December 11, 2025 • 9 mins
This week, I'm flying solo Jeff is off trying to get back home. Join me as I dive into John Cena's final match and the exciting tournament leading up to it. We'll also explore the thrilling showdown between Cody Rhodes and Oba Femi, and the rising star Sol Ruka's match against Bayley.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Ladies and gentlemen, are you ready? Shut us about to
hit the fan? Welcome to on sinction Thursdays are wrestling
with Freddy. Welcome back, Welcome back. It's wrestling with Freddy.
It's the Thursday show. No Jeff because he's flying. He's
(00:27):
flying Brian Pillman, and so we're recording solo. But I'm
coming to you live today from beautiful sunny California. If
you're stuck in this polar vortex and you're shoveling snow,
I feel you. I feel your pain. All I can
say is get your ass out of here. There's no snow.
(00:48):
I mean, yeah, there's earthquakes and fires. You know, when
it rains, everyone forgets how to drive because they've never
seen it before. But other than that, it's fantastic. You
can go hiking any day of the week, any day
of the year. The beaches are beautiful when they're not
covered in soot and ash, and they're much cleaner now
(01:09):
than they used to be. And the people are nice.
We're chill, we're friendly. If you're lost, we'll give you directions,
although who gets lost now? If you have an iPhone
right or a smartphone, I guess we don't all have iPhones, Freddy,
you're right, You're right anyway. I hope you guys had
a good week. I did played some Battle Tech. If
you don't know what Battle Tech is, it's my favorite game,
played it for a long time. We did a two
on two match. My team won again. You know why,
(01:33):
you damn right, you know why because we're the best. Anyway,
you know who else is the best? John Cena And
it's all about John Cena's last match in the WWE,
although Jeff would argue it's never their last match because
there's always they're always going to come back. It's like
a Barber Streiss and finale tour. It's the last tour
for the fourth time, for the last time. But I've
(01:56):
happened to believe John Cena. He's uh, well one, he
doesn't have to come back. He's set for life. A
lot of people keep working because they have to work.
Maybe they have too many ex wives and the divorce
payments are too big. There's a funny bit on Conan
O'Brien back in the day with John Cleees and what's
(02:17):
his face, Eric Idol, and they were talking about how
many wives John Clees had had and it was like
he was up to four or five or something like that,
and he was like, why do you think I keep working?
I have to. It's not because I like it. And
it was really funny. You should watch it on YouTube
or whatever you watch stuff on. I don't know what
young people watch, but anyway, I think this would be
John Cena's final final match and that alone is enough. Right,
(02:41):
we can end the show right now, but there'll be
a couple other matches. We don't have them all as
their book now, so to be a short episode, but
we'll give you what we got. So they built this
entire tournament called the Last Time Is Now and everyone
had to wrestle for the right to fight, not the
right to party, but the right to fight John Cena,
and uh, it was kind of cool. It was a
(03:01):
cool idea. John. It's probably gonna well, we'll get into
the pick. But the winner of the tournament was goonth
and he made La and I tap out and he's like, yo,
so you know you better watch that because that's what's
gonna happen to you. You're going to give up next
deal with it. He walks out to the ring, not
Mike Tyson esk esque because Mike Tyson would just come
(03:24):
out with the towel and no music. But he comes
out with just like as a as like an old
school boxer, an old school European boxer with just like
the fighter's robe, the dramatic music like Ivan Drago from
Rocky four is how he comes out. It's very like
it's just very European, right, so right away you're trained.
(03:45):
At least my generation was like Russia's evil, Germany's evil,
So right away you're like, I don't like this guy.
Modern new people don't know. Young people don't care as much.
They have their own people that they hate, and just
judge old people for the people they hate. But everybody
hates somebody. Baby and Gouther comes out. We're supposed to
(04:06):
hate him, but we kind of like him because he's
so badass in the ring and he gets to go
in there against Sina. This will be his final match.
The dude kind of gives you everything every time anyway,
his whole career. Like he's not a half asset kind
of guy. We didn't get along when I worked there,
but he's not a half assed kind of guy. And
(04:30):
he's been real like Frank and upfront in these interviews,
these exit interviews that he's been given that they aired
one on SmackDown where he talked about like not giving
up secrets, not helping people like that shit was real.
