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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Lucasfilm, Twilight eight twenty four investment.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
It's news news and I'm Rosie Knight and welcome back
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Speaker 1 (00:36):
Coming to you from our art podcast where we're bringing
you three episodes of weekless News. It's news news.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
In today's previously on episode, we are as always catching
up on the biggest ninety news of the week, including
Lucasfilm announced full very.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Very stacks maybe maybe two stacks, question Mark cost the
Star Wars star Fighter, which has officially gun shooting off
a Star Wars movie in a very long time.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
The Twilight saga Guys is gonna return to theaters in October,
so obviously we will be talking about that and more.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Let's go to it. First up, Star Wars Boom bomb
ba ba bomb bomb blab ba bom ba ba ba
ba ba. Because it's Star Wars Starfighter news. That's right.
Where's the where have the Star Wars movies been? Here's
your answer. It's in production. Casting information is hitting the
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streets and here we go.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
We know.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Directed by Sean Levy starring Get this Folks, Ryan Gosling,
We knew that, but that's pretty huge. Alongside Flynn Gray
Matt Smith.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
He is the villain the report we are we love
to hear it.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Uh Mia Goff, Aaron Pierre Love, Cylenberg, Jamael Westman, Danielings
and Aby Adams.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
And Amy Adams. I feel like that should have been
higher up there. I hate to put a heteronormative spin
on things, but would be nice if Ryan Gosling had
an age appropriate love interest in this movie like Amy Adams. Also,
I feel like anytime a redhead comes up, we all
have to say, is she gonna be Mara Jade? The
answer is no. It expanded universe fans, but I am
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interested in this. It's gonna be allegedly from what we've
been seeing in general reports set around five years after
the episode nine, so after the sequel lay new era
we haven't seen before, allegedly again, and I'm intrigued. I
was hoping for something a little bit further out, but
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five years, you know, let's take it. Also, wasn't expecting
to see Simon Bird from the in Between.
Speaker 6 (02:48):
Us fame in a Star Wars movie.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Sure he's great.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Yeah, I'm intrigued.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
It looks like it's gonna be a classic Sean Levy
kid adult team up. Fling Gray and Ryan Gosling were
pictured sitting on kind of an old school looking X wing.
So I think we're going to get another one of
these kind of like Mando style stories, which makes sense.
This will actually come out a year after it's gonna
come out May twenty twenty seven, and it will as
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in the year twenty twenty seven, which is allegedly about
a year after the Mandalorian movie will come out next
year supposedly. So yeah, I'm intrigued, intriguing.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
I'm I'm kind of this is an incredible cast list.
It's a crazy cast. It's a crazy cast. I'm a
little I'm kind of more interested in who they don't
mention here, because you have to feel like, set five
years after the end of the sequel trilogy, that some
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of our phaves from those stories simply must appear in
this well, especially.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
If they are still going to go forward with this
Ray kind of as a Jedi teacher, I was, I
was not sure that this was that close, but people
were able to find reporting that. I guess maybe at
celebration or someone they'd said, we're all we get the
description here in the trades that it is an all new,
standalone adventure fingers crossed, an entirely original story set in
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a period of time never before exploreding Star Wars. So
technically five years after that would make sense.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
If you just yet a Daisy rid like.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Sure, five years, ten years like a Daisy Ridley makes sense.
I want more than anything for John Boyega to come back,
getzlick back, like, get that money from Disney.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Enjoy a good, meaty role.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
I don't know if it's gonna happen, but you know what,
I'm intrigued. I can't visualize Sean Levy's sense of humor
in the Star Wars universe. I think of it as
something far more contemporary, you know, but especially you know,
post de be Wolverine. But obviously that movie made a
billion dollars when a lot of those are making that,
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so of course they go for him.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Let's see.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
I mean, I feel like we know so little about it.
But Ryan Gosling in a X Wing is great.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
I'll take it is great. Up next in semi embarrassing news,
The Twilight Sun, embarrassing for every oct Why other things? Money?
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Money?
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Tell me?
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Why?
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (05:22):
So I'm going to tell you why. This is part
of Lionsgate waking up to the fact that their buying
market are now adults with adult jobs. This has really
been a during the pandemic especially. There are a couple
of different meme accounts, the perfectly named Twilight Hoe and
Twilight Memes and stuff like that that basically kind of
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almost started, like I would say, a kind of like
an ironic reclamation of the franchise, where a lot of
people who grew up with it were like, Yeah, I
still enjoy watching it, but let's talk about how it sucks.
It's kind of taken over. It's gone into that kind
of B movie cult space now. I mean the funny
thing about this is, guess what if you live in
LA they play in Twilight in the theater, you can
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go plays them regularly because they are now those kind
of call them respects.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
You're the rocky horror of our zaar.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Yes, and I'm gonna say hilariously, a great great film critic,
Jenyamato had actually said like, oh, I hope that they
bring in like a shadow cast or something kind of
rocky horror show style. But what I will say is
I did the Twilight fifteenth anniversary screening at the Los
Fhlees three so very much in that la space of
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you know, people who love these movies, but it was
an absolute riot. People showed up in costumes.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
I think that they usually.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Throughout history have released these every so often. Again, I
think Cinema did something like this, But this is essentially
a wide release and you can buy tickets now. It's
gonna be from October. I don't know if they're gonna
do marathons or if they'll be doing one a week,
which is what they did in the past. But the
fact that Lionsgate like made a new poster for it
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makes me think that this is no longer like a
fan screening. This is probably gonna be a surprising money maker,
kind of in the vein of a Revenge of the Sith,
because there's also kids who have never seen them in
the movie theaters who now love them or who know
them through the memes. When I went when I did
the one in Los Philes at the American Cinematique, like,
people were cheering when Carlisle Cullen came on. They were
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singing along. They were, oh, you know, and Carlile Cullen
comes on they're all cheering, like Thanos entered the stage,
So I think it's gonna be fun. This also does
seem like a reason for us to finally maybe delve
into this this mess of Twilight. But yeah, it's interesting.
I think a lot of people were hoping for a
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different kind of announcement because the official Twilight account posted
you know, tomorrow, and.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
I think it was like forever begins. Now, let me
tell you something, that announcement of new Twilight stuff movie whatever.
M I I'm not going to guarantee you, but I
feel like it will happen off the off the momentum.
I agree, either it's in planning now or this will
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seal the deal. The success of this will seal the deal.
As a look, here's a proof positive that there is
a tremendous momentum behind whatever the case may be. I
think we will get that news on the on the
back end of this.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
I think you're right. I think they wanted to come in.
They want it to make like ten million dollars or
fifteen million dollars, like I think Revenge of the SIF
ended up making around twenty and they want to say, look,
there's still an audience They had announced a while back
a Twilight animated series that was like going to be
an adult animated Twilight series that was going to adapt
Midnight Sun, but that was at Netflix, Netflix known for
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counting animation. I think this is a push to get
them to make something new.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
And four years.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Pretty much every main anniversary year so far, like ten, fifteen, twenty,
Stephanie Meyer has released or announced something new, which is
always a cursed announcement. We got Midas, which revealed that
Edward is essentially like a psychotic school shooter in form,
absolutely cursed. But the one that's even more cursed that
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everyone is super worried she's going to announce is the
long promised Jacob brynesme romance novel, which absolutely nobody needs.
So please Stephanie, do not do that. But I will
be going to see Twilight in theaters again.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Listen, this story in and of itself exists because of
various bad ideas promulgated by see So what's a few
more bad ideas more between friends time, Let's take a
quick break and we'll be right back. Yeah, and we're back.
