October 23, 2024 • 33 mins
Welcome to the ultimate episode of Wrestling with Friends! We've got a jam-packed show for you as we dive into Rhea Ripley's dominance in the ring, Bron Breaker's feud with Jey Uso, and Roman Reigns as the tribal chief. We also talk about the significance of wrestling managers, Jon Moxley's compelling bad guy persona, and the return of Adam Cole baby!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Bro managers are making a comeback big time. And let
me tell you something, if I have my own wrestling promotion,
or I should say win, that's the positive thinking way
of looking at it. Wrestling managers are going to be
heavily featured. I think they're way underserved. I think they
can do such a great job for wrestlers who can't speak.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
And now you're mad even introducing ghosts wrestling win for Ready,
Jef died and for Ready friends, tunor.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to a brand new episode of
Wrestling with Friends with me as Jeff Die. I'm Freddie Prinz.
Let's start the show. Jeff, Welcome back, sir. How was
your weekend? I saw photos. It looked like you had fun,
more fun than you thought you were gonna have.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
I am traveling all over the Giant but it's been great.
I'm getting to see this beautiful country. So the weather
is good everywhere. Have you noticed this, Well, that's that
lovely climate change. Man, It's improved conditions for everybody. It's incredible.
I was in New York, I was in Houston. Obviously,
I'm in LA now, but I was in DC. Everywhere
I'm going I was in Colorado. They're they're going, oh,
(01:17):
what a beautiful day. It's like everywhere has just been
beautiful weather.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
It's been great. See all you people complaining about the
aerosol deodorants and my old school car that puts gas
into the air and destroys the ozone and it's warming
the planet. All I did was improve Jeff's weekend. Sorry, yeah, also, yeah,
me apologize for that.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
They say, Oh, this is the hottest it's been in
New York.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
How do we know.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
We've only been keeping track of that for a few
hundred years. Maybe New York is famously that's its weather
thousands of years ago, maybe a million years ago, before
humans were here.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
How do we know? What do you know? Oh, we're
measuring a small little.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
I'd be like judging my body's health based on one hour.
My body's been around for forty years and I'm judging
it based on one hour.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
That's what we're doing to the earth. Well, it was
hot here fifty years ago. You're like, who cares? The
Earth does? What Earth does? All I know is warm,
and I like it because the cold sucks. If you
live somewhere cold, come move out here. It's gorgeous, all right,
jes lots of wrestling to get into. Rhea Ripley comes
from a place that's really hot. It's called Australia. I'll
be going there in about a month to do the
(02:26):
I not you did last summer sequel. Their winter or
our winter is their summer, so I don't even have
to experience winter this year, Jeff. People like me and
really Rhea Ripley are truly blessed because I get to
go and have summer all year long, and she gets
to get the biggest freaking pop in wrestling on the
active roster. I'm not saying if like a Legend comes back,
(02:47):
they wouldn't get a bigger pop. But every single week
when they're showing all the people coming into the building
and well and see him Punk, see them, Punk gets
the biggest But he's not full time Itt maybe he
is and they're just storylining him part time. But as
far as takes them Punk out of the picture, she
gets the biggest pop every single time she comes out there,
(03:08):
and this week was no different. And then she gets
to open the show. When she comes out, she looks awesome.
She looks like a bad ass, like she would really
beat you up. That's what Jeff and I love about her.
She looks like she actually kicks ass. The only way
Live Morgan can beaters through cheating with Dominic Mysterio or
rock Hel Rodriguez or a kendo stick. That's the only
way she went otherwise, Real will kill you, girl, kill you.
(03:32):
She comes out and she challenges Live and Raquel, and
who does she gets? She gets Tiffany Stratton, which was
odd and strange, and the crowd thought so as well,
and then she explained why it wasn't so odd and strange.
She said, look, Nia Jack sent me out here, and
she said you better stay out of her business. You
look punk ass bitch, or she's gonna kick your ass.
(03:52):
And Riel was like, yo, did you just call me
a punk ass bitch? I will kill your ass, and
they kind of get in each other's face. It wasn't
written exactly like that, and then all of a sudden,
Rackel Rodriguez and Live Morgan and Women's Champion jump in
the ring and they beat up on Tiffany Stratt and
to hit her with her own briefcase, which is just disrespectful,
and then Raquel helps Outlive because she's getting shit kicks
(04:13):
out of her by Ripley she wouldn't have, and that
they stand on top while Riha and poor Tiffy Stratton
got beat down and Live Morgan did her evil laugh
that everyone loves to hate, and that was the segment.
I don't care who Ria Ripley's fighting. I'm always going
to be rooting for Ria Ripley. I think she's the
(04:36):
most accessible, like emotionally accessible wrestler on camera. I think
you can relate to her the way men related to
Bruce Willis in the Diehard franchise and they were like,
that's John McClain, and if I was in that situation,
that's what I would do too, damn it. And it's
this fantasy life that you can actually live. I think
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people see a lot of themselves in re maybe not
physically because she's unique and is one of a kind,
but in her attitude towards life, and they want to
say the things she says, they want to do the
things she does, and most most importantly, they want to
react to situations the way Rhea Ripley reacts to situations.
She's head first. It's like an old actor exercise, right,
(05:20):
like what's your obstacle? My obstacle or what's your goal?
My goal is to beat the bad guy? What's your obstacle?
His obstacle is his power is stronger than my power.
So what kind of character are you? How do you
deal with the obstacle? Are you he man? Do you
run straight through it? Are you sneaky with your brain?
(05:40):
Do you go around the obstacle? Are you a coward?
Are you Shaggy and Scooby? Do you run away from
the obstacle? Or are you Bruce Lee? Are you agile?
Do you literally and figuratively jump over the ops? How
do you deal with the obstacle? Ria Ripley goes straight
through the obstacle? She is the badass she is John McClain,
I love her so much. I don't care who she's
(06:00):
working with. I think Liv Morgan's Mike work's gotten way
better from last year to this year. So I like
the story that they're telling. And they only give live wins.
If she cheats, she's never going to get something straight
on Riha. I like the way they protected Rhea's character.
But most importantly, or not most importantly, equally as important,
it's how you feel about Ria, because you were the
(06:21):
first one to talk about her on this podcast. Not me, sir,
it was you.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Well, I'm biased because she's got a great look, she's
got a she's got a great build, she has kind
of like the she's the total package for for wrestling,
especially female wrestling. She's got all the things you're looking for.
Remember in the NBA when you had you had a
big Shaquille O'Neil who could dunk the ball, and then
you had like a power forward that could that could
(06:46):
make the thing. Then you'd have like a kind of
a fiery three point shooter. If you needed the big three,
you could kick it out to the outside.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
And then a guy came along named Dirt Novitzky and
he was a seven footer who could also make threes.
And you're like, this is unusual, but he can dunk,
he can like he's a five tool guy. I feel
like that is exactly what we see with with Rhea Ripley.
She's got all the things you could put. She's dressed
like someone who is trying to prove to their parents
(07:12):
that they're not religious, Like I'm wearing the leather, I'm
not like you, I'm not in the church. And it's
like it works yeah, it feels she looks so bad
at work. Yeah, I like, I feel like things that
shouldn't work she can make work. And then she's just
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so physical. I really believe she could beat up any
female wrestler if you don't count like Ronda Rousi or
like some of these MMA girls like SHANEA.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Basler. But she's so good. Everything she does is absolutely great.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
One thing I did want to point out before we
move on from this is I wish wwe would stop
dragging out the money in the bank briefcase. I feel
like titles we should have to wait for, but I
feel like the money in the bank stuff, like, let's
use it. Why do we have to drag it out
so long?
