael
Shannon looks nothing like Elvis. He is so talented that
after the first like five ten minutes of the movie,
you're like, that's Elvis. I'm watching Elvis Like there's some
(38:31):
magical guys out there.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
That can that can really pull that kind of stuff off.
Man Shannon's for sure one of them. I mean, he
played Zod and friggin Superman and you're sitting there like, dude,
you're not gonna be Oh yeah you are. Yeah, that's
pretty great. God's money. Philip Seymour Hoffman was one of
my favorite actors ever. He beat me out on a movie.
That was when I was like twenty two years old.
That was the best audition of my life and I
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almost booked it and the director legit called me this
before cell phones got my number, called the and said
I have to. He said, I'm so sorry to do
this to you. Yours was my favorite audition. However, I
think we have an opportunity to work with Philip Seymour
Hoffman and Philip Seymore Hoffman was just getting hot, and
(39:14):
I was like I had just seen him in like
Boogie Nights, and was like, shit, I'm not as good
as him.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Like in my head.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
I didn't say that out loud, but I was like, god,
damn it. I worked so hard on like mine, yeah, yeah, man.
I worked so hard after that to get better, and
then like my next ten auditions, every time I went in,
I was so psyched out by Philip Seymour Hoffman that
I could that I sucked in all those auditions and didn't.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
You're like, God, are you guys seeing anyone else for
this role? And they're like, what do you mean, like
any Phillip Seymour Hoffman.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
Philip Seymour, something's anything in that world? Philip anything? No, Okay,
then I'd like to read. But yeah, that one hurt
your review, So Cayle King did not you guys? Stay
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Bigger isn't necessarily better. I get that you're a business.
I get that Vince's ego and Tony Kahan's ego they
want to be able to brag.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Oh we had nine million people in the room.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
We don't care. I don't care. I want to watch
good wrestling. I want to watch great stories. I don't
care what the name of the arena is and how
many seats were sold.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Now your maid even introducing the hosts wrestling win for
Ready Chef Died and for Ready Friends Junior.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
What's up? Everybody? Welcome to a brand new episode of
Wrestling with Friends. Happy New Year to all of you.
I hope you enjoyed the episodes. All we were one.
I know I got a couple comments on my little
miniature painting that I do on Instagram. Don't invade those
with non miniature painting comments. By the way, couple people
(01:00):
were pissed that we had like a repeat episode in there.
But don't worry. We're back. We're back, We're back. You
don't have to get mad. Jeff, how are you and
how is your holiday?
Speaker 1 (01:11):
I am feeling great. All my holidays were awesome.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
How many holidays did you get to have well.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
No, here's the thing. I think that some people are
are weird about people. Someone like someone in nineteen ninety
five used to say happy holidays, and that was normal.
Now if you say happy holidays, people go, it's Christmas,
Merry Christmas.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
I don't do this woke stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Here's the thing when people, when people say happy holidays,
they mean because you're getting like a holiday break. There's
Christmas Eve, Christmas, Hanukkah, probably New Year's Eve, you have
New Year's Day. Those are all holidays. It's a collection
of holidays. So that's why people say happy holidays, not
because I agree with Jeff. Yeah, my holidays.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
We can talk. Chris, Christmas was bad, dude. We went
to Hawaii, and I swear we go pretty much every year,
and we have some friends that live out there that
are so close to their family, and we got to
spend it with them, and we got to spend New
Year's with them and see cool fireworks, go diving, and
(02:17):
some dolphins rolled up on us while we were diving,
and we're just like swim. My wife posted video of
it on her Instagram. You guys can check it out.
I don't post that soft shit on my Instagram. Just
hard ass me and he's badass cars. But strengthen on her.
And these dolphins came up and hung out with us,
and this octopus was hanging out with us. And what else? Man,
(02:38):
We saw huge turtles, whales. It was wild.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Man.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
I went on like a three mile canoe trip with
my man Keanu. Almost tapped out bro because the wind
was in our face on the way out. It was like,
if he wasn't doing the Hawaii come on, brother, you
got it. Man, if he wasn't motivating me, it would
have been a full tap out. But we survived that,
and the way back was off and we serve some
waves on the way in, and it's just a real
(03:02):
spiritual place. Man. I got a real connection to that place.
