August 15, 2025 • 33 mins
We love a small town corruption movie! Jason and Rosie dive deep into the action film Nobody 2, exploring its themes, character dynamics, and the evolution of action flicks. Then they wrap up by recommending action movies you should check out if you loved Nobody 2!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Warning today's episode Kittaine spoilers for Nobody to Nobody No.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Hello.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
My name is Jason Concepcion and I'm Urdy Night, and
welcome back to ext revision of the podcast Where Week.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
I've de be your favorite shows.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Movies, comics, and pop culture company for my our podcast
Where're bringing you episodes every Tuesday Thursday plus like today, we're.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Discussing the summer's biggest movies every Friday, plus days on Saturday.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
And in today's episode, we are going to be talking
about Nobody Too starring Bob Odenkirk. Don't we all love him.
We're gonna be talking about that. We're gonna talk about
some of our other favorite secret spies in the suburbs
type movies. And we're also gonna ask, like, what what
are actual movie's saying right now? Like what twenty twenty
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five action movies? We are they telling us about the world?
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Been living it?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Okay? Nobody Too?
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Nobody two is the sequel to the surprise hit Nobody Won,
which was released in twenty twenty one, starring God starring
I Know.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Feels like it well is not that long though I.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Know it does not feel that long ago.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
The first film was directed by Hardcore Harry's Ilia Nischuler
and written by John Wick Scribe Derek Coolstadt, starring Bob
Odenkirk and Nobody to picks up the baton from Nobody One,
still starring Bob Odenkirk, still written by Derek Colstad, but
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this time directed by Timo Chahanto, Indonesian action filmmaker. And
your thoughts, Rosie upon seeing Nobody Too.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Yes, I was, I was. I have controversial takes on
Nobody Else was really good. I think, I think it's
a brilliantly made movie, but also I found it to
be quite like it's quite like a just a kind
of a gritty like grinding like hardcore watch. And I
think that's why people liked it. I mean, you mentioned
(02:24):
ilias the director of Nobody Wants for like big breakout
movie Hardcore Henry, which was like such a moment if
you were there for it, which was this kind of
crazy POV action movie that began as a short that
I think was like one of those big kind of
if you were on the internet in the zeros and tens, that.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Was like a big thing that you were looking for.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
I really enjoyed Nobody Too because even though, and we'll
talk about this, it is essentially like the same beats.
I enjoyed the kind of you know, as we mentioned,
the Dead Island kind of lens that they put this through,
where it's like, I like the colorful shirts. I like
the he's just trying to have a good holiday and
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be a good dad. But you know, these people in
this small town Plumberville, this kind of American summer town,
are you know, nefarious and corrupt. I think there's been
some really good small town corruption movies this year with
Rebel Ridge obviously and other fantastic movie starring Future Green
Lanterns star Aaron Perre. That was very much we love
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a small town corruption movie, like, yeah, it's a it's
American tradition. And I think for me, what I really
loved was I'm a big Timo fan. I loved Timo's
Timo used to make a lot of horror movies with
another director they call the Mo Brothers. They made Maccab,
they made stuff like that. But then he really came
(03:50):
back onto my kind of radar in when he made
The Night Comes for Us, which is on Netflix. It's
a Indonesian action horror kind of boss too.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Many super violent, too many throats for me, I love
I love you.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
I was like, yeah, I get it.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
I listen.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
I love the action movies. I love violent movies. This
is a well made movie. It's just too many throats.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
The Night Comes for Us is one of the most
violent movies.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
It's one of the most like jugular cutting movies you will.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Ever see it.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
It's like The Raid if The Raid was.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Like a Gorse black and it stars, it stars Eco
Us and it stars Joe Taslim. And then Timo has
done some other great movies that you know he did.
He'd recently had a new action movie on Netflix. He
did the really fun horror movies, Made The Devil Take You,
(04:52):
Made The Devil Take You Too, which very Sam raimish.
So what I really liked about this one was I
felt like he was able to bring his kind of
cartoonish direction of violence to this. You get a lot
of like teeth that coming now and people again like
kicked in the head, and there's the boat fight, which
was really fun. So I like that timas kind of
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bring his more out their style. But I would say,
as well, definitely not like Night Comes for Us, is
that this is a completely fine.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
The boat fight was wonderful. It's like, listen, you can
almost Here's what's fun about these movies kind of for me,
both one and two and particularly too. You can just
look and be like, ah, the tooth coming out like
from Wanted exactly, the fight on the boat like Jackie
Chan's police story fight on the bus, but on a boat,
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and all these wonderful like little nods. You know, first
it's a first Blood set up.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
And I also.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Liked listen, the action is really fun and to your point,
it it veers at times into an almost Tom and
Jerry level.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, especially in this one, which I think
is really fun, like.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
You could shoot somebody, sure, but why not trigger a
home alone style trap the super Bowl with knives to
like come out.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Like kill did love the stuff, you know what, I
will say, I'm glad you brought that up, because I
do think one of the reasons that this movie really
spoke to me was like, basically, in case you you know,
really need it, it is the family go on a vacation.
It's just after you know, continuing on from the first
movie where I just kind of gotten rid of the
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people who causing problems in his family who raided his house.
Very classic death wish sty'll set up and now they're
going on vacation. They want everything to be normal, but
his son gets into it with a kid at an arcade,
and you unravel this kind of you know, chaotic corruption
under the small town. But I'm glad that you brought
it up because the final act of this movie is
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what I think I'm looking for in many movies, which.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Is like, why are more movies set in theme pos?
Like why are the action movies.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
And horror movies set in theme pox? Because I think
that is like an iconic setting for something fun. And
there's about three or four movies that have ever done it, well,
this being one of them.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Am I think that you know it's it has taken.
It took several decades, two and a half decades, almost
three three decades for the home alone finish to become
the part to become a trope. You know, maybe it
was SETI Fall that was really the high brow movie
that was like what if we just got home alone there?
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And you know this the entire climax of this film,
I'm just thinking, great, We're gonna get a home alone
in a Carnival good. And I think that now that
it's been this long and we've you know, we've started
the ball rolling with this, I agree with you. I
love a good like Booby Trap laden Finish a Home Alone.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
And I think we're gonna start to see more of
these now.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Fun.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
I think it's fun.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
And also we've you know, Rube Goldberg machines are ever
more popular whether you're in a Saw type situation. You know,
we're like fifteen twenty years out from the first Saw
movie now, so I feel like we can explore that.
