July 9, 2024 • 58 mins
Saddle up your dragon and join us for the Battle of Rook’s Rest! Jason and Rosie are back to explore the battle plans of two similarly fractured war councils. And boy oh boy do we get a lot of dragon action this week! While the Greens and the Blacks might be struggling with familial unrest, we’re united on one front: we still don’t like Criston Cole! Jason and Rosie catch up on the spooky happenings at Harrenhal, and why you should never take a drink from a witch. And in the backmatter we check-in with the scorecard and hear a hot take from Jason!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Warning, today's episode can hit spoilers for House of the
Dragons season two, episode four, Do not watch it, Do
do before you watch it. Hello, my name is Jason
(00:28):
Concepcion and I'm Rosy Night, and welcome back to Extra
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Speaker 2 (00:44):
In today's episode in the Airlock, we will be diving
into that shocking episode Bob Housing the Dragon episode four,
and what an episode it was, and we'll be going
to the scorecard to see who's winning, who's losing, who's
catching a point. After this wild episode of How's of
the Dragon?
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Shall we Be Dead? How's to the Dragon? Season two,
episode four, Damon's weird dreams continue and are they dreams?
What's going on? I'm eager to dive into this with
you because I think we get something like answers shortly
in this episode. So this time he finds himself in
(01:25):
the throne room in the Red Keep. Young Raniera is
there and she is just like unleashing a harangue on him,
but it's muted. It's hard for him to hear. It's
cloudy for some of it, right, But the thing that
we definitely hear is Raniera saying to Damon, well, you know,
Visa's loved me more than he loved you, which is
(01:47):
why he chose me. And this enrages Damon to no end.
He cuts off her head, but the head continues to
speak to him, and it's saying that there's been a raven.
And then suddenly Damon comes to and it's Sir Simon
pounding on his door, saying, there's been a raven. You
know there's been a message. Damon learns from Sir Strong
(02:07):
that the Greens, led by our favorite Christen, call mister
hair mister bowl cut. Christ Oh you know what I
have to say.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
I just want to thank whoever gave this man the
haircut that he deserves. I saw a lot of people
and they were like, oh, I'm really upset. You know,
the most evil, moral, bad villainous thing has been done
on this show is giving Fabian this haircut. No, that's
the haircut Christian Cole deserves. He undeserved to look sexy.
He doesn't deserve to look chivalrous give him that bad
(02:37):
ball haircut, and it is representative of the bad choices
that he is gonna make in this episode.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
The most jilted Boyfriend. Oh yeah, like we're gonna get
to it.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
But there is a line in this where I literally
like wanted to throw the remote at the TV and
just be like fucking get over it. Like just fucking
get over it.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
I know you tried to tell the Queen to Bee
that she should run away and pick oranges with you,
and she was like, are you fucking crazy? And he is.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
The FAA gives him merely Alcott with one of the
all time great reaction memes. There.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
So Damon learns that Christen Cole is at the head
of a steadily growing army that is cutting a swath
through the crown Lands and the river Lands. A Rosby
and Stokeworth have gone over to the enemy, citing the
murder of Prince to Harris hashtag Damon's fault hashtag dame.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
As we also we kind of know that really though,
like Kristin Cole's going around chopping people's heads off. If
they don't know's it's like, yeah, it's it's like maybe
it's because of Gerris. Maybe not. I'm not not to,
you know, apologize for Damon committing child murder. But Kristin
Cole is also not doing an honorable thing here. Yeah,
he's doing it like bow.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Stuff for sure. So Damon has been awoken because he
expects to be treating with the Lord Paramount of the Riverlands,
Grover Tully, but instead he is summoned to the meat
room to treat with Grover's grandson, young Oscar Tully. And
he's a little and he's a little little young. He's
(04:08):
got some pluck, but he's a youngster for sure. Grover
is out of it, as we have heard, and Damon
kind of joking because he really needs the swords of
the Riverlands kind of joking is like, hey, Oscar, maybe
you could quicken him on.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
His way, you know, just like put a pillow over his.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Head and a silken pillow over your grits. And Oscar
is like, are you fuking? I love? Are you fucking kidding?
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Like that is the most like Tagarian joke ever, Like, Damon,
you could joke about that because you guys would do
that all the time. This is just the sweet kid
who loves his granddad his granddad literally raised him off.
His father died, Like please, and Damon and again.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Like you're coming off of the news that you engineered
the your side, and certainly you yourself had a role
in it, the engineer the murder of a child. I
think now is the time to pump the brakes a
little bit on crazy, like kill your family. M Yeah,
like just be a chill guy right now. Anyway, Oscar
(05:13):
says like this is that's not how we do it.
And also I can't make decisions while my grandsire, Lord
Paramount of the Riverland score for Toally, is still alive,
and so that's not the way we do things. That
Damon is extremely frustrated, so he's like, okay, there's already war.
I understand now why the Brackens and the Blackwoods are
going at it hammer and tongs without any oversight from
(05:35):
their lord Paramount, because this is like a rudderless ship
over here. So send me the Blackwoods because those are
the ones who declared for Rania and maybe I like killing. Yeah,
they like killing, and they're ready to fucking go on
drift Bark Rainy's chats with Alan at the show such
a good moment Rainey's is the best. This is a
(05:58):
spotlight episode for her, and we learn from their conversation
that Allan is Corliss's bestard son and that Rainie snows yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
And the thing that I really loved about this is like,
so at first you can't tell. You're like, is she
being like weird? Is this like a bad moment for Reniese?
Is she like doing some weird like fetishization. She's talking
about his comely mother, and then you see Corliss walk
behind him and You're like, oh, no, that's his son.
This is this is top tier casting. This is his son.
(06:30):
My favorite thing about this though that I think, you know,
last episode we had Renie ask Carlis to recognize I
think what did he want? He wanted them to recognize
the daughter, one of the daughters as the heir to Driftmark, right.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
He was like, what didn't you do?
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Yea? And he was he was like, yeah, I don't know,
Let's just keep this six year old Jeoffrey like, I'm
sure it'll be fine. But I love in this moment
that she sort of says to him, She kind of
says like, why are you keeping him hidden away? Like
he saved your life. He is your son, and I
feel like there's this inclcation of like you need an
ad like this is an adult man who saved your life,
(07:07):
who is a good man, Like don't keep him, hid
him beneath the waves, bring him to call.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Incredible performance by eve Best, who you could tell that
Remis is hurt by the fact that Corlis was sloppy
with his infidelity in a way that throws it in
her face. And at the same time, she is such
(07:32):
an honorable person and such a generous person that she's like, listen,
this hurts me obviously a lot.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
But you can't.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Yeah, you can't. This is unfair to him, who has
already proven his worth by saving your life. You can't
just like keep him shunted away in the shipyards pretending
that you don't know who the fuck he is, and
he knows who.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
You are exactly. It's like behave ball.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Yeah. So she tells Corliss in the course of that
conversation that she has to go to Dragonstone because Bayla
has sent a raven like you gotta come out here
because it's a mess. Ranara's off again and no one
knows where she is, and the Black Council is just
like arguing, so we need you. In King's Landing, Alison
(08:18):
gets some plan tea from Grandmaster or while she says
it's for someone else, but and the Grandmaster pretends that
he believes that it's for someone else.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I just have to say, like Alison, this I I
you are lucky that Kristin Cole is away because Raniera
did this shit. I believe he didn't like it. Like
I'm saying, protect yourself. You've gotta be careful here taking
that planty and also just be careful having so much
like unprotected medieval sex with Kristin Cole. He is a
bad bet, babe.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
He is Kristen Cole. Listen. I'm not gonna begrudge Allison
for taking her pleasure where she.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Finds she deserves. But there's ways to have pleasure that
don't include gang press.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
But Christen Cole got to pull out. You can't.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
You can't be planning. His planning game is terrible. Game
is terrible.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Like but you know he's.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Trying to make an air. I know that man has
plans like he is trying to make an air. Also,
something I love this episode for Alison and I think
is a huge part of what we're probably going to
talk about, like in this episode, about the way that
the show is adapting, you know, Blood and Fire is
I love that we get this side of Allison where
(09:28):
after the iconic meeting in the sept where you know,
the meme makers have been delivering with those really dude,
it's that face with It's like Raniera and her face
card is so sharp and it's giving like you are
a dumb bitch, Like what the fuck you just mixed
up the two most regular names in the hole of
the King and Allison's face where she's just like, oh shit,
(09:52):
Like I oh.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
That's right, there was another egg on.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
You know, he's only like the most famous and accomplished
time you could. I've just spoken to Ranera and there's
that great one of Ranera's face. She's like, if I
send this to you, then you know you've been a
dumb bitch. And it's just that Anna. But I love
that what we're getting here that I have to say
I was not expecting, even as an Alison apologist. Alison
(10:17):
is like racking.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
She's thinking about it.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
King's Land and she's trying to find books.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
She's been a history about that conversation.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
She is like, oh my god, I need to know
this isn't true, Like I can't have done all of
this for nothing.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
I think you're exactly right. She heard she saw the
reaction that Raniera had to the mention of egg On
and the Song of Ice and Fire, and now she's like,
song of Ice and Fire, I have to what is that.
That's clearly a big deal and something that was never
shared with me. I need to find out what this is.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
And I I love how the next part where she
asks the gramm Mace that you start to see like
she's actually getting She's like oscing other people.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Yeah, so she asks, you know, for a while, did
you think that my husband, the aged Visarus, really wanted
to go on to succeed him? And I think or
a while, very wisely says, I'm just the grandmaster. Do
you think the king talks to me about shit like that?
Speaker 2 (11:19):
I'm just putting leeches on his back like that's it.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
I'm just putting I'm just like making poltices like I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
We're going to take a quick break. I'm moving right back.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
We're back on Dragonstone. The Black Council, as mentioned, is
a mess. The Greens are on the march, Christen Cole
is cutting down the holdings of various members of this council,
and the Blacks are not moving, and the is no
word to be seen, no news out of Harron Hall.
Where Damon is doing.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Who knows, And he's like getting you know, Baylor's sending
him Ravens and this guy's just like not even this guy.
He's like, he's like, ah, I'm gonna just live the
deadbeat dad life. You ever get here from me? Like nothing,
you don't. I don't even know who you are. Who's
who's Baylor? I don't remember.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Yeah, I think they would be troubled to know the truth,
which is Damon doesn't know day from night, waking from sleeping,
up from down, he doesn't know where he is lost it.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
He's getting Haron Hold, He's getting her at Hold in
a major way.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
NY's show is now there and she is trying to
take control, but it's very very difficult. Corless His surprise
arrival steadies things because even the Evesa Council is misogynous. Uh,
and even Jace is very clearly annoyed that Mummy is
off and you know, and Jase's we talk about face cards.
(12:56):
Oh my gosh, his is delivering young Henry, I can't
call it is giving like a twink Henry cavill vibe
just deliver.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
With English. And in Game of Thrones, yeah, I also
I loved Carliss's arrival because I loved the relationship between
Renie and Carlis. And I feel like that was really
him saying like, sorry, I had it a legitimate child,
but I'm here to back you, like, don't talk to
don't talk to my wife like that. I mean, it
is so embarrassing. We've seen, you know, we lived through
(13:32):
all of Game of Thrones. We loved it, we watched it,
we dissected it, and you never saw these men talk
to the men in charge in this way when there
was one of these counsels, Like, it's so wild to
kind of see the way that they just dismiss Raynee
and he said, why should your voice be any louder
than ours? This is the one who should be the leader.
(13:53):
Are you mad? Like do you want to have your
head bitten off by a dragon? Because I'm sick of you?
Like it's crazy, please, like what are you talking?
Speaker 1 (14:00):
And it's also a great moment, because Corlis doesn't outshine Rainey's.
To your point, it's that this is the most relationship
goals relationship in the entirety of Game of Thrones, How's
the Dragon, the entire adaptation of this world equal. They
support each other. They don't agree all the time, clearly,
but they support each other. They promote each other, and
they're always looking out for each other's best interests. Over
(14:23):
in Duskndale, Cole's victorious army is chopping the heads off
of how Starkland members who refuse to bend the knee.
