July 27, 2025 • 44 mins
Jason and Rosie went to Comic Con and they're bringing you all the news live from the Alien: Earth podcast booth, joined by Joelle Monique and Ian Johnson. In addition to discussing the slew of spin-offs announced they also take a look at the Predator: Badlands trailer, review the Eisner winners, and poder the impact of Fantastic Four's box office. Then Jason and Joelle sit down with the creator of Alien: Earth, Noah Hawley and actor Alex Lawther.
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Speaker 1 (00:16):
Hello, my name is Jason tepsio An, I'm Rosey Night,
and welcome back to X ray Vision, the podcast where
we dive deepoop peeptoop.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
It's your favorite shows, movies, comics and pop culture.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
We're coming to you from iHeart Podcast, Ken from San
Diego Comic Con, and of course we're bringing you three
episodes a week every Tuesday Thursday, plus the summer's biggest
movies on Friday, News news on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
And it is time for news.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
It's time for some news.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
But this time we're doing news from a very special place, guys.
We are doing it from the Alien Earth installation at SDCC.
We are officially surrounded by xenomorphs and posters for the
official podcast, as well as some very very cool scary imagery.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
The people outside are queuing.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
There is at least the hundred people out there trying
to get into the Alien activation.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
But that's okay. That's that business. All business is news.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Yes, So today we're coming out with all the biggest
news from comics and movies and TV in SDCC.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Folks, what's been your favorite thing that you've experienced thus
far at Comic hall Ian we haven't introduced yet Super
producer Ian first time on the mic, what's your what's
been your favorite moment from Comic CON's First of.
Speaker 5 (01:26):
All, happy to be on the show, Happy to be
on Mike.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
We've been waiting.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
It's an exciting, big moment special.
Speaker 6 (01:33):
Yeah, I would say, you know, this is only the
second time I've been to Comic Con. The last time
was like fifteen years ago, so I think the scale
is just staggering at this point compared to back then.
But I would say just seeing the community and the
costumes and just how free everybody is, you know, expressing themselves,
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and the passion for what everybody loves. And then I
would also say a lot of the panels that I've
been to have been really inspiring, just hearing from creatives
and people in the industry and their their past and
what led them here. So I think that's that's been
some of my favorite moments so far.
Speaker 7 (02:09):
Yeah, you and I went to this panel called the
Pitching Hour the other day that was phenomenal, like some
of the greatest, like people of color women in the
industry talking about how to pitch a show, which sounds
like maybe not as exciting as you know, an Alien
Earth reveal, but it was really really fun. And then
the costumes this year, even talking a lot about like
who are we seeing the most? I have some contenders, okay,
(02:32):
and some interesting.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Like leave out some snobs.
Speaker 7 (02:35):
I have not seen a single Batman, not one anybody
Batman variant.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
I've seen Batman who was like, had the Keaton style cloak,
but that was I'm still you usually see at least Batman's.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
I've seen a lot of jokers, handful of jokers.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
I mean, there's night Wings, there's Batman variants.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
There definitely bat family I've seen.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, So who's the most played character
that you have seen?
Speaker 7 (03:04):
I don't want to say most played, but the most No,
the character I've seen the most because I you know,
we've been working.
Speaker 8 (03:13):
I've seen four Loraxes, my.
Speaker 7 (03:15):
Gosh, four separate Loxes, which is not anywhere near my Like.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
I feel like that that meme of the girl who
who went to school and thought it was doctor Zust
and was dressed as the Lorex and was bold and orange.
I feel like it's inspiring people because it's a similar aesthetic.
I feel like, okay, other than the Lorax, who's an
unexpected hit that you've seen her this time around.
Speaker 7 (03:38):
I don't know all the character for my hero Academia,
but whatever one is in the green and white like
oh yeah, yeah that everywhere children adults, t shirts, like
blankets everything.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
It's huge thee Yeah yeah, yes, I would say as well.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
I've seen a lot of kids wearing Demon Slayer jackets,
you know. And also there's a huge Demon Slayer on
the wall, so like on one of the big buildings here.
So that's been really fun. I mean, the costumes this year,
I do feel like and today Saturday when we're recording,
this is meant to be the best cosplay day, but
I feel like it's already been an outstanding cosplays.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
So I'm very excited to see more of your photos
of the cosplay. Jason. I'm glad you.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
I'm glad that you posted some of those because you
were getting some really cool stuff.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
It's been the most fun for me. It's just the
costplays walking around, you know who. I've seen a lot
of Raven so many.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Okay, it was actually a joke yesterday me and Jason
on the show floor.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
We're trying to see like, oh, who is that is it? Raven?
Is it you? Know Me Seek.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
But then within the next five minutes walking through the
we saw at least five other Ravens that.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
It has definitely been a highlight.
Speaker 8 (04:49):
Ean.
Speaker 6 (04:49):
What about you, I've seen a lot of Fantastic four,
which makes sense, correct, that's a ton of Fantastic.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Fantastic four costumes from but I've seen a lot of Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
I was also you know those kind of suits that
you just step into that almost like they used to
have the head but now they've sort of realized you
can print anything on them.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Did you see it in real life?
Speaker 7 (05:13):
So I saw her in real life and it was
so cool because she was out of costume.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
She's like kin, she's like inside this kind of stilt
suit that she's mad.
Speaker 7 (05:22):
And she's huge, head and shoulders over everybody, and she's
just really living her best life.
Speaker 8 (05:26):
The fans outside are very excited for us.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Well, I have to say I saw over by the
Marvel booth and it looked so cool because the Marvel
booth this year is all Fantastic four, Rectress timely comics.
But they let her take a picture next to it,
and somehow the perspective was like she looked even bigger.
I was I got my wobbly knees and the thing
I'm gonna go. You guys have touched on all of
my favorite things about the con. I'm gonna say I'm
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gonna add to it something I know we all love
to do, meeting indie artists, being able to walk around
artist Ali. I saw my friend Arielle and she is
an incredible illustration and she had a T shirt that
had to get That was a freelance magical Girl T shirt.
Speaker 8 (06:04):
I love.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
And now if me and other people wearing it see
each other around the corn.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
We're like, hey, hey, hey, but the.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
Thing I'm really enjoying and Ian This will sound crazy
to you, but I know that Joel and Jason can
confirms this. San Diego is like very easy to walk
around like compared to like every other show I have
been in the con floor and that there is space
to breathe, you could swing your arms.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
I don't know what it is.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
I know people are going to the panels. That's a
big thing. I'm hearing cues for Godzilla panel. By the
end of our panel, it was one in one out.
There is a passion that is moving I think from
fully from hall Ah and now it is a little
bit more split, and I think people would have thought
it would have been split where they only really go
to the collectibles, but it has actually turned out that
(06:47):
just from straw poling, just from vibes and talking to people.
