March 22, 2025 • 22 mins
It's a movie-heavy news week! Electric State fails to deliver the charge, we ask, should Marvel be worried that the Russo brothers don't seem to have it? Sure, you heard Apple TV+ has cost the company BILLIONS, but Apple has deep pockets, and we say thank you for the excellent content. Warner Bros announced that the latest movie from Paul Thomas Anderson starring Leonardo DiCaprio and the Bride of Frankenstein movie directed by Maggie Gyllenhaal have been delayed. And finally, Disney announced at a shareholder meeting that Coco 2 is coming.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We interrupt this broadcast to bring you news from x
ray Vision. Today's episode, we're talking about streaming news. We're
talking about a lot of movie news, and stay tuned
for news news. Hello, my name is Jay s Keon
(00:29):
Sepsion and I'm mersday Night, and welcome back to x
ray Vision of the podcast where we dive deep into
your favorite shows, movies, comics and pop culture. Coming from
iHeart Podcast, where we'll bring you three episodes a week
every Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday, plus.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
News which you're listening to right now.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
In today's previously on news episode, we are catching up
on the biggest geek news of the week, including the
newest Brusso Brothers movie, Electric State.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
What is going on with them? Why did they love AI?
Have they made a good movie since they left the
MCU stable?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
And we'll also be talking about some interesting delays at
Warner Brothers show us that weird Maggie Jillenhole Bride movie immediately.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
But first, okay, first up, the Electric State. The Electric
State is a three hundred million dollar plus film.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Starting Star Like It's more than three hundred million dollars.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
From three twenties. What they're currently saying but from the
Russo Brothers, who, if you list, had a podcast, you
know as the directors of Captain America, The Winter Soldier,
Captain America, Civil War, Infinity War, the Avengers game game,
(01:56):
and many other Postmarvl flops, including this one with an
insane cast including Chris Pratt, Millie, Bobby Brown, Kahie Kwan,
Jason Alexander, Anthony Mackie, Jenny Slat, Gian Colresposito, Stanley Tucci. YadA, YadA, YadA, YadA, YadA, YadA,
yad what And the question is, go watch this movie
(02:18):
now on Netflix. It's utterly forgettable and really a mess
and bad, although it looks good anyway, Yeah, it's bad.
It costs three hundred twenty million dollars and nobody wants
to watch it, and it's a total bomb. And you
have to wonder if Marvel, who recalled the Russo brothers
(02:39):
off the bench to help them, you know, get to
Doctor Doom and the newest Avengers movies that are in
the waiting, if they're like, uh oh like, Because at
this point it has to be said that the Russo
brothers have, in their post Marvel career set a prop
(03:00):
roximately one point two billion dollars on fire yep, with
a bunch of things that nobody really likes and nobody
has really seen Rosie what happened?
Speaker 3 (03:14):
I think that there is a really interesting conversation to
be had here about what the MCU actually offers two
young directors when they're coming off of a non blockbust.
The situation, which is what happened with the Russos, which
is what happened with you know Taikawaitit, which is what
happened with Ryan Coogler, where they went in and said, hey,
(03:37):
you guys have got talent, Let's bring them in. Obviously,
with the Russo brothers, they went on to make some
of the most successful movies.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Of all time.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
I believe they are up there only with James Cameron
as people who have made two.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Billion dollar movies.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
But once they left that stable, they have not been
delivering hits.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
It's been The Gray Man. Remember that? No, you don't.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
You don't remember that. You don't remember the spy Thriller.