Lord Darkland calls Cole by his new nickname, the Kingmaker,
spits on his boots, and then gets his head cut off.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
I just thought that was really cool because in the
in the books, it's more seen like he's the king
Maker because he's supported Eggon and it's this great thing.
But I kind of like how in this they almost
make it like it's like an insult. Oh, It's like, yeah,
king Maker, because look at the shit you'll do to
keep this fucking idiot king in you know. He says, Tom,
there's no honor anymore.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
And there's I think all a very strong class consciousness
that comes to the to the four in the show,
and it's kind of more submerged in the books because
everybody's like Chris and Cole, you're like a night. You're
Dornish night from nowhere, Like you're not a real guy,
you're not a you're barely a member of the nobility,
(15:21):
and here you are chopping the heads off of like
loyal servants of the queen, like you're somebody, shut the
fuck up. Cole's next target, very surprising to everyone, most
notably GWayne High Tower is not gonna be Hairn Hall,
where Damon sits with no army. It's gonna be Rook's Rest,
which is a smaller coastal castle owned by another member
(15:45):
of Vernieres's council, Lord Stone.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Yeah, and it's a very like it's a very you
can tell this is just like an older guy. He's
just chilling in his little castle. Like there's not really
much of a reason to take it Stratia over.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Harron Hall, except that it's close to Dragonstone across the water.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Well Aimond has Aimon knows why they should take it,
but it's unclear to kind of everyone else.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
So King Agan is raging over the Red Keep at
the slow movements of the army. He's talking with his
small Council's like the armies, like, what are we doing?
We're taking these smaller castles. We're going the opposite direction
from Aaron Hall. Why are we doing that. Laris is like,
don't worry about it. I'm sure christ and Cole knows
what he's doing. Meanwhile, Heron Hall, I've lived there.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
He's like, he's going crazy.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
I burned my dad and my brother there.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Yeah, He's like, I know it well. He's like, this
is actually a trap for Damon. Yeah, like he's gonna
be stuck in that, he's gonna get dripped on, like
and also it's probably gonna be driving him crazy, Like
just to burn it out, that might drive him crazy.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
I took all the gold out. There's nothing there. It's
a fucking huge dump. He can't do anything from there.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Look, I am not gonna lie. I'm a Laris hater.
I remember when Laris Tarantino for fetish business on Alison.
But I will say he's looking sharp, he's being logical,
he's rising up the ranks. He's acting less creepy. He's
kind of seeming more like an actual ally to Alison.
(17:18):
He's he's just he's doing well. I remember seeing him.
It was looking at him in his little purple you know,
get up, and I thought, he's looking good. It's been
a good season for him. I'm well done to that man.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
In this episode wearing a doublet. It's very reminiscent of
like low level mobs from the aaa AT, like elden
Ring mobs. Anyway, he points out Damon as no army.
Heron Hall's are dump, there's no money there. Meanwhile, Christian
Cole is on the move, very active, knocking off black
(17:50):
castles one after another. Amen is like that guy's right,
haroon hawkm wait, and then he flexes on his brother
by openly admitting that, yeah, me and Cole have been
planning this whole thing without you.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Yeah, and we know that if we get Rooks rest
then basically Dragonstone's caught off by Land, Like actually, there's
this whole plan, and Eggan's like, no, I want to
take Karen Hale, and everyone's just like shut up, man, like,
just shut up.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Even then dresses Eggon down in high Vala in a
humiliating fashion, pointing out that you know, Aimond and Cole
have been actively like doing actual war things while the
king has been like getting drunk carousing with his homies
that he is elevated to King's Guard and like picking
(18:39):
out nicknames for himself like egg On the magnanimous. Yeah,
egg this is such a great character, mom, because he
tries to answer in high Valarian and it's like just gibberish.
Quite clearly did not study it, Like Aimond is that
kid who's just been studying the whole time, but never
while you were out.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Carousing with your friends. I was studying the Blade aka
high Valarian. Also, I just want to say, I actually
couldn't believe I'm gonna have to go back and watch
it again. But like the first couple of times I
watched this, I was just like the way that they
use Eggon's new you know kings Guard in inverted commas,
who are just his friends as like background kind of
(19:19):
narrative hints are so good because they're always bumping into
each other, but they can't stand still.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
They're like scratching arm.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Next when they when they stand to leave the room
and follow egg On their they always like knock into
each other. It's this really small bit of visual storytelling
that works so well and you suddenly realize, oh wow,
when I've seen even Kristin Cole, when I see that
man standing behind you, he's standing straight, he's got the back,
he knows what's going on. He's he looks at least
(19:50):
vaguely alert. And these really are just Eggon's friends. And
I just thought it was such a smart little bit
to pepper through. And you're really thinking like, oh, Eggon,
you're done for like you are, You're it's not going
well for you.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
So Egun, humiliated, has essentially no choice in front of
his gathered small counsel, but to accede to Colin Aman's plan.
Alison meets with Laris. Laris comes to her chambers. He's like, hey,
didn't see you in the small council meeting. What's going on.
She's like, yeah, I'm not feeling ate.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Too much pie like it was.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Yeah, And he looks good at the empty flagon of
plant and he says, ah.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Alison, why didn't you hide that? Like you gotta be
like you're feeling too casual, too comfortable, like in this
game of Thrones that you are playing, like that's gonna
take you down. You can't be you can't be ever
letting that happen also something I loved here another great
moment that I think shows that you have women working
on this show who are being really thoughtful. Alison when
(20:53):
when he comes in, Alison is using like hot rocks
wrapped in a bed sheet to deal with stomach cramps,
like it's like a water ball. Yeah, it's so good.
I was like, that is so good. And obviously Laris
is smart enough to know that that too, is and doing.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
It herself because she can't trust her handmaidens to not
which is really sad gossiping. Yeah, yeah, Laris notices the
books around It's like, wow, when did you become interested in?
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:27):
When did you new? And Alison just like, well, you know,
Visaras was so such a student of history, listening to
the voices of the past, and I'm just doing, you know,
the same to try and find some guidance. And Laris
then asks a pretty cutting question, which is do you
think it was these voices from the past that caused
(21:48):
the king to change his mind to eggon in these
final moments? And Alison is like, how do you know
what I've been seeing? She gives this look this yeah, yes,
that's a little too close to the bone for me, I.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Was gonna say, I wonder when he said that he
was it was like he had his little eyes were
like raised looking at her, and I'm like, okay, is
that Laris hinting that he overheard what Vi Sarah's really said,
or that he kind of has some understanding that there's
there was a mix up. It felt very it was
(22:21):
either a guest or I really waited.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
My sense is that Listen Laris is an outsider because
of his foot, his deformity. He's never he's always been
on the outside of things, and he's used that as
camouflaged an ability to get close to people and observe
them because people don't view him as a threat. And
I think he is a keen observer, and I think
(22:46):
he is observed in Alison a sudden doubt in the
way things are going. And I think he is like,
why this doubt all of a sudden? What's what do you?
Why this certain? And he asks cuttingly, I think if
Allison doubts the king the former king's intentions, And Alison
(23:13):
wisely says, and I think this is what she says
is very true, so extremely true. Is that Raniera and
Eggon's forces are going to kill each other. When they're
done killing each other, who's ever left alive will sit
on the.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Throne and they're gonna believe what they want to believe.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
They're going to believe what they want to believe, and
none of this will fucking matter, and having red fire
and blood, that's right.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Yeah, And also his intentions will not matter because also
history is written by the winner. Yeah, you know, and
we're going to see that as the show goes on.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
We go back to Heron Hall, where it can be
very fucking weird, folks.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Damon horror movie horror shit is good. The cinematography is amazing.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
So Damon is just wandering on the halls following an
apparition of himself wearing an eye patch like aimoned one eye.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Very foreshadowing.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
I think, yeah, he's got He takes his sword out.
He's following this ghostly figure and he finds himself in
the kitchens where Alice Rivers is worthing was our first
real meeting with.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Yeah, we a glimpse of her last time, but you
really get a sense of her this time.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
So there is no master here at Heron Hall. The
mester Alice says, fled because he just couldn't get the
hang of.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
This place, couldn't get settled.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
She's there mixing potions or something, and she says, you
know that trouble sleeping.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
I had. It can be hard to sleep in this
one test castle. How are you doing?
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Not a problem I have, but but but a problem
that many. She's like, I'm chilling, and she mentions that, well,
this place is cursed, and it was cursed from way
before egg On the conqueror burned hair in the Black.
Here it was cursed because Heron la Black, who was
a iron born raider who decided to put down roots
in the riverlands after conquering much of it, cut down
(25:09):
a massive grove of weird woods to clear the way
for his vast castle. And those wear woods, of course,
are are ancient.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
There, and some of them were hot trees, the magic
souls of the people who died.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
We've seen the kind of magic that one can interact
with from Game of Thrones and brands uh, you know,
adventures into the past through these trees. So those were
cut down without any care to what that meant, and
since then the place has been cursed. In fact, Damon,
you're sleeping on a bed made of werewood, So you
(25:44):
tell me what that's about. And then she has gone, yeah,
how's it going? And then she says, as a joke,
what I'm not a I'm not a person, I'm a
barn owl in human form, which felt like a joke,
but also like not a joke.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
No, definitely not a joke.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
We know that words exist in this world of people
who have the ability to commune with animals in magical ways.
So what does this mean? She realizes that. She immediately
says some very touches like the hot stove of Damon's
emotions and says.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Sounds like he's She's been in his mind, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
She seems to know a lot about what drives damoned
right now. Then she gives him some kind of potion
so that she can sleep. This will help you sleep.
You'll need your rest, You'll need your energy in order
to deal with what the things that you're going to
find here.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
And also because she can sense, she's like, look, if
you're trying to take a throne and make a claim yourself,
you're going to need some energy for that. And Damon's like, ah,
how does she know this? Also, I just want to say, damon,
when a woman who's obviously a witch, I just want
to say that I love a witch. Right, this woman's
obviously a witch. You call her a witch. Look, she's
(26:55):
that she's making a potion that looks like it's probably
made of organs of some She's licking her bloody fingers.
When she then gives you the potion and says this
will help you sleep, I would just say, don't drink it.
And look, I I'm someone who's dealt with a lot
of insomnia in my life. I understand the desperation of
needing a good night's sleep, but I would just say,
probably not a good idea.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Yeah, let me just so. The river Lands is an
ancient and mysterious place. They're right like within sight of
the walls of Heron Hall. Very close by is the
gods I Lake. The Gods I Lake has a island
on the middle that covered in were woods, the Island
of Faces. They call it the Faces because the face
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is carved in the heart trees, where it is rumored
that the children of the forest still reside. And all
of which is to say is this is a magical
place with lots of access to the hallucinogenic weir woods,
and I do wonder if what Alice is doing here
is not taking weirwood sap or we're with something pounding,
(28:01):
pounding it into different potions and feeding it to Damon
in his food, in his drink. However, you know, we've
seen how that affected brand and Game of Thrones, and
I do wonder if that's not what she's doing to
Damon for reasons unknown, I don't know why.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Yeah, but I agree because actually the thing about Bran
is when he was hallucinating, you know, he was young,
he was a child. He hadn't really committed.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
It looked at it like Ga Thrones. It looked very bloody,
sappy blood.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
But for him, he could he was getting to go
on these kind of like mind expanding journeys, right, But
we know that herllucinogens they kind of open doors to
parts of yourself you might be hiding or not want
to deal with. And Damon is definitely going through some
kind of like ego death, like young with dealing with
the horrors of what he did to Raniera. I mean,
(28:51):
in the opening scene when Raniera says you created me,
I was like my mind was blown. I was like
Oh my god, it's so true and like so many
many horrible ways.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Also, Brand had a Shirpa in the One Eyed Raven
who was guiding these visions and had been connected to
the Weirward network for for over a century. By the
point that we meet him, Damon is just tripping.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
With that just styl an ego death. It's it's going
badly for him.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
So Damon drinks this potion and next thing he knows,
it's an unknown amount of time later, it's daytime. It's
like he is just immediately he's dressed. He is sitting
at the table at the.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Meaning and finishing his sip.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Almost He's like what. And he is sitting there with
Sir Williem Blackwood, who he doesn't remember being introduced to.
