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Speaker 1 (00:02):
What's up, everybody?
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Welcome to Unsanctioned Thursdays, the extra episode that you get
every single week. Thank you for listening to Wrestling with Freddie,
Wrestling with Friends, Unsanctioned Thursdays, whatever you want to call it,
it's a wrestling podcast. We're gonna get into. Jeff asked
me a show business question in yesterday's episode, and so
I thought, maybe we talked a little bit about show business,
and if we get bored talking about it, then we can,
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you know, just talk more about wrestling. But I figured
i'd give you guys a rundown of my trip to
New York, the press, the business behind it.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Am I happy with it? Am I?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Not? All that good stuff? Jeff's here with us. Let's
start the show. Ladies and gentlemen, are you ready? Shuts up,
bouts that hit the fan? Welcome to Unsanctioned Thursdays are
(00:54):
Wrestling with Freddy.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Mister Jeff, what up?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (01:01):
First off, tell the people where you're gonna be this weekend.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
This week I'm gonna be in Boston, Massachusetts, and then
on that's Thursday, Friday, Saturday at Laft Boston, and then
on Sunday I'm going to Providence, Rhode Island. I've headlined
every state including Alaska and Hawaii except Rhode Island. It's
hard to find comedy in that small little space. And
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so I'm going to be checking off all fifty states
this Sunday.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
No Way.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Pretty cool, right, that's awesome? And you're ending with the
state that I have a lot of history with.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Oh really.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
One of my dearest friends is the former boxer Pete Manfredo,
the Pride of Providence. He was on Sylvester Stallone and
Sugar Ray Leonard show called The Contender.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
He was a world champion. After that show.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
He lost a tough fight against Joe Kalzagi when Kyzaki
was in his prime and Pete was too light for
that fight. But he's a dear, sweet friend of mine
and I love him to death. And if he's listening,
or if his family's listening, your.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Dad's the best. So much, Pete, You're the man.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
And then my uncle Ron de Blasio, who you may
have met over the years, because he's represented different stand
up comics from Richard Pryor to my dad to George Lopez.
He represents Fluffy. He's always loved stand up comedians he's
from there, and he used to work for this guy
named Ray Patriarca. And Ray Patriarcha was a mob boss.
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And he's the only mob boss that never was brought
in for questioning in the history of that like crime
area up there, from Boston to Providence to New York,
that whole area. He's the only one that got away
with it, got away with murder literally and figuratively for
his entire mob career, never even got brought in for questioning.
And my uncle used to work for him back when
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he was a teenager. He would run numbers for him
back in the day and do you know other fun stuff. Now,
he wasn't like a hit guy or anything like that.
He just did like petty crime stuff for him. But yeah,
he used to always tell me about Ray Patriarcha. And
so I did a convention there, or I was booked
to do a convention there, and I couldn't wait to
like see all the places, and then at the last
minute I had to work and I couldn't go. But yes,
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I've been there for wrestling shows because it's good wrestling town. Yeah,
and back when I worked there, and my uncle's from there,
and one of my dear sweet friends is from there.
So you're going to a great state with great people,
and that's crazy that it's gonna be all fifty freakins.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Well take most comics school. I've done all the states
except you know, Alaska and Florida or not sorry, Alaska
and Hawaii. That's like they always say those two. But
you know, this was the hardest one for me to
get was Rhode Island. They don't have like much going
on there, but it sounds like they have a lot
going on there.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I'm very excited. Good man, good, good, good. All right,
so let's talk a little bit. Let's talk a little
bit about business. Yeah, I went to New York City
to help promote this movie that I'm in called I
Know You did last Summer. It's a remake of the
one that we did in nineteen ninety seven and the
sequel we made a year later. There might be spoilers
in this, so if you haven't seen the movie and
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you plan on it, maybe this isn't the right episode
for you to listen to. Maybe you should go back
in the in the logs and listen to something different.
But we'll talk a little bit about my trip and
then we'll talk about the business that the movie did
and then get Jeff's thoughts and questions and all that too.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
So here we go, guys. I flew to New York.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
I had to do a little more press than I
thought I would because not everybody was available to uh
to carry, to spread the weight evenly, so to speak.
So I took a trip to New York to do
some serious XM radios. I got to do the Sam
Roberts show. I like not Sam. He's a good dude.
I've known him for a long time, so I got
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to do his show. I got to do the Morning
Mashup Show, which was fun. They were all super nice
and cool morning shows. Jeff has to do these when
he does comedy. I feel like is the strangest energy
of any interview you'll do, because no matter what time,
sometimes their pre tape, sometimes they're live, but they have
to project this feeling of we are awake and alert
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and it is gonna be a beautiful day. And if
you guys know me on this podcast, I'm much more like, hey, everybody,
what's going on?