I also think that there is something just decidedly thrilling.
It's the nature of going on a roller coaster, right
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is it looks dangerous, but it's not dangerous.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
So I think that seeing.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
A space like that that then becomes dangerous and has
all these kind of terrifying traps is very fun.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
There's only other like.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
I watched a movie a very long time ago, Spanish movie.
I believe it's called a Christmas Tale, and it's about
some kids who accidentally trap a bank robber who is
dressed as Santa in a pit, and because they're eleven
year olds, they get kind of obsessed with like keeping
the person in the pit, and it's really kind of
(09:01):
a creepy moralistic tale until at the end she just
escapes and chases them through a water park dressed the
Santa with an axe. And I always remember just being like, yes, also,
you know something that was kind of blowing my mind
when I was watching Nobody to which I'm interested to
see if we'll like translate for an average audience member.
I just feel like this is a very stacked movie castwise.
(09:24):
I feel like you not only do you have obviously
Bob Odenkirk Connie Nilson returning, but then you have like
Colin Hanks is the evil corruption against and goes like
really into it. You've got Christopher Lloyd. He's doing a
classic like crazy dad vibe.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
Here.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Who's who you've seen in things such as the Michael Man,
Miami Heat, Miami Vice. Excuse me, you've seen him in
Carlito's Way, You've seen him.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
In and that's a answer.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
And he it's fun and he gets a fun kind
of twist on this story too, like where you expect
him to be somewhere. Also, McKenna grace is in this movie.
Like they stacked it up. I think post nobody Wan
and I think we can see this with a lot
of the North, the eighty seven North, like David.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Lee type stuff.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Yeah, post John Wick.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
This stuff appeals to people they want to be in
the next one after Nobody. I think people watched it
and said, I want to be in whatever that is.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Yeah, I agree with you, And I think the appeal
is something like this, Hey, Sharon Stone, it's a cool
whatever her price is like a couple of million, We
shoot you out in five days. You're in and out
in five days. You don't have to sit on like
in Vancouver or wherever for a month. And it's and
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you can basically just be crazy and do what you want.
I think that's the appeal, which is and is a
grand appeal. Like Christopher Lloyd. When I saw Christopher Lloyd
in the first one, I was like, wait a second,
Christopher Lloyd is eighty.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Two yep, wow, this yeah is having a sun.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
The casting for these is spectacular. I think part of
it is the fact that they can probably pay a
good a good salary because and it's everything else is
clearly done the cheapest, high quality way you can do it.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Yeah, which, honestly, this is now going to become I think,
you know, I was on a skate patch yesterday talking
about gong Girl, and we were kind of talking about
the loss of the mid range, mid budget movie that could.
For example, Gongirl costs like sixty million dollars, but it
made three hundred and seventy million dollars, which now would
be a kind of good EMCU take in twenty twenty five,
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and this, I think is the new version of that.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
Way the budget for this movie.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Twenty five, Yeah, the new it's like, this is twenty
five million dollars. It's a twenty five million dollar budget.
But if this opens, you know to ten, fifteen, twenty,
it's gonna do great. But the first one made a
ton of money.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
For Universe, I'm.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Like, called fifteen million. Die.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
I forget the budget on it was what it was,
but it was they made like sixty million on a
less than twenty million dollar budget or something.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
I think as well, like because of the way that
streaming has changed how people watch stuff in America obviously,
and I always talk about this.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
I think it's great. It's one of the things I
really think is.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
A great choice culturally, is like I think the R
rating is a really powerful choice here because you can
take a kid to an R rated movie if you
are their guardian or you were an adult, and I
think it opens up what people can and can't see,
whereas in England you have to have like your passport
to go and see an eighteen rated movie, Like they're
really really hardcore about it. And I think so there
(12:47):
was always a culture of people of all different ages
going to see movies here. Last night I went to
see Weapons again and there was an eight year old
in there and you know what, that kids slaunched it out,
so good for the parents. But like, something I think
about movies like this now is in a post streaming
world where every kid has watched a YouTube video about
(13:09):
all the worst deaths in john Wick or all the
craziest times that Freddie versus Jason killed each other, I
think a kid can like this could be a movie
where there is a wider quadrant than you would expect
who is going to go and want to see.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
And I think to your point, there is clearly a
space for people love the john Wick style setup. A
man has been aggrieved in some way by the powers
that be and he gets revenge, and I think there's clearly,
as the success of Nobody Won has shown, there's clearly
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a space for that setup. But just like less crazy,
less gritty than John Wick.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
They did it like.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
More fun and slightly more comedic and lower the death count,
Like a lot of people get beat up, but only
a few people die now, and if they.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Do, they die in like a crazily comedic way, like
an anchor is going through the head. So you're kind
of like, isn't that like an episode of Paulpie right?
Speaker 2 (14:08):
And so I think that there is. I think there's
clearly a space for that.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
And I think part of it is, like, what's interesting
to me about watching this movie was like, how clearly
what resonates is, uh, you like this movie because the
world is fucked it is. You feel like it is corrupt.
You feel like the skills you would need to fight
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back against it are like impossible. You would have to
be I'd have to be like a retired government assassin
or something exactly to figure out how to do it.
And so this the wish fulfillment in this movie is
quite clear. It's like, here's a guy just wants to
live a normal life like everybody else wants to live
a normal life, only he's the one they shouldn't have
fucked with. And again it's so simple and yet extremely satisfying.
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And there's nothing we were talking about this pre mic
plot wise characterized. There's nothing that's a surprise in this
movie or nobody won, like you know, nobody won. The
the the guys walk onto the bus and you understand.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Do you understand that he's about yeah, good app But
then it becomes how do you show that?
Speaker 1 (15:18):
And I think what acts? The real surprise is that
it's Bob Odenkirk. Here's the guy from Mister Show and
from you know better call Sauw who good actor, good
dramatic actor, more more known for his comedic work. Who
nobody was thinking, oh action star.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
And that to me is.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Like, it's an interesting twist on it because you're it's like,
give us the genre stuff that is tried and true,
like literally a genre, the the middle aged aggrieved man
is a genre that is so yes. But this twist
is what if we cast it really interestingly like what
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you know?
