September 3, 2025 • 38 mins
Welcome to another exciting episode of Wrestling with Freddie, I'm joined by Jeff as we dive into the Clash in Paris event. From Roman Reigns walking out with a win (only to be carried out on a stretcher) to John Cena’s European farewell, we cover it all. We talk about the intense World Heavyweight Championship match, and what's next for the Wyatt Sicks. Tune in to hear our thoughts.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
What's up?
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Everybody?
Speaker 3 (00:03):
Thirty thousand strong turned to L'As de France Arena, the
Defense Arena, and they turned it into a pressure cooker.
Legends were honored, futures were forged. Roman reigns walked out
with a wind but got carried out on a stretcher.
John Cena had his European farewell. I've never seen the
crowd be so crazy, and seth Rawlins kept his crown
(00:25):
thanks to.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
The man, and I promise not to do this voice
ever again.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
This is Wrestling with Freddy. I'm here with Jeff Die.
Let's start the show and now your main event.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Introducing the hosts are Wrestling with Freddy, Jef Day and
Freddy Friends Junior.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
All right, you guys welcome. We're gonna talk Clash in Paris,
the winners, the losers, and the stories that changed the
road ahead. I didn't quote that, I just read that.
(01:22):
Our producer Alex wrote that. Pretty smooth, Alex, pretty smooth.
All right, let's get into this. First off, how's your weekend, sir?
What did you do besides watch French wrestling? Great weekend.
I was in Lexington, Kentucky. Got to hang out with
the nice people of Kentucky had a bunch of sold
out shows.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
It was great. Love it, Love it, Love it, Sir.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
I played a game of Battle Tech over my weekend
and I lost.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
So we're not gonna We're not gonna talk when you
say you lost. It just just didn't finish first. There's
only one winner. No, no, they blew up my robots.
I lost, Oh real quick, it was it was, yeah,
it was. It wasn't good. It was.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
It wasn't good anyway.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
You know who else lost?
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Your boy?
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Bronson Reid ha ha ha. He lost to Roman Reigns.
He's on that whole Vision thing with Seth Rollins. I
think they can afford to lose matches those guys because
real real, soon they're not going to be losing any
matches because they're both going to have belts around their waist.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
One will have an Inner Connell and one'll have a
there's stars. Can we just say that you can't go
ahead the stars? I don't want to hear any more
about oh JAUSO, this and so and so. Listen. It
is Bronson Reid, bron Breaker, and Jacob Fatu that is
the future of pro wrestling. Those three guys strap a
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rocket on their ass, as Triple H says in the
new documentary series Unreal, that's the only people they should
be working on, just fricking putting to the top. They're
so good.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Jeff loves these dudes, but I would say this where
you don't love jay Uso at all jaus So I
wouldn't say is the future. I would say he's the
right now, and I would agree with you that those
two dudes are the future as well as a small
handful of others. They have huge potential. I still hate
the name bron Breaker. I think that I'd like, he's
(03:16):
a Steiner Man. Let him have that name like that,
there'd be so much more impactful. All these like NXT
names make me crazy, like Rip Brickman and Mike winkle
John like all this stuff. I was just like, dude,
what are you just putting it into a jat GBT
coming out with like like give me the Corneis names?
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Ever? Well by that blame Vince anymore, you know, like
they used to be the kids gave him that name.
It was like, well, the names continue to be a
little strange, don't they.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Slim Jackman, like they're all terrible. There's not a good
one in there. Oh, Paul Hayman in the hospital from
a guillotine from Roman Reign. So we wish him a
healthy recovery. In in Gay powery get well soon Man
that that guillotine looked tight.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
He looks.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
What's the over under on him wearing neck brace? Next week?
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Well, we're recording this on the night. He'll come out
and he will be coming out in a neck brace
A hundred percent, one hundred percent. Even though it was
a choke out and not a neck crank, He's coming
out in a neck brace.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
There's some people that really love that, that classic wrestling stuff,
you know, and it's guys like Xavier Woods, It's guys
like Paul Hayman. They're gonna do the neck brace if
they've been wronged.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Absolutely absolutely, even if it's in the real life courtroom.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
So this was the opening match, Roman Rains Brown Breaker.
I didn't I'll put this out there right away. I
didn't love the pay per view. I didn't think there
was a ton of great chemistry in all the matches
in the opening and the closing of the show. I
thought we're both great. I thought Bronson Reid was awesome.
I thought Roman Rains was awesome. I love the choke
out of Paul Hayman at the end.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
I love.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
My daughter goes, why is he wearing shoes? And I go, well,
you know how Roman wears the Ulafalla and she goes yeah,
and I go, well he and she goes, don't even
say that, and I go, well, you didn't let me finish,
and she goes, cause I know what you're going to say.
And I was like, it's the shoe la fall and
she was like, that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard
about life.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Supposed she wasn't.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Yeah, she wasn't vibing with that, but she liked the
match and yeah, so she loved Paul Hayman stuff. She
loved watching him get choked out. She was like, Dad,
is that how long it takes to choke someone out?
I said in professional wrestling, Yes, in the UFC about
four seconds. But it was a really cool match, a
lot of fun to watch. And then afterwards every brown
Breaker came out and speared the shit out of Roman
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Reigns and Rains went down, and then everybody beat him
up so he could go make a movie. I mean,
because they hate him so Roman Rains, by the way,
has the best teeth in the game, straight up. I
hate him too. And Charles Olivera in the UFC. They
think they have the same tennis because it's the same
set of jelly roll they all got. These jelly rolls
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are glowing for sure, jelly roll acting.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
I mean, like they're beautiful teeth, and I'm hoping maybe
just like outside of the stage lights or something, they
look different, like maybe in real life they look like
regular teeth. But man, they're distracting.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Well, I'm almost fifty and I drink a lot of coffee,
so I'm getting them one of these days. Get them
that bright, Just get some No, I don't want to
put me. I don't want to put my high beams
on bro. I'm just gonna I'm not high beam. In
the homies, I'm doing well there they are.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
I mean, they just have fake.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Teeth in TV except fucking me. So yeah, so do
you see what the future is going to be? They
protect bron Breaker and or not bron Breaker Bronson Reid
even though he lost, by letting him get some licks
in afterwards, and see what you can see, Yeah, for sure,
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so you can see you know his future and his
potential and all that he lost to you know, the
the longest raining champion.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Of all time.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
No shame in that he still got his licks in
at the end, got some tsunamis off on him, broke
his back, broke his ribs broke, they're he broke everything,
and uh and so they get a they get a
good future. But this is your guy, dude, and you
were talking about the future. So what did you think
about the match?
Speaker 2 (07:08):
I loved the way they set up the Roman getting
the shoe Lafalla back and then him signing the shoes
and everyone losing their mind trying to get a signed shoe.
It was perfect because he doing it right in front
of Post Malone and Jelly Roll and my boy Josh
Adam Myers and uh so no one saw the spear
coming through the table, which I thought was a very
(07:28):
creative way to do that. And then that's why bron
breakers out there. So I loved the surprise effect of that.
Maybe if you're there live, it wasn't as surprising, but
like to us on TV, like it was, it was good.
And then also the I really liked that he got
so many splashes on him. He got so many What's
what's he.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Calling the tsunami?
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Yeah, tsunami. So I love that he got so many
tsunamis in. I thought that whole thing was awesome. I
loved the tsunami while he strapped to the stretcher. I
thought that was awesome, dude. I thought every part of
it was really good. Uh. My biggest thing that I
was complaining to you guys in the group chat is
just like, how how long do we have to watch
(08:08):
the audience sing Roman rain songs and chants and all
these different things.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
It was like nine minutes broke. It was like a
nine minute entrance. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
I'm guessing that if I'm in the WB writers room,
what they're going to say to me when I complain
about it is like, Jeff, We're the WW universe is important.
The WB universe is part of the product. We want
them to feel heard, we want them to be part
of this. We want the fans to have their voice.
But here's the thing, guys, that's some live house show bullshit.
(08:44):
I'm not in the arena when I'm watching on TV.
I don't want to watch a zoom in of seth
Rolins face or Roman's Reign's face or whoever they're singing
to or chanting to, or right when they put the
microphone up to their lips, they all start chanting him
punk again and then he starts looking at it. So
it's so much waste of a time. If all of
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these podcasts, all these YouTube channels, all the wrestling fans
want to cry every time they release a wrestler, or
they cut wrestling match times, or they're mean to the
women's division because they're not getting enough screen time, then
we've got to stop this crap so we can get
more wrestling, more stories, more mic work, more whatever, instead
of just watching for thirty five minutes everyone sing a
(09:29):
chant to Roman Reigns. It's too much.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Yeah, France, you got Jeff on one. Yeah, next time,
cut that shit in half, you hear me. We don't
want to argue you beings.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Fans, But why isn't the director going just talk, just
talk through it so you don't have to acknowledge them.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
You know, it's really.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Hard, dude, It's so hard. I'll tell you this. There's
historical precedence for this, Okay, Like back when the Rock
was popping and he was a full timer, there was
an Anaheim Show and I was watching early two thousands
and I'm watching I was just getting back into wrestling.