Ever since a couple of years ago when Marvel didn't come,
that move towards actually going to the programming has really
been a big push, and I think that's fantastic. So
seeing that, as well as being able to like walk
without constantly being squished between twenty people.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
I think there's more stuff outside of the yeah traditional buildings.
I mean we're out, you know, we're adjacent to the
building the Alien Earth.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
And you don't have to have hash site, you have
to have a badge to come here.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
This is free.
Speaker 9 (07:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
There's a bunch of stuff along the harbor. There's stuff
across the street by pepper Co Park. So it's it
feels more spread out, and to your point, it feels
like there's less of a main center of gravity.
Speaker 7 (07:30):
Around, which is nice because I think it's allowed for
a lot more like person to person interaction.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
Someone.
Speaker 7 (07:37):
I was having gimlets and parmesan truffle fries at this
amazing little bar. I was like, it's quiet, there's no
one in here, magical. I'm just gonna take a seat
and cool down for two hours. This couple's walking out
they see my shirt. I'm in a Queen of the
Damn shirt and they're like, I'm so sorry. We have
to stop you and tell you we've seen a movie.
It's amazing and you too must watch it. It's Indian.
(07:59):
They're like, but it's not Bollywood. It's about vampires. I
think it's called like Midnight Woman or something like they did. Immediately,
I was like, I'm adding it to my cue right now.
I've never been stop based off of like a fandom
of my shirt to be like, there are other references
and rex for you.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Some Yeah, that's something quite magical that comic Con does.
It gets people excited to share what they love, and
then they really will be sharing it with you, like
you can fall down a rabbit hole of conversation and
you can end up doing unexpected things. I met one
of our listeners, Pableau, at a party. He was super
stoked to meet me. We ended up getting on really well.
He's an awesome high school teacher. So when we moved
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to the next party, we just took a crew. You know,
you can really end up. He came because he loves
X ray Vision. But then it was like he was
such a chill guy and just had such a great
thoughtful vibe that totally fit with where we were going
that we just went and just hung out with him.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Like That's what I love. You can make new.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Friends all different kinds of spaces. I do also love
the fact that out of the four of us here
Ian is the only party baby.
Speaker 8 (09:00):
Before please tell us about your party experience.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Because we've been we've been asleep from.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
Home, so I mean the parties have been great.
Speaker 6 (09:08):
The theming and the branding and everything is just like
so over the top and an amazing Like last night
I went to uh an Avatar party, like celebrating the
twentieth anniversary. There's a giant ice sculpture covered in sushi.
They were like elemental themes, cocktails and stuff. The Last
Airbender yes, yes, and uh Dante Bosco Zuko himself was
(09:30):
djaying and everything.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
Where else are you going to see something like Filipino legend?
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Yeah exactly.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
It was really funny because I was speaking to someone
about that this morning and she was like, the kids
don't understand, Like, sure he's Zuko, but to us he's Roof.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
You know, I love that because that's the way it
should be. Wow, we haven't look at us having a
good time.
Speaker 9 (09:52):
So good?
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Should we get to do it?
Speaker 5 (09:54):
Let's do it.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Let's quickly go to break. Will we come back news?
Speaker 9 (09:58):
Yeah, and we're back.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Hey, back here at San Diego Comic Con.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
First up on news, south Park fresh off inking a
one point five billion dollar billion meal with Paramount, which
just leads you to believe that that show is making
tremendous amounts of money for the Paramount Network.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
This is something I've learned. It started with my nephew,
who's like eleven. He started to tell me about South Park.
Have you ever heard of this show? Have you ever
heard of this show? Adorable starts telling me all the
law and then suddenly I'm at zine fests in like
Burbank and there's twenty year olds wearing South Park caps.
And then suddenly when you're here, there's so much start
like much not for Star Trek.
Speaker 8 (10:48):
Our our key car.
Speaker 7 (10:50):
First of all, that's an inside joke. We we wanted
Star Trek for so bad one day. Uh, even our
key cards had Cartman on the hotel the.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Money and they are making the money.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
So as soon as that deal was done, South Park
went in on a variety of topics, including Jeffrey Epstein,
the predilections of the sitting president of the United States,
and other issues.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Including United States President Donald Trump just ripping him.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
They absolutely took the piss out of him and you
know how much.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
And Trey Parker has since apologized, although clearly it was
a tongue in cheek apology and you.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Have to respect how quickly after.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Signing the one point five billion dollar deal they went in.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
I think that that is actually, you know, South Park,
it was very of its time. I know they've been
still making it not necessarily something I always watch, but
what you can trust them to do is be on time,
writing a timely shit and it's a one week about
it and it feels so prescient. And of course the President,
(11:49):
Donald Trump, he was not happy about this, and he
said some really funny shit. He was like, this is
like a show only for losers, hanging on by a
thread or something, you know, really over the time.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
For the creators, which means actually for the class a
huge fall. Also, uh were announced last night at Santio
Comic Con.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Should we go through sies?
Speaker 4 (12:17):
We The Eisners is like any award show if you
go there, it's very long and many many people get recognized,
but there are a few big awards like best Writer,
best Pencil, Best Comic Artists, So yeah, we should we
should go through them.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Jean lun Yang for a Lunar year Love Story one
for Best Writer.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
I love that.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
He also that also Wrod Best Books for Young Readers too,
so that was a double. I believe he may have
won something else because he I saw that they had
like he had three eyes.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
In this last night.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Charles Burns of con Mix Fame Run for one for
Best Writer and Artists.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Crazy Old School Pulled the indie cartoonist best known for
like black Hole and these kind of weird dark comics.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
That was an unexpected one for me.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Definitely best pencler Inker bil Quist, Every Windhorn.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
And that is the artist behind Superman Woman, the Superman Woman, Supergirl,
Woman of Tomorrow. That is Bill Chris Everly who did that.
She did that with Tom King. They really teamed up
and then that was there. That was their create her
own book because they wanted to bring that fantastical, intricate
artwork to life but in something that they own.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
DC really uh knocking it out of the park this
year Best Coloring Jordy bell Air for a bunch of
deep John Constant and Hellblazer, Get in America, etcetera.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
Exce.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
She's one of the only women.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
She was one of the first women, if not the first,
to win like an Eisner. It really took that long
the women who were writers and stuff to be getting
those eyes anders outside of like an editorial credit.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
You know, so yeah, I love.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
That also unexpected for me, was not in a bad way,
but like Tula Lo Tae getting a lot of love,
she's really worn as well. Be cover artist, she's an
incredible cover artist. That's a big one too because once
Peach Momoco won Best Cover Artist, and obviously that.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Was relin artist cover artist.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
She needs a break because ever.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Since she won it it was three four hour lines.
Winning an Eisner is interesting because if you actually go
to the show, you may have the opinion that is
not necessarily what you expect from a fancy award show,
which I will say is.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Also the case with like every award show I've ever been.
