December 22, 2021 • 31 mins
I'm joined this week by WWE Hall of Famers, Brie and Nikki Garcia, formerly the Bella Twins. The Bella Twins broke barriers in the ring and out of the ring with their hit show, Total Divas. Through their hard work they helped establish a strong woman’s wrestling division that is still thriving today.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hi, everybody, Welcome back to Wrestling with Freddie. And now
we've had a couple of guests. These guests I've been
waiting for for quite some time. They've hung out with
my wife and my daughter more recently than me, so
my whole family knows and loves them. So let's start
the show. Welcome to Wrestling with Freddie. Now stepping up
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to the mic, the host of Wrestling with Freddie, Freddie
Prince June, Please welcome, Bree and Nikki Bella. Welcome to
the show, ladies. Oh hello, and thank you for having us, Freddy.
This is exciting. It's so crazy. This is gonna probably
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just feel more like we're talking than a podcast. But
it's so crazy to have met you when I met you,
and to now see what you've built as far as
who you guys are, what you've built with family, what's
you've built, what you've built with putting stuff back out
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there and sending love back out and it's I just
it's not like proud because I'm not your dad. I'm
just so thoroughly impressed by you two every step of
the way. Every time I hear something about y'all, I'm like, yeah,
of course, they did that, of course they did. And
that kind of jumps into right where I want to start,
which was when I was working there and you toour
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down in Florida in FCW and Michael Hayes really wanted
to get you guys up, and our ideas just kept
getting shot down, shot down and shot down again, no matter.
And I'm telling you, me and another writer, Angelo must
have pitched a dozen ideas in a month, and no
matter what we did, they wouldn't get over. And Freeburg goes,
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we're gonna do the Twin magic and that's how we're
gonna get them home. And I didn't even know what
that was, okay, so I was just like, all right,
whatever gets them on. And then I don't know if
you if y'all even know this, but the way we
were able to bring you up was when you leveraged
yourselves against the company and basically gave them a referendum.
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Bring us up or we walk and all the like.
So many people have tried to give me credit over
the years for the Bella Twins, and I'm always like,
y'all don't understand, Like these women knew their worth and
knew their value long long, long ago. And I don't
know if you guys even remember that moment, but I
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was just wondering if if you did, if that was
a plan, or where were your heads at when that happened. No.
So you know, it's interesting because we actually do give
you a lot of credit though, because for so when
we were down to FCW for so long, they kept
being like, well, we just don't know what to do
with twins, and we're kind of like, huh, it seems
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like it writes itself, right, But it was your ideas
that you kept pushing that I think made the company
a lot of the people at the time to see like, Okay,
there is something special. And the greatest thing is there
was no social media, so we could really hide the
fact that, like, and FCW didn't have television at the time,
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so really nobody knew Nicole and I like at all
that there was twins. I'm like, locally in Tampa, yeah,
they knew twins were wrestling down there, but in the
whole global WW world people didn't know. So it was
really the timing. But it was it wasn't Nikki as
much as me, because they kept saying they had no
idea I had at the time a boyfriend who was like,
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you gave up everything for wrestling, Like, at what time
do you start to give back to the people who
were there with you, Like, you know, you never see
your family, I'm here alone all the time, like and
all that. And I was like, that's a really good point.
So I was the one who pushed it. I was like, listen,
let us know. If you honestly don't think you told
us a diva search, you weren't looking for two wet
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to like, then try out again. We drove here, we're
you know, getting paid peanuts, Like, be honest, if you
have no idea what to do with twins, we can
go somewhere else. And I think it did that, Noah did.
I was in the room when it happened. Yeah, so
I know for a fact it was that. I mean,
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that's what they needed. They needed motivation. And Vince sees
that as people being assertive, right, whereas, like him, showbiz
in Hollywood, at least, if a woman is assertive, she's difficult, right.
If if a man is assertive, he's manic. I didn't
take shit off of anybody, And yeah, you know, I've
always sort of gravitated towards people like that, because that's
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who my mother. I was raised by a single mom,
so she just she had to be twice as strong.
It's why I connected with Sarah at such a at
such a young age, and a big reason why I
still have respect for her right because she's willing to
let someone talk shit and most of the time not
even say anything back, because she's like, look, I know
my worth and I know my value, and if you're
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going to try to shoot on that, I'm not going
to let you do it. And you guys did that
when I think any other talent NFCW didn't know they
had the leverage or didn't have the guts necessary to
say I'm willing to walk away. Now we're going to
fast forward a bunch because what you said, I think
lends itself to what's going on now. And whereas you
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guys try to give me a lot of credit, where
I try to give y'all a lot of credit is
the foundation that women's wrestling is on today. So you
two remember this better than anyone. When I was writing
segments for you guys, and y'all had matches, the women's
matches were five minutes long and two minutes of it
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were the entrances, so you had three minutes to tell
some kind of story in a wrestling match, and that
was as much as we got. And at pay per
views they would be slotted ten minutes, and a lot
of times those matches would be simply cut from the
whole pay per view, so from ten to zero. And
then the two of you sold a show to E
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called Total Divas, and this show started getting a lot
of traction and a lot of people started viewing it,
and all of a sudden, it was getting a higher
rating than some of what what WWE was putting out there.
And I watched and this was right after I left
the company, and I'm watching the matches. I'm like, man,
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this feels like a longer, like a longer match, but
I didn't time it. And then all of a sudden,
and I'll never forget this, you two were wrestling against
Natty and someone and there was a commercial break and
I literally was like I jumped off the couch and
Sarah was like, well, I was like, I've never I've
never seen a women get a commercial break in a
match before in my life. And I wasn't joking. I
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couldn't remember that happening. So I went back to the
company a second time and I talked to Vince a
lot about this, and that was the reason I know
this for a fact because he said the words. That
was the reason that the women's matches started getting more time.
And you guys can be super humbled about this if
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you want, or you could just be real the way
I'm being, But the foundation that women are wrestling on today,
and other people have tried to take a lot of
credit or maybe put more spotlight on themselves than they deserved,
like Ronda said some stuff that was weird to me,
where I was like, I don't I don't know if
you're is aware of your influence or not. But the
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reason women's wrestling is at where it's at today is
because of what YouTube built, and then the other women
that you brought into that show helped also build. But
that's why they're women headlining WrestleMania, That's why there was
an Iron Woman match and NXT, that's why all the
women are allowed to do so much more with their
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bodies as far as work, and it's and I'm not joking,
it's ninety percent because of the concrete that y'all laid
down before, and I just I don't know if you've
spoken about it before, but please please speak on it now. Well,
thank you, thank you, Freddie for that. You have no
idea how much that means, and especially coming from you
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because you know the industry so well inside and out.