And Sir Blackwood is of course very very eager to
feel an army, especially if it's gonna be sent against
the Brackens and to raise the banner of the One
True Queen Rner Targarian.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Who, by the way, he remembers, he was once buying
for Hand's spirit. And I feel like over at storms
End when he brought that up, I did kind of
feel like he's looking at Damon and he's thinking like
you are mats, like maybe if I maybe, if I
do this, there's gonna be space for a new king,
because like you are not looking well.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
And now recall at that meeting in the Storm's Land
in storms End, when Sir Willem was part of you know,
the matchmaking sessions for Riverira, he got into a duel
with a Bracken and actually ended up killing him. So
this shit has been going on a long time. And
certainly uh Will and Blackwood uh can't wait to march
(30:40):
against the Brackens. At the Green Council back at the
Red Keep, we learned that uh, you know, refueling the
dragons is expensive. They eat a lot of sheep and
lamb and whatever, and it's really stressing the resources of
the Crowlens. Eggon is like, I don't give a shit
a bowing infrastructure week, okay, which is funny.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
You can tell he's like sick of it because there
was that little period of time near the beginning of
his reign right where he actually seemed to like understand
that this small folk were important and they needed to
be involved, and there was kind of we still knew
he was like a creepy rapist who doesn't have any
like real good ideas. But there was a moment where
I was like, oh, maybe he kind of does for
(31:25):
some reason, he's understanding this, but now he's just like, no,
I'm bored. Also, can I just say something, Yeah, why
do the dragon riding families? Why do the Targarians not
have like a farming infrastructure? I feel like you could
just have there should just be farms that solely are
made to feed. I kind of I get it, some
kind of like arrogance of like, well, the small folk,
(31:48):
it's this feudal mindset. They can deliver it, but they
should realize, like, especially when you've got vaguar hanging around,
do you need like a lot of sheep like a
normal which, by the way, we really get to see
how big Vega's back and Vega is and I it's
so good.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
So Eggon storms off who he goes to his mummy
to complain. He finds Allison in his room looking for
King Vassarius's books. King Eggon pours himself a big glass
of wine, starts.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
To drink, and he's already drunk.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
He's already drink. If you're telling Alison, like my counsel
will listen to me call an Amon. They're doing stuff
by my back. And Alison, who I think it's fair
to say dislikes her sons.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
She hates because she knows she she recalls all the
women she had to pay off. Yeah, the egg m rape.
Then obviously she is someone who was, you know, essentially
sold to be a child bride to a king, so
she has some empathy for those women. She doesn't like him,
And in this sequence as well, I think she is
(32:54):
losing the last of her focks to give. This is
this is Sabrina Carpenter, Like my giver focks are on vacation.
She is, she's been. She usually like has a certain
distance I feel like and maybe a disassociation that allows
her to continue her role as dowager queen. But here
she's like, she's like, you're an under position. You are
(33:19):
here are because we put you here, and we sacrifice
so much to get you here, and you just need
to shut your fucking mouth, do nothing. Just shut up.
She's like, that's what we put you here to do nothing?
Dad was you're ten times the king that you're just missings.
I have to say in this episode she's missing very
interesting the kind of like Golden Sepia glow that Visara's
(33:41):
is recalled in through Allison and she basically says, egg on,
shut up in trible like shut up. We don't want
to let the experts do their thing, and just shut
the fuck up. The Green Army has gathered outside of
the walls of Expressed and they begin laying siege to
the middle of the daytime and calls like, we go forwards.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Get a surprise, It's gonna be great. We go forward
as part of the plant. Gawayne is like whoa, whoa
the dragons like they can see us and ship like,
shouldn't we wait till darkness? Like I'm all for the attack?
Wells wait.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
I just want to say as well. We get the
best moment here because this is one of my probably
my favorite lines definitely from House to Dragon and maybe
from Game of Thrones, and we get this great moment
with Sir Gawayne, who I feel like so far we
haven't really gotten to know him very well.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Wonderful Freddy Fox.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
He's Freddy Fox is so good in this moment because
Sir Christen says to him in his arrogant stupid they'll
faith and his and his like stuck up voice. He goes,
are you scared, and and he goes worse, I'm rational, yeah,
and I'm like, I'm a brain, so.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
I'm thinking about it.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
He's like, I'm actually thinking about and Kristin Cole is
emboldened by how easy it's been for him to turn
these you know, smaller kind of villages and communities, but
he is not thinking about the fact that they are,
that they are small, and they haven't they've been uncontested essentially.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
But this is and this is Cole's plan. Listen, He's
He's knocked off a bunch of castles, black castles on
the way. He has accepted the bent knees of those forces,
namely the Darklands, who we recently saw get their heads
chopped off in Ben the Knee, and he is more
than willing to use those forces as bait, hopefully to
(35:25):
lure a Black Dragon to the battle where it will
be ambushed by Vagar, who is waiting in the woods
some distance away for the signal.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Okay, so I have to say, before we get into
this final third act, which is so fantastic, I need
to talk about this line that was earlier when he
was trying to turn some of the kind of smaller
folk and the knights to reneer it to Allison's cause
he called Vernera the horror of dragon Star.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
That's a little strong.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
I'm like, this man is trying to get in the
history books. He's trying to come up with nicknames. He's
trying to come up with insults that will be written
down for his ex that was like, by the way,
like ten years ago at this point, or something like,
my friend, I hate you so much and I'm so
happy that your downfall is clearly imminent because you are
(36:15):
just the worst.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
I need a I definitely need a general who is
just a little bit more business like than Kristen call.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
A little bit less emotional. You know, it's women being emotional.
But both Ranera and Allison have a very closed off,
like quite sensible demeanor. Kristen calls out here like writing
distracts about Riniera while he's chopping man's heads.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
You're a pure mad dog.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
He's just he's an imbecile. Also, I want to say,
you know, it's hard to kind of capture it in
the recap, but the reveal of what calls Plan truly
is it made me gasp. The way they tell the
story on the screen where you see this kind of
what looks like a failing siege in the daytime, but
(37:03):
as soon as Renee appears on Relase, you know that
something else is happening, because Cole says, this is the plan. Yeah,
and we see Amond kind of rise up on or
we see Aimond on Vagar in some kind of Jurassic
Park esque like you can't tell the dinosaur from the woods,
and it's so scary and it's really good, and I
(37:26):
was like, oh, I fucking hate Kristin Cole, but this
is actually such a good plan. He didn't execute it well,
but he did.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Come on, we'll get to that because there was things
beyond his control. So on Dragon saw Christian Cole apologists
coming through the news of the fall of Duskindale shakes
the Black Council that is the seed of House Darkland.
Sir Stephan Darkland is one of Rniera's sworn swords. He
is the Knight that accompanied her into kings Landing for
(37:53):
the secret meeting. So this is a big deal and
one that's very personally felt. They learned that Ranier was
over talking to Alison to hopefully sue for peace. That
option is now gone. Now it's time for war. Jace
is like, okay, I'm done serving, looks send a dragon.
Raniera says, good idea, it's got to be me, like
(38:15):
I've exhausted every effort to forge a peaceful solution. She hasn't,
but she thinks that yes, and she's like, I have
to go, and everybody's like, no, you're the queen, you
can't go, like all our hopes are pinned on you.
Jays's like, I'll go. I'm gonna go, and everybody's like,
you're too young and inexperienced. What are you talking about?
And then Renee finally is like, but it has to
(38:38):
be met. I know how to fight, I'm experienced. Mainly,
this is the biggest dragon that we have currently available
to us. I will meet Cole. Everybody's fall silent because
they know this is absolutely the move. That's what we
have to do. Yea and Raniera. You could tell that.
Raniera is like fuck, like that's my bestie. Yeah, I
might lose my bestie right now.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
I will say another You know we love Raniera. She
has the rightful queen. But another significant kind of mistake
she made. She should have made Renise her hand, so
Renie could have stood in in those meetings before she
went away.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Having no hand right now is a mess.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
It's a mess. Also, I do want to just say
I do want to kind of apologize a little bit
to Raniera because last week we were kind of dragging
on her for not having a plan when she went
to see Alison, and I do still think that stands.
But on rewatching that before I watched this episode, I
do think she is truly like dumb struck by how
stupid Allison is in that moment, Like whatever plan she
might have had, I think she is like, what are
(39:35):
you talking about? Like you you? I think she was
just shocked. So you know what, Raniera, I like you.
I hope that this plan goes well for you and
and I do. But I will also say I do
think when Cole and Amen made this plan, I do
think they believe that Raniera would be the one to go.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
I think they thought. I think they were hoping. I
think they were really I think they were hoping it would.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
She's She's very We've seen her be very, very impulsive.
We've seen her ignore the smartest plan to go for
the most impactful plan. And for the most part for
her it has worked. But I think that in this moment,
the Reneise plan is is the best plan. And I
love Renise, She's brave. I also think Reniee is feeling
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a slightly freed of the shackles that her great happy
marriage have given her because she's learned about this betrayal
from Carless, So I think she is a little bit
more open to going to battle. But Jason, I just
wanted to ask you this as well, because Reniera kind
of you know, she talks about how she wanted to
settle for peace, she wanted to try her best, because
(40:38):
really sending a dragon to war, this is the moment
where there's like no going back right now. She said, like,
this is huge.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
You're gonna lose one side or the other is gonna
lose an important piece and an important person. So back
in the red keep eggon now fully shit faced is like,
you know what, fuck it, I'm going I'm gonna.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
Go, oh my go. And he doesn't have a real
so his idiot friends just get him and they send
him out on this little baby.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Back on Dragonstone. Raniera understanding now that we're moving into
a different phase of the war one that might take
her life. Tells Jace about the Song of Ice and Fire.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
This gave me goosebumps. Way, Emma Darsie read it. As
we see the dragons approaching Rook's Rest, Oh, it's just
so good.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
So Raniera and me Lys arrive outside of Brooks Rest
and they immediately strike at Cole's army. Cole then sends
the signal for Vagar, but instead it's egg On, a
drunken Eggon and Sunfire who fly overhead towards the battle.
They fly right over aimin Ty.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
Sunfire is so tiny it's it's not big enough.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
Aimond is like fuck as he watches his idiot brother,
he says, calls him an idiot, and then he's like,
you know what, let me see Let's see how you
Let's see how this plays on, So this will be interesting.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Could be interesting.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
When Cole sees that it's the King's dragon, you know,
Sir Gawayne is like, wait, who's dragon sent? This is
your plan?
Speaker 2 (42:10):
He's like, is this was your plant? And you send
out this idiot king?
Speaker 1 (42:13):
And then Cole is like, wait, oh shit, that's the
king and GWayne is like, you're a fucking moron, Cole
is like, okay, we have to change. Okay, we gotta
go for now. We have to change the plan completely,
and he's like, okay. King's yeah, hey man, this is it.
By the way, you're protected by divine proves.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
Nothing bad will happen to me.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
You are protected by the gods of the seventh wants a.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
Hand to protect the king and the king affair.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
And it's gonna be great. Go forward, it's gonna be great.
And he just is like, he sends them forward, and
he hope. He's hoping now that Amon is gonna show
up whenever Renie and Maylee's absolutely fuck Sunfire and ha
gone up. They fucked him up bad. He is a mass.
He's Sunfire is getting his her turn open. And then
(43:08):
finally aimoned is rises and is flying towards the battle,
and Eggon looks and is like, oh, thank god, my
brother's here, save my ass. It's gonna be great. But
then that big old mouth of Vegars opens with the flames.