Wasn't doing like three movies a year anymore. It was like,
I'm gonna jump off a bridge. I need time off. Hey,
(10:10):
wrestling's on.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Cool.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
My man came out and it was like Elvis Presley
was on TV, like everyone's going crazy.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
It was a good four and a half five.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Minutes of him just on the turnbuckle and then he
raised an eyebrow, so I can't do it, but if
I can do it with my finger like that, and
the crowd goes bananas. They cut to commercial, so commercial,
I'm gonna be optimistic. Three minutes of commercials. They come
back in from the commercial, He's on the same turnbuckle
with the same eyebrow raised, and the crowd's still screaming
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and going crazy. And I literally was like I just
started watching wrestling again. I was like, when the fuck
are they gonna wrestle?
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Like, what is going on? What is going on here? Man?
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Like he's not the real Elvis Presley, Like he's just
got some sideburns and he's buffed, Like, well, I don't
know what's going on right, now. So it's always been
that way with the TV product on these like special
like premium live events, but to your point, it's now
permeated its way into the Monday night raws and the
Friday night smackdowns. And I don't watch NXT, but it
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happens in AEW two where the crowd is just they
take over the show. And I used to be very
anti crowd because the what chance I always thought was
very detrimental to wrestler's Mike development work. And then after
years of growing and just having more life experience, I
was like, nah, it's they want to be a part
of the show and they should be a part of
the show. And that's okay. And if if it messes
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you up, it messes you up. If you find a
way to work with it, like Jay Usso did the
yeat instead of the what and he flipped that around
on him, then okay, cool, you got that for you.
But when they take over a show, it's very distracting
to the TV audience. Now, if you're in the crowd,
you don't give a shit. You're there, You're a part
of this moment, so you feel special, right, But just
so you guys know, it sucks. It's it sucks, man,
(11:55):
it's so boring to watch.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Also, why I don't watch soccer? By the way, what
did they think we're thinking? Well? What what you just said?
The soccer players don't stop and acknowledge the audience chanting
all those things. It's happening during the product. But the
thing with the like what what does everyone think we're doing? Like,
do you think we're at home going? Wow? Paris really
loves John Cena. I don't care. I love John Cena,
(12:19):
I love Paris. I want the crowd to be a
good crowd, but I don't. I'm not at homegoing Wow.
I really like how much Dublin appreciates the Roman reigns.
I don't. It doesn't do anything for us as viewers.
We want more wrestling, more stories, more mic work, more moments.
I don't. I don't like it's it's like when they
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try to brag about how many people are in the audience, Oh,
we had a soul day, or they try to brag
like we're switching to USA now, now we're on Peacock,
now we're on Netflix, now we're on ESPN. I don't care.
None of that does anything for me. Just do the
wrestling show. Stop trying to convince me you're some NBA
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product or something where I'm supposed to really go, Wow,
they're really popular and people. Really I don't care. Just watch,
just make it wrestling.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
I feel like Bubba Ray is like channeling through you
right now.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Well, they're trying to, like siof Us into being like,
did you hear how many people were at Summer Slam.
It's like, I don't care how many people are at
Summer Slam. It's good for you. You guys should care. It's
your business. But why are you telling me? Why are
you like now, I'm just going, Yeah, it's gonna be
expensive and I'm gonna have to buy ESPN streaming. Like
they try to like trick us into like thinking that
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this is some like that we would be businessmen. We're
not businessmen. We're wrestling fans. Yeah, that's what we are.
I'm a wrestling fan. Next up was the why It's
Six versus the Street profits tell us what you thought, Freddie.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
I didn't love it, man, I didn't love it, and
I like the people in the match. It's just like
sometimes you see a movie, right and you go because
you like the two actors, and then you watch the
movie and you don't really connect with what's going on
because the two actors just didn't have chemistry. They're both good,
you liked them separately in other films, you've liked them
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with other actors opposite them, but with this it didn't work.
Like I'm old, so like not everyone's gonna get this analogy.
But like Billy Crystal and Meg Ryan, they were in
a movie called When Harry Met Sally, loved the chemistry,
thought that was great. She did another series of movies
with Tom Hanks, loved the chemistry, thought they were great.
Then she did a movie with Russell Crowe. No chemistry.
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Now a part of that was because and this is
public information, I think they were sleeping together.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
They say, God gives them some chemistry.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
No, it does the opposite, because all the tension then
goes away because you've already had a smooch, so there
is no tension between the characters. It's and the director
spoke about this and it was very like frustrat about
it. It spoke about it in an interview, So I'm not
like spelling beans or anything like that. But yeah, so
it just felt like the chemistry wasn't quite there. There
were a lot of like long delays and spots for
me that kind of like took me. I was like, wait,
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what's going on? Is someone hurt? Like what are they doing?
That happened a couple of times, and it happened in
more than one match. Like I said at the top
of the show, it wasn't my favorite, my favorite pla
of the year by any by any stretch. But yeah,
this one didn't click for me. And I don't know
what to do with the Wide six Man. Their characters
are supernatural and they're existing in a world that's natural,
and I'm not seeing the line get blurred. I'm just
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seeing two separate worlds try to play without acknowledging the other.
And it just is just not It's not clicking for me.
It hasn't clicked for me from day one, outside of
the debut. The debut which got a little crazy because
they there was like a bullet hole in one of
their wrestler's heads and then he was fine the next
week if I remember correct killed the guy. Yeah, they
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killed the guy and then he came back. But it
hasn't I like the characters. I like supernatural stuff for sure.
I love horror movies. I loved Bray, I loved Undertaker,
I loved Kine, Like these are all like horror type characters.
But this just hasn't clicked with me from day one,
and I don't know if it's gonna Jeff, I don't
making them champions I think was the wrong choice because
(16:15):
I don't think they need a belt. And now it's
like they're trying to be mainstream even though they're supernatural,
because they're representing the company as champions. So it's just
all weird to me, and it doesn't seem like it's
it's it's thought through in a way that I can
grab on to. Maybe other people are loving it because
people still love the White Six. I'm just not loving
the story. What about what is?
Speaker 2 (16:37):
So if you're a writer and you're in the writer room,
they go, Freddie, you're an actor, you're a Halloween guy,
you love horror stuff. How do we fix this? What? Like,
you know what, I agree with your criticism, but what's
your would you have a solution for it?
Speaker 1 (16:53):
You have to have a mouthpiece.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
That can effectively execute the message of the whys, and
they have to be really really strong on the mic
they don't have to be a great wrestler. They're just
a mouthpiece, right. It could have been a manager, although
it'd be weird to manage a supernatural group. So it
has to be one of the group. And Bo has
his thing, but his thing is this is this Uncle
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Howdie character, which is a very specific point of view,
which I don't think is mainstream enough to grab onto.
So maybe it's somebody else has to be the voice
of them, and you let Bo wrestle more. I mean,
he can talk a little on the mic, but you
give somebody else. And again I've mentioned this before, like
maybe you bring in someone like Alexa Bliss, but she's
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doing something completely different right now, so that wouldn't make
sense either. So I'm not trying to dump on them
without a solution. But I don't have a solution because
I don't click. I don't click with the Wyat six man.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
I just don't.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
I just don't get it.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
I liked this. I'll talk about the match first. I
thought the match was fun. I loved that they came
down in the video game stuff. Oh the Borderland Masks, Yeah,
that was where the Land Masks were awesome. I thought
that was really good too a fun way, so like
we all not we. When I say we, I mean
wrestling fans often complain about, you know, the product placements.
(18:12):
You know, why does it say slim gyms on the tables?