I've been going there twenty five years now in a
row with me and the wife, and even a couple
of years before. My wife was when I first started
going out there, and I lived there with my mom
when I was a baby. She worked in a bunch
of restaurants, was kind of like a gypsy and couldn't
really commit to any place, so she would just sign
like a six month contract or a year contract. Get
(03:25):
your restaurant back off the ground or help set a
menu at a hotel restaurant and then just straight bounce
with her baby. That was me. We were in Hawaii,
and so she always said, I think you loved it
because that was like the first time you ever saw
the beach was when we were in Hawaii. And I
have like a real strong connection to that place. I
love the way they treat their elderly. I love the
(03:45):
way they raised their children. I love the way they
take care of their families and help one another. It's
very old school. It's like New Mexico where I grew
up in New Mexico outside of Albuquerque, in like Santa
Fe and Placidas, and certainly like nearby the reservations and
stuff like that, Like people looked out for one another,
and their grandparents would live with them when they got
too old and it wasn't like put them in a
(04:08):
home and all this, you know shit. So and I
just I like, I liked that old school way more
so I just connect there. And one day, when I
want to get big fat and harry, I'll retire out
there and life will be sweet. I would love to
retire there. Where were you? Where were you for the holiday?
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Well, for the holidays, I did a bunch of local
shows around town, went to the Comedy Magic Club, the
Laugh Actor, did a bunch of local shows, and then
I performed in Fort Wayne, Indiana for the weekend before Christmas,
went to mar A Lago to perform in Florida for
one night. Then that was for the thirtieth and then
on the thirty first, I went to Portland, Oregon and
(04:47):
performed two New.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Year's Eve shows.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Well I was supposed to do too, and I only
did one New Year's Eve show because someone got shot
with a gun in Portland, Orgon.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
It's Mary freaking Christmas. Yeah, that was nice, not ideal.
You didn't shoot him, did you know?
Speaker 1 (05:03):
They're just some drunk people that drank too much and
got into a squabble with a different couple. Jesus Christ
and some bad things happening, and then one of the
couples just said let's end this and shot him in
the stomach.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
It was really red dead, redemption. Oh my god, bro,
that's what. I don't mean to laugh. That's horrible. I
just laugh when I get uncomfortable. Just no, we didn't
know funened that.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
What happened? Do you drink too much.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
You gotta be responsible with your drinking and responsible with
your guns.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Or you're throwing knives if you have or throwing stars
like back in the eighties, you gotta be responsible with that.
My buddy got one stuck right in his arm because
Chris sanderbal chucked it at him and it right in
the freaking arm. Real throwing star got his ass. Sorry
Chris for naming you. Chris was a good guy. He
was in a jerk. That story makes him sound awful.
He was a really nice guy. By the way, We
(05:53):
were just playing ninjas, all right. Well, we both had
great holidays, and wrestling has changed forever. Who while we
were gone, Jeff, it's now streaming on everywhere. You can
stream from Max all the way over to Netflix. Well
those are really the only two places, so maybe not everywhere,
but this show records on Mondays and airs on Wednesdays,
(06:17):
so Monday night Ral will have already debuted by the
time y'all hear this whenever you like to listen. And
Dynamite has already aired on Max and everybody loved the
Max stream. Everything looked super clean. People were loving it,
and then it cut to commercial and people were fucking
(06:37):
pissed because there's no picture in picture on MAX, so
this was I think they'll be able to address this
and address it fairly quickly because there's existing models out
there already that they can just license the rights to
and then put it in THEIRS if they don't have
it already. But maybe they don't because they didn't anticipate that.
But they can do that, and they're a multi billion
(06:59):
dollar conglomerate, so they should do that. That's what services
the fans. But I know that was the one thing
people had beef with, but everybody liked the matches. Everybody
likes the Continental Classic, even though there's no story. It's
a tournament. There doesn't have to be one, and everyone
loves Okata and will Osprey. Did you get to see
the MAX stream or did you still watch it on
TNT or did you watch it on the TNT app?
(07:21):
What did you think? So watched on TNT.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Yeah, I didn't do the MAX thing, but I'm going
to that's a lot easier for me. I just didn't
even I'm so out of the loop on that kind
of thing that I didn't watch it.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
But you know, you say that.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
It's not all officially over on streaming yet, but this
is what they do. They test the thing and then
it's gonna be before you know it, every wrestling thing
will be on streaming. This is the proof of concept.
You might go, oh, ras on Netflix. Yeah, wait, everything's
gonna be on there.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
You'll see soon there won't be channels. Everything will be streaming.
The whole cyberpunk philosophy is like they weren't just science
fiction writers. They were futurists, projecting the future based on
the world world they were living in at that time
in the sixties and seventies, Like all this shit is
coming true from from Philip K. Dick to to as
(08:12):
a mo Off, like all the everything they said was
gonna happen is happening. And if you didn't read sci fi,
you're like whatever, nerd, But if you read it, you'll
be like, holy shit, that's kind of tripped out. So
anyway we will talk. Where are we going to talk?
Well we should talk. The one question that you had,
which I thought was really smart before the show started
was if I missed the live show, is it like football?