Speaker 1 (05:06):
You know? That's just matter.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
It's more realistic, it's more real.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
So my energy never ever matches with them. But I
love when stand up comics do it because you see
this happen. And maybe I'm wrong, but this is just
what I see. You can tell me. Each comic makes
a choice when they're doing morning TV or morning radio,
and it's a choice where they either go, Okay, I'm
gonna play along and you know, just do this, or
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you know what, fuck it. It's not my audience, but
I'm getting my jokes in and I'm gonna laugh if
no one else does.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
I've done both of those multiple times, just based on
whatever mood I'm in.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
You know.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Sometimes I'll be like, yeah, let's just have let's just
be nice. But sometimes I'm this is so corny and
I hate this shit, and I'm just gonna like, I'm
gonna say naughty things.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
I'm going to make this.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Yeah, and all the producers in the back one it's
this guy kind of you know, like it's kind of
fun to be the arson is.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
At the fun Yeah. Man, I see it happen all
the time.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
I follow a lot of stand up comics on my
Instagram and they always post their Morning Showed things. And
I saw one. He's a guy that I worked with.
Actually he was a writer. His name is Craig Fitzsimmons,
and he was doing one and he was talking about
strip clubs in Las Vegas and they were all like
named after animals, and he got to the crazy Horse
and he goes, but it's weird because if you're drunk
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and you say it, it's much more crazy hole.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
And they all and they're all like no, no, no,
and he goes, what I didn't say it. You're just
I didn't I wasn't gonna finish it. You guys don't
have to jump all over me like that. And the
ownership that you guys can have over these rooms is
an ownership that I envy very much because you can
have them paralyzed in fear to where you now control
the entire setting and they have no say. They have
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no say because it is live with me. It's not
like that, like they have to ask questions about my kids,
my marriage, which I freaking hate. I get really uncomfortable
and shy, so I kind of like Astro Project to
Hawaii and then just sort of give them vanilla ice
cream answers until they ask a question that like snaps
me out of it, right, So.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
I did that.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
The TV ones are even harder and more uncomfortable because
people can see your face. They can see if you blush,
they can see if you're going to cry, and I
don't like people seeing all that stuff with me. I
have a private dude for the most part, since the
guy with a podcast. But I did Good Morning America
with two of the young men on the cast, Jonah
and Tyreek. These guys were so good in this movie.
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And it was Tyreek's first freaking time doing morning television
and he was like, Yo, are you guys nervous.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
You don't look nervous. And I was like, well, I
was like when I was young. Man.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
I was like, but I've done this a few times,
and he kind of laughed, and I was like, just
you know, this is an opportunity for you to shine,
so just do your thing. And sure, shit, man, his
story killed and the whole audience laughed and everybody was
like into it and he crushed and I just kind
of sat there and just tried to put them over,
so to speak, talk about how good they were.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
I mean, they really are.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
They were better actors at their age than I was
at that age. I don't I'm not trying to shit
on myself. I got better, but yeah, I just really
respect their work a lot. So I go out there.
The first night, I have dinner with my godsister. My godfather,
for those of you who don't know, is this guy
named Bob Wall. And Bob Wall was the guy that
trained with Bruce Lee when Bruce came to America. He
was already a black belt, but Bruce sought him out
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because he was a badass and he wanted him in
his movies. And so he was the guy with the
scar down his eye that Bruce kicks right in the
nutsack and then kicks him into a locker in another movie,
and Bruce is, like, you lose Carl Milla. That's my godfather,
is Carl Miller. And so his name was Bob Wall.
And I had dinner with his daughter and my god's
sister and we closed the restaurant down. They literally threw
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us out of the restaurant. We were just catching up.
He passed away last year and it's still kind of
like broke in our family's heart. And then the second dad,
I had dinner with one of my managers at a
great restaurant called Il Postino, which everyone should go to.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
They're not paying me to say this. It was just delicious.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
And talked about how I thought the movie was going
to do, and I said, you know, i'm hearing the
tracking is not so good. It's tough because you know,
we're right after Superman and right before Fantastic Four, which
is not a good release date. And the original was
released in October, near Halloween, and I always thought that
would have been the perfect spot for our movie as well.
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And I thought people would have even moved off our
date if we claimed an October spot, and.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
October, if you think about.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
It, is not that far away.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
And so I said, you know, I think i'd be
happy with like fifteen, like that would be a good number. Well,
we didn't get there. We almost got there, but we
didn't get there. We got to thirteen. But I did
everything I could. I've said this before. You know, an
actor is in charge in between the words action and
cut everything outside of that. Ain't nobody trying to hear
my opinion, And most of the time I shut up
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and don't get my opinion anyway, unless we're talking wrestling.
