August 12, 2025 • 58 mins
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Don’t have time to watch every Alien film in preparation for Alien: Earth? Not to worry! Jason and Rosie recap every Alien movie in the franchise in fictional chronological order, from the numerous crossovers with Predator to the Ripley/Xenomorph clone in Alien Resurrection.
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Speaker 1 (00:15):
Hello, I'm Rosie Knight, and welcome back to the x
Ray Vision the podcast Store. We dive deep into your
favorite shows, movies, comics, and pop culture.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
We're here iHeart podcasts.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Where where we bring in you episodes every Tuesday and Thursday,
the summer's biggest movies every.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Friday, and news on Saturday.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
In today's episode, we are re releasing a classic episode.
Last year, when Alien Romulus arrived in theaters, we did
speed recaps of the entire franchise, but with Alien Earth
around the corner, we thought everyone could use a quick
refresher course, so enjoy this classic episode.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
So here we go, Alien Franchise recap in chronological order.
Speaker 5 (00:58):
Wow, fictional chronological.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Order, chronological fictional honor, which is our favorite way to
do recap.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
We begin with nineteen nineties Predator two. That's right, Predator two.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Woo Wow. The crowd goes wild.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Okay, let's precede this by saying that both Jason and
I shed a deep love for this movie when we
with children.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
We love this movie, but it is.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
A very problematic movie when you watch it again.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Hid watching it in the modern day, there's it definitely
raises some red flags. We open in Los Angeles. The
year is nineteen ninety seven. Los Angeles is slightly faturistic.
The Los Angeles is racked by hyper violent gang violence
(01:49):
between two, yes, very racially problematic, depictions of Colombian and
Jamaican gangs that are at each other's necks end. This
violence attracts the attentions of a predator who's like, oh,
I love violence.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
Yeah, these guys are killing each other.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
That I will kill the ones who are killing the
most because I'm a predator. That's what I love to
do is kill the most dangerous one.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
And yeah, and then I'll be like the best killer
in downtown LA specifically.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
So the alien, just.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
As racking up bodies, cuts a bloody swath through both
of these gangs. LAPD Officer Mike Harrigan played by Danny Glover.
Huh that, Glover, Why were you cost in this movie?
I don't know, but I love it. He is too
old for this shit in this movie.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
He does you don't want to be able.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
To ashier suits in this than you would expect from
the Lethal Weapons series.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Huh.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
So he's investigating the gang violence and he finds himself
in pursuit of the Predator, and of course nobody believes,
you know, he's getting all these reports, all this like
Invisible Killer.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
It's weird.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
It wasn't a man, it was a monster or whatever.
Towards the end of the film, as Harrogan is in
pursuit of this predator, the Predator goes to its ship
that it's hidden and as it you know, goes in
there to like restock on ammo et cetera, and like
treat its wounds, and we see among the Predator's trophies
(03:12):
is a xenomorph skull on the wall. And let me
tell you, in the pre internet era, when I saw
this as a kid and saw the alien style, I
was like, my mind literally exploded. But it's all I
could talk about.
Speaker 6 (03:29):
You don't understand the aliens exist in the Predator universe.
I've never heard of such a.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Cross this game. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Literally, I think for me this was probably also my
first crossover movie. And then I think the second one
was like I don't know, Frandy in Hell Freddie goes
to Hell and at.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
The end he pulls down I mean that.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
I think those are the two memories I have of like,
oh shit, like something's gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
So Harrigan kills the predator with its own like little weapon.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
It's the Frisbee weapon.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
And then a group of predators who I guess have
been like observing, appear and they take their fellow predators
corpse back with them to put it on the ship,
and they give Harrigan like an old like revolutionary war
pistol as.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
A good job. All right, do you peace?
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Next movie Alien Versus Predator two thousand and four.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
The year is a year is two thousand and four.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Charles Whaland played by Lance Henrickson that you played Bishop,
the synthetic humanoid Bishop in Aliens and other roles which
we will get to in the Alien franchise, is the
CEO of Whalen Industries, and he sends a crack team
of international scientists and mercenaries to a recently discovered pyramid
(05:00):
which is under the Antarctic ice. Now the pyramid turns
out to be a predator like hunting temple, and it
turns out.
Speaker 5 (05:09):
How do they build it?
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Because they're the space faring highly advanced hunters And it
turns out.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
They're just like SPC the predators. Now, it turns out.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
The predators taught human beings how to build pyramids because
I guess people couldn't like figure out the triangle shape.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Like they were like they were like, this is a
two complex. What wo baby, I barely just got the
wheel going. I don't know what's going.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
So predator culture apparently considers the xenomorph like the ultimate prey,
like the most dangerous thing you can hunt.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
Right, So every one.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Hundred years, the predator contestants come to Earth to hunt
xenomorphs specifically hatched from sacrificial human beings, and this alien
queen that they have like frozen in the pyramid. And
this is like the predator version of the Olympics, right,
It's a big deal. And the scientists and the mercenaries
get all caught up in this competition and they're like,
(06:11):
we have to help the predators win because the aliens
if they overrun, you know, the predators, they'll like wild
on Earth and just kill everybody or use them as
you know, egg hatching incubators. The predators give Arctic guide
Lex played by snal A than a spear is a
gift and after this is after the predators defeat the aliens, uh,
(06:33):
they then get in the ship with one of their
fallen comrades named Scar and they take off, and then.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
Soon after they take off, an.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Alien predator hybrid bursts from the dead predator's chest. Now
you would, after several centuries of dealing with these creatures,
that the predators would like X ray everybody that they designed.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
Take that does with that, I.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Feel like to make sure they don't really think, y
know what these things do.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
And you're still like, yeah, yeah, don't even check it.
Just bring it right on.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Just put him on the ship. He's fine. Definitely didn't
get that.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Brings us to two thousand and sevens Alien Predator Requiem,
which occurs in the same year as Alien vers Predat
two thousand and four, happens in fact immediately following the events.
So right after the predators get in their ship and
take off to fly back to their home planet, the
pret alien, which is now hatched, it grows at a
(07:36):
fantastic rate, as we often see that these creatures do,
and immediately fucking goes ham and it causes the predator
home ship to crash into Gunnis in Colorado. Ah, Yes,
Gunnis in Colorado's poor town doesn't know what it's in for.
The Xenomorphs then go fucking crazy and they start, you know,
reproducing using humans as hosts, going nuts. A Predator champion
(08:03):
back on the Predator homeworld gets the distress signal and
it's like, fuck this, I'm going there alone.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
If He's like, if you want to jump and I'm.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
Going to wipe out all the xenomorphs on Earth.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Now things get really chaotic and crazy, so much so
that the military like immediately gets involved and they decide,
we can't we can't let this spread any further. Let's
nuke gunnison, a thing you've seen in a million movie Outbreak, the.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
Blob, et cetera.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
So, but I think it's actually like quite a reasonable
thing to do in this particular case.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Jason's like, in this case.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
You go to do I feel like I feel like
they're they're not thinking about the fact that in the
canon of these kind of movies, if you nuke some creature,
it usually just becomes giant. So I would definitely be
thinking of the Godzilla potentials of the mutation, But I
still understand the intention.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
It's pretty like you must imagine like the president would
have had to have been briefed Sally, Okay, mister President.
So what we've got is a parasitic alien race species
that is reproducing very quickly, and they are also being
fought by a humanoid alien race of hunters. Are you
(09:27):
getting this, sir.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
To alien species you didn't know about until this.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
The military nukes Gunisen, killing the predator and the Xenomorphs.
The Predator's gun is then gifted to miss Utani, who
does not have a first name in the movie, who
is the CEO of a Japanese cybernetics and robotics company,
the Utani Corporations. Now we have Wayland and Utani in
(09:52):
the universe.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Dude, I have to say the movies that are essentially
like so derived.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
Both these movies are dumb.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Try to enjoy they are like so dumb, it's so funny,
how dedicated they have to.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Say they worked really hard, Like can't casting LANDA Hendrickson, Yeah,
I got you know, being like and they're like, we're
gonna make cannon manly, You're gonna kid, You're.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Gonna care about this.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
People will be talking about this, and it's like, people,
these movies are so dumb, but I gotta they command
really hard to every single movie having a twist ending
that is somehow connectically in law.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
These reveals do have an interesting effect on the overall cannon,
which we will discuss as we get there. Next up
twenty twelve's Prometheus, The year is twenty eighty nine. Archaeologist
Elizabeth Shaw and her boyfriend Charlie discover that many ancient
human cultures have a very similar foundational myth that involves
(10:51):
very tall aliens from a distant star system. And these
tall aliens are the engineers who I guess, so life
across the galaxy or something. Peter Whyland, who is very
very very very very old and about to die, Like
any second he's about to die.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
He is about to go. It's happening as his.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
Like video recording is being played to this science team
that he's put together. He's like, I'm not by the
time you watch this, I'm gone. So hes an ambitious
mission to a moon in that particular star system that
they matched to the cave paintings and different pieces of
(11:36):
art from all those human cultures, and so they're going
to this moon called LVY two twenty three because he
thinks the engineers are there, and mister Whaland wants the
engineers to tell him how he can like avoid dying,
which is such a fucking come.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
On, just assassin thing to do.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Like, so many of the decisions in these movies are
so terrible, And it's really funny because once we you know,
we are doing this in fictional chronological order. So at
this point, by the time you get to Prometheus, the
movie is essentially like an MCU filled easter egg for
the previous alien movies that were released. But at this
point chronologically you're just like, my friend, what are you doing,
(12:18):
Like you have to spend this much money, I'm sure
you could just find.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
A sign to do this instead of going in the
real world.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
PayPal founder Peter Thiel, you know, investor in tech and
all around right wing nut job, has It's been credibly
reported that he injects himself with like the human blood
of like young healthy people.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
So yeah, yeah, you.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Know they're doing crazy in the real world.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
So yeah, okay.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
The journey take to LV two twenty three takes them
four years. They're in cryo sleep the whole time. Cash
While they're in cryo sleep, they're watched over by David,
who is a synthetic a humanoid that was designed by
mister Whyland. On LV two twenty three, the team finds
like a ton of artifacts from the engineers, including all
(13:11):
these jars of like black goo that turns out to
be a bio weapon. David takes like a drop played
very creepily by Michael Fastbat takes a drop of the
black goo, and he infects Charlie with it. Charlie then
has sex with Elizabeth and impregnates her unknowingly with this
(13:32):
very fast growing alien fetus, just as David wanted. She asks, yeah,
as it's growing, like she's in more and more physical distress,
and they do a scan and he's like says, very.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
Creepy, oh, you've got this alien in you.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
And she's like, well, let's get it out. And he's like, well,
we don't have the stuff, we don't have any way
to do that here, and we yeah, yeah, yeah, Bat,
let's just seeze you take you home.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Okay, seems like nothing.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Very Elizabeth breaks into Charlie's thron's cabin on the ship
and uses her advanced like medical machine of which only
a dozen were made, and she does like an abortion
on herself, removing this like wriggling squid like alien. It's
really gross, it's really great super so can we just
(14:20):
say you mentioned Shaly's there on This movie has like
a wild cast is Yourselba Charlie's then Michael Fastbender, like
Wembridley Scott said he was coming back the original director
of Alien.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Everyone was like, I'm jumping on that ship. Like there's
some very.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Iconic images from this movie, like Idris Alba smoking a
Christmas tree that I feel actually have almost more longevity
than the movie.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
It did inspire many important memes.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
So we learned that LV two twenty three was an
engineer like bioweapon facility. They were making this bioweapon and
that they had planned to release it on Earth. Non
canon sources, namely Ridley Scott, who directed this film, says
that in his mind, they wanted to send the goo.
(15:08):
They made the decision to send the good to Earth
like two thousand years ago, and it was because the
humans had killed their emissary, the engineer emissary that sent
to Earth to tell them to like chill out and
stop being so violent, and that was Jesus. So Jesus
was an engineer, but then he didn't really put it
in so that credible kind of like the under that's
(15:30):
the subtext, man, that's straight from Ridley Scott.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
The movie is very heavily invested in the religious and God,
and part of the reason that Elizabeth even goes on
it is just because she's religious and she wants to meet God.