(08:36):
And am I not going to be able to see
it again? And our producer Alex who's the friggin' man
and knows everything about professional wrestling inside and out. He's
well educated, well versed, and he's just a fan and
he's a badass marine too. He had the answer to
the question, as he always does, and the answer is yes,
you can replay right away. You can even rewind while
(08:58):
you're watching live. That's how much love they're going to
give you. By the way, I was going to go
to the show tonight, but WWE made it so difficult
with their ticket situation. Not to be dicks, just the
process of it was so incredibly difficult that our tickets
ended up getting all spread out. We were a large group,
not a large group. We were a group of eight
for adults for kids, and we're not going to go
(09:20):
now because everybody was sitting in like different spots and
nobody was going to be that. It was more like
a technical thing, like the people we were dealing not
the people we were dealing with. The site we were
dealing with wasn't really allowing it. Netflix tried to come
in at the last minute and help us out, but
they couldn't offer us enough tickets together as a group
(09:40):
that late in the game, so it was like lower
bowl ring side up here over there, and this was
a group of kids that want to see the magic together.
And my wife was gonna come for the first time.
She was going to come to a WWE show. So
I was disappointed on that, not mad, just disappointed. I
wish it would have worked out better. You can take
that as criticism or say whatever, We're not changing our ways,
(10:01):
but UFC makes it way easier just and you guys
are owned by the same people like UFC. I've gone
twelve deep and they could not be more helpful. And
it was like perfect. Everything was there. And I'm not
talking about I want free tickets. I'm just talking about
seats together. That's all I'm talking about. I'll pay for tickets.
I don't care. But UFC does it at such a
(10:22):
high level. And WWE, since they like the merger basically
like or since that WrestleMania that you and I went
to together, has made it incredibly difficult and just weird
and unnecessarily hard to do the VIP ticket experience. Jeff
is coughing and dying on the podcast because he wanted
(10:42):
to adopt a dog, but we think he was allergic
to the dog. He's a really nice guy, and I
like when people adopt pooches. You don't have to if
you want to buy it. Don't worry. I won't ever
get mad at you. I don't judge. I just love animals.
But Jeff was trying to adopt one, and I think
he's slowly realizing that this isn't going to be the
guy for you.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Trying to save this little pooch, but he's killing me.
So it's between me and him. You know, we'll get
you a hypoallergenic one.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Man. Those doggies need homes too, So anyway, it's gonna
be on Netflix. You guys will have already watched it.
Hit us up in the common sections on our socials
and let us know what you think because that kind
of helps us shape our opinions on how you guys
are receiving the product and not just telling you guys
what we think about shit. So I can't tell you
how raw was because I don't know, but I can
(11:29):
tell you how the raw before this was. Jeff, you're
either about to sneeze or you want to say something. Yeah,
I was gonna say rest in peace to the WW network.
It's officially gone.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
I really enjoyed the WB Network because I sometimes will,
you know, if I order takeout or if I'm like
just chilling at my house, I'll put on like an
old RAW you know, from like when, you know, back
when I was a teenager and stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
And so it's officially gone.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
You can't, you can't log in, you can't you can try,
it says, go over to the other thing. So anyways,
rest in peace to the WB Network. That's why I
was so concerned with is Netflix gonna let me rewatch things?
Because sometimes I'll just put one on, you know, and
I would like to hope that that'll that the archived
episodes will live on there.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
But we'll see. Yeah, if I can't watch Shelton Benjamin
versus Sean Michaels on Monday Night Raw at least once
every three years, that would feel kinda kind of weird.
There's kind of weird.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Wrestling is better than it's ever been, but it's also
there's other stuff from back then that I liked too
that's better than now. So so I don't know, I
like to live in all of it. But well, we'll
see what happens with Netflix. They're advertising it like crazy,
so Yeah, hopefully that means they've they're putting all their
best efforts into it.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
All right, dude, see him Punk and Seth Rollins finally
had the promo that they should have had when they
first met. And maybe this was intentional, but they finally
cut each other to pieces. From what I've heard a
lot of people think Cmpunk one, I thought it was
fifty to fifty all the way down the line. Both
(13:07):
guys hit each other with with pseudo real stuff. It's all,
you know, agreed upon and scripted out to a certain degree.
But I thought this was the best they've done since
their story started, which is good because it's the payoff one,
which is why I try to give latitude and go.
Maybe they did it on purpose, but these guys could
(13:28):
have built this up earlier on with promos that I
just didn't think were quite at this level. These were
both tens like it was so good and it didn't
have to get physical because the words were just like,
let me cut you with this and cut you with that,
and how's your how's your wife? And she took off
(13:50):
as she equitped like he He came at Seth Rollins
and said stuff that got the crowd going. He got
the cmpunk chank going multiple times in a smart, organic way.
Seth Rollins came out in his white suit and he
hit him with what was more like, you hurt me,
you hurt us, and you never said sorry for it,
(14:10):
so fuck you. That's where seth rollins motivation is. He
hasn't said those words, but that's where he's coming from,
and that's why he refers to him leaving the audience
and all that he can't say you hurt me because
then he comes off week. But that's the more colorful,
manly way to say it. I'm just telling you guys
what he means. But they both had a great one.