He was saying real stuff like you got to keep
that and protect it because you don't want to lose
your spot like that. That was real shit that he
was going through when I worked there. And to see
(04:51):
him be this open and honest even though he's in
character right, so it's not one hundred percent John, it's
it's still one hundred percent Jawn and Cena. But he's
given you a lot of truth behind it because you're
allowed to Now. Our producer says, Gunther's gonna win. That's
his pick. He says John Cena's going to lose his
(05:14):
final match. Could you imagine if he made John Cena
tap out and you submitted John Cena in his final match,
you made him give up. I don't know if it'll
go that far, but I do believe that he's going
to lose the match and Gunther will get the victory
on a pinfall. Sena will fight out of the submission,
(05:34):
for sure, he'll fight out. So we agree to agree
if Jeff were here, he go, I think Sena is
gonna win. So you got Jeff going for Sena. That
was my Jeff Die impression. Match number two Cody Rhoades
the undisputed WW champion versus Oba Fami, the NXT champion,
having beaten Ricky Saints. You Bestard, how could you beat
(05:54):
Ricky Saints? Oh? Because Ricky's getting called up probably to
smack Down or Monday Night Row because he's on the microphone. Anyway,
this it's interesting. I'll give it that. I kind of
know the finish and our our producer knows the finish too,
because I don't think anybody can win this match, right,
so it has to be a no decision and we'll
get into the details at the at the end of
(06:15):
discussing the match, but yeah, no one can win. Both
guys just have to look great. Cody's awesome at making
people look great. His brother Dustin was great at making
people look great. Dusty was great to make it's it's
a family trait to sell like crazy when you're when
you're a road So he'll make Obi look huge and
we'll see if oba Is is ready for for the
(06:37):
bigger stage when they pull guys up they lose the championship,
So Ricky's probably getting pulled up. And if you see
Oba lose, you know, to the next NXT guy, then
you'll know they're gonna pull Oba up. Well, this match
could have a lot to do with that, depending on
how well he looks. So he's wrestling for a lot.
It's not just it's not just for you guys. It's
not just a show. Uh, there's there's gonna be a
(06:59):
lot of pressure on a young man and uh and
we wish it. We wish him the best. That said,
our producer picks Drew McIntyre to interfere in the match
and get into no contest, And I think that's what
it's gonna be as well. I think that's that's fairly predictable.
So if you want extra details so you can win
extra money, that's the bet you take. H Jeff, what
(07:20):
do you think? I think Alba's gonna win? What broke?
I get out of here, Jeff, Dude, he's always picking
dumb shit. Picks are so bad, bro. All right, I
know you guys hear that Jeff Die impression and you're like,
is he in the room? But he's not it's just me,
it's just my voice. This is the final match that
we have. There'll be more. It's you know, it's not
(07:41):
a thirty minutes forty minute show, but we got Bailey
versus soul Ruca sol Ruka is another NXT talent that's
getting a lot of shine and you see a lot
of highlights on Instagram, at least that's where I see
a lot of her highlights. She does a really cool
finish this like jumping bouncing backflip uh that she lands
really hard. I don't know how many years she's going
(08:02):
to be able to do the finisher, but it's gonna
be awesome while she does. But a lot of frigging impact.
She's going to go up against Bailey. Bailey's there to
protect her, look out for her, make her look great,
kind of test her out, see where she's at, See
how she shines under the bright lights. They had a
backstage promo on SmackDown. There's a very simple thing. She
didn't have too much to do, and she did a
pretty good job with it. So they'll have an awesome
(08:25):
match and you know, we're gonna have all agreements down
the line. Here, Me and alex I don't think you
can let soul Ruka beat Bailey in this match. I
think she can look great. I think she can get
a lot of her moves off. Bailey can take all
of her moves. Bailey's strong enough to brace for any
helse like of her athletic stuff that she wants to do.
(08:48):
So yeah, I think Bailey's gonna win the match. But
I think she'll make so look great, and so does Alex. Jeff,
what do you think I'm gone for saults? You just
pick against us because you're contrarian, and everybody knows you're contrarian. Bro,
We know that. Just a gimmick, dude, So why don't
you stop? Anyway, A reminder, gentlemen and ladies, don't forget
(09:08):
we have our Ask our Federation episode. You can ask
questions on Speak Pipe Forward Slash what is it Wrestling
with Freddy that's the name of the show, or just
go on Instagram Wrestling with Freddie and type it in.
Type in your question and we'll get it on the
show and we'll read it on the air. Stay tuned.