She wants to understand faith and where she comes from.
That is incredible and I had no idea that was
part of the canon, So thank you for that one,
Ridley Scott and Jason.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
And now we mentioned that mister Oylan was like really
really old and about to die, and by the time
they land on LVT twenty three, everybody thought he was dead,
but surprise, he's actually alive, and David goes to get
him from wherever he was high.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
He was like hiding in the in the ship the
whole time.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
He had like a secret a secret.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
False bottom, like in a desk or something.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
So they get him out and David, you know, goes
with him, and Charlie's then sorry, Meredith Vickers, I'll call
it very character name. And Elizabeth and I go to
the engineership and then David wakes up an engineer and
he can talk to them because he's been studying proto
into a European this ancient language, and so he translates
(16:37):
for mister Whyland and basically says, hey, I know we
just woke you up, but like my boss wants to
know how he cannot die. And the engineer is like,
you came all the way here for this, and he
goes crazy. He rips David's head off. He's so pissed off,
He's like that, he rips.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
David's head off.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
He bashes mister Whyland in the head with David's head,
and then you know, it goes. He tries to take off,
but Elizabeth, you know, radios to Adris Elba and is like,
we need to crash the ship or else, like he's
gonna send the Black pep to Earth. The ship crashes.
Now the engineer is like chasing Elizabeth. It chases her
(17:18):
through the human ship, where all of a sudden, Elizabeth's
xenomorph baby that looks like now like a huge squid yeah,
math subdues the engineer and impregnates it, like puts its
like egg overpositor into the Engineer's mouth, which is like
super super gross. Elizabeth then recovers David's head and body
(17:40):
and is like, hey, I want to go to the
engineer Homeworld.
Speaker 5 (17:43):
I need answers.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
I want to find out why they're going to wipe
out humanity with the black Goo, and will you take me?
And David's like, you know what, fuck it, let's do it.
After this a xenomore, not a full alien as we
know from like alien and Aliens, but like more kind
(18:05):
of like certainly one that looks like right, it's getting there.
It bursts out of the Engineer's chest. Uh, and then
later off this is kind of like this is not
in the movie, but it's part of like the Off
Cannon and other fictional materials. Whaland Industries goes bankrupt because
(18:26):
mister Whalen put all his money. They flopped that to
just Coromedia's mission, and it is then acquired by the
Utani Corporation, creating the Whaland Utani Corporation that brings us
to Alien Covenant. The year is twenty one oh four.
The Whaland Utani ship Covenant, carrying several thousand Space Columnists,
(18:47):
is on its way to Orgie six Walter and Advanced
Synth using the David format, but with all of David's
like creative abilities that human beings found like really just
concerning removed manages things during the long cryo sleep of
the crew and all the colonists. But then tragedy strikes.
(19:08):
There's this neutrino burst and Walt tries to wake everybody
up to get them out of their tubes because the
ship is damaged, but Captain James Franco sadly dies in
his cryo tube.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Rip to that captain, rip to him.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Now, the crew while it's fixing the ship, gets a
distress signal from a nearby planet called Planet four, and
the new captain, Captain Orum, is like, let's go investigate.
So they investigate and they find out that this distress signal,
which came in the form of take Me Home, Country
Roads by John Denver in Christ, is from a planet
(19:44):
Planet four that is like completely like earthlike it can
it's got like water. They live there, and so the
whole crew is like, you know what, we just saw
the captain like get burned alive in his tube. Nobody
wants to get back for seven years. What if this
is the answer to all our problems? We just like
(20:05):
do this, We just like stay here. Daniels, who is
James Franco's widow now and is the second in command
is like, wait, wait, wait, it seems a little too perfect,
doesn't it, Like why didn't we ever we do all
these scans, which is how we found six, but now
there's this closer planet and we never saw it, and
it's like perfect, Like this doesn't seem any weird anybody,
(20:28):
And everybody's like shut up, no. So they go to
investigation and these are the dumbest fucking scientists ever. So
they go down to investigate this earth like planet and
they go with like literally no ppe, no helmets, no breathers,
nothing that we can just bring. Well, I guess they're
(20:49):
just like sitting on stuff and touching things and like
you don't see them drink the water, but they might
as well be, because they're just like breathing the error.
They're raw dogging this fucking planet and shocking Goose because
what they get infected by like sports the black goo, right,
And of course they then become hosts for xeno Morphs.
(21:14):
By the way, we also see that this there's a
city here and it's full of like dead engineers. This
is like the engineer home World. So one of the
infected team members gets taken back aboard the ship the covenant,
which is crazy. You just bring him back on he's
got he's sick with Why would you.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Do it every time? They are not following.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
It's kind of like just keep him in quarantine. They
were not prepared whoever put together this team of colonists,
and they were not prepared to be colonizing the.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
Rest of the group like remains on the planet's surface
with another infected guy. They then get attacked by the
xeno morphs that were one of which was born from
the infected person. But then they're saved by David Damon's
here dun dum.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
It turns out he's.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
David wiped out all the engineers by like dropping their
black goo bombs on them, and he's spent all the time,
like whatever it is eleven years later or something, trying
to perfect the perfect zenomorph because he loves making things.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
He just loves this. You get some deeply wild moments.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
I remember sitting in the movie theater in Long Beach,
where I believe I went with people from my old
comic shop that used to be on the waterfront at
Long Beach, and we went there and there is like
a five minute scene in this movie where one of
the Michael Fassbenders is like playing yeah, and then they're
(22:43):
like gonna kiss and like it is legitimately one of
the weirdest movies. Jason's Fantastic Recap has always is just
zooming through this, making it seem far more action packed
than it is.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
This is like such a weirdly long.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Atmospheric like gothic movie, and the two micro fast mendez
are just having the wildest thought.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
So David then kills Walter in the scene that Rosie
was just talking about after the flute scene, basically tricks
him and like rips something out of his neck and
fucking drops him dead. But Walter is a significantly upgraded model,
and he like fixes himself somehow off camera and comes
back and he takes out David.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
Walter Daniels again.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
James Franco's widow then flee back to the Covenant ship,
but then it turns out that the xenomorph hatched out
of the sick guy that they brought him to the
fucking ship is now loose on the ship. So uh,
David Daniels and Danny McBride worked together to kill the alien. Hey,
(23:46):
and as Daniels is being put back into cryo sleep by.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
This bit is actually genuinely terrifying, and I still think
about how impact.
Speaker 5 (23:56):
This and is was fucking great.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
So Daniels has been put back into cry sleep by Walter,
and she says, hey, will you help me build my
log cabin earlier in the movie of building a log cabin,
and he doesn't get the reference, and she realizes with
horror that it's actually David, that's not Walter, and she
but she can't do anything now because the go to
sleep gases are filling the tube, and she goes to
(24:21):
fucking sleep. David then throws up to face huggers like
in little.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
Plastic cash pill capsules, puts.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Them in the human embryo freezer, and then radio's mission
control back on Earth and says, hey, sorry, everybody died
and I'm trying to carry out the machine on my own.
We'll be back in just a moment after a word
from our friends at whalen Utani. Whalen Utani making the
galaxy better, and we're back.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
That brings us too.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Yeah, Alien nineteen seventy nine's Alien. The movie that's started
all the year is twenty one twenty two The Wayland
Utanni Mining ship Nostromo receives a distress signal from planet
LV four twenty six. They go to investigate. They find
an alien ship. On the ship, there is a long
(25:28):
dead engineer still in a jump seat with like the
trademark burst out of its chest. A face hugger hatches
and attaches itself to the face of one of the
crew members named Kane, who is then taken back aboard
the ship by the fucking Captain Dallas played by Tom Scarrett.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
I will say this is.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
The most effective like breaking quarantine scene because Ripley Ellen Ripley,
played by Sigourney Weaver, the hero of the film, is
like you come, don't is like hard.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
No, She is the safety officer, don't you.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
Says I'm not letting you in.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
You have to be there for you have to stay
in quarantine for twenty four hours. But it's Ash the
who then turns out to be Sayna, a human who,
as we will later learn, has other motives, lets them
aboard anyway. They get a board, and it's horrific. You know,
everybody's horrified by this faceoger on Kane. But then eventually
the face oger lets go and dies and everything seems fine, Yeah,
(26:26):
until they're all having a wonderful dinner before going back
and cry to sleep, and Kine is all of a
sudden in immense distressed, and that happens the Xenomorph burst
out of his chest to general screen runs across the
horrifying moment.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Hilarious and certainly one of.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
The most just an iconic cinema moment.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Honestly, Yeah, this is still just like after watching all
these movies in this order, when you get here, the
pice's fautiful, the gorgeous set, the production design hr guyget
you can.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Just feel how tactile and.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Terrifying it really is compared to some of the more
modern versions.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
And this scene is still so iconic and so.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
Like this movie.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
Obviously there's some dated things about it, but overall seen
the scene, just like looking at them walking through hallways
and stuff, it looks as good as anything need today.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
It looks absolutely Yeah, and it's also a movie.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
About like working classes.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
Yeah, literally about work. It's about on the ship, like.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
It's about blue collar guys.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
It's so interesting in so many different ways that you
know this many years later still feel really relevant and cool.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
So the Zeno Mooreph quickly grows to this to the
size of a very large.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
Human being, and it begins.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
Off crewmembers one at a time, including the captain, who
volunteers himself to go like try and flush this thing
out of the air ducks because clearly he's feeling like
shit because this is all his fucking fault, like he
broke corts me.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Just listened.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
Now, Ripley discovers that Ash, the science officer, plans to
return to Earth with the Xenomorph and had in fact
been kind of directed to steer them towards this distress signal.
And because the company whyl and Utani that they all
work for, really, really really wants this xenomorph ip for
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like their weapons divisions, sure like their healthcare division, for
all sorts of divisions that they have under their banner.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
It really is a killing machine. And also, I want
to say this.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Is leads to another one of the most terrifying scenes
when Ash attacks Ripley.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
It's so simple, but I remember being so disconcerted. First
of all, I saw this scene. I was not allowed
to watch the movie. I was probably like five, and
my parents had it on VHS and they were watching it,
and I watched it from the top of the stairs.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
I watched the whole fucking thing.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
This scene really bothered me because there's something so weird
about the way he tries, like he rolls up a
magazine and tries to stuff it in her mouth, And
to this day, I've never seen somebody try to kill
somebody like that, and it really just really bothered me.
The imagery was so disturbing. Anyway, Ash tries to kill Ripley,
but then is stopped by the surviving crew members, and
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we discover that Ash is this synthetic human with like
milky blood.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Oh oh, so creepy.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Eventually it gets down to just Ripley because the alien
kills all these crew members. She and the ship cat
Jones said, the Stromo is self destuck, and they get
on a lifeboat and they launch and then Stromo explodes
and everything's fucking fine. No, it's not, because the alien
is hiding on the lifeboat.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
They're really smart, these aliens.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
They are very clever.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Ripley gets into a spacesuit, she opens the airlock, shoots
the alien in the chest with a harpoon, sending it
out of the airlock, and then when it tries to
crawl back onto the hull of the ship. It ends
up like inside one of the engines of the ship,
and she hits the thruster and it burns up, and
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then she goes in a cry of sleep at Jones
and everything is happily ever after, right.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Of course, normal problems. She escaped with the cat. That's
all she needed.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
That brings us to coming to a theater near you. Romulus,
set between the events of Alien and the next movie
in the series Aliens from nineteen eighty Aliens, Now Aliens
takes place in the year twenty one to seventy nine.
Ripley has been asleep for fifty seven years when she
is discovered by a salvage ship.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
She returns to Earth, but all hope of.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
Like restarting like a normal life are scuttled because her
credit score is absolutely fucking shit housed because whyland Utani
considers her financially liable unbelievable for the destruction of the
now Stroma, which she had to do, And she tries
to tell them, well, there's this fucking alien, there's a cenomorph.
It killed the whole crewude, and the shot whatever, We've
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never heard of anything like that.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Meanwhile, we know, yeah, what are you talking about?