You guys will have already seen the match by now,
(14:32):
so it sucks like getting to talk about it not
knowing before you. But I'm really excited to see in
this match. I hope I said this before with the
Drew thing. I thought Drew should have won that feud
and it gives Ciampunk a harder road. Declined like, am
I the one? Or am I Jimmy Connors in the
eighties at Wimbledon? And I'm just making it to the quarterfinals,
No fuck that, I'm making it all the way to WrestleMania.
(14:55):
Let me climb that mountain. I think that would have
been the better story. So I hope once again the
right person wins, and I believe that should be Seth Rollins,
but we won't know yet. Seth, did you like this
segment as much as me? And are you hype for it?
Or do you not give two shits about the well
dressed Seth Rollins? I don't give a shit See Him Punk.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
I love it. I love what they're doing. I'm gonna
be excited to watch it.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
I will.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
I'm a little mad at myself. When when will I
stop believing everything?
Speaker 4 (15:26):
I just can't. I'm still I'm forty one years old.
I'm still going.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
I think Seth really hates seem Punk Like it's like
I just I believe that until recently, obviously, because you know,
back in the day, there was like they interviewed Seth
Rollins when he was over at aw about what was
going on with CM Punk and see him Punk's like
that guy's a cancer. He's blah blah blah. And I
don't believe they were leading up to any big matchup.
(15:50):
Then they didn't even know if CM punk would ever
come back to w B, so I remember thinking, he
really hates him, he really hates him, and so now
this kind of reveals that it wasn't that I don't
really hate each other. There's a mutual respect there. So
it was a little disappointing to go I'm an idiot.
I fell for it again. There's nothing is real in wrestling,
But I am excited for it, and I think it's
(16:10):
gonna be great. They're both the superstars. I feel like
seth Rawlins might even be the cmpunk of what cmpunk
used to be in wrestling. I think that that's a
fair comparison. But I'm very, very excited about it, and
I loved what they did. I love bringing the wifes
into the talk. That's very good for both of them too,
because both of them have wrestler wives.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
So I just loved it. I think it's gonna be great.
I'm very excited to watch it finally happened. Jeff, You've
been sitting here going, God, damn it, Win, just do
it already. What the hell? Why is it taking so long? Well,
she did it. She heard you, she got the message,
and she finally cashed in. And Tiffany Stratton is the
(16:55):
new Women's Champion. She cashed in on Naya Jacks and
to wait for the slow ass ref to get in
the rig, start the damn match. He gets in the ring,
she does her. They call it the prettiest of moon salts,
a lot of moon salts in the WWE, and she
nailed it perfect and Naya Jacks went down one, two, three,
And Tiffany Stratton, who they have strapped a rocket ship too,
(17:19):
is now the Women's Champion and going to have an
opportunity to be one of the two female faces of
the brand while Becky and Charlotte are still out. A
lot of people are speculating Charlotte's about to come back
and she'll be Tiffany's first sort of real challenge. Becky
could come back at any moment, but I think Becky
would be on Monday Night Raw and not on Friday
(17:40):
night SmackDown. So are you happy to see it? I
don't know what's going to happen. I think it's very
early with Tiffany Stratton. I think she's very green. I
don't know if that character in its current form is
going to be able to carry that much weight. It
was something that she came up with in NXT that
(18:01):
I thought got her to the next level, but we
haven't really seen an evolution of that yet. If she's ready,
you're going to see growth really really fast, because she
is going to have a lot to say in promos
and you'll see it developed like you saw it in
Solo Socoa, like it happened fast, like not on a
three month to three month basis, you almost saw it
on a week to week basis. And if she's not ready,
(18:22):
you'll see that too. But they're giving her a huge
opportunity to be the face of this franchise. She's recently
signed with Paradigm, which is a high level agency out
here in Hollywood, Like, they have big plans for her,
So we shall see. But were you happy to finally
see the damn money in the bank briefcase get cashed
in instead of just being a prop to hit people
(18:44):
in the face with? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (18:45):
I mean, I wonder if fans are gonna forget how
long that they drew that out, like our fans gonna
forgive how tedious it was that she just finally checked it.
But at least it was good to see money in
the bank, check in or cash in and then them winning.
That was pretty cool. I liked that there was no
weird shenanigans. There was no like close call doesn't get
(19:08):
it to make that whole lead up a waste.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
But I love I love that that she's the new champ.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
I'm I'm actually really skeptical of her character and of
her I'm wondering if it's gonna work. I heard rumors
I don't know if you heard this they're gonna give
her a pink belt, that they might give her an
actual belt, Yeah, like a pink one, So I guess
that'd be cool to see.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
K I'm not a pink guy. I don't like the
color pink. I never it matches her though, Yeah, it'll
match her. But I'm not going to be like, oh,
look at that pink belt. I'm not going to say
that if it was like blood red and I could
look kind of stained like the one Jack Perry did,
but leather, I'd be like, oh look at that sexy belt.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
But worst worst belt ever was the Fiends. Remember when
they put the Fiend like a Fiend belt.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
You know. I hated the Spinner belt. I hated the
Fiend belt. I hated the way the Diva's belt looked terrible.