Want to remember where he has a little mustache. You're
not sure what happened with that movie? How about Cherry
the Apple TV Tom Holland starring crime thriller and from
the from the adapted from the novel of the same name.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
That is good. That is a good book.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
It's not going well for them, and I think that
outside of this system, they have been given an incredible
amount of money by streamers who.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Don't make me too much.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Very definitely, I mean, I think that's part of the
thing is, uh, you know, creativity thrives with limits where
you're trying to figure out, like, how do I overcome
this obstacle because I don't have the resources to do it,
and they've been giving all the resources. And not just
the movies you mentioned, there's of course the very very
(05:04):
expensive flop television series Citadel.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
On episode Wow, I'm.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Sorry sorry series started, Siria was like, let me tell
you about Citadel.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Siah was like, yes, please watch Citadel.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
We really need able to watch it. We need Sonny back.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
They've been obviously extremely successful managers and stewards of an IP,
but when they've been when they've gone out on their own,
not so much. And Electric State is only the most
recent and again an utter disaster three hundred twenty million
dollars from a movie nobody cares about. And you have
(05:46):
to also wonder, as I do.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
You know.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
There's been a lot of talk about does the MCU
create stars, and the answer has mostly been no, and
I think that's probably out by the evidence. But here's
another bit of evidence that you know, Chris Pratt.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Is they came out of an ip and what happens.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
And what happened Millie Bobby Brown. I think this is
a pretty big knock against them being stars in the
traditional sense that you launch something off of them, and yeah,
just a disaster.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
I will say Milly Bobby Brown has been essentially only
at Netflix, so I think that in its own way
is you know, good for her, but it is essentially
like a gilded cage. You only get to be in
projects that get brought to Netflix, which, like the Electric State,
not always the highest quality projects. I will say Millie
(06:48):
Bobby Brown was perfectly cast in the Andola Holmes movies
on a fun movie, which actually makes you, oh, maybe
there's a space for her Outside of this. They did
a movie called Damsel Less, so but still kind of fun.
But yeah, I think Chris Pratt, definitely once you take
him out of a Jurassic World or a Guardians of
the Galaxy, what does he have to offer and the answer.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Is not very much. Also, I want to know how
much of.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
The money went on star voices, because this is a
this is a movie that's got a lot of weird
robots in it, and those like I Jason Alexander, You're
gonna put him in a movie like this and just
absolutely waste tim please Woody Harrelson. Also, why is there
like a there's like an evil mister Peanut robot in
(07:35):
this I mean, is he evil?
Speaker 2 (07:36):
I don't know. He just looks evil to me.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
But this movie is absolutely deranged and we should mention
once again a movie that has courted controversy because of
the use of AI for voices.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
So should that's gonna come?
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Three?
Speaker 1 (07:55):
This is one of those where I'm like, you know
what a coust three hundred and twenty million dollars They
needed to They needed to cut costs somewhere, did they not?
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Jason said, They said, they said, please help Possibly we
need to say please help.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Us, Please help us stop spending money on this anyway.
Next up in losing money news, Apple is apparently spending
and well spending. Apple is losing upwards of a billion
dollars on their Apple TV Plus streaming platform, they've been losing.
(08:32):
Uh you know, last year they were able to cut
their losses to about five hundred million. It was about
five billion and losses previously. But that's but that's investment costs.
Like let's not get first of all, let's not care
that a corporation loses money. I personally don't. I don't
give a ship. Apple makes more money every second than
(08:53):
we will possibly can possibly imagine. And that five billion
loss in the earlier years is because they're investing in
IP and making movies and starting production on various projects,
YadA YadA, YadA YadA, building out. Now they've cut that
down to a billion because people are signing up and
(09:15):
severance and all these other things. Uh so all that
is to say, a billion dollars, that's a lot. But
also who fucking cares. Yeah, we don't have free we
don't have healthcare in this country. Just give us severance.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
I'm like.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Also, they just reported a three hundred and ninety one
billion dollar revenue for twenty twenty four, Like they can
afford one billion dollars. Apple TV Plus is essentially the
costco hot dog of.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Apple, like a lost lead.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
They were just saying at making banging TV. People are
watching it, they're getting their data that they want whatever
things that they get that you know, we're signing up
to watch severance and probably saying that Apple, we can
now assume them when they inevitably turn their robot dogs
on us or whatever. You know what, just let us
have it, and you know what, good good for them? Everyone,
(10:08):
Every corporation should be trying to.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Lose a billion dollars a year.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
A billion dollars creative people to make creative stuff so
that people can watch something enjoyable and fun to talk
about while everything else goes to shit. At least give
us that.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
At least give us that along with your one thousand
dollars phones that you're.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Making the money back on. The question is you know
what is this about? You know, we've seen Netflix chase Oscars,
We've seen other corporations chase not just the content game,
but the critical acclaim. Clearly so thirsty for the claim
that comes with it's what's in it for Apple? I
think what's in it for Apple is one Apple has
(10:50):
associated itself Apple. The brand Apple is about we make
great stuff. We don't make a million different things like Sony.