Why does it have a prime table? Why? Why is
you know, like there could be some criticism when when
you realize every inch of your product has been sold
to advertisers. I thought this was a really creative way
to do it in a way that was cool. I
loved the masks. I thought they looked awesome. They didn't
go cheap on it, like it looked really cool, and
the street profits looked awesome. The match was great. I
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thought the match was awesome. Also, I agree there was
no chemistry in the story of this. I think this
was like a last minute, thrown together thing. But it
still was like at least a good wrestling match, which
I appreciated. But I think the problem with it, in
my opinion, is like Joe Gacy and Dexter Loomis are
pretty I don't know how to describe. They're not like
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a list stars, like if you went around and said,
you know, he had a picture of Huscus the Pig
Boy and Mercy the Buzzard and you said, who plays
these guys? I bet you have. The people in the
wrestling audience can't even name those wrestlers, and it's kind
of able to name the characters that you just named
so well. I think that that's kind of the problem
with Why at six Too, is like we're kind of
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forgetting that Bo Dallas and and Nikki Kross and and
Eric Rowan his entire career, no disrespect, but dexter Looms
and Joe Gacy are all climbing. They're all trying to
be bigger stars. So you really have a giant faction
of people that aren't really there yet as far as
like over the Carecrows. Yeah, yeah, like people just like
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I think they're all great wrestlers and they're all cool
looking and they make a great group, especially if you're
buying a shirt or a poster, but like when it
comes to like them as their own thing, like they're
not really there yet. They're not the A list. Got
so adding Alexa Bliss or adding some sort of something
they can put them over, Yeah, they need something. But
I think I think you're right. I think put the
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belts on him was a mistake, But I think I
still believe in it because I love Halloween stuff. I
love this type of like dark kind of stuff. I
love Bray Wyatt, so like, I'm so in on Wyatt six,
But I don't know what fixes them. Maybe get them
feuding with a bunch of people that are similar in
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their style, like Alistair Black could go back and forth
with Bo Dallas or you get our character.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Yeah, that's a good idea.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Get someone in that realm, or at least close to
that realm that can kind of put them, you know,
you know, like let them do their stuff a little
bit better. Also, I have an idea that they should use,
you know how Tony Storm whenever she's wrestling in aew
that it goes to black and white because she's doing
that character. I don't think that the Wyatt six should
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ever ever ever be seen in full lighting. It should
always go dark, not fully dark, obviously it's a safe tissue,
but it should always like their paranormal activity is affecting.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
The light something.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
So when they come out, no matter what they come out,
whether it's Nicky Cross, whether it's Joe Gacy, no matter
who it is, that the lights should always go a
little less dark and everyone's like kind of like what's happening?
You know, Like it'd be like if Undertaker wrestled with
like so like it's his entrance, but then during the
match it's still like this kind of purply hated because
that will really be like that one match was different
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than the other's and it was like kind of dark
in there, and like like they should keep that. It's
a very easy switch with led lights.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Nowadays, they need something, man, even if it was like
the way that it was viewed on the television where
it's like it looks like an old VHS tape even
when they're wrestling that like you rewound a million times,
Like just they need something to keep them magical because
once they break the barrier and they go into the ring,
they're just professional wrestlers, right, and they can't do supernatural
stuff in the ring, you know what I mean, Like
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there's that doesn't exist. We all know that.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
So it's just tree dude, it's just tricky. I think
you're right.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Maybe they could just do it for the TV audience
just yeah, and the house shows excited to be there anyway. Yeah, something, Dode,
they need something. I think you're right. Next up, this
was the toughest match of the night. This was the
Icy title match, Becky Lynch versus Nicki Bella. This was
match was made after we recorded, so we didn't have
a prediction on this. The only prediction we had so
(22:22):
far was Roman and Brunson, and we all picked Roman,
so we were right on there and we made you money.
There was a big miss in this match, which took
a lot of people out of the moment.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
The story coming up was good. I like the Jimmy
Connors Wimbledon story. I like when the veteran is going
to go deep in a tournament and make a run.
They did it with Nigel McGinnis versus Zach Saber Junior,
and aw, they're doing it here with Nicky and Becky
in a match that had never been made before. They'd
never wrestled before, and you could tell. And I like
both these girls a lot, But this match just didn't.
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It just didn't play man and I don't know what
it was. The crowd did not want Nicki. They wanted Becky,
even though Becky was the heel and Nicky was the
baby face. So the whole energy of the match switched
right away because they were booing nicky and cheering Becky.
Maybe that's what threw threw it off and and messed
up the chemistry. It just didn't it didn't play for
me and I, so you know, it was it was
(23:15):
what it was. Becky has a moment later in the
night that that uh, that saved it, but this match
what didn't didn't play that that strong for me unfortunately.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yeah, this was tough. It was. It was I don't
know how to talk about it without seeming disrespectful, but
just the whole match was kind of clunky.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
It was.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
It was very like I bought into it more than
most people. When they were doing their back and forth
with crowd work. I was like, all right, this is good,
this maybe it could be good. But when it came
down to just the pound for pound wrestling and the thing,
I was like, I was it was. It was hard
for me to not come out of it like I
wasn't in it anymore. I was going, geez, these these
(23:54):
hits are very theatrical, like you know when you when
your friend watches wrestling that doesn't like wrestling, Who's like
this crap's fake, and you're like, then you have to
like defend wrestling and be like, oh yeah, I know,
but it's fun, like they're telling a story.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
I was.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
I became that friend. I was like, this is terrible
like that that move right there. So I'm not trying
to be too hard. Also, I just think Becky's more
superior than the than the IC title. I know she's
bringing the title up because you know, yes, but but
I still see it as like a slight to her almost.
I'm like, why is she in the icy you know thing?
(24:29):
And she's doing great things with that belt and for
that belt, but I think she's better than that. I
think she's also better than having to do this match.
And it was it was just not It was not great,
is all I'm going to say.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Next step, I lost you guys some money, but Jeff
and Alex made you money if you didn't listen to me.
The Donnybrook match, it was Seamus's match. How do you
lose your own match? Seamous? But he did russef submitted
him with the damn acolyte or accolade whatever it's called,
and a sale not cool, brutal match. Super creative did
(25:11):
his white noise. I think it's cold where he's got
him on his back. He did it like off a
giant whiskey barrel into a frigging tables.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Always cool. I love him.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Seamus just actually beats people up and lets people actually
beat him up so it looks like a real fight
because it is so. I love his matches. He calls
him bangers and it certainly was. But again I got
the finish wrong. I believed in you, Shamous. You let
me down man, and Russev got the win. So we'll
see what's next for Russev. It doesn't matter what's next
(25:40):
for Seamous. He's always going to be beloved and uh
and cared for. The crowd loves him and all his
matches are fun. So so yeah, that was my thoughts. Nice,
easy one to talk about, tons of fun, brutal. Wish
there was blood because now I'm in a w siico,
but it was still fun. And shout out to Logan Paul.
He had a little nose bleed.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
That was cool.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Anyway ahead, Jeff, I was.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Going to say that just I liked that they used
all the parts of the set. So it's like they
brought out like a little like Irish pub bar instead
of the prime table, and then they had like these
big whiskey barrels set up, and I thought it was
just for looks. I was like, oh that's cool. Instead
of the prime table being a prime table for this,
it's a little it's a little bar, which is kind
(26:22):
of cool because these are these guys are kind of
representing the other countries. You know, he got Russoff and
he got Seamus, and we're in France, but you know,
all these other places kind of represented. And then they
went through all that stuff. They slammed. You know, Seamus
got slammed through that little bar, and then Russef got
slammed through the tables off of those whiskey barrels. I mean,
I really liked that they used all that stuff. I
(26:44):
love Russof and I love Seamus. I was kind of
confused on how they led up to this match. The
story leading up to this match was kind of old
school and strange, but the match itself was awesome. And
here I am this is classic Jeff my entire life.
I've done it on this podcast a million times. I
think he was actually hurt when he was giving him
the thing, like when he was doing his final move,
(27:05):
Like I feel like Seamus was like all right, all right,
that's like I think it was kind of like very
uncomfortable for him, so funny, and he was like kind
of hey man, the match is over. It was it
was what I feel like. I feel like he was
gone out. Dude, that sucks what you're doing. But it
was great. I thought the match was cool and I
love both those guys, and they really commit to it,
like you said, like you can see them swelling up
(27:28):
and getting marked and bleeding and like banged up elbows
and you can see like little wounds forming on them
during the match, which really keeps me in it.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
Which that's all seamous matches because he's so white, like
he bruises so awesome, like everywhere on his body. This
looks great, dude, you'll see it all right. Next up,
Scena versus Logan pol would have been would have been
match of the night, but the main event I think
took it Logan. Paul can wrestle his butt off. John
Cena called the match. You can obviously see and hear
(27:59):
him call his matches, but he called a great He
called a great match. He's like a catcher working with
a young pitcher. That's like the baseball analogy that I
could equate it to like the veteran catcher who's like
calling the game and the young pitchers really throwing some
good heat and controlling what he's doing.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
You know.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
The build up for this was tricky for me because
I think Scene is a lot better on the mic
than Logan is right now. I'd love to see Logan
have somebody speak for him and protect him a little
bit on the microphone. He gets a little tight and
nervous up there, but when he's in the ring wrestling man,
he wrestles free as hell and gives a really solid match,
a really fun match, every single time. I don't know
(28:35):
how much is coming from his head and how much
is Hurricane Helms, because I think that's the guy that
works with him, but the most shout out Shane Helms
and seen as John Cena. Man, he's just badass and
he sells like crazy, and he needs the crowd's energy
to get him up, so they sing him a French song. Jeff,
I don't know what the words were, but I think
it was we want Freddy. Yeah, that's what I heard.
(28:56):
That's what I think. I didn't take French, but I'm
pretty sure, man, I watched a Sophie Marsaul movie because
she was hot back in the day and so my
French is pretty tight. But yeah, man, really fun match. All.