They're there. Those are like my three worst belts ever,
my favorite winged Eagle, big gold belt, those are my
two favorites. But yeah, my my three least ones are
are are those three? For sure? For sure? Sure?
Speaker 1 (20:18):
So here's the thing, Tiffany Stratton, I'm open to be
persuaded on her.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
Hell yeah, everyone deserves it.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
But I'm reasonably skeptical, and I'm glad she beat Nia
Jack's so that shows they believe in her and and
and all that, and so I'm I'm open to it.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
They're gonna put her in a hopefully in an environment
that's conducive to success. That was really hard for me
to say, so I like a round of applause. So
hopefully she's able to execute. You know, I feel they
they push people way too fast, and their sink or
swim mentality is not always the right way to do things,
but that's the way they've done it since forever and
(20:56):
they're not going to change. So there's nothing I can
say to to get what I want. But yeah, so
hopefully she gets uh, she gets the right opportunity and
it kicks ass. Let's move on, sir, to the bloodline,
which has now been injected with adrenaline because of Paul Hayman,
(21:18):
who cut just an awesome promo, And I know we
should talk about Cody Rhods in the Championship with Kevin Owns,
and we will if we have time, but that's not
the most exciting. Those aren't the most exciting things going
on in wrestling right now, because I think everybody knows
that Cody's gonna have the belt to wrestle Mania, so
he's gonna beat Kevin at the Royal Rumble and it'll
(21:38):
be you know who's next, who's gonna get money in
the bank, who are they going to cash in on?
Who's his opponent is going to be Roman again, So
I think that's more the direction of that. So there
we covered it, but the bloodline is now Solo Socoa.
Solo interrupted Paul Hayman's awesome promo and it was awesome,
and he came out with energy. He was like, he
(21:59):
had so much energy and to see that kind of
range from where he was totally stressed out and hadn't
slept and just looked disheveled all the time. When he
was with Solo under duress, he was like indentured servitude
to Solo and just his promos were weak and frail
and fragile, and he's asked, please help me, like he's
(22:20):
asking for help all this stuff to where he is now,
where he's like and Lockmann and just yelling in that
mic and cutting these amazing I'm the greatest manager of
all time promos. He gets interrupted by Solo, and you
see Solo who he's become from where he started. I
(22:41):
don't know if anyone's gotten better quicker. I'm not saying
he's better than the best. I'm not saying he's a
top dude on the mic. I'm just saying from where
he started to where he is now, and that short
amount of time, he's developed so much on the freaking microphone.
I'm not a wrestler and I don't book matches, so
I can't critique his wrestling. I know it looks like
(23:01):
he knocks the shit out of people, and I think
that looks cool. But his mic work is so much better,
and he's getting so good, and he's trying to go
toe to toe with Paul Hayman, and Hayman's selling for
him emotionally and being scared when he's like, yeah, he
if he wins, then he gets the Ula Fallow. But
when I win and I will win, he's like even
(23:22):
listening to the crowd because they're like, no, I're not
going ahead. He's like, no, I will win. Then I
get the Ula Falla. You put it around my neck
and you become my wise man forever. And Paul Hayman
just shook and is like, oh shit, and Solo hands
in the microphone and Paul Hayman just drops it, just
(23:44):
gets the fuck out the ring because he's too scared
of Solos A cool and it is such a good
shot in the arm for this storyline. It's why it's
still the best storyline in all of wrestling, regardless of
whether it's ae W, WWE or TNA. It's it's so good.
They have so many high level people barking on the microphone.
They bring in these like guest stars once in a while,
(24:06):
the Sammy's Ains of the world, even to see him
punk there for one quick second. But it always seems
to work. I don't even feel like they've made a
misstep this this whole time, at least not one I
can think of. And if there is one, everything else
was so good. I forgot about it. Uh, but I
love this Paul Hayman segment. And you love Paul Hayman,
so he could say whatever and you'd be like, you
(24:27):
fucking rule broke. Well he does.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
He just I like him because everything he says is great.
He's so yeah, he's the best mic work guy ever.
I put him above Stone Cold, I put him above
the Rock. And what I'm hoping is that he teams
up with the Rock.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Paul Haman the Rock. No one would ever be able
to hang with them on the mic ever.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
It' I don't know why they would do that, because
you know both of them are so good at mic work.
It seems would be whatever, but it would be like
taking two of your best stars and putting him as
a tag team is like the tag team of Mike works.