Speaker 1 (08:02):
They haven't been good with it so like, But if
they have a good story, then yeah, you can drag
it out. But that you have done multiple stories, not
just one. But I totally agree with you. They drag
it out almost every year and the story is not
motivated the way it should be. I totally agree with
you on that.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Maybe this here's a little pitch, maybe the if anyone
from WB listens to this, here's my idea. Once you
use the money in the bank, it becomes yours. So
like if it's used on you, you now have the money,
kind of like the twenty four to seven Championship, Like
maybe explain that I'm dumb. I don't understand. Well, you're
not dumb, it's just it might be a dumb idea.
(08:38):
Here's the thing. So, like let's say you're the champ
and I use the money in the bank on you
right now if I if I get the title and
I've given you, know, I use the money in the
bank briefcase to pin you. You now have the money
in the bank briefcase, like you now keep the Now
you have a chance to cash it in at any
time you want.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
The loser gets the case. Yeah, and if because you
can't get rewarded as the loser, it'd be awesome.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
It like I got screwed, but now I'm gonna screw
somebody because it's a it follows you.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Have to win it in the match because they would
take away the match and the match is so much fun.
The money in the bank match you don't like that,
that's the problem. You can't. You can't. You can't find
a new winner. No, I don't think you can give
the loser a reward. That's you're so anti giving everyone
a trophy, aren't you? Yes? Really, yeah, I mean even
the losing I think the losing team gets should get trophies.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
No, but they should get a nice handshake, which is
the same thing as yeah, you still get still played.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
They still played the game. I don't. Yeah, they gave
it to my to my kids even if they lost,
and I hated it. I was just like, oh, what
if we lost. They should know how that feels. It sucks.
It does suck. I'm older than you, so maybe that's fine.
(10:02):
All right, dude, bron freaking Breaker, the son of the
great Steiner jay Uso, son of Rakishi. These are generational dudes.
They got a generational beef coming up that I hope
takes us all the way to Netflix and they don't
end it before then. But I can't see. Nah, it's
(10:23):
only October. It's gonna end soon. Never mind, these dudes
are gonna have beef. Bron Breaker explained his side of
the story, and his side of the story was, Yo,
you didn't show me the same respect I showed you,
and because of that, I'm gonna frigging destroy you and
I'm gonna punish you, and nobody's ever gonna speak to
me that way again. And it's not even what you
(10:44):
said to me, it's what you didn't say. I told you, hey,
big ups to you, big respect. You beat me straight up.
You didn't say shit back, basically except yet, so so
fuck you man, like we're not We're not cool. And
that's why I speared you twenty seven times and why
I'm gonna bust your ass. I was going to move
on to bigger things, but no, dude, after that, I'm
beat your ass. And they wrote it differently than that.
(11:07):
I didn't. I didn't think it was as colorful as
it could be. But maybe the Brown Breaker characters not
as colorful as I want him to be. Maybe he's
more of a you know, the boulder that chases Indiana
Jones in the first movie, just moving straight ahead with
as little burbage as possible. But I think he could
handle it. So maybe that's why I want to I
want to see it. But I will say this, they're
(11:29):
shooting this stuff cooler now. When I worked there, this
would have just been eyes to camera, no room for anything.
But that. I don't know if he's doing that stylistically
or if there's Q cards there that are helping him out.
I know they've used Q cards in the past, but
either way, I still thought he was doing a good
job and he's growing. He's not the best promo in
the WWE yet, but considering he's been there for three days,
(11:52):
he's doing a really really good job. He's making me
want to watch them wrestle again and giving us a
reason why, which I think is super super important. How
did you feel, sir.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Yeah, I'm all in on bron Breaker. I just want
to see more, that's all. I feel like we're not
getting enough bron Breaker, especially after all the heat. Wait,
we use heat in wrestling as good Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Well he's heat can be a good thing. When you're
a bad guy, you want to get heat, you want
people to be mad at you. Well, in business, he
was getting. Yeah, heat and show business is a good
thing no matter what, because it means people. Yeah, I
see what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Yeah, I meant it in the way that we use it,
like heat and comedy means like everyone's talking about you.
So bron Breaker months ago, everyone was talking about him.
He was like literally the hottest thing to that. That
was like in the scene, so I guess I just
kind of feel like that's died a little, that momentum
died a little, So I wish we could see more
of him. I'd like them when you're about to build
(12:46):
in him. So I'm happy as long as I can
get some more bron Breaker before I make any opinions
about him.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
But I already like him. It would be cool if
they went back and forth and had like a cool rivalry.
I don't think they'll do that, but if they did
have a rivalry, could take them to January and then
you can have brown Breaker move on to the bigger
and better things that I think the company sees for him,
or at least the general public does. But yeah, he's
big and bad. I think i'd like to see less
(13:12):
j if I'm honest. More. I think Jay's the freaking man.
I think he's charisma. I think most men like him.
My wife digs him. I think women dig him. I
think he's a universal kind of guy. Man, you're not
feeling the yeat dude, are you? Team no Yee? Maybe
just this version of him. I'm not crazy about bro
(13:35):
We got no yea.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
The second he said said no lost me, he lost me,
right when he goes no yea and walks away.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
I was like, oh no, we got we got to
you and I have a problem. I don't know. If
I don't know, I'm real. I can be easily influenced.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
There's a thing, we'll see it. I'm weak to weak dude.
That's the same people could call me in a lot
of things. But you you give me two good reasons
to like a guy, and I go.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Okay, I like them. You know, by the way, the
cardigan's looking good, it's growing on me. Man, you rock
the cardigan to the show today. You look very mature,
or like a mature statesman. Not a statesman, they wouldn't
wear a cardigan. You look like a guy who like
like a beat poet, like Jack Kerouac. You just need
a hat, a cool head.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
No one's ever worn a cardigan and been stressed out
about something, you know, like, there's no cardigans. No one's
rocking a cardigan around going oh good, what's happening in
the Middle East? You know that this is like I
got my espresso, my kids are running around, my wife's happy,
and I drink it.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
You know, it feels very cardigany. Before we move on
to smack sound. I guess we can talk Crown Jewel.
The Crown Jewels super goofy. To me, it only exists
because they gave the WW like forty million dollars a
year to come and do a private show. It's like
when they hire singers to sing at their kids bar
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mitzvah or something and pay them a million dollars to
sing three songs. That's what this always has been to me.
Nice corporate gig. Yeah, a nice corporate gig is what
it is, but I've never been into it. Now they've
built this belt, this fifty carrot diamond and emerald jeweled
bedazzled belt. I think the belt looks goofy. You like
it because is it too big? I thought you liked it.
(15:20):
It looks very video gamey, and I don't think we
should take video game stuff into real life. Sometimes I
think this is interesting. I would use you to say
that it's I don't like it. It looks digitized. To me.
It just looks fake.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Well, we haven't seen it dawn anyone yet, but like
the I think the big reason that wrestlers started wearing
the championship belts as they got bigger on their shoulders,
is because it's just so large that it covers your abs.
It kind of cuts into the top of your legs.
If you try to bend over, it cuts into like
right under your pecks. But here's the thing, this one's
double the length. I can't even fit it in the
(15:55):
screen where my hands are. It's so long that I
don't know how anyone's going to be able to wear.
You gotter be Drew McIntyre to win this thing, because
he's the north.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
To be long waisted to rock like Triple h was
long waisted, small chest like super long Tour, So Drew
McIntyre's all tours.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
So. But the thing about the Crown Jewel belt is
I do like that. It's it's gaudy, you know what
I'm saying. If this belt was made by Persian culture,
this was this is very like the all the diamonds,
all of the jewels, all the all the things, very gaudy.