And Brie and I it was, you know, when we
first signed with WWE, and when we made it to
TV finally we had a we redid a five year contracts,
so we were on TV for five years and our
five years was coming up, and I remember at that point,
Brie and I just did not like how women were
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treated at w t B the two minute matches, but
we are allowed to have ten minutes on live events,
but well, we're working hard on live events. We are
never allowed of showcase on TV, and our stories didn't
have depth and we just weren't treated right. And I
remember when our contract was coming up and we kept
wanting to talk about it and they'd be like, yeah, yeah,
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we need to get to that, we need to get
to that. So finally Brina got to the point and go,
let's not remind them and let's see what happens. So
it's about I think our contracts up after this one Raw, right,
It's like the next day, still no one talks us
and I'm the champion. This is when I beat Beth
Phoenix and I'm like, I wonder if anyone's gonna talk
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to me about my contract? And sure enough, the reason
why I dropped it to Leila out of nowhere at
Chicago because I was like, I'm not signing and they
were like, we'll give you these stories and I was like,
you couldn't even have a conversation with me. You couldn't
even like and I remember, we just had this conversation
and I was like, we're leaving and I'll just I
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remember I dropped it. They still thought Brina were going
to probably sign after the show or that week. They
kept calling and literally when we left Raw Chicago after
a championship, that was it like we left like our
contracts are up, but like we need to find a way.
How can we be heard and seeing and treated like
the men and just treated equally like Brin and I.
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That's what we really wanted for the women because Brie
and I think, you know, we do come at a
humble place because sharing a locker room with the women,
it wasn't like how can I be better than them?
Or how can I be this? It was like how
can we just empower each other and all fight for
each other? And I think that's why Brine and I
made a difference more than other people's. We were all
about everyone, like it wasn't about you know, And we
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were always like that with the match, like okay, who
are we getting over today? Like who's this story? Like
we never were about the girls to get our shit
in or any of those things. I think that's why
we're heels for so long and we probably have the
biggest losing record because we didn't care about putting people over.
We just wanted everything to be good and we wanted
people to be happy, and that locker room was becoming
so miserable because girls were working so or women, I
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should say, we're working so hard on live events and
then getting to Monday night Raw or Friday nights SmackDown
and just getting so disappointed and they were losing their will,
they were losing their hope, and I just remember Brining
are like, there needs to be a massive change here.
This is not good and being girls that came off
the soccer field and like we're glorified and like women
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empowerment was strong. We got title nine and we had
all these things going for us, and getting in the
wrestling ring, it was like, wait, we just had victory
over here and now like the women have a long
way to go here. Yeah, And you know the one
thing and it's what you say, like how Vince recognizes it.
We all know Vince is about putting asses in seats.
He cares about money, like buying the ticket and all this.
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And the one thing that Total Divas did is it
showed Vince that people are coming to the show to
see women. We started to get the and it was
more than just like men coming. It started to be
young girls and women buying tickets just to see the
Total Divas And you started and you know, he doesn't
count it by oh there's a sign or there's a sign.
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It was starting to get to the point where you
would see these saw the demo change, and I think
that's when Vince was like, we have to give them
more time because people are actually coming now. Right But
right before that, we had eleven months off before we
came back with Total Divas, and during that time it
was really hard, but we'd get a lot of calls
from the girls like you guys seem really happy, Like
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I think I want to take this step you did,
I'm not going to resign. And it was some top
women who were reaching out tests and we were like, look,
we missed it every week, but like something has to change.
And then that's when we got the call for Total Divas,
And I remember we had to talk about it for
two weeks because when we were like, do we want
our personal lives out there? Like we're pretty wild, I
don't know, and I had just started dating John and
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no one knew, so I was like, I don't think
I want that out there. It was like we had
just so many, so much to talk about. But what
really got us was like, but wait, we could show
the world women's wrestling, because that's like the core of
the show, and that's like what ended up making us
call them back and go, we're so in and we're
going to give you are all guys studs. You guys
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have said studs. So I want to talk go back
to something you said earlier, which was the women's locker
room and kind of the frame of mind everyone was in,
and I also want to you said something you guys
were looking out for one another a lot. And I've
always felt when you're building something, it does take a village. Right.
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They say to raise a child takes a village. When
anytime you're creating something that has value, that's worth something,
it takes more than just a single singular effort. It
takes a group effort. The people you work with can't
feel threatened by you. I spoke to a lot of
the female talent there when I worked there, and half
the conversations they were in tears. I'm not even joking.
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And I had hundreds. If I had one, half of
them were in tears. And I got it as as
an actor and knowing how hard the business is and
seeing how quick their stuff would get cut. Were you
guys working with Fit and Malenko back then? Who's yeah?
So I remember them because they would fight in the
production meetings every single week and tell Vince, I remember
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Fit specifically saying you gotta let her use that move,
she can do it, she uses it safely every single night,
and just really fighting. And it gave us on the
creative side a little bit of passion as well, because
we weren't just in there alone. But if you kind
of look at what's going on now that the house
has been built and the foundation's been built, all of
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a sudden, that we got to do this together, We
got to stick with this together. Those things fall apart.
You see it happen in unions, you see it happen
in private clubs, you see it happen all over the place.
And it's happening in women's wrestling right now. Right when
women's wrestling was about to skyrocket, and all of a sudden,
now it's hit this new, weird, shaky ground. And I'm
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not worried for the state of women's wrestling, because there's
always going to be ups and downs on a roller coaster.
But what are your all thoughts on women's wrestling right now?
And who do you love? Who do you love watching? Yeah? Yeah,
you know. It's interesting because I think the biggest fall
sometimes in the wrestling business is everyone compares each other
like they all think like they're supposed to be at
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the same level, the same type of experience in the ring.
To it just becomes like an ego fest, and it's
what kills so many of these storylines and bring sometimes
wrestling down. For me, it was like Nikki and I
always went there and be like, Okay, her strength is
she's great on the mic. Her strength is that she
can do big moves. Our strength is that we will
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get you over in such a huge way because we
know how to connect with the crowd. We Nicole and
I always thought like we were good at like playing
a certain character and going in there and getting the
story over. Like we always looked at everyone's strengths and said,
this is what it's going to set it on fire.