Speaker 3 (16:04):
And I think that exactly. I think that is what
David Leitch and Chad Steleski have been doing since the
first John Wick movie. Because even that movie, having Keanu
Reeves as that character was like a meta textual commentary
and understanding of what he did well but that he
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had always been critiqued for, which is like this almost
Hong Kong inspired style of acting that's really about action
and movement instead of you know, emotions and everything.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
In the most normal way.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
But the other thing that John Wick did that I
think is really great and for me is why this
era of Nobody and John Wick is a great subversion
and kind of elevation of the traditional revenge movie is
if you look back at something like Charles Bronson, who
I have to say, I grew up loving B movies
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and exploitations, so I used to watch those movies a lot.
But like Death Wish, for example, all those movies begin
with like a horrific assault on a woman, and I
think that for a long time, the idea of these
movies was like a man has to rectify something bad
that was done to his property aka his house, or
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his wife or his children. And there's like five Death
Wish movies because of that and about that. So I
think what I really love about Nobody one established more
of this idea of like what if somebody invades your
home and the sanctity of your home and the safety
of your home that you built, rather than like what
if they sexually assault your teenage daughter? Like And I
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think that with john Wick, one of the reasons that movie.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
Had such a killing reach what if they kill your dog?
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Like what if it's something that you can imagine being
the thing that breaks you, But it doesn't have to
begin in that like truly exploitative place. And I think
that's why these are so fun for me. And I
think as well, like you know, this movie especially builds
on what we've seen and nobody won by kind of
establishing this almost franchised mindset of like, well, their son
(18:08):
clearly has aggression issues, but if he uses them in
the right way, he too can be a cool assassin
who beats up corrupt people. And you get Connie Nielsen,
who is suddenly.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Like they're like, by the way, by the way, I
thought she was just a normal successful wife, She's a sniper.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
She's also a successful sniper.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
And I think, like there's I like to see the
ways that they try and build these worlds out when
they make movies like this. I think that's one of
the most fun things about John The law is how
you expand the world, and the law, the John Wick
law is insane.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
I mean the law of nobody too is only not
insane because we don't know that much about it yet.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
I will say that the more I.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Learn and you learn more about nobody too, for instance,
you learn that, uh, it's Hutch and the resist dad
was like involved in this town for was like.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Bringing a holiday, but really it was some kind of.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Mission right because uh, you know, drugs and counterfeit goods
and chemical precursors for drugs and things are coming back
from Canada into this small town and Hutch's dad and
his dad was involved in this. And there's also the
thing of I forget the name of the character who
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in one and two Hutch calls on the phone and is.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Like his content is like, oh, it's his governments, contact government,
his government handler who is in this for like a minute,
but it's.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Has the Michael Michael Well it was Michael Ironside in
the right in the first one. But you know who
is it? No, it's the I'm talking about the British
guy who's like in the barbershop and he's just.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
This you've got in trouble this time you missed.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
You're gonna have to keep your head down on this one,
Old boy.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
A right, John Wick, and Sir John, I think that's
one of my one of my things that I really
enjoy about this era of like crazy action movies.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
It's basically just that we're.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
In a time where people are allowed to have a
lot more fun with it and there is more of
a kind of wild style approach. Whether it's The Kingsman
or whether it's John Wick or whether it's nobody, We're
getting these different versions of what an action movie can be.
And I do think that historically there's a good action
comedy tradition in America, So I feel like these fit in.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
And I think that there is the other influence that
I'd like to call out on this movie specifically, and
they want is the is the genre of YouTube video
that's like Bully gets his due, Bully picks.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
On the wrong guy. Yeah, And I mean that is
the power of both of these movies.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Every single absolutely set pieces like Bully picks on the
wrong guy, you did it, you did the wrong thing
this time, like when the when the carnival guy smacks
the back of Hutch's daughter's head and you just know, Okay.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
You're just like what and also like that's such a
stupid just like take one step back, bro like, don't
don't hit an eleven.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Year old girl. But I am excited for the inevitable addition.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
And Nobody three of like the girl becoming really cool.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Oh no, that's gonna get it. That's definitely gonna hand
it off to the family.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
You go to hand it off to the family. Nobody three.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
It's called like family vacation and like it's like a
National Lampoon movie and they just go to a different place.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Take a quick break, and then we'll do some opening
box office predictions. We'll talk about your favorite uh you know,
middle aged man, aggrieved movies, retired hit man movies, and
we'll be right back after this. And we're back, okay,
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box office predictions. Your box office prediction on a budget
of twenty five million dollars, Nobody to kind of a
good weekend to be opening.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
I think right now it's a good weekend.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
To be opening. I do think that.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
What's going to happen that I think is interesting about
Nobody is it ended up the first one ended up
in a very interesting situation.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Which was that it was relatively popular.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
It made twenty seven million dollars domestically fifty seven million dollars.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
Globally, but it was very popular on video and demand.
It was old school.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
I think, and I think that this is probably I
think that it's not realistically going to be able to
knock Weapons off number one because Weapons way overperformed. It
overperformed to the point of like making like thirteen million
dollars more than they.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
Thought it was going to make.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
This is going to be single digit millions open.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
I think this could be I think I think opening
weekends nine.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
I think it could go eight to ten.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
I think that it does have a crossover with the
weapons audience, which I do think is always, you know,
you don't always want to be battling up against that.
But I think that people who maybe have already seen weapons,
or who don't necessarily want to go and see something
that's really scary and instead want to just go and
see something that's kind of like late summer fun I
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think it's got potential, and I do think it's opening
in thirty two hundred thirty two hundred years, so it
could over index and overform I went to see Weapons
last night for the third time, and it was like,
as I mentioned, there was an eight year old in there,
but also it was jam packed and it was discount Tuesday,
so that does happen. But it was like so loud
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that I could just constantly hear people eating popcorn like
it was so it was so packed that you just couldn't.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
I don't in a movie will do that.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
I don't think it's got that kind of leg but
I do think it could.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
People are excited to be at the movie there they
see so it could be a bit more.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
I do see it going to VOD definitely.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Yeah, Yeah, And I think as well, like for all
we know, we'll see what kind of see what kind
of kind of situation they're in, because also that you
could do VOD, but they could also make a ton
of money if they sell this to a different streaming
site as it's place.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Okay, So, Jason, Rosie, if you like.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
It, yes, if you like nobody what Rosie retired hit
Person Slash you Fucked.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
With the Wrong Person movie?