So I would love to see it. I love Paul Hayman.
I think everything he does is gold. So I'm very
very very very very excited for what they're doing. Also,
(25:11):
I've always liked Solo Sakoya.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
I went are Solo Sokoa. I love when you call
him Sequoya though, because he's about as big as one.
He's huge. Well, I like the way they rolled him out.
You know, I don't.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
I don't feel like with the Internet nowadays and with
shows like ours and shows like other people's, you you know,
we've kind of already know when a wrestler's coming. Oh money,
Sasha Banks is coming. You know, she's gonna go over
the where she's gonna sign. We have all this like
behind the scenes kind of stuff. We have all these
things like Jade car Gill's gonna be there, but she's
(25:43):
at the wrestling center, you know, and then what they're
gonna roll her.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
And then Ronda Rowse.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
He's always talking about how well I needed more train,
I wasn't ready yet, blah blah blah. Whereas with Solo Solo,
we just saw this dude in the ring, and who's
probably what we didn't see was those reps. He was
taking all the matches, all the bumps, he was taking
all the whites.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
He's getting better.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
And then on Monday night we would just see him
in the ring and he'd occasionally give someone the Samoan
spike like it was really smart way to roll him out,
in my opinion, And so now we're getting to see
how talented this guy is. He's probably wrestled his whole life,
but now he was like really training and grinding like
in these last few years.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
I just love him. Who do you think looks more
intimidating with our arms crossed? Me or Solo Sokoia? All right,
give us the best one here? Let me see it?
Here we go? Uh you? Yeah? Definitely come on, Solo
stepperd game up. You're wax so you wouldn't beat us.
This is the real tag team. I think you might
(26:41):
get our head. Moving on to a Dubbs. As we
said at the top of the show, Dynamite and Collision
are now on Max. If you don't have that app,
get it. Prepare to cut all your cords because soon
there will be no TV and everything will just be
corporate streaming. But then one day a small terrestrial television
(27:05):
station will re debut fifteen years from at the time
they're all gone, and it'll be this rebel Outlaws station
that'll have shows like what was that Canadian guy Tom
something had that talk show back in the day in
the late eighties or nineties. It'll be shows like that.
It'll be shows like what is that Morton Downey Junior show?
(27:25):
Loudmouth guys like that, and all these shows. I know
it will start to make a comeback and then they'll
have their first scripted show and people go, well, scripted
TV doesn't suck. This is actually kind of cool. And
I don't have to watch all these shows in one night.
I can wait from week to week. Now, that'll never
happen anyway. Back to streaming a Dub's. They're wrapping up
their tournament. I'm kind of grateful for it. I know
(27:46):
you get awesome matches, and that's the reason that we
watch aw is more for the matches. But they can
do good stories. I've seen them do good stories, and
I want them to do more good stories. So I'm
kind of glad the tournament is over and we can
get back. We can kind of dive back into that
because they got a lot of guys back. Edges back
(28:08):
or sorry, Adam Copeland is back, didn't mean Edgebroski broken
ankle and all still came back and he's ready to
kick ass and he's ready to fight John friggin Moxley.
I'll be honest with you, I don't want to see
mjf versus Moxley again. I saw that he used the
brass nuts from from William regal Woo Boom got the championship.
(28:29):
I don't want to see him as a babyface in
Moxley as the heel. I want to see almost called
him Edge again. I want to see Cope, that's what
they're gonna call him now. I want to see Cope
get the title. And I want to see MJF versus
Adam friggin Copeland because that match has never happened. It
would be a first time ever and it would be
for the AEW Championship, and those two dudes on the
(28:51):
mic would be money. It would be the old lion
that MGF could just talk shit to about how old
and busted he is and how he's the new hotness
and you have to just deal with all that. And
Edge would be like, look, kid, you don't know what
I got for you, but it's coming in and it
would be great and I would love it. So that's
what I hope happens. Although as reality kind of settles
(29:12):
in on my promo right there, John Moxley is probably
not going to lose this for a long time, so
I don't know if if even Copeland can get him.
But that's what I'd like this.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
With mjf's wrestling knowledge and with mjf's mic work. Could
you imagine the promo he would drop on Cope like
on Adam Copeland Edge, Oh my gosh, I would.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
It would be the best, No, dude, those two going
in on each other because Edges or Copeland is good
at at being reactionary, like his whole like he's we
always like him more when he's reactionary, even as a heel.
It would someone would talk shit to him, like about
all the relationship stuff and stuff like that, because they
(29:54):
would do real life and promos and he would react hute,
like oh, I could just say, oh, you son of
a bitch, I'll get you up a bit like that
was more him and MJF is more an active guy.
He starts the argument, whether he's the babyface or the heel.
He starts the shit all the time. He likes to
stir up the pot and Copeland has to taste it.