I feel like right now in wrestling, the comparison game
is crumbling right well, And I think too, it's we're
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seeing the women now they have rose to success, and
I think I remember this happening when I was new
at deputy. But when some of the girls were successful,
the other girls didn't want to help them out, or
the ones that were on the rise, the ones that
were super successful didn't want them to rise. And it's
weird what success can do to people. You could either
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have your success bringing other women and just break barriers
and destroy and make loud noise, or people don't want that.
And so like I look at it now and I'm like,
is this success that's destroying everyone? And like even the
Becky and Charlotte stuff. It was super entertaining to me.
But I'm like, they really don't like each other. I'm like,
this is crazy because they were best friends. We had
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brought I remember when they came in, and it's sad
to see it, but it also makes for great TV.
But I am kind of looking at the products and
I'm like, I don't what's it's missing. There's something missing.
I get that. And it is, like you said, even
though Charlotte and Becky stuff is real and you're feeling it,
which makes you blue to the TV. So then you
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do look at that and you think, Okay, that's great.
Like I'm happy they're finally giving Live a chance. They
should have gave Live a chance a year. Yeah, I
think it would have been better served a year ago
than it is right now. I think they've really ran
themselves into a ton of brick walls. I thought they
built up so much wonderful steam with Bianca bel Air
and then and started to establish her on a brand,
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and then once she's there, to take everything away and
then move her to another show so she can do
it all over again. I was just sitting there like
she could be a bono. She's one of my favorites.
And I gauge a lot of this off my daughter's interest.
She's twelve years old, and my daughter's over the moon
for her. My son, who's nine, he loves watching her
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because she says she looks tough. Dad, She looks tougher.
That's all he cares about, right, He just wants to
fight and drive fast cars, Like that's all he cares about.
Whereas Charlotte's like a wrestling nerd. She asked me a
lot of like inside questions and like sends videos to
wrestlers of her gymnastics to see because she's you know
what I mean, Like she's so her perspective is a
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bit warped, but she loves bel air. And I was
so disappointed, And I think Becky's great, but I was
so disappointed for them to not simply write a program
for the two of them and let and let Becky
work for it and get up there and give them
a couple shows to pull it off, instead of just well,
let's get it back. Now here we go and we're
starting over, and that stuff I think just puts the
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business backwards. All the forward progress they get, Like here's
two steps forward and then here's eight steps back, and
it's you're in a worst spot than you were before.
I agree. I mean I even look at the women's
tag division. What division they got rid of it? Right?
They got and it's mind blowing to me. They started
to get some steam, Like I started to see actually
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really good teams and I'm like, Okay, this is going
to be really good. It makes me sad that the
Bellas are gone. And then it was like all of
a sudden, they went through a thing it cuts, and
like I felt like every woman's tag team got cut,
like it was wild. Don't get me started on that,
or I'll go into my hole. Just sell the company already,
Soapox that's making me so crazy. They've never been more profitable,
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and they're just like yo, And look, there's the old
school mentality that you know, you get one match out
of four people and you're paying four people for a match.
But if those matches are developing steam and that steam
can start pushing a division forward, then people start paying
for that. But when there's no willingness, and this is
why I wish they never went public. But if they didn't,
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none of this would even be possible, but I always
kind of wish that there's an investment, like here's a
two year investment on the tag team division, and we
plan on losing money. We plan on losing money, and
after that they'll be established enough that we are betting
on ourselves enough to say, now they're going to start
earning us, and if they don't, then you start making
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those decisions. But when you're doing it arbitrarily, with no
emphasis on trying to build anything, You're just buying people
so that other people can't have them. It's just I
don't see how it helps you or anyone else out there.
It makes me nuts. Yeah, the guy said such a
good point, and I completely agree with that. I just
get I like, you know, I loved when you were there,
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when we first came up and you were writing. You
know what. One thing I loved that you did and
I missed so much at WWE is that when you
actually saw the pretapes, there'd be a story in the
pre tape, but you would see the most random people
together w two B superstars and maybe some people running
in the background going to another pretape that's going to
be happening later. And it was like, yeah, and I
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just remember being that period of time when you were there.
More superstars were actually watching the show because it was
so entertaining. But I even remember the fans beings entertained
because that like that's why reality shows are big, right,
everyone could see the behind the scenes. And I feel
that's the one thing I missed so much because I'm like,
our pre tapes don't really give us that, Like I
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see the same people together all the time, Like I
want to see this person, this person other I'd never
see before, and then I want to see this chaos
in the back because whoa, I'm really looking and you
feel like that's what's going on back there. Yeah, it's
missing all that, but that's we're so interesting me, Like
you were so good and most of the time would
catch a little heat for that. It was this other
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writer named Angelo, because we wouldn't ask permission for it,
but I wanted to try to get as many people
on TV as I could, right, like if mainly those
all that pre tape stuff, was like if they're not
in a match, what can I do? Like what's a
fun weird way? And I think the time you're referring
to was when we saw the Mariachi's just on the
fly and they weren't. They had nothing to do with
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the segment, but I was like, yo, I think it.
JBL was like always calling me Scooby doo, Hey, Scooby,
and I was like, We're just gonna do full Scooby
doo as a middle finger to JPL. So we literally did.
It was like Festus and his partner chasing them and
then they were chasing them back while you two had
like combo with Carlito and Primo, I think is what
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it was. Yeah. Yeah, we tried to do stuff like that,
but we would get clipped a lot. I would get
caught more than we got away with it, but I
always tried. It was so entertaining, so entertaining was so
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I missed that stuff. That's the fun stuff that you
know that wrestling has and like because the characters are
so amazing and it's so much fun to see them
every week and why we all love wrestling. Like there's
just this beauty to pro wrestling that another company gets
to do. We get to be a little campy, but
at the same time we can be serious, but it's
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okay to be corny, and I'll like have big characters,
but then some serious like we're allowed to be all that,
and sometimes I feel like we try so hard to
in our heads think we're competing with UFC, which is
so not o. We're our own special thing. You know.
It kills me a fine. I'll start a wrestling company
with you too, whatever tis in my arm. I actually
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really would do that. So I want to talk a
little bit about now and what's going on in your
lives now because although oh and my daughter wanted me
to tell you that she was really hoping Ardum went
all the way and she was super sad, but it ended.
And my son thinks Brian looks super tough also because
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he takes sick. He goes, he takes six chops to
the chest. Dad, he's nine years old. He definitely does
when he comes from I'm like, I definitely please let
me know what's going on in your lives now, the
family stuff, the work stuff, anything you guys want to
talk about, just so that I get to enjoy. So yeah,
well it's actually crazy because earlier I'm like I was
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Birdie was at school and I was one of the
moms volunteering, helping with arts and crafts and It's so
funny because I'm like, whoa, this is my life now.