(09:29):
We'll see what happens with Oba versus Cody. We'll see
how soul Ruka does Ruka and we'll talk to you
guys next week. Sorry for the short episode, but we
only got three matches to discuss because you know, we
record on Mondays. Should they don't book quick enough for us,
tell them to book faster. Peace,
Ladies and gentlemen, are you ready? Shut us about to
hit the fan? Welcome to on sinction Thursdays are wrestling
with Freddy. Welcome back, Welcome back. It's wrestling with Freddy.
It's the Thursday show. No Jeff because he's flying. He's
(00:27):
flying Brian Pillman, and so we're recording solo. But I'm
coming to you live today from beautiful sunny California. If
you're stuck in this polar vortex and you're shoveling snow,
I feel you. I feel your pain. All I can
say is get your ass out of here. There's no snow.
(00:48):
I mean, yeah, there's earthquakes and fires. You know, when
it rains, everyone forgets how to drive because they've never
seen it before. But other than that, it's fantastic. You
can go hiking any day of the week, any day
of the year. The beaches are beautiful when they're not
covered in soot and ash, and they're much cleaner now
(01:09):
than they used to be. And the people are nice.
We're chill, we're friendly. If you're lost, we'll give you directions,
although who gets lost now? If you have an iPhone
right or a smartphone, I guess we don't all have iPhones, Freddy,
you're right, You're right anyway. I hope you guys had
a good week. I did played some Battle Tech. If
you don't know what Battle Tech is, it's my favorite game,
played it for a long time. We did a two
on two match. My team won again. You know why,
(01:33):
you damn right, you know why because we're the best. Anyway,
you know who else is the best? John Cena And
it's all about John Cena's last match in the WWE,
although Jeff would argue it's never their last match because
there's always they're always going to come back. It's like
a Barber Streiss and finale tour. It's the last tour
for the fourth time, for the last time. But I've
(01:56):
happened to believe John Cena. He's uh, well one, he
doesn't have to come back. He's set for life. A
lot of people keep working because they have to work.
Maybe they have too many ex wives and the divorce
payments are too big. There's a funny bit on Conan
O'Brien back in the day with John Cleees and what's
(02:17):
his face, Eric Idol, and they were talking about how
many wives John Clees had had and it was like
he was up to four or five or something like that,
and he was like, why do you think I keep working?
I have to. It's not because I like it. And
it was really funny. You should watch it on YouTube
or whatever you watch stuff on. I don't know what
young people watch, but anyway, I think this would be
John Cena's final final match and that alone is enough. Right,
(02:41):
we can end the show right now, but there'll be
a couple other matches. We don't have them all as
their book now, so to be a short episode, but
we'll give you what we got. So they built this
entire tournament called the Last Time Is Now and everyone
had to wrestle for the right to fight, not the
right to party, but the right to fight John Cena,
and uh, it was kind of cool. It was a
(03:01):
cool idea. John. It's probably gonna well, we'll get into
the pick. But the winner of the tournament was goonth
and he made La and I tap out and he's like, yo,
so you know you better watch that because that's what's
gonna happen to you. You're going to give up next
deal with it. He walks out to the ring, not
Mike Tyson esk esque because Mike Tyson would just come
(03:24):
out with the towel and no music. But he comes
out with just like as a as like an old
school boxer, an old school European boxer with just like
the fighter's robe, the dramatic music like Ivan Drago from
Rocky four is how he comes out. It's very like
it's just very European, right, so right away you're trained.
(03:45):
At least my generation was like Russia's evil, Germany's evil,
So right away you're like, I don't like this guy.
Modern new people don't know. Young people don't care as much.
They have their own people that they hate, and just
judge old people for the people they hate. But everybody
hates somebody. Baby and Gouther comes out. We're supposed to
(04:06):
hate him, but we kind of like him because he's
so badass in the ring and he gets to go
in there against Sina. This will be his final match.
The dude kind of gives you everything every time anyway,
his whole career. Like he's not a half asset kind
of guy. We didn't get along when I worked there,
but he's not a half assed kind of guy. And
(04:30):
he's been real like Frank and upfront in these interviews,
these exit interviews that he's been given that they aired
one on SmackDown where he talked about like not giving
up secrets, not helping people like that shit was real.