But it looked I think it looks cool. I just
haven't seen it on anyone yet.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
I'm not a fan of the belt. And with that
we'll move on to Smack Sound Solo. Ska entered the
ring and he had the Samoan Werewolf Jacob Fatu. I
hate that they stole our werewolf thing. They didn't steal it,
but you know what I mean. Came out with the
tag team champs Tama and Tonga and listed his accomplishments
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and let everybody know that beatdowns we're going to continue
unless Roman Reigns appeared at Nights and he wants to
be acknowledged by the former former tribal chief. See I
called him for I didn't call him the original the
former tribal chief because he got beat down and instead
of him coming out, Jeff's favorite, Jay Uso came out instead,
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and instead of coming out and yeating it up with
the crowd, he pled with his brother, his baby brother.
Shouldn't have called him little brother. That made Solo mad,
by the way, and he shut down emotionally and he
wasn't going to receive whatever message you were trying to communicate.
That's just basic psychology. Jay should have treated him as
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an equal, but he said, you're dividing the family, and
Solo wasn't having it. He dismisses Jay. Jay's basically like, look,
I was cool this time, but if you don't listen
to me next time, it's not going to be cool.
This gets pieced out. Later in the show. We see
Roman Reigns and Jimmy backstage. They get there in an suv.
(17:56):
Jay Uso gets there. He's a little more chill with
his brother. Now he has a commerce with Roman. Roman
hits him with the yeat. Jay's like, now, I remember
that's the no yeat. So fuck you man, We're not cool.
I'm out of here. Pieced him out. Roman comes out
at the end of the show to supposedly acknowledge Solo.
We know he's not gonna we know he's not going
(18:17):
to do that, and instead kind of makes the say
a similar case that Jimmy made a little too similar
promo wise, but a similar case. He gets his ass
beat for it. He doesn't acknowledge Solo in the way
Solo won. Solo like laughs at him straight up. It's like,
I knew you wouldn't do it. So everybody get out here.
Kick this dude's ass asses get kicked. I'm summarizing this
(18:41):
story because we went long on Monday Night Raw, But this,
to me is how you keep the Bloodline story fresh.
Jeff wants unity, but to get unity, you have to
have conflict, right, So there can be eventual unity when
someone brings them together, like Robert Bruce from Braveheart unite
(19:02):
the clowns, and we need a uniter, and we believe
it's Roman. It could be someone else. Someone else could
come in late and be the reason that everyone gets united.
But Roman's still the cheap That's obviously how this story
has to end eventually. And I'm sure it's a WrestleMania match,
or it doesn't have to be, but it's big enough
to be one. But to me, this is how you
keep the story fresh without blowing it up and ruining
(19:25):
the thing or getting rid of it because it was
a little stale. It's you have these like moments where
it's calms before the storm, and then you have a storm.
If it's a storm all the time, we don't appreciate
the storm. Jeff, I like that. I like the way
you're worded that. How did you okay? Well? Did I
change your mind? Were you hating it or were you
agreeing with me? Though I actually like what's going on.
I like what they're doing with it.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
My overall thing is just an idea that I think
would be great, but doesn't mean I don't like what
they're doing. I think what they're doing is great, especially
like kind of what they hinted at too, when he
was like, we've been staying away from them, almost like
saying like, that's the.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Rough side of it, the family. Yeah, due the family reason.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
There's a reason we didn't associate with that side of
the family. And I think that's such a smart way
to do it. We all have the black sheeps in
our family, and they're really kind of hanging on to this.
Some of us might be the black sheeps of our family,
but that means we can identify with both sides of
this of like that's the uncle we don't talk to,
that's the brother who votes differently than me, that's the
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that's the aunt who got a duy, or like, you know,
whatever the reason is, Oh we we they went through
a hairy divorce and I didn't agree with blah blah blah,
whatever that thing is. They're they're really stirring that up,
and I like the way he hinted at that. Another
thing they did this week that I love is that
Roman Reigns is so famous and so successful and has
(20:47):
had such a great body of work that you like,
you know, sorry, let me get back that.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Let me put a pin into what I just said.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Okay, you know how the Rock had seventy five catchphrases,
you know, rudy, pooh, candy ass. Finally the rock has
come back. Do you smell what the rock is cooking?
Shut your mouth, know your role, like he had a
billion catchphrases. Now, going back to what I just said
about Roman reigns, he has had such a body of
work and so much things that he doesn't need every
(21:13):
little thing to be his for them to now give
the term acknowledge me to whoever the tribal chief is.
I think is Chef's kiss such a good idea that
Solo Socoa goes, I want you to acknowledge me. I'm
not your brother, Like I like that that's coming with
the necklace, so I kind of like that, Like, no,
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you don't have to. It's almost like the Persian god
from three hundred. He's like, all you need to do
is acknowledge. You just have to kneel, and that's all
Solo wanted, Like listen, don't call me your brother. I'm
your tribal chief now, and I want you to acknowledge me.
It's a very good like powerful you will acknowledge me,
and I think that that doesn't need to be romans.
(21:56):
I think that that needs to be whoever the tribal
chief is like, that's what they're doing, which is really awesome.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
I love it, but I love the storyline.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
I think what they're doing with it is is awesome
and it works, and it's also playing on both sides
of a family dynamic.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
A W STU. John Moxley, the real Werewolf, kicked off
the show.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
He'll be our white Werewolf, you know what I mean,
because we really like that he's the werewolf, but like
you know, we can there's there's a bloodline werewolf, and
then we got the a W Werewolf.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
He's the double dub, the white Werewolf, the triple dub. Shit.
I like him, all right, so cool now he does
man bad Guy John Moxley is the greatest John Moxley,
so convincing. Everybody loves John Moxley, and everybody hates John Moxley,
and everyone's afraid of John Moxley, Like he gets a
little bit of everything when he goes full bad guy.
Like kids, they're afraid of him because he tried to
(23:01):
murder Brian Danielson twice. And anybody else that he stabs
people with forks, like he's a scary wrestler. If you're
a little kid at a show, it's like he's actually
drawing blace. He's really stabbing people or himself, Like he
doesn't care. If you like bad guys, he's your dude,
Like he's the ultimate bad guy. He's if Han Solo
was the lead of Star Wars, that's your dude, Like
(23:25):
that's the guy you're pulling for. And then if you
want to hate him because you love the good guys,
he's so good and disrespectful towards your guy that you
hate him, like he's he's such a perfect bad guy.
As a good guy, he can't give you all those
things because he's still going to scare kids, because he's
still going to make people bleed.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
But is bad also, go ahead, I was gonna say
it's also I think a little more complex than that too.
He's such a good wrestler or sorry, he's such a
good storyteller that like he'll justify why he's doing what
he's doing, and and then you're kind of like, yeah,
well maybe he's right, Like he's kind of seducing me,
like the or something like I'm like, yeah, well, you
know he had this coming. Daniel Bryan's changed and it's
(24:05):
about time someone cut.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
So it's like he kind of it's about time he
just got the title JEF. Yeah, he kind of persuaded you. Yeah,
you know, you're right. This guy he needs to be
put in check. I love what Moxley's doing. Yeah, he's
the man. Everything he does, from what he does with
the belt, to his promos, to his to his entering stuff,
to the backstage segments like it's always good too entrance.
(24:28):
I think they he even got rid of wild thing
like now it's just like fuck you music, Like everything
is just different and badass and mean. Adam Cole's back, sir,
and it was story time with Uncle Adam babe. And
this was a little weird for me because of how
the MJF and Adam Cole's story ended, because Adam was
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the bad guy and Max was the good guy, and
so this was kind of this promo was more an
explanation of let's talk Freddy and people like Freddy off
the cliff where they're the of questions and back them
up and give them a reason why they don't need
to walk to the edge of the cliff they should
head back to town. And the reason why is because I
never trusted MJF ever and he sort of re established
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himself as the good guy and showed that look how
Max is now, That's who he's always been, that's who
he'll always be. And Max comes in on a jumbo
trun and reconfirms everything Adam said, so that the audience
then goes, yeah, Okay, we'll give you guys a break.