But it's fun because, like, you know, some of the
other moms are always like, so you were a wrestler
and on reality TV, but gosh, we are just we're moms.
We're entrepreneurs. I mean, we have our own podcast too,
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which we love doing because we love to talk. Yeah,
and we live out here in Wine Country, which is
in the best. Yeah. We have just really shifted in
our lives. Yeah. And you know, it's crazy because when
we moved in app a year ago, Brie and I
E wasn't picking up Total Bellas and they wanted to
take Total Bellas somewhere else, and Brie and I it
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was like the first time we actually got like a
few months off of cameras for like the first time
in ears almost or nine. And we came out here
and we're like, whoa, this is where we want to
be the rest. Yes, And then all of a sudden
we're like, wait, we want to keep this private. We
cannot let cameras come here and ruin it. And so
that's when we made the decision, like, no more Total Bellas,
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Like you're not filming our families and especially when I
became a mom and Brie and seeing how Birdie was
and then just like getting to be so hands on
in the wine making industry. Like I we grew up
as farmer girls, Like so we're farmers at heart. Oh
my gosh, I'm gonna get I cannot wait. You had
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to see you guys Saturday night and a yard. So
one of the amazing restaurants here. It is a yeared experience.
It's pretty cool. And the best is we all show
up and they go, yeah, there's blankets in there, but
I mean you get a full on yeared experience. So
we were freezing, but it was like so amazing. We
had a lot to drink um. But there's like coolest
people in wine country were just it's like heaven'tly. Yeah,
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it's vibes are We have our own wine called Bonita
Bonita and so um. This Thursday, actually we're bottling up
our reserve chardonnay. Send send some to Serenie so we
can so we can share some love. Oh yeah, we
would love to send you some. It's so good and
yummy stuff. Yeah, and gosh, what else I mean I
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feel like that's I've been building a home out here
that's almost done. I mean it start off as a
remodel turned into a build and who does that in
the pandemic when ports close out? Yeah? We unfortunately we
did it too. So yeah, did you Okay, didn't you
think it was gonna be like some quick thing. I'm like,
no one else is. Yeah, I did, but that quickly,
that dream quickly died. Yeah. Um. One of my favorite
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experiences with my daughter was up in Wine Country or
close to it. We were staying at the Skywalker Ranch
over Christmas holiday because no one was there and so
we just had like access to the whole property minus staff, right,
And every single morning, my daughter and I would get
up and this is a big side quest that has
nothing to do with wrestling, but Napa is like so
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beautiful in northern California's is such a magical place. But
we would walk every morning out in this huge meadow
and it was so cold that the grass was frozen,
and I still remember the sound of it, like crunching
under our feet and her little crunches with her little
feet and my big clunky feet crunching through. And she
would always make me make up stories, right, and she goes, Dad,
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tell me, tell me a story. I go, well, what
do you want it to be about? She goes about
a samurai. I used to collect samurai sorts, and so
I told her I would had to make up a
story real quick, which I always liked doing. And it
was about this like samurai who had to protect the emperor,
and the emperor had a daughter but no son, and
the girls in Japan back then, they weren't allowed to
(27:54):
train with the katana blade. And she would always hide
in the forest and when the soldiers would train, she
would grab a stick and she would always like practice
their moves. And then one day she went to her
secret spot and instead of a stick, there was a
wooden sword there, and she like freaks out right and
she grabs the sword, and the story got a little
longer on each walk. And then the samurai the next
(28:16):
day was there and he says, hey, I'm going to
train you and teach you because I see how disciplined
you are. And she's training in secret with him, and
then her dad like later on, we were there for
a week, so the story got longer every time. Later on,
her poor dad dies and she has to go on
this like you know, quest to like find who killed
her father, and it was this whole thing. But when
anyone says nap, I literally go to that story. I
(28:38):
got chills on my arm right now, just because like
I need to be a movie, a children's book, a
children's book one day. Yeah, honestly, I'm like girls would
finish the story on this huge rock that was actually
in a Return of the Jedi when they did some
reshoots there, and we sat on the rock and as
the sun would get over the mountain, it would like
(29:00):
warm everything up and melt all the crunchy grass, and
then we would finally warm up, and then we'd go
get coffee for Sarah and bring herself little like coffee
in bed. She wasn't trying to do breakfast that early. Yeah. Yeah,
I love it up there. I'm so glad you guys
are up there. It's just peaceful, Yeah it is, and
you know it's full magical. Like even earlier this morning,
(29:21):
I was all my I would to workout, and the
fog was like right over the vineyards and you could
barely see the mountains, but it looked like I was
like on some set of like a spooky movie, but
in a Yeah, but it was it's just heavenly here.
I told Bree, it's like now I go into cities
and I kind of get anxiety and I'm like, I
can't ever do a city again. Like you're definitely a farm,
(29:43):
You're a farm growing heart then for sure. Well yeah,
I mean I smell manure and artum the other day
because they're fertilizing everything. And he's like, oh, what's that smm.
I'm like, oh, that's just maneuvers. It's great. I grew
up on how shit, So I'm like, this is this
is home. I like this, that's awesome. Well, you two
are amazing, and I'm like I said, it's not about
(30:05):
being proud. I'm just so thoroughly impressed by the two
of you and everything you've done. And you guys are
steamrollers when you have a goal in mind and nothing
can stop y'all, And I respect it so much. So
I appreciate you guys taking the time. Appreciate it very much.
And I got love for you. Thank you so much. Ready, Yes,
and y'all always love you. Yeah, And you're always a
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part of just our careers and lives because we really
one of the ones who believed and pushing we tell
everyone like it's I hear it all the time. People
will be like, I met the Bells and oh my gosh,
they love it. I'm like, Yo, that's that's them, not me.
They I just it was cool to be a part
of your All's career in the early goings. Where can
everybody reach you? Please let the people know what's going down. Yeah, so,
(30:49):
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Hi, everybody, Welcome back to Wrestling with Freddie. And now
we've had a couple of guests. These guests I've been
waiting for for quite some time. They've hung out with
my wife and my daughter more recently than me, so
my whole family knows and loves them. So let's start
the show. Welcome to Wrestling with Freddie. Now stepping up
(00:22):
to the mic, the host of Wrestling with Freddie, Freddie
Prince June, Please welcome, Bree and Nikki Bella. Welcome to
the show, ladies. Oh hello, and thank you for having us, Freddy.