I picked John Cena. We all picked John Cena. You
all picked John Cena because you knew he wasn't gonna
lose that match, especially with brock lesnar around the corner.
He's got to have a win under his belt. So
(29:17):
we made you money on this one as well. Had
a ton of fun watching it, what about you, sir.
We got to give Logan Paul his flowers. He's so good.
He's so good.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
He was hamming it up so over the top and
it played. It worked because he's just such a little
jerky in that, which is exactly what you want. The
way he's doing it, it's like he's really I don't
know if he's doing it on purpose, but it's got
a very classic kind of heel to it, like it
has like an old school heel to it, which I
(29:47):
really really really like. Sna crushed it. Man gave us
everything we wanted. Hurri Can ron A code red styles, clash, angels, wings,
gave us the five knuckles shuffle or whatever it's called.
He literally was classic scene for those fans and for
us at home, and then he also like was hustling,
like he was like he still got everything, like you
(30:07):
still got a chance. Never been more true for John Cena.
He's he's a star. It literally was. It was fun
to watch him realize, oh, yeah, this is the last
time I'll be in Paris in wrestling, which, by the way,
I'll say it again, wrestlers never retire. Scene will be
back in like two years at Royal Rumble or something.
You never maybe he'll be the first to have a
(30:27):
real retirement. Maybe he'll still be in wrestling. He'll still
show up to promote a movie. He'll still show up.
We're never gonna really lose him. But anyways, he he
was great. It was very very fun to watch. It
really was. I know John Cena won, but he's still
put Logan over like you don't need to. Totally. It
was a great match, and I thought also, I thought,
(30:50):
I thought the whole thing was awesome.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
We're getting ready to close it out here, getting near
the end. We got the World Heavyweight Championship match seth rawlins.
The champion came out out looking smooth, not too ridiculous.
It was like superstar rock star. Not normal clothes, but
not you know, the wicked Witch of the North coming
into all white or some goofy thing with a you know,
(31:13):
head piece and all that. He came in pretty normal,
pretty normal, So respect on the clothes. We all picked
Seth to retain. This was the easiest call the night.
You know, way is he going to lose? You don't
put Paul Hayman and those two guys with him so
he can lose the match, especially if Bronson's going to
lose the opener. The vision still has to look good
at the end, So easy pick. We made you cash
on this one. But that's not the story of the match.
(31:34):
The story of the match is cm Punk and Seth rawlins.
We knew LA and Knight wasn't going to get it.
We knew jay Usso wasn't going to get it. Hell,
he got beat up and hurt by Brown before the
match even started, but he.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Gave a valuet effort.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
La Knight and cmpunk will have a future storyline together,
I believe. But in this match, it comes down to
Seth and cm Punk and cmpunk hits the go to
sleep and Seth bounces off the ropes and lands right
on a tired and exhaust did see him punk shoulders
while he's on.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
His knees and he laughs.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
He's like, I can't believe you landed right in the
same position to take another go to sleep. And he
stands up and he starts talking to the crowd. I
don't know what he said. It's probably in French. And
he said bone soiea me That means goodbye, my friend.
And then Becky Lynch said hell no and busted him
(32:23):
right in his nuts. And you're like, Freddie, how'd you
know was Becky Lynch?
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Well?
Speaker 3 (32:25):
I didn't and neither did you, because it was a ninja.
And then when the ninja took off their mask, it
revealed themselves to be the Intercontinental champion. Becky Lynch, the
wife of Seth Rawlin. She protected her man because she
is the man, and she's willing to punch nuts to
prove it.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
So, yeah, so a while to take that mask off too,
take a little while. Oh my god, she forgot how
she put it on. She was like, I'm just pulling
off the mask off. I knew it was before the
mask came off. I go, I think it's Becky. Maybe
I don't know a small body.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Yeah, you could tell it was a girl for sure.
If it's a girl, it's going to be Becky. But
we're saying it was a ninja. Come on, so this ninja,
this little ninja came this cute little ninja came in,
punches him right in the nuts, not so cute, reveals
herself to be Becky Lynch. And then they talked ship
to jelly Roll and to and I like jelly Roll
now because he did the job and lost his match,
(33:16):
So why are you talking shit to somebody that's cool?
Speaker 2 (33:18):
And I liked talking to jelly Roll.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
She was like, your music sucks. This is why you
play this is how you play music. Oh she was
talking mad ship. She's like, my impression sounds better than
your music.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Like she.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Oh no, she hated him and his teeth and uh.
And then she talks some ship to post Malone and
said his music sucks too. She went off with her
husband and he said, let's go back to the hotel, baby,
And that was the end of the night. And then
Biggie drops the biggest internet bombshell ever and he goes,
you know what could happen if it's seth and Becky
(33:55):
it could be CM Punk and aj Lee and the
other announcer's been crazy and the whole internet went crazy,
and someone in creative went, God, damn it, that's what
we were gonna do.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
What fuck shit?
Speaker 2 (34:09):
I got to do better at keeping secrets in twenty
I don't.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Think he knew. I think he was just speculating.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Yeah, in twenty twenty four, you were fine not keeping secrets,
But this is twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
What's just like, that's the whole thing. The only reason
we like something is because it's a surprise. A joke
ain't not anymore. Spoil the punchline, and a story ain't
good if everyone spoils the ending. It's like, hey, have
you heard the joke where the end is? Uh?
Speaker 3 (34:33):
The chicken has to get to the other side? Have
you heard that one? All right, let me tell you
this joke. So why, Oh, you're right? No, I think
you're right.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Se Yeah, Well, whenever there's a wrestler returning, let him return.
Don't don't show them pulling up to the arena and
getting out of the car for a shot like teasing it, and.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
Stop advertising that the surprises are going to be there.
To the house audience, like they start screaming the person's
name before the person and even comes out because you've
advertised it to sell that arena out.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Don't do that shit. Sorry I had to jump on it.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
No, I agree with That's exactly what I'm saying is
like all these wrestling fans are so into the product,
we love it so much that they're good at finding
stuff and they're good at guessing, like, oh, aj Lee's coming,
I saw a sign that said aj Lee and see
them punk pointed to it. Or so if they're already
this good and they're already good, then don't help them,
(35:26):
like like try to be more secretive. That's why that
seth Rawlins thing changed the changed the game overnight. That's
why Brockluster coming Back broke the internet. It's because they
weren't going rock Lessner two weeks from now, and you know,
like they it's just they just let it happen and
they kept it a secret and they didn't bring everyone
(35:47):
in on the on the thing. So I know that
our you know, our podcast, you know we're not like
a news breaking podcast, but we don't need to be.
And also like, you know, why why is Dave Meltzer
get to spoil everything before it happens. I don't understand
why it's allowed. Yeah, wreckers of shit, stop wrecking shit,
all right? Recap Jeff Brown Breaker instant main event credibility,
(36:12):
Gonna get a match with him in Roman when Roman's
done being a movie star. Russev gets the submission over Shamus,
elevates him to his next opponent and he can start
maybe chasing a title, like a mid card title, maybe
John Cena with a signature win in Europe and the
people still believe they love their baby face John Cena.
We're getting close to the end. We're getting close to
(36:33):
brock Lessner, so that'll be fun. And remember brock Lesner myrtalized.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
Him the last time they wrestled and beat him in
like thirty three seconds, So you know, John Cena's getting
the win back and it's gonna be a brutal match.
It'll be like thirty five minutes long, and he's gonna
actually beat the beast in Carnate.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
You better do you some sort of freak thing for
us to believe that brock would lose to John Cena.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
He's gonna aam like off a freaking balcony or something. Dude,
bring a gun to the match or something. He's gonna
hit them with a little slugger.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
What else?
Speaker 1 (37:02):
What else?
Speaker 3 (37:03):
We got rollins and punk very personal now could lead
to an intergender match, by the way, I'm.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Joking, that's never gonna happen. They hate those matches.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
Becky is she a part of the vision. We don't know.
It could be.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
The tag scene is weird to me? For the why
six keep the belts? The profits are They're going to
be doubt in their tag team. No, so, I don't
know where they're going, but that's pretty much it. We're
going to say goodbye to the Peacock pl E era.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
It is over.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
That was their final pl I think from now on
they're going to be on ESPN. If I'm wrong about that,
I apologize. That's our show. Paris delivered a classic. There
was emotion, there was violence and the kind of angles
that cook you for weeks.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
I didn't say that. Our producer Alex.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
Said that also tomorrow or whenever you like to listen
to Unsanctioned stay tuned for that. We're going to get
into two new stuff on that episode. I'm not going
to tell you what we're gonna do. You just gotta
watch because sometime as we talk about whatever we want,
and if I advertise it, I might not do it.
But thank you for listening. On Bath of Jeff, I'm Freddie.
We love you guys.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Thanks for listening. We'll be here next week to peace
What's up?