You can see the flame he generating down in the
throat and boom hits it Aimed clearly not caring like
(43:29):
who is getting flamed here, and just burns up the
tangled dragons, his brother Eggon the king, and also Malise
and Rainyes, and next thing you know, Eggon and Sunfire
go tumbling to the earth where they crash into the
woods and leave a huge, flaming, fucking crater. And now
(43:50):
you're thinking, certainly, I'm thinking King's down, perhaps dead. Get
out of there, because also as.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Well, like this is gonna be seen as obviously huge
declaration of war because you're gonna get blamed, but also
great success for Raniera. So I'm saying, just get out
of that now, because if if Egon's debt, you bloody
their nose, and you can say, well, there's no king now,
so surely Vaniera is the rightful app.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
You bloody their nose now. Instead, Maylye straps in and
orders Mayle's to attack. Now. I think what's going through
her mind is, well, they'll just name Aimond, probably right.
And secondarily, I did the right thing at the at
the dragon Pit last season, the right thing, the right
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thing morally and legally, because it was not my place
to just kill the entire Green faction.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
That said, I do think she's making it up.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
If I don't finish the job now, people are gonna
be like what the fuck is up with you? So
I need to finish. I need to make sure the
job is finished, and she turns back.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
She has been someone who throughout this has been worried
about the cost of war, the amount of bodies, the bloodshed,
and I think she does feel a guilt for not
doing that in the dragon pit, even though in the
moment she hoped there was a root for peace, but
now I think she understands there isn't, at least not
according to Raniera. So I think that she feels like
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this is a chance for her to stop that bloodshed.
I also feel like there is a resignation. Eve Best
does such a fantastic job here where you know, Renise
is never gonna get their throne that she should have had.
Renise knows her husband has betrayed her and not kept
it from her, you know, has let her see that.
(45:42):
She knows that now it's unlikely that their family will
have a female heir, which she hoped for, and she
can see that this war is coming. So I do
feel like in that moment where she straps into the
saddle and turns around, she's aware of the cost of
this decision, but she feels like it's the right thing
to do. So this is probably when she feels the
most powerful and like she has her most agency, is
(46:04):
when she's in the sky with Malise, so she can
make a historical moment here like for the books. She
can if she can achieve this. And also, you know,
I think there's also a little bit of Vigar was
stolen from her family. You know, we know who Aimon
stole Vegar. So I think there are so many layers
to this, and you see all of them in her face.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
I think there's also an aspect of she's a targarian
princess in a part of a family that has a
rich martial tradition. The women have been dragon writers and
have taken part in the war. And this is how
you die, if you're gonna die, is how you die
a fire. It's a warrior's death, right, It's a warrior
die with your dragon. She turns back and actually fucking
(46:47):
kicks Vigars. My god, down's Vigar. And it shows you
that Renie is experienced and smart and wiley. And then
while Vigar is huge journing, he's just playing trying his
luck because his dragon's big. You know, she's strategic. She
goes inverted, uses gravity to pull Vagar down, and down's Vigar,
(47:09):
who crashes into Vega's guts like huge wound causes Vigar
to crash into the ground, sending the entire army into chaos.
Vigar is like stepping on guys. It's a fucking miss.
Cole is in concussion protocol, doesn't know where he is.
Belle is majorly wrong. And now Rene's goes finally iphen.
Speaker 2 (47:29):
Someone was gonna chop Cole's head off, like I was, like,
just chop it off.
Speaker 1 (47:33):
Renie's goes heading for the sea and now she really
should go now like she got two strikes.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
Now, babe, go you smashed it, you killed it. You're
gonna be please go, You're gonna be the hand, You're
gonna be celebrated. You might end up being Vaniera's kings. God,
she needs one, like come on.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
But again, I think she's thinking the army is still outside,
looks right, like it's not. The siege is not over.
I'm not sure Vegar is finished. Again, I have that
there is that criticism that I should have done more
at the dragon pit, and so let me just go
and maybe take a look and see what the status
(48:15):
of the king is in Vegar and see if the
job is done okay?
Speaker 2 (48:18):
And also do you think there is because I have
to say, I do think how the dragon is doing
a really good job kind of putting paid to the
idea that Targarian madness is this all consuming thing that's
always happening, and they all die and they're all crazy
and they're all doing crazy stuff. But do you think
there is possibly like that little fire of Targarian dragon blood,
(48:39):
of like wanting to burn things. Do you think there's
a little bit of that? Because this really did feel
like the logical choice was leave. Now you've actually scored
two fantastic wins. I think no.
Speaker 1 (48:51):
I think she wanted to just see. I think she
wanted to I think she wanted to be able to
go back and report to the queen. Here is Here
is where we are. The king is either dead or not,
Vegar is either seriously injured or not, and the siege
is over. I think if she, I think she's thinking,
(49:12):
if I fly back now and the siege is still
ongoing and Vegar is still up, they're gonna say, what
the fuck did you do? Why are you here? The
castle has been taken, the army is still like active
and the king is not dead, like yeah, like you
need to come back with a win or don't come back,
(49:32):
And I think she's she's sensitive to that comment. Well, unfortunately,
Melesse and Rainie get ambushed by Vagar on the turnaround,
and this time it's Vegar gets to drop on them,
crushes Meyles's neck.
Speaker 2 (49:48):
Yeah, almost like bites off its head.
Speaker 1 (49:51):
There's this terrible moment where Meyle's and Rainy's know it's
over and they're just locking and and it's it's a
bookend of that moment where when ray Niece is getting
ready to leave, she like is petting the side of
mainly the battle and there's a smile like the way
(50:13):
you'd smile at a horse, you know, and it's like
it's and it's tremendously sad. They go crashing into the
walls of Rook's rest and it's clear that that they're dead.
It's it's done. Cole struggles to his feet his bell rung,
wanders into the woods to find out your grace, you
know what he is the job and what he finds
(50:39):
is Sunfire looking real bad, probably about to die or
near death, guts ripped out, still twitching but looking real,
real bad, and we don't see the king, but what
we see is aim And standing over the king with
his sword out. And when aim And clocks Coal there,
(51:02):
he's like okay, and he puts his sword away and
perhaps thinking my brother looks fucked up enough, like yeah,
let time take its toll and that will finish the job.
Whatever the case. If the king is alive after this,
he's gonna be real fucked up. And that is the
end of the episode. And it is a big one,
a huge episode.
Speaker 2 (51:22):
Huge episode. I also loved the I think in that moment,
I think Aimond is as much as he is like
a deceitful, like cunning person, you know, he's also incredibly clever.
And I really felt in that moment that he was
like wait. He takes a long time to put his
sword back, and I think he's weighing up. He's looking
at Coal and he's thinking, can I trust trust you?
Speaker 1 (51:42):
Can I trust I do this?
Speaker 2 (51:43):
Are you going to use it against me in the future,
Like yeah, we're bros. We planned this plan. It didn't
go great, but it kind of went to plan in
a way. But I don't know if I can trust
you to just like, let me see you, let you
see me kill the king.
Speaker 1 (51:57):
Also in a change from the books, in a change
that I think actually fits with the books as retrospective
war propaganda. Right, they don't ever mention. First of the
books frame Sunfire and Eggon going into war as like
a twin plan, like Aimoned and Eggon came up with
(52:20):
this plant together. It was the brothers together, working together
as a team. Yeah, And it is not framed as
the drunken king staggered into battle, and there is no
mention of Aimon. I mean, I think it's pretty unambiguous, right,
He's hoping that he's thinking, okay, well, if Egon gets
his clock cleaned here, I'm king perfect, like, let's let
(52:42):
this happen, and in fact takes an active role in
trying to get it to happen by blasting his brother
and may Leason Rainyes together and then is absolutely caught
in the act of being about to finish off the king,
like he was gonna believe he was going to do it.
Speaker 2 (53:01):
Oh, he was going to do it. It would have just
taken like a stab to the hall, something he wouldn't
have had to do anything too obvious.
Speaker 1 (53:06):
And I think that frames aimed in a much different
light than the books do, so that is very interesting
to me. It shows a different and a much more
cunning side to Age.
Speaker 2 (53:18):
So before we kind of turned the mics on, you
were talking about this the way that the show kind
of reframes the books as almost like propaganda. So could
you talk a little bit about that, because I do
think that after this episode we are in that space
of like you were saying, like it's like misogynist propaganda, and.
Speaker 1 (53:35):
Yeah, I think that. I think Fire and Blood is
essentially misogynist propaganda that downplays the roles of Allison and Reniera.
Frames Reniera's decisions certainly later decisions, mid war decisions, maybe
not the decisions that are happening right now, but like
happened further on into the war as like the acts
(53:55):
of a despotic, emotional, crazed woman, and and mainly frame
the moves of Christen Cole and Aimond and Damon as
like the great warriors of the Age. You know, it's
it is war propaganda, absolutely war propaganda. And one that
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and one that written by men, like written by several men,
some of whom were not even there at the time.
So this is the stuff that's coming to the four
in the show. Is actually super interesting in the way
that it adds a depth of realism to the story.
Can't wait to see what happens next, can't wait to
(54:39):
see what the status of the king is, how people
are going to react to end if Cole I mean
this is Cole has now witnessed something that is very
dangerous and I and he is on treacherous ground now because.
Speaker 2 (54:55):
Especially because Amond was willing to kill his brother, So
I don't think he's going to kill it, care about
killing it bro he has that's just his friend.
Speaker 1 (55:02):
He has to be very careful now because the king
is he alive dead I don't know, but could Aimond
come to power, yes, very possiblely, and Cole has information
that would be very dead Like he cannot ever mention
this thing. He's gonna have to say, I don't know anything.
(55:23):
So it's very interesting going forward. Can't wait to see
what happens when next we see an episode.
Speaker 2 (55:28):
Also, I'm really intrigued because, like Cole's plan, even though
it did take a dragon and Allison knows this was
col and Amen's doing. The King is like grilled cheese now,
you know, like whatever happens to him, he's not doing well.
Speaker 1 (55:41):
So like King's what was the cost of.
Speaker 2 (55:43):
The True Air int Commas like the Usurper? But like
was was him not being able to rule like worth,
you know, taking out Malise and Renise. I would probably
actually say, like yes, because he was just a pawn,
but I don't know if it will look that way
to the High Tower in the Green faction, I think
Eggon was an important pawn. So I'm also interested to
(56:04):
maybe see Kristen Cole finally kind of getting some come
upance for his you know, reckless behavior. So I can't
wait for the next episode.
Speaker 1 (56:13):
We'll be right back up in a quick brick. Let's
go to the scorecard. Who's winning right now? After the
Battle of Rook's Rest, I have a take, Okay, after
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this battle, on Fire is down there. The Greens had
three dragons that could find to Sarrion Darren, the Darings, who,
by the way over an old time have not seen it. Vagar.
Of course, we just saw an action and Sunfire. So
on Fire is down and out of it, dead or whatever,
but certainly out of it. Vagar is gonna have to
(56:57):
stay around King's Landing because you can't lose.
Speaker 2 (57:00):
That a lot of sheep as well.
Speaker 1 (57:02):
Send them all the black dragons, you know where Vegar
is gonna be. Vagar's gonna be at King's landing. Send
jasend Bayless and Rania, send everybody, Send all of them
and just go burn Green shit like, yeah, send them
all now, you over like. Even if you lose two
or three, they've only got to like And if you
knock out Vegar, it's fucking over it. I think the
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Green position has been very strong up until now, but
they lost a lot of men. Vegar is gonna be
super super tired and is wounded. Sunfire is out of it,
the King is roasted. I think if the Blacks are
gonna make a move now is actually a great time
to it would be great. I think the Greens are
less strong than they seem. But we'll see what happens.
Speaker 2 (57:47):
We'll see what happens on.