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Okay, I recommend, And what it's a home alone movie,
would you recommend?
Speaker 4 (24:50):
Okay? So let me look.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Okay, So in my current I have currently fully committed
to always changing my letter box top four, which I
know people I'm not.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
They don't love that, but you know what, I can't
help it, Guys.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
I love, I agree, I agree, So I'm a changer,
I'm But what I do now is I specify. So
after I saw Nobody, I put a selection of some
of my favorite super violent dad slash wronged dad movies.
This one of the ones that I'm going to recommend,
is gonna come out soon on four K. It's been
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very hard to find up until now. They're actually doing
a screening of it in La coming up soon with
the star James Brolin. Still looking great by the way, Guys,
he's like in his eighties. Still still looking great. Love
James Brolin, And he is in this movie called Night
of the Juggler where his daughter is kidnapped by a
creep in like eighties Harlem, seventies eighties Harlem, which is
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completely broken down, and the movie is really grimy, really
grow grubby like definitely has creepy overtones, but it is
also essentially an eighty minute long chase through New York
on multiple different public transport metro bus, feet, car, it's
one of the best. I think it's such an underrated
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classic exploitation movie and they're doing a four K re release,
so I think that is very much one of the
early and most interesting kind of death Wish spin offs.
So definitely that one. I would say one of my
other kind of that's kind of a cheat one. One
of the ones I have listed here is Trained to
Busan because it's violent and there's a dad, but I
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don't think that really counts.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
But it's a good horror movie. Guys.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
I am a fan, of course of Park Chamwick's Old Boy.
I think that is a very good aggrieved man movie
that also influenced many of these films. So those would
be two of my top ones. Jason, how about you.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
I'm gonna go with Eastern Promises two thousand and five.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Ooh, one of the best sorry history, by history of it.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
I'm gonna go with two thousand and five is a
history of violence David Crohn, based on a comic book
based on a graphic novel. David Cronenberg's adaptation of the
graphic novel of the same name about a kitman who
retires from the Chicago mob to go work at a.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Diner and has a nice family.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
It's good one day things his world's intersect and he's
gotta be violent again. It's a great one, and honestly
it's oh, excuse me, Philadelphia Mob.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
It's a great one. And it's honestly beat for beat.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
You could put it over Nobody won, and it's kind of,
oh yeah, all of these movies follow that's the same.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Thing that is fun is like there are it is
the same beats. But there's something that is so appealing
about watching somebody go out of their way and the
underdog story.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
You know, I do think that.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
I do still think John Wick is just we mentioned
it a bunch of times, but it is just up there.
I just think, Oh, you know which other one I love?
Which is one of the craziest's absolute classic Tony Scott
classic Man on Fire starring Denzel that's not the craziest movies.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
A Kitchen and Ac did hit Man.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
But he wouldn't necessarily have gone so hard if they
hadn't stolen his young white charge.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
The code of Fanning, who.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Is deeply close to who has seen through his hardened ways,
and I'll never.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
Forget like some of the depths in that movie.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
It looks like a really prestigious American action movie, and
it is, but like they are like blowing people up
with like fireworks in their butt, like he's doing crazy
things in there that put it up there, I think,
with some of the best of these kind of movies.
And then finally for a home alone, meaning a climax,
a trap, yes, trap Leyden climax.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
I mean, there's a lot to pick on here. You
could say, Hobbs and Shaw, you could say, I think
to some of the Equalizer films, do.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
This any Saw films or skuy fal Saw.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Is basically I'm gonna go slight Twist. I'm gonna go
Return of the Jedi.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
Okay, love this.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Those motherfucking e Wills, how they won the wall, you know,
setting those traps with the logs and the rocks and
all that stuff. Don't count what they've done for the cause.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Don't discount it because that's how they want. Okay, I'm
gonna tell you guys, this is this is the movie
that you should all go and watch. I believe it's
probably still streaming somewhere like Chewby maybe now maybe shudder.
This is the big controversial nineteen eighty nine French movie
called Deadly Games, which I only found out about because
of Shudder. It was also called Dial Code, Santa Claus,
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Game Over, Hide and Freak. It's basically a kid at
Christmas in France whose house is broken into ala Home Alone.
It's very much a Home Alone influence Anna, and but
he goes like Ham. He's like a child prodigy who
starts making like inventions and blowing things up, and it's
really really good, scary, creepy stuff. It's it's definitely what
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they were trying to do with Home Alone. But they
were like, you know, Americans and Christmas. And that's why
I think Macaulay Culkin gives one of the old time
like unintentionally creepy performances in Home Alone.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
I mean, Nobody to five stars out of five star
rating system, What do you give it, Rosie?
Speaker 3 (30:26):
I think Nobody Too is a decidedly solid like a
you're looking at. I would have said, you know, I'm
trying to think about other movies I've rated this year.
I rated Jurassic Park Rebirth, which was like a fine
kind of streamlined movie that was like a three and
a half for me. So I think I got to
give Nobody two more of like A four, because I
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do think the invention of that. I think the action
is really inventive. I think the cost is funny. I
think that it's enjoyable, well shot movie. It's eighty nine
minutes long. That's so I'm like, if you just me
like a leaning me in it mean crazy action fun
settings because of the notion of the theme park. I
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will also say I do think from the outset of
the John Wick franchise, these guys have made interesting and
thoughtful choices about who their bad guys are, so it
doesn't always kind of fall into that more like very
nefarious kind of death wish peppermint like weird crime racism
kind of mindset. So I think this movie also follows
along with that. And yeah, I mean, if you just
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want to see some people get killed on a water slide,
then enjoying Nobody too.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Yeah, I'm gonna give it a I'm gonna give a
solid three and a half fat great action movie. There's
nothing in here that's new or super surprising, but it's
a it's a very entertaining, enjoyable time that again, at
eighty nine minutes, really respects your time. When I got
home from the movie. Christine was like, you're home already.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
I'm like, yeah, lead a mean movie.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Literally, you're like, no, two hour and forty long min here,
Like no, I can just enjoy this. Also, it is
really funny that the movie is written by the same
guy and it's basically just all the same beats.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
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And in today's episode, we are going to be talking
about Nobody Too starring Bob Odenkirk. Don't we all love him.