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A twenty four gets an AI investor. It's Legacy Studios
here's the announcement.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
This is part of a big New Yorker I Yeah,
they did about their version of autas and why they're different.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Here's a snippet from that New Yorker article quote Legacy
studios such as Sony have attempted to buy a stake
in A twenty four. Instead, the company has opted to
take Wall Street money, preferring not to be drawn into
what one executive called Hollywood's one hundred years of doing
things a certain way. So what actually kind of a
regime of Wall Street driven innovation going to mean? Well?
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The article continues that one of the backers will be
Thrived Capital, which helped secure twenty four to three point
five billion dollar valuation and is also a major backer
of Open AI and A twenty four court of the
firm specifically to figure out how AI could help it
make movies. Whether that's making the process more efficient, whether
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that's creating visual effects, story points. Who knows. The kind
of road is wide open, but certainly A twenty four
is looking at ways that AI can help it streamline
its business. Scott Belski, head of A twenty four Labs,
is spearheading this and ari Astra recently said two letterbocks quote.
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If you talk to these engineers and the people ushering
this AI in, they don't talk about AI as this
great new medium. They talk about it as a god. Well,
I'll just say that, like we are certainly at the
point in the kind of AI narrative continue war people
are beginning to realize, oh shit, like this is a
powerful tool. But it's not that it's not like godlike.
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And it certainly seems as though we're farther and farther
away if we were ever approaching a truly sentient computer
that is going to do all the things that it's
counted as being. And I would also say to Ari
Astor that the people who draw their paychecks from the
AI industry are probably going to be the most biased
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people in terms of exactly what AI will be. So
we'll see. But this is this is interesting.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
It's interesting, and I think like it's funny because obviously,
really famously we had Daniel Kwan come out that one
of the co directors of everything over once and talking
about how it kind of like doesn't work alongside it.
So I think this is going to be as A
twenty four grows and tries to make those Michael Bay
level big blockbuster movies that they have said they wanted
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to make. This was always going to be part of
the conversation and always going to be part of the
kind of the stress and intrigue and confusion of making
movies in this era. It will be interesting to see
what they mean because also, like, isn't everyone who's an
investor capital probably some kind of has some kind of
connection to AI right now, Like I feel like that's
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where all the money is. So let's see with this one.
But yeah, I mean, when some of your biggest filmmakers
are saying they don't love it, it's probably gonna end
up getting messy. We'll see who makes the first AI
movie at A twenty four.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
I think that's because people are seeing now that is
it really powerful? Is it a powerful tool? Yes? Is
it all that it's been touted to be? No, just
look at the some of the very recent obvious AI
generated footage that is kind of like embarrassingly been revealed
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on social media and elsewhere. Is AI footage? Okay, let's
go back to the UK slang corner because I was
so I have just become aware of the of the
of the UK phrase piss boil. This is like something
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one of my soccer podcast Football Classics, Thank You. The
hosts were of the opinion that piss boil actually exists
online more than in real life. I have. I don't know,
you tell me piss boil. What is piss boil?
Speaker 3 (14:28):
So I would say, I would say it's more if
you're using it and use it in character, you'd be like,
I'm ari Asta and the idea that I have to
use AI on my movies really boils my piss, Like
it means like you're like so fucking pissed off that
like it's angry, it's boiling in your guts.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
It's boiling and boiling and the guts.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
The funny thing is this is, I would say, an
interesting crossroads of a traditional like organic, weird British slang,
which is like up North. For example, I heard people
say boil my piss. That boils my piss. She's really
boiling my piss. But I hadn't heard it for a
long time.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
But over the last couple.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Of years read it especially, I started to see it
popping up again, So I think it is. It is
definitely real British slang. I've heard people say it, but
it is now taking on more of an existence in
the cultural kind of you know, language, by being such
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a funny slang that people have started to use online.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
It does certainly seem like there's a morphing of the
form going on because the the I have encountered this
particular slang as in this format like oh what a
what a piss boiler? Or that guy's such a piss
boil rather than this is.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Like I'm like, I'm like, maybe he is stressed, Like
if he's stressed, like or if you say, I could understand,
like that game was such a piss boiler, Like that
game really pissed everyone off. Like I get that maybe,
or maybe something along the lines of, like you know,
that guy, he's always fuck piss is always fucking boiling,
He's always fucking pissed off.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
But I don't know.
Speaker 6 (16:14):
The funniest thing of it, though, is like people hate
it online. That was one of the funniest things when
you brought up I'm like, there's like so many threads
on Reddit that I found where people.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Are like, this is like the most disgusting phrase I've
ever heard in my whole life. But yeah, this is
a this is an old one. You can find stuff
about it, like it's Urban Dictionary. It was included on
an Urban Dictionary in around two thousand and eight, so
that usually means that it was like a long, long
long before slang, and then when the Internet and Urban
Dictionary really came about, people wanted to put it on there.
(16:47):
But yeah, good job, Wayne, exactly the name that I
would have expected to put this on Urban Dictionary. And
guess what, thanks to Urban Dictionary, you can get a
boils my piss mug. Apparently that's just advertising that this
thing is actually so incredible. Well, thank you, we're all
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getting them. But yeah, if you got any questions about slang,
ask me. UK explains that, Oh, UK slang Corner, I've
got the slang for you.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Let's seek a quick break and we'll be right back
with our interview with Twisted Metals Mike Mitchell. We're back
and we're delighted to be joined by Mike Mitchell. Mike
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Mitchell is a writer, a producer, and actor. You may
know him for his hysterical and long running fast food
review podcast doll Boise, he co host with Nick Wiger,
or his work in the Tomorrow War, or his his
writing and parks and rec and other places. We're so
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delighted to have Mike Mitchell with us. Mike, thanks for
joining the program.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Great, delightful to have you so happy with it.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
After that.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Set up, what you would just like, boom, I'm a
podcast that everything's great, easiest set out, incredible.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
We must discuss your turn as Stu the professional Lackey
professional Minion.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Yes, I would say he's like a kind kind killers.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Kind hearted killer who's like evolving a sense of morality. Yes,
how would you describe Stu.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
Professional Minion is a great way to put That's also
kind of how I describe myself in general as a
professional Minia. Yeah. I think he's like, you know, a
kind hearted guy who's trying to survive in a crazy
apocalypse and uh, he's managed to do it. You know,
he has a big heart and maybe not you know,
the biggest brain, but uh, but he's he's lovable and
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I and in he's I think he's I think he's
so lovable that even you know, psychopaths are like, I'll
keep this guy around for a little bit.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
A very useful thing to have in the world of
Twisted Maw.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Character season one, Stu is spending a lot of time
with He's He's I'll say this, Stu has experienced multiple
different kind of leadership styles through Agent Stone and then
Everybody's like Murderer's Favorite Murders clown and star of multiple
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editions of the Twisted Mail video am Sweet Tooth, Sweet Tooth.
How would you describe the those leadership styles and and
what does to take away? What are the pros and
cons of either?
Speaker 5 (19:44):
I think that the leadership, you know, the Agent Stone
was a bit of a you know, a kind of
had a bit of a fascist that seemed he was
running some sort of police state. He was. He was
very strict, and Stu is Stu is a guy who
like doesn't want to see anyone get hurt. And he
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saw it with both. He saw it with both leaders
that he was with. You know, he just want to
hang with his buddy Mike, who's this uh Taj Bahms,
who's great, He's my bestie. And then the great Thomas
Hayden Church played Agent Stone, who I loved on and offset,
but he is you know, it's I guess it's kind
of like which direction of psychopath you want? To go with,
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and I think for for for Stu's Sweet Tooth is like,
you know, he's killing other psychos, and and Agent Stone
is kind of killing innocent people, and Stu is like,
I'm more with the psychopath who kills the bad people.