Speaker 4 (31:25):
Utani company, And separately, both the Whyland and Utani sides
of the company have been aware, well aware of the
existence of xenomorphs, saying since the twentieth century, they've known about.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
It, they've been trying to make one.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Also, I just want to say, you know, this is
a huge change from Ridley Scott, the original director. Now
you've got James Cameron. That's two of the biggest directors
of all time. But I love that James Cameron respected
that this needed to at least begin by being a
movie about a blue collar worker getting fucked over by
a corporation. He was like, that part is really important,
even if the rest of the movie is going to
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be totally different. I just need people to know I
remember that that is what made that movie.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
And I have to say, you gotta love James Cameron
before the Avatar movies, before this complete CG revolution that
he undertook, because here's another movie with the production design,
the practical effects, the sets that looks so tactile and
real and lived in and it looks again, it looks
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as good as any movie that will come out like
it just looks fucking great. Anyway, when Wayland loses contact
with their colony, Hadley's Hope on LV four twenty six.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Why did they stock Alanya Guy? Well, I think they
knew it. I think they did that.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
Honestly, I think they did this.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
They did so they strong armed Ripley into going back
because she's the only person with experience with Xeno Morrison.
She's like, you'll be a consultant, and by the way,
you'll be completely safe because we're sending you with a
squad of heavily armed colonial marines. These these men and
women are fucking badasses. They're so buff and they go
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they're fucking professionals.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
There's nothing that can happen to them.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
They've kill, kill, kill, and there's nobody better Baby Galaxy
than them. Well, yes there is, because as soon as
they land, the aliens wipe out the fucking Marines like quick,
like ten minutes. There's only a handful of marines, and
this thrust Ripley, a surviving colonist, this little girl named Nude,
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and a rag tag of marines and one company hack
named Carter Burke into a struggle to survive. They come
up with a plan to nuke the There're just like,
let's get back on our ship.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
And fucking nuke. Like what you know, now, Company hack.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
Burke disagrees in Gunnissan Company hack Burke is like, now,
hold on, this installation holds a significant dollar value to
the stockholders, not to mention the potential gains to be
made from the alien ip They're like, shut the fuck up, bitch,
shut up where nuke.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
They're like, this is alway the problem.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
This is where the problem comes from. You're not taking
an alien home. It's not Jurassic Park.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
It's again, it must be said, they've been trying to
take an alien back to Earth for like one hundred
years at this point. Anyway, this so they ignore him
and they proceed with nuke from orbit plan, which requires
them to escape back to their ship. But the aliens
fucking go crazy. They kill Company Hack, Carter Burke, and
a bunch of others. Ripley eventually escapes with Newt and
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a bishop the new Synth played by Lance Henrickson, who
you know Ripley has been struggling to kind of trust
up until this time. Yeah, they get back on board
their ship and they are gonna nuke it from orbit,
but then guess what. It turns out that the alien
queen who Ripley had previously burned up all the eggs,
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all the alien face hugger eggs in front of the queen.
It made the queen super angry. Now she's so pissed.
She attached herself to their jump ship and like was
hiding in the wheel well and now she appears. She
tears Bishop in half. But then Ripley, in one of
the most iconic scenes in movies, Yeah legendary scene, puts
on a loader suit basically a mech suit and beats
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the shit out of the queen get away from Yeah bitch.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
How you bitch? Also just need to say, like, the
queen design is so sick.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
It's really hard to come from a movie like Alien
where you have someone's literal nightmares. In HL Guy Got
Coming to life as the xenomov, it shocked people. We
had no idea of what an alien could look like
before all that.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Before it had.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Always been the you know, the the Gray Men kind
of trope. And then to have to find a new
way to scare people in the new movie is.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
So well done.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Even though this is definitely more of an action than
a sci Fi horror. I do think the Queen design
goes down as like one of the most badass designs.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
And it must be said, Cameron has created two of
the greatest sequels of all time T two and Aliens. Ever,
you know, it's like Godfather too off T two Aliens.
That's like the triumvirate of the greatest sequels of all
time and James Cameron has made two of them.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
So yeah, Ripley Jettison's the Queen out into space.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
She puts Hicks into cryo sleep, she puts Nude into
cryo sleep, she puts herself into cryo sleep.
Speaker 5 (36:49):
And they won. That's it. That's it, We've won.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
We're going back to Thema problems. She's got a nice
little baby.
Speaker 7 (36:56):
Norm She's a kid likenw no young mute.
Speaker 4 (37:01):
That brings us to Alien three from nineteen ninety two.
The year is twenty one seventy.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Nine Dun Dun Dum.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
After a fire aboard the marine intergalactic ship causes the
lifeboat to be launched, which contains the cryo tubes of Hicks, Ripley, Newt,
and Bishop. The lifeboat then crashes on a prison planet
inhabited by all male inmates. Only Ripley survives no scratch.
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That a face hugger, a face hug that was aboard
the ship also survives. The face hugger then hug wild
one of the inmates dogs, and the dog quickly gives
birth to a really bad looking xenomorph alien hybrid.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Yeah, really ugly dog xenom off hybrid.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Okay, I just want to stop us that because in
one of the original scripts this movie was written like
four or five times before it was made.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
It was originally going to be.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
A cow instead of a dog, which I would have
loved to see.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Also, this movie is.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
One of my favorite almost movie scripts, which was the
original Alien three script was that it was going to
be set on a planet of monks and the planet
was entirely wooden, and inside the wooden planet were all
these tunnels, and you kind of get to see a
little Instead of monks, you get the prisoners who are
religious fanatics, and you get some of those tunnels still
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going through the prison planet. But it's not in any
way as wild as that would have been. This movie
had true production hell, it went through.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
And this is David Fincher's feature film debut. David Fincher
was by this time a very accomplished music video and
commercial director some really like iconic music videos for Madonna
and many many other notables, and did a lot of
ad campaigns for Levi's Nike, et cetera. But this is
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his first movie, and he has since he disowned the movie.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Yes, all three cups.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
He doesn't like the work print, he doesn't like the
theatrical print, he doesn't like the special edition, he said,
not for me.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
I find that also, this movie really feels like it.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
Was heavily influenced by like a French cinema at the time,
like the City of Lost Children.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
We Have Lost Children, kind of like the breakout film
of the director who directed Alien Resurrection, the next film
in it. Yeah, and it really feels to me like
this was influenced I agree with you by that by Delicatessen.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
It has this kind of weird it's incredibly.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
Monotone like the Yeah, it has like these monotone kind
of like and it's very slow compared to you know, Aliens.
And yes, the dog's animal hybrid is notoriously bad in
this and it actually has there's a very famous scene
with it's just hands and some black leather gloves and
they just come down on the screen and everyone's like,
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no human adds.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
CG for it, And this is nineteen ninety two, and
you know, by this point it's like the state of
the art for this kind of CG was again probably
T two and What's the James Cameron.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Which, by the way was also at the time the
most expensive underwater deep the Abyss.
Speaker 5 (40:14):
So you know, at this time.
Speaker 4 (40:15):
The state of the art for this kind of effects
was probably like T two and The Abyss, both by
James Cameron.
Speaker 5 (40:20):
By the way, the.
Speaker 8 (40:21):
Dog Allian Dog alias Let's go with them, they like
gave it this kind of green sheen, which I think
what they were intending to do was to make it
stand out from these very gray stone hallway backgrounds that stand.
Speaker 5 (40:39):
Out from the shadows.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
But the issue is it made it look completely not
realistic to the way light works.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Yeah, in any way, so it just looks anyway, I
will say as well. Another interesting thing I learned because
I watched this on laser disc, so I was like, oh,
maybe the laser disc lasion is a different cock because
I've seen many different cots of the Alien movie.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Because there were just so.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Many no, But what I did learn is that how
they did the CG on this so they could see
what it looked like was they would take a.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
Laser disc version of the dailies and then.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
Overlay the CIG on top of the movie to see
what it would look like.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Yeah, that's how they were making it.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
So laser disc actually a very important part of the
making of this movie. But yeah, it does look like
the CG was done with laser disc, so that did
not actually surprise me.
Speaker 5 (41:28):
Ripley forms a bond with Clemens.
Speaker 4 (41:30):
The prison doctor played by Charles Dance aka Tywon Lanister
Taiwan landis dog alien goes on a fucking hot streak
like killing Sbury. It's just kill Ay, kills the warden
while the warden is giving kills the warden while the
warden is giving like a speech about how no one
should be worried about like the people who've been dying
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recently in any rumor that there's like a dragon running
around they.
Speaker 5 (41:55):
Killing people's nature.
Speaker 4 (41:56):
The dog alien like reaches down from the fucking sea
and just like.
Speaker 5 (42:02):
Choose him up. But it doesn't kill Ripley because guess why.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
Huh, oh man, I wonder why it.
Speaker 4 (42:10):
With an alien the face hugger got her in the
oh Man so and so remember it bummed out about
this and she's like, well, I'm gonna kill myself.
Speaker 5 (42:20):
I want to die. And the inmates are.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
Like, Noah's more, you die.
Speaker 5 (42:24):
You have to help us beat this thing because you've
you've done it twice. Now we can't. We need you.
We need your help, you see, and then you can
kill yourself. And she's like okay.
Speaker 4 (42:35):
So that she comes up with a plant to like
lure it because they have no weapons on this prison facility,
lure it into it like a furnace facility that they
have where they can dump like molten metal on it
and kill it.
Speaker 5 (42:48):
And so they managed to do that.
Speaker 4 (42:49):
They dumped the molten metal on it and then just
like terminated too. They like spray it with water which
has this like rapid temperature shift and its it like shatters.
Okay again, just you think this must be one of
the things that bothers Fincher too.
Speaker 5 (43:05):
He's like, but they did.
Speaker 4 (43:06):
They did an interminator too, and then we're doing it
at the end of the So then Ripley is about
to jump in the furnace. Mission accomplished she wants wants
to kill this turns out she's an alien queen in
her chest. But then a whalen Utani rescue team arrives,
led by mister Bishop, the human creator of Bishop the Synth.
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He's glens Hendrick is back and there and whaling Utani
must be thinking, finally, this is it. We've got it,
We've it actually did it's We've been trying to do
this for two hundred years and now we finally got
a human with a with an alieness and it's an
alien queen. We've got to get this thing back to Earth.
Speaker 5 (43:48):
But it doesn't work.
Speaker 4 (43:50):
And even though mister Bishop is very very I might
have been persuaded by mister Bishop.
Speaker 5 (43:55):
He really puts the charm on. He's like, Ripley, what
are you? Don't you want to go Homely, it's gonna
be great.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
You think we couldn't be great. And then she's like
part of.
Speaker 5 (44:07):
The whale of you family like don't do.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
That, and she's like, well, my adopted daughter is dead
and I'm pregnant with the alien baby, so I'm just
gonna jump into this CG molten metal like.
Speaker 5 (44:19):
Jumps into the CG molten metal just.
Speaker 4 (44:21):
Like Jesus Christ just as the alien queen burst out
of her chest and she's like like a baby, and
they hit they hit the metal and they burn up
and that's it.
Speaker 5 (44:34):
Happily. Ever, after that's.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
It, we just have to take a break to go
and insert the alien eggs into our human sacrifices so
we can have xenomorphs ready for you after this.
Speaker 7 (44:45):
Message, and we're back.
Speaker 2 (45:06):
Finally, Ripley is free from the aliens. Nothing else could happen.
Speaker 5 (45:11):
Alien Resurrection nineteen ninety seven the year, but it's been
two hundred years, directed by Jean Pierre Jeunette.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
Still haven't done it. They still haven't.
Speaker 5 (45:22):
Directed by French weirdo Jean Pierre Jeanne of Omily fame
and the City of City of Lost Children, City of
Lost Children. Super weird, really fun movie.
Speaker 4 (45:33):
I'm not sure he was the correct choice for this film,
but regardless. Whalen Utani scientists a border ship named the
Ariga clone Ripley from a blood sample and they combine
it with xenomorphtine clone Ripley and then grows up to
like adult Ripley in a very short period of time.