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Everybody?
Speaker 3 (00:03):
Thirty thousand strong turned to L'As de France Arena, the
Defense Arena, and they turned it into a pressure cooker.
Legends were honored, futures were forged. Roman reigns walked out
with a wind but got carried out on a stretcher.
John Cena had his European farewell. I've never seen the
crowd be so crazy, and seth Rawlins kept his crown
(00:25):
thanks to.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
The man, and I promise not to do this voice
ever again.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
This is Wrestling with Freddy. I'm here with Jeff Die.
Let's start the show and now your main event.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Introducing the hosts are Wrestling with Freddy, Jef Day and
Freddy Friends Junior.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
All right, you guys welcome. We're gonna talk Clash in Paris,
the winners, the losers, and the stories that changed the
road ahead. I didn't quote that, I just read that.
(01:22):
Our producer Alex wrote that. Pretty smooth, Alex, pretty smooth.
All right, let's get into this. First off, how's your weekend, sir?
What did you do besides watch French wrestling? Great weekend.
I was in Lexington, Kentucky. Got to hang out with
the nice people of Kentucky had a bunch of sold
out shows.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
It was great. Love it, Love it, Love it, Sir.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
I played a game of Battle Tech over my weekend
and I lost.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
So we're not gonna We're not gonna talk when you
say you lost. It just just didn't finish first. There's
only one winner. No, no, they blew up my robots.
I lost, Oh real quick, it was it was, yeah,
it was. It wasn't good. It was.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
It wasn't good anyway.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
You know who else lost?
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Your boy?
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Bronson Reid ha ha ha. He lost to Roman Reigns.
He's on that whole Vision thing with Seth Rollins. I
think they can afford to lose matches those guys because
real real, soon they're not going to be losing any
matches because they're both going to have belts around their waist.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
One will have an Inner Connell and one'll have a
there's stars. Can we just say that you can't go
ahead the stars? I don't want to hear any more
about oh JAUSO, this and so and so. Listen. It
is Bronson Reid, bron Breaker, and Jacob Fatu that is
the future of pro wrestling. Those three guys strap a
(02:42):
rocket on their ass, as Triple H says in the
new documentary series Unreal, that's the only people they should
be working on, just fricking putting to the top. They're
so good.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Jeff loves these dudes, but I would say this where
you don't love jay Uso at all jaus So I
wouldn't say is the future. I would say he's the
right now, and I would agree with you that those
two dudes are the future as well as a small
handful of others. They have huge potential. I still hate
the name bron Breaker. I think that I'd like, he's
(03:16):
a Steiner Man. Let him have that name like that,
there'd be so much more impactful. All these like NXT
names make me crazy, like Rip Brickman and Mike winkle
John like all this stuff. I was just like, dude,
what are you just putting it into a jat GBT
coming out with like like give me the Corneis names?
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Ever? Well by that blame Vince anymore, you know, like
they used to be the kids gave him that name.
It was like, well, the names continue to be a
little strange, don't they.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Slim Jackman, like they're all terrible. There's not a good
one in there. Oh, Paul Hayman in the hospital from
a guillotine from Roman Reign. So we wish him a
healthy recovery. In in Gay powery get well soon Man
that that guillotine looked tight.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
He looks.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
What's the over under on him wearing neck brace? Next week?
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Well, we're recording this on the night. He'll come out
and he will be coming out in a neck brace
A hundred percent, one hundred percent. Even though it was
a choke out and not a neck crank, He's coming
out in a neck brace.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
There's some people that really love that, that classic wrestling stuff,
you know, and it's guys like Xavier Woods, It's guys
like Paul Hayman. They're gonna do the neck brace if
they've been wronged.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Absolutely absolutely, even if it's in the real life courtroom.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
So this was the opening match, Roman Rains Brown Breaker.
I didn't I'll put this out there right away. I
didn't love the pay per view. I didn't think there
was a ton of great chemistry in all the matches
in the opening and the closing of the show. I
thought we're both great. I thought Bronson Reid was awesome.
I thought Roman Rains was awesome. I love the choke
out of Paul Hayman at the end.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
I love.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
My daughter goes, why is he wearing shoes? And I go, well,
you know how Roman wears the Ulafalla and she goes yeah,
and I go, well he and she goes, don't even
say that, and I go, well, you didn't let me finish,
and she goes, cause I know what you're going to say.
And I was like, it's the shoe la fall and
she was like, that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard
about life.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Supposed she wasn't.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Yeah, she wasn't vibing with that, but she liked the
match and yeah, so she loved Paul Hayman stuff. She
loved watching him get choked out. She was like, Dad,
is that how long it takes to choke someone out?
I said in professional wrestling, Yes, in the UFC about
four seconds. But it was a really cool match, a
lot of fun to watch. And then afterwards every brown
Breaker came out and speared the shit out of Roman
(05:33):
Reigns and Rains went down, and then everybody beat him
up so he could go make a movie. I mean,
because they hate him so Roman Rains, by the way,
has the best teeth in the game, straight up. I
hate him too. And Charles Olivera in the UFC. They
think they have the same tennis because it's the same
set of jelly roll they all got. These jelly rolls
(05:54):
are glowing for sure, jelly roll acting.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
I mean, like they're beautiful teeth, and I'm hoping maybe
just like outside of the stage lights or something, they
look different, like maybe in real life they look like
regular teeth. But man, they're distracting.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Well, I'm almost fifty and I drink a lot of coffee,
so I'm getting them one of these days. Get them
that bright, Just get some No, I don't want to
put me. I don't want to put my high beams
on bro. I'm just gonna I'm not high beam. In
the homies, I'm doing well there they are.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
I mean, they just have fake.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Teeth in TV except fucking me. So yeah, so do
you see what the future is going to be? They
protect bron Breaker and or not bron Breaker Bronson Reid
even though he lost, by letting him get some licks
in afterwards, and see what you can see, Yeah, for sure,
(06:46):
so you can see you know his future and his
potential and all that he lost to you know, the
the longest raining champion.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Of all time.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
No shame in that he still got his licks in
at the end, got some tsunamis off on him, broke
his back, broke his ribs broke, they're he broke everything,
and uh and so they get a they get a
good future. But this is your guy, dude, and you
were talking about the future. So what did you think
about the match?
Speaker 2 (07:08):
I loved the way they set up the Roman getting
the shoe Lafalla back and then him signing the shoes
and everyone losing their mind trying to get a signed shoe.
It was perfect because he doing it right in front
of Post Malone and Jelly Roll and my boy Josh
Adam Myers and uh so no one saw the spear
coming through the table, which I thought was a very
(07:28):
creative way to do that. And then that's why bron
breakers out there. So I loved the surprise effect of that.
Maybe if you're there live, it wasn't as surprising, but
like to us on TV, like it was, it was good.
And then also the I really liked that he got
so many splashes on him. He got so many What's
what's he.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Calling the tsunami?
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Yeah, tsunami. So I love that he got so many
tsunamis in. I thought that whole thing was awesome. I
loved the tsunami while he strapped to the stretcher. I
thought that was awesome, dude. I thought every part of
it was really good. Uh. My biggest thing that I
was complaining to you guys in the group chat is
just like, how how long do we have to watch
(08:08):
the audience sing Roman rain songs and chants and all
these different things.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
It was like nine minutes broke. It was like a
nine minute entrance. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
I'm guessing that if I'm in the WB writers room,
what they're going to say to me when I complain
about it is like, Jeff, We're the WW universe is important.
The WB universe is part of the product. We want
them to feel heard, we want them to be part
of this. We want the fans to have their voice.
But here's the thing, guys, that's some live house show bullshit.
(08:44):
I'm not in the arena when I'm watching on TV.
I don't want to watch a zoom in of seth
Rolins face or Roman's Reign's face or whoever they're singing
to or chanting to, or right when they put the
microphone up to their lips, they all start chanting him
punk again and then he starts looking at it. So
it's so much waste of a time. If all of
(09:05):
these podcasts, all these YouTube channels, all the wrestling fans
want to cry every time they release a wrestler, or
they cut wrestling match times, or they're mean to the
women's division because they're not getting enough screen time, then
we've got to stop this crap so we can get
more wrestling, more stories, more mic work, more whatever, instead
of just watching for thirty five minutes everyone sing a
(09:29):
chant to Roman Reigns. It's too much.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Yeah, France, you got Jeff on one. Yeah, next time,
cut that shit in half, you hear me. We don't
want to argue you beings.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Fans, But why isn't the director going just talk, just
talk through it so you don't have to acknowledge them.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
You know, it's really.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Hard, dude, It's so hard. I'll tell you this. There's
historical precedence for this, Okay, Like back when the Rock
was popping and he was a full timer, there was
an Anaheim Show and I was watching early two thousands
and I'm watching I was just getting back into wrestling.