And that's why I think the two of them would
(30:15):
go so well together, man, because their approach to promo
work is so different but so complimentary because it's like, yeah, dude,
throw your best shit at me and I'll take it.
Like Adam Sandler and Happy Gilmore when he's in the
batting cage and he's like, here, I love it, gimme Moore,
Like that's that's who those two guys are. One is
the ocean and the other's a sponge and you can
just soak up everything and then at the end of
(30:37):
the promo, we just squeeze you and see what comes out,
and what comes out as a Sick Championship match. So
I really want to see that, man, and I hope
that's the direction they go, and it could happen, but
it's not gonna. I'd love it. Well, thank you man,
I appreciate that. Oh and this is more business, I
guess than it is, like what's going on? But I
like talking about this stuff too. Aw did Hammerstein, and
(31:01):
it was way better than when they do the big arenas.
It felt full because it was it's an arena they
can pack. The wrestlers had really good energy in there,
like like they liked the crowd. They didn't miss It
didn't feel like anyone missed a big arena. It didn't
feel like anyone was missing seventeen thousand. It felt more like, yo,
(31:23):
thank you for this six thousand or whatever. The number was.
I don't know what it was, five thousand, whatever it was,
I don't care. But it felt intimate. It felt cool.
I went to a Prince concert one night at this
little twelve hundred like seat club and it was like
the coolest concert I ever went to. He only played
three songs, which was kind of a dick move, but
but the opening suck. The opening acts was pretty good,
(31:47):
three sallongs, three songs bouncing then Shallamar played Shalamar. Was cool,
but anyway, it sucks. It did, dude. People were pissed.
They wanted their money back. For sure. I was drunk,
so I didn't care, so anyway, so it felt cool.
The vibe was right. I'd like to see them do
more smaller theaters and ballrooms or whatever you call them,
(32:08):
smaller arenas. It's not a hollow space. It's actually full
of people, full of flesh. It's a sea of flesh
that you must circumnavigate. And I really liked it, and
I hope people continue to dig it. Because they can
sell out their pay per views, but they can't sell
out their TV shows for whatever reason. I think that
reason is because the lack of stories that people want
(32:29):
to see on a week to week basis, but I
could be totally wrong because that may not connect from
a city to city, arena to arena thing. That may
be more a television product, which is what I'm more
accustomed to. But until they're able to fill up these
arenas on their dynamites and whatever their next show is
going to be, since they got rid of Rampage, I'd
like to see them continue this model because it seems
(32:50):
to be working, and eventually the demand will outgrow the
places you're going to and you won't be able to
sell enough, or you will be able to sell so
many seats that you can't sell any more and you
need to and then you can go up, but you
don't need to start so big. I get why they
did it because you wanted to compete with WWE, but
now it's like it's five years in almost six years
in let's find ourselves, let's find who we are, and
(33:13):
once we do, let's establish that and grow from there.
That's my philosophy, Jeff.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
I also, this will be a weird stand up comedy
take on this, but it's like, this is this is
my comedy club. Brain talking Bigger isn't necessarily better. I
get that you're a business. I get that Vince's ego
and Tony Kahn's ego. They want to be able to brag.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Oh, we had nine million people in the room.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
We don't care. I don't care. I want to watch
good wrestling. I want to watch great stories.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
I don't care what the name of the arena is
and how many.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Seats were sold. Just put good wrestling out there. And
it's same with like a comedy show like Bert Kreischer
Andrew Schultze. These guys are like I sold out Madison
Square Garden. It's like, yeah, I don't really give a shit.
What I want to see is like a good show.
I want to see good comedy. Sometimes a small comedy
club venue. The crowd is like, oh man, I got
to be right there. The energy in the room, and
(34:12):
if storytelling is part of energy, it's part of like
a thing, like anything will work that that should cater
to the story.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
I don't care if it's.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
A giant stadium or a tiny little thing like they
do it like NXT or yeah, any of those small things.
If the if the product's good and the wrestling's good,
that that's all that should matter.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
In my opinion, I couldn't agree with you more man.
Some of the greatest stand up shows I've ever seen
were at Jamie's. I don't know if Jamie still runs it,
but I think his name was Jamie Medina's Laugh Factory. Masada.
That's his last name. Dude, did you know this is
a weird side quest. He was my dad's like homie
back in the seventies, and I think actually like worked
for him a little bit, like not as I can't
(34:53):
imagine them hanging out, No, dude, they totally did. They
were friends, and this was before he owned laugh Factory,
and he was like, you know, just coming up in
whatever business he was going to come up, and they
were friends all the way back then. But some of
the best comedy shows I've ever seen were at that club.
And that club is not a giant theater. It does
not hold thousands and thousands of people. Know, there were
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maybe you know, one hundred and twenty asses in seats.
And I've seen some of the best shows that I've
ever seen in my life there and shows that I
remember to this day, Jokes that I remember to this day,
reactions from the crowd that I remember to this day,
and it's all from an intimate location. And what would
you rather?