Because you know how the aliens do that. They just
grow up and clone Ripley Ye super strong, has acid
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blood and also has a very weird psychic link to
the aliens. And also because I guess the xenomorphs have
like a genetic memory, they chair the memory of like
other I don't know how it works, but whatever. Ripley
also somehow she has memories of herself, but they're from
the perspective of the aliens that like fought.
Speaker 5 (46:20):
Her wild So are the aliens psychic? Like how do
they get the memory?
Speaker 2 (46:27):
I think maybe it's like a hive mind.
Speaker 5 (46:29):
This is very venerable.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
They all are experience. This is the next video essay
how Alien Resurrection shaped the.
Speaker 4 (46:41):
Okay, so mercenaries arrive on the Arega. They're here to
deliver prisoners. They are going to be used as incubators
for the alien eggs for to create more aliens. Evil
Annilie Call played by Winona Ryder decides like, Hey, this
is a really fucked up thing that's happening here. They're
using humans to get the aliens. And also the aliens
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are like a super weapon and if they get out
it would be really crazy.
Speaker 5 (47:06):
We can't let this happen.
Speaker 4 (47:07):
But of course, eventually the aliens escape from where they're
being researched, and actually this way, I thought, this is
kind of like my favorite part of the movie is like,
so they've got these two aliens, they're running tests on them,
and then the aliens can't get out because like every
time they approach the glass or approach the walls, like
they get shot with this like very very cold like gas.
And so one of the aliens, the aliens are really smart, guys,
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how often.
Speaker 5 (47:31):
Do we have to say it?
Speaker 4 (47:32):
They're like, wait a second, we have acid blood, and
they one of the aliens kills the other one who
just like lets itself get killed, and the blood builts
the floor and then it jumps through the floor and
gets out into the the facility. Now we should mention again,
whaleen U Tani has been researching these aliens for two centuries.
Speaker 2 (47:53):
They know about it acid blood. I feel like it
should be like having a guy the acid blood melts. Guys.
Speaker 4 (48:01):
You know about the acid blood.
Speaker 2 (48:03):
Really, you definitely know.
Speaker 4 (48:08):
A queen alien containing some of Ripley's human DNA gives
birth human like birth because it has like a uterus
like a human.
Speaker 5 (48:17):
To a almost funny looking human alien that looks like Rosie.
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (48:26):
Do you agree with me on this looks like Pumpkinhead.
I do agree Mkinhead from the titular villain from Pumpkinhead,
the film which also stars Aliens star Dun Dunn Lance Henrickson,
He's back. He's connected six degrees of Lance Ericksen in
the Alien universe.
Speaker 2 (48:46):
It does look like Pumpkinhead.
Speaker 1 (48:48):
They did not deliver the new cool alien design when
it came to that little guy. Also, I feel like
maybe this is one of those like weird social and constructs.
But I swear to God, like when I was a kid,
I thought when on a Ryder was like her door
or something in this movie, or her clothes or something,
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And then when I rewatched it, I was like, that
is definitely not what it's like.
Speaker 4 (49:14):
If you get fire five vibes from the mercenaries and
from like the design. That might be because Joss Whedon
wrote this terrible fucking script. This movie is like, it's
so bad, but it's the worst looking of the Alien
movies by far, at least Alien three. Every few years
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with Alien three.
Speaker 1 (49:37):
Hence why I own it on Bloomin Laser disc that
I just bought recently from Amba in La. It's like
every few years I reconsider it because there's it's like
a visual, there's a visual, a choice that David Fincher made.
It's very strange, it's very dreary, it's slow burn. It
has this weird religious kind of subtext to it.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
But it is, I have to say, sadly quite boring movie.
But at least it has vibes.
Speaker 1 (50:07):
Alien four Resurrection does not have vibes and does not
live up to a movie that has both Sigourney Weaver,
and it.
Speaker 4 (50:14):
Looks sadly like a very cheap film.
Speaker 5 (50:17):
It does not look expensive or good at all.
Speaker 4 (50:21):
It does have what I consider to be one of
the most iconic basketball scenes in movies in which the Mercenaries.
Speaker 2 (50:28):
This is the Mercenaries encounter with the cat super Ripley.
Speaker 5 (50:32):
So super Ripley.
Speaker 4 (50:32):
Again, Remember has the alien DNA, and she's like practicing
basketball and her game is like Peau Charles Barkley, like
she just like drives to the hoop of.
Speaker 5 (50:42):
Dunks, that's what he is.
Speaker 4 (50:45):
And then of course there's this really amazing shot where
she's like walking away from the basket and she shoots
a basket over her head and it goes in, and
she actually made that shot. That's like the take that's
in the movie is for actually making the.
Speaker 2 (51:00):
Show is so good you can't believe it.
Speaker 1 (51:03):
It's like that Catwoman scene with Michelle Biba where she
gets all the heads off with the whips.
Speaker 2 (51:09):
It's one of those things.
Speaker 1 (51:10):
Where it just becomes a legendary scene that you never
believe was done without cg And yeah it was Sigourney.
Speaker 2 (51:16):
Weave a continue you can go Queen and the.
Speaker 4 (51:19):
Queen go on YouTube and see like the outtake, it's
not an outtake, it's Ron Perlman like reacts the way
any person would react to that by just going, oh
my god. And he thought for a second that he
like hauld ruin the take because he says it like
right after it goes in, but there was enough space
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there for them to like cut anyway, Go watch it
on YouTube.
Speaker 5 (51:42):
It's really funny.
Speaker 2 (51:43):
It's very cool.
Speaker 5 (51:44):
So Ripley manages to.
Speaker 4 (51:47):
Launch the alien Queen into space by melting a window
with her acid blood.
Speaker 2 (51:53):
Of course again acid be.
Speaker 4 (51:55):
We should have thought about it, like we gotta ask
to prove this entire facility, the mercenaries and Ripley escape
the Orega, which crashes into Earth.
Speaker 5 (52:07):
Uh oh, but it does explode, so.
Speaker 4 (52:09):
Maybe, like all the aliens and alien research are fine.
And then the mercenaries are like, where should we go?
And then Ripley is like, you know, I don't know.
I'm like two weeks old. Yeah, I don't, like, I
don't know anything, and then the movie's over.
Speaker 5 (52:26):
The movie is so fucking dumb.
Speaker 2 (52:28):
It's so dumb.
Speaker 4 (52:31):
And that brings us to the chronological end of the
Alien Universe as we know it now again.
Speaker 5 (52:41):
Alien Romulus coming to theaters near you soon takes place.
Speaker 4 (52:45):
Between alien and aliens. So that'd be very interesting to see.
Speaker 2 (52:50):
Yes, very interesting.
Speaker 1 (52:52):
And it's Fetti Alvarez, who's like a don't Breathe the
Evil Dad remake. That man knows how to make a
scary movie. So I'm excited to see what happens.
Speaker 4 (53:01):
One question I have for you that I think is
listen this to your point, they did do a surprising
amount of like lore building in this specifically in like
the Alien Verse Presator Really why Yeah, The overall like
world building is quite spotty, Like there's a lot of
un answered questions and there's a lot of things that
don't line up. And here's one of my biggest ones,
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and we don't really ever get the answer. Why were
the engineers going to wipe out Earth other than the.
Speaker 2 (53:28):
Jesus in Jesus?
Speaker 1 (53:32):
Well, I do think you make a good point. I'm
sure that Ridley Scott was planning to make the Jesus
think canon.
Speaker 2 (53:37):
For some reason.
Speaker 1 (53:38):
These old directors from this error of action, they love Jesus.
Speaker 2 (53:43):
Poor Verhoven's the same, He loves Jesus.
Speaker 1 (53:46):
If you watch his very entertaining lesbian nonsplitation movie Benedetta.
It's about like a nun in eighteenth Centuary Rome, you know,
who begins having these visions. But when she has visions
of Jesus, she's having visions of like hunky like action,
start nuts, watchenegga Jesus. It's like some of the most
outrageous stuff. I don't know why they love Jesus, but
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why were they gonna wipe us out? Probably, you know,
some kind.
Speaker 2 (54:10):
Of like Godzilla esque.
Speaker 1 (54:12):
The engineers saw that we were destroying the Earth and
they decided the best thing to do, or they wanted
to terraform Earth and take it over and use it
as a breeding ground. For these aliens, which would become
like weapons if they wanted to take over other planets.
But I think Prometheus kind of messes us up because
Prometheus adds in the lore of like they are the creators,
(54:35):
they are where the god mythology comes from. So then
that takes on a lot of a heavier weight of
kind of why they would want to destroy us.
Speaker 4 (54:45):
I guess part of me wonders so that you find
out that the planet that they go to in Prometheus,
like or at least the supposition from our science friends
in the story, is that this is like a bioweapons facility,
So maybe like yeah, maybe it's like the two ingredients
of the weapon, like Earth is where the incubators are
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and then they have the actual weapon stuff. Honestly, that
would be the smartest way to do it, seeing how
violent this these this weapon is, is to like have
them separate and then combine them later at some other
place somewhere. Would they be fighting? Why would they need
this weapon? I guess that's the other thing, like who
were they scared of?
Speaker 5 (55:25):
Like the predators, but like.
Speaker 4 (55:27):
The prenators don't really feel like that's big a threat.
Speaker 1 (55:30):
To not really a formidable threat killing one engineer, like
the engineers could just like step up or like.
Speaker 5 (55:36):
Can they kill like one engineer years like big fucking deal. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (55:39):
Also as well, the Predators, I feel like that always
just willing to like team up with someone thanks to
the laylo, So I feel like the Energy Engineers could
have just been like, let's not be beefing, bro, Like,
let's just be cool. I won't make a bioweapon to
kill you if you just chill out a bit. But
you know what, that's the interesting thing. I've been thinking
a lot about prequels cause of House of the Dragon,
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which I believe is currently up there for me for
like one of the greatest prequels that we've ever gotten,
the way that the TV series decided to adapt Fire
and Blood. And actually, like, prequels are so complex because
you do start to build in or this law that
was never intended in the original films, you know, so
with Alien versus Predator in these movies that are so
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far away from really being connected to like the original Alien.
But because they start technically before you are watching a prequel,
and if you're a nerd like us, you can't help
connecting those things together. So you do start asking these
questions about how these things all connect.
Speaker 2 (56:40):
And I do still think with Alien.
Speaker 1 (56:43):
And Predator now both under the Disney banner after the
twentieth Century Fox acquisition, I do think that we will
probably get another Alien Predator movie in our time that
is more concerned with the Ridley Scott style law because
it's just such an enjoy ball match up.
Speaker 2 (57:01):
But you make a good.
Speaker 1 (57:02):
Point that, really, in general, the Predators, I think the
reason they focus on humans is because they're not actually
that good peoples, Like they could go to the engineers,
but instead they're like, oh, I'll just see what happens
if I kill a human, Like, I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (57:16):
That's so far?
Speaker 5 (57:16):
Are they?
Speaker 4 (57:17):
Like the predators trophies that they give like humans, it's
always like a flintlock, pistol, a spirit? Can I get
something from elsewhere in the get like give me an
alien weapon?
Speaker 2 (57:28):
Yeah? Could I have?
Speaker 5 (57:30):
I mean anyone?
Speaker 4 (57:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (57:31):
Like could I get something like a gun or something?
This is what they can fucking go to.
Speaker 4 (57:36):
But no, they dude, they don't want to give it
to you because then you could kill them.
Speaker 2 (57:40):
Because they're not that good.
Speaker 4 (57:42):
They gotta give you, like they're like, make sure you
give them weapon that's at least one hundred and fifty
years old, or he might be able to take us out.
Speaker 2 (57:48):
See and that's our show. Join us Thursday when we finally.
Speaker 1 (57:51):
Dive deep into the darkness of deep space.
Speaker 2 (57:56):
In Alien Up Episode.
Speaker 4 (57:58):
One by x ray Vision is hosted by Jason Concepcion
and Rosie Knight and is a production of iHeart Podcasts.
Speaker 1 (58:07):
Our executive producers are Joel Monique and Aaron Kaufman.
Speaker 5 (58:10):
Our supervising producer is Abu Zafar.
Speaker 1 (58:13):
Our producers are Common Laurent Dean Jonathan and Fay Wag.