We don't you know, have this open source kind of
thing like Google and Android. What we do is we
make like one, we make like three phones, and we
make like a couple of tablets. But they're really really good.
(11:15):
And so what Apple is doing in the content game
is similarly, we don't make a lot a lot of shows,
but the shows we make are really good. Even if
you're not watching them, they're good. Yeah, and I think
you know, that's the ethos that they're following.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Yeah. Absolutely, And even with like underseen kind.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Of movies that they've done, like the Tetris movie, which
is so brilliant with Taron Egerton, and obviously shows that
we've talked about before like Slow Horses. I think that
you're after All Mankind? Yeah, Silo Yeah, oh and and
those shows like I before Apple tv plus properly existed,
I visited an LA press day for for All Mankind, which.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Obviously I was very excited about, and.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
They had rebuilt the NASA you know communications room where
you kind of hear people go, yeah, here was still
we have a problem, you know, that kind of situation
in full, and it was so beautifully put together and
every single detail was perfect, and I remember thinking, oh,
(12:21):
they're really serious about this, like it felt. I've been
on set visits where they're like, this show is set
in their eighties, and then everyone's like spotting, like, oh,
there's a WWE poster.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
From nineteen ninety two.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
You know. No, this was like you're in NASA in
the fifties and sixties. Like it felt so real and
so vibrant, and they had all these different sets built.
And then, honestly, I've not really been on another set
visit like that till you know, almost, you know, six
seven years later, when I was recently on the Minecraft,
(12:54):
they did a junket where they built all these sets.
So I think, in its own way, Apple has been
ahead of the game and is just committed, like you said,
to making really great TV and really good movies, just
like they make an Apple phone. Way, if you go
on Apple Plus TV, you know, there's only probably like
sixty eight things on there. I've reviewed all the different
(13:15):
streaming services multiple times for IGN, and I'm always shocked
by how little Apple has. But the quality is good,
and also the cost is very low AKA you can
get it free, as we have talked many many times
about on here.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
So yeah, very interesting.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
I do think Severance is going to have a good
Award season Emmy's run this year, and it will be
interesting to see what happens with season three and if we.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Get it in less than three years, because we need
it in less than three years. Ben Stiller, please.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Ben has said quite acerbically that it will not take
three years, which you know, no strikes would, et cetera.
And hopefully that's the case. Well, speaking of corporations losing
a lot of money, we'll be right back after a
word from Responsible.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
And we're back.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Next up, more movie news and lots of delays for
upcoming movies from the beleaguered Warner Brothers corporation. David Zaslav
what's going on Paul Thomas Anderson's latest film. According to
a recent announcement by Warner Brothers, his new movie is
(14:47):
a crime thriller titled One Battle after Another starring Leonardo DiCaprio,
and it's been pushed back from August eighth to September
twenty sixth. And Maggie Chillenhall's much much looked forward to,
certainly on this pod Frankenstein movie The Bride has been
(15:09):
moved from September to March of twenty twenty six, which
might have been done to give space to Gammelo del
Toro's Jacob Loordi Frankenstein Bride Frankenstein movie, which is coming
to Netflix in November. That makes sense. This is a
lot like a deep impact Armageddon type situation.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Exactly, a'm ageddin like, how do we do this?