He was saying real stuff like you got to keep
that and protect it because you don't want to lose
your spot like that. That was real shit that he
was going through when I worked there. And to see
(04:51):
him be this open and honest even though he's in
character right, so it's not one hundred percent John, it's
it's still one hundred percent Jawn and Cena. But he's
given you a lot of truth behind it because you're
allowed to Now. Our producer says, Gunther's gonna win. That's
his pick. He says John Cena's going to lose his
(05:14):
final match. Could you imagine if he made John Cena
tap out and you submitted John Cena in his final match,
you made him give up. I don't know if it'll
go that far, but I do believe that he's going
to lose the match and Gunther will get the victory
on a pinfall. Sena will fight out of the submission,
(05:34):
for sure, he'll fight out. So we agree to agree
if Jeff were here, he go, I think Sena is
gonna win. So you got Jeff going for Sena. That
was my Jeff Die impression. Match number two Cody Rhoades
the undisputed WW champion versus Oba Fami, the NXT champion,
having beaten Ricky Saints. You Bestard, how could you beat
(05:54):
Ricky Saints? Oh? Because Ricky's getting called up probably to
smack Down or Monday Night Row because he's on the microphone. Anyway,
this it's interesting. I'll give it that. I kind of
know the finish and our our producer knows the finish too,
because I don't think anybody can win this match, right,
so it has to be a no decision and we'll
get into the details at the at the end of
(06:15):
discussing the match, but yeah, no one can win. Both
guys just have to look great. Cody's awesome at making
people look great. His brother Dustin was great at making
people look great. Dusty was great to make it's it's
a family trait to sell like crazy when you're when
you're a road So he'll make Obi look huge and
we'll see if oba Is is ready for for the
(06:37):
bigger stage when they pull guys up they lose the championship,
So Ricky's probably getting pulled up. And if you see
Oba lose, you know, to the next NXT guy, then
you'll know they're gonna pull Oba up. Well, this match
could have a lot to do with that, depending on
how well he looks. So he's wrestling for a lot.
It's not just it's not just for you guys. It's
not just a show. Uh, there's there's gonna be a
(06:59):
lot of pressure on a young man and uh and
we wish it. We wish him the best. That said,
our producer picks Drew McIntyre to interfere in the match
and get into no contest, And I think that's what
it's gonna be as well. I think that's that's fairly predictable.
So if you want extra details so you can win
extra money, that's the bet you take. H Jeff, what
(07:20):
do you think? I think Alba's gonna win? What broke?
I get out of here, Jeff, Dude, he's always picking
dumb shit. Picks are so bad, bro. All right, I
know you guys hear that Jeff Die impression and you're like,
is he in the room? But he's not it's just me,
it's just my voice. This is the final match that
we have. There'll be more. It's you know, it's not
(07:41):
a thirty minutes forty minute show, but we got Bailey
versus soul Ruca sol Ruka is another NXT talent that's
getting a lot of shine and you see a lot
of highlights on Instagram, at least that's where I see
a lot of her highlights. She does a really cool
finish this like jumping bouncing backflip uh that she lands
really hard. I don't know how many years she's going
(08:02):
to be able to do the finisher, but it's gonna
be awesome while she does. But a lot of frigging impact.
She's going to go up against Bailey. Bailey's there to
protect her, look out for her, make her look great,
kind of test her out, see where she's at, See
how she shines under the bright lights. They had a
backstage promo on SmackDown. There's a very simple thing. She
didn't have too much to do, and she did a
pretty good job with it. So they'll have an awesome
(08:25):
match and you know, we're gonna have all agreements down
the line. Here, Me and alex I don't think you
can let soul Ruka beat Bailey in this match. I
think she can look great. I think she can get
a lot of her moves off. Bailey can take all
of her moves. Bailey's strong enough to brace for any
helse like of her athletic stuff that she wants to do.
(08:48):
So yeah, I think Bailey's gonna win the match. But
I think she'll make so look great, and so does Alex. Jeff,
what do you think I'm gone for saults? You just
pick against us because you're contrarian, and everybody knows you're contrarian. Bro,
We know that. Just a gimmick, dude, So why don't
you stop? Anyway, A reminder, gentlemen and ladies, don't forget
(09:08):
we have our Ask our Federation episode. You can ask
questions on Speak Pipe Forward Slash what is it Wrestling
with Freddy that's the name of the show, or just
go on Instagram Wrestling with Freddie and type it in.
Type in your question and we'll get it on the
show and we'll read it on the air. Stay tuned.
(09:29):
We'll see what happens with Oba versus Cody. We'll see
how soul Ruka does Ruka and we'll talk to you
guys next week. Sorry for the short episode, but we
only got three matches to discuss because you know, we
record on Mondays. Should they don't book quick enough for us,
tell them to book faster. Peace,
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