This is exciting. It's so crazy. This is gonna probably
(00:43):
just feel more like we're talking than a podcast. But
it's so crazy to have met you when I met you,
and to now see what you've built as far as
who you guys are, what you've built with family, what's
you've built, what you've built with putting stuff back out
(01:03):
there and sending love back out and it's I just
it's not like proud because I'm not your dad. I'm
just so thoroughly impressed by you two every step of
the way. Every time I hear something about y'all, I'm like, yeah,
of course, they did that, of course they did. And
that kind of jumps into right where I want to start,
which was when I was working there and you toour
(01:26):
down in Florida in FCW and Michael Hayes really wanted
to get you guys up, and our ideas just kept
getting shot down, shot down and shot down again, no matter.
And I'm telling you, me and another writer, Angelo must
have pitched a dozen ideas in a month, and no
matter what we did, they wouldn't get over. And Freeburg goes,
(01:48):
we're gonna do the Twin magic and that's how we're
gonna get them home. And I didn't even know what
that was, okay, so I was just like, all right,
whatever gets them on. And then I don't know if
you if y'all even know this, but the way we
were able to bring you up was when you leveraged
yourselves against the company and basically gave them a referendum.
(02:11):
Bring us up or we walk and all the like.
So many people have tried to give me credit over
the years for the Bella Twins, and I'm always like,
y'all don't understand, Like these women knew their worth and
knew their value long long, long ago. And I don't
know if you guys even remember that moment, but I
(02:31):
was just wondering if if you did, if that was
a plan, or where were your heads at when that happened. No.
So you know, it's interesting because we actually do give
you a lot of credit though, because for so when
we were down to FCW for so long, they kept
being like, well, we just don't know what to do
with twins, and we're kind of like, huh, it seems
(02:52):
like it writes itself, right, But it was your ideas
that you kept pushing that I think made the company
a lot of the people at the time to see like, Okay,
there is something special. And the greatest thing is there
was no social media, so we could really hide the
fact that, like, and FCW didn't have television at the time,
(03:13):
so really nobody knew Nicole and I like at all
that there was twins. I'm like, locally in Tampa, yeah,
they knew twins were wrestling down there, but in the
whole global WW world people didn't know. So it was
really the timing. But it was it wasn't Nikki as
much as me, because they kept saying they had no
idea I had at the time a boyfriend who was like,
(03:36):
you gave up everything for wrestling, Like, at what time
do you start to give back to the people who
were there with you, Like, you know, you never see
your family, I'm here alone all the time, like and
all that. And I was like, that's a really good point.
So I was the one who pushed it. I was like, listen,
let us know. If you honestly don't think you told
us a diva search, you weren't looking for two wet
(04:00):
to like, then try out again. We drove here, we're
you know, getting paid peanuts, Like, be honest, if you
have no idea what to do with twins, we can
go somewhere else. And I think it did that, Noah did.
I was in the room when it happened. Yeah, so
I know for a fact it was that. I mean,
(04:20):
that's what they needed. They needed motivation. And Vince sees
that as people being assertive, right, whereas, like him, showbiz
in Hollywood, at least, if a woman is assertive, she's difficult, right.
If if a man is assertive, he's manic. I didn't
take shit off of anybody, And yeah, you know, I've
always sort of gravitated towards people like that, because that's
(04:42):
who my mother. I was raised by a single mom,
so she just she had to be twice as strong.
It's why I connected with Sarah at such a at
such a young age, and a big reason why I
still have respect for her right because she's willing to
let someone talk shit and most of the time not
even say anything back, because she's like, look, I know
my worth and I know my value, and if you're
(05:03):
going to try to shoot on that, I'm not going
to let you do it. And you guys did that
when I think any other talent NFCW didn't know they
had the leverage or didn't have the guts necessary to
say I'm willing to walk away. Now we're going to
fast forward a bunch because what you said, I think
lends itself to what's going on now. And whereas you
(05:25):
guys try to give me a lot of credit, where
I try to give y'all a lot of credit is
the foundation that women's wrestling is on today. So you
two remember this better than anyone. When I was writing
segments for you guys, and y'all had matches, the women's
matches were five minutes long and two minutes of it
(05:46):
were the entrances, so you had three minutes to tell
some kind of story in a wrestling match, and that
was as much as we got. And at pay per
views they would be slotted ten minutes, and a lot
of times those matches would be simply cut from the
whole pay per view, so from ten to zero. And
then the two of you sold a show to E
(06:12):
called Total Divas, and this show started getting a lot
of traction and a lot of people started viewing it,
and all of a sudden, it was getting a higher
rating than some of what what WWE was putting out there.
And I watched and this was right after I left
the company, and I'm watching the matches. I'm like, man,
(06:34):
this feels like a longer, like a longer match, but
I didn't time it. And then all of a sudden,
and I'll never forget this, you two were wrestling against
Natty and someone and there was a commercial break and
I literally was like I jumped off the couch and
Sarah was like, well, I was like, I've never I've
never seen a women get a commercial break in a
match before in my life. And I wasn't joking. I
(06:57):
couldn't remember that happening. So I went back to the
company a second time and I talked to Vince a
lot about this, and that was the reason I know
this for a fact because he said the words. That
was the reason that the women's matches started getting more time.
And you guys can be super humbled about this if
(07:17):
you want, or you could just be real the way
I'm being, But the foundation that women are wrestling on today,
and other people have tried to take a lot of
credit or maybe put more spotlight on themselves than they deserved,
like Ronda said some stuff that was weird to me,
where I was like, I don't I don't know if
you're is aware of your influence or not. But the
(07:38):
reason women's wrestling is at where it's at today is
because of what YouTube built, and then the other women
that you brought into that show helped also build. But
that's why they're women headlining WrestleMania, That's why there was
an Iron Woman match and NXT, that's why all the
women are allowed to do so much more with their
(08:00):
bodies as far as work, and it's and I'm not joking,
it's ninety percent because of the concrete that y'all laid
down before, and I just I don't know if you've
spoken about it before, but please please speak on it now. Well,
thank you, thank you, Freddie for that. You have no
idea how much that means, and especially coming from you
(08:21):
because you know the industry so well inside and out.