Speaker 1 (57:49):
The next couple of episodes of X Ray Vision. We're
gonna be diving into House of the Dragon, of course,
and of course continue coverage of the Acolyte and with
some other surprises in there for you. That's it for
this episode. Thanks for listening. Bye x ray Vision is
(58:11):
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Speaker 2 (58:31):
Special thanks to Soul Rubin and Chris Lord, Kenny Goodman
and Heidi Our discoored moderata
Warning, today's episode can hit spoilers for House of the
Dragons season two, episode four, Do not watch it, Do
do before you watch it. Hello, my name is Jason
(00:28):
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Speaker 2 (00:44):
In today's episode in the Airlock, we will be diving
into that shocking episode Bob Housing the Dragon episode four,
and what an episode it was, and we'll be going
to the scorecard to see who's winning, who's losing, who's
catching a point. After this wild episode of How's of
the Dragon?
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Shall we Be Dead? How's to the Dragon? Season two,
episode four, Damon's weird dreams continue and are they dreams?
What's going on? I'm eager to dive into this with
you because I think we get something like answers shortly
in this episode. So this time he finds himself in
(01:25):
the throne room in the Red Keep. Young Raniera is
there and she is just like unleashing a harangue on him,
but it's muted. It's hard for him to hear. It's
cloudy for some of it, right, But the thing that
we definitely hear is Raniera saying to Damon, well, you know,
Visa's loved me more than he loved you, which is
(01:47):
why he chose me. And this enrages Damon to no end.
He cuts off her head, but the head continues to
speak to him, and it's saying that there's been a raven.
And then suddenly Damon comes to and it's Sir Simon
pounding on his door, saying, there's been a raven. You
know there's been a message. Damon learns from Sir Strong
(02:07):
that the Greens, led by our favorite Christen, call mister
hair mister bowl cut. Christ Oh you know what I
have to say.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
I just want to thank whoever gave this man the
haircut that he deserves. I saw a lot of people
and they were like, oh, I'm really upset. You know,
the most evil, moral, bad villainous thing has been done
on this show is giving Fabian this haircut. No, that's
the haircut Christian Cole deserves. He undeserved to look sexy.
He doesn't deserve to look chivalrous give him that bad
(02:37):
ball haircut, and it is representative of the bad choices
that he is gonna make in this episode.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
The most jilted Boyfriend. Oh yeah, like we're gonna get
to it.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
But there is a line in this where I literally
like wanted to throw the remote at the TV and
just be like fucking get over it. Like just fucking
get over it.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
I know you tried to tell the Queen to Bee
that she should run away and pick oranges with you,
and she was like, are you fucking crazy? And he is.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
The FAA gives him merely Alcott with one of the
all time great reaction memes. There.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
So Damon learns that Christen Cole is at the head
of a steadily growing army that is cutting a swath
through the crown Lands and the river Lands. A Rosby
and Stokeworth have gone over to the enemy, citing the
murder of Prince to Harris hashtag Damon's fault hashtag dame.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
As we also we kind of know that really though,
like Kristin Cole's going around chopping people's heads off. If
they don't know's it's like, yeah, it's it's like maybe
it's because of Gerris. Maybe not. I'm not not to,
you know, apologize for Damon committing child murder. But Kristin
Cole is also not doing an honorable thing here. Yeah,
he's doing it like bow.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Stuff for sure. So Damon has been awoken because he
expects to be treating with the Lord Paramount of the Riverlands,
Grover Tully, but instead he is summoned to the meat
room to treat with Grover's grandson, young Oscar Tully. And
he's a little and he's a little little young. He's
(04:08):
got some pluck, but he's a youngster for sure. Grover
is out of it, as we have heard, and Damon
kind of joking because he really needs the swords of
the Riverlands kind of joking is like, hey, Oscar, maybe
you could quicken him on.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
His way, you know, just like put a pillow over his.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Head and a silken pillow over your grits. And Oscar
is like, are you fuking? I love? Are you fucking kidding?
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Like that is the most like Tagarian joke ever, Like, Damon,
you could joke about that because you guys would do
that all the time. This is just the sweet kid
who loves his granddad his granddad literally raised him off.
His father died, Like please, and Damon and again.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Like you're coming off of the news that you engineered
the your side, and certainly you yourself had a role
in it, the engineer the murder of a child. I
think now is the time to pump the brakes a
little bit on crazy, like kill your family. M Yeah,
like just be a chill guy right now. Anyway, Oscar
(05:13):
says like this is that's not how we do it.
And also I can't make decisions while my grandsire, Lord
Paramount of the Riverland score for Toally, is still alive,
and so that's not the way we do things. That
Damon is extremely frustrated, so he's like, okay, there's already war.
I understand now why the Brackens and the Blackwoods are
going at it hammer and tongs without any oversight from
(05:35):
their lord Paramount, because this is like a rudderless ship
over here. So send me the Blackwoods because those are
the ones who declared for Rania and maybe I like killing. Yeah,
they like killing, and they're ready to fucking go on
drift Bark Rainy's chats with Alan at the show such
a good moment Rainey's is the best. This is a
(05:58):
spotlight episode for her, and we learn from their conversation
that Allan is Corliss's bestard son and that Rainie snows yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
And the thing that I really loved about this is like,
so at first you can't tell. You're like, is she
being like weird? Is this like a bad moment for Reniese?
Is she like doing some weird like fetishization. She's talking
about his comely mother, and then you see Corliss walk
behind him and You're like, oh, no, that's his son.
This is this is top tier casting. This is his son.
(06:30):
My favorite thing about this though that I think, you know,
last episode we had Renie ask Carlis to recognize I
think what did he want? He wanted them to recognize
the daughter, one of the daughters as the heir to Driftmark, right.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
He was like, what didn't you do?
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Yea? And he was he was like, yeah, I don't know,
Let's just keep this six year old Jeoffrey like, I'm
sure it'll be fine. But I love in this moment
that she sort of says to him, She kind of
says like, why are you keeping him hidden away? Like
he saved your life. He is your son, and I
feel like there's this inclcation of like you need an
ad like this is an adult man who saved your life,
(07:07):
who is a good man, Like don't keep him, hid
him beneath the waves, bring him to call.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Incredible performance by eve Best, who you could tell that
Remis is hurt by the fact that Corlis was sloppy
with his infidelity in a way that throws it in
her face. And at the same time, she is such
(07:32):
an honorable person and such a generous person that she's like, listen,
this hurts me obviously a lot.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
But you can't.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Yeah, you can't. This is unfair to him, who has
already proven his worth by saving your life. You can't
just like keep him shunted away in the shipyards pretending
that you don't know who the fuck he is, and
he knows who.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
You are exactly. It's like behave ball.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Yeah. So she tells Corliss in the course of that
conversation that she has to go to Dragonstone because Bayla
has sent a raven like you gotta come out here
because it's a mess. Ranara's off again and no one
knows where she is, and the Black Council is just
like arguing, so we need you. In King's Landing, Alison
(08:18):
gets some plan tea from Grandmaster or while she says
it's for someone else, but and the Grandmaster pretends that
he believes that it's for someone else.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I just have to say, like Alison, this I I
you are lucky that Kristin Cole is away because Raniera
did this shit. I believe he didn't like it. Like
I'm saying, protect yourself. You've gotta be careful here taking
that planty and also just be careful having so much
like unprotected medieval sex with Kristin Cole. He is a
bad bet, babe.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
He is Kristen Cole. Listen. I'm not gonna begrudge Allison
for taking her pleasure where she.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Finds she deserves. But there's ways to have pleasure that
don't include gang press.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
But Christen Cole got to pull out. You can't.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
You can't be planning. His planning game is terrible. Game
is terrible.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Like but you know he's.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Trying to make an air. I know that man has
plans like he is trying to make an air. Also,
something I love this episode for Alison and I think
is a huge part of what we're probably going to
talk about, like in this episode, about the way that
the show is adapting, you know, Blood and Fire is
I love that we get this side of Allison where
(09:28):
after the iconic meeting in the sept where you know,
the meme makers have been delivering with those really dude,
it's that face with It's like Raniera and her face
card is so sharp and it's giving like you are
a dumb bitch, Like what the fuck you just mixed
up the two most regular names in the hole of
the King and Allison's face where she's just like, oh shit,
(09:52):
Like I oh.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
That's right, there was another egg on.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
You know, he's only like the most famous and accomplished
time you could. I've just spoken to Ranera and there's
that great one of Ranera's face. She's like, if I
send this to you, then you know you've been a
dumb bitch. And it's just that Anna. But I love
that what we're getting here that I have to say
I was not expecting, even as an Alison apologist. Alison
(10:17):
is like racking.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
She's thinking about it.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
King's Land and she's trying to find books.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
She's been a history about that conversation.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
She is like, oh my god, I need to know
this isn't true, Like I can't have done all of
this for nothing.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
I think you're exactly right. She heard she saw the
reaction that Raniera had to the mention of egg On
and the Song of Ice and Fire, and now she's like,
song of Ice and Fire, I have to what is that.
That's clearly a big deal and something that was never
shared with me. I need to find out what this is.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
And I I love how the next part where she
asks the gramm Mace that you start to see like
she's actually getting She's like oscing other people.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Yeah, so she asks, you know, for a while, did
you think that my husband, the aged Visarus, really wanted
to go on to succeed him? And I think or
a while, very wisely says, I'm just the grandmaster. Do
you think the king talks to me about shit like that?
Speaker 2 (11:19):
I'm just putting leeches on his back like that's it.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
I'm just putting I'm just like making poltices like I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
We're going to take a quick break. I'm moving right back.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
We're back on Dragonstone. The Black Council, as mentioned, is
a mess. The Greens are on the march, Christen Cole
is cutting down the holdings of various members of this council,
and the Blacks are not moving, and the is no
word to be seen, no news out of Harron Hall.
Where Damon is doing.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Who knows, And he's like getting you know, Baylor's sending
him Ravens and this guy's just like not even this guy.
He's like, he's like, ah, I'm gonna just live the
deadbeat dad life. You ever get here from me? Like nothing,
you don't. I don't even know who you are. Who's
who's Baylor? I don't remember.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Yeah, I think they would be troubled to know the truth,
which is Damon doesn't know day from night, waking from sleeping,
up from down, he doesn't know where he is lost it.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
He's getting Haron Hold, He's getting her at Hold in
a major way.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
NY's show is now there and she is trying to
take control, but it's very very difficult. Corless His surprise
arrival steadies things because even the Evesa Council is misogynous. Uh,
and even Jace is very clearly annoyed that Mummy is
off and you know, and Jase's we talk about face cards.
(12:56):
Oh my gosh, his is delivering young Henry, I can't
call it is giving like a twink Henry cavill vibe
just deliver.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
With English. And in Game of Thrones, yeah, I also
I loved Carliss's arrival because I loved the relationship between
Renie and Carlis. And I feel like that was really
him saying like, sorry, I had it a legitimate child,
but I'm here to back you, like, don't talk to
don't talk to my wife like that. I mean, it
is so embarrassing. We've seen, you know, we lived through
(13:32):
all of Game of Thrones. We loved it, we watched it,
we dissected it, and you never saw these men talk
to the men in charge in this way when there
was one of these counsels, Like, it's so wild to
kind of see the way that they just dismiss Raynee
and he said, why should your voice be any louder
than ours? This is the one who should be the leader.
(13:53):
Are you mad? Like do you want to have your
head bitten off by a dragon? Because I'm sick of you?
Like it's crazy, please, like what are you talking?
Speaker 1 (14:00):
And it's also a great moment, because Corlis doesn't outshine Rainey's.
To your point, it's that this is the most relationship
goals relationship in the entirety of Game of Thrones, How's
the Dragon, the entire adaptation of this world equal. They
support each other. They don't agree all the time, clearly,
but they support each other. They promote each other, and
they're always looking out for each other's best interests. Over
(14:23):
in Duskndale, Cole's victorious army is chopping the heads off
of how Starkland members who refuse to bend the knee.
Lord Darkland calls Cole by his new nickname, the Kingmaker,
spits on his boots, and then gets his head cut off.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
I just thought that was really cool because in the
in the books, it's more seen like he's the king
Maker because he's supported Eggon and it's this great thing.