But he doesn't want any of it, you know what
I mean. He wants a way out. He he doesn't
he doesn't want to exist in that world at all.
But uh, in season two, he kind of is trying
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to become his own man and be like, can I
survive in the apocalypse and not be a murderous psychopath?
And it's kind of it's hard. It's it's a hard
thing to do. And you know, I'm never I've luckily
never had to live in a post apocalypse where you
have to kill.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Like, let's well get to ahead of ourselves.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
Yeah, I hope. I hope that my charm can pay off,
like Stu if we have some sort of apocalypse scenario.
But uh, but yeah no, uh, I think sweet Tooth
is more fun to be around. And sweet Tooth also
he sees the good and Stu he sees him as
a survivor, and and Agent Stone is you know, in
season one, Stu is very close to being thrown off
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the hoover dam as you know, he's he's he's going
to be killed at one point, and he just you know,
you have to be heartless with him and and with
sweet Tooth, you can still have heart and that's what's
that's all Stu is.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
So yeah, which is very fun. I think is really
a unique role to play. I was gonna say, like,
there's a lot of post apocalyptic stories, but there's not
a lot of characters like Stu. So what did you
do to prepare when you were going into this, Because
you can't really look for other characters like Stu, because
there's no kind of sweethearted guys who just survive by
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their charm. That's a pretty unique role.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
You know. I looked at some of the Twisted I
played Twisted Metal, you know, back in the day when
I was a kid, but I was a Nintendo kid,
so I was always playing Twisted Metal over people's houses
and stuff like that. So I played it, and you know,
it's like, you know, a twenty I mean, like a
thirty year old game at this point, so kind of
hard to play. But I was messing around with Mike
(22:35):
and Stu and Twisted Metal two and I tried to
get as much. There's not much story there. Michael jonthan Smith,
there's not a different He's very much a bro. Like
at the end of If You Win, with Mike and Steu,
they they wished to fly and then they jump off
a building and then Sweet Tooth is I'm sorry, Calypso
has bought them plane tickets. That's the big twist with
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Mike and Steu. And there's not my just besides that
they like like babes. That was kind of their uh
that was their whole thing, is like we love babes,
and so I was like, okay, all right, So you know,
Michael John this Smith did a great job and he
actually he wrote the role with me and mine which
is so which is so kind. Uh. And so there's
a lot of me in stew which is probably embarrassing
(23:20):
to admit, but uh, I think it is just uh,
but you know, playing off, playing off Samoa Joe who
is he he's he? And and TODs Bonds, who's an
awesome actor and I love playing with Taj and then
and then samo Joe is is is so great on
set and he's doing the voice and then Will Arnett,
you know, dubs over Joe. But Joe is on set
(23:42):
just giving a great performance and I'm I'm with him.
And it's just such a fun dynamic of a psycho
and kind of a dummy just playing along with each other.
And it's it's such a it's such a blast to
play for for two seasons. And I hope, I hope
we get to do more of it. I hope there.
I hope there's a third because because I've I've had
it's it's like the most fun I've ever had on
set and doing stuff that I never thought I would do.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Really, Oh man, I was That's what I was going
to ask you, because it's like, this is a Walt
wall action show with a cast that is kind of
like unbelievably stack tell us about how fun it is
to be on set.
Speaker 5 (24:19):
It's I mean, it's it's the best. I mean, first
of all the Captain America. Of course, it's crazy. Anthony Matthews,
he's the best. But Stephanie Beatrice is one of the
best people in the world. I love Stephanie. She's so funny,
and she's so great in the show and just such
a leader, and and and she's she's awesome and she
(24:39):
includes you in everything, and she's I can't say enough
kind things about her. And and then yeah, this year
we added so many funny people. Uh there was, I
mean there was the cast last year was great, and
and then this year we added like so many comedy pros,
and I was like, I gotta step my game up.
I'm not this funny. There's too many funny.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
You don't consider you don't consider yourself a comedy pro.
With this point, with a fage stretching back to Parks
and rec and other other widely beloved program.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
I think there's something inside of me. I don't know
if this is Stu like or my Irish catholicness or
something that I can't ever call myself a pro and anything.
I'm a comedy doer, I guess, or a comedy attempter.
I've I've been around. I've been around the game for
a while now. But then look this year, you got
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Lisa Gilroy, you got Patty Guggenheim, and you got John o'
wilson and oh so she's so funny and so good.
Richard de Clerk there, like who plays grim Anthony Kerrigan?
Got I didn't even get to Karragan yet. There's so
many a lot of heavy hitters coming in. So I
was just, you know, I was I was excited to
be a part of the part of the party. I was.
(25:53):
I was happy to be there, you know what I mean.
And and uh, it was so fun playing off all
those people. I'm me and Taj and and John O
Wilson like specifically had so much fun together there. You know,
their best they Johno takes over the best bud role
for me with Taj for for Mike and Dame. And
it was just so fun playing jealous of like, well
(26:15):
what was going on with those two and my best
friend and stuff like that. So uh, and and and
Johno's hilarious. He's like he's he Dave. He just plays
He's so good at playing an asshole that still is likable,
Like he still is likable no matter what. But you're like,
I shouldn't like this guy. I shouldn't like him at all,
(26:37):
but he but he pulled it. But he pulls it off.
And like I think when they were casting it, they
were like, he's like the only guy that could deliver
these shitty lines and be this like annoying guy that
people still liked, so so I tip my cap to Johno.
He's he's fantastic again. And Lisa Gilroy just being like
an insane bug lady. She's like, uh as Vermin and
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and yeah, Patty Gugenheim came in as Raven and killed it.
It's just every day was so fun. And I mean,
Karrigan's Calypso is just so good. Carrigan is is so
so so good. It's it's so fun to watch that
guy do his thing. He's he's fantastic. And I and
I I hadn't watched Barry and now I'm I'm I
started Barry.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
And oh wow, wow, what's that been like because that's
such a huge experience as a watcher.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
Yeah, it's I mean, it's it's been a blast so far.
And I and I and I and I love the guy,
you know what I mean. I became a I became
a fan on set and now I'm now I'm catching
up on everything he's done. So I'm gonna be all
nervous around him in season three if if.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
It happens, do you get to do you ever get
to mess around in the vehicles? Like how is the action?
I mean this is there is so much wild action
and violence in this in this very riginating television show,
and I'm just thinking, gosh, Mike actually get to get
in the bus.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
Yeah too much. I mean, like it is like it
it's terrifying. The so Sweet Tooth ice cream truck is
in the show. We drive around this big, crazy ice
cream truck that has like weapons on the wall, and
I so in the show, Sweet Tooth's best friend is
(28:17):
a paper bag because the show is insane, and he
sits and the paper bag is sitting in the front seat.
So I'm always standing in the back of this ice
cream truck, which is a mail truck that has has
been converted into this like death ice cream truck, and
it is it's a horrible vehicle. I mean, they do
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such a great job. It looks great. It looks fantastic.
And I tip my cap to to everyone, every male
person in the United States of America and everywhere in
the world because this this the mail truck was when
we shot season one in New Orleans. It there's no
air conditioning, so there were and and it's not even
I guess it's like not even that old of a
(28:59):
mail truck, but just no air conditioning gets so so
hot it's like an oven immediately. And then I'm just
standing in the back there and they're whipping this thing
around and there's weapons on the and there's like rusty
weapons on the wall. It's it's crazy, and we were
just you know, they'd be like, all right, throw yourself
this way in that way. And then eventually Samoa Joe
who plays Sweet Tooth and I would be like, would
(29:19):
be like, can we like plug up like the some
of the weapons. We'd just be like bouncing into the weapons.