And Brie and I it was, you know, when we
first signed with WWE, and when we made it to
TV finally we had a we redid a five year contracts,
so we were on TV for five years and our
five years was coming up, and I remember at that point,
Brie and I just did not like how women were
(08:43):
treated at w t B the two minute matches, but
we are allowed to have ten minutes on live events,
but well, we're working hard on live events. We are
never allowed of showcase on TV, and our stories didn't
have depth and we just weren't treated right. And I
remember when our contract was coming up and we kept
wanting to talk about it and they'd be like, yeah, yeah,
(09:04):
we need to get to that, we need to get
to that. So finally Brina got to the point and go,
let's not remind them and let's see what happens. So
it's about I think our contracts up after this one Raw, right,
It's like the next day, still no one talks us
and I'm the champion. This is when I beat Beth
Phoenix and I'm like, I wonder if anyone's gonna talk
(09:25):
to me about my contract? And sure enough, the reason
why I dropped it to Leila out of nowhere at
Chicago because I was like, I'm not signing and they
were like, we'll give you these stories and I was like,
you couldn't even have a conversation with me. You couldn't
even like and I remember, we just had this conversation
and I was like, we're leaving and I'll just I
(09:46):
remember I dropped it. They still thought Brina were going
to probably sign after the show or that week. They
kept calling and literally when we left Raw Chicago after
a championship, that was it like we left like our
contracts are up, but like we need to find a way.
How can we be heard and seeing and treated like
the men and just treated equally like Brin and I.
(10:07):
That's what we really wanted for the women because Brie
and I think, you know, we do come at a
humble place because sharing a locker room with the women,
it wasn't like how can I be better than them?
Or how can I be this? It was like how
can we just empower each other and all fight for
each other? And I think that's why Brine and I
made a difference more than other people's. We were all
about everyone, like it wasn't about you know, And we
(10:30):
were always like that with the match, like okay, who
are we getting over today? Like who's this story? Like
we never were about the girls to get our shit
in or any of those things. I think that's why
we're heels for so long and we probably have the
biggest losing record because we didn't care about putting people over.
We just wanted everything to be good and we wanted
people to be happy, and that locker room was becoming
so miserable because girls were working so or women, I
(10:52):
should say, we're working so hard on live events and
then getting to Monday night Raw or Friday nights SmackDown
and just getting so disappointed and they were losing their will,
they were losing their hope, and I just remember Brining
are like, there needs to be a massive change here.
This is not good and being girls that came off
the soccer field and like we're glorified and like women
(11:13):
empowerment was strong. We got title nine and we had
all these things going for us, and getting in the
wrestling ring, it was like, wait, we just had victory
over here and now like the women have a long
way to go here. Yeah, And you know the one
thing and it's what you say, like how Vince recognizes it.
We all know Vince is about putting asses in seats.
He cares about money, like buying the ticket and all this.
(11:35):
And the one thing that Total Divas did is it
showed Vince that people are coming to the show to
see women. We started to get the and it was
more than just like men coming. It started to be
young girls and women buying tickets just to see the
Total Divas And you started and you know, he doesn't
count it by oh there's a sign or there's a sign.
(11:55):
It was starting to get to the point where you
would see these saw the demo change, and I think
that's when Vince was like, we have to give them
more time because people are actually coming now. Right But
right before that, we had eleven months off before we
came back with Total Divas, and during that time it
was really hard, but we'd get a lot of calls
from the girls like you guys seem really happy, Like
(12:17):
I think I want to take this step you did,
I'm not going to resign. And it was some top
women who were reaching out tests and we were like, look,
we missed it every week, but like something has to change.
And then that's when we got the call for Total Divas,
And I remember we had to talk about it for
two weeks because when we were like, do we want
our personal lives out there? Like we're pretty wild, I
don't know, and I had just started dating John and
(12:42):
no one knew, so I was like, I don't think
I want that out there. It was like we had
just so many, so much to talk about. But what
really got us was like, but wait, we could show
the world women's wrestling, because that's like the core of
the show, and that's like what ended up making us
call them back and go, we're so in and we're
going to give you are all guys studs. You guys
(13:13):
have said studs. So I want to talk go back
to something you said earlier, which was the women's locker
room and kind of the frame of mind everyone was in,
and I also want to you said something you guys
were looking out for one another a lot. And I've
always felt when you're building something, it does take a village. Right.
(13:36):
They say to raise a child takes a village. When
anytime you're creating something that has value, that's worth something,
it takes more than just a single singular effort. It
takes a group effort. The people you work with can't
feel threatened by you. I spoke to a lot of
the female talent there when I worked there, and half
the conversations they were in tears. I'm not even joking.
(13:57):
And I had hundreds. If I had one, half of
them were in tears. And I got it as as
an actor and knowing how hard the business is and
seeing how quick their stuff would get cut. Were you
guys working with Fit and Malenko back then? Who's yeah?
So I remember them because they would fight in the
production meetings every single week and tell Vince, I remember
(14:20):
Fit specifically saying you gotta let her use that move,
she can do it, she uses it safely every single night,
and just really fighting. And it gave us on the
creative side a little bit of passion as well, because
we weren't just in there alone. But if you kind
of look at what's going on now that the house
has been built and the foundation's been built, all of
(14:42):
a sudden, that we got to do this together, We
got to stick with this together. Those things fall apart.
You see it happen in unions, you see it happen
in private clubs, you see it happen all over the place.
And it's happening in women's wrestling right now. Right when
women's wrestling was about to skyrocket, and all of a sudden,
now it's hit this new, weird, shaky ground. And I'm
(15:04):
not worried for the state of women's wrestling, because there's
always going to be ups and downs on a roller coaster.
But what are your all thoughts on women's wrestling right now?
And who do you love? Who do you love watching? Yeah? Yeah,
you know. It's interesting because I think the biggest fall
sometimes in the wrestling business is everyone compares each other
like they all think like they're supposed to be at
(15:25):
the same level, the same type of experience in the ring.
To it just becomes like an ego fest, and it's
what kills so many of these storylines and bring sometimes
wrestling down. For me, it was like Nikki and I
always went there and be like, Okay, her strength is
she's great on the mic. Her strength is that she
can do big moves. Our strength is that we will
(15:47):
get you over in such a huge way because we
know how to connect with the crowd. We Nicole and
I always thought like we were good at like playing
a certain character and going in there and getting the
story over. Like we always looked at everyone's strengths and said,
this is what it's going to set it on fire.
I feel like right now in wrestling, the comparison game
is crumbling right well, And I think too, it's we're
(16:08):
seeing the women now they have rose to success, and
I think I remember this happening when I was new
at deputy. But when some of the girls were successful,
the other girls didn't want to help them out, or
the ones that were on the rise, the ones that
were super successful didn't want them to rise. And it's
weird what success can do to people. You could either
(16:29):
have your success bringing other women and just break barriers
and destroy and make loud noise, or people don't want that.