We'll let you call Mulligan on this and just have
another swing at it. And Max is like, yeah, if
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you I'm never going to fight you, and Adam's like,
you could run, baby, but you can't hide because I'm
Adam Cole Babay and the Cole crowd loves Adam, and
the whole crowd hates mjf except the hardcorese who are
going to love no matter what. And we'll get a
story out of them. The story that got that was
incomplete and that got terminated and blown up because of injuries,
which always sucks. So they get a second bite at
(25:56):
the apple to kind of finish this up. No title
on the line, unfortunately, but at least they'll get to
do some of the stuff they had planned for us.
I'll bet you the match is probably all of the
stuff they had planned for us, but they've certainly had
to alter and tweak the story. So I would say
give it a little time, as as the kids say,
let it, let it cook a little, let it simmer,
put it on low, don't burn your food. Low and slow, baby,
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that's the way to go. Or medium low and let
it cook a little bit. Even with your bacon started
a medium, but then when you flip it, cut it
to medium low, and I'm telling you it'll be crispyer
and you'll never burn it.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
I love that this started at as a wrestling metaphor
for Michael or for Adam cole and it turned into
actual cooking advice.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
This play just gives you everything. Bacon shouldn't bend, Jeff,
Bacon should not bend. And I'm just trying to help everyone.
What did you think, dude, about my bacon, about Adam,
about everything? I love that. I'll have to take care
of just your word on the cooking thing.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
I know nothing, but I will say with Adam Coleby,
I'm just so happy he's back, and I'm super pumped that,
like I Also, I feel like we've kind of remembered
not me and you, but just in general wrestling. There's
never been a bad Adam Colet chapter. Even last time
before he left, like he was doing that best friends
thing with MGF and it was so different and so great.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
They killed it.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
I just gotta trust that whatever he does this chapter
is gonna be awesome too. So I'm just happy he's back.
Love out of it.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
And am I tripping or does he kind of look
like Tom Cruise? I could see it, Yeah, think about
I'm telling you, dude, when he's in there with the
mic kind it's got a Tom Cruise think going on.
I'm just throwing it out for the people. Let us
know on our social if I'm tripping, but I don't.
I don't think I am. Jeff MVP has signed with
aw Nice, which means the Hurt business is on the way,
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and he's been pursuing Swerve Strickland aggressively and he's brought
in Shelton Benjamin Prince Nana has gotten some fire on
the mic talks some shit back to MVP, was like,
you all fight you right now. I used to be
a wrestler. I got boots in the back. I'll stratch
like it was the best probom I've ever seen. Nn
On due and it's because he was challenged by another
manager and that manager was MVP, and he responded to
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to Nane and he goes, that sounds like a complaint.
I don't deal with complaints. But here's the head of
my complaints department, Shelton fucking Benjamin and Shelton. Benjamin's like, yo,
you got a problem, and none. I was like, well,
hold on now, I don't didn't say that problem per se,
and it established Shelton as someone to be dealt with
right away. They had a promo in the ring where
sort of was like, yo, fuck you, I would never
sign with you now as my family. You tried to
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punk him. So just because of that, we're done, like done, done,
It's done. There's no Bobby Lashley yet though, no Bobby
Lashley yet. Now Shelton had a match against Leo Rush
just murdered the poor boy. No police were called. There
were witnesses everywhere, but when they got there they saw nothing.
They just saw an ass whipping. They made Shelton look great.
(28:49):
Where was this in ww oh? He was having to
make other people look great. That's why people forget about
back in the day, like when he was wrestling Sean
Michaels on Monday Night Raw and having of like the
greatest matches that I've ever seen in my life. Like
people forget about that. We don't people do? And it's
set up a match at Fright Night what do they
(29:10):
call it? Fright Night Dynamite on October thirtieth, the night
before Halloween, Shelton Benjamin versus Swerve Strickland. Jeff, I'm telling
you right now, this match is going to smoke any
other match on the card. These two dudes are going
to absolutely tear the house down. And the Hurt business
is coming. And you know, the Hurt Business is incomplete
(29:31):
because not all its members are there. You could say, well, Freddy,
Samoa Joe's there and they kind of did a thing
in TNA. You could say that, and maybe Samoa Joe
will be a part of this story. But I think
some shit's going to go down and we might see
the debut of Bobby Lashley in AW October thirtieth. Dude,
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is he is?
Speaker 3 (29:52):
He?
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Did he sign with AW? I mean that's what everyone's
assuming because MVP signed there and they're tight as right.
Great dude, he's like, I fucking love it, like straight up,
like I would. I'd lie in court for MVP. Would
I'd give him one hundred grand and a private jet
to a non extradition country if he needed it, Like,
(30:12):
I really respect the guy. He made me work for it.
I made him work for it. It wasn't just here's respect,
Oh yeah, here's some respect for you too. It was no,
here's an opportunity to earn respect, and here's one for
you as well, and both of us did that.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Yeah that's good to know. Yeah, because I do like
you a fricking so valuable even now. Like you know,
he's not exactly in his prime of wrestling age, but
I think he's in his prime of talking age.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
He's really good. Bro. Managers are making a comeback big time.
And let me tell you something. If I have my
own wrestling promotion, or I should say, when that's the
positive thinking way of looking at it, wrestling managers are
going to be heavily featured. I think they're way underserved.
I think they can do such a great job for
wrestlers who can't speak, who have maybe a language issue
or something like that. Like they can really really help.
(30:57):
Can't do it the way they did in the eighties.
You have to evolve, like every business and every art form.
But there's definitely room for managers and dudes like MVP.
Let us know, Jeff, how would you like to hear
a review of our show? Sir? I would love to
hear it, and it better be positive. Well, I can't.
I can't promise that you know the negative ones too.
(31:20):
This is from the Mystery Spot, so this might be mysterious.
I'll read it mysteriously from parts unknown. It's from George
The Animals Deal. The best wrestling podcast A whoa, whoa.
There's nothing bad about this one the best wrestling podcast
out there. Here we go as a middle aged woman.
(31:44):
Oh that's my fan base. Watch out as a middle
aged woman getting back into wrestling with my kids after
dropping off decades ago. Myself, I wanted extra content to
get up to speed. What sets this podcast apart from
other wrestling content is that Freddie and Jeff are interested
in the story and character development as much as the physicality.
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But Freddy's insight into story building and acting are genuinely
fascinating for fans who are interested in character building. We
know it's scripted. That's why we love it. Jeff Die
adds levity and a great sounding board, so don't sleep
on him either. Michael Twitter, give these boys more content
and a big fat raise. I'm not have thrown the
big fat raise part in there just at the end,
(32:27):
but everything else was word for word. Thank you very much,
Mystery Spot.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
We love you, love it. Thanks mister Spott. I didn't
have to good go A'll heal on you.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Yeah you didn't. Yeah, yeah, that's true. See, you guys
are scared. You're scared of Jeff. That's why you don't
write the mean ones.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Stay tuned, you guys. For Thursday show. We want to
give you, guys some of our favorite scary movies that
are coming out. I don't know if Jeff even likes
scary movies, so I hit him with all of mine
and if he hasn't seen him, then he'll see some
new ones. If he has, then he's gonna pitch you
guys some too, so enjoy that. We'll give you five
ten movies you can watch over the entire friggin week.