We're gonna be talking about that. We're gonna talk about
some of our other favorite secret spies in the suburbs
type movies. And we're also gonna ask, like, what what
are actual movie's saying right now? Like what twenty twenty
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five action movies? We are they telling us about the world?
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Been living it?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Okay? Nobody Too?
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Nobody two is the sequel to the surprise hit Nobody Won,
which was released in twenty twenty one, starring God starring
I Know.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Feels like it well is not that long though I.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Know it does not feel that long ago.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
The first film was directed by Hardcore Harry's Ilia Nischuler
and written by John Wick Scribe Derek Coolstadt, starring Bob
Odenkirk and Nobody to picks up the baton from Nobody One,
still starring Bob Odenkirk, still written by Derek Colstad, but
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this time directed by Timo Chahanto, Indonesian action filmmaker. And
your thoughts, Rosie upon seeing Nobody Too.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Yes, I was, I was. I have controversial takes on
Nobody Else was really good. I think, I think it's
a brilliantly made movie, but also I found it to
be quite like it's quite like a just a kind
of a gritty like grinding like hardcore watch. And I
think that's why people liked it. I mean, you mentioned
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ilias the director of Nobody Wants for like big breakout
movie Hardcore Henry, which was like such a moment if
you were there for it, which was this kind of
crazy POV action movie that began as a short that
I think was like one of those big kind of
if you were on the internet in the zeros and tens, that.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Was like a big thing that you were looking for.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
I really enjoyed Nobody Too because even though, and we'll
talk about this, it is essentially like the same beats.
I enjoyed the kind of you know, as we mentioned,
the Dead Island kind of lens that they put this through,
where it's like, I like the colorful shirts. I like
the he's just trying to have a good holiday and
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be a good dad. But you know, these people in
this small town Plumberville, this kind of American summer town,
are you know, nefarious and corrupt. I think there's been
some really good small town corruption movies this year with
Rebel Ridge obviously and other fantastic movie starring Future Green
Lanterns star Aaron Perre. That was very much we love
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a small town corruption movie, like, yeah, it's a it's
American tradition. And I think for me, what I really
loved was I'm a big Timo fan. I loved Timo's
Timo used to make a lot of horror movies with
another director they call the Mo Brothers. They made Maccab,
they made stuff like that. But then he really came
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back onto my kind of radar in when he made
The Night Comes for Us, which is on Netflix. It's
a Indonesian action horror kind of boss too.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Many super violent, too many throats for me, I love
I love you.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
I was like, yeah, I get it.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
I listen.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
I love the action movies. I love violent movies. This
is a well made movie. It's just too many throats.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
The Night Comes for Us is one of the most
violent movies.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
It's one of the most like jugular cutting movies you will.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Ever see it.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
It's like The Raid if The Raid was.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Like a Gorse black and it stars, it stars Eco
Us and it stars Joe Taslim. And then Timo has
done some other great movies that you know he did.
He'd recently had a new action movie on Netflix. He
did the really fun horror movies, Made The Devil Take You,
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Made The Devil Take You Too, which very Sam raimish.
So what I really liked about this one was I
felt like he was able to bring his kind of
cartoonish direction of violence to this. You get a lot
of like teeth that coming now and people again like
kicked in the head, and there's the boat fight, which
was really fun. So I like that timas kind of
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bring his more out their style. But I would say,
as well, definitely not like Night Comes for Us, is
that this is a completely fine.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
The boat fight was wonderful. It's like, listen, you can
almost Here's what's fun about these movies kind of for me,
both one and two and particularly too. You can just
look and be like, ah, the tooth coming out like
from Wanted exactly, the fight on the boat like Jackie
Chan's police story fight on the bus, but on a boat,
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and all these wonderful like little nods. You know, first
it's a first Blood set up.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
And I also.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Liked listen, the action is really fun and to your point,
it it veers at times into an almost Tom and
Jerry level.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, especially in this one, which I think
is really fun, like.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
You could shoot somebody, sure, but why not trigger a
home alone style trap the super Bowl with knives to
like come out.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Like kill did love the stuff, you know what, I
will say, I'm glad you brought that up, because I
do think one of the reasons that this movie really
spoke to me was like, basically, in case you you know,
really need it, it is the family go on a vacation.
It's just after you know, continuing on from the first
movie where I just kind of gotten rid of the
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people who causing problems in his family who raided his house.
Very classic death wish sty'll set up and now they're
going on vacation. They want everything to be normal, but
his son gets into it with a kid at an arcade,
and you unravel this kind of you know, chaotic corruption
under the small town. But I'm glad that you brought
it up because the final act of this movie is
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what I think I'm looking for in many movies, which.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Is like, why are more movies set in theme pos?
Like why are the action movies.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
And horror movies set in theme pox? Because I think
that is like an iconic setting for something fun. And
there's about three or four movies that have ever done it, well,
this being one of them.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Am I think that you know it's it has taken.
It took several decades, two and a half decades, almost
three three decades for the home alone finish to become
the part to become a trope. You know, maybe it
was SETI Fall that was really the high brow movie
that was like what if we just got home alone there?
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And you know this the entire climax of this film,
I'm just thinking, great, We're gonna get a home alone
in a Carnival good. And I think that now that
it's been this long and we've you know, we've started
the ball rolling with this, I agree with you. I
love a good like Booby Trap laden Finish a Home Alone.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
And I think we're gonna start to see more of
these now.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Fun.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
I think it's fun.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
And also we've you know, Rube Goldberg machines are ever
more popular whether you're in a Saw type situation. You know,
we're like fifteen twenty years out from the first Saw
movie now, so I feel like we can explore that.
I also think that there is something just decidedly thrilling.
It's the nature of going on a roller coaster, right
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is it looks dangerous, but it's not dangerous.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
So I think that seeing.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
A space like that that then becomes dangerous and has
all these kind of terrifying traps is very fun.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
There's only other like.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
I watched a movie a very long time ago, Spanish movie.
I believe it's called a Christmas Tale, and it's about
some kids who accidentally trap a bank robber who is
dressed as Santa in a pit, and because they're eleven
year olds, they get kind of obsessed with like keeping
the person in the pit, and it's really kind of
(09:01):
a creepy moralistic tale until at the end she just
escapes and chases them through a water park dressed the
Santa with an axe. And I always remember just being like, yes, also,
you know something that was kind of blowing my mind
when I was watching Nobody to which I'm interested to
see if we'll like translate for an average audience member.