We went like the hooks on the wall. It was
it was insane. And you know, of course they're like
driving this truck at at fifty miles per hour and
stuff like that, like like it's shaking the truck like
you know what I mean. But the stunt people are
so good and so professional and you're safe the entire time.
(29:42):
But you know, there'd be a stunt guy who's just
wearing like a black hood to and he's driving in
the other seat. He's driving on the where the actual
the mail carriers drive and he's just you know, wearing
a black hood. You just see his eyes and then
he's like this one's gonna be fast and he goes
fifty miles per hour down a little alleyway is terrifying.
And then they had pod cars, which is you know,
(30:02):
when you were in when I wasn't in the mail truck,
you would be in a car and then there would
be a professional driver on top of your carsal they
were in charge of the brakes and the wheel and
everything like that. And it's like the scariest you know,
theme park ride. It's it's it's crazy. Those guys have
an all rehearsed and they're and they're all pros, you know.
And and uh, the person who's driving our car was
a former NASCAR driver and just so it's it's insane.
(30:26):
And after we do taste it, you have fun. And
I was like, no, crazy, this is terrible, terrifying. And
we did so much of it and I like all
of it is, which I love. All of it is real,
you know what I mean? Like, uh, you know, they
they shot so much stuff practically, which was so which
is so cool, you know, like uh and and uh,
(30:48):
you know, I think the fans of the game are
always like, we want like as much driving as we can.
We did it, and we did like a ton of it.
It's it's that sort of thing of like you can't like,
you know, I don't know if you can have a
show that's just entirely on wheels or whatever. But we
we shot so much car stuff, and uh yeah, just
it's it's terrifying. But it looks so cool. And and
those guys are such pros. And I hope that they,
(31:10):
you know, I hope they I hope they get acknowledged
for it, and I hope people see that in the
show and and and realize that there's like awesome stunt
people doing that stuff.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
It looks incredibly dangerous.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
It does that doesn't seem like.
Speaker 5 (31:23):
It really is, I mean. And also like things are
blowing up as you're driving, you know what I mean.
It's just is it is. It's it's just things. I
never thought that I would. I thought that I would
play like the lumpy boyfriend or husband or something and stuff,
you know what I mean, like a loser guy. But
I didn't think I played a loser in the Apocalypse.
So it's it's a blast. I mean, I love doing it.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Very long time, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (31:44):
Much longer than you think.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Stu shit, Yeah, like for sure, Well seeing as you know,
we might not be too far from the apocalypse ourselves. Well,
like the three things you've learned from Stu that you
would take into like a real world apocalypse.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
Man, I think the biggest one is just like personal
hygiene and we lot we I mean, the first thing
I learned is that there was just I'm done for
because there's like no air conditioning in apocalypse and I
just am I'm I'm too babied and pampered. I'm just
done for, you know what I mean. Like they don't
(32:20):
need they don't need podcasters in the in the post apocalypse,
post apocalyptic world, which I know, there's not even fast food.
So that's the other thing is like so I have
a fast food of review podcast, do boys? And I'm like, so,
you know there's I have no purpose in the post apocalypse,
(32:41):
but no a c. And then just every day, I
mean every day we would go to set, they are
like all right, and they just like time to like
dirt you up, and they just start covering you in
dirt and then putting dirt under your fingernails, you know
what I mean. And so like it was just and
it's just like you just felt covered in filth, every
day and then you just you just embrace it, you
know what I mean. And there's an episode where I
(33:03):
was running around in my underwear and then they were like,
let's go outside and they would just start throwing blood
at me at like you know, six am, and uh
and then you know, like I'm just in my trailer
in my underwear, sitting there covered in blood with my phone,
just being like I don't know what to do with myself.
I'm like, uh, you know, just so I think personal hygiene,
like it's just another reason I couldn't, like you know,
(33:25):
at the end of the day, I couldn't in the
post apocalypse, you can't take a shower. And luckily with
just a metal I I was, you know, they would
they would have me come into the trailer and they
would spray me down with a down powerwash. They would
just and then you you know, if you went out
to eat your your fingernails would be like just like
you know, like there would just be dirt under them
(33:46):
for throughout the entire week. So it was like, so,
you know, I like, I just all I learned is
that I can't I wouldn't be able to live in
the post apocalypse. So you know, it's good.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
To know for myself too. I mean I can't I
can't like for more than a minute, so I would
be deadening for me.
Speaker 5 (34:05):
We ran and I wore like big clunky boots, and
we would always be that was the thing with with
and Joe was a professional wrestler, and yeah, and I've
said this before, Joe, I'm a big guy, and it's
it was kind of fun to have a man there
who could just toss me around and like lift me up,
(34:26):
like made me feel like a child. It was I
was like like like I think like in takes where
like he would throw me. I probably had like a
little smile at first, and like, all right, cut, you
need to like be scared.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
And again looking serious.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
But but but Joe and I like halfway through season
one and then halfway through season two, we're like, hey,
we're in it again. Where this is like twisted metal,
where like we got to run or crawl on our
knees or be in our underwear and run around and
like it is it's a very physical show. And so
we were all at the end of the season like
we're all limping. Joe, like I think Joe broke something
(34:59):
like my knee got all messed up, and it just
is it just as you know, it's the way it goes.
It's like it's you know, it's a it's an action show,
and and all that stuff sort of happens. You're fighting people.
Joe is throwing me this way and that way. It is.
It's it's very physical and he does way more physical
stuff than I do. So but but yeah, no, it's
it's it's it's exhausting, but it's so much it's so
(35:20):
much fun to shoot.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Well, Mike, thank you so much for joining us, and
thank you for having me.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Yeah, come back anytime. It was great, it was a
great chat.
Speaker 5 (35:29):
I loved being here. Yeah, I hope people really liked
the last few episodes. There's a lot of surprises that
with my character specifically, so uh, I don't know if
you guys have been able to see it yet, but
but I'm excited for you guys to see it.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
I didn't want to ask you about the cliffhanger, but
we can.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
We're gonna be post toilot, So do you want to tease.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Anything that you want to that you want to tease
and talk about, please do.
Speaker 5 (35:54):
It would be very interesting to see what happens with
me in in season three because I'm now I there's
there's just a lot, there's a there's a there's a
lot that happens with the end of the tournament and
then what happens with my character, which is just say
I get sent somewhere to not spoil it for people,
and then and then uh, I come I come back
(36:15):
as a as a as a you know, with a
with a with I guess, as a new man. I
come back, and I'm like, I'm ready to like take
on the world, and uh and I'm excited, you know,
I'm excited to see I want to pair up with
with Joe again because I love working with Joe. But
I'm excited to see where they take Stu now that
he's he's a fighter. Now I think he's a fighter now.
(36:37):
That was my request of the showrunner. I was like,
can you make me?
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Make me an?
Speaker 5 (36:43):
I said, can you make me strong? And that's that's
what I said. I was like. He was like, he's like,
what do you want to do? He's like, what do
you want for season two? And I was like, make
Stu strong? And it was a joke and then he
did literally kind of do that at the end of.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Well, Mike, thanks again for your Thank.
Speaker 5 (37:00):
You so much for having me.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Guys.
Speaker 5 (37:02):
Yeah, this is a blast.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
That's it for this episode. On next week's episode of
X ray Vision, we're diving into the Foundation, Peacemaker and
more and more. That's it for news.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Thanks for listening.