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A theme song is by Brian Vasquez, with alternate theme
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Speaker 1 (58:21):
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Hello, I'm Rosie Knight, and welcome back to the x
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favorite shows, movies, comics, and pop culture.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
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Speaker 1 (00:25):
Where where we bring in you episodes every Tuesday and Thursday,
the summer's biggest movies every.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
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Speaker 3 (00:32):
In today's episode, we are re releasing a classic episode.
Last year, when Alien Romulus arrived in theaters, we did
speed recaps of the entire franchise, but with Alien Earth
around the corner, we thought everyone could use a quick
refresher course, so enjoy this classic episode.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
So here we go, Alien Franchise recap in chronological order.
Speaker 5 (00:58):
Wow, fictional chronological.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Order, chronological fictional honor, which is our favorite way to
do recap.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
We begin with nineteen nineties Predator two. That's right, Predator two.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Woo Wow. The crowd goes wild.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Okay, let's precede this by saying that both Jason and
I shed a deep love for this movie when we
with children.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
We love this movie, but it is.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
A very problematic movie when you watch it again.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Hid watching it in the modern day, there's it definitely
raises some red flags. We open in Los Angeles. The
year is nineteen ninety seven. Los Angeles is slightly faturistic.
The Los Angeles is racked by hyper violent gang violence
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between two, yes, very racially problematic, depictions of Colombian and
Jamaican gangs that are at each other's necks end. This
violence attracts the attentions of a predator who's like, oh,
I love violence.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
Yeah, these guys are killing each other.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
That I will kill the ones who are killing the
most because I'm a predator. That's what I love to
do is kill the most dangerous one.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
And yeah, and then I'll be like the best killer
in downtown LA specifically.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
So the alien, just.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
As racking up bodies, cuts a bloody swath through both
of these gangs. LAPD Officer Mike Harrigan played by Danny Glover.
Huh that, Glover, Why were you cost in this movie?
I don't know, but I love it. He is too
old for this shit in this movie.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
He does you don't want to be able.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
To ashier suits in this than you would expect from
the Lethal Weapons series.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Huh.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
So he's investigating the gang violence and he finds himself
in pursuit of the Predator, and of course nobody believes,
you know, he's getting all these reports, all this like
Invisible Killer.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
It's weird.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
It wasn't a man, it was a monster or whatever.
Towards the end of the film, as Harrogan is in
pursuit of this predator, the Predator goes to its ship
that it's hidden and as it you know, goes in
there to like restock on ammo et cetera, and like
treat its wounds, and we see among the Predator's trophies
(03:12):
is a xenomorph skull on the wall. And let me
tell you, in the pre internet era, when I saw
this as a kid and saw the alien style, I
was like, my mind literally exploded. But it's all I
could talk about.
Speaker 6 (03:29):
You don't understand the aliens exist in the Predator universe.
I've never heard of such a.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Cross this game. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Literally, I think for me this was probably also my
first crossover movie. And then I think the second one
was like I don't know, Frandy in Hell Freddie goes
to Hell and at.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
The end he pulls down I mean that.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
I think those are the two memories I have of like,
oh shit, like something's gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
So Harrigan kills the predator with its own like little weapon.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
It's the Frisbee weapon.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
And then a group of predators who I guess have
been like observing, appear and they take their fellow predators
corpse back with them to put it on the ship,
and they give Harrigan like an old like revolutionary war
pistol as.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
A good job. All right, do you peace?
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Next movie Alien Versus Predator two thousand and four.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
The year is a year is two thousand and four.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Charles Whaland played by Lance Henrickson that you played Bishop,
the synthetic humanoid Bishop in Aliens and other roles which
we will get to in the Alien franchise, is the
CEO of Whalen Industries, and he sends a crack team
of international scientists and mercenaries to a recently discovered pyramid
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which is under the Antarctic ice. Now the pyramid turns
out to be a predator like hunting temple, and it
turns out.
Speaker 5 (05:09):
How do they build it?
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Because they're the space faring highly advanced hunters And it
turns out.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
They're just like SPC the predators. Now, it turns out.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
The predators taught human beings how to build pyramids because
I guess people couldn't like figure out the triangle shape.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Like they were like they were like, this is a
two complex. What wo baby, I barely just got the
wheel going. I don't know what's going.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
So predator culture apparently considers the xenomorph like the ultimate prey,
like the most dangerous thing you can hunt.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
Right, So every one.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Hundred years, the predator contestants come to Earth to hunt
xenomorphs specifically hatched from sacrificial human beings, and this alien
queen that they have like frozen in the pyramid. And
this is like the predator version of the Olympics, right,
It's a big deal. And the scientists and the mercenaries
get all caught up in this competition and they're like,
(06:11):
we have to help the predators win because the aliens
if they overrun, you know, the predators, they'll like wild
on Earth and just kill everybody or use them as
you know, egg hatching incubators. The predators give Arctic guide
Lex played by snal A than a spear is a
gift and after this is after the predators defeat the aliens, uh,
(06:33):
they then get in the ship with one of their
fallen comrades named Scar and they take off, and then.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
Soon after they take off, an.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Alien predator hybrid bursts from the dead predator's chest. Now
you would, after several centuries of dealing with these creatures,
that the predators would like X ray everybody that they designed.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
Take that does with that, I.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Feel like to make sure they don't really think, y
know what these things do.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
And you're still like, yeah, yeah, don't even check it.
Just bring it right on.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Just put him on the ship. He's fine. Definitely didn't
get that.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Brings us to two thousand and sevens Alien Predator Requiem,
which occurs in the same year as Alien vers Predat
two thousand and four, happens in fact immediately following the events.
So right after the predators get in their ship and
take off to fly back to their home planet, the
pret alien, which is now hatched, it grows at a
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fantastic rate, as we often see that these creatures do,
and immediately fucking goes ham and it causes the predator
home ship to crash into Gunnis in Colorado. Ah, Yes,
Gunnis in Colorado's poor town doesn't know what it's in for.
The Xenomorphs then go fucking crazy and they start, you know,
reproducing using humans as hosts, going nuts. A Predator champion
(08:03):
back on the Predator homeworld gets the distress signal and
it's like, fuck this, I'm going there alone.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
If He's like, if you want to jump and I'm.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
Going to wipe out all the xenomorphs on Earth.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Now things get really chaotic and crazy, so much so
that the military like immediately gets involved and they decide,
we can't we can't let this spread any further. Let's
nuke gunnison, a thing you've seen in a million movie Outbreak, the.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
Blob, et cetera.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
So, but I think it's actually like quite a reasonable
thing to do in this particular case.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Jason's like, in this case.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
You go to do I feel like I feel like
they're they're not thinking about the fact that in the
canon of these kind of movies, if you nuke some creature,
it usually just becomes giant. So I would definitely be
thinking of the Godzilla potentials of the mutation, But I
still understand the intention.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
It's pretty like you must imagine like the president would
have had to have been briefed Sally, Okay, mister President.
So what we've got is a parasitic alien race species
that is reproducing very quickly, and they are also being
fought by a humanoid alien race of hunters. Are you
(09:27):
getting this, sir.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
To alien species you didn't know about until this.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
The military nukes Gunisen, killing the predator and the Xenomorphs.
The Predator's gun is then gifted to miss Utani, who
does not have a first name in the movie, who
is the CEO of a Japanese cybernetics and robotics company,
the Utani Corporations. Now we have Wayland and Utani in
(09:52):
the universe.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Dude, I have to say the movies that are essentially
like so derived.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
Both these movies are dumb.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Try to enjoy they are like so dumb, it's so funny,
how dedicated they have to.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Say they worked really hard, Like can't casting LANDA Hendrickson, Yeah,
I got you know, being like and they're like, we're
gonna make cannon manly, You're gonna kid, You're.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Gonna care about this.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
People will be talking about this, and it's like, people,
these movies are so dumb, but I gotta they command
really hard to every single movie having a twist ending
that is somehow connectically in law.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
These reveals do have an interesting effect on the overall cannon,
which we will discuss as we get there. Next up
twenty twelve's Prometheus, The year is twenty eighty nine. Archaeologist
Elizabeth Shaw and her boyfriend Charlie discover that many ancient
human cultures have a very similar foundational myth that involves
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very tall aliens from a distant star system. And these
tall aliens are the engineers who I guess, so life
across the galaxy or something. Peter Whyland, who is very
very very very very old and about to die, Like
any second he's about to die.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
He is about to go. It's happening as his.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
Like video recording is being played to this science team
that he's put together. He's like, I'm not by the
time you watch this, I'm gone. So hes an ambitious
mission to a moon in that particular star system that
they matched to the cave paintings and different pieces of
(11:36):
art from all those human cultures, and so they're going
to this moon called LVY two twenty three because he
thinks the engineers are there, and mister Whaland wants the
engineers to tell him how he can like avoid dying,
which is such a fucking come.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
On, just assassin thing to do.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Like, so many of the decisions in these movies are
so terrible, And it's really funny because once we you know,
we are doing this in fictional chronological order. So at
this point, by the time you get to Prometheus, the
movie is essentially like an MCU filled easter egg for
the previous alien movies that were released. But at this
point chronologically you're just like, my friend, what are you doing,
(12:18):
Like you have to spend this much money, I'm sure
you could just find.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
A sign to do this instead of going in the
real world.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
PayPal founder Peter Thiel, you know, investor in tech and
all around right wing nut job, has It's been credibly
reported that he injects himself with like the human blood
of like young healthy people.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
So yeah, yeah, you.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Know they're doing crazy in the real world.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
So yeah, okay.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
The journey take to LV two twenty three takes them
four years. They're in cryo sleep the whole time. Cash
While they're in cryo sleep, they're watched over by David,
who is a synthetic a humanoid that was designed by
mister Whyland. On LV two twenty three, the team finds
like a ton of artifacts from the engineers, including all
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these jars of like black goo that turns out to
be a bio weapon. David takes like a drop played
very creepily by Michael Fastbat takes a drop of the
black goo, and he infects Charlie with it. Charlie then
has sex with Elizabeth and impregnates her unknowingly with this
(13:32):
very fast growing alien fetus, just as David wanted. She asks, yeah,
as it's growing, like she's in more and more physical distress,
and they do a scan and he's like says, very.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
Creepy, oh, you've got this alien in you.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
And she's like, well, let's get it out. And he's like, well,
we don't have the stuff, we don't have any way
to do that here, and we yeah, yeah, yeah, Bat,
let's just seeze you take you home.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Okay, seems like nothing.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Very Elizabeth breaks into Charlie's thron's cabin on the ship
and uses her advanced like medical machine of which only
a dozen were made, and she does like an abortion
on herself, removing this like wriggling squid like alien. It's
really gross, it's really great super so can we just
(14:20):
say you mentioned Shaly's there on This movie has like
a wild cast is Yourselba Charlie's then Michael Fastbender, like
Wembridley Scott said he was coming back the original director
of Alien.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Everyone was like, I'm jumping on that ship. Like there's
some very.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Iconic images from this movie, like Idris Alba smoking a
Christmas tree that I feel actually have almost more longevity
than the movie.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
It did inspire many important memes.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
So we learned that LV two twenty three was an
engineer like bioweapon facility. They were making this bioweapon and
that they had planned to release it on Earth. Non
canon sources, namely Ridley Scott, who directed this film, says
that in his mind, they wanted to send the goo.
(15:08):
They made the decision to send the good to Earth
like two thousand years ago, and it was because the
humans had killed their emissary, the engineer emissary that sent
to Earth to tell them to like chill out and
stop being so violent, and that was Jesus. So Jesus
was an engineer, but then he didn't really put it
in so that credible kind of like the under that's
(15:30):
the subtext, man, that's straight from Ridley Scott.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
The movie is very heavily invested in the religious and God,
and part of the reason that Elizabeth even goes on
it is just because she's religious and she wants to meet God.
She wants to understand faith and where she comes from.