Speaker 8 (14:30):
The glitz and glam looks better on camera.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
But the chance to like celebrate these creators and stuff
is like such a great thing. And once you get
that Eisner nominee on the front of like a more
like a traditional graphic novel, that's going on like every
library list, every bookseller list, it's it's it's small in
its own way, but it has big ramifications.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Next up, Age of Revelation Marvel's Marvel Comics upcoming X
Men Mutant storyline, which follows I mean one of my
personal favorite mutant's Doug Ramsey aka Cipher, who is currently
following the footsteps of Apocalypse.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
He's leading the mutant race.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
And his whole ideology is survival of fittest. It's evolution
and mutants are really the only ones fit. Or this
was announced last night at Marvel's pain.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
Yeah. They they've got so many big announcements in comics,
which feels really great, but it does feel a bit
weird to not have full h But yeah, that's going
to be their big new kind of X Men expansion
post Cricola and I thought Dog Doug Gramsy was a
very interesting, yes, interesting place to start, but yeah, that's
going to be their.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Big new event. So you'll see that kind.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
Of title on other books that they're bringing out because
there will be like crossover books and stuff too. But yeah,
I thought that was exciting for Mutant Kind because we
haven't really known where the next trajectory is taking them
in a more line wide way.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
I agree. Trailer for Predator Badlands new trailer looks great.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Look, look looks really good.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Feels really good to be talking about it in the
right Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Oh yeah, the East Eggs are here and we are
in them.
Speaker 6 (16:11):
Dan Trockenberg is cooking right, yes, between Prey Killer of
Killers in this I think the franchise is in excellent hands.
I love that we're building out the lore and learning
more about you know, the Predator home world, the social
hierarchy and all that stuff. And one thing from the
trailer that really jumped out to me that I think
is great. You know, I think there's one point where
(16:34):
the Predator is wearing el fanning in like a backpack
doesn't have legs, and it reminded me of Mamir and
Cradles in the Newest God of War Gamesmir's you know
ahead that Crados carries around and they're chatting and talking
the whole game. So it's giving me that similar vibe
and I think that's like a really fun dynamic that'll
add to the movie. And the action sequences look incredible too.
Speaker 8 (16:55):
Yeah, totally.
Speaker 7 (16:56):
I feel like we're really watching the full merger of
Alien and Preda.
Speaker 8 (17:00):
Like to start with the said, I was like, here
we go.
Speaker 7 (17:05):
I am excited, and team make Monsters sexy again.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
I want to say one thing first, because I agree
with you about they made him sexy. They know what
they do, they're not.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
But the thing that I was going to say is,
I think the backpack which we're seeing now is she
doesn't have legs. There's maybe from what we've seen in
the trailers, she's kind of was on that planet for
a reason and got left.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Behind destroyed them.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
Putting her on his back made me so excited because
the last thing I wanted was like generic badass woman who.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Is a cyborg sexy cybalk.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
No, they said, this cyborg is torn in half and
they're gonna have to look like they're giving each other
longing glances constantly because they're back to back proximity.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
The amount of people.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
I messaged and I said, guys, the monster lovers let's call.
Speaker 8 (17:57):
They're gonna thrive.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
They are going to thrive because that they said, yes,
make that Predator fine, and they did that.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
He's got abs.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
It's the best time ever in world history to be
a fan of Predator from aliens like you you're getting
more stuff.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Question and quality, good, really good stuff.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
And I'm yeah, I'm very excited with how much they've
gone in on tracton Berg. So I'm like, does that
me and him and Noah and maybe working together and like, is.
Speaker 8 (18:25):
That going to be direct connected about?
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Correct up next Fantastic four box office? It was kind
of right, So once.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Again Jason correctly the box office.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
So it's been a huge opening weekend and for Fantastic
four currently on track to make between one hundred and
would I say one oh eight?
Speaker 3 (18:45):
I think, I think. I think it's playing big first
couple of days.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
I think it's normal with these movies. It did get
an A minus cinema score from.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Viewers, which it's weird, exactly.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
Economy Like.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
It was actually so funny because somebody was in the
discord and they were like, you know, oh, you guys
didn't like it, Like I really liked it, and I
just responded and I was like, that's the point, Like
we love it.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
It's like there's enough of this stuff for everyone.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
Yeah, there's like fifty Marvel movies if you include all
the old bootleg stuff and made for TV stuff that
I love, like the incredible Hulk movies, and like it's
I love that this movie that we were all kind
of like, is it that jumping on point? Now the
audience is letting us know they feel like it is,
and that's what's really important.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
And I think as well, like Ian, what is your.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
Kind of read on the tone at Comic Con, because
I've heard quite a lot of people who kind of
shared our feelings. But do you I've also seen, like
you said, a love of the Fantastic fourard the costumes. Yeah,
do you feel like it's more positive here that kind
of read for sure?
Speaker 6 (19:47):
I mean, I think the overwhelming sentiment from from people
I've talked to, friends people here is that, you know,
there was people were so excited for this movie. The
anticipation for finally getting the Fantastic Four and the MCU
was so huge. And I'll speak for myself personally, you know,
I think maybe even I maybe built it up a
(20:08):
little bit too much for myself. So when seeing all
the positive reviews and people loving the movie, I'm happy.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
And that's good for the industry.
Speaker 6 (20:15):
I think it's good for Marvel, But for me, I
think maybe, you know, because the previous films have been
somewhat of a disappointment, I think we can all agree
that the fact.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
That this movie is just like a good movie.
Speaker 6 (20:30):
Yeah, it it feels like that's enough of a win
for everybody to be like, Okay, we did it.
Speaker 5 (20:34):
They made like a decent movie.
Speaker 6 (20:36):
So I feel like that's maybe where the disconnect, at
least the way we feel about the movie versus what
the general audience seems to think is coming from.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
But I think that's really good insight. And I just
think also like for us, we want it to be
that thing that gives us that childhood joy and the feeling.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
You know what, I'm sure.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
It's going to give that to a lot of people,
and that makes me really happy. And as we've always said,
guess what we still got? The comics still got everything
else that we use.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Yeah, where do we think it lands? Okay?
Speaker 1 (21:02):
So here is our top six ok of opening ok
opening weekends. Minecraft Number one, Lelo and Stitch number two, Sinners,
Jurassic World Rebirth, How To Train Your Dragon, Superman, Oh,
Fantastic four. Is it going to slot in somewhere in
that top four? One hundred and sixty two opening for Minecraft,
(21:27):
one for six for Lelo and Stitch. Does it crack
the top two?
Speaker 3 (21:32):
I don't think it's gonna Cracklelo and Stitch, just because
my understanding as well is like that is still swelling.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Obviously, open weekend is open weekend, but I think, like
that's one hundred and forty six. I think this is
maybe gonna be a very funny instance for people like us.