And so like I look at it now and I'm like,
is this success that's destroying everyone? And like even the
Becky and Charlotte stuff. It was super entertaining to me.
But I'm like, they really don't like each other. I'm like,
this is crazy because they were best friends. We had
(16:51):
brought I remember when they came in, and it's sad
to see it, but it also makes for great TV.
But I am kind of looking at the products and
I'm like, I don't what's it's missing. There's something missing.
I get that. And it is, like you said, even
though Charlotte and Becky stuff is real and you're feeling it,
which makes you blue to the TV. So then you
(17:12):
do look at that and you think, Okay, that's great.
Like I'm happy they're finally giving Live a chance. They
should have gave Live a chance a year. Yeah, I
think it would have been better served a year ago
than it is right now. I think they've really ran
themselves into a ton of brick walls. I thought they
built up so much wonderful steam with Bianca bel Air
and then and started to establish her on a brand,
(17:34):
and then once she's there, to take everything away and
then move her to another show so she can do
it all over again. I was just sitting there like
she could be a bono. She's one of my favorites.
And I gauge a lot of this off my daughter's interest.
She's twelve years old, and my daughter's over the moon
for her. My son, who's nine, he loves watching her
(17:56):
because she says she looks tough. Dad, She looks tougher.
That's all he cares about, right, He just wants to
fight and drive fast cars, Like that's all he cares about.
Whereas Charlotte's like a wrestling nerd. She asked me a
lot of like inside questions and like sends videos to
wrestlers of her gymnastics to see because she's you know
what I mean, Like she's so her perspective is a
(18:16):
bit warped, but she loves bel air. And I was
so disappointed, And I think Becky's great, but I was
so disappointed for them to not simply write a program
for the two of them and let and let Becky
work for it and get up there and give them
a couple shows to pull it off, instead of just well,
let's get it back. Now here we go and we're
starting over, and that stuff I think just puts the
(18:39):
business backwards. All the forward progress they get, Like here's
two steps forward and then here's eight steps back, and
it's you're in a worst spot than you were before.
I agree. I mean I even look at the women's
tag division. What division they got rid of it? Right?
They got and it's mind blowing to me. They started
to get some steam, Like I started to see actually
(19:00):
really good teams and I'm like, Okay, this is going
to be really good. It makes me sad that the
Bellas are gone. And then it was like all of
a sudden, they went through a thing it cuts, and
like I felt like every woman's tag team got cut,
like it was wild. Don't get me started on that,
or I'll go into my hole. Just sell the company already,
Soapox that's making me so crazy. They've never been more profitable,
(19:23):
and they're just like yo, And look, there's the old
school mentality that you know, you get one match out
of four people and you're paying four people for a match.
But if those matches are developing steam and that steam
can start pushing a division forward, then people start paying
for that. But when there's no willingness, and this is
why I wish they never went public. But if they didn't,
(19:46):
none of this would even be possible, but I always
kind of wish that there's an investment, like here's a
two year investment on the tag team division, and we
plan on losing money. We plan on losing money, and
after that they'll be established enough that we are betting
on ourselves enough to say, now they're going to start
earning us, and if they don't, then you start making
(20:06):
those decisions. But when you're doing it arbitrarily, with no
emphasis on trying to build anything, You're just buying people
so that other people can't have them. It's just I
don't see how it helps you or anyone else out there.
It makes me nuts. Yeah, the guy said such a
good point, and I completely agree with that. I just
get I like, you know, I loved when you were there,
(20:28):
when we first came up and you were writing. You
know what. One thing I loved that you did and
I missed so much at WWE is that when you
actually saw the pretapes, there'd be a story in the
pre tape, but you would see the most random people
together w two B superstars and maybe some people running
in the background going to another pretape that's going to
be happening later. And it was like, yeah, and I
(20:51):
just remember being that period of time when you were there.
More superstars were actually watching the show because it was
so entertaining. But I even remember the fans beings entertained
because that like that's why reality shows are big, right,
everyone could see the behind the scenes. And I feel
that's the one thing I missed so much because I'm like,
our pre tapes don't really give us that, Like I
(21:12):
see the same people together all the time, Like I
want to see this person, this person other I'd never
see before, and then I want to see this chaos
in the back because whoa, I'm really looking and you
feel like that's what's going on back there. Yeah, it's
missing all that, but that's we're so interesting me, Like
you were so good and most of the time would
catch a little heat for that. It was this other
(21:33):
writer named Angelo, because we wouldn't ask permission for it,
but I wanted to try to get as many people
on TV as I could, right, like if mainly those
all that pre tape stuff, was like if they're not
in a match, what can I do? Like what's a
fun weird way? And I think the time you're referring
to was when we saw the Mariachi's just on the
fly and they weren't. They had nothing to do with
(21:56):
the segment, but I was like, yo, I think it.
JBL was like always calling me Scooby doo, Hey, Scooby,
and I was like, We're just gonna do full Scooby
doo as a middle finger to JPL. So we literally did.
It was like Festus and his partner chasing them and
then they were chasing them back while you two had
like combo with Carlito and Primo, I think is what
(22:19):
it was. Yeah. Yeah, we tried to do stuff like that,
but we would get clipped a lot. I would get
caught more than we got away with it, but I
always tried. It was so entertaining, so entertaining was so
(22:40):
I missed that stuff. That's the fun stuff that you
know that wrestling has and like because the characters are
so amazing and it's so much fun to see them
every week and why we all love wrestling. Like there's
just this beauty to pro wrestling that another company gets
to do. We get to be a little campy, but
at the same time we can be serious, but it's
(23:00):
okay to be corny, and I'll like have big characters,
but then some serious like we're allowed to be all that,
and sometimes I feel like we try so hard to
in our heads think we're competing with UFC, which is
so not o. We're our own special thing. You know.
It kills me a fine. I'll start a wrestling company
with you too, whatever tis in my arm. I actually
(23:26):
really would do that. So I want to talk a
little bit about now and what's going on in your
lives now because although oh and my daughter wanted me
to tell you that she was really hoping Ardum went
all the way and she was super sad, but it ended.
And my son thinks Brian looks super tough also because
(23:48):
he takes sick. He goes, he takes six chops to
the chest. Dad, he's nine years old. He definitely does
when he comes from I'm like, I definitely please let
me know what's going on in your lives now, the
family stuff, the work stuff, anything you guys want to
talk about, just so that I get to enjoy. So yeah,
well it's actually crazy because earlier I'm like I was
(24:11):
Birdie was at school and I was one of the
moms volunteering, helping with arts and crafts and It's so
funny because I'm like, whoa, this is my life now.