Speaker 3 (15:33):
I think this is very interesting. I had somehow missed
the PTA's next movie was going to be another Thomas
Pinsion adaptation. This time he did Inherent Biss and this
time I believe this is based on Vineland. But I
really love Paul Thomas Anderson every movie he made, apart
from I did not love Licorice Pizza. I am not
(15:55):
a lickorice pizza support weird weird one.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
What you want to know that? But Phantom Thread is
one of my favorite movies. Didn't know it will be blood.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
There will be blood, fantastic. Didn't know that Leonardo DiCaprio
is going to be in this movie. Trailer looks incomprehensible,
which is exactly why we want from no idea what's
going on? But it looks great and I am very
excited for the bride.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
It looks super weird. Apparently it is a musical.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Apparently it is set in nineteen twenties, like gangster filled
America that it has a Frankenstein covered in tattoos played
by Christian Bale, and the bride has a very unique
design too. I love the kind of classic as we
would call them, universal monsters. Though here, of course, this
is going to be a Warner Brothers situation.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
I it's going to be interesting.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
I think these are less about a delay because the
film isn't ready, and more about jiggling your releases so
that they are put out at the best time possible
obviously as well pushing one battle after another to that
September time puts it sort of in the very early
frame of Oscars, which is always the thing with PTA
(17:10):
and you know now Leo. So yeah, I think I
think it's fine. I'm interested to see. These are two
very weird movies, and Warner Brothers otherwise has like they
have the Minecraft movie coming up, which is going to
be huge. They obviously a Superman, so I think this
is going to be a big year for them.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
With weird, with with their big blockbuster.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Kind of temp pole movies potentially, So it makes sense
to me that they're they're kind of jiggling around the
weirder indie stuff.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
But I'm excited to see it.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
I like both of these creators, and I'll be interested
to see what they do next.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Up, Disney announces that they love sequels. Of course, the
Inside Out too huge hit, so why not do another one?
Speaker 4 (17:53):
Yeah, Coco two, I feel like an almost impossible move.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
No, it really is cooled Coco two and Co two.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Okay, So Coco two is the title which has been
announced that the Disney shareholder, meaning Disney CEO Bob Iger,
has said, you're on another investor called Belieger constantly Belieger
Disney Corporation.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Quote.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
We're leaning a little bit more into sequels and franchises,
given the environment and given what it takes to get
people out of their homes to see a film. Leaning
on franchises that are familiar is actually a smart thing.
And he is, I mean Inside Out two says He's right, Yes,
the live action stuff says not so much. But uh,
I loved Coco, love.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
I love Coco.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
I do think it is pretty much as close to
a perfect movie as you can get in a kind
of Pixar system. I think personally, this is I worry
that the integrity and emotional theft of the first movie
will be slightly damaged by this. But I will say
Inside Out two did a fantastic job of adding more
(19:13):
to the conversation around mental health emotional stability. They managed
to do something that felt inventive and true to the
original and kind of expanded the world. And I have
to say I actually preferred Inside Out two to Inside
Out one. That's probably not gonna happen with Coco, because
I think Coco is.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
A brilliant, brilliant movie.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
I'm interested to see where they can go that won't
kind of take away, and also if they're gonna be
able to keep up the bangas songs, because Coco has
some of the best songs from any Pixar Disney type space.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Up next, sad news. David Stephen Cohen, the writer of
the Courage the Cowardly Dog series, has passed away at
the very young age of fifty eight. Got to start
on alf TV, but was most well known as the
head writer for Courage the Cowardly Dog. Passed away due
(20:10):
to cancer. According to an announcement by his friends, Courage
the Cowardly Dog a great series because it had in
every episode. The message was even if you're scared, you
can do it.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Scared.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Whatever it is, it's a really big deal for kids.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
And also, again, sorry I keep talking about Minecraft just
weirdly on my mind.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
I have seen the movie. I thought it was pretty fun.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
But one of the things I thought was best about
it that made me think about Courage the Cowardly Dog
is it has some really scary moments. And I think
that as kids, we use fictional shows and movies to
essentially learn our own boundaries about what we are scared
of and aren't scared of.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
And I think that a lot.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Of us, For a lot of us, Courage the Cowardly
Dog was part of a kind of trin of those programs,
along with Are You Afraid of the Dark and Goosebumps.
So yeah, really sad Loss, such a brilliant creative mind,
and yeah, great time to revisit a really brilliant show.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
Ooo.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Whoo that's my impression of Courage being scared.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Very good.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
On next week's episode of X ray Vision, we're diving
into this month's book club selection, The Merchant and the
Alchemist Gate from Ted Chang's collection of short stories Exhalation
we're gonna be talking about the Severn's two finale, Wow, big, big,
big goodness, and we're gonna be keeping up, of course
with Darede Were Born Again. That's it for news. Thanks
for listening.