I just feel like this is a very stacked movie castwise.
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I feel like you not only do you have obviously
Bob Odenkirk Connie Nilson returning, but then you have like
Colin Hanks is the evil corruption against and goes like
really into it. You've got Christopher Lloyd. He's doing a
classic like crazy dad vibe.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
Here.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Who's who you've seen in things such as the Michael Man,
Miami Heat, Miami Vice. Excuse me, you've seen him in
Carlito's Way, You've seen him.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
In and that's a answer.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
And he it's fun and he gets a fun kind
of twist on this story too, like where you expect
him to be somewhere. Also, McKenna grace is in this movie.
Like they stacked it up. I think post nobody Wan
and I think we can see this with a lot
of the North, the eighty seven North, like David.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Lee type stuff.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Yeah, post John Wick.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
This stuff appeals to people they want to be in
the next one after Nobody. I think people watched it
and said, I want to be in whatever that is.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Yeah, I agree with you, And I think the appeal
is something like this, Hey, Sharon Stone, it's a cool
whatever her price is like a couple of million, We
shoot you out in five days. You're in and out
in five days. You don't have to sit on like
in Vancouver or wherever for a month. And it's and
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you can basically just be crazy and do what you want.
I think that's the appeal, which is and is a
grand appeal. Like Christopher Lloyd. When I saw Christopher Lloyd
in the first one, I was like, wait a second,
Christopher Lloyd is eighty.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Two yep, wow, this yeah is having a sun.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
The casting for these is spectacular. I think part of
it is the fact that they can probably pay a
good a good salary because and it's everything else is
clearly done the cheapest, high quality way you can do it.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Yeah, which, honestly, this is now going to become I think,
you know, I was on a skate patch yesterday talking
about gong Girl, and we were kind of talking about
the loss of the mid range, mid budget movie that could.
For example, Gongirl costs like sixty million dollars, but it
made three hundred and seventy million dollars, which now would
be a kind of good EMCU take in twenty twenty five,
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and this, I think is the new version of that.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
Way the budget for this movie.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Twenty five, Yeah, the new it's like, this is twenty
five million dollars. It's a twenty five million dollar budget.
But if this opens, you know to ten, fifteen, twenty,
it's gonna do great. But the first one made a
ton of money.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
For Universe, I'm.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Like, called fifteen million. Die.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
I forget the budget on it was what it was,
but it was they made like sixty million on a
less than twenty million dollar budget or something.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
I think as well, like because of the way that
streaming has changed how people watch stuff in America obviously,
and I always talk about this.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
I think it's great. It's one of the things I
really think is.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
A great choice culturally, is like I think the R
rating is a really powerful choice here because you can
take a kid to an R rated movie if you
are their guardian or you were an adult, and I
think it opens up what people can and can't see,
whereas in England you have to have like your passport
to go and see an eighteen rated movie, Like they're
really really hardcore about it. And I think so there
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was always a culture of people of all different ages
going to see movies here. Last night I went to
see Weapons again and there was an eight year old
in there and you know what, that kids slaunched it out,
so good for the parents. But like, something I think
about movies like this now is in a post streaming
world where every kid has watched a YouTube video about
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all the worst deaths in john Wick or all the
craziest times that Freddie versus Jason killed each other, I
think a kid can like this could be a movie
where there is a wider quadrant than you would expect
who is going to go and want to see.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
And I think to your point, there is clearly a
space for people love the john Wick style setup. A
man has been aggrieved in some way by the powers
that be and he gets revenge, and I think there's clearly,
as the success of Nobody Won has shown, there's clearly
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a space for that setup. But just like less crazy,
less gritty than John Wick.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
They did it like.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
More fun and slightly more comedic and lower the death count,
Like a lot of people get beat up, but only
a few people die now, and if they.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Do, they die in like a crazily comedic way, like
an anchor is going through the head. So you're kind
of like, isn't that like an episode of Paulpie right?
Speaker 2 (14:08):
And so I think that there is. I think there's
clearly a space for that.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
And I think part of it is, like, what's interesting
to me about watching this movie was like, how clearly
what resonates is, uh, you like this movie because the
world is fucked it is. You feel like it is corrupt.
You feel like the skills you would need to fight
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back against it are like impossible. You would have to
be I'd have to be like a retired government assassin
or something exactly to figure out how to do it.
And so this the wish fulfillment in this movie is
quite clear. It's like, here's a guy just wants to
live a normal life like everybody else wants to live
a normal life, only he's the one they shouldn't have
fucked with. And again it's so simple and yet extremely satisfying.
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And there's nothing we were talking about this pre mic
plot wise characterized. There's nothing that's a surprise in this
movie or nobody won, like you know, nobody won. The
the the guys walk onto the bus and you understand.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Do you understand that he's about yeah, good app But
then it becomes how do you show that?
Speaker 1 (15:18):
And I think what acts? The real surprise is that
it's Bob Odenkirk. Here's the guy from Mister Show and
from you know better call Sauw who good actor, good
dramatic actor, more more known for his comedic work. Who
nobody was thinking, oh action star.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
And that to me is.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Like, it's an interesting twist on it because you're it's like,
give us the genre stuff that is tried and true,
like literally a genre, the the middle aged aggrieved man
is a genre that is so yes. But this twist
is what if we cast it really interestingly like what
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you know?
Speaker 3 (16:04):
And I think that exactly. I think that is what
David Leitch and Chad Steleski have been doing since the
first John Wick movie. Because even that movie, having Keanu
Reeves as that character was like a meta textual commentary
and understanding of what he did well but that he
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had always been critiqued for, which is like this almost
Hong Kong inspired style of acting that's really about action
and movement instead of you know, emotions and everything.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
In the most normal way.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
But the other thing that John Wick did that I
think is really great and for me is why this
era of Nobody and John Wick is a great subversion
and kind of elevation of the traditional revenge movie is
if you look back at something like Charles Bronson, who
I have to say, I grew up loving B movies
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and exploitations, so I used to watch those movies a lot.