(33:03):
Hopefully I pick some that you haven't seen. Although wrestling
fans horror fans pretty much hold hands and go on
dates together. Anyway, See you guys Thursday on behalf of
Jeff I'm Freddy by. This has been a production of
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your favorite shows.
Bro managers are making a comeback big time. And let
me tell you something, if I have my own wrestling promotion,
or I should say win, that's the positive thinking way
of looking at it. Wrestling managers are going to be
heavily featured. I think they're way underserved. I think they
can do such a great job for wrestlers who can't speak.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
And now you're mad even introducing ghosts wrestling win for Ready,
Jef died and for Ready friends, tunor.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to a brand new episode of
Wrestling with Friends with me as Jeff Die. I'm Freddie Prinz.
Let's start the show. Jeff, Welcome back, sir. How was
your weekend? I saw photos. It looked like you had fun,
more fun than you thought you were gonna have.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
I am traveling all over the Giant but it's been great.
I'm getting to see this beautiful country. So the weather
is good everywhere. Have you noticed this, Well, that's that
lovely climate change. Man, It's improved conditions for everybody. It's incredible.
I was in New York, I was in Houston. Obviously,
I'm in LA now, but I was in DC. Everywhere
I'm going I was in Colorado. They're they're going, oh,
(01:17):
what a beautiful day. It's like everywhere has just been
beautiful weather.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
It's been great. See all you people complaining about the
aerosol deodorants and my old school car that puts gas
into the air and destroys the ozone and it's warming
the planet. All I did was improve Jeff's weekend. Sorry, yeah, also, yeah,
me apologize for that.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
They say, Oh, this is the hottest it's been in
New York.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
How do we know.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
We've only been keeping track of that for a few
hundred years. Maybe New York is famously that's its weather
thousands of years ago, maybe a million years ago, before
humans were here.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
How do we know? What do you know? Oh, we're
measuring a small little.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
I'd be like judging my body's health based on one hour.
My body's been around for forty years and I'm judging
it based on one hour.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
That's what we're doing to the earth. Well, it was
hot here fifty years ago. You're like, who cares? The
Earth does? What Earth does? All I know is warm,
and I like it because the cold sucks. If you
live somewhere cold, come move out here. It's gorgeous, all right,
jes lots of wrestling to get into. Rhea Ripley comes
from a place that's really hot. It's called Australia. I'll
be going there in about a month to do the
(02:26):
I not you did last summer sequel. Their winter or
our winter is their summer, so I don't even have
to experience winter this year, Jeff. People like me and
really Rhea Ripley are truly blessed because I get to
go and have summer all year long, and she gets
to get the biggest freaking pop in wrestling on the
active roster. I'm not saying if like a Legend comes back,
(02:47):
they wouldn't get a bigger pop. But every single week
when they're showing all the people coming into the building
and well and see him Punk, see them, Punk gets
the biggest But he's not full time Itt maybe he
is and they're just storylining him part time. But as
far as takes them Punk out of the picture, she
gets the biggest pop every single time she comes out there,
(03:08):
and this week was no different. And then she gets
to open the show. When she comes out, she looks awesome.
She looks like a bad ass, like she would really
beat you up. That's what Jeff and I love about her.
She looks like she actually kicks ass. The only way
Live Morgan can beaters through cheating with Dominic Mysterio or
rock Hel Rodriguez or a kendo stick. That's the only
way she went otherwise, Real will kill you, girl, kill you.
(03:32):
She comes out and she challenges Live and Raquel, and
who does she gets? She gets Tiffany Stratton, which was
odd and strange, and the crowd thought so as well,
and then she explained why it wasn't so odd and strange.
She said, look, Nia Jack sent me out here, and
she said you better stay out of her business. You
look punk ass bitch, or she's gonna kick your ass.
(03:52):
And Riel was like, yo, did you just call me
a punk ass bitch? I will kill your ass, and
they kind of get in each other's face. It wasn't
written exactly like that, and then all of a sudden,
Rackel Rodriguez and Live Morgan and Women's Champion jump in
the ring and they beat up on Tiffany Stratt and
to hit her with her own briefcase, which is just disrespectful,
and then Raquel helps Outlive because she's getting shit kicks
(04:13):
out of her by Ripley she wouldn't have, and that
they stand on top while Riha and poor Tiffy Stratton
got beat down and Live Morgan did her evil laugh
that everyone loves to hate, and that was the segment.
I don't care who Ria Ripley's fighting. I'm always going
to be rooting for Ria Ripley. I think she's the
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most accessible, like emotionally accessible wrestler on camera. I think
you can relate to her the way men related to
Bruce Willis in the Diehard franchise and they were like,
that's John McClain, and if I was in that situation,
that's what I would do too, damn it. And it's
this fantasy life that you can actually live. I think
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people see a lot of themselves in re maybe not
physically because she's unique and is one of a kind,
but in her attitude towards life, and they want to
say the things she says, they want to do the
things she does, and most most importantly, they want to
react to situations the way Rhea Ripley reacts to situations.
She's head first. It's like an old actor exercise, right,
(05:20):
like what's your obstacle? My obstacle or what's your goal?
My goal is to beat the bad guy? What's your obstacle?
His obstacle is his power is stronger than my power.
So what kind of character are you? How do you
deal with the obstacle? Are you he man? Do you
run straight through it? Are you sneaky with your brain?
(05:40):
Do you go around the obstacle? Are you a coward?
Are you Shaggy and Scooby? Do you run away from
the obstacle? Or are you Bruce Lee? Are you agile?
Do you literally and figuratively jump over the ops? How
do you deal with the obstacle? Ria Ripley goes straight
through the obstacle? She is the badass she is John McClain,
I love her so much. I don't care who she's
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working with. I think Liv Morgan's Mike work's gotten way
better from last year to this year. So I like
the story that they're telling. And they only give live wins.
If she cheats, she's never going to get something straight
on Riha. I like the way they protected Rhea's character.
But most importantly, or not most importantly, equally as important,
it's how you feel about Ria, because you were the
(06:21):
first one to talk about her on this podcast. Not me, sir,
it was you.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Well, I'm biased because she's got a great look, she's
got a she's got a great build, she has kind
of like the she's the total package for for wrestling,
especially female wrestling. She's got all the things you're looking for.
Remember in the NBA when you had you had a
big Shaquille O'Neil who could dunk the ball, and then
you had like a power forward that could that could
(06:46):
make the thing. Then you'd have like a kind of
a fiery three point shooter. If you needed the big three,
you could kick it out to the outside.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
And then a guy came along named Dirt Novitzky and
he was a seven footer who could also make threes.
And you're like, this is unusual, but he can dunk,
he can like he's a five tool guy. I feel
like that is exactly what we see with with Rhea Ripley.
She's got all the things you could put. She's dressed
like someone who is trying to prove to their parents
(07:12):
that they're not religious, Like I'm wearing the leather, I'm
not like you, I'm not in the church. And it's
like it works yeah, it feels she looks so bad
at work. Yeah, I like, I feel like things that
shouldn't work she can make work. And then she's just
(07:33):
so physical. I really believe she could beat up any
female wrestler if you don't count like Ronda Rousi or
like some of these MMA girls like SHANEA.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Basler. But she's so good. Everything she does is absolutely great.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
One thing I did want to point out before we
move on from this is I wish wwe would stop
dragging out the money in the bank briefcase. I feel
like titles we should have to wait for, but I
feel like the money in the bank stuff, like, let's
use it. Why do we have to drag it out
so long?
Speaker 1 (08:02):
They haven't been good with it so like, But if
they have a good story, then yeah, you can drag
it out. But that you have done multiple stories, not
just one. But I totally agree with you. They drag
it out almost every year and the story is not
motivated the way it should be. I totally agree with
you on that.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Maybe this here's a little pitch, maybe the if anyone
from WB listens to this, here's my idea. Once you
use the money in the bank, it becomes yours. So
like if it's used on you, you now have the money,
kind of like the twenty four to seven Championship, Like
maybe explain that I'm dumb. I don't understand. Well, you're
not dumb, it's just it might be a dumb idea.