Speaker 5 (37:14):
Bye.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
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In today's previously on episode, we are as always catching
up on the biggest ninety news of the week, including
Lucasfilm announced full very.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Very stacks maybe maybe two stacks, question Mark cost the
Star Wars star Fighter, which has officially gun shooting off
a Star Wars movie in a very long time.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
The Twilight saga Guys is gonna return to theaters in October,
so obviously we will be talking about that and more.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Let's go to it. First up, Star Wars Boom bomb
ba ba bomb bomb blab ba bom ba ba ba
ba ba. Because it's Star Wars Starfighter news. That's right.
Where's the where have the Star Wars movies been? Here's
your answer. It's in production. Casting information is hitting the
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streets and here we go.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
We know.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Directed by Sean Levy starring Get this Folks, Ryan Gosling,
We knew that, but that's pretty huge. Alongside Flynn Gray
Matt Smith.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
He is the villain the report we are we love
to hear it.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Uh Mia Goff, Aaron Pierre Love, Cylenberg, Jamael Westman, Danielings
and Aby Adams.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
And Amy Adams. I feel like that should have been
higher up there. I hate to put a heteronormative spin
on things, but would be nice if Ryan Gosling had
an age appropriate love interest in this movie like Amy Adams. Also,
I feel like anytime a redhead comes up, we all
have to say, is she gonna be Mara Jade? The
answer is no. It expanded universe fans, but I am
(02:21):
interested in this. It's gonna be allegedly from what we've
been seeing in general reports set around five years after
the episode nine, so after the sequel lay new era
we haven't seen before, allegedly again, and I'm intrigued. I
was hoping for something a little bit further out, but
(02:42):
five years, you know, let's take it. Also, wasn't expecting
to see Simon Bird from the in Between.
Speaker 6 (02:48):
Us fame in a Star Wars movie.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Sure he's great.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Yeah, I'm intrigued.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
It looks like it's gonna be a classic Sean Levy
kid adult team up. Fling Gray and Ryan Gosling were
pictured sitting on kind of an old school looking X wing.
So I think we're going to get another one of
these kind of like Mando style stories, which makes sense.
This will actually come out a year after it's gonna
come out May twenty twenty seven, and it will as
(03:18):
in the year twenty twenty seven, which is allegedly about
a year after the Mandalorian movie will come out next
year supposedly. So yeah, I'm intrigued, intriguing.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
I'm I'm kind of this is an incredible cast list.
It's a crazy cast. It's a crazy cast. I'm a
little I'm kind of more interested in who they don't
mention here, because you have to feel like, set five
years after the end of the sequel trilogy, that some
(03:48):
of our phaves from those stories simply must appear in
this well, especially.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
If they are still going to go forward with this
Ray kind of as a Jedi teacher, I was, I
was not sure that this was that close, but people
were able to find reporting that. I guess maybe at
celebration or someone they'd said, we're all we get the
description here in the trades that it is an all new,
standalone adventure fingers crossed, an entirely original story set in
(04:18):
a period of time never before exploreding Star Wars. So
technically five years after that would make sense.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
If you just yet a Daisy rid like.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Sure, five years, ten years like a Daisy Ridley makes sense.
I want more than anything for John Boyega to come back,
getzlick back, like, get that money from Disney.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Enjoy a good, meaty role.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
I don't know if it's gonna happen, but you know what,
I'm intrigued. I can't visualize Sean Levy's sense of humor
in the Star Wars universe. I think of it as
something far more contemporary, you know, but especially you know,
post de be Wolverine. But obviously that movie made a
billion dollars when a lot of those are making that,
(05:00):
so of course they go for him.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Let's see.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
I mean, I feel like we know so little about it.
But Ryan Gosling in a X Wing is great.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
I'll take it is great. Up next in semi embarrassing news,
The Twilight Sun, embarrassing for every oct Why other things? Money?
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Money?
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Tell me?
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Why?
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (05:22):
So I'm going to tell you why. This is part
of Lionsgate waking up to the fact that their buying
market are now adults with adult jobs. This has really
been a during the pandemic especially. There are a couple
of different meme accounts, the perfectly named Twilight Hoe and
Twilight Memes and stuff like that that basically kind of
(05:46):
almost started, like I would say, a kind of like
an ironic reclamation of the franchise, where a lot of
people who grew up with it were like, Yeah, I
still enjoy watching it, but let's talk about how it sucks.
It's kind of taken over. It's gone into that kind
of B movie cult space now. I mean the funny
thing about this is, guess what if you live in
LA they play in Twilight in the theater, you can
(06:09):
go plays them regularly because they are now those kind
of call them respects.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
You're the rocky horror of our zaar.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Yes, and I'm gonna say hilariously, a great great film critic,
Jenyamato had actually said like, oh, I hope that they
bring in like a shadow cast or something kind of
rocky horror show style. But what I will say is
I did the Twilight fifteenth anniversary screening at the Los
Fhlees three so very much in that la space of
(06:41):
you know, people who love these movies, but it was
an absolute riot. People showed up in costumes.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
I think that they usually.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Throughout history have released these every so often. Again, I
think Cinema did something like this, But this is essentially
a wide release and you can buy tickets now. It's
gonna be from October. I don't know if they're gonna
do marathons or if they'll be doing one a week,
which is what they did in the past. But the
fact that Lionsgate like made a new poster for it
(07:11):
makes me think that this is no longer like a
fan screening. This is probably gonna be a surprising money maker,
kind of in the vein of a Revenge of the Sith,
because there's also kids who have never seen them in
the movie theaters who now love them or who know
them through the memes. When I went when I did
the one in Los Philes at the American Cinematique, like,
people were cheering when Carlisle Cullen came on. They were
(07:36):
singing along. They were, oh, you know, and Carlile Cullen
comes on they're all cheering, like Thanos entered the stage,
So I think it's gonna be fun. This also does
seem like a reason for us to finally maybe delve
into this this mess of Twilight. But yeah, it's interesting.
I think a lot of people were hoping for a
(07:57):
different kind of announcement because the official Twilight account posted
you know, tomorrow, and.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
I think it was like forever begins. Now, let me
tell you something, that announcement of new Twilight stuff movie whatever.
M I I'm not going to guarantee you, but I
feel like it will happen off the off the momentum.
I agree, either it's in planning now or this will
(08:24):
seal the deal. The success of this will seal the deal.
As a look, here's a proof positive that there is
a tremendous momentum behind whatever the case may be. I
think we will get that news on the on the
back end of this.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
I think you're right. I think they wanted to come in.
They want it to make like ten million dollars or
fifteen million dollars, like I think Revenge of the SIF
ended up making around twenty and they want to say, look,
there's still an audience They had announced a while back
a Twilight animated series that was like going to be
an adult animated Twilight series that was going to adapt
Midnight Sun, but that was at Netflix, Netflix known for
(08:59):
counting animation. I think this is a push to get
them to make something new.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
And four years.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Pretty much every main anniversary year so far, like ten, fifteen, twenty,
Stephanie Meyer has released or announced something new, which is
always a cursed announcement. We got Midas, which revealed that
Edward is essentially like a psychotic school shooter in form,
absolutely cursed. But the one that's even more cursed that
(09:28):
everyone is super worried she's going to announce is the
long promised Jacob brynesme romance novel, which absolutely nobody needs.
So please Stephanie, do not do that. But I will
be going to see Twilight in theaters again.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Listen, this story in and of itself exists because of
various bad ideas promulgated by see So what's a few
more bad ideas more between friends time, Let's take a
quick break and we'll be right back. Yeah, and we're back.
(10:14):
A twenty four gets an AI investor. It's Legacy Studios
here's the announcement.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
This is part of a big New Yorker I Yeah,
they did about their version of autas and why they're different.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Here's a snippet from that New Yorker article quote Legacy
studios such as Sony have attempted to buy a stake
in A twenty four. Instead, the company has opted to
take Wall Street money, preferring not to be drawn into
what one executive called Hollywood's one hundred years of doing
things a certain way. So what actually kind of a
regime of Wall Street driven innovation going to mean? Well?