But I kind of like how in this they almost
make it like it's like an insult. Oh, It's like, yeah,
king Maker, because look at the shit you'll do to
keep this fucking idiot king in you know. He says, Tom,
there's no honor anymore.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
And there's I think all a very strong class consciousness
that comes to the to the four in the show,
and it's kind of more submerged in the books because
everybody's like Chris and Cole, you're like a night. You're
Dornish night from nowhere, Like you're not a real guy,
you're not a you're barely a member of the nobility,
(15:21):
and here you are chopping the heads off of like
loyal servants of the queen, like you're somebody, shut the
fuck up. Cole's next target, very surprising to everyone, most
notably GWayne High Tower is not gonna be Hairn Hall,
where Damon sits with no army. It's gonna be Rook's Rest,
which is a smaller coastal castle owned by another member
(15:45):
of Vernieres's council, Lord Stone.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Yeah, and it's a very like it's a very you
can tell this is just like an older guy. He's
just chilling in his little castle. Like there's not really
much of a reason to take it Stratia over.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Harron Hall, except that it's close to Dragonstone across the water.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Well Aimond has Aimon knows why they should take it,
but it's unclear to kind of everyone else.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
So King Agan is raging over the Red Keep at
the slow movements of the army. He's talking with his
small Council's like the armies, like, what are we doing?
We're taking these smaller castles. We're going the opposite direction
from Aaron Hall. Why are we doing that. Laris is like,
don't worry about it. I'm sure christ and Cole knows
what he's doing. Meanwhile, Heron Hall, I've lived there.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
He's like, he's going crazy.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
I burned my dad and my brother there.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Yeah, He's like, I know it well. He's like, this
is actually a trap for Damon. Yeah, like he's gonna
be stuck in that, he's gonna get dripped on, like
and also it's probably gonna be driving him crazy, Like
just to burn it out, that might drive him crazy.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
I took all the gold out. There's nothing there. It's
a fucking huge dump. He can't do anything from there.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Look, I am not gonna lie. I'm a Laris hater.
I remember when Laris Tarantino for fetish business on Alison.
But I will say he's looking sharp, he's being logical,
he's rising up the ranks. He's acting less creepy. He's
kind of seeming more like an actual ally to Alison.
(17:18):
He's he's just he's doing well. I remember seeing him.
It was looking at him in his little purple you know,
get up, and I thought, he's looking good. It's been
a good season for him. I'm well done to that man.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
In this episode wearing a doublet. It's very reminiscent of
like low level mobs from the aaa AT, like elden
Ring mobs. Anyway, he points out Damon as no army.
Heron Hall's are dump, there's no money there. Meanwhile, Christian
Cole is on the move, very active, knocking off black
(17:50):
castles one after another. Amen is like that guy's right,
haroon hawkm wait, and then he flexes on his brother
by openly admitting that, yeah, me and Cole have been
planning this whole thing without you.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Yeah, and we know that if we get Rooks rest
then basically Dragonstone's caught off by Land, Like actually, there's
this whole plan, and Eggan's like, no, I want to
take Karen Hale, and everyone's just like shut up, man, like,
just shut up.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Even then dresses Eggon down in high Vala in a
humiliating fashion, pointing out that you know, Aimond and Cole
have been actively like doing actual war things while the
king has been like getting drunk carousing with his homies
that he is elevated to King's Guard and like picking
(18:39):
out nicknames for himself like egg On the magnanimous. Yeah,
egg this is such a great character, mom, because he
tries to answer in high Valarian and it's like just gibberish.
Quite clearly did not study it, Like Aimond is that
kid who's just been studying the whole time, but never
while you were out.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Carousing with your friends. I was studying the Blade aka
high Valarian. Also, I just want to say, I actually
couldn't believe I'm gonna have to go back and watch
it again. But like the first couple of times I
watched this, I was just like the way that they
use Eggon's new you know kings Guard in inverted commas,
who are just his friends as like background kind of
(19:19):
narrative hints are so good because they're always bumping into
each other, but they can't stand still.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
They're like scratching arm.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Next when they when they stand to leave the room
and follow egg On their they always like knock into
each other. It's this really small bit of visual storytelling
that works so well and you suddenly realize, oh wow,
when I've seen even Kristin Cole, when I see that
man standing behind you, he's standing straight, he's got the back,
he knows what's going on. He's he looks at least
(19:50):
vaguely alert. And these really are just Eggon's friends. And
I just thought it was such a smart little bit
to pepper through. And you're really thinking like, oh, Eggon,
you're done for like you are, You're it's not going
well for you.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
So Egun, humiliated, has essentially no choice in front of
his gathered small counsel, but to accede to Colin Aman's plan.
Alison meets with Laris. Laris comes to her chambers. He's like, hey,
didn't see you in the small council meeting. What's going on.
She's like, yeah, I'm not feeling ate.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Too much pie like it was.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Yeah, And he looks good at the empty flagon of
plant and he says, ah.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Alison, why didn't you hide that? Like you gotta be
like you're feeling too casual, too comfortable, like in this
game of Thrones that you are playing, like that's gonna
take you down. You can't be you can't be ever
letting that happen also something I loved here another great
moment that I think shows that you have women working
on this show who are being really thoughtful. Alison when
(20:53):
when he comes in, Alison is using like hot rocks
wrapped in a bed sheet to deal with stomach cramps,
like it's like a water ball. Yeah, it's so good.
I was like, that is so good. And obviously Laris
is smart enough to know that that too, is and doing.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
It herself because she can't trust her handmaidens to not
which is really sad gossiping. Yeah, yeah, Laris notices the
books around It's like, wow, when did you become interested in?
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:27):
When did you new? And Alison just like, well, you know,
Visaras was so such a student of history, listening to
the voices of the past, and I'm just doing, you know,
the same to try and find some guidance. And Laris
then asks a pretty cutting question, which is do you
think it was these voices from the past that caused
(21:48):
the king to change his mind to eggon in these
final moments? And Alison is like, how do you know
what I've been seeing? She gives this look this yeah, yes,
that's a little too close to the bone for me, I.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Was gonna say, I wonder when he said that he
was it was like he had his little eyes were
like raised looking at her, and I'm like, okay, is
that Laris hinting that he overheard what Vi Sarah's really said,
or that he kind of has some understanding that there's
there was a mix up. It felt very it was
(22:21):
either a guest or I really waited.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
My sense is that Listen Laris is an outsider because
of his foot, his deformity. He's never he's always been
on the outside of things, and he's used that as
camouflaged an ability to get close to people and observe
them because people don't view him as a threat. And
I think he is a keen observer, and I think
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he is observed in Alison a sudden doubt in the
way things are going. And I think he is like,
why this doubt all of a sudden? What's what do you?
Why this certain? And he asks cuttingly, I think if
Allison doubts the king the former king's intentions, And Alison
(23:13):
wisely says, and I think this is what she says
is very true, so extremely true. Is that Raniera and
Eggon's forces are going to kill each other. When they're
done killing each other, who's ever left alive will sit
on the.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Throne and they're gonna believe what they want to believe.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
They're going to believe what they want to believe, and
none of this will fucking matter, and having red fire
and blood, that's right.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Yeah, And also his intentions will not matter because also
history is written by the winner. Yeah, you know, and
we're going to see that as the show goes on.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
We go back to Heron Hall, where it can be
very fucking weird, folks.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Damon horror movie horror shit is good. The cinematography is amazing.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
So Damon is just wandering on the halls following an
apparition of himself wearing an eye patch like aimoned one eye.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Very foreshadowing.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
I think, yeah, he's got He takes his sword out.
He's following this ghostly figure and he finds himself in
the kitchens where Alice Rivers is worthing was our first
real meeting with.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Yeah, we a glimpse of her last time, but you
really get a sense of her this time.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
So there is no master here at Heron Hall. The
mester Alice says, fled because he just couldn't get the
hang of.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
This place, couldn't get settled.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
She's there mixing potions or something, and she says, you
know that trouble sleeping.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
I had. It can be hard to sleep in this
one test castle. How are you doing?
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Not a problem I have, but but but a problem
that many. She's like, I'm chilling, and she mentions that, well,
this place is cursed, and it was cursed from way
before egg On the conqueror burned hair in the Black.
Here it was cursed because Heron la Black, who was
a iron born raider who decided to put down roots
in the riverlands after conquering much of it, cut down
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a massive grove of weird woods to clear the way
for his vast castle. And those wear woods, of course,
are are ancient.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
There, and some of them were hot trees, the magic
souls of the people who died.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
We've seen the kind of magic that one can interact
with from Game of Thrones and brands uh, you know,
adventures into the past through these trees. So those were
cut down without any care to what that meant, and
since then the place has been cursed. In fact, Damon,
you're sleeping on a bed made of werewood, So you
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tell me what that's about. And then she has gone, yeah,
how's it going? And then she says, as a joke,
what I'm not a I'm not a person, I'm a
barn owl in human form, which felt like a joke,
but also like not a joke.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
No, definitely not a joke.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
We know that words exist in this world of people
who have the ability to commune with animals in magical ways.
So what does this mean? She realizes that. She immediately
says some very touches like the hot stove of Damon's
emotions and says.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Sounds like he's She's been in his mind, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
She seems to know a lot about what drives damoned
right now. Then she gives him some kind of potion
so that she can sleep. This will help you sleep.
You'll need your rest, You'll need your energy in order
to deal with what the things that you're going to
find here.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
And also because she can sense, she's like, look, if
you're trying to take a throne and make a claim yourself,
you're going to need some energy for that. And Damon's like, ah,
how does she know this? Also, I just want to say, damon,
when a woman who's obviously a witch, I just want
to say that I love a witch. Right, this woman's
obviously a witch. You call her a witch. Look, she's
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that she's making a potion that looks like it's probably
made of organs of some She's licking her bloody fingers.
When she then gives you the potion and says this
will help you sleep, I would just say, don't drink it.
And look, I I'm someone who's dealt with a lot
of insomnia in my life. I understand the desperation of
needing a good night's sleep, but I would just say,
probably not a good idea.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Yeah, let me just so. The river Lands is an
ancient and mysterious place. They're right like within sight of
the walls of Heron Hall. Very close by is the
gods I Lake. The Gods I Lake has a island
on the middle that covered in were woods, the Island
of Faces. They call it the Faces because the face
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is carved in the heart trees, where it is rumored
that the children of the forest still reside. And all
of which is to say is this is a magical
place with lots of access to the hallucinogenic weir woods,
and I do wonder if what Alice is doing here
is not taking weirwood sap or we're with something pounding,
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pounding it into different potions and feeding it to Damon
in his food, in his drink. However, you know, we've
seen how that affected brand and Game of Thrones, and
I do wonder if that's not what she's doing to
Damon for reasons unknown, I don't know why.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Yeah, but I agree because actually the thing about Bran
is when he was hallucinating, you know, he was young,
he was a child. He hadn't really committed.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
It looked at it like Ga Thrones. It looked very bloody,
sappy blood.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
But for him, he could he was getting to go
on these kind of like mind expanding journeys, right, But
we know that herllucinogens they kind of open doors to
parts of yourself you might be hiding or not want
to deal with. And Damon is definitely going through some
kind of like ego death, like young with dealing with
the horrors of what he did to Raniera. I mean,
(28:51):
in the opening scene when Raniera says you created me,
I was like my mind was blown. I was like
Oh my god, it's so true and like so many
many horrible ways.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Also, Brand had a Shirpa in the One Eyed Raven
who was guiding these visions and had been connected to
the Weirward network for for over a century. By the
point that we meet him, Damon is just tripping.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
With that just styl an ego death. It's it's going
badly for him.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
So Damon drinks this potion and next thing he knows,
it's an unknown amount of time later, it's daytime. It's
like he is just immediately he's dressed. He is sitting
at the table at the.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Meaning and finishing his sip.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Almost He's like what. And he is sitting there with
Sir Williem Blackwood, who he doesn't remember being introduced to.