But like Death Wish, for example, all those movies begin
with like a horrific assault on a woman, and I
think that for a long time, the idea of these
movies was like a man has to rectify something bad
that was done to his property aka his house, or
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his wife or his children. And there's like five Death
Wish movies because of that and about that. So I
think what I really love about Nobody one established more
of this idea of like what if somebody invades your
home and the sanctity of your home and the safety
of your home that you built, rather than like what
if they sexually assault your teenage daughter? Like And I
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think that with john Wick, one of the reasons that movie.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
Had such a killing reach what if they kill your dog?
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Like what if it's something that you can imagine being
the thing that breaks you, But it doesn't have to
begin in that like truly exploitative place. And I think
that's why these are so fun for me. And I
think as well, like you know, this movie especially builds
on what we've seen and nobody won by kind of
establishing this almost franchised mindset of like, well, their son
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clearly has aggression issues, but if he uses them in
the right way, he too can be a cool assassin
who beats up corrupt people. And you get Connie Nielsen,
who is suddenly.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Like they're like, by the way, by the way, I
thought she was just a normal successful wife, She's a sniper.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
She's also a successful sniper.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
And I think, like there's I like to see the
ways that they try and build these worlds out when
they make movies like this. I think that's one of
the most fun things about John The law is how
you expand the world, and the law, the John Wick
law is insane.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
I mean the law of nobody too is only not
insane because we don't know that much about it yet.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
I will say that the more I.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Learn and you learn more about nobody too, for instance,
you learn that, uh, it's Hutch and the resist dad
was like involved in this town for was like.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Bringing a holiday, but really it was some kind of.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Mission right because uh, you know, drugs and counterfeit goods
and chemical precursors for drugs and things are coming back
from Canada into this small town and Hutch's dad and
his dad was involved in this. And there's also the
thing of I forget the name of the character who
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in one and two Hutch calls on the phone and is.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Like his content is like, oh, it's his governments, contact government,
his government handler who is in this for like a minute,
but it's.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Has the Michael Michael Well it was Michael Ironside in
the right in the first one. But you know who
is it? No, it's the I'm talking about the British
guy who's like in the barbershop and he's just.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
This you've got in trouble this time you missed.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
You're gonna have to keep your head down on this one,
Old boy.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
A right, John Wick, and Sir John, I think that's
one of my one of my things that I really
enjoy about this era of like crazy action movies.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
It's basically just that we're.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
In a time where people are allowed to have a
lot more fun with it and there is more of
a kind of wild style approach. Whether it's The Kingsman
or whether it's John Wick or whether it's nobody, We're
getting these different versions of what an action movie can be.
And I do think that historically there's a good action
comedy tradition in America, So I feel like these fit in.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
And I think that there is the other influence that
I'd like to call out on this movie specifically, and
they want is the is the genre of YouTube video
that's like Bully gets his due, Bully picks.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
On the wrong guy. Yeah, And I mean that is
the power of both of these movies.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Every single absolutely set pieces like Bully picks on the
wrong guy, you did it, you did the wrong thing
this time, like when the when the carnival guy smacks
the back of Hutch's daughter's head and you just know, Okay.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
You're just like what and also like that's such a
stupid just like take one step back, bro like, don't
don't hit an eleven.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Year old girl. But I am excited for the inevitable addition.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
And Nobody three of like the girl becoming really cool.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Oh no, that's gonna get it. That's definitely gonna hand
it off to the family.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
You go to hand it off to the family. Nobody three.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
It's called like family vacation and like it's like a
National Lampoon movie and they just go to a different place.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Take a quick break, and then we'll do some opening
box office predictions. We'll talk about your favorite uh you know,
middle aged man, aggrieved movies, retired hit man movies, and
we'll be right back after this. And we're back, okay,
(22:09):
box office predictions. Your box office prediction on a budget
of twenty five million dollars, Nobody to kind of a
good weekend to be opening.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
I think right now it's a good weekend.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
To be opening. I do think that.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
What's going to happen that I think is interesting about
Nobody is it ended up the first one ended up
in a very interesting situation.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Which was that it was relatively popular.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
It made twenty seven million dollars domestically fifty seven million dollars.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
Globally, but it was very popular on video and demand.
It was old school.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
I think, and I think that this is probably I
think that it's not realistically going to be able to
knock Weapons off number one because Weapons way overperformed. It
overperformed to the point of like making like thirteen million
dollars more than they.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
Thought it was going to make.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
This is going to be single digit millions open.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
I think this could be I think I think opening
weekends nine.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
I think it could go eight to ten.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
I think that it does have a crossover with the
weapons audience, which I do think is always, you know,
you don't always want to be battling up against that.
But I think that people who maybe have already seen weapons,
or who don't necessarily want to go and see something
that's really scary and instead want to just go and
see something that's kind of like late summer fun I
(23:35):
think it's got potential, and I do think it's opening
in thirty two hundred thirty two hundred years, so it
could over index and overform I went to see Weapons
last night for the third time, and it was like,
as I mentioned, there was an eight year old in there,
but also it was jam packed and it was discount Tuesday,
so that does happen. But it was like so loud
(23:55):
that I could just constantly hear people eating popcorn like
it was so it was so packed that you just couldn't.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
I don't in a movie will do that.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
I don't think it's got that kind of leg but
I do think it could.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
People are excited to be at the movie there they
see so it could be a bit more.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
I do see it going to VOD definitely.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Yeah, Yeah, And I think as well, like for all
we know, we'll see what kind of see what kind
of kind of situation they're in, because also that you
could do VOD, but they could also make a ton
of money if they sell this to a different streaming
site as it's place.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Okay, So, Jason, Rosie, if you like.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
It, yes, if you like nobody what Rosie retired hit
Person Slash you Fucked.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
With the Wrong Person movie?
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Okay, I recommend, And what it's a home alone movie,
would you recommend?
Speaker 4 (24:50):
Okay? So let me look.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Okay, So in my current I have currently fully committed
to always changing my letter box top four, which I
know people I'm not.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
They don't love that, but you know what, I can't
help it, Guys.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
I love, I agree, I agree, So I'm a changer,
I'm But what I do now is I specify. So
after I saw Nobody, I put a selection of some
of my favorite super violent dad slash wronged dad movies.