(08:38):
Here's the thing. So, like let's say you're the champ
and I use the money in the bank on you
right now if I if I get the title and
I've given you, know, I use the money in the
bank briefcase to pin you. You now have the money
in the bank briefcase, like you now keep the Now
you have a chance to cash it in at any
time you want.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
The loser gets the case. Yeah, and if because you
can't get rewarded as the loser, it'd be awesome.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
It like I got screwed, but now I'm gonna screw
somebody because it's a it follows you.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Have to win it in the match because they would
take away the match and the match is so much fun.
The money in the bank match you don't like that,
that's the problem. You can't. You can't. You can't find
a new winner. No, I don't think you can give
the loser a reward. That's you're so anti giving everyone
a trophy, aren't you? Yes? Really, yeah, I mean even
the losing I think the losing team gets should get trophies.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
No, but they should get a nice handshake, which is
the same thing as yeah, you still get still played.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
They still played the game. I don't. Yeah, they gave
it to my to my kids even if they lost,
and I hated it. I was just like, oh, what
if we lost. They should know how that feels. It sucks.
It does suck. I'm older than you, so maybe that's fine.
(10:02):
All right, dude, bron freaking Breaker, the son of the
great Steiner jay Uso, son of Rakishi. These are generational dudes.
They got a generational beef coming up that I hope
takes us all the way to Netflix and they don't
end it before then. But I can't see. Nah, it's
(10:23):
only October. It's gonna end soon. Never mind, these dudes
are gonna have beef. Bron Breaker explained his side of
the story, and his side of the story was, Yo,
you didn't show me the same respect I showed you,
and because of that, I'm gonna frigging destroy you and
I'm gonna punish you, and nobody's ever gonna speak to
me that way again. And it's not even what you
(10:44):
said to me, it's what you didn't say. I told you, hey,
big ups to you, big respect. You beat me straight up.
You didn't say shit back, basically except yet, so so
fuck you man, like we're not We're not cool. And
that's why I speared you twenty seven times and why
I'm gonna bust your ass. I was going to move
on to bigger things, but no, dude, after that, I'm
beat your ass. And they wrote it differently than that.
(11:07):
I didn't. I didn't think it was as colorful as
it could be. But maybe the Brown Breaker characters not
as colorful as I want him to be. Maybe he's
more of a you know, the boulder that chases Indiana
Jones in the first movie, just moving straight ahead with
as little burbage as possible. But I think he could
handle it. So maybe that's why I want to I
want to see it. But I will say this, they're
(11:29):
shooting this stuff cooler now. When I worked there, this
would have just been eyes to camera, no room for anything.
But that. I don't know if he's doing that stylistically
or if there's Q cards there that are helping him out.
I know they've used Q cards in the past, but
either way, I still thought he was doing a good
job and he's growing. He's not the best promo in
the WWE yet, but considering he's been there for three days,
(11:52):
he's doing a really really good job. He's making me
want to watch them wrestle again and giving us a
reason why, which I think is super super important. How
did you feel, sir.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Yeah, I'm all in on bron Breaker. I just want
to see more, that's all. I feel like we're not
getting enough bron Breaker, especially after all the heat. Wait,
we use heat in wrestling as good Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Well he's heat can be a good thing. When you're
a bad guy, you want to get heat, you want
people to be mad at you. Well, in business, he
was getting. Yeah, heat and show business is a good
thing no matter what, because it means people. Yeah, I
see what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Yeah, I meant it in the way that we use it,
like heat and comedy means like everyone's talking about you.
So bron Breaker months ago, everyone was talking about him.
He was like literally the hottest thing to that. That
was like in the scene, so I guess I just
kind of feel like that's died a little, that momentum
died a little, So I wish we could see more
of him. I'd like them when you're about to build
(12:46):
in him. So I'm happy as long as I can
get some more bron Breaker before I make any opinions
about him.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
But I already like him. It would be cool if
they went back and forth and had like a cool rivalry.
I don't think they'll do that, but if they did
have a rivalry, could take them to January and then
you can have brown Breaker move on to the bigger
and better things that I think the company sees for him,
or at least the general public does. But yeah, he's
big and bad. I think i'd like to see less
(13:12):
j if I'm honest. More. I think Jay's the freaking man.
I think he's charisma. I think most men like him.
My wife digs him. I think women dig him. I
think he's a universal kind of guy. Man, you're not
feeling the yeat dude, are you? Team no Yee? Maybe
just this version of him. I'm not crazy about bro
(13:35):
We got no yea.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
The second he said said no lost me, he lost me,
right when he goes no yea and walks away.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
I was like, oh no, we got we got to
you and I have a problem. I don't know. If
I don't know, I'm real. I can be easily influenced.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
There's a thing, we'll see it. I'm weak to weak dude.
That's the same people could call me in a lot
of things. But you you give me two good reasons
to like a guy, and I go.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Okay, I like them. You know, by the way, the
cardigan's looking good, it's growing on me. Man, you rock
the cardigan to the show today. You look very mature,
or like a mature statesman. Not a statesman, they wouldn't
wear a cardigan. You look like a guy who like
like a beat poet, like Jack Kerouac. You just need
a hat, a cool head.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
No one's ever worn a cardigan and been stressed out
about something, you know, like, there's no cardigans. No one's
rocking a cardigan around going oh good, what's happening in
the Middle East? You know that this is like I
got my espresso, my kids are running around, my wife's happy,
and I drink it.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
You know, it feels very cardigany. Before we move on
to smack sound. I guess we can talk Crown Jewel.
The Crown Jewels super goofy. To me, it only exists
because they gave the WW like forty million dollars a
year to come and do a private show. It's like
when they hire singers to sing at their kids bar
(14:57):
mitzvah or something and pay them a million dollars to
sing three songs. That's what this always has been to me.
Nice corporate gig. Yeah, a nice corporate gig is what
it is, but I've never been into it. Now they've
built this belt, this fifty carrot diamond and emerald jeweled
bedazzled belt. I think the belt looks goofy. You like
it because is it too big? I thought you liked it.
(15:20):
It looks very video gamey, and I don't think we
should take video game stuff into real life. Sometimes I
think this is interesting. I would use you to say
that it's I don't like it. It looks digitized. To me.
It just looks fake.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Well, we haven't seen it dawn anyone yet, but like
the I think the big reason that wrestlers started wearing
the championship belts as they got bigger on their shoulders,
is because it's just so large that it covers your abs.
It kind of cuts into the top of your legs.
If you try to bend over, it cuts into like
right under your pecks. But here's the thing, this one's
double the length. I can't even fit it in the
(15:55):
screen where my hands are. It's so long that I
don't know how anyone's going to be able to wear.
You gotter be Drew McIntyre to win this thing, because
he's the north.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
To be long waisted to rock like Triple h was
long waisted, small chest like super long Tour, So Drew
McIntyre's all tours.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
So. But the thing about the Crown Jewel belt is
I do like that. It's it's gaudy, you know what
I'm saying. If this belt was made by Persian culture,
this was this is very like the all the diamonds,
all of the jewels, all the all the things, very gaudy.