And Sir Blackwood is of course very very eager to
feel an army, especially if it's gonna be sent against
the Brackens and to raise the banner of the One
True Queen Rner Targarian.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Who, by the way, he remembers, he was once buying
for Hand's spirit. And I feel like over at storms
End when he brought that up, I did kind of
feel like he's looking at Damon and he's thinking like
you are mats, like maybe if I maybe, if I
do this, there's gonna be space for a new king,
because like you are not looking well.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
And now recall at that meeting in the Storm's Land
in storms End, when Sir Willem was part of you know,
the matchmaking sessions for Riverira, he got into a duel
with a Bracken and actually ended up killing him. So
this shit has been going on a long time. And
certainly uh Will and Blackwood uh can't wait to march
(30:40):
against the Brackens. At the Green Council back at the
Red Keep, we learned that uh, you know, refueling the
dragons is expensive. They eat a lot of sheep and
lamb and whatever, and it's really stressing the resources of
the Crowlens. Eggon is like, I don't give a shit
a bowing infrastructure week, okay, which is funny.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
You can tell he's like sick of it because there
was that little period of time near the beginning of
his reign right where he actually seemed to like understand
that this small folk were important and they needed to
be involved, and there was kind of we still knew
he was like a creepy rapist who doesn't have any
like real good ideas. But there was a moment where
I was like, oh, maybe he kind of does for
(31:25):
some reason, he's understanding this, but now he's just like, no,
I'm bored. Also, can I just say something, Yeah, why
do the dragon riding families? Why do the Targarians not
have like a farming infrastructure? I feel like you could
just have there should just be farms that solely are
made to feed. I kind of I get it, some
kind of like arrogance of like, well, the small folk,
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it's this feudal mindset. They can deliver it, but they
should realize, like, especially when you've got vaguar hanging around,
do you need like a lot of sheep like a
normal which, by the way, we really get to see
how big Vega's back and Vega is and I it's
so good.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
So Eggon storms off who he goes to his mummy
to complain. He finds Allison in his room looking for
King Vassarius's books. King Eggon pours himself a big glass
of wine, starts.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
To drink, and he's already drunk.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
He's already drink. If you're telling Alison, like my counsel
will listen to me call an Amon. They're doing stuff
by my back. And Alison, who I think it's fair
to say dislikes her sons.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
She hates because she knows she she recalls all the
women she had to pay off. Yeah, the egg m rape.
Then obviously she is someone who was, you know, essentially
sold to be a child bride to a king, so
she has some empathy for those women. She doesn't like him,
And in this sequence as well, I think she is
(32:54):
losing the last of her focks to give. This is
this is Sabrina Carpenter, Like my giver focks are on vacation.
She is, she's been. She usually like has a certain
distance I feel like and maybe a disassociation that allows
her to continue her role as dowager queen. But here
she's like, she's like, you're an under position. You are
(33:19):
here are because we put you here, and we sacrifice
so much to get you here, and you just need
to shut your fucking mouth, do nothing. Just shut up.
She's like, that's what we put you here to do nothing?
Dad was you're ten times the king that you're just missings.
I have to say in this episode she's missing very
interesting the kind of like Golden Sepia glow that Visara's
(33:41):
is recalled in through Allison and she basically says, egg on,
shut up in trible like shut up. We don't want
to let the experts do their thing, and just shut
the fuck up. The Green Army has gathered outside of
the walls of Expressed and they begin laying siege to
the middle of the daytime and calls like, we go forwards.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Get a surprise, It's gonna be great. We go forward
as part of the plant. Gawayne is like whoa, whoa
the dragons like they can see us and ship like,
shouldn't we wait till darkness? Like I'm all for the attack?
Wells wait.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
I just want to say as well. We get the
best moment here because this is one of my probably
my favorite lines definitely from House to Dragon and maybe
from Game of Thrones, and we get this great moment
with Sir Gawayne, who I feel like so far we
haven't really gotten to know him very well.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Wonderful Freddy Fox.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
He's Freddy Fox is so good in this moment because
Sir Christen says to him in his arrogant stupid they'll
faith and his and his like stuck up voice. He goes,
are you scared, and and he goes worse, I'm rational, yeah,
and I'm like, I'm a brain, so.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
I'm thinking about it.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
He's like, I'm actually thinking about and Kristin Cole is
emboldened by how easy it's been for him to turn
these you know, smaller kind of villages and communities, but
he is not thinking about the fact that they are,
that they are small, and they haven't they've been uncontested essentially.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
But this is and this is Cole's plan. Listen, He's
He's knocked off a bunch of castles, black castles on
the way. He has accepted the bent knees of those forces,
namely the Darklands, who we recently saw get their heads
chopped off in Ben the Knee, and he is more
than willing to use those forces as bait, hopefully to
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lure a Black Dragon to the battle where it will
be ambushed by Vagar, who is waiting in the woods
some distance away for the signal.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Okay, so I have to say, before we get into
this final third act, which is so fantastic, I need
to talk about this line that was earlier when he
was trying to turn some of the kind of smaller
folk and the knights to reneer it to Allison's cause
he called Vernera the horror of dragon Star.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
That's a little strong.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
I'm like, this man is trying to get in the
history books. He's trying to come up with nicknames. He's
trying to come up with insults that will be written
down for his ex that was like, by the way,
like ten years ago at this point, or something like,
my friend, I hate you so much and I'm so
happy that your downfall is clearly imminent because you are
(36:15):
just the worst.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
I need a I definitely need a general who is
just a little bit more business like than Kristen call.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
A little bit less emotional. You know, it's women being emotional.
But both Ranera and Allison have a very closed off,
like quite sensible demeanor. Kristen calls out here like writing
distracts about Riniera while he's chopping man's heads.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
You're a pure mad dog.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
He's just he's an imbecile. Also, I want to say,
you know, it's hard to kind of capture it in
the recap, but the reveal of what calls Plan truly
is it made me gasp. The way they tell the
story on the screen where you see this kind of
what looks like a failing siege in the daytime, but
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as soon as Renee appears on Relase, you know that
something else is happening, because Cole says, this is the plan. Yeah,
and we see Amond kind of rise up on or
we see Aimond on Vagar in some kind of Jurassic
Park esque like you can't tell the dinosaur from the woods,
and it's so scary and it's really good, and I
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was like, oh, I fucking hate Kristin Cole, but this
is actually such a good plan. He didn't execute it well,
but he did.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Come on, we'll get to that because there was things
beyond his control. So on Dragon saw Christian Cole apologists
coming through the news of the fall of Duskindale shakes
the Black Council that is the seed of House Darkland.
Sir Stephan Darkland is one of Rniera's sworn swords. He
is the Knight that accompanied her into kings Landing for
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the secret meeting. So this is a big deal and
one that's very personally felt. They learned that Ranier was
over talking to Alison to hopefully sue for peace. That
option is now gone. Now it's time for war. Jace
is like, okay, I'm done serving, looks send a dragon.
Raniera says, good idea, it's got to be me, like
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I've exhausted every effort to forge a peaceful solution. She hasn't,
but she thinks that yes, and she's like, I have
to go, and everybody's like, no, you're the queen, you
can't go, like all our hopes are pinned on you.
Jays's like, I'll go. I'm gonna go, and everybody's like,
you're too young and inexperienced. What are you talking about?
And then Renee finally is like, but it has to
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be met. I know how to fight, I'm experienced. Mainly,
this is the biggest dragon that we have currently available
to us. I will meet Cole. Everybody's fall silent because
they know this is absolutely the move. That's what we
have to do. Yea and Raniera. You could tell that.
Raniera is like fuck, like that's my bestie. Yeah, I
might lose my bestie right now.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
I will say another You know we love Raniera. She
has the rightful queen. But another significant kind of mistake
she made. She should have made Renise her hand, so
Renie could have stood in in those meetings before she
went away.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Having no hand right now is a mess.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
It's a mess. Also, I do want to just say
I do want to kind of apologize a little bit
to Raniera because last week we were kind of dragging
on her for not having a plan when she went
to see Alison, and I do still think that stands.
But on rewatching that before I watched this episode, I
do think she is truly like dumb struck by how
stupid Allison is in that moment, Like whatever plan she
might have had, I think she is like, what are
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you talking about? Like you you? I think she was
just shocked. So you know what, Raniera, I like you.
I hope that this plan goes well for you and
and I do. But I will also say I do
think when Cole and Amen made this plan, I do
think they believe that Raniera would be the one to go.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
I think they thought. I think they were hoping. I
think they were really I think they were hoping it would.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
She's She's very We've seen her be very, very impulsive.
We've seen her ignore the smartest plan to go for
the most impactful plan. And for the most part for
her it has worked. But I think that in this moment,
the Reneise plan is is the best plan. And I
love Renise, She's brave. I also think Reniee is feeling
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a slightly freed of the shackles that her great happy
marriage have given her because she's learned about this betrayal
from Carless, So I think she is a little bit
more open to going to battle. But Jason, I just
wanted to ask you this as well, because Reniera kind
of you know, she talks about how she wanted to
settle for peace, she wanted to try her best, because
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really sending a dragon to war, this is the moment
where there's like no going back right now. She said, like,
this is huge.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
You're gonna lose one side or the other is gonna
lose an important piece and an important person. So back
in the red keep eggon now fully shit faced is like,
you know what, fuck it, I'm going I'm gonna.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
Go, oh my go. And he doesn't have a real
so his idiot friends just get him and they send
him out on this little baby.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Back on Dragonstone. Raniera understanding now that we're moving into
a different phase of the war one that might take
her life. Tells Jace about the Song of Ice and Fire.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
This gave me goosebumps. Way, Emma Darsie read it. As
we see the dragons approaching Rook's Rest, Oh, it's just
so good.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
So Raniera and me Lys arrive outside of Brooks Rest
and they immediately strike at Cole's army. Cole then sends
the signal for Vagar, but instead it's egg On, a
drunken Eggon and Sunfire who fly overhead towards the battle.
They fly right over aimin Ty.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
Sunfire is so tiny it's it's not big enough.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
Aimond is like fuck as he watches his idiot brother,
he says, calls him an idiot, and then he's like,
you know what, let me see Let's see how you
Let's see how this plays on, So this will be interesting.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Could be interesting.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
When Cole sees that it's the King's dragon, you know,
Sir Gawayne is like, wait, who's dragon sent? This is
your plan?
Speaker 2 (42:10):
He's like, is this was your plant? And you send
out this idiot king?
Speaker 1 (42:13):
And then Cole is like, wait, oh shit, that's the
king and GWayne is like, you're a fucking moron, Cole
is like, okay, we have to change. Okay, we gotta
go for now. We have to change the plan completely,
and he's like, okay. King's yeah, hey man, this is it.
By the way, you're protected by divine proves.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
Nothing bad will happen to me.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
You are protected by the gods of the seventh wants a.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
Hand to protect the king and the king affair.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
And it's gonna be great. Go forward, it's gonna be great.
And he just is like, he sends them forward, and
he hope. He's hoping now that Amon is gonna show
up whenever Renie and Maylee's absolutely fuck Sunfire and ha
gone up. They fucked him up bad. He is a mass.
He's Sunfire is getting his her turn open. And then
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finally aimoned is rises and is flying towards the battle,
and Eggon looks and is like, oh, thank god, my
brother's here, save my ass. It's gonna be great. But
then that big old mouth of Vegars opens with the flames.
You can see the flame he generating down in the
throat and boom hits it Aimed clearly not caring like
(43:29):
who is getting flamed here, and just burns up the
tangled dragons, his brother Eggon the king, and also Malise
and Rainyes, and next thing you know, Eggon and Sunfire
go tumbling to the earth where they crash into the
woods and leave a huge, flaming, fucking crater. And now
(43:50):
you're thinking, certainly, I'm thinking King's down, perhaps dead. Get
out of there, because also as.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Well, like this is gonna be seen as obviously huge
declaration of war because you're gonna get blamed, but also
great success for Raniera. So I'm saying, just get out
of that now, because if if Egon's debt, you bloody
their nose, and you can say, well, there's no king now,
so surely Vaniera is the rightful app.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
You bloody their nose now. Instead, Maylye straps in and
orders Mayle's to attack. Now. I think what's going through
her mind is, well, they'll just name Aimond, probably right.