That is incredible and I had no idea that was
part of the canon, So thank you for that one,
Ridley Scott and Jason.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
And now we mentioned that mister Oylan was like really
really old and about to die, and by the time
they land on LVT twenty three, everybody thought he was dead,
but surprise, he's actually alive, and David goes to get
him from wherever he was high.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
He was like hiding in the in the ship the
whole time.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
He had like a secret a secret.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
False bottom, like in a desk or something.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
So they get him out and David, you know, goes
with him, and Charlie's then sorry, Meredith Vickers, I'll call
it very character name. And Elizabeth and I go to
the engineership and then David wakes up an engineer and
he can talk to them because he's been studying proto
into a European this ancient language, and so he translates
(16:37):
for mister Whyland and basically says, hey, I know we
just woke you up, but like my boss wants to
know how he cannot die. And the engineer is like,
you came all the way here for this, and he
goes crazy. He rips David's head off. He's so pissed off,
He's like that, he rips.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
David's head off.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
He bashes mister Whyland in the head with David's head,
and then you know, it goes. He tries to take off,
but Elizabeth, you know, radios to Adris Elba and is like,
we need to crash the ship or else, like he's
gonna send the Black pep to Earth. The ship crashes.
Now the engineer is like chasing Elizabeth. It chases her
(17:18):
through the human ship, where all of a sudden, Elizabeth's
xenomorph baby that looks like now like a huge squid yeah,
math subdues the engineer and impregnates it, like puts its
like egg overpositor into the Engineer's mouth, which is like
super super gross. Elizabeth then recovers David's head and body
(17:40):
and is like, hey, I want to go to the
engineer Homeworld.
Speaker 5 (17:43):
I need answers.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
I want to find out why they're going to wipe
out humanity with the black Goo, and will you take me?
And David's like, you know what, fuck it, let's do it.
After this a xenomore, not a full alien as we
know from like alien and Aliens, but like more kind
(18:05):
of like certainly one that looks like right, it's getting there.
It bursts out of the Engineer's chest. Uh, and then
later off this is kind of like this is not
in the movie, but it's part of like the Off
Cannon and other fictional materials. Whaland Industries goes bankrupt because
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mister Whalen put all his money. They flopped that to
just Coromedia's mission, and it is then acquired by the
Utani Corporation, creating the Whaland Utani Corporation that brings us
to Alien Covenant. The year is twenty one oh four.
The Whaland Utani ship Covenant, carrying several thousand Space Columnists,
(18:47):
is on its way to Orgie six Walter and Advanced
Synth using the David format, but with all of David's
like creative abilities that human beings found like really just
concerning removed manages things during the long cryo sleep of
the crew and all the colonists. But then tragedy strikes.
(19:08):
There's this neutrino burst and Walt tries to wake everybody
up to get them out of their tubes because the
ship is damaged, but Captain James Franco sadly dies in
his cryo tube.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Rip to that captain, rip to him.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Now, the crew while it's fixing the ship, gets a
distress signal from a nearby planet called Planet four, and
the new captain, Captain Orum, is like, let's go investigate.
So they investigate and they find out that this distress signal,
which came in the form of take Me Home, Country
Roads by John Denver in Christ, is from a planet
(19:44):
Planet four that is like completely like earthlike it can
it's got like water. They live there, and so the
whole crew is like, you know what, we just saw
the captain like get burned alive in his tube. Nobody
wants to get back for seven years. What if this
is the answer to all our problems? We just like
(20:05):
do this, We just like stay here. Daniels, who is
James Franco's widow now and is the second in command
is like, wait, wait, wait, it seems a little too perfect,
doesn't it, Like why didn't we ever we do all
these scans, which is how we found six, but now
there's this closer planet and we never saw it, and
it's like perfect, Like this doesn't seem any weird anybody,
(20:28):
And everybody's like shut up, no. So they go to
investigation and these are the dumbest fucking scientists ever. So
they go down to investigate this earth like planet and
they go with like literally no ppe, no helmets, no breathers,
nothing that we can just bring. Well, I guess they're
(20:49):
just like sitting on stuff and touching things and like
you don't see them drink the water, but they might
as well be, because they're just like breathing the error.
They're raw dogging this fucking planet and shocking Goose because
what they get infected by like sports the black goo, right,
And of course they then become hosts for xeno Morphs.
(21:14):
By the way, we also see that this there's a
city here and it's full of like dead engineers. This
is like the engineer home World. So one of the
infected team members gets taken back aboard the ship the covenant,
which is crazy. You just bring him back on he's
got he's sick with Why would you.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Do it every time? They are not following.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
It's kind of like just keep him in quarantine. They
were not prepared whoever put together this team of colonists,
and they were not prepared to be colonizing the.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
Rest of the group like remains on the planet's surface
with another infected guy. They then get attacked by the
xeno morphs that were one of which was born from
the infected person. But then they're saved by David Damon's
here dun dum.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
It turns out he's.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
David wiped out all the engineers by like dropping their
black goo bombs on them, and he's spent all the time,
like whatever it is eleven years later or something, trying
to perfect the perfect zenomorph because he loves making things.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
He just loves this. You get some deeply wild moments.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
I remember sitting in the movie theater in Long Beach,
where I believe I went with people from my old
comic shop that used to be on the waterfront at
Long Beach, and we went there and there is like
a five minute scene in this movie where one of
the Michael Fassbenders is like playing yeah, and then they're
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like gonna kiss and like it is legitimately one of
the weirdest movies. Jason's Fantastic Recap has always is just
zooming through this, making it seem far more action packed
than it is.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
This is like such a weirdly long.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Atmospheric like gothic movie, and the two micro fast mendez
are just having the wildest thought.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
So David then kills Walter in the scene that Rosie
was just talking about after the flute scene, basically tricks
him and like rips something out of his neck and
fucking drops him dead. But Walter is a significantly upgraded model,
and he like fixes himself somehow off camera and comes
back and he takes out David.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
Walter Daniels again.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
James Franco's widow then flee back to the Covenant ship,
but then it turns out that the xenomorph hatched out
of the sick guy that they brought him to the
fucking ship is now loose on the ship. So uh,
David Daniels and Danny McBride worked together to kill the alien. Hey,
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and as Daniels is being put back into cryo sleep by.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
This bit is actually genuinely terrifying, and I still think
about how impact.
Speaker 5 (23:56):
This and is was fucking great.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
So Daniels has been put back into cry sleep by Walter,
and she says, hey, will you help me build my
log cabin earlier in the movie of building a log cabin,
and he doesn't get the reference, and she realizes with
horror that it's actually David, that's not Walter, and she
but she can't do anything now because the go to
sleep gases are filling the tube, and she goes to
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fucking sleep. David then throws up to face huggers like
in little.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
Plastic cash pill capsules, puts.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Them in the human embryo freezer, and then radio's mission
control back on Earth and says, hey, sorry, everybody died
and I'm trying to carry out the machine on my own.
We'll be back in just a moment after a word
from our friends at whalen Utani. Whalen Utani making the
galaxy better, and we're back.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
That brings us too.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Yeah, Alien nineteen seventy nine's Alien. The movie that's started
all the year is twenty one twenty two The Wayland
Utanni Mining ship Nostromo receives a distress signal from planet
LV four twenty six. They go to investigate. They find
an alien ship. On the ship, there is a long
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dead engineer still in a jump seat with like the
trademark burst out of its chest. A face hugger hatches
and attaches itself to the face of one of the
crew members named Kane, who is then taken back aboard
the ship by the fucking Captain Dallas played by Tom Scarrett.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
I will say this is.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
The most effective like breaking quarantine scene because Ripley Ellen Ripley,
played by Sigourney Weaver, the hero of the film, is
like you come, don't is like hard.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
No, She is the safety officer, don't you.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
Says I'm not letting you in.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
You have to be there for you have to stay
in quarantine for twenty four hours. But it's Ash the
who then turns out to be Sayna, a human who,
as we will later learn, has other motives, lets them
aboard anyway. They get a board, and it's horrific. You know,
everybody's horrified by this faceoger on Kane. But then eventually
the face oger lets go and dies and everything seems fine, Yeah,
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until they're all having a wonderful dinner before going back
and cry to sleep, and Kine is all of a
sudden in immense distressed, and that happens the Xenomorph burst
out of his chest to general screen runs across the
horrifying moment.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Hilarious and certainly one of.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
The most just an iconic cinema moment.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Honestly, Yeah, this is still just like after watching all
these movies in this order, when you get here, the
pice's fautiful, the gorgeous set, the production design hr guyget
you can.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Just feel how tactile and.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Terrifying it really is compared to some of the more
modern versions.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
And this scene is still so iconic and so.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
Like this movie.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
Obviously there's some dated things about it, but overall seen
the scene, just like looking at them walking through hallways
and stuff, it looks as good as anything need today.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
It looks absolutely Yeah, and it's also a movie.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
About like working classes.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
Yeah, literally about work. It's about on the ship, like.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
It's about blue collar guys.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
It's so interesting in so many different ways that you
know this many years later still feel really relevant and cool.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
So the Zeno Mooreph quickly grows to this to the
size of a very large.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
Human being, and it begins.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
Off crewmembers one at a time, including the captain, who
volunteers himself to go like try and flush this thing
out of the air ducks because clearly he's feeling like
shit because this is all his fucking fault, like he
broke corts me.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Just listened.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
Now, Ripley discovers that Ash, the science officer, plans to
return to Earth with the Xenomorph and had in fact
been kind of directed to steer them towards this distress signal.
And because the company whyl and Utani that they all
work for, really, really really wants this xenomorph ip for
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like their weapons divisions, sure like their healthcare division, for
all sorts of divisions that they have under their banner.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
It really is a killing machine. And also, I want
to say this.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Is leads to another one of the most terrifying scenes
when Ash attacks Ripley.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
It's so simple, but I remember being so disconcerted. First
of all, I saw this scene. I was not allowed
to watch the movie. I was probably like five, and
my parents had it on VHS and they were watching it,
and I watched it from the top of the stairs.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
I watched the whole fucking thing.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
This scene really bothered me because there's something so weird
about the way he tries, like he rolls up a
magazine and tries to stuff it in her mouth, And
to this day, I've never seen somebody try to kill
somebody like that, and it really just really bothered me.
The imagery was so disturbing. Anyway, Ash tries to kill Ripley,
but then is stopped by the surviving crew members, and
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we discover that Ash is this synthetic human with like
milky blood.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Oh oh, so creepy.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Eventually it gets down to just Ripley because the alien
kills all these crew members. She and the ship cat
Jones said, the Stromo is self destuck, and they get
on a lifeboat and they launch and then Stromo explodes
and everything's fucking fine. No, it's not, because the alien
is hiding on the lifeboat.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
They're really smart, these aliens.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
They are very clever.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Ripley gets into a spacesuit, she opens the airlock, shoots
the alien in the chest with a harpoon, sending it
out of the airlock, and then when it tries to
crawl back onto the hull of the ship. It ends
up like inside one of the engines of the ship,
and she hits the thruster and it burns up, and
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then she goes in a cry of sleep at Jones
and everything is happily ever after, right.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Of course, normal problems. She escaped with the cat. That's
all she needed.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
That brings us to coming to a theater near you. Romulus,
set between the events of Alien and the next movie
in the series Aliens from nineteen eighty Aliens, Now Aliens
takes place in the year twenty one to seventy nine.
Ripley has been asleep for fifty seven years when she
is discovered by a salvage ship.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
She returns to Earth, but all hope of.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
Like restarting like a normal life are scuttled because her
credit score is absolutely fucking shit housed because whyland Utani
considers her financially liable unbelievable for the destruction of the
now Stroma, which she had to do, And she tries
to tell them, well, there's this fucking alien, there's a cenomorph.
It killed the whole crewude, and the shot whatever, We've
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never heard of anything like that.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Meanwhile, we know, yeah, what are you talking about?