But so we were talking and I was like, yeah,
I'm nervous man, Like they're wanting to play with the
big boys. But they didn't spend big boy money on
this movie, like summer movies have budgets of one hundred
million or more. Like there's a rare occasion where it's
where it's smaller than that, like like Final Destination had fifty,
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but that wasn't considered a summer movie. It was earlier
in the summer, and it was just considered a straight up,
you know, extension of the horror franchise.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
They wouldn't call that like a summer movie. It just
did summer blockbuster freaking numbers.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Shout out to my girl who's in that movie, Anna,
and shout out to Devin Sawell, who helped create the
whole damn thing with an awesome performance in the first one.
We made ours for twenty four million, so the movie
will make its money back. But it's not gonna be
that expansion of the franchise that I hoped it was
gonna be. Jeff, it's I think it might be the
end of it, which is kind of a bummer for
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all the people that were involved, not for me so much,
because if you saw the movie, you know how it ends,
and you know that here's the spoiler part, my ass
ain't coming back. I took a hard Yeah, that's true, Squito.
It came back as a ghost. Find ghost ghost ready
will be in.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
The next So like you'd be like, ah, I liked
that character, that he's dead, he just comes back as
a ghost.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
You like, what was that a TV show? That was
a TV show. I only watch movies, dude, I don't say.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
I watched wrestling, UFC and movies and that's and that's
that's a lot of SI.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Yeah, that's a lot of that's enough.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
So yeah, so I was kinda I was kind of bummed,
but again only so much because, like I said, I
just didn't have You don't have to say when you're
an actor unless you're like Tom freaking Cruise, you know
what I mean, And I'm just not I don't have
the track record that dude had so has. So yeah,
so it was disappointed in that, but I still had
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fun making it. I'm really proud of what I got
to do. The director is a friend of mine. I
was proud that I got to be a part of
her vision and see it to the end. And I
just wish it would have performed better. Dude, You know
how it goes. Sometimes you just get it, you put
everything into it, and it just doesn't work out.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
It's just it. I don't know what the lesson is yet.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
I haven't had that much time with it, but there's
a lesson in there somewhere.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
I just haven't figured it out.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Yeah, it's expectations are tough. You know, you'll have something
that's great. I'm sure millions of people are gonna love
this movie, and it's just maybe it just wasn't what
you hoped it would have or could have been.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
But it's gonna be awesome. I'm sure people will love it.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
I hope so, man. I mean, the response has been good.
Like the influencers, young people have liked it. Old people
didn't click with it. But if you look at reviews,
old people shit on most horror films. But yeah, the
young people have dug it. It's still made good movie.
And hey, hey, don't ever forget this. We beat the
fucking Smurfs movie.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Yeah, take that, Rihanna, Fuck those Smurfs. Fuck those Smurfs.
Have you seen the Superman? You said you watch movies.
Superman came out. Did you watch it?
Speaker 2 (13:05):
I haven't yet. I was doing press for this movie NonStop. Dude,
I haven't even seen f one. That's how bad I
seen that. Either I had the junk at behind my
family went. My son loved it. My son doesn't give
a shit about superheroes unless they're from anime shows. Like
he he liked Batman, the animated series, the one in
the nineties, which is the greatest animated series ever besides
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like Bugs Bunny obviously, but other than that, like, he doesn't,
he does not care. He likes Rob Leifeld because he
makes the guys look super buff. He's a comic book
artist for those of you who don't know. He created
Deadpool and he's drawn some pictures for my son, and yes,
he lives a charmed life.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
And uh, is.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
That one of them's right there behind me? Up right there?
That's a Rob Liifeld right there. I stole that one.
That was my son's I ticket, But yeah, I don't
remember what we were talking about.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
About.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
But yeah, I hope I hope that Superman Superman. Oh yeah, no,
I haven't seen it yet. I saw the the Bingo
fight scene, but that's uh, I am not calling it that.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
That's what it was called.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
What it was said to me because he's like, hey,
twenty fours, twenty five. My buddy's like, yo, man, check
out this bingo fight scene. So I haven't seen that yet.
I'll see I will see it. I will see Fan
four and I will see F one. I will will
all three of those movies into my existence. But Jeff, baby,
we got a movie theater now in the house, so
I could always watch it here at the house.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Yeah, dude, still, let's watch it.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
The Wrestling Federation went on hold, but your boy bought
a nice house.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
So what else can I tell you guys about the movie.
It's really good. I'm really proud of it. I can
spoil it now. Like the whole reason I did the
movie was because I got to be the bad guy.
And I've always wanted I've always wanted to do that
since I was a little kid. I always wanted to
be the guy behind the mask. I grew up watching
like the old school universe horror movies like The were
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Wolf and Dracula, Frankenstein, Creature from the Black Lagoon. All
those were my favorite movies as a kid. And I
remember when I was a little boy, my mom told
me this story. I don't remember that's a lie. But
I would go down. She'd say, baby, it's nighttime and
our pie is what she would hear. And my dad
called me pie, it is bedtime pie. And so I
would go into all the dark places, like the bathroom
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and the closets in the hallway, and every time i'd
get in a dark place, I would put my hands
up and I'd go ah. And I'd go to the
next room ah, And my mom goes, what are you doing?