And secondarily, I did the right thing at the at
the dragon Pit last season, the right thing, the right
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thing morally and legally, because it was not my place
to just kill the entire Green faction.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
That said, I do think she's making it up.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
If I don't finish the job now, people are gonna
be like what the fuck is up with you? So
I need to finish. I need to make sure the
job is finished, and she turns back.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
She has been someone who throughout this has been worried
about the cost of war, the amount of bodies, the bloodshed,
and I think she does feel a guilt for not
doing that in the dragon pit, even though in the
moment she hoped there was a root for peace, but
now I think she understands there isn't, at least not
according to Raniera. So I think that she feels like
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this is a chance for her to stop that bloodshed.
I also feel like there is a resignation. Eve Best
does such a fantastic job here where you know, Renise
is never gonna get their throne that she should have had.
Renise knows her husband has betrayed her and not kept
it from her, you know, has let her see that.
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She knows that now it's unlikely that their family will
have a female heir, which she hoped for, and she
can see that this war is coming. So I do
feel like in that moment where she straps into the
saddle and turns around, she's aware of the cost of
this decision, but she feels like it's the right thing
to do. So this is probably when she feels the
most powerful and like she has her most agency, is
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when she's in the sky with Malise, so she can
make a historical moment here like for the books. She
can if she can achieve this. And also, you know,
I think there's also a little bit of Vigar was
stolen from her family. You know, we know who Aimon
stole Vegar. So I think there are so many layers
to this, and you see all of them in her face.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
I think there's also an aspect of she's a targarian
princess in a part of a family that has a
rich martial tradition. The women have been dragon writers and
have taken part in the war. And this is how
you die, if you're gonna die, is how you die
a fire. It's a warrior's death, right, It's a warrior
die with your dragon. She turns back and actually fucking
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kicks Vigars. My god, down's Vigar. And it shows you
that Renie is experienced and smart and wiley. And then
while Vigar is huge journing, he's just playing trying his
luck because his dragon's big. You know, she's strategic. She
goes inverted, uses gravity to pull Vagar down, and down's Vigar,
(47:09):
who crashes into Vega's guts like huge wound causes Vigar
to crash into the ground, sending the entire army into chaos.
Vigar is like stepping on guys. It's a fucking miss.
Cole is in concussion protocol, doesn't know where he is.
Belle is majorly wrong. And now Rene's goes finally iphen.
Speaker 2 (47:29):
Someone was gonna chop Cole's head off, like I was, like,
just chop it off.
Speaker 1 (47:33):
Renie's goes heading for the sea and now she really
should go now like she got two strikes.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
Now, babe, go you smashed it, you killed it. You're
gonna be please go, You're gonna be the hand, You're
gonna be celebrated. You might end up being Vaniera's kings. God,
she needs one, like come on.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
But again, I think she's thinking the army is still outside,
looks right, like it's not. The siege is not over.
I'm not sure Vegar is finished. Again, I have that
there is that criticism that I should have done more
at the dragon pit, and so let me just go
and maybe take a look and see what the status
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of the king is in Vegar and see if the
job is done okay?
Speaker 2 (48:18):
And also do you think there is because I have
to say, I do think how the dragon is doing
a really good job kind of putting paid to the
idea that Targarian madness is this all consuming thing that's
always happening, and they all die and they're all crazy
and they're all doing crazy stuff. But do you think
there is possibly like that little fire of Targarian dragon blood,
(48:39):
of like wanting to burn things. Do you think there's
a little bit of that? Because this really did feel
like the logical choice was leave. Now you've actually scored
two fantastic wins. I think no.
Speaker 1 (48:51):
I think she wanted to just see. I think she
wanted to I think she wanted to be able to
go back and report to the queen. Here is Here
is where we are. The king is either dead or not,
Vegar is either seriously injured or not, and the siege
is over. I think if she, I think she's thinking,
(49:12):
if I fly back now and the siege is still
ongoing and Vegar is still up, they're gonna say, what
the fuck did you do? Why are you here? The
castle has been taken, the army is still like active
and the king is not dead, like yeah, like you
need to come back with a win or don't come back,
(49:32):
And I think she's she's sensitive to that comment. Well, unfortunately,
Melesse and Rainie get ambushed by Vagar on the turnaround,
and this time it's Vegar gets to drop on them,
crushes Meyles's neck.
Speaker 2 (49:48):
Yeah, almost like bites off its head.
Speaker 1 (49:51):
There's this terrible moment where Meyle's and Rainy's know it's
over and they're just locking and and it's it's a
bookend of that moment where when ray Niece is getting
ready to leave, she like is petting the side of
mainly the battle and there's a smile like the way
(50:13):
you'd smile at a horse, you know, and it's like
it's and it's tremendously sad. They go crashing into the
walls of Rook's rest and it's clear that that they're dead.
It's it's done. Cole struggles to his feet his bell rung,
wanders into the woods to find out your grace, you
know what he is the job and what he finds
(50:39):
is Sunfire looking real bad, probably about to die or
near death, guts ripped out, still twitching but looking real,
real bad, and we don't see the king, but what
we see is aim And standing over the king with
his sword out. And when aim And clocks Coal there,
(51:02):
he's like okay, and he puts his sword away and
perhaps thinking my brother looks fucked up enough, like yeah,
let time take its toll and that will finish the job.
Whatever the case. If the king is alive after this,
he's gonna be real fucked up. And that is the
end of the episode. And it is a big one,
a huge episode.
Speaker 2 (51:22):
Huge episode. I also loved the I think in that moment,
I think Aimond is as much as he is like
a deceitful, like cunning person, you know, he's also incredibly clever.
And I really felt in that moment that he was
like wait. He takes a long time to put his
sword back, and I think he's weighing up. He's looking
at Coal and he's thinking, can I trust trust you?
Speaker 1 (51:42):
Can I trust I do this?
Speaker 2 (51:43):
Are you going to use it against me in the future,
Like yeah, we're bros. We planned this plan. It didn't
go great, but it kind of went to plan in
a way. But I don't know if I can trust
you to just like, let me see you, let you
see me kill the king.
Speaker 1 (51:57):
Also in a change from the books, in a change
that I think actually fits with the books as retrospective
war propaganda. Right, they don't ever mention. First of the
books frame Sunfire and Eggon going into war as like
a twin plan, like Aimoned and Eggon came up with
(52:20):
this plant together. It was the brothers together, working together
as a team. Yeah, And it is not framed as
the drunken king staggered into battle, and there is no
mention of Aimon. I mean, I think it's pretty unambiguous, right,
He's hoping that he's thinking, okay, well, if Egon gets
his clock cleaned here, I'm king perfect, like, let's let
(52:42):
this happen, and in fact takes an active role in
trying to get it to happen by blasting his brother
and may Leason Rainyes together and then is absolutely caught
in the act of being about to finish off the king,
like he was gonna believe he was going to do it.
Speaker 2 (53:01):
Oh, he was going to do it. It would have just
taken like a stab to the hall, something he wouldn't
have had to do anything too obvious.
Speaker 1 (53:06):
And I think that frames aimed in a much different
light than the books do, so that is very interesting
to me. It shows a different and a much more
cunning side to Age.
Speaker 2 (53:18):
So before we kind of turned the mics on, you
were talking about this the way that the show kind
of reframes the books as almost like propaganda. So could
you talk a little bit about that, because I do
think that after this episode we are in that space
of like you were saying, like it's like misogynist propaganda, and.
Speaker 1 (53:35):
Yeah, I think that. I think Fire and Blood is
essentially misogynist propaganda that downplays the roles of Allison and Reniera.
Frames Reniera's decisions certainly later decisions, mid war decisions, maybe
not the decisions that are happening right now, but like
happened further on into the war as like the acts
(53:55):
of a despotic, emotional, crazed woman, and and mainly frame
the moves of Christen Cole and Aimond and Damon as
like the great warriors of the Age. You know, it's
it is war propaganda, absolutely war propaganda. And one that
(54:18):
and one that written by men, like written by several men,
some of whom were not even there at the time.
So this is the stuff that's coming to the four
in the show. Is actually super interesting in the way
that it adds a depth of realism to the story.
Can't wait to see what happens next, can't wait to
(54:39):
see what the status of the king is, how people
are going to react to end if Cole I mean
this is Cole has now witnessed something that is very
dangerous and I and he is on treacherous ground now because.
Speaker 2 (54:55):
Especially because Amond was willing to kill his brother, So
I don't think he's going to kill it, care about
killing it bro he has that's just his friend.
Speaker 1 (55:02):
He has to be very careful now because the king
is he alive dead I don't know, but could Aimond
come to power, yes, very possiblely, and Cole has information
that would be very dead Like he cannot ever mention
this thing. He's gonna have to say, I don't know anything.
(55:23):
So it's very interesting going forward. Can't wait to see
what happens when next we see an episode.
Speaker 2 (55:28):
Also, I'm really intrigued because, like Cole's plan, even though
it did take a dragon and Allison knows this was
col and Amen's doing. The King is like grilled cheese now,
you know, like whatever happens to him, he's not doing well.
Speaker 1 (55:41):
So like King's what was the cost of.
Speaker 2 (55:43):
The True Air int Commas like the Usurper? But like
was was him not being able to rule like worth,
you know, taking out Malise and Renise. I would probably
actually say, like yes, because he was just a pawn,
but I don't know if it will look that way
to the High Tower in the Green faction, I think
Eggon was an important pawn. So I'm also interested to
(56:04):
maybe see Kristen Cole finally kind of getting some come
upance for his you know, reckless behavior. So I can't
wait for the next episode.
Speaker 1 (56:13):
We'll be right back up in a quick brick. Let's
go to the scorecard. Who's winning right now? After the
Battle of Rook's Rest, I have a take, Okay, after
(56:36):
this battle, on Fire is down there. The Greens had
three dragons that could find to Sarrion Darren, the Darings, who,
by the way over an old time have not seen it. Vagar.
Of course, we just saw an action and Sunfire. So
on Fire is down and out of it, dead or whatever,
but certainly out of it. Vagar is gonna have to
(56:57):
stay around King's Landing because you can't lose.
Speaker 2 (57:00):
That a lot of sheep as well.
Speaker 1 (57:02):
Send them all the black dragons, you know where Vegar
is gonna be. Vagar's gonna be at King's landing. Send
jasend Bayless and Rania, send everybody, Send all of them
and just go burn Green shit like, yeah, send them
all now, you over like. Even if you lose two
or three, they've only got to like And if you
knock out Vegar, it's fucking over it. I think the
(57:26):
Green position has been very strong up until now, but
they lost a lot of men. Vegar is gonna be
super super tired and is wounded. Sunfire is out of it,
the King is roasted. I think if the Blacks are
gonna make a move now is actually a great time
to it would be great. I think the Greens are
less strong than they seem. But we'll see what happens.
Speaker 2 (57:47):
We'll see what happens on.
Speaker 1 (57:49):
The next couple of episodes of X Ray Vision. We're
gonna be diving into House of the Dragon, of course,
and of course continue coverage of the Acolyte and with
some other surprises in there for you. That's it for
this episode. Thanks for listening. Bye x ray Vision is
(58:11):
hosted by Jason Concepcion and Rosie Knight and is a
production of iHeart Podcasts. Our executive producers are Joelle Smith
and Aaron Kaufman. Our supervising producer is a Boo Zafar.
Our producers are Carmen Laurent and Mia Taylor. Our theme
song is by Brian Basquez.
Speaker 2 (58:31):
Special thanks to Soul Rubin and Chris Lord, Kenny Goodman
and Heidi Our discoored moderata
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