But it's fun because, like, you know, some of the
other moms are always like, so you were a wrestler
and on reality TV, but gosh, we are just we're moms.
We're entrepreneurs. I mean, we have our own podcast too,
(24:32):
which we love doing because we love to talk. Yeah,
and we live out here in Wine Country, which is
in the best. Yeah. We have just really shifted in
our lives. Yeah. And you know, it's crazy because when
we moved in app a year ago, Brie and I
E wasn't picking up Total Bellas and they wanted to
take Total Bellas somewhere else, and Brie and I it
(24:55):
was like the first time we actually got like a
few months off of cameras for like the first time
in ears almost or nine. And we came out here
and we're like, whoa, this is where we want to
be the rest. Yes, And then all of a sudden
we're like, wait, we want to keep this private. We
cannot let cameras come here and ruin it. And so
that's when we made the decision, like, no more Total Bellas,
(25:16):
Like you're not filming our families and especially when I
became a mom and Brie and seeing how Birdie was
and then just like getting to be so hands on
in the wine making industry. Like I we grew up
as farmer girls, Like so we're farmers at heart. Oh
my gosh, I'm gonna get I cannot wait. You had
(25:39):
to see you guys Saturday night and a yard. So
one of the amazing restaurants here. It is a yeared experience.
It's pretty cool. And the best is we all show
up and they go, yeah, there's blankets in there, but
I mean you get a full on yeared experience. So
we were freezing, but it was like so amazing. We
had a lot to drink um. But there's like coolest
people in wine country were just it's like heaven'tly. Yeah,
(26:02):
it's vibes are We have our own wine called Bonita
Bonita and so um. This Thursday, actually we're bottling up
our reserve chardonnay. Send send some to Serenie so we
can so we can share some love. Oh yeah, we
would love to send you some. It's so good and
yummy stuff. Yeah, and gosh, what else I mean I
(26:23):
feel like that's I've been building a home out here
that's almost done. I mean it start off as a
remodel turned into a build and who does that in
the pandemic when ports close out? Yeah? We unfortunately we
did it too. So yeah, did you Okay, didn't you
think it was gonna be like some quick thing. I'm like,
no one else is. Yeah, I did, but that quickly,
that dream quickly died. Yeah. Um. One of my favorite
(26:48):
experiences with my daughter was up in Wine Country or
close to it. We were staying at the Skywalker Ranch
over Christmas holiday because no one was there and so
we just had like access to the whole property minus staff, right,
And every single morning, my daughter and I would get
up and this is a big side quest that has
nothing to do with wrestling, but Napa is like so
(27:10):
beautiful in northern California's is such a magical place. But
we would walk every morning out in this huge meadow
and it was so cold that the grass was frozen,
and I still remember the sound of it, like crunching
under our feet and her little crunches with her little
feet and my big clunky feet crunching through. And she
would always make me make up stories, right, and she goes, Dad,
(27:33):
tell me, tell me a story. I go, well, what
do you want it to be about? She goes about
a samurai. I used to collect samurai sorts, and so
I told her I would had to make up a
story real quick, which I always liked doing. And it
was about this like samurai who had to protect the emperor,
and the emperor had a daughter but no son, and
the girls in Japan back then, they weren't allowed to
(27:54):
train with the katana blade. And she would always hide
in the forest and when the soldiers would train, she
would grab a stick and she would always like practice
their moves. And then one day she went to her
secret spot and instead of a stick, there was a
wooden sword there, and she like freaks out right and
she grabs the sword, and the story got a little
longer on each walk. And then the samurai the next
(28:16):
day was there and he says, hey, I'm going to
train you and teach you because I see how disciplined
you are. And she's training in secret with him, and
then her dad like later on, we were there for
a week, so the story got longer every time. Later on,
her poor dad dies and she has to go on
this like you know, quest to like find who killed
her father, and it was this whole thing. But when
anyone says nap, I literally go to that story. I
(28:38):
got chills on my arm right now, just because like
I need to be a movie, a children's book, a
children's book one day. Yeah, honestly, I'm like girls would
finish the story on this huge rock that was actually
in a Return of the Jedi when they did some
reshoots there, and we sat on the rock and as
the sun would get over the mountain, it would like
(29:00):
warm everything up and melt all the crunchy grass, and
then we would finally warm up, and then we'd go
get coffee for Sarah and bring herself little like coffee
in bed. She wasn't trying to do breakfast that early. Yeah. Yeah,
I love it up there. I'm so glad you guys
are up there. It's just peaceful, Yeah it is, and
you know it's full magical. Like even earlier this morning,
(29:21):
I was all my I would to workout, and the
fog was like right over the vineyards and you could
barely see the mountains, but it looked like I was
like on some set of like a spooky movie, but
in a Yeah, but it was it's just heavenly here.
I told Bree, it's like now I go into cities
and I kind of get anxiety and I'm like, I
can't ever do a city again. Like you're definitely a farm,
(29:43):
You're a farm growing heart then for sure. Well yeah,
I mean I smell manure and artum the other day
because they're fertilizing everything. And he's like, oh, what's that smm.
I'm like, oh, that's just maneuvers. It's great. I grew
up on how shit, So I'm like, this is this
is home. I like this, that's awesome. Well, you two
are amazing, and I'm like I said, it's not about
(30:05):
being proud. I'm just so thoroughly impressed by the two
of you and everything you've done. And you guys are
steamrollers when you have a goal in mind and nothing
can stop y'all, And I respect it so much. So
I appreciate you guys taking the time. Appreciate it very much.
And I got love for you. Thank you so much. Ready, Yes,
and y'all always love you. Yeah, And you're always a
(30:26):
part of just our careers and lives because we really
one of the ones who believed and pushing we tell
everyone like it's I hear it all the time. People
will be like, I met the Bells and oh my gosh,
they love it. I'm like, Yo, that's that's them, not me.
They I just it was cool to be a part
of your All's career in the early goings. Where can
everybody reach you? Please let the people know what's going down. Yeah, so,
(30:49):
Nicky night. Every Wednesday we release an episode of our podcast,
The Bells Podcast. We're Unfiltered and Very Wrong. We talk
about everything, and you can find out wherever you get
your podcast, and also if you follow us on social
media at the Nikki Bella at the Reballot Twitters, the
Ballot Twins, and you'll see our day to day lives
and how crazy we are. All right, everybody, thank you
(31:11):
for listening to Wrestling with Freddie. We'll be back next week.
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