I think it's gonna make one hundred and twenty four million,
and it's going to be exactly the same number of
millions around.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
The space of Superman.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
And I think what it's gonna tell people is, yes,
there's an appetite for this stuff, but you've got to
stop trying to pretend that every movie can be a
billion dollar movie and stop.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Making these movies. There's a retrenchman happening exactly. It might
be that eight hundred million is like the new hit
and then and even then they can the new average,
you know. So if the problem is that's like several
hundred million dollars in difference. So like what happens now,
and how do we change the way we produce these movies?
Speaker 4 (22:23):
I know, start producing them like there are all kinds
of movies, like there are all kinds of comic books.
I truly believe you could give someone ten million dollars
with a vision or something make an incredible, superior movie
in Australia that's completely different to anything that we would
kind of expect. I think that's like there's got to
be a reconsideration. Sure, because even like Thunderbolts, it did well.
(22:46):
It opened well, very good, very good.
Speaker 7 (22:50):
Number nine at the highest grossing, so it's still in
the top ten.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
But at the same time, where is it at four hundred?
I was gonna say it didn't make it?
Speaker 4 (22:56):
Did I'm pretty sure it didn't ever hit five hundred
And that was the issue was it went to four
high fours, but it wasn't doing that big climb the
long legs, and that was legitimately a great movie with great.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
I think the thing is we got to start raining
in some of these budgets, Like you know, every movie
doesn't need to have a two hundred and fifty million
dollar budget. So I don't see a reason why we
can't have like a ninety million dollar Blade movie, just
like make it happen, you know. So Yeah, I think
that's the biggest thing, Like we don't need to make the.
Speaker 8 (23:24):
First movie you cheap out on Blade.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Yeah, it's one of those things where I do think
Like Blade for example, I mean, think about this. I
know it was a different time. I know money was different.
James Cameron, like he made Terminated Too for one hundred
million dollars. It was the most expensive movie of its
time at the time.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Still looks beautiful.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
Maybe there is a space where young new creators or
artists should be getting grants and incentives and money to
make see what would be a little bit different.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Think about were Wolf by Night. It was so good,
it was so good that also.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
That also like made zero the night made zero money,
and it was like they just like through Michael like
a couple million and him, go do your thing.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
Now, I'm saying, let him do the thing in the
MCU because he's good at it, Like why isn't why
isn't he directing or co directing Blade? And then making
sure that the script is written by a black person
who actually has some interest, maybe someone from London, because
that's actually where Blade. You know, he was raised in
the Red Light district with all of his mom and
her sex worker friends. Were like, they're the ones who
(24:30):
are raising him until obviously his mum untimely death needs revenge.
But like there's different ways, and I think you make
a good call. I think after Sinners, if they didn't
call Ryan Coogle up and start begging him to make
that Blade movie, they're dumb.
Speaker 8 (24:42):
I think it's how we got the announcement. It was
the earliest week.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
They're like, you can't own this one, but we can't
pay you way more money.
Speaker 10 (24:52):
A lot of spin offsnounced so much fine many the
freaking where he's President voiced by the legendary Keith David
was getting President and Andre Curtis, okay, Joe Andre Curtis, what.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
That show is going to be about? Because we couldn't
walk it out, like they have not told us.
Speaker 8 (25:11):
So here here's what I was reading this morning.
Speaker 7 (25:13):
They were like, we would love this even if it
wasn't a part of Ricky Morning, because the character is
so fascinating.
Speaker 8 (25:18):
The world they built out is really great.
Speaker 7 (25:21):
The character is interesting and to be fair, it's like,
what if Barack Obama had all of that swagger still
but then was like a total asshole publicly, And that
is an interesting angle on a character. It's interesting that
he's like Rix Nemesis. I think maybe most famously in
the show, he slept with rixa.
Speaker 8 (25:41):
One of my favorite moments of the show. So I
don't I don't know.
Speaker 7 (25:45):
I don't know if it's like a political like satire
show or if it's another sort of action adventure show.
Speaker 8 (25:51):
We do have seen him do a lot of like
secret covert stuff on Rick and Morty, so it's pop.
Speaker 7 (25:57):
Yeah, yeah, So it seems like maybe they'll go in
more of that direction, which is fun. I still don't
know who's leading is just I'm like, I mean, Dan's
still leading it, but I don't know who, like which
writers he's bringing over, so it's still a lot of
big question marks. I think this is a very interesting
character to spin out. I thought like Space Beth maybe
be your option. I would also take an alt universe
(26:21):
Summer because I'm obsessed with Summer. I think she's totally
super funny. Why Me Too Somewhere has the greatest adventure,
so it's an interesting choice.
Speaker 8 (26:29):
Well, we'll have to see what happens.
Speaker 7 (26:31):
I think Adult Swim and its animated shows are like
wildly hit or miss, So I don't know where this
will land in the end.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Up next Outlander.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Fans of period time travel romance, the show will continue,
the vibe will continue. The eighteenth century love affair will continue.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
With Blood of My Blood a wild title.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Absolutely, it's a romance show, and that is the title.
Speaker 7 (26:57):
Not only is it a romance show, it is a
romance about Jamie and Kaitlyn's parents, it is the two
leads of the current show's parents.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
I'm traveling through time her parents go back in time.
Speaker 8 (27:08):
And maybe meet his paper.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Oh, I was gonna say, I thought you meant they
had the same parents. I was like, it's always been
kind of an adult show. I was confused.
Speaker 7 (27:20):
I was like, no, no, But I think equally as
weird and implausible is like, okay, so her parents also
time travelers, and time travel to the era of his parents,
and all the time you could travel to right there and.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Then feel like at that time.
Speaker 7 (27:36):
And I also feel like we spent so much time
with these characters that I really liked them, and they
feel almost like Pear's and contemporaries.
Speaker 8 (27:42):
I don't want to see their parents Boone.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
I mean that's what the show is.
Speaker 7 (27:45):
Yeah, exactly confused about who this show is for. And
with Anglis it like two weeks to show.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Fans of romance novels, fans of time travel also met fans.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Of period sex.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
I was gonna say, the history and history, but now
involving the parents of the character.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
What cool new characters. It was funny.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
I was me and Joel hanging out in the room
eating I think like pizza when when Joel found out
about this, and it was incense.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
That's why I just had to imagine traveling back to
you know whatever, the eighteeenth century, knowing what you know
about sex.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
It would be like a.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Nuclear bomb going. People wouldn't be ready for you were
the common.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Goal twenty first sex century sex technology that you the
knowledge that you have delivered century people would be like, what, no,
this is.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Ready for this freak.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
It's true, thy like those shows, the idea of sex
is usually this was original Game of Thrones series problem.
One of the reasons I never managed to finish out Under.
They basically imagine that all sex is penetrative sex, and
in the old days, lots of women didn't want to
have it, so, oh, what happens next?