This one of the ones that I'm going to recommend,
is gonna come out soon on four K. It's been
(25:25):
very hard to find up until now. They're actually doing
a screening of it in La coming up soon with
the star James Brolin. Still looking great by the way, Guys,
he's like in his eighties. Still still looking great. Love
James Brolin, And he is in this movie called Night
of the Juggler where his daughter is kidnapped by a
creep in like eighties Harlem, seventies eighties Harlem, which is
(25:48):
completely broken down, and the movie is really grimy, really
grow grubby like definitely has creepy overtones, but it is
also essentially an eighty minute long chase through New York
on multiple different public transport metro bus, feet, car, it's
one of the best. I think it's such an underrated
(26:11):
classic exploitation movie and they're doing a four K re release,
so I think that is very much one of the
early and most interesting kind of death Wish spin offs.
So definitely that one. I would say one of my
other kind of that's kind of a cheat one. One
of the ones I have listed here is Trained to
Busan because it's violent and there's a dad, but I
(26:32):
don't think that really counts.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
But it's a good horror movie. Guys.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
I am a fan, of course of Park Chamwick's Old Boy.
I think that is a very good aggrieved man movie
that also influenced many of these films. So those would
be two of my top ones. Jason, how about you.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
I'm gonna go with Eastern Promises two thousand and five.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Ooh, one of the best sorry history, by history of it.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
I'm gonna go with two thousand and five is a
history of violence David Crohn, based on a comic book
based on a graphic novel. David Cronenberg's adaptation of the
graphic novel of the same name about a kitman who
retires from the Chicago mob to go work at a.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Diner and has a nice family.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
It's good one day things his world's intersect and he's
gotta be violent again. It's a great one, and honestly
it's oh, excuse me, Philadelphia Mob.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
It's a great one. And it's honestly beat for beat.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
You could put it over Nobody won, and it's kind of,
oh yeah, all of these movies follow that's the same.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Thing that is fun is like there are it is
the same beats. But there's something that is so appealing
about watching somebody go out of their way and the
underdog story.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
You know, I do think that.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
I do still think John Wick is just we mentioned
it a bunch of times, but it is just up there.
I just think, Oh, you know which other one I love?
Which is one of the craziest's absolute classic Tony Scott
classic Man on Fire starring Denzel that's not the craziest movies.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
A Kitchen and Ac did hit Man.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
But he wouldn't necessarily have gone so hard if they
hadn't stolen his young white charge.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
The code of Fanning, who.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Is deeply close to who has seen through his hardened ways,
and I'll never.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
Forget like some of the depths in that movie.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
It looks like a really prestigious American action movie, and
it is, but like they are like blowing people up
with like fireworks in their butt, like he's doing crazy
things in there that put it up there, I think,
with some of the best of these kind of movies.
And then finally for a home alone, meaning a climax,
a trap, yes, trap Leyden climax.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
I mean, there's a lot to pick on here. You
could say, Hobbs and Shaw, you could say, I think
to some of the Equalizer films, do.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
This any Saw films or skuy fal Saw.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Is basically I'm gonna go slight Twist. I'm gonna go
Return of the Jedi.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
Okay, love this.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Those motherfucking e Wills, how they won the wall, you know,
setting those traps with the logs and the rocks and
all that stuff. Don't count what they've done for the cause.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Don't discount it because that's how they want. Okay, I'm
gonna tell you guys, this is this is the movie
that you should all go and watch. I believe it's
probably still streaming somewhere like Chewby maybe now maybe shudder.
This is the big controversial nineteen eighty nine French movie
called Deadly Games, which I only found out about because
of Shudder. It was also called Dial Code, Santa Claus,
(29:43):
Game Over, Hide and Freak. It's basically a kid at
Christmas in France whose house is broken into ala Home Alone.
It's very much a Home Alone influence Anna, and but
he goes like Ham. He's like a child prodigy who
starts making like inventions and blowing things up, and it's
really really good, scary, creepy stuff. It's it's definitely what
(30:07):
they were trying to do with Home Alone. But they
were like, you know, Americans and Christmas. And that's why
I think Macaulay Culkin gives one of the old time
like unintentionally creepy performances in Home Alone.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
I mean, Nobody to five stars out of five star
rating system, What do you give it, Rosie?
Speaker 3 (30:26):
I think Nobody Too is a decidedly solid like a
you're looking at. I would have said, you know, I'm
trying to think about other movies I've rated this year.
I rated Jurassic Park Rebirth, which was like a fine
kind of streamlined movie that was like a three and
a half for me. So I think I got to
give Nobody two more of like A four, because I
(30:47):
do think the invention of that. I think the action
is really inventive. I think the cost is funny. I
think that it's enjoyable, well shot movie. It's eighty nine
minutes long. That's so I'm like, if you just me
like a leaning me in it mean crazy action fun
settings because of the notion of the theme park. I
(31:10):
will also say I do think from the outset of
the John Wick franchise, these guys have made interesting and
thoughtful choices about who their bad guys are, so it
doesn't always kind of fall into that more like very
nefarious kind of death wish peppermint like weird crime racism
kind of mindset. So I think this movie also follows
along with that. And yeah, I mean, if you just
(31:32):
want to see some people get killed on a water slide,
then enjoying Nobody too.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Yeah, I'm gonna give it a I'm gonna give a
solid three and a half fat great action movie. There's
nothing in here that's new or super surprising, but it's
a it's a very entertaining, enjoyable time that again, at
eighty nine minutes, really respects your time. When I got
home from the movie. Christine was like, you're home already.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
I'm like, yeah, lead a mean movie.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Literally, you're like, no, two hour and forty long min here,
Like no, I can just enjoy this. Also, it is
really funny that the movie is written by the same
guy and it's basically just all the same beats.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
I respect that, I respect, I respect that, I love
your I love your ustle, I love that. On tomorrow's
episode of extra Vision, we're breaking down the biggest news
of the week. It's news that's it for this episode
that you're listening. X ray Vision is hosted by Jason
Cepcion and Rosie Knight and is a production of iHeart Podcast.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Our executive producers are Joel Monique and Aaron Kaufman.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Our supervising producer is Abuzafar.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Our producers are Common Laurent Dean Jonathan and Bay Wack.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
A theme song is by Brian Vasquez, with alternate theme
songs by Aaron Kaufman.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Special thanks to Soul Rubin, Chris Lord, Kenny Goodman, and
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