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We interrupt this broadcast to bring you news from x
ray Vision. Today's episode, we're talking about streaming news. We're
talking about a lot of movie news, and stay tuned
for news news. Hello, my name is Jay s Keon
(00:29):
Sepsion and I'm mersday Night, and welcome back to x
ray Vision of the podcast where we dive deep into
your favorite shows, movies, comics and pop culture. Coming from
iHeart Podcast, where we'll bring you three episodes a week
every Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday, plus.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
News which you're listening to right now.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
In today's previously on news episode, we are catching up
on the biggest geek news of the week, including the
newest Brusso Brothers movie, Electric State.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
What is going on with them? Why did they love AI?
Have they made a good movie since they left the
MCU stable?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
And we'll also be talking about some interesting delays at
Warner Brothers show us that weird Maggie Jillenhole Bride movie immediately.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
But first, okay, first up, the Electric State. The Electric
State is a three hundred million dollar plus film.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Starting Star Like It's more than three hundred million dollars.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
From three twenties. What they're currently saying but from the
Russo Brothers, who, if you list, had a podcast, you
know as the directors of Captain America, The Winter Soldier,
Captain America, Civil War, Infinity War, the Avengers game game,
(01:56):
and many other Postmarvl flops, including this one with an
insane cast including Chris Pratt, Millie, Bobby Brown, Kahie Kwan,
Jason Alexander, Anthony Mackie, Jenny Slat, Gian Colresposito, Stanley Tucci. YadA, YadA, YadA, YadA, YadA, YadA,
yad what And the question is, go watch this movie
(02:18):
now on Netflix. It's utterly forgettable and really a mess
and bad, although it looks good anyway, Yeah, it's bad.
It costs three hundred twenty million dollars and nobody wants
to watch it, and it's a total bomb. And you
have to wonder if Marvel, who recalled the Russo brothers
(02:39):
off the bench to help them, you know, get to
Doctor Doom and the newest Avengers movies that are in
the waiting, if they're like, uh oh like, Because at
this point it has to be said that the Russo
brothers have, in their post Marvel career set a prop
(03:00):
roximately one point two billion dollars on fire yep, with
a bunch of things that nobody really likes and nobody
has really seen Rosie what happened?
Speaker 3 (03:14):
I think that there is a really interesting conversation to
be had here about what the MCU actually offers two
young directors when they're coming off of a non blockbust.
The situation, which is what happened with the Russos, which
is what happened with you know Taikawaitit, which is what
happened with Ryan Coogler, where they went in and said, hey,
(03:37):
you guys have got talent, Let's bring them in. Obviously,
with the Russo brothers, they went on to make some
of the most successful movies.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Of all time.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
I believe they are up there only with James Cameron
as people who have made two.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Billion dollar movies.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
But once they left that stable, they have not been
delivering hits.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
It's been The Gray Man. Remember that? No, you don't.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
You don't remember that. You don't remember the spy Thriller.
Want to remember where he has a little mustache. You're
not sure what happened with that movie? How about Cherry
the Apple TV Tom Holland starring crime thriller and from
the from the adapted from the novel of the same name.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
That is good. That is a good book.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
It's not going well for them, and I think that
outside of this system, they have been given an incredible
amount of money by streamers who.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Don't make me too much.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Very definitely, I mean, I think that's part of the
thing is, uh, you know, creativity thrives with limits where
you're trying to figure out, like, how do I overcome
this obstacle because I don't have the resources to do it,
and they've been giving all the resources. And not just
the movies you mentioned, there's of course the very very
(05:04):
expensive flop television series Citadel.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
On episode Wow, I'm.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Sorry sorry series started, Siria was like, let me tell
you about Citadel.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Siah was like, yes, please watch Citadel.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
We really need able to watch it. We need Sonny back.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
They've been obviously extremely successful managers and stewards of an IP,
but when they've been when they've gone out on their own,
not so much. And Electric State is only the most
recent and again an utter disaster three hundred twenty million
dollars from a movie nobody cares about. And you have
(05:46):
to also wonder, as I do.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
You know.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
There's been a lot of talk about does the MCU
create stars, and the answer has mostly been no, and
I think that's probably out by the evidence. But here's
another bit of evidence that you know, Chris Pratt.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Is they came out of an ip and what happens.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
And what happened Millie Bobby Brown. I think this is
a pretty big knock against them being stars in the
traditional sense that you launch something off of them, and yeah,
just a disaster.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
I will say Milly Bobby Brown has been essentially only
at Netflix, so I think that in its own way
is you know, good for her, but it is essentially
like a gilded cage. You only get to be in
projects that get brought to Netflix, which, like the Electric State,
not always the highest quality projects. I will say Millie
(06:48):
Bobby Brown was perfectly cast in the Andola Holmes movies
on a fun movie, which actually makes you, oh, maybe
there's a space for her Outside of this. They did
a movie called Damsel Less, so but still kind of fun.