(10:55):
The article continues that one of the backers will be
Thrived Capital, which helped secure twenty four to three point
five billion dollar valuation and is also a major backer
of Open AI and A twenty four court of the
firm specifically to figure out how AI could help it
make movies. Whether that's making the process more efficient, whether
(11:18):
that's creating visual effects, story points. Who knows. The kind
of road is wide open, but certainly A twenty four
is looking at ways that AI can help it streamline
its business. Scott Belski, head of A twenty four Labs,
is spearheading this and ari Astra recently said two letterbocks quote.
(11:44):
If you talk to these engineers and the people ushering
this AI in, they don't talk about AI as this
great new medium. They talk about it as a god. Well,
I'll just say that, like we are certainly at the
point in the kind of AI narrative continue war people
are beginning to realize, oh shit, like this is a
powerful tool. But it's not that it's not like godlike.
(12:06):
And it certainly seems as though we're farther and farther
away if we were ever approaching a truly sentient computer
that is going to do all the things that it's
counted as being. And I would also say to Ari
Astor that the people who draw their paychecks from the
AI industry are probably going to be the most biased
(12:28):
people in terms of exactly what AI will be. So
we'll see. But this is this is interesting.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
It's interesting, and I think like it's funny because obviously,
really famously we had Daniel Kwan come out that one
of the co directors of everything over once and talking
about how it kind of like doesn't work alongside it.
So I think this is going to be as A
twenty four grows and tries to make those Michael Bay
level big blockbuster movies that they have said they wanted
(12:57):
to make. This was always going to be part of
the conversation and always going to be part of the
kind of the stress and intrigue and confusion of making
movies in this era. It will be interesting to see
what they mean because also, like, isn't everyone who's an
investor capital probably some kind of has some kind of
connection to AI right now, Like I feel like that's
(13:18):
where all the money is. So let's see with this one.
But yeah, I mean, when some of your biggest filmmakers
are saying they don't love it, it's probably gonna end
up getting messy. We'll see who makes the first AI
movie at A twenty four.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
I think that's because people are seeing now that is
it really powerful? Is it a powerful tool? Yes? Is
it all that it's been touted to be? No, just
look at the some of the very recent obvious AI
generated footage that is kind of like embarrassingly been revealed
(13:51):
on social media and elsewhere. Is AI footage? Okay, let's
go back to the UK slang corner because I was
so I have just become aware of the of the
of the UK phrase piss boil. This is like something
(14:12):
one of my soccer podcast Football Classics, Thank You. The
hosts were of the opinion that piss boil actually exists
online more than in real life. I have. I don't know,
you tell me piss boil. What is piss boil?
Speaker 3 (14:28):
So I would say, I would say it's more if
you're using it and use it in character, you'd be like,
I'm ari Asta and the idea that I have to
use AI on my movies really boils my piss, Like
it means like you're like so fucking pissed off that
like it's angry, it's boiling in your guts.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
It's boiling and boiling and the guts.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
The funny thing is this is, I would say, an
interesting crossroads of a traditional like organic, weird British slang,
which is like up North. For example, I heard people
say boil my piss. That boils my piss. She's really
boiling my piss. But I hadn't heard it for a
long time.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
But over the last couple.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Of years read it especially, I started to see it
popping up again, So I think it is. It is
definitely real British slang. I've heard people say it, but
it is now taking on more of an existence in
the cultural kind of you know, language, by being such
(15:31):
a funny slang that people have started to use online.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
It does certainly seem like there's a morphing of the
form going on because the the I have encountered this
particular slang as in this format like oh what a
what a piss boiler? Or that guy's such a piss
boil rather than this is.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Like I'm like, I'm like, maybe he is stressed, Like
if he's stressed, like or if you say, I could understand,
like that game was such a piss boiler, Like that
game really pissed everyone off. Like I get that maybe,
or maybe something along the lines of, like you know,
that guy, he's always fuck piss is always fucking boiling,
He's always fucking pissed off.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
But I don't know.
Speaker 6 (16:14):
The funniest thing of it, though, is like people hate
it online. That was one of the funniest things when
you brought up I'm like, there's like so many threads
on Reddit that I found where people.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Are like, this is like the most disgusting phrase I've
ever heard in my whole life. But yeah, this is
a this is an old one. You can find stuff
about it, like it's Urban Dictionary. It was included on
an Urban Dictionary in around two thousand and eight, so
that usually means that it was like a long, long
long before slang, and then when the Internet and Urban
Dictionary really came about, people wanted to put it on there.
(16:47):
But yeah, good job, Wayne, exactly the name that I
would have expected to put this on Urban Dictionary. And
guess what, thanks to Urban Dictionary, you can get a
boils my piss mug. Apparently that's just advertising that this
thing is actually so incredible. Well, thank you, we're all
(17:08):
getting them. But yeah, if you got any questions about slang,
ask me. UK explains that, Oh, UK slang Corner, I've
got the slang for you.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Let's seek a quick break and we'll be right back
with our interview with Twisted Metals Mike Mitchell. We're back
and we're delighted to be joined by Mike Mitchell. Mike
(17:39):
Mitchell is a writer, a producer, and actor. You may
know him for his hysterical and long running fast food
review podcast doll Boise, he co host with Nick Wiger,
or his work in the Tomorrow War, or his his
writing and parks and rec and other places. We're so
(18:00):
delighted to have Mike Mitchell with us. Mike, thanks for
joining the program.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Great, delightful to have you so happy with it.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
After that.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Set up, what you would just like, boom, I'm a
podcast that everything's great, easiest set out, incredible.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
We must discuss your turn as Stu the professional Lackey
professional Minion.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Yes, I would say he's like a kind kind killers.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Kind hearted killer who's like evolving a sense of morality. Yes,
how would you describe Stu.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
Professional Minion is a great way to put That's also
kind of how I describe myself in general as a
professional Minia. Yeah. I think he's like, you know, a
kind hearted guy who's trying to survive in a crazy
apocalypse and uh, he's managed to do it. You know,
he has a big heart and maybe not you know,
the biggest brain, but uh, but he's he's lovable and
(18:58):
I and in he's I think he's I think he's
so lovable that even you know, psychopaths are like, I'll
keep this guy around for a little bit.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
A very useful thing to have in the world of
Twisted Maw.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Character season one, Stu is spending a lot of time
with He's He's I'll say this, Stu has experienced multiple
different kind of leadership styles through Agent Stone and then
Everybody's like Murderer's Favorite Murders clown and star of multiple
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editions of the Twisted Mail video am Sweet Tooth, Sweet Tooth.
How would you describe the those leadership styles and and
what does to take away? What are the pros and
cons of either?
Speaker 5 (19:44):
I think that the leadership, you know, the Agent Stone
was a bit of a you know, a kind of
had a bit of a fascist that seemed he was
running some sort of police state. He was. He was
very strict, and Stu is Stu is a guy who
like doesn't want to see anyone get hurt. And he
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saw it with both. He saw it with both leaders
that he was with. You know, he just want to
hang with his buddy Mike, who's this uh Taj Bahms,
who's great, He's my bestie. And then the great Thomas
Hayden Church played Agent Stone, who I loved on and offset,
but he is you know, it's I guess it's kind
of like which direction of psychopath you want? To go with,
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and I think for for for Stu's Sweet Tooth is like,
you know, he's killing other psychos, and and Agent Stone
is kind of killing innocent people, and Stu is like,
I'm more with the psychopath who kills the bad people.