Wasn't doing like three movies a year anymore. It was like,
I'm gonna jump off a bridge. I need time off. Hey,
(10:10):
wrestling's on.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Cool.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
My man came out and it was like Elvis Presley
was on TV, like everyone's going crazy.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
It was a good four and a half five.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Minutes of him just on the turnbuckle and then he
raised an eyebrow, so I can't do it, but if
I can do it with my finger like that, and
the crowd goes bananas. They cut to commercial, so commercial,
I'm gonna be optimistic. Three minutes of commercials. They come
back in from the commercial, He's on the same turnbuckle
with the same eyebrow raised, and the crowd's still screaming
(10:41):
and going crazy. And I literally was like I just
started watching wrestling again. I was like, when the fuck
are they gonna wrestle?
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Like, what is going on? What is going on here? Man?
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Like he's not the real Elvis Presley, Like he's just
got some sideburns and he's buffed, Like, well, I don't
know what's going on right, now. So it's always been
that way with the TV product on these like special
like premium live events, but to your point, it's now
permeated its way into the Monday night raws and the
Friday night smackdowns. And I don't watch NXT, but it
(11:10):
happens in AEW two where the crowd is just they
take over the show. And I used to be very
anti crowd because the what chance I always thought was
very detrimental to wrestler's Mike development work. And then after
years of growing and just having more life experience, I
was like, nah, it's they want to be a part
of the show and they should be a part of
the show. And that's okay. And if if it messes
(11:31):
you up, it messes you up. If you find a
way to work with it, like Jay Usso did the
yeat instead of the what and he flipped that around
on him, then okay, cool, you got that for you.
But when they take over a show, it's very distracting
to the TV audience. Now, if you're in the crowd,
you don't give a shit. You're there, You're a part
of this moment, so you feel special, right, But just
so you guys know, it sucks. It's it sucks, man,
(11:55):
it's so boring to watch.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Also, why I don't watch soccer? By the way, what
did they think we're thinking? Well? What what you just said?
The soccer players don't stop and acknowledge the audience chanting
all those things. It's happening during the product. But the
thing with the like what what does everyone think we're doing? Like,
do you think we're at home going? Wow? Paris really
loves John Cena. I don't care. I love John Cena,
(12:19):
I love Paris. I want the crowd to be a
good crowd, but I don't. I'm not at homegoing Wow.
I really like how much Dublin appreciates the Roman reigns.
I don't. It doesn't do anything for us as viewers.
We want more wrestling, more stories, more mic work, more moments.
I don't. I don't like it's it's like when they
(12:41):
try to brag about how many people are in the audience, Oh,
we had a soul day, or they try to brag
like we're switching to USA now, now we're on Peacock,
now we're on Netflix, now we're on ESPN. I don't care.
None of that does anything for me. Just do the
wrestling show. Stop trying to convince me you're some NBA
(13:02):
product or something where I'm supposed to really go, Wow,
they're really popular and people. Really I don't care. Just watch,
just make it wrestling.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
I feel like Bubba Ray is like channeling through you
right now.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Well, they're trying to, like siof Us into being like,
did you hear how many people were at Summer Slam.
It's like, I don't care how many people are at
Summer Slam. It's good for you. You guys should care. It's
your business. But why are you telling me? Why are
you like now, I'm just going, Yeah, it's gonna be
expensive and I'm gonna have to buy ESPN streaming. Like
they try to like trick us into like thinking that
(13:38):
this is some like that we would be businessmen. We're
not businessmen. We're wrestling fans. Yeah, that's what we are.
I'm a wrestling fan. Next up was the why It's
Six versus the Street profits tell us what you thought, Freddie.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
I didn't love it, man, I didn't love it, and
I like the people in the match. It's just like
sometimes you see a movie, right and you go because
you like the two actors, and then you watch the
movie and you don't really connect with what's going on
because the two actors just didn't have chemistry. They're both good,
you liked them separately in other films, you've liked them
(14:20):
with other actors opposite them, but with this it didn't work.
Like I'm old, so like not everyone's gonna get this analogy.
But like Billy Crystal and Meg Ryan, they were in
a movie called When Harry Met Sally, loved the chemistry,
thought that was great. She did another series of movies
with Tom Hanks, loved the chemistry, thought they were great.
Then she did a movie with Russell Crowe. No chemistry.
(14:43):
Now a part of that was because and this is
public information, I think they were sleeping together.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
They say, God gives them some chemistry.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
No, it does the opposite, because all the tension then
goes away because you've already had a smooch, so there
is no tension between the characters. It's and the director
spoke about this and it was very like frustrat about
it. It spoke about it in an interview, So I'm not
like spelling beans or anything like that. But yeah, so
it just felt like the chemistry wasn't quite there. There
were a lot of like long delays and spots for
me that kind of like took me. I was like, wait,
(15:11):
what's going on? Is someone hurt? Like what are they doing?
That happened a couple of times, and it happened in
more than one match. Like I said at the top
of the show, it wasn't my favorite, my favorite pla
of the year by any by any stretch. But yeah,
this one didn't click for me. And I don't know
what to do with the Wide six Man. Their characters
are supernatural and they're existing in a world that's natural,
and I'm not seeing the line get blurred. I'm just
(15:34):
seeing two separate worlds try to play without acknowledging the other.
And it just is just not It's not clicking for me.
It hasn't clicked for me from day one, outside of
the debut. The debut which got a little crazy because
they there was like a bullet hole in one of
their wrestler's heads and then he was fine the next
week if I remember correct killed the guy. Yeah, they
(15:55):
killed the guy and then he came back. But it
hasn't I like the characters. I like supernatural stuff for sure.
I love horror movies. I loved Bray, I loved Undertaker,
I loved Kine, Like these are all like horror type characters.
But this just hasn't clicked with me from day one,
and I don't know if it's gonna Jeff, I don't
making them champions I think was the wrong choice because
(16:15):
I don't think they need a belt. And now it's
like they're trying to be mainstream even though they're supernatural,
because they're representing the company as champions. So it's just
all weird to me, and it doesn't seem like it's
it's it's thought through in a way that I can
grab on to. Maybe other people are loving it because
people still love the White Six. I'm just not loving
the story. What about what is?
Speaker 2 (16:37):
So if you're a writer and you're in the writer room,
they go, Freddie, you're an actor, you're a Halloween guy,
you love horror stuff. How do we fix this? What? Like,
you know what, I agree with your criticism, but what's
your would you have a solution for it?
Speaker 1 (16:53):
You have to have a mouthpiece.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
That can effectively execute the message of the whys, and
they have to be really really strong on the mic
they don't have to be a great wrestler. They're just
a mouthpiece, right. It could have been a manager, although
it'd be weird to manage a supernatural group. So it
has to be one of the group. And Bo has
his thing, but his thing is this is this Uncle
(17:18):
Howdie character, which is a very specific point of view,
which I don't think is mainstream enough to grab onto.
So maybe it's somebody else has to be the voice
of them, and you let Bo wrestle more. I mean,
he can talk a little on the mic, but you
give somebody else. And again I've mentioned this before, like
maybe you bring in someone like Alexa Bliss, but she's
(17:39):
doing something completely different right now, so that wouldn't make
sense either. So I'm not trying to dump on them
without a solution. But I don't have a solution because
I don't click. I don't click with the Wyat six man.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
I just don't.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
I just don't get it.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
I liked this. I'll talk about the match first. I
thought the match was fun. I loved that they came
down in the video game stuff. Oh the Borderland Masks, Yeah,
that was where the Land Masks were awesome. I thought
that was really good too a fun way, so like
we all not we. When I say we, I mean
wrestling fans often complain about, you know, the product placements.
(18:12):
You know, why does it say slim gyms on the tables?