But it looked I think it looks cool. I just
haven't seen it on anyone yet.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
I'm not a fan of the belt. And with that
we'll move on to Smack Sound Solo. Ska entered the
ring and he had the Samoan Werewolf Jacob Fatu. I
hate that they stole our werewolf thing. They didn't steal it,
but you know what I mean. Came out with the
tag team champs Tama and Tonga and listed his accomplishments
(16:49):
and let everybody know that beatdowns we're going to continue
unless Roman Reigns appeared at Nights and he wants to
be acknowledged by the former former tribal chief. See I
called him for I didn't call him the original the
former tribal chief because he got beat down and instead
of him coming out, Jeff's favorite, Jay Uso came out instead,
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and instead of coming out and yeating it up with
the crowd, he pled with his brother, his baby brother.
Shouldn't have called him little brother. That made Solo mad,
by the way, and he shut down emotionally and he
wasn't going to receive whatever message you were trying to communicate.
That's just basic psychology. Jay should have treated him as
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an equal, but he said, you're dividing the family, and
Solo wasn't having it. He dismisses Jay. Jay's basically like, look,
I was cool this time, but if you don't listen
to me next time, it's not going to be cool.
This gets pieced out. Later in the show. We see
Roman Reigns and Jimmy backstage. They get there in an suv.
(17:56):
Jay Uso gets there. He's a little more chill with
his brother. Now he has a commerce with Roman. Roman
hits him with the yeat. Jay's like, now, I remember
that's the no yeat. So fuck you man, We're not cool.
I'm out of here. Pieced him out. Roman comes out
at the end of the show to supposedly acknowledge Solo.
We know he's not gonna we know he's not going
(18:17):
to do that, and instead kind of makes the say
a similar case that Jimmy made a little too similar
promo wise, but a similar case. He gets his ass
beat for it. He doesn't acknowledge Solo in the way
Solo won. Solo like laughs at him straight up. It's like,
I knew you wouldn't do it. So everybody get out here.
Kick this dude's ass asses get kicked. I'm summarizing this
(18:41):
story because we went long on Monday Night Raw, But this,
to me is how you keep the Bloodline story fresh.
Jeff wants unity, but to get unity, you have to
have conflict, right, So there can be eventual unity when
someone brings them together, like Robert Bruce from Braveheart unite
(19:02):
the clowns, and we need a uniter, and we believe
it's Roman. It could be someone else. Someone else could
come in late and be the reason that everyone gets united.
But Roman's still the cheap That's obviously how this story
has to end eventually. And I'm sure it's a WrestleMania match,
or it doesn't have to be, but it's big enough
to be one. But to me, this is how you
keep the story fresh without blowing it up and ruining
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the thing or getting rid of it because it was
a little stale. It's you have these like moments where
it's calms before the storm, and then you have a storm.
If it's a storm all the time, we don't appreciate
the storm. Jeff, I like that. I like the way
you're worded that. How did you okay? Well? Did I
change your mind? Were you hating it or were you
agreeing with me? Though I actually like what's going on.
I like what they're doing with it.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
My overall thing is just an idea that I think
would be great, but doesn't mean I don't like what
they're doing. I think what they're doing is great, especially
like kind of what they hinted at too, when he
was like, we've been staying away from them, almost like
saying like, that's the.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Rough side of it, the family. Yeah, due the family reason.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
There's a reason we didn't associate with that side of
the family. And I think that's such a smart way
to do it. We all have the black sheeps in
our family, and they're really kind of hanging on to this.
Some of us might be the black sheeps of our family,
but that means we can identify with both sides of
this of like that's the uncle we don't talk to,
that's the brother who votes differently than me, that's the
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that's the aunt who got a duy, or like, you know,
whatever the reason is, Oh we we they went through
a hairy divorce and I didn't agree with blah blah blah,
whatever that thing is. They're they're really stirring that up,
and I like the way he hinted at that. Another
thing they did this week that I love is that
Roman Reigns is so famous and so successful and has
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had such a great body of work that you like,
you know, sorry, let me get back that.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Let me put a pin into what I just said.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Okay, you know how the Rock had seventy five catchphrases,
you know, rudy, pooh, candy ass. Finally the rock has
come back. Do you smell what the rock is cooking?
Shut your mouth, know your role, like he had a
billion catchphrases. Now, going back to what I just said
about Roman reigns, he has had such a body of
work and so much things that he doesn't need every
(21:13):
little thing to be his for them to now give
the term acknowledge me to whoever the tribal chief is.
I think is Chef's kiss such a good idea that
Solo Socoa goes, I want you to acknowledge me. I'm
not your brother, Like I like that that's coming with
the necklace, so I kind of like that, Like, no,
(21:36):
you don't have to. It's almost like the Persian god
from three hundred. He's like, all you need to do
is acknowledge. You just have to kneel, and that's all
Solo wanted, Like listen, don't call me your brother. I'm
your tribal chief now, and I want you to acknowledge me.
It's a very good like powerful you will acknowledge me,
and I think that that doesn't need to be romans.
(21:56):
I think that that needs to be whoever the tribal
chief is like, that's what they're doing, which is really awesome.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
I love it, but I love the storyline.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
I think what they're doing with it is is awesome
and it works, and it's also playing on both sides
of a family dynamic.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
A W STU. John Moxley, the real Werewolf, kicked off
the show.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
He'll be our white Werewolf, you know what I mean,
because we really like that he's the werewolf, but like
you know, we can there's there's a bloodline werewolf, and
then we got the a W Werewolf.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
He's the double dub, the white Werewolf, the triple dub. Shit.
I like him, all right, so cool now he does
man bad Guy John Moxley is the greatest John Moxley,
so convincing. Everybody loves John Moxley, and everybody hates John Moxley,
and everyone's afraid of John Moxley, Like he gets a
little bit of everything when he goes full bad guy.
Like kids, they're afraid of him because he tried to
(23:01):
murder Brian Danielson twice. And anybody else that he stabs
people with forks, like he's a scary wrestler. If you're
a little kid at a show, it's like he's actually
drawing blace. He's really stabbing people or himself, Like he
doesn't care. If you like bad guys, he's your dude,
Like he's the ultimate bad guy. He's if Han Solo
was the lead of Star Wars, that's your dude, Like
(23:25):
that's the guy you're pulling for. And then if you
want to hate him because you love the good guys,
he's so good and disrespectful towards your guy that you
hate him, like he's he's such a perfect bad guy.
As a good guy, he can't give you all those
things because he's still going to scare kids, because he's
still going to make people bleed.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
But is bad also, go ahead, I was gonna say
it's also I think a little more complex than that too.
He's such a good wrestler or sorry, he's such a
good storyteller that like he'll justify why he's doing what
he's doing, and and then you're kind of like, yeah,
well maybe he's right, Like he's kind of seducing me,
like the or something like I'm like, yeah, well, you
know he had this coming. Daniel Bryan's changed and it's
(24:05):
about time someone cut.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
So it's like he kind of it's about time he
just got the title JEF. Yeah, he kind of persuaded you. Yeah,
you know, you're right. This guy he needs to be
put in check. I love what Moxley's doing. Yeah, he's
the man. Everything he does, from what he does with
the belt, to his promos, to his to his entering stuff,
to the backstage segments like it's always good too entrance.
(24:28):
I think they he even got rid of wild thing
like now it's just like fuck you music, Like everything
is just different and badass and mean. Adam Cole's back, sir,
and it was story time with Uncle Adam babe. And
this was a little weird for me because of how
the MJF and Adam Cole's story ended, because Adam was
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the bad guy and Max was the good guy, and
so this was kind of this promo was more an
explanation of let's talk Freddy and people like Freddy off
the cliff where they're the of questions and back them
up and give them a reason why they don't need
to walk to the edge of the cliff they should
head back to town. And the reason why is because I
never trusted MJF ever and he sort of re established
(25:13):
himself as the good guy and showed that look how
Max is now, That's who he's always been, that's who
he'll always be. And Max comes in on a jumbo
trun and reconfirms everything Adam said, so that the audience
then goes, yeah, Okay, we'll give you guys a break.