Speaker 4 (31:25):
Utani company, And separately, both the Whyland and Utani sides
of the company have been aware, well aware of the
existence of xenomorphs, saying since the twentieth century, they've known about.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
It, they've been trying to make one.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Also, I just want to say, you know, this is
a huge change from Ridley Scott, the original director. Now
you've got James Cameron. That's two of the biggest directors
of all time. But I love that James Cameron respected
that this needed to at least begin by being a
movie about a blue collar worker getting fucked over by
a corporation. He was like, that part is really important,
even if the rest of the movie is going to
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be totally different. I just need people to know I
remember that that is what made that movie.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
And I have to say, you gotta love James Cameron
before the Avatar movies, before this complete CG revolution that
he undertook, because here's another movie with the production design,
the practical effects, the sets that looks so tactile and
real and lived in and it looks again, it looks
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as good as any movie that will come out like
it just looks fucking great. Anyway, when Wayland loses contact
with their colony, Hadley's Hope on LV four twenty six.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Why did they stock Alanya Guy? Well, I think they
knew it. I think they did that.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
Honestly, I think they did this.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
They did so they strong armed Ripley into going back
because she's the only person with experience with Xeno Morrison.
She's like, you'll be a consultant, and by the way,
you'll be completely safe because we're sending you with a
squad of heavily armed colonial marines. These these men and
women are fucking badasses. They're so buff and they go
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they're fucking professionals.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
There's nothing that can happen to them.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
They've kill, kill, kill, and there's nobody better Baby Galaxy
than them. Well, yes there is, because as soon as
they land, the aliens wipe out the fucking Marines like quick,
like ten minutes. There's only a handful of marines, and
this thrust Ripley, a surviving colonist, this little girl named Nude,
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and a rag tag of marines and one company hack
named Carter Burke into a struggle to survive. They come
up with a plan to nuke the There're just like,
let's get back on our ship.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
And fucking nuke. Like what you know, now, Company hack.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
Burke disagrees in Gunnissan Company hack Burke is like, now,
hold on, this installation holds a significant dollar value to
the stockholders, not to mention the potential gains to be
made from the alien ip They're like, shut the fuck up, bitch,
shut up where nuke.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
They're like, this is alway the problem.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
This is where the problem comes from. You're not taking
an alien home. It's not Jurassic Park.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
It's again, it must be said, they've been trying to
take an alien back to Earth for like one hundred
years at this point. Anyway, this so they ignore him
and they proceed with nuke from orbit plan, which requires
them to escape back to their ship. But the aliens
fucking go crazy. They kill Company Hack, Carter Burke, and
a bunch of others. Ripley eventually escapes with Newt and
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a bishop the new Synth played by Lance Henrickson, who
you know Ripley has been struggling to kind of trust
up until this time. Yeah, they get back on board
their ship and they are gonna nuke it from orbit,
but then guess what. It turns out that the alien
queen who Ripley had previously burned up all the eggs,
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all the alien face hugger eggs in front of the queen.
It made the queen super angry. Now she's so pissed.
She attached herself to their jump ship and like was
hiding in the wheel well and now she appears. She
tears Bishop in half. But then Ripley, in one of
the most iconic scenes in movies, Yeah legendary scene, puts
on a loader suit basically a mech suit and beats
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the shit out of the queen get away from Yeah bitch.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
How you bitch? Also just need to say, like, the
queen design is so sick.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
It's really hard to come from a movie like Alien
where you have someone's literal nightmares. In HL Guy Got
Coming to life as the xenomov, it shocked people. We
had no idea of what an alien could look like
before all that.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Before it had.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Always been the you know, the the Gray Men kind
of trope. And then to have to find a new
way to scare people in the new movie is.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
So well done.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Even though this is definitely more of an action than
a sci Fi horror. I do think the Queen design
goes down as like one of the most badass designs.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
And it must be said, Cameron has created two of
the greatest sequels of all time T two and Aliens. Ever,
you know, it's like Godfather too off T two Aliens.
That's like the triumvirate of the greatest sequels of all
time and James Cameron has made two of them.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
So yeah, Ripley Jettison's the Queen out into space.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
She puts Hicks into cryo sleep, she puts Nude into
cryo sleep, she puts herself into cryo sleep.
Speaker 5 (36:49):
And they won. That's it. That's it, We've won.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
We're going back to Thema problems. She's got a nice
little baby.
Speaker 7 (36:56):
Norm She's a kid likenw no young mute.
Speaker 4 (37:01):
That brings us to Alien three from nineteen ninety two.
The year is twenty one seventy.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Nine Dun Dun Dum.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
After a fire aboard the marine intergalactic ship causes the
lifeboat to be launched, which contains the cryo tubes of Hicks, Ripley, Newt,
and Bishop. The lifeboat then crashes on a prison planet
inhabited by all male inmates. Only Ripley survives no scratch.
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That a face hugger, a face hug that was aboard
the ship also survives. The face hugger then hug wild
one of the inmates dogs, and the dog quickly gives
birth to a really bad looking xenomorph alien hybrid.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Yeah, really ugly dog xenom off hybrid.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Okay, I just want to stop us that because in
one of the original scripts this movie was written like
four or five times before it was made.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
It was originally going to be.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
A cow instead of a dog, which I would have
loved to see.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Also, this movie is.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
One of my favorite almost movie scripts, which was the
original Alien three script was that it was going to
be set on a planet of monks and the planet
was entirely wooden, and inside the wooden planet were all
these tunnels, and you kind of get to see a
little Instead of monks, you get the prisoners who are
religious fanatics, and you get some of those tunnels still
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going through the prison planet. But it's not in any
way as wild as that would have been. This movie
had true production hell, it went through.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
And this is David Fincher's feature film debut. David Fincher
was by this time a very accomplished music video and
commercial director some really like iconic music videos for Madonna
and many many other notables, and did a lot of
ad campaigns for Levi's Nike, et cetera. But this is
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his first movie, and he has since he disowned the movie.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Yes, all three cups.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
He doesn't like the work print, he doesn't like the
theatrical print, he doesn't like the special edition, he said,
not for me.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
I find that also, this movie really feels like it.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
Was heavily influenced by like a French cinema at the time,
like the City of Lost Children.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
We Have Lost Children, kind of like the breakout film
of the director who directed Alien Resurrection, the next film
in it. Yeah, and it really feels to me like
this was influenced I agree with you by that by Delicatessen.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
It has this kind of weird it's incredibly.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
Monotone like the Yeah, it has like these monotone kind
of like and it's very slow compared to you know, Aliens.
And yes, the dog's animal hybrid is notoriously bad in
this and it actually has there's a very famous scene
with it's just hands and some black leather gloves and
they just come down on the screen and everyone's like,
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no human adds.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
CG for it, And this is nineteen ninety two, and
you know, by this point it's like the state of
the art for this kind of CG was again probably
T two and What's the James Cameron.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Which, by the way was also at the time the
most expensive underwater deep the Abyss.
Speaker 5 (40:14):
So you know, at this time.
Speaker 4 (40:15):
The state of the art for this kind of effects
was probably like T two and The Abyss, both by
James Cameron.
Speaker 5 (40:20):
By the way, the.
Speaker 8 (40:21):
Dog Allian Dog alias Let's go with them, they like
gave it this kind of green sheen, which I think
what they were intending to do was to make it
stand out from these very gray stone hallway backgrounds that stand.
Speaker 5 (40:39):
Out from the shadows.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
But the issue is it made it look completely not
realistic to the way light works.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Yeah, in any way, so it just looks anyway, I
will say as well. Another interesting thing I learned because
I watched this on laser disc, so I was like, oh,
maybe the laser disc lasion is a different cock because
I've seen many different cots of the Alien movie.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Because there were just so.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Many no, But what I did learn is that how
they did the CG on this so they could see
what it looked like was they would take a.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
Laser disc version of the dailies and then.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
Overlay the CIG on top of the movie to see
what it would look like.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Yeah, that's how they were making it.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
So laser disc actually a very important part of the
making of this movie. But yeah, it does look like
the CG was done with laser disc, so that did
not actually surprise me.
Speaker 5 (41:28):
Ripley forms a bond with Clemens.
Speaker 4 (41:30):
The prison doctor played by Charles Dance aka Tywon Lanister
Taiwan landis dog alien goes on a fucking hot streak
like killing Sbury. It's just kill Ay, kills the warden
while the warden is giving kills the warden while the
warden is giving like a speech about how no one
should be worried about like the people who've been dying
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recently in any rumor that there's like a dragon running
around they.
Speaker 5 (41:55):
Killing people's nature.
Speaker 4 (41:56):
The dog alien like reaches down from the fucking sea
and just like.
Speaker 5 (42:02):
Choose him up. But it doesn't kill Ripley because guess why.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
Huh, oh man, I wonder why it.
Speaker 4 (42:10):
With an alien the face hugger got her in the
oh Man so and so remember it bummed out about
this and she's like, well, I'm gonna kill myself.
Speaker 5 (42:20):
I want to die. And the inmates are.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
Like, Noah's more, you die.
Speaker 5 (42:24):
You have to help us beat this thing because you've
you've done it twice. Now we can't. We need you.
We need your help, you see, and then you can
kill yourself. And she's like okay.
Speaker 4 (42:35):
So that she comes up with a plant to like
lure it because they have no weapons on this prison facility,
lure it into it like a furnace facility that they
have where they can dump like molten metal on it
and kill it.
Speaker 5 (42:48):
And so they managed to do that.
Speaker 4 (42:49):
They dumped the molten metal on it and then just
like terminated too. They like spray it with water which
has this like rapid temperature shift and its it like shatters.
Okay again, just you think this must be one of
the things that bothers Fincher too.
Speaker 5 (43:05):
He's like, but they did.
Speaker 4 (43:06):
They did an interminator too, and then we're doing it
at the end of the So then Ripley is about
to jump in the furnace. Mission accomplished she wants wants
to kill this turns out she's an alien queen in
her chest. But then a whalen Utani rescue team arrives,
led by mister Bishop, the human creator of Bishop the Synth.
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He's glens Hendrick is back and there and whaling Utani
must be thinking, finally, this is it. We've got it,
We've it actually did it's We've been trying to do
this for two hundred years and now we finally got
a human with a with an alieness and it's an
alien queen. We've got to get this thing back to Earth.
Speaker 5 (43:48):
But it doesn't work.
Speaker 4 (43:50):
And even though mister Bishop is very very I might
have been persuaded by mister Bishop.
Speaker 5 (43:55):
He really puts the charm on. He's like, Ripley, what
are you? Don't you want to go Homely, it's gonna
be great.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
You think we couldn't be great. And then she's like
part of.
Speaker 5 (44:07):
The whale of you family like don't do.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
That, and she's like, well, my adopted daughter is dead
and I'm pregnant with the alien baby, so I'm just
gonna jump into this CG molten metal like.
Speaker 5 (44:19):
Jumps into the CG molten metal just.
Speaker 4 (44:21):
Like Jesus Christ just as the alien queen burst out
of her chest and she's like like a baby, and
they hit they hit the metal and they burn up
and that's it.
Speaker 5 (44:34):
Happily. Ever, after that's.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
It, we just have to take a break to go
and insert the alien eggs into our human sacrifices so
we can have xenomorphs ready for you after this.
Speaker 7 (44:45):
Message, and we're back.
Speaker 2 (45:06):
Finally, Ripley is free from the aliens. Nothing else could happen.
Speaker 5 (45:11):
Alien Resurrection nineteen ninety seven the year, but it's been
two hundred years, directed by Jean Pierre Jeunette.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
Still haven't done it. They still haven't.
Speaker 5 (45:22):
Directed by French weirdo Jean Pierre Jeanne of Omily fame
and the City of City of Lost Children, City of
Lost Children. Super weird, really fun movie.
Speaker 4 (45:33):
I'm not sure he was the correct choice for this film,
but regardless. Whalen Utani scientists a border ship named the
Ariga clone Ripley from a blood sample and they combine
it with xenomorphtine clone Ripley and then grows up to
like adult Ripley in a very short period of time.
Because you know how the aliens do that. They just
grow up and clone Ripley Ye super strong, has acid
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blood and also has a very weird psychic link to
the aliens. And also because I guess the xenomorphs have
like a genetic memory, they chair the memory of like
other I don't know how it works, but whatever. Ripley
also somehow she has memories of herself, but they're from
the perspective of the aliens that like fought.
Speaker 5 (46:20):
Her wild So are the aliens psychic? Like how do
they get the memory?
Speaker 2 (46:27):
I think maybe it's like a hive mind.