Speaker 7 (29:14):
You know?
Speaker 4 (29:15):
So I am always like, come on, guys, do something,
but you know what, maybe it will be good. They
did a similar thing with Supernatural where they spun it
off with the parents. I don't think it lasted very long,
but I did think the cost was charming. So still
up in there, we don't know. Also, how had I
not heard about this show and it comes out in
two weeks? Is it like a surprise drop?
Speaker 8 (29:32):
A lot of surprise drops have What did Amazon just dropped.
Speaker 7 (29:38):
Like an ice cubean Tragi p Henson remake up like
a classic film.
Speaker 8 (29:42):
They're like next week.
Speaker 7 (29:43):
I was like, wait, what like a spy opulent through.
I was like, okay, there's a weird in the content.
Boom right, it was so many shows.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
There's something about that notion of like that is a
representation of how we interact with TV and TV shows
because in the old days, we all imagine we knew
this has shot on a studio set, shot on location,
blah blah blah, they take this long to film. Here's
the press junkets here is the time till the film
comes out, Here is the time till it comes out
on home video. All of that has changed, and then
(30:11):
we're in a situation now where it's like somebody can
make a movie. It can be a passion project of
their life and you don't even know it exists till
it comes on Trube because they all just want to
put something out. It's a it's a really interesting kind
of weird place to be, but there is a boom.
Hopefully the jobs are coming back to La and.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Yeah. More comics spinoffs.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
China Spin Imperial is spinning out of several storylines. The
five titles are set up in the Imperial War one shot,
which will launch the the Crossover event. This is picking
up from storylines involving She Hulk, Phoenix, Stared, Devil, Nova
Love when they just like I feel like the.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
Marvel is the ultimate, Like they have been trying to
make Nova a thing like Fetch for such a long time, and.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
I know, I know it's gonna I do believe in it.
I'm not gonna say it can.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
Never happen, but like we need some new takes, It's true,
we need some new takes on that specifically.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
And also Planet Shehawks now a new solo series unlike
anything else in Choak's history. She go into space.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
She's going to space.
Speaker 8 (31:24):
She's going to space.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
She's going to use her brains in her brond to
maintain order on the savage planet of Scars. Footsteps a
little bit, Nova Centurion represents a new era for one
of Marvel's oldest and most iconic space fairing heroes. New
to your point new Nova stuff.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
I think that's an interesting take.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
I remember when they launched, like they didn't call it this,
but he was essentially like kid Nova.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
That was when I was didn't know, he didn't know
how to work. Was like the greatest American hero meets Novaeah.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Yeah, I have to say it was actually like a
pretty funny fun book.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
But I again again, they need to find if they
want Nova to be at the heart of them see You,
which they have for so long, they need to find
someone who can make it into like Akmalacan level success.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
Like it needs to be something that pops off organically, because.
Speaker 7 (32:12):
The story is the Spider Man animated series. You know,
a great Kid Nova hang out with like Girl White Tiger.
Speaker 8 (32:17):
I love that verse.
Speaker 7 (32:19):
He's like cocky, but he again doesn't really know how
to use his powers yet. He knows he belongs to
part of this great like core, but they're far away.
He's on Earth and separated from him, and so he's
figuring all that out. So it's like very like fish
out of water, like up and Hummer, with a lot
of promise. And I felt that that was like a
really interesting angle on a character I didn't know much about.
It definitely made me want to learn more about him,
(32:40):
So maybe we can lean in that angle hole.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Does the Lantern Show make any Nova ooh I Vision
show veterans less likely?
Speaker 4 (32:50):
I don't know, because I think that the Green Lantern
Corpse are like universal and multiversal, so it could actually
be interesting to Nova as almost like you know Cap
in Civil.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
War or some of Bops both space cops.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
I just wonder if because there's only one of Nova,
there becomes some kind of antagonism between them. He doesn't
like the way they're policing, or he doesn't think they're
doing it well enough.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
It could really you.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Could kill off the entire Novacorp, which is always fun
to do it exactly. The only idea it seems like
they ever.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Had I'm like, come on, but I do.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
I will say I love the use. I like to
read a solicit hear what they're saying about it. I
want to see that they're having fun. I don't want
it to read like it's AI. I like that they
kind of called him like a space farer that hints
at some kind of like maybe vintagey Rocketeer, like more
like an Aventure comic, which I think could be really
fun for that.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Coming up next, our interviews with Alien Earths Noah Holly
and Alex Buffer. We're with Alex Ranlan Earth. Thank you
so much for joining us our pleasure.
Speaker 11 (34:03):
Yeah, thanks for having us.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Tell us how this project came about.
Speaker 12 (34:06):
Well, it starts a conversation with FX, who I've worked
with for a very long time, and they said, if
we could get Alien for television, do you have an idea?
And the problem with me is if you asked me
if I have an idea, I'm going to have an idea.
And so I did very quickly have an idea that
became the show, but it took a couple of years
(34:28):
to get the rights. But what was nice is you
know you you you still on it for a couple
of years and then you go back to it and
you see if it holds up, and you know all
the elements that you're that you watch were in that original.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Well, we've seen the pilot and it's amazing. We'll be
general regarding details, but Joelle.
Speaker 7 (34:50):
Yeah, I am obsessed with the pilot. I've had such
a good time watching it. I was telling Jason earlier
that I've had to sit on my hands and like not.
I mean, my father's a huge alien fan. Everything about
like when I get the chance to talk to him
about it, was the first thing I want to talk about.
Speaker 8 (35:04):
I want to talk about hiding the alien in the frame.
Speaker 7 (35:06):
Yeah, Like talk to me a little bit about like
how much of that is initially in the script, and
how much of is that is you like working with
your cinematographer and producting I figure out, like Howard because
we don't know. I'm not spoiling anythings Refoor embargo, but
like talking about how you worked that into the horror
element of it.
Speaker 9 (35:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (35:22):
I mean one of the brilliant things about having a
hr Giger on the movie, not just creating the creatures,
is is you know, his design infused the whole movie,
and so when you watch Alien, what you realize is
that all the shapes on the ship are evocative of
the creature itself, so you're never really sure when you're
seeing it and when you're not. And you know, that
(35:45):
was certainly an inspiration for us. And then, you know,
I'm big on character reveals. I think that when you
introduce a character, you have to make the iconic, and
so it was really important to me that that first
moment that you really see the Xenomorph is a movie
star moment. And you know, I can report from holl
(36:05):
Age that it did exactly what I wanted report for
my computer.
Speaker 7 (36:09):
It did exactly like, oh my god, I was screaming
the whole time. I love I loved watching the pilot. Well,
speaking of like big you know, character reveals, and uh,
first time, Alex, you play CJ, who immediately fall in
love with He's like such a sweet, precious boy, talk
a little bit about you know, and and in the
(36:31):
show he's kind of like the only grounded human we're
dealing with like cyborgs and we're dealing with billionaire boy
princes and stuff, and like here come CJ. And he's
like very grounded and morally centered. For you like as
that sort of center. How was that for you as
an actor? And how did you feel about your reveal
of this character.