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Would you rather brag that you were at a wrestling
show that had a few hundred people you were like,
I saw that I was there, Or if you're like
I was at that WrestleMania, you're like everyone was at
that wrestle meeting. They sold ninety million seats. So I
just think it is better and go ahead. If you
want to sell out your giant rome like Arenas, that's
okay too.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
But why do I care?
Speaker 1 (35:56):
I should care about the actual wrestling and the actual story.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
That's what's important. You know, who cares about actual stories.
One of our listeners, so cal King thirty two, and
he gave us a review Jeff, and first of all,
it's five stars. So thanks for that, love man. We
appreciate that, and that for real man, that helps the show.
It helps the show grow, It helps with algorithms. I
(36:19):
don't know what that part means, but that's what they
tell me. And here's what he wrote, I should have
worn the glasses, Jeff. Damn it. If there was a
Paul Hayman biopic, who would Oh, Paul GIAMONTI I already know. Well,
let me finish reading who would play him in the movie.
I think it could be Paul Giamatti. What say you, guys, dude, So,
(36:40):
Cayle King, We're on the same page. As soon as
I read the first part of your message, man, it
was one guy popped in my head. Yeah, Paul Giamatti. Bro,
who would be better than that? Nobody unless you put
like Steve Buscemi in a fat suit, right or you
can't say fat suit anymore, a helly kevy suit heavy.
(37:01):
George Carlin said this, and I defend him. Aircraft carriers
are heavy. People are fat, and so I'm sticking with
the fat suit, and I rebuke my apology.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
Yeah, there's also nothing wrong with fat, even embracing the term.
They go, I'm a fat bodied person.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
So, dude, I don't care if you're skinny or fat,
but I'm gonna call you skinny and I'll be like
a judgment. It's an observation. Thank you, so so, Kyle King,
thank you for that. Yeah, Paul Giomotti would be amazing, Jeff,
you can't outcast that. You can't think of someone better
than Paul Giaomotti, No freaking way.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Philip Seymour Hoffman would have been great.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
Oh dude, you just did it. But he's passed away. No,
I know, but he would have just crushed that.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Paul Giamatti is so talented that I think he could
play anyone.
Speaker 4 (37:44):
In a bio pic. Paul Giammotty's pretty great, dude. Yeah, wow,
man won a pool with Philip Seymour Hoffman. He'd have
been great. Remember him as the bad guy in the
Mission of Possible Movies. I know they're not the best movies,
but he was like when he was like, I'm gonna
hurt you. Oh yeah, achure family, Like I'm sitting there like, dude,
what the hell this is? Like? Performance is so much
(38:05):
better than what this movie deserves, right, That's what those
movies great.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
They custom Sometimes when people think of biopics, they think
about the way the actor looks, which is something you
should definitely do for sure. But there's a movie called
Elvis and Nixon. Elvis is played by Michael Shannon. Michael
Shannon looks nothing like Elvis. He is so talented that
after the first like five ten minutes of the movie,
you're like, that's Elvis. I'm watching Elvis Like there's some
(38:31):
magical guys out there.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
That can that can really pull that kind of stuff off.
Man Shannon's for sure one of them. I mean, he
played Zod and friggin Superman and you're sitting there like, dude,
you're not gonna be Oh yeah you are. Yeah, that's
pretty great. God's money. Philip Seymour Hoffman was one of
my favorite actors ever. He beat me out on a movie.
That was when I was like twenty two years old.
That was the best audition of my life and I
(38:54):
almost booked it and the director legit called me this
before cell phones got my number, called the and said
I have to. He said, I'm so sorry to do
this to you. Yours was my favorite audition. However, I
think we have an opportunity to work with Philip Seymour
Hoffman and Philip Seymore Hoffman was just getting hot, and
(39:14):
I was like I had just seen him in like
Boogie Nights, and was like, shit, I'm not as good
as him.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Like in my head.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
I didn't say that out loud, but I was like, god,
damn it. I worked so hard on like mine, yeah, yeah, man.
I worked so hard after that to get better, and
then like my next ten auditions, every time I went in,
I was so psyched out by Philip Seymour Hoffman that
I could that I sucked in all those auditions and didn't.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
You're like, God, are you guys seeing anyone else for
this role? And they're like, what do you mean, like
any Phillip Seymour Hoffman.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
Philip Seymour, something's anything in that world? Philip anything? No, Okay,
then I'd like to read. But yeah, that one hurt
your review, So Cayle King did not you guys? Stay
tuned for un Sanctioned Thursdays, where we'll get into everything
and more. We might not even talk wrestling. I might
give you guys an update. I might not. We'll see
how I feel. Yeah, it's not good, so I guess
I'll talk about it anyway. Stay tuned til then peace.
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