Why does it have a prime table? Why? Why is
you know, like there could be some criticism when when
you realize every inch of your product has been sold
to advertisers. I thought this was a really creative way
to do it in a way that was cool. I
loved the masks. I thought they looked awesome. They didn't
go cheap on it, like it looked really cool, and
the street profits looked awesome. The match was great. I
(18:34):
thought the match was awesome. Also, I agree there was
no chemistry in the story of this. I think this
was like a last minute, thrown together thing. But it
still was like at least a good wrestling match, which
I appreciated. But I think the problem with it, in
my opinion, is like Joe Gacy and Dexter Loomis are
pretty I don't know how to describe. They're not like
(18:56):
a list stars, like if you went around and said,
you know, he had a picture of Huscus the Pig
Boy and Mercy the Buzzard and you said, who plays
these guys? I bet you have. The people in the
wrestling audience can't even name those wrestlers, and it's kind
of able to name the characters that you just named
so well. I think that that's kind of the problem
with Why at six Too, is like we're kind of
(19:17):
forgetting that Bo Dallas and and Nikki Kross and and
Eric Rowan his entire career, no disrespect, but dexter Looms
and Joe Gacy are all climbing. They're all trying to
be bigger stars. So you really have a giant faction
of people that aren't really there yet as far as
like over the Carecrows. Yeah, yeah, like people just like
(19:38):
I think they're all great wrestlers and they're all cool
looking and they make a great group, especially if you're
buying a shirt or a poster, but like when it
comes to like them as their own thing, like they're
not really there yet. They're not the A list. Got
so adding Alexa Bliss or adding some sort of something
they can put them over, Yeah, they need something. But
I think I think you're right. I think put the
(20:00):
belts on him was a mistake, But I think I
still believe in it because I love Halloween stuff. I
love this type of like dark kind of stuff. I
love Bray Wyatt, so like, I'm so in on Wyatt six,
But I don't know what fixes them. Maybe get them
feuding with a bunch of people that are similar in
(20:21):
their style, like Alistair Black could go back and forth
with Bo Dallas or you get our character.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Yeah, that's a good idea.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Get someone in that realm, or at least close to
that realm that can kind of put them, you know,
you know, like let them do their stuff a little
bit better. Also, I have an idea that they should use,
you know how Tony Storm whenever she's wrestling in aew
that it goes to black and white because she's doing
that character. I don't think that the Wyatt six should
(20:52):
ever ever ever be seen in full lighting. It should
always go dark, not fully dark, obviously it's a safe tissue,
but it should always like their paranormal activity is affecting.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
The light something.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
So when they come out, no matter what they come out,
whether it's Nicky Cross, whether it's Joe Gacy, no matter
who it is, that the lights should always go a
little less dark and everyone's like kind of like what's happening?
You know, Like it'd be like if Undertaker wrestled with
like so like it's his entrance, but then during the
match it's still like this kind of purply hated because
that will really be like that one match was different
(21:28):
than the other's and it was like kind of dark
in there, and like like they should keep that. It's
a very easy switch with led lights.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Nowadays, they need something, man, even if it was like
the way that it was viewed on the television where
it's like it looks like an old VHS tape even
when they're wrestling that like you rewound a million times,
Like just they need something to keep them magical because
once they break the barrier and they go into the ring,
they're just professional wrestlers, right, and they can't do supernatural
stuff in the ring, you know what I mean, Like
(21:56):
there's that doesn't exist. We all know that.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
So it's just tree dude, it's just tricky. I think
you're right.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Maybe they could just do it for the TV audience
just yeah, and the house shows excited to be there anyway. Yeah, something, Dode,
they need something. I think you're right. Next up, this
was the toughest match of the night. This was the
Icy title match, Becky Lynch versus Nicki Bella. This was
match was made after we recorded, so we didn't have
a prediction on this. The only prediction we had so
(22:22):
far was Roman and Brunson, and we all picked Roman,
so we were right on there and we made you money.
There was a big miss in this match, which took
a lot of people out of the moment.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
The story coming up was good. I like the Jimmy
Connors Wimbledon story. I like when the veteran is going
to go deep in a tournament and make a run.
They did it with Nigel McGinnis versus Zach Saber Junior,
and aw, they're doing it here with Nicky and Becky
in a match that had never been made before. They'd
never wrestled before, and you could tell. And I like
both these girls a lot, But this match just didn't.
(22:54):
It just didn't play man and I don't know what
it was. The crowd did not want Nicki. They wanted Becky,
even though Becky was the heel and Nicky was the
baby face. So the whole energy of the match switched
right away because they were booing nicky and cheering Becky.
Maybe that's what threw threw it off and and messed
up the chemistry. It just didn't it didn't play for
me and I, so you know, it was it was
(23:15):
what it was. Becky has a moment later in the
night that that uh, that saved it, but this match
what didn't didn't play that that strong for me unfortunately.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yeah, this was tough. It was. It was I don't
know how to talk about it without seeming disrespectful, but
just the whole match was kind of clunky.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
It was.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
It was very like I bought into it more than
most people. When they were doing their back and forth
with crowd work. I was like, all right, this is good,
this maybe it could be good. But when it came
down to just the pound for pound wrestling and the thing,
I was like, I was it was. It was hard
for me to not come out of it like I
wasn't in it anymore. I was going, geez, these these
(23:54):
hits are very theatrical, like you know when you when
your friend watches wrestling that doesn't like wrestling, Who's like
this crap's fake, and you're like, then you have to
like defend wrestling and be like, oh yeah, I know,
but it's fun, like they're telling a story.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
I was.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
I became that friend. I was like, this is terrible
like that that move right there. So I'm not trying
to be too hard. Also, I just think Becky's more
superior than the than the IC title. I know she's
bringing the title up because you know, yes, but but
I still see it as like a slight to her almost.
I'm like, why is she in the icy you know thing?
(24:29):
And she's doing great things with that belt and for
that belt, but I think she's better than that. I
think she's also better than having to do this match.
And it was it was just not It was not great,
is all I'm going to say.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Next step, I lost you guys some money, but Jeff
and Alex made you money if you didn't listen to me.
The Donnybrook match, it was Seamus's match. How do you
lose your own match? Seamous? But he did russef submitted
him with the damn acolyte or accolade whatever it's called,
and a sale not cool, brutal match. Super creative did
(25:11):
his white noise. I think it's cold where he's got
him on his back. He did it like off a
giant whiskey barrel into a frigging tables.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Always cool. I love him.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Seamus just actually beats people up and lets people actually
beat him up so it looks like a real fight
because it is so. I love his matches. He calls
him bangers and it certainly was. But again I got
the finish wrong. I believed in you, Shamous. You let
me down man, and Russev got the win. So we'll
see what's next for Russev. It doesn't matter what's next
(25:40):
for Seamous. He's always going to be beloved and uh
and cared for. The crowd loves him and all his
matches are fun. So so yeah, that was my thoughts. Nice,
easy one to talk about, tons of fun, brutal. Wish
there was blood because now I'm in a w siico,
but it was still fun. And shout out to Logan Paul.
He had a little nose bleed.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
That was cool.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Anyway ahead, Jeff, I was.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Going to say that just I liked that they used
all the parts of the set. So it's like they
brought out like a little like Irish pub bar instead
of the prime table, and then they had like these
big whiskey barrels set up, and I thought it was
just for looks. I was like, oh that's cool. Instead
of the prime table being a prime table for this,
it's a little it's a little bar, which is kind
(26:22):
of cool because these are these guys are kind of
representing the other countries. You know, he got Russoff and
he got Seamus, and we're in France, but you know,
all these other places kind of represented. And then they
went through all that stuff. They slammed. You know, Seamus
got slammed through that little bar, and then Russef got
slammed through the tables off of those whiskey barrels. I mean,
I really liked that they used all that stuff. I
(26:44):
love Russof and I love Seamus. I was kind of
confused on how they led up to this match. The
story leading up to this match was kind of old
school and strange, but the match itself was awesome. And
here I am this is classic Jeff my entire life.
I've done it on this podcast a million times. I
think he was actually hurt when he was giving him
the thing, like when he was doing his final move,
(27:05):
Like I feel like Seamus was like all right, all right,
that's like I think it was kind of like very
uncomfortable for him, so funny, and he was like kind
of hey man, the match is over. It was it
was what I feel like. I feel like he was
gone out. Dude, that sucks what you're doing. But it
was great. I thought the match was cool and I
love both those guys, and they really commit to it,
like you said, like you can see them swelling up
(27:28):
and getting marked and bleeding and like banged up elbows
and you can see like little wounds forming on them
during the match, which really keeps me in it.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
Which that's all seamous matches because he's so white, like
he bruises so awesome, like everywhere on his body. This
looks great, dude, you'll see it all right. Next up,
Scena versus Logan pol would have been would have been
match of the night, but the main event I think
took it Logan. Paul can wrestle his butt off. John
Cena called the match. You can obviously see and hear
(27:59):
him call his matches, but he called a great He
called a great match. He's like a catcher working with
a young pitcher. That's like the baseball analogy that I
could equate it to like the veteran catcher who's like
calling the game and the young pitchers really throwing some
good heat and controlling what he's doing.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
You know.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
The build up for this was tricky for me because
I think Scene is a lot better on the mic
than Logan is right now. I'd love to see Logan
have somebody speak for him and protect him a little
bit on the microphone. He gets a little tight and
nervous up there, but when he's in the ring wrestling man,
he wrestles free as hell and gives a really solid match,
a really fun match, every single time. I don't know
(28:35):
how much is coming from his head and how much
is Hurricane Helms, because I think that's the guy that
works with him, but the most shout out Shane Helms
and seen as John Cena. Man, he's just badass and
he sells like crazy, and he needs the crowd's energy
to get him up, so they sing him a French song. Jeff,
I don't know what the words were, but I think
it was we want Freddy. Yeah, that's what I heard.
(28:56):
That's what I think. I didn't take French, but I'm
pretty sure, man, I watched a Sophie Marsaul movie because
she was hot back in the day and so my
French is pretty tight. But yeah, man, really fun match. All.