But yeah, I think Chris Pratt, definitely once you take
him out of a Jurassic World or a Guardians of
the Galaxy, what does he have to offer and the answer.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Is not very much. Also, I want to know how
much of.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
The money went on star voices, because this is a
this is a movie that's got a lot of weird
robots in it, and those like I Jason Alexander, You're
gonna put him in a movie like this and just
absolutely waste tim please Woody Harrelson. Also, why is there
like a there's like an evil mister Peanut robot in
(07:35):
this I mean, is he evil?
Speaker 2 (07:36):
I don't know. He just looks evil to me.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
But this movie is absolutely deranged and we should mention
once again a movie that has courted controversy because of
the use of AI for voices.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
So should that's gonna come?
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Three?
Speaker 1 (07:55):
This is one of those where I'm like, you know
what a coust three hundred and twenty million dollars They
needed to They needed to cut costs somewhere, did they not?
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Jason said, They said, they said, please help Possibly we
need to say please help.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Us, Please help us stop spending money on this anyway.
Next up in losing money news, Apple is apparently spending
and well spending. Apple is losing upwards of a billion
dollars on their Apple TV Plus streaming platform, they've been losing.
(08:32):
Uh you know, last year they were able to cut
their losses to about five hundred million. It was about
five billion and losses previously. But that's but that's investment costs.
Like let's not get first of all, let's not care
that a corporation loses money. I personally don't. I don't
give a ship. Apple makes more money every second than
(08:53):
we will possibly can possibly imagine. And that five billion
loss in the earlier years is because they're investing in
IP and making movies and starting production on various projects,
YadA YadA, YadA YadA, building out. Now they've cut that
down to a billion because people are signing up and
(09:15):
severance and all these other things. Uh so all that
is to say, a billion dollars, that's a lot. But
also who fucking cares. Yeah, we don't have free we
don't have healthcare in this country. Just give us severance.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
I'm like.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Also, they just reported a three hundred and ninety one
billion dollar revenue for twenty twenty four, Like they can
afford one billion dollars. Apple TV Plus is essentially the
costco hot dog of.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Apple, like a lost lead.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
They were just saying at making banging TV. People are
watching it, they're getting their data that they want whatever
things that they get that you know, we're signing up
to watch severance and probably saying that Apple, we can
now assume them when they inevitably turn their robot dogs
on us or whatever. You know what, just let us
have it, and you know what, good good for them? Everyone,
(10:08):
Every corporation should be trying to.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Lose a billion dollars a year.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
A billion dollars creative people to make creative stuff so
that people can watch something enjoyable and fun to talk
about while everything else goes to shit. At least give
us that.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
At least give us that along with your one thousand
dollars phones that you're.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Making the money back on. The question is you know
what is this about? You know, we've seen Netflix chase Oscars,
We've seen other corporations chase not just the content game,
but the critical acclaim. Clearly so thirsty for the claim
that comes with it's what's in it for Apple? I
think what's in it for Apple is one Apple has
(10:50):
associated itself Apple. The brand Apple is about we make
great stuff. We don't make a million different things like Sony.
We don't you know, have this open source kind of
thing like Google and Android. What we do is we
make like one, we make like three phones, and we
make like a couple of tablets. But they're really really good.