Speaker 5 (46:29):
This is very venerable.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
They all are experience. This is the next video essay
how Alien Resurrection shaped the.
Speaker 4 (46:41):
Okay, so mercenaries arrive on the Arega. They're here to
deliver prisoners. They are going to be used as incubators
for the alien eggs for to create more aliens. Evil
Annilie Call played by Winona Ryder decides like, Hey, this
is a really fucked up thing that's happening here. They're
using humans to get the aliens. And also the aliens
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are like a super weapon and if they get out
it would be really crazy.
Speaker 5 (47:06):
We can't let this happen.
Speaker 4 (47:07):
But of course, eventually the aliens escape from where they're
being researched, and actually this way, I thought, this is
kind of like my favorite part of the movie is like,
so they've got these two aliens, they're running tests on them,
and then the aliens can't get out because like every
time they approach the glass or approach the walls, like
they get shot with this like very very cold like gas.
And so one of the aliens, the aliens are really smart, guys,
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how often.
Speaker 5 (47:31):
Do we have to say it?
Speaker 4 (47:32):
They're like, wait a second, we have acid blood, and
they one of the aliens kills the other one who
just like lets itself get killed, and the blood builts
the floor and then it jumps through the floor and
gets out into the the facility. Now we should mention again,
whaleen U Tani has been researching these aliens for two centuries.
Speaker 2 (47:53):
They know about it acid blood. I feel like it
should be like having a guy the acid blood melts. Guys.
Speaker 4 (48:01):
You know about the acid blood.
Speaker 2 (48:03):
Really, you definitely know.
Speaker 4 (48:08):
A queen alien containing some of Ripley's human DNA gives
birth human like birth because it has like a uterus
like a human.
Speaker 5 (48:17):
To a almost funny looking human alien that looks like Rosie.
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (48:26):
Do you agree with me on this looks like Pumpkinhead.
I do agree Mkinhead from the titular villain from Pumpkinhead,
the film which also stars Aliens star Dun Dunn Lance Henrickson,
He's back. He's connected six degrees of Lance Ericksen in
the Alien universe.
Speaker 2 (48:46):
It does look like Pumpkinhead.
Speaker 1 (48:48):
They did not deliver the new cool alien design when
it came to that little guy. Also, I feel like
maybe this is one of those like weird social and constructs.
But I swear to God, like when I was a kid,
I thought when on a Ryder was like her door
or something in this movie, or her clothes or something,
(49:09):
And then when I rewatched it, I was like, that
is definitely not what it's like.
Speaker 4 (49:14):
If you get fire five vibes from the mercenaries and
from like the design. That might be because Joss Whedon
wrote this terrible fucking script. This movie is like, it's
so bad, but it's the worst looking of the Alien
movies by far, at least Alien three. Every few years
(49:36):
with Alien three.
Speaker 1 (49:37):
Hence why I own it on Bloomin Laser disc that
I just bought recently from Amba in La. It's like
every few years I reconsider it because there's it's like
a visual, there's a visual, a choice that David Fincher made.
It's very strange, it's very dreary, it's slow burn. It
has this weird religious kind of subtext to it.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
But it is, I have to say, sadly quite boring movie.
But at least it has vibes.
Speaker 1 (50:07):
Alien four Resurrection does not have vibes and does not
live up to a movie that has both Sigourney Weaver,
and it.
Speaker 4 (50:14):
Looks sadly like a very cheap film.
Speaker 5 (50:17):
It does not look expensive or good at all.
Speaker 4 (50:21):
It does have what I consider to be one of
the most iconic basketball scenes in movies in which the Mercenaries.
Speaker 2 (50:28):
This is the Mercenaries encounter with the cat super Ripley.
Speaker 5 (50:32):
So super Ripley.
Speaker 4 (50:32):
Again, Remember has the alien DNA, and she's like practicing
basketball and her game is like Peau Charles Barkley, like
she just like drives to the hoop of.
Speaker 5 (50:42):
Dunks, that's what he is.
Speaker 4 (50:45):
And then of course there's this really amazing shot where
she's like walking away from the basket and she shoots
a basket over her head and it goes in, and
she actually made that shot. That's like the take that's
in the movie is for actually making the.
Speaker 2 (51:00):
Show is so good you can't believe it.
Speaker 1 (51:03):
It's like that Catwoman scene with Michelle Biba where she
gets all the heads off with the whips.
Speaker 2 (51:09):
It's one of those things.
Speaker 1 (51:10):
Where it just becomes a legendary scene that you never
believe was done without cg And yeah it was Sigourney.
Speaker 2 (51:16):
Weave a continue you can go Queen and the.
Speaker 4 (51:19):
Queen go on YouTube and see like the outtake, it's
not an outtake, it's Ron Perlman like reacts the way
any person would react to that by just going, oh
my god. And he thought for a second that he
like hauld ruin the take because he says it like
right after it goes in, but there was enough space
(51:39):
there for them to like cut anyway, Go watch it
on YouTube.
Speaker 5 (51:42):
It's really funny.
Speaker 2 (51:43):
It's very cool.
Speaker 5 (51:44):
So Ripley manages to.
Speaker 4 (51:47):
Launch the alien Queen into space by melting a window
with her acid blood.
Speaker 2 (51:53):
Of course again acid be.
Speaker 4 (51:55):
We should have thought about it, like we gotta ask
to prove this entire facility, the mercenaries and Ripley escape
the Orega, which crashes into Earth.
Speaker 5 (52:07):
Uh oh, but it does explode, so.
Speaker 4 (52:09):
Maybe, like all the aliens and alien research are fine.
And then the mercenaries are like, where should we go?
And then Ripley is like, you know, I don't know.
I'm like two weeks old. Yeah, I don't, like, I
don't know anything, and then the movie's over.
Speaker 5 (52:26):
The movie is so fucking dumb.
Speaker 2 (52:28):
It's so dumb.
Speaker 4 (52:31):
And that brings us to the chronological end of the
Alien Universe as we know it now again.
Speaker 5 (52:41):
Alien Romulus coming to theaters near you soon takes place.
Speaker 4 (52:45):
Between alien and aliens. So that'd be very interesting to see.
Speaker 2 (52:50):
Yes, very interesting.
Speaker 1 (52:52):
And it's Fetti Alvarez, who's like a don't Breathe the
Evil Dad remake. That man knows how to make a
scary movie. So I'm excited to see what happens.
Speaker 4 (53:01):
One question I have for you that I think is
listen this to your point, they did do a surprising
amount of like lore building in this specifically in like
the Alien Verse Presator Really why Yeah, The overall like
world building is quite spotty, Like there's a lot of
un answered questions and there's a lot of things that
don't line up. And here's one of my biggest ones,
(53:23):
and we don't really ever get the answer. Why were
the engineers going to wipe out Earth other than the.
Speaker 2 (53:28):
Jesus in Jesus?
Speaker 1 (53:32):
Well, I do think you make a good point. I'm
sure that Ridley Scott was planning to make the Jesus
think canon.
Speaker 2 (53:37):
For some reason.
Speaker 1 (53:38):
These old directors from this error of action, they love Jesus.
Speaker 2 (53:43):
Poor Verhoven's the same, He loves Jesus.
Speaker 1 (53:46):
If you watch his very entertaining lesbian nonsplitation movie Benedetta.
It's about like a nun in eighteenth Centuary Rome, you know,
who begins having these visions. But when she has visions
of Jesus, she's having visions of like hunky like action,
start nuts, watchenegga Jesus. It's like some of the most
outrageous stuff. I don't know why they love Jesus, but
(54:06):
why were they gonna wipe us out? Probably, you know,
some kind.
Speaker 2 (54:10):
Of like Godzilla esque.
Speaker 1 (54:12):
The engineers saw that we were destroying the Earth and
they decided the best thing to do, or they wanted
to terraform Earth and take it over and use it
as a breeding ground. For these aliens, which would become
like weapons if they wanted to take over other planets.
But I think Prometheus kind of messes us up because
Prometheus adds in the lore of like they are the creators,
(54:35):
they are where the god mythology comes from. So then
that takes on a lot of a heavier weight of
kind of why they would want to destroy us.
Speaker 4 (54:45):
I guess part of me wonders so that you find
out that the planet that they go to in Prometheus,
like or at least the supposition from our science friends
in the story, is that this is like a bioweapons facility,
So maybe like yeah, maybe it's like the two ingredients
of the weapon, like Earth is where the incubators are
(55:06):
and then they have the actual weapon stuff. Honestly, that
would be the smartest way to do it, seeing how
violent this these this weapon is, is to like have
them separate and then combine them later at some other
place somewhere. Would they be fighting? Why would they need
this weapon? I guess that's the other thing, like who
were they scared of?
Speaker 5 (55:25):
Like the predators, but like.
Speaker 4 (55:27):
The prenators don't really feel like that's big a threat.
Speaker 1 (55:30):
To not really a formidable threat killing one engineer, like
the engineers could just like step up or like.
Speaker 5 (55:36):
Can they kill like one engineer years like big fucking deal. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (55:39):
Also as well, the Predators, I feel like that always
just willing to like team up with someone thanks to
the laylo, So I feel like the Energy Engineers could
have just been like, let's not be beefing, bro, Like,
let's just be cool. I won't make a bioweapon to
kill you if you just chill out a bit. But
you know what, that's the interesting thing. I've been thinking
a lot about prequels cause of House of the Dragon,
(56:01):
which I believe is currently up there for me for
like one of the greatest prequels that we've ever gotten,
the way that the TV series decided to adapt Fire
and Blood. And actually, like, prequels are so complex because
you do start to build in or this law that
was never intended in the original films, you know, so
with Alien versus Predator in these movies that are so
(56:24):
far away from really being connected to like the original Alien.
But because they start technically before you are watching a prequel,
and if you're a nerd like us, you can't help
connecting those things together. So you do start asking these
questions about how these things all connect.
Speaker 2 (56:40):
And I do still think with Alien.
Speaker 1 (56:43):
And Predator now both under the Disney banner after the
twentieth Century Fox acquisition, I do think that we will
probably get another Alien Predator movie in our time that
is more concerned with the Ridley Scott style law because
it's just such an enjoy ball match up.
Speaker 2 (57:01):
But you make a good.
Speaker 1 (57:02):
Point that, really, in general, the Predators, I think the
reason they focus on humans is because they're not actually
that good peoples, Like they could go to the engineers,
but instead they're like, oh, I'll just see what happens
if I kill a human, Like, I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (57:16):
That's so far?
Speaker 5 (57:16):
Are they?
Speaker 4 (57:17):
Like the predators trophies that they give like humans, it's
always like a flintlock, pistol, a spirit? Can I get
something from elsewhere in the get like give me an
alien weapon?
Speaker 2 (57:28):
Yeah? Could I have?
Speaker 5 (57:30):
I mean anyone?
Speaker 4 (57:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (57:31):
Like could I get something like a gun or something?
This is what they can fucking go to.
Speaker 4 (57:36):
But no, they dude, they don't want to give it
to you because then you could kill them.
Speaker 2 (57:40):
Because they're not that good.
Speaker 4 (57:42):
They gotta give you, like they're like, make sure you
give them weapon that's at least one hundred and fifty
years old, or he might be able to take us out.
Speaker 2 (57:48):
See and that's our show. Join us Thursday when we finally.
Speaker 1 (57:51):
Dive deep into the darkness of deep space.
Speaker 2 (57:56):
In Alien Up Episode.
Speaker 4 (57:58):
One by x ray Vision is hosted by Jason Concepcion
and Rosie Knight and is a production of iHeart Podcasts.
Speaker 1 (58:07):
Our executive producers are Joel Monique and Aaron Kaufman.
Speaker 5 (58:10):
Our supervising producer is Abu Zafar.
Speaker 1 (58:13):
Our producers are Common Laurent Dean Jonathan and Fay Wag.
Speaker 4 (58:17):
A theme song is by Brian Vasquez, with alternate theme
songs by Aaron Kauffman.
Speaker 1 (58:21):
Special thanks to Soul Rubin, Chris Lord, Kenny Goodman and
Heidi our discord moderator.
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Jason Concepcion
Rosie Knight
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