Speaker 11 (36:49):
Yes, Pool misname it CJ. I don't know where's come from.
He's called do DiMaggio in full after the baseball player,
and then somewhere along the line that's becomes CJ. But anyway,
Hermit has been Yeah, he's been left thinkingly alone without
his family. It's just having as he believed. And I
(37:12):
don't think it's too much of a spoiler because I
think it's out there in the open that he's been
separated from his sister Wendy. And therefore I think there's
a sense that we find this quite yeah, that that
that he he's he's missing of a of a of
a motor, of a of a of a reason to
(37:35):
move throughout the world.
Speaker 12 (37:38):
And but Alex and I talked a lot. There's a
couple of animated movies that are referenced in but one
that you don't see physically on screen. That that that
Alex and I talked about was Wally Because I said,
you know, I want him to he's alone, but he's
not sad.
Speaker 11 (37:57):
Yeah, you know, Yeah, And there's a sense that there's
a p sedualness to what he's doing and he's getting through.
He lives in this particular humanity minus world. He lives
sort of in the underbelly of the planet that we
find him in on this earth, that is in the
future from here, and he's kind of just getting on
with life by obligation rather than by choice. And he's
(38:21):
part of the military, but a medic. Yeah, and then
sort of I suppose the carpet of that day to
day ness of his life is ripped out from underneath
him when all the action thicks up.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
No Alien is not a series that one would usually
think of as containing.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Music drops contemporary music trusts, but there's.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Some wonderful ones in the series, including songs by Metallica
by Tool by Nina Simon.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Tell me about the decision to do that.
Speaker 12 (38:50):
You know, when you're making something for the fans, it's
about a feeling, a big feeling, right, And I made
the decision that you know, each episode is is a
bit of a cliffhanger, right, and what's going to launch
you out of an episode should be the feeling of
I'm exhilarated, I can't wait for more. And so there
(39:14):
was this. I just started putting these these songs in
these these classic you know, big anthemic, you know, metal
or or hard rock songs that that exist like Alien itself,
you know, in this classic sphere. And the combination of
(39:37):
that needle drop, those visuals, that moment and and and
that that smashed black you know, it becomes really a
big feeling. And I think, you know, looking at the
fan base of Alien, these are some rockers. I mean
literally in the movie Aliens, they go, let's rock.
Speaker 5 (39:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (39:57):
Right, So that's my motto to Askez, Well.
Speaker 8 (40:01):
Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
You know.
Speaker 7 (40:02):
So that we've been talking a lot Jason and I
on our podcast is like what defines science fiction?
Speaker 8 (40:08):
It's the conversation we've been going back and forth.
Speaker 7 (40:09):
We talked a little bit about it on our panel here,
and you use an Athma Off quote in the show,
which essentially is like, at one point technology becomes so
advanced it's magic. And given the advanced nature of the
technology in this show, I was curious, do you view
Alien the franchise as more science fiction or more fantasy?
And did that have an impact on how you were,
(40:31):
you know, crafting the show.
Speaker 12 (40:33):
What I love about the first two movies. Is they
exist in the sort of retro futuristic sense. You know,
you have these cathode tube ray televisions and the asci
text and you know, certainly in Prometheus, I guess Ridley
decided that he didn't want to do that anymore, even
(40:54):
though its a prequel that now the technologies are holograms
and it's very advanced and everything. And but for me,
that's the identity of Alien and it is science fiction
in that it's speculative. And I do think that, you know,
so much of what the future that we've evolved into
is what was created by science fiction writers and filmmakers
(41:17):
in the sixties and seventies, et cetera. So for me,
it was just trying to create a version of the
future that felt plausible, you know, one or two steps
ahead of where we are right now, but and where
we're grappling with very similar issues to what we're grappling
right now. But you know, I'm rooting for us here
(41:39):
on the planet Earth. And you know, let's see what
happens when we introduce an apex predator. Maybe that'll whip
us some shit.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Alex tell me about creating the character, was there a
moment when you thought, oh, I think I've got my
arms around CJ.
Speaker 11 (41:56):
And what drives Yeah, I think it really was my
first days filming with Sydney Chandler, who plays Wendy, who
is that I play her sibling? There was something and
I think this happens sometimes when until you've sort of
worked out your through line and your place is a
(42:17):
character in a story, things can be slightly there's a
sort of fuzziness. And being on set with Sydney for
the first day and it was, you know, maybe a
couple of weeks into filming, I something to think became
crystal clear as to what I was doing there who
my character thought we had to protect and the tension
and then grows out of that because and I don't
(42:39):
think again it's a spoiler. Wendy was formerly known to
Hermit as Marci and was a girl, a ten ninety
ten year old girl.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
Is that right?
Speaker 12 (42:51):
She's twelve in the show twelve, but you probably haven't
seen her for yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
Since that time.
Speaker 11 (42:56):
And therefore I'm meeting someone who I remember in a
totally different cell as this hybrid human and all this
care that I feel for this person, where do I
put it because he's now more than human.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
Well this has been fantastic. Thank you so much, No One,
Alex for joining us, Thank you well. Next up on
Extra Vision, we're gathering our roundtable to discuss fantastic four
first steps.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
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Speaker 3 (00:57):
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Yes, So today we're coming out with all the biggest
news from comics and movies and TV in SDCC.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Folks, what's been your favorite thing that you've experienced thus
far at Comic hall Ian we haven't introduced yet Super
producer Ian first time on the mic, what's your what's
been your favorite moment from Comic CON's First of.
Speaker 5 (01:26):
All, happy to be on the show, Happy to be
on Mike.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
We've been waiting.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
It's an exciting, big moment special.
Speaker 6 (01:33):
Yeah, I would say, you know, this is only the
second time I've been to Comic Con. The last time
was like fifteen years ago, so I think the scale
is just staggering at this point compared to back then.
But I would say just seeing the community and the
costumes and just how free everybody is, you know, expressing themselves,
(01:54):
and the passion for what everybody loves. And then I
would also say a lot of the panels that I've
been to have been really inspiring, just hearing from creatives
and people in the industry and their their past and
what led them here. So I think that's that's been
some of my favorite moments so far.
Speaker 7 (02:09):
Yeah, you and I went to this panel called the
Pitching Hour the other day that was phenomenal, like some
of the greatest, like people of color women in the
industry talking about how to pitch a show, which sounds
like maybe not as exciting as you know, an Alien
Earth reveal, but it was really really fun. And then
the costumes this year, even talking a lot about like
who are we seeing the most? I have some contenders, okay,
(02:32):
and some interesting.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Like leave out some snobs.