(11:15):
And so what Apple is doing in the content game
is similarly, we don't make a lot a lot of shows,
but the shows we make are really good. Even if
you're not watching them, they're good. Yeah, and I think
you know, that's the ethos that they're following.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Yeah. Absolutely, And even with like underseen kind.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Of movies that they've done, like the Tetris movie, which
is so brilliant with Taron Egerton, and obviously shows that
we've talked about before like Slow Horses. I think that
you're after All Mankind? Yeah, Silo Yeah, oh and and
those shows like I before Apple tv plus properly existed,
I visited an LA press day for for All Mankind, which.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Obviously I was very excited about, and.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
They had rebuilt the NASA you know communications room where
you kind of hear people go, yeah, here was still
we have a problem, you know, that kind of situation
in full, and it was so beautifully put together and
every single detail was perfect, and I remember thinking, oh,
(12:21):
they're really serious about this, like it felt. I've been
on set visits where they're like, this show is set
in their eighties, and then everyone's like spotting, like, oh,
there's a WWE poster.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
From nineteen ninety two.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
You know. No, this was like you're in NASA in
the fifties and sixties. Like it felt so real and
so vibrant, and they had all these different sets built.
And then, honestly, I've not really been on another set
visit like that till you know, almost, you know, six
seven years later, when I was recently on the Minecraft,
(12:54):
they did a junket where they built all these sets.
So I think, in its own way, Apple has been
ahead of the game and is just committed, like you said,
to making really great TV and really good movies, just
like they make an Apple phone. Way, if you go
on Apple Plus TV, you know, there's only probably like
sixty eight things on there. I've reviewed all the different
(13:15):
streaming services multiple times for IGN, and I'm always shocked
by how little Apple has. But the quality is good,
and also the cost is very low AKA you can
get it free, as we have talked many many times
about on here.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
So yeah, very interesting.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
I do think Severance is going to have a good
Award season Emmy's run this year, and it will be
interesting to see what happens with season three and if we.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Get it in less than three years, because we need
it in less than three years. Ben Stiller, please.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Ben has said quite acerbically that it will not take
three years, which you know, no strikes would, et cetera.
And hopefully that's the case. Well, speaking of corporations losing
a lot of money, we'll be right back after a
word from Responsible.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
And we're back.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Next up, more movie news and lots of delays for
upcoming movies from the beleaguered Warner Brothers corporation. David Zaslav
what's going on Paul Thomas Anderson's latest film. According to
a recent announcement by Warner Brothers, his new movie is
(14:47):
a crime thriller titled One Battle after Another starring Leonardo DiCaprio,
and it's been pushed back from August eighth to September
twenty sixth. And Maggie Chillenhall's much much looked forward to,
certainly on this pod Frankenstein movie The Bride has been
(15:09):
moved from September to March of twenty twenty six, which
might have been done to give space to Gammelo del
Toro's Jacob Loordi Frankenstein Bride Frankenstein movie, which is coming
to Netflix in November. That makes sense. This is a
lot like a deep impact Armageddon type situation.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Exactly, a'm ageddin like, how do we do this?
Speaker 3 (15:33):
I think this is very interesting. I had somehow missed
the PTA's next movie was going to be another Thomas
Pinsion adaptation. This time he did Inherent Biss and this
time I believe this is based on Vineland. But I
really love Paul Thomas Anderson every movie he made, apart
from I did not love Licorice Pizza. I am not
(15:55):
a lickorice pizza support weird weird one.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
What you want to know that? But Phantom Thread is
one of my favorite movies. Didn't know it will be blood.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
There will be blood, fantastic. Didn't know that Leonardo DiCaprio
is going to be in this movie. Trailer looks incomprehensible,
which is exactly why we want from no idea what's
going on? But it looks great and I am very
excited for the bride.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
It looks super weird. Apparently it is a musical.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Apparently it is set in nineteen twenties, like gangster filled
America that it has a Frankenstein covered in tattoos played
by Christian Bale, and the bride has a very unique
design too. I love the kind of classic as we
would call them, universal monsters. Though here, of course, this
is going to be a Warner Brothers situation.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
I it's going to be interesting.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
I think these are less about a delay because the
film isn't ready, and more about jiggling your releases so
that they are put out at the best time possible
obviously as well pushing one battle after another to that
September time puts it sort of in the very early
frame of Oscars, which is always the thing with PTA
(17:10):
and you know now Leo. So yeah, I think I
think it's fine. I'm interested to see. These are two
very weird movies, and Warner Brothers otherwise has like they
have the Minecraft movie coming up, which is going to
be huge. They obviously a Superman, so I think this
is going to be a big year for them.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
With weird, with with their big blockbuster.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Kind of temp pole movies potentially, So it makes sense
to me that they're they're kind of jiggling around the
weirder indie stuff.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
But I'm excited to see it.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
I like both of these creators, and I'll be interested
to see what they do next.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Up, Disney announces that they love sequels. Of course, the
Inside Out too huge hit, so why not do another one?