And I said, I'm trying to scare the monsters before
they scare me.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
And so right away she knew I was a weird kid, right.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
And so we would go to Universal Studios and do
like the tour where you get on the tram car
and they drive you around the back lots and you
can see like how the movies get made, which is
part of why I started getting into movies.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
It's so young.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
And when all the monsters would come out before the
trains would take off and like interact with the fans
and you could take pictures with him, and all the
kids would be like a run away and I would go.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Up and hug them. I would hug the monsters.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
So I've always loved horror movies and I always wanted
to be one of them.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
And I passed on this movie.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
I know you did. When they first mentioned it. I
didn't want to have anything to do with it. And
Jen Robinson, the director and writer, came to me and
said she's a friend of mine, and she goes, hey,
I'm the one doing the movie. Let me let me
pitch you. And when she was like, yo, you're going
to be the killer, I was like, just tell me why.
If I have a reason why, I can fucking do it.
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I just need why. And she spent like thirty minutes
pitching the reason why, and I got totally on board
and was like, yo, I get to be the man
in the mask. I don't get to wear a mask,
which sucks, you know. I don't get to be like
the creature in the Black Lagoon. But you sweat like
a motherfucker in those things. Anyways, so I dodged a bullet.
I heard the guy that was the Predator talk about it.
He's like, yo, I lost twenty five pounds and during
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production because I would sweat so much in the suit,
I was like, I don't need that all that heat.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
So it was a really great experience.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
I get to be shot with a harpoon and they
had like the tubes they squirt the blood out, and
I like went down my pants that I got covered in
fake blood and I had to throw.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Away my underwear. They were ruined. I didn't think that
far ahead.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
I was like, nah, I don't need to do that,
so I free balled it on the way home, and
which was the first time since like high school, and
uh yeah, man, it was a great experience. I love
I loved every minute of it. Man, it was. It
was really really fun, really really fun.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
I'm excited to see it. Thanks man, thank you.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Yeah, you can still go see I don't know how
long it'll get to stay in theaters once Van four
comes out, because studios pull movies so freaking quick now.
But if they do pull it before you can get
out there, it'll be on streaming. You'll be able to
be able to streaming.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
You know it's And if you ever go to Freddie's house,
which I don't imagine many of you will have the
luxury of going to Freddie's house, but you ever do,
or you ever see pictures from it. He has a
lot of masks. He's a big mask guy.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Yeah, this is true you but so are you.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
I do so I actually had to love like silly hats.
I love like I don't know, but it's like dressing
up as.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Fun Well wait a minute, wait, well no, that's different
than cosplay, because I was gonna say you hate cosplayers.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
I don't hate cosplay. I like when people cosplay at
these conventions stuff. I don't like when someone's cosplaying as
a wrestler, like when they're out there doing he's dressed
like Superman. I think some of the wrestlers did that.
Remember Glacier was just doing sub Zero or like that's
the guy that I liked for two of five Live.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Oh yeah, Mustafa Ali, Ustafa Ali.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
He would come out sometimes doing like a straight up
Iron Man thing, or like doing some sort of weird
Mortal Kombat stuff.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
So I like cosplay.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
I just don't like it when people are doing it
in wrestling.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
I was like, just be a wrestling character. There is
a girl, she's a friend of mine. Her name is
Alicia Marie and you guys should check her out on Instagram.
I know she Yeah, you've met her. So not only
is she one of the best cosplayers out there, like
and that's not me saying that she's my friend. She's
recognized as that. She makes all her own costumes. She
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doesn't have someone do it for her. She makes them.
She made a Predator costume.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
That looks so real.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
But it's like she's hot, right, so it's like the
hottest problem ever.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Yeah, but she.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Now I'm attracted to Predator, to the Predator. I was
about to say, like a great body. She's got like
beautiful eyes, you know, she has like really like crystal
lead like eyes, and then like this banging body and
then she's very pretty, and now I'm like, ah, now
I'm now I'm into Predator.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
I guess you.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Guys are taking pictures with her at Comic Con in
San Diego when her and I first met, and the
look and on their faces was so excited but conflicted
all at the time. They're exactly all right, you guys.
I hope you guys enjoyed today's episode. You got to
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uh see life with the curtain pulled back like the
like the Wizard of Oz. Right now, I'm just I'm
just Jeff Goldbloom. I'm not a giant, not a giant wizard.
And now you guys know all that good stuff, So
I hope you enjoyed it, and we'll see you guys
next week and every week on Wrestling with Breddie.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
I'm back of Jeff, I'm that guy, Freddy, but yeah,