I picked John Cena. We all picked John Cena. You
all picked John Cena because you knew he wasn't gonna
lose that match, especially with brock lesnar around the corner.
He's got to have a win under his belt. So
(29:17):
we made you money on this one as well. Had
a ton of fun watching it, what about you, sir.
We got to give Logan Paul his flowers. He's so good.
He's so good.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
He was hamming it up so over the top and
it played. It worked because he's just such a little
jerky in that, which is exactly what you want. The
way he's doing it, it's like he's really I don't
know if he's doing it on purpose, but it's got
a very classic kind of heel to it, like it
has like an old school heel to it, which I
(29:47):
really really really like. Sna crushed it. Man gave us
everything we wanted. Hurri Can ron A code red styles, clash, angels, wings,
gave us the five knuckles shuffle or whatever it's called.
He literally was classic scene for those fans and for
us at home, and then he also like was hustling,
like he was like he still got everything, like you
(30:07):
still got a chance. Never been more true for John Cena.
He's he's a star. It literally was. It was fun
to watch him realize, oh, yeah, this is the last
time I'll be in Paris in wrestling, which, by the way,
I'll say it again, wrestlers never retire. Scene will be
back in like two years at Royal Rumble or something.
You never maybe he'll be the first to have a
(30:27):
real retirement. Maybe he'll still be in wrestling. He'll still
show up to promote a movie. He'll still show up.
We're never gonna really lose him. But anyways, he he
was great. It was very very fun to watch. It
really was. I know John Cena won, but he's still
put Logan over like you don't need to. Totally. It
was a great match, and I thought also, I thought,
(30:50):
I thought the whole thing was awesome.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
We're getting ready to close it out here, getting near
the end. We got the World Heavyweight Championship match seth rawlins.
The champion came out out looking smooth, not too ridiculous.
It was like superstar rock star. Not normal clothes, but
not you know, the wicked Witch of the North coming
into all white or some goofy thing with a you know,
(31:13):
head piece and all that. He came in pretty normal,
pretty normal, So respect on the clothes. We all picked
Seth to retain. This was the easiest call the night.
You know, way is he going to lose? You don't
put Paul Hayman and those two guys with him so
he can lose the match, especially if Bronson's going to
lose the opener. The vision still has to look good
at the end, So easy pick. We made you cash
on this one. But that's not the story of the match.
(31:34):
The story of the match is cm Punk and Seth rawlins.
We knew LA and Knight wasn't going to get it.
We knew jay Usso wasn't going to get it. Hell,
he got beat up and hurt by Brown before the
match even started, but he.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Gave a valuet effort.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
La Knight and cmpunk will have a future storyline together,
I believe. But in this match, it comes down to
Seth and cm Punk and cmpunk hits the go to
sleep and Seth bounces off the ropes and lands right
on a tired and exhaust did see him punk shoulders
while he's on.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
His knees and he laughs.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
He's like, I can't believe you landed right in the
same position to take another go to sleep. And he
stands up and he starts talking to the crowd. I
don't know what he said. It's probably in French. And
he said bone soiea me That means goodbye, my friend.
And then Becky Lynch said hell no and busted him
(32:23):
right in his nuts. And you're like, Freddie, how'd you
know was Becky Lynch?
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Well?
Speaker 3 (32:25):
I didn't and neither did you, because it was a ninja.
And then when the ninja took off their mask, it
revealed themselves to be the Intercontinental champion. Becky Lynch, the
wife of Seth Rawlin. She protected her man because she
is the man, and she's willing to punch nuts to
prove it.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
So, yeah, so a while to take that mask off too,
take a little while. Oh my god, she forgot how
she put it on. She was like, I'm just pulling
off the mask off. I knew it was before the
mask came off. I go, I think it's Becky. Maybe
I don't know a small body.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Yeah, you could tell it was a girl for sure.
If it's a girl, it's going to be Becky. But
we're saying it was a ninja. Come on, so this ninja,
this little ninja came this cute little ninja came in,
punches him right in the nuts, not so cute, reveals
herself to be Becky Lynch. And then they talked ship
to jelly Roll and to and I like jelly Roll
now because he did the job and lost his match,
(33:16):
So why are you talking shit to somebody that's cool?
Speaker 2 (33:18):
And I liked talking to jelly Roll.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
She was like, your music sucks. This is why you
play this is how you play music. Oh she was
talking mad ship. She's like, my impression sounds better than
your music.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Like she.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Oh no, she hated him and his teeth and uh.
And then she talks some ship to post Malone and
said his music sucks too. She went off with her
husband and he said, let's go back to the hotel, baby,
And that was the end of the night. And then
Biggie drops the biggest internet bombshell ever and he goes,
you know what could happen if it's seth and Becky
(33:55):
it could be CM Punk and aj Lee and the
other announcer's been crazy and the whole internet went crazy,
and someone in creative went, God, damn it, that's what
we were gonna do.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
What fuck shit?
Speaker 2 (34:09):
I got to do better at keeping secrets in twenty
I don't.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Think he knew. I think he was just speculating.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Yeah, in twenty twenty four, you were fine not keeping secrets,
But this is twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
What's just like, that's the whole thing. The only reason
we like something is because it's a surprise. A joke
ain't not anymore. Spoil the punchline, and a story ain't
good if everyone spoils the ending. It's like, hey, have
you heard the joke where the end is? Uh?
Speaker 3 (34:33):
The chicken has to get to the other side? Have
you heard that one? All right, let me tell you
this joke. So why, Oh, you're right? No, I think
you're right.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Se Yeah, Well, whenever there's a wrestler returning, let him return.
Don't don't show them pulling up to the arena and
getting out of the car for a shot like teasing it, and.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
Stop advertising that the surprises are going to be there.
To the house audience, like they start screaming the person's
name before the person and even comes out because you've
advertised it to sell that arena out.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Don't do that shit. Sorry I had to jump on it.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
No, I agree with That's exactly what I'm saying is
like all these wrestling fans are so into the product,
we love it so much that they're good at finding
stuff and they're good at guessing, like, oh, aj Lee's coming,
I saw a sign that said aj Lee and see
them punk pointed to it. Or so if they're already
this good and they're already good, then don't help them,
(35:26):
like like try to be more secretive. That's why that
seth Rawlins thing changed the changed the game overnight. That's
why Brockluster coming Back broke the internet. It's because they
weren't going rock Lessner two weeks from now, and you know,
like they it's just they just let it happen and
they kept it a secret and they didn't bring everyone
(35:47):
in on the on the thing. So I know that
our you know, our podcast, you know we're not like
a news breaking podcast, but we don't need to be.
And also like, you know, why why is Dave Meltzer
get to spoil everything before it happens. I don't understand
why it's allowed. Yeah, wreckers of shit, stop wrecking shit,
all right? Recap Jeff Brown Breaker instant main event credibility,
(36:12):
Gonna get a match with him in Roman when Roman's
done being a movie star. Russev gets the submission over Shamus,
elevates him to his next opponent and he can start
maybe chasing a title, like a mid card title, maybe
John Cena with a signature win in Europe and the
people still believe they love their baby face John Cena.
We're getting close to the end. We're getting close to
(36:33):
brock Lessner, so that'll be fun. And remember brock Lesner myrtalized.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
Him the last time they wrestled and beat him in
like thirty three seconds, So you know, John Cena's getting
the win back and it's gonna be a brutal match.
It'll be like thirty five minutes long, and he's gonna
actually beat the beast in Carnate.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
You better do you some sort of freak thing for
us to believe that brock would lose to John Cena.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
He's gonna aam like off a freaking balcony or something. Dude,
bring a gun to the match or something. He's gonna
hit them with a little slugger.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
What else?
Speaker 1 (37:02):
What else?
Speaker 3 (37:03):
We got rollins and punk very personal now could lead
to an intergender match, by the way, I'm.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Joking, that's never gonna happen. They hate those matches.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
Becky is she a part of the vision. We don't know.
It could be.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
The tag scene is weird to me? For the why
six keep the belts? The profits are They're going to
be doubt in their tag team. No, so, I don't
know where they're going, but that's pretty much it. We're
going to say goodbye to the Peacock pl E era.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
It is over.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
That was their final pl I think from now on
they're going to be on ESPN. If I'm wrong about that,
I apologize. That's our show. Paris delivered a classic. There
was emotion, there was violence and the kind of angles
that cook you for weeks.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
I didn't say that. Our producer Alex.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
Said that also tomorrow or whenever you like to listen
to Unsanctioned stay tuned for that. We're going to get
into two new stuff on that episode. I'm not going
to tell you what we're gonna do. You just gotta
watch because sometime as we talk about whatever we want,
and if I advertise it, I might not do it.
But thank you for listening. On Bath of Jeff, I'm Freddie.
We love you guys.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Thanks for listening. We'll be here next week to peace
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