But he doesn't want any of it, you know what
I mean. He wants a way out. He he doesn't
he doesn't want to exist in that world at all.
But uh, in season two, he kind of is trying
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to become his own man and be like, can I
survive in the apocalypse and not be a murderous psychopath?
And it's kind of it's hard. It's it's a hard
thing to do. And you know, I'm never I've luckily
never had to live in a post apocalypse where you
have to kill.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Like, let's well get to ahead of ourselves.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
Yeah, I hope. I hope that my charm can pay off,
like Stu if we have some sort of apocalypse scenario.
But uh, but yeah no, uh, I think sweet Tooth
is more fun to be around. And sweet Tooth also
he sees the good and Stu he sees him as
a survivor, and and Agent Stone is you know, in
season one, Stu is very close to being thrown off
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the hoover dam as you know, he's he's he's going
to be killed at one point, and he just you know,
you have to be heartless with him and and with
sweet Tooth, you can still have heart and that's what's
that's all Stu is.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
So yeah, which is very fun. I think is really
a unique role to play. I was gonna say, like,
there's a lot of post apocalyptic stories, but there's not
a lot of characters like Stu. So what did you
do to prepare when you were going into this, Because
you can't really look for other characters like Stu, because
there's no kind of sweethearted guys who just survive by
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their charm. That's a pretty unique role.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
You know. I looked at some of the Twisted I
played Twisted Metal, you know, back in the day when
I was a kid, but I was a Nintendo kid,
so I was always playing Twisted Metal over people's houses
and stuff like that. So I played it, and you know,
it's like, you know, a twenty I mean, like a
thirty year old game at this point, so kind of
hard to play. But I was messing around with Mike
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and Stu and Twisted Metal two and I tried to
get as much. There's not much story there. Michael jonthan Smith,
there's not a different He's very much a bro. Like
at the end of If You Win, with Mike and Steu,
they they wished to fly and then they jump off
a building and then Sweet Tooth is I'm sorry, Calypso
has bought them plane tickets. That's the big twist with
(22:58):
Mike and Steu. And there's not my just besides that
they like like babes. That was kind of their uh
that was their whole thing, is like we love babes,
and so I was like, okay, all right, So you know,
Michael John this Smith did a great job and he
actually he wrote the role with me and mine which
is so which is so kind. Uh. And so there's
a lot of me in stew which is probably embarrassing
(23:20):
to admit, but uh, I think it is just uh,
but you know, playing off, playing off Samoa Joe who
is he he's he? And and TODs Bonds, who's an
awesome actor and I love playing with Taj and then
and then samo Joe is is is so great on
set and he's doing the voice and then Will Arnett,
you know, dubs over Joe. But Joe is on set
(23:42):
just giving a great performance and I'm I'm with him.
And it's just such a fun dynamic of a psycho
and kind of a dummy just playing along with each other.
And it's it's such a it's such a blast to
play for for two seasons. And I hope, I hope
we get to do more of it. I hope there.
I hope there's a third because because I've I've had
it's it's like the most fun I've ever had on
set and doing stuff that I never thought I would do.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Really, Oh man, I was That's what I was going
to ask you, because it's like, this is a Walt
wall action show with a cast that is kind of
like unbelievably stack tell us about how fun it is
to be on set.
Speaker 5 (24:19):
It's I mean, it's it's the best. I mean, first
of all the Captain America. Of course, it's crazy. Anthony Matthews,
he's the best. But Stephanie Beatrice is one of the
best people in the world. I love Stephanie. She's so funny,
and she's so great in the show and just such
a leader, and and and she's she's awesome and she
(24:39):
includes you in everything, and she's I can't say enough
kind things about her. And and then yeah, this year
we added so many funny people. Uh there was, I
mean there was the cast last year was great, and
and then this year we added like so many comedy pros,
and I was like, I gotta step my game up.
I'm not this funny. There's too many funny.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
You don't consider you don't consider yourself a comedy pro.
With this point, with a fage stretching back to Parks
and rec and other other widely beloved program.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
I think there's something inside of me. I don't know
if this is Stu like or my Irish catholicness or
something that I can't ever call myself a pro and anything.
I'm a comedy doer, I guess, or a comedy attempter.
I've I've been around. I've been around the game for
a while now. But then look this year, you got
(25:31):
Lisa Gilroy, you got Patty Guggenheim, and you got John o'
wilson and oh so she's so funny and so good.
Richard de Clerk there, like who plays grim Anthony Kerrigan?
Got I didn't even get to Karragan yet. There's so
many a lot of heavy hitters coming in. So I
was just, you know, I was I was excited to
be a part of the part of the party. I was.
(25:53):
I was happy to be there, you know what I mean.
And and uh, it was so fun playing off all
those people. I'm me and Taj and and John O
Wilson like specifically had so much fun together there. You know,
their best they Johno takes over the best bud role
for me with Taj for for Mike and Dame. And
it was just so fun playing jealous of like, well
(26:15):
what was going on with those two and my best
friend and stuff like that. So uh, and and and
Johno's hilarious. He's like he's he Dave. He just plays
He's so good at playing an asshole that still is likable,
Like he still is likable no matter what. But you're like,
I shouldn't like this guy. I shouldn't like him at all,
(26:37):
but he but he pulled it. But he pulls it off.
And like I think when they were casting it, they
were like, he's like the only guy that could deliver
these shitty lines and be this like annoying guy that
people still liked, so so I tip my cap to Johno.
He's he's fantastic again. And Lisa Gilroy just being like
an insane bug lady. She's like, uh as Vermin and
(27:00):
and yeah, Patty Gugenheim came in as Raven and killed it.
It's just every day was so fun. And I mean,
Karrigan's Calypso is just so good. Carrigan is is so
so so good. It's it's so fun to watch that
guy do his thing. He's he's fantastic. And I and
I I hadn't watched Barry and now I'm I'm I
started Barry.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
And oh wow, wow, what's that been like because that's
such a huge experience as a watcher.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
Yeah, it's I mean, it's it's been a blast so far.
And I and I and I and I love the guy,
you know what I mean. I became a I became
a fan on set and now I'm now I'm catching
up on everything he's done. So I'm gonna be all
nervous around him in season three if if.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
It happens, do you get to do you ever get
to mess around in the vehicles? Like how is the action?
I mean this is there is so much wild action
and violence in this in this very riginating television show,
and I'm just thinking, gosh, Mike actually get to get
in the bus.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
Yeah too much. I mean, like it is like it
it's terrifying. The so Sweet Tooth ice cream truck is
in the show. We drive around this big, crazy ice
cream truck that has like weapons on the wall, and
I so in the show, Sweet Tooth's best friend is
(28:17):
a paper bag because the show is insane, and he
sits and the paper bag is sitting in the front seat.
So I'm always standing in the back of this ice
cream truck, which is a mail truck that has has
been converted into this like death ice cream truck, and
it is it's a horrible vehicle. I mean, they do
(28:37):
such a great job. It looks great. It looks fantastic.
And I tip my cap to to everyone, every male
person in the United States of America and everywhere in
the world because this this the mail truck was when
we shot season one in New Orleans. It there's no
air conditioning, so there were and and it's not even
I guess it's like not even that old of a
(28:59):
mail truck, but just no air conditioning gets so so
hot it's like an oven immediately. And then I'm just
standing in the back there and they're whipping this thing
around and there's weapons on the and there's like rusty
weapons on the wall. It's it's crazy, and we were
just you know, they'd be like, all right, throw yourself
this way in that way. And then eventually Samoa Joe
who plays Sweet Tooth and I would be like, would
(29:19):
be like, can we like plug up like the some
of the weapons. We'd just be like bouncing into the weapons.