Speaker 7 (02:35):
I have not seen a single Batman, not one anybody
Batman variant.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
I've seen Batman who was like, had the Keaton style cloak,
but that was I'm still you usually see at least Batman's.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
I've seen a lot of jokers, handful of jokers.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
I mean, there's night Wings, there's Batman variants.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
There definitely bat family I've seen.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, So who's the most played character
that you have seen?
Speaker 7 (03:04):
I don't want to say most played, but the most No,
the character I've seen the most because I you know,
we've been working.
Speaker 8 (03:13):
I've seen four Loraxes, my.
Speaker 7 (03:15):
Gosh, four separate Loxes, which is not anywhere near my Like.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
I feel like that that meme of the girl who
who went to school and thought it was doctor Zust
and was dressed as the Lorex and was bold and orange.
I feel like it's inspiring people because it's a similar aesthetic.
I feel like, okay, other than the Lorax, who's an
unexpected hit that you've seen her this time around.
Speaker 7 (03:38):
I don't know all the character for my hero Academia,
but whatever one is in the green and white like
oh yeah, yeah that everywhere children adults, t shirts, like
blankets everything.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
It's huge thee Yeah yeah, yes, I would say as well.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
I've seen a lot of kids wearing Demon Slayer jackets,
you know. And also there's a huge Demon Slayer on
the wall, so like on one of the big buildings here.
So that's been really fun. I mean, the costumes this year,
I do feel like and today Saturday when we're recording,
this is meant to be the best cosplay day, but
I feel like it's already been an outstanding cosplays.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
So I'm very excited to see more of your photos
of the cosplay. Jason. I'm glad you.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
I'm glad that you posted some of those because you
were getting some really cool stuff.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
It's been the most fun for me. It's just the
costplays walking around, you know who. I've seen a lot
of Raven so many.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Okay, it was actually a joke yesterday me and Jason
on the show floor.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
We're trying to see like, oh, who is that is it? Raven?
Is it you? Know Me Seek.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
But then within the next five minutes walking through the
we saw at least five other Ravens that.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
It has definitely been a highlight.
Speaker 8 (04:49):
Ean.
Speaker 6 (04:49):
What about you, I've seen a lot of Fantastic four,
which makes sense, correct, that's a ton of Fantastic.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Fantastic four costumes from but I've seen a lot of Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
I was also you know those kind of suits that
you just step into that almost like they used to
have the head but now they've sort of realized you
can print anything on them.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Did you see it in real life?
Speaker 7 (05:13):
So I saw her in real life and it was
so cool because she was out of costume.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
She's like kin, she's like inside this kind of stilt
suit that she's mad.
Speaker 7 (05:22):
And she's huge, head and shoulders over everybody, and she's
just really living her best life.
Speaker 8 (05:26):
The fans outside are very excited for us.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Well, I have to say I saw over by the
Marvel booth and it looked so cool because the Marvel
booth this year is all Fantastic four, Rectress timely comics.
But they let her take a picture next to it,
and somehow the perspective was like she looked even bigger.
I was I got my wobbly knees and the thing
I'm gonna go. You guys have touched on all of
my favorite things about the con. I'm gonna say I'm
(05:50):
gonna add to it something I know we all love
to do, meeting indie artists, being able to walk around
artist Ali. I saw my friend Arielle and she is
an incredible illustration and she had a T shirt that
had to get That was a freelance magical Girl T shirt.
Speaker 8 (06:04):
I love.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
And now if me and other people wearing it see
each other around the corn.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
We're like, hey, hey, hey, but the.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
Thing I'm really enjoying and Ian This will sound crazy
to you, but I know that Joel and Jason can
confirms this. San Diego is like very easy to walk
around like compared to like every other show I have
been in the con floor and that there is space
to breathe, you could swing your arms.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
I don't know what it is.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
I know people are going to the panels. That's a
big thing. I'm hearing cues for Godzilla panel. By the
end of our panel, it was one in one out.
There is a passion that is moving I think from
fully from hall Ah and now it is a little
bit more split, and I think people would have thought
it would have been split where they only really go
to the collectibles, but it has actually turned out that
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just from straw poling, just from vibes and talking to people.
Ever since a couple of years ago when Marvel didn't come,
that move towards actually going to the programming has really
been a big push, and I think that's fantastic. So
seeing that, as well as being able to like walk
without constantly being squished between twenty people.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
I think there's more stuff outside of the yeah traditional buildings.
I mean we're out, you know, we're adjacent to the
building the Alien Earth.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
And you don't have to have hash site, you have
to have a badge to come here.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
This is free.
Speaker 9 (07:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
There's a bunch of stuff along the harbor. There's stuff
across the street by pepper Co Park. So it's it
feels more spread out, and to your point, it feels
like there's less of a main center of gravity.
Speaker 7 (07:30):
Around, which is nice because I think it's allowed for
a lot more like person to person interaction.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
Someone.
Speaker 7 (07:37):
I was having gimlets and parmesan truffle fries at this
amazing little bar. I was like, it's quiet, there's no
one in here, magical. I'm just gonna take a seat
and cool down for two hours. This couple's walking out
they see my shirt. I'm in a Queen of the
Damn shirt and they're like, I'm so sorry. We have
to stop you and tell you we've seen a movie.
It's amazing and you too must watch it. It's Indian.
(07:59):
They're like, but it's not Bollywood. It's about vampires. I
think it's called like Midnight Woman or something like they did. Immediately,
I was like, I'm adding it to my cue right now.
I've never been stop based off of like a fandom
of my shirt to be like, there are other references
and rex for you.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Some Yeah, that's something quite magical that comic Con does.
It gets people excited to share what they love, and
then they really will be sharing it with you, like
you can fall down a rabbit hole of conversation and
you can end up doing unexpected things. I met one
of our listeners, Pableau, at a party. He was super
stoked to meet me. We ended up getting on really well.
He's an awesome high school teacher. So when we moved
(08:36):
to the next party, we just took a crew. You know,
you can really end up. He came because he loves
X ray Vision. But then it was like he was
such a chill guy and just had such a great
thoughtful vibe that totally fit with where we were going
that we just went and just hung out with him.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Like That's what I love. You can make new.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Friends all different kinds of spaces. I do also love
the fact that out of the four of us here
Ian is the only party baby.
Speaker 8 (09:00):
Before please tell us about your party experience.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Because we've been we've been asleep from.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
Home, so I mean the parties have been great.
Speaker 6 (09:08):
The theming and the branding and everything is just like
so over the top and an amazing Like last night
I went to uh an Avatar party, like celebrating the
twentieth anniversary. There's a giant ice sculpture covered in sushi.
They were like elemental themes, cocktails and stuff. The Last
Airbender yes, yes, and uh Dante Bosco Zuko himself was
(09:30):
djaying and everything.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
Where else are you going to see something like Filipino legend?