Speaker 4 (17:53):
Yeah, Coco two, I feel like an almost impossible move.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
No, it really is cooled Coco two and Co two.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Okay, So Coco two is the title which has been
announced that the Disney shareholder, meaning Disney CEO Bob Iger,
has said, you're on another investor called Belieger constantly Belieger
Disney Corporation.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Quote.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
We're leaning a little bit more into sequels and franchises,
given the environment and given what it takes to get
people out of their homes to see a film. Leaning
on franchises that are familiar is actually a smart thing.
And he is, I mean Inside Out two says He's right, Yes,
the live action stuff says not so much. But uh,
I loved Coco, love.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
I love Coco.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
I do think it is pretty much as close to
a perfect movie as you can get in a kind
of Pixar system. I think personally, this is I worry
that the integrity and emotional theft of the first movie
will be slightly damaged by this. But I will say
Inside Out two did a fantastic job of adding more
(19:13):
to the conversation around mental health emotional stability. They managed
to do something that felt inventive and true to the
original and kind of expanded the world. And I have
to say I actually preferred Inside Out two to Inside
Out one. That's probably not gonna happen with Coco, because
I think Coco is.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
A brilliant, brilliant movie.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
I'm interested to see where they can go that won't
kind of take away, and also if they're gonna be
able to keep up the bangas songs, because Coco has
some of the best songs from any Pixar Disney type space.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Up next, sad news. David Stephen Cohen, the writer of
the Courage the Cowardly Dog series, has passed away at
the very young age of fifty eight. Got to start
on alf TV, but was most well known as the
head writer for Courage the Cowardly Dog. Passed away due
(20:10):
to cancer. According to an announcement by his friends, Courage
the Cowardly Dog a great series because it had in
every episode. The message was even if you're scared, you
can do it.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Scared.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Whatever it is, it's a really big deal for kids.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
And also, again, sorry I keep talking about Minecraft just
weirdly on my mind.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
I have seen the movie. I thought it was pretty fun.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
But one of the things I thought was best about
it that made me think about Courage the Cowardly Dog
is it has some really scary moments. And I think
that as kids, we use fictional shows and movies to
essentially learn our own boundaries about what we are scared
of and aren't scared of.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
And I think that a lot.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Of us, For a lot of us, Courage the Cowardly
Dog was part of a kind of trin of those programs,
along with Are You Afraid of the Dark and Goosebumps.
So yeah, really sad Loss, such a brilliant creative mind,
and yeah, great time to revisit a really brilliant show.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
Ooo.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Whoo that's my impression of Courage being scared.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Very good.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
On next week's episode of X ray Vision, we're diving
into this month's book club selection, The Merchant and the
Alchemist Gate from Ted Chang's collection of short stories Exhalation
we're gonna be talking about the Severn's two finale, Wow, big, big,
big goodness, and we're gonna be keeping up, of course
with Darede Were Born Again. That's it for news. Thanks
for listening.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Bye x.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
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Night and is a production of iHeart Podcast.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Our executive producers are Joel Monique and Aaron Kaufman.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Our supervisor producer is Abu Zafar.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Our producers are Common, Laurent Dean Jonathan and Bay Wack.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
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