We went like the hooks on the wall. It was
it was insane. And you know, of course they're like
driving this truck at at fifty miles per hour and
stuff like that, like like it's shaking the truck like
you know what I mean. But the stunt people are
so good and so professional and you're safe the entire time.
(29:42):
But you know, there'd be a stunt guy who's just
wearing like a black hood to and he's driving in
the other seat. He's driving on the where the actual
the mail carriers drive and he's just you know, wearing
a black hood. You just see his eyes and then
he's like this one's gonna be fast and he goes
fifty miles per hour down a little alleyway is terrifying.
And then they had pod cars, which is you know,
(30:02):
when you were in when I wasn't in the mail truck,
you would be in a car and then there would
be a professional driver on top of your carsal they
were in charge of the brakes and the wheel and
everything like that. And it's like the scariest you know,
theme park ride. It's it's it's crazy. Those guys have
an all rehearsed and they're and they're all pros, you know.
And and uh, the person who's driving our car was
a former NASCAR driver and just so it's it's insane.
(30:26):
And after we do taste it, you have fun. And
I was like, no, crazy, this is terrible, terrifying. And
we did so much of it and I like all
of it is, which I love. All of it is real,
you know what I mean? Like, uh, you know, they
they shot so much stuff practically, which was so which
is so cool, you know, like uh and and uh,
(30:48):
you know, I think the fans of the game are
always like, we want like as much driving as we can.
We did it, and we did like a ton of it.
It's it's that sort of thing of like you can't like,
you know, I don't know if you can have a
show that's just entirely on wheels or whatever. But we
we shot so much car stuff, and uh yeah, just
it's it's terrifying. But it looks so cool. And and
those guys are such pros. And I hope that they,
(31:10):
you know, I hope they I hope they get acknowledged
for it, and I hope people see that in the
show and and and realize that there's like awesome stunt
people doing that stuff.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
It looks incredibly dangerous.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
It does that doesn't seem like.
Speaker 5 (31:23):
It really is, I mean. And also like things are
blowing up as you're driving, you know what I mean.
It's just is it is. It's it's just things. I
never thought that I would. I thought that I would
play like the lumpy boyfriend or husband or something and stuff,
you know what I mean, like a loser guy. But
I didn't think I played a loser in the Apocalypse.
So it's it's a blast. I mean, I love doing it.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Very long time, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (31:44):
Much longer than you think.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Stu shit, Yeah, like for sure, Well seeing as you know,
we might not be too far from the apocalypse ourselves. Well,
like the three things you've learned from Stu that you
would take into like a real world apocalypse.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
Man, I think the biggest one is just like personal
hygiene and we lot we I mean, the first thing
I learned is that there was just I'm done for
because there's like no air conditioning in apocalypse and I
just am I'm I'm too babied and pampered. I'm just
done for, you know what I mean. Like they don't
(32:20):
need they don't need podcasters in the in the post apocalypse,
post apocalyptic world, which I know, there's not even fast food.
So that's the other thing is like so I have
a fast food of review podcast, do boys? And I'm like, so,
you know there's I have no purpose in the post apocalypse,
(32:41):
but no a c. And then just every day, I
mean every day we would go to set, they are
like all right, and they just like time to like
dirt you up, and they just start covering you in
dirt and then putting dirt under your fingernails, you know
what I mean. And so like it was just and
it's just like you just felt covered in filth, every
day and then you just you just embrace it, you
know what I mean. And there's an episode where I
(33:03):
was running around in my underwear and then they were like,
let's go outside and they would just start throwing blood
at me at like you know, six am, and uh
and then you know, like I'm just in my trailer
in my underwear, sitting there covered in blood with my phone,
just being like I don't know what to do with myself.
I'm like, uh, you know, just so I think personal hygiene,
like it's just another reason I couldn't, like you know,
(33:25):
at the end of the day, I couldn't in the
post apocalypse, you can't take a shower. And luckily with
just a metal I I was, you know, they would
they would have me come into the trailer and they
would spray me down with a down powerwash. They would
just and then you you know, if you went out
to eat your your fingernails would be like just like
you know, like there would just be dirt under them
(33:46):
for throughout the entire week. So it was like, so,
you know, I like, I just all I learned is
that I can't I wouldn't be able to live in
the post apocalypse. So you know, it's good.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
To know for myself too. I mean I can't I
can't like for more than a minute, so I would
be deadening for me.
Speaker 5 (34:05):
We ran and I wore like big clunky boots, and
we would always be that was the thing with with
and Joe was a professional wrestler, and yeah, and I've
said this before, Joe, I'm a big guy, and it's
it was kind of fun to have a man there
who could just toss me around and like lift me up,
(34:26):
like made me feel like a child. It was I
was like like like I think like in takes where
like he would throw me. I probably had like a
little smile at first, and like, all right, cut, you
need to like be scared.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
And again looking serious.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
But but but Joe and I like halfway through season
one and then halfway through season two, we're like, hey,
we're in it again. Where this is like twisted metal,
where like we got to run or crawl on our
knees or be in our underwear and run around and
like it is it's a very physical show. And so
we were all at the end of the season like
we're all limping. Joe, like I think Joe broke something
(34:59):
like my knee got all messed up, and it just
is it just as you know, it's the way it goes.
It's like it's you know, it's a it's an action show,
and and all that stuff sort of happens. You're fighting people.
Joe is throwing me this way and that way. It is.
It's it's very physical and he does way more physical
stuff than I do. So but but yeah, no, it's
it's it's it's exhausting, but it's so much it's so
(35:20):
much fun to shoot.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Well, Mike, thank you so much for joining us, and
thank you for having me.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Yeah, come back anytime. It was great, it was a
great chat.
Speaker 5 (35:29):
I loved being here. Yeah, I hope people really liked
the last few episodes. There's a lot of surprises that
with my character specifically, so uh, I don't know if
you guys have been able to see it yet, but
but I'm excited for you guys to see it.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
I didn't want to ask you about the cliffhanger, but
we can.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
We're gonna be post toilot, So do you want to tease.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Anything that you want to that you want to tease
and talk about, please do.
Speaker 5 (35:54):
It would be very interesting to see what happens with
me in in season three because I'm now I there's
there's just a lot, there's a there's a there's a
lot that happens with the end of the tournament and
then what happens with my character, which is just say
I get sent somewhere to not spoil it for people,
and then and then uh, I come I come back
(36:15):
as a as a as a you know, with a
with a with I guess, as a new man. I
come back, and I'm like, I'm ready to like take
on the world, and uh and I'm excited, you know,
I'm excited to see I want to pair up with
with Joe again because I love working with Joe. But
I'm excited to see where they take Stu now that
he's he's a fighter. Now I think he's a fighter now.
(36:37):
That was my request of the showrunner. I was like,
can you make me?
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Make me an?
Speaker 5 (36:43):
I said, can you make me strong? And that's that's
what I said. I was like. He was like, he's like,
what do you want to do? He's like, what do
you want for season two? And I was like, make
Stu strong? And it was a joke and then he
did literally kind of do that at the end of.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Well, Mike, thanks again for your Thank.
Speaker 5 (37:00):
You so much for having me.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Guys.
Speaker 5 (37:02):
Yeah, this is a blast.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
That's it for this episode. On next week's episode of
X ray Vision, we're diving into the Foundation, Peacemaker and
more and more. That's it for news.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Thanks for listening.
Speaker 5 (37:14):
Bye.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
X ray Vision is hosted by Jason Sepsion and Rosie
Knight and is a production of iHeart Podcasts.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
Our executive producers are Joel Monique and Aaron Kaufman.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
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Speaker 3 (37:32):
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Speaker 1 (37:36):
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