We'll let you call Mulligan on this and just have
another swing at it. And Max is like, yeah, if
(25:35):
you I'm never going to fight you, and Adam's like,
you could run, baby, but you can't hide because I'm
Adam Cole Babay and the Cole crowd loves Adam, and
the whole crowd hates mjf except the hardcorese who are
going to love no matter what. And we'll get a
story out of them. The story that got that was
incomplete and that got terminated and blown up because of injuries,
which always sucks. So they get a second bite at
(25:56):
the apple to kind of finish this up. No title
on the line, unfortunately, but at least they'll get to
do some of the stuff they had planned for us.
I'll bet you the match is probably all of the
stuff they had planned for us, but they've certainly had
to alter and tweak the story. So I would say
give it a little time, as as the kids say,
let it, let it cook a little, let it simmer,
put it on low, don't burn your food. Low and slow, baby,
(26:18):
that's the way to go. Or medium low and let
it cook a little bit. Even with your bacon started
a medium, but then when you flip it, cut it
to medium low, and I'm telling you it'll be crispyer
and you'll never burn it.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
I love that this started at as a wrestling metaphor
for Michael or for Adam cole and it turned into
actual cooking advice.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
This play just gives you everything. Bacon shouldn't bend, Jeff,
Bacon should not bend. And I'm just trying to help everyone.
What did you think, dude, about my bacon, about Adam,
about everything? I love that. I'll have to take care
of just your word on the cooking thing.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
I know nothing, but I will say with Adam Coleby,
I'm just so happy he's back, and I'm super pumped that,
like I Also, I feel like we've kind of remembered
not me and you, but just in general wrestling. There's
never been a bad Adam Colet chapter. Even last time
before he left, like he was doing that best friends
thing with MGF and it was so different and so great.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
They killed it.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
I just gotta trust that whatever he does this chapter
is gonna be awesome too. So I'm just happy he's back.
Love out of it.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
And am I tripping or does he kind of look
like Tom Cruise? I could see it, Yeah, think about
I'm telling you, dude, when he's in there with the
mic kind it's got a Tom Cruise think going on.
I'm just throwing it out for the people. Let us
know on our social if I'm tripping, but I don't.
I don't think I am. Jeff MVP has signed with
aw Nice, which means the Hurt business is on the way,
(27:44):
and he's been pursuing Swerve Strickland aggressively and he's brought
in Shelton Benjamin Prince Nana has gotten some fire on
the mic talks some shit back to MVP, was like,
you all fight you right now. I used to be
a wrestler. I got boots in the back. I'll stratch
like it was the best probom I've ever seen. Nn
On due and it's because he was challenged by another
manager and that manager was MVP, and he responded to
(28:07):
to Nane and he goes, that sounds like a complaint.
I don't deal with complaints. But here's the head of
my complaints department, Shelton fucking Benjamin and Shelton. Benjamin's like, yo,
you got a problem, and none. I was like, well,
hold on now, I don't didn't say that problem per se,
and it established Shelton as someone to be dealt with
right away. They had a promo in the ring where
sort of was like, yo, fuck you, I would never
sign with you now as my family. You tried to
(28:28):
punk him. So just because of that, we're done, like done, done,
It's done. There's no Bobby Lashley yet though, no Bobby
Lashley yet. Now Shelton had a match against Leo Rush
just murdered the poor boy. No police were called. There
were witnesses everywhere, but when they got there they saw nothing.
They just saw an ass whipping. They made Shelton look great.
(28:49):
Where was this in ww oh? He was having to
make other people look great. That's why people forget about
back in the day, like when he was wrestling Sean
Michaels on Monday Night Raw and having of like the
greatest matches that I've ever seen in my life. Like
people forget about that. We don't people do? And it's
set up a match at Fright Night what do they
(29:10):
call it? Fright Night Dynamite on October thirtieth, the night
before Halloween, Shelton Benjamin versus Swerve Strickland. Jeff, I'm telling
you right now, this match is going to smoke any
other match on the card. These two dudes are going
to absolutely tear the house down. And the Hurt business
is coming. And you know, the Hurt Business is incomplete
(29:31):
because not all its members are there. You could say, well, Freddy,
Samoa Joe's there and they kind of did a thing
in TNA. You could say that, and maybe Samoa Joe
will be a part of this story. But I think
some shit's going to go down and we might see
the debut of Bobby Lashley in AW October thirtieth. Dude,
(29:51):
is he is?
Speaker 3 (29:52):
He?
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Did he sign with AW? I mean that's what everyone's
assuming because MVP signed there and they're tight as right.
Great dude, he's like, I fucking love it, like straight up,
like I would. I'd lie in court for MVP. Would
I'd give him one hundred grand and a private jet
to a non extradition country if he needed it, Like,
(30:12):
I really respect the guy. He made me work for it.
I made him work for it. It wasn't just here's respect,
Oh yeah, here's some respect for you too. It was no,
here's an opportunity to earn respect, and here's one for
you as well, and both of us did that.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Yeah that's good to know. Yeah, because I do like
you a fricking so valuable even now. Like you know,
he's not exactly in his prime of wrestling age, but
I think he's in his prime of talking age.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
He's really good. Bro. Managers are making a comeback big time.
And let me tell you something. If I have my
own wrestling promotion, or I should say, when that's the
positive thinking way of looking at it, wrestling managers are
going to be heavily featured. I think they're way underserved.
I think they can do such a great job for
wrestlers who can't speak, who have maybe a language issue
or something like that. Like they can really really help.
(30:57):
Can't do it the way they did in the eighties.
You have to evolve, like every business and every art form.
But there's definitely room for managers and dudes like MVP.
Let us know, Jeff, how would you like to hear
a review of our show? Sir? I would love to
hear it, and it better be positive. Well, I can't.
I can't promise that you know the negative ones too.
(31:20):
This is from the Mystery Spot, so this might be mysterious.
I'll read it mysteriously from parts unknown. It's from George
The Animals Deal. The best wrestling podcast A whoa, whoa.
There's nothing bad about this one the best wrestling podcast
out there. Here we go as a middle aged woman.
(31:44):
Oh that's my fan base. Watch out as a middle
aged woman getting back into wrestling with my kids after
dropping off decades ago. Myself, I wanted extra content to
get up to speed. What sets this podcast apart from
other wrestling content is that Freddie and Jeff are interested
in the story and character development as much as the physicality.
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But Freddy's insight into story building and acting are genuinely
fascinating for fans who are interested in character building. We
know it's scripted. That's why we love it. Jeff Die
adds levity and a great sounding board, so don't sleep
on him either. Michael Twitter, give these boys more content
and a big fat raise. I'm not have thrown the
big fat raise part in there just at the end,
(32:27):
but everything else was word for word. Thank you very much,
Mystery Spot.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
We love you, love it. Thanks mister Spott. I didn't
have to good go A'll heal on you.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Yeah you didn't. Yeah, yeah, that's true. See, you guys
are scared. You're scared of Jeff. That's why you don't
write the mean ones.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Stay tuned, you guys. For Thursday show. We want to
give you, guys some of our favorite scary movies that
are coming out. I don't know if Jeff even likes
scary movies, so I hit him with all of mine
and if he hasn't seen him, then he'll see some
new ones. If he has, then he's gonna pitch you
guys some too, so enjoy that. We'll give you five
ten movies you can watch over the entire friggin week.
(33:03):
Hopefully I pick some that you haven't seen. Although wrestling
fans horror fans pretty much hold hands and go on
dates together. Anyway, See you guys Thursday on behalf of
Jeff I'm Freddy by. This has been a production of
Iheart'smichael Toura podcast Network. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit
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