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Yeah exactly.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
It was really funny because I was speaking to someone
about that this morning and she was like, the kids
don't understand, Like, sure he's Zuko, but to us he's Roof.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
You know, I love that because that's the way it
should be. Wow, we haven't look at us having a
good time.
Speaker 9 (09:52):
So good?
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Should we get to do it?
Speaker 5 (09:54):
Let's do it.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Let's quickly go to break. Will we come back news?
Speaker 9 (09:58):
Yeah, and we're back.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Hey, back here at San Diego Comic Con.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
First up on news, south Park fresh off inking a
one point five billion dollar billion meal with Paramount, which
just leads you to believe that that show is making
tremendous amounts of money for the Paramount Network.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
This is something I've learned. It started with my nephew,
who's like eleven. He started to tell me about South Park.
Have you ever heard of this show? Have you ever
heard of this show? Adorable starts telling me all the
law and then suddenly I'm at zine fests in like
Burbank and there's twenty year olds wearing South Park caps.
And then suddenly when you're here, there's so much start
like much not for Star Trek.
Speaker 8 (10:48):
Our our key car.
Speaker 7 (10:50):
First of all, that's an inside joke. We we wanted
Star Trek for so bad one day. Uh, even our
key cards had Cartman on the hotel the.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Money and they are making the money.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
So as soon as that deal was done, South Park
went in on a variety of topics, including Jeffrey Epstein,
the predilections of the sitting president of the United States,
and other issues.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Including United States President Donald Trump just ripping him.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
They absolutely took the piss out of him and you
know how much.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
And Trey Parker has since apologized, although clearly it was
a tongue in cheek apology and you.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Have to respect how quickly after.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Signing the one point five billion dollar deal they went in.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
I think that that is actually, you know, South Park,
it was very of its time. I know they've been
still making it not necessarily something I always watch, but
what you can trust them to do is be on time,
writing a timely shit and it's a one week about
it and it feels so prescient. And of course the President,
(11:49):
Donald Trump, he was not happy about this, and he
said some really funny shit. He was like, this is
like a show only for losers, hanging on by a
thread or something, you know, really over the time.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
For the creators, which means actually for the class a
huge fall. Also, uh were announced last night at Santio
Comic Con.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Should we go through sies?
Speaker 4 (12:17):
We The Eisners is like any award show if you
go there, it's very long and many many people get recognized,
but there are a few big awards like best Writer,
best Pencil, Best Comic Artists, So yeah, we should we
should go through them.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Jean lun Yang for a Lunar year Love Story one
for Best Writer.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
I love that.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
He also that also Wrod Best Books for Young Readers too,
so that was a double. I believe he may have
won something else because he I saw that they had
like he had three eyes.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
In this last night.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Charles Burns of con Mix Fame Run for one for
Best Writer and Artists.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Crazy Old School Pulled the indie cartoonist best known for
like black Hole and these kind of weird dark comics.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
That was an unexpected one for me.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Definitely best pencler Inker bil Quist, Every Windhorn.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
And that is the artist behind Superman Woman, the Superman Woman, Supergirl,
Woman of Tomorrow. That is Bill Chris Everly who did that.
She did that with Tom King. They really teamed up
and then that was there. That was their create her
own book because they wanted to bring that fantastical, intricate
artwork to life but in something that they own.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
DC really uh knocking it out of the park this
year Best Coloring Jordy bell Air for a bunch of
deep John Constant and Hellblazer, Get in America, etcetera.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
Exce.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
She's one of the only women.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
She was one of the first women, if not the first,
to win like an Eisner. It really took that long
the women who were writers and stuff to be getting
those eyes anders outside of like an editorial credit.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
You know, so yeah, I love.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
That also unexpected for me, was not in a bad way,
but like Tula Lo Tae getting a lot of love,
she's really worn as well. Be cover artist, she's an
incredible cover artist. That's a big one too because once
Peach Momoco won Best Cover Artist, and obviously that.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Was relin artist cover artist.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
She needs a break because ever.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Since she won it it was three four hour lines.
Winning an Eisner is interesting because if you actually go
to the show, you may have the opinion that is
not necessarily what you expect from a fancy award show,
which I will say is.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Also the case with like every award show I've ever been.
Speaker 8 (14:30):
The glitz and glam looks better on camera.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
But the chance to like celebrate these creators and stuff
is like such a great thing. And once you get
that Eisner nominee on the front of like a more
like a traditional graphic novel, that's going on like every
library list, every bookseller list, it's it's it's small in
its own way, but it has big ramifications.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Next up, Age of Revelation Marvel's Marvel Comics upcoming X
Men Mutant storyline, which follows I mean one of my
personal favorite mutant's Doug Ramsey aka Cipher, who is currently
following the footsteps of Apocalypse.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
He's leading the mutant race.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
And his whole ideology is survival of fittest. It's evolution
and mutants are really the only ones fit. Or this
was announced last night at Marvel's pain.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
Yeah. They they've got so many big announcements in comics,
which feels really great, but it does feel a bit
weird to not have full h But yeah, that's going
to be their big new kind of X Men expansion
post Cricola and I thought Dog Doug Gramsy was a
very interesting, yes, interesting place to start, but yeah, that's
going to be their.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Big new event. So you'll see that kind.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
Of title on other books that they're bringing out because
there will be like crossover books and stuff too. But yeah,
I thought that was exciting for Mutant Kind because we
haven't really known where the next trajectory is taking them
in a more line wide way.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
I agree. Trailer for Predator Badlands new trailer looks great.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Look, look looks really good.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Feels really good to be talking about it in the
right Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Oh yeah, the East Eggs are here and we are
in them.
Speaker 6 (16:11):
Dan Trockenberg is cooking right, yes, between Prey Killer of
Killers in this I think the franchise is in excellent hands.
I love that we're building out the lore and learning
more about you know, the Predator home world, the social
hierarchy and all that stuff. And one thing from the
trailer that really jumped out to me that I think
is great. You know, I think there's one point where
(16:34):
the Predator is wearing el fanning in like a backpack
doesn't have legs, and it reminded me of Mamir and
Cradles in the Newest God of War Gamesmir's you know
ahead that Crados carries around and they're chatting and talking
the whole game. So it's giving me that similar vibe
and I think that's like a really fun dynamic that'll
add to the movie. And the action sequences look incredible too.
Speaker 8 (16:55):
Yeah, totally.
Speaker 7 (16:56):
I feel like we're really watching the full merger of
Alien and Preda.
Speaker 8 (17:00):
Like to start with the said, I was like, here
we go.
Speaker 7 (17:05):
I am excited, and team make Monsters sexy again.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
I want to say one thing first, because I agree
with you about they made him sexy. They know what
they do, they're not.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
But the thing that I was going to say is,
I think the backpack which we're seeing now is she
doesn't have legs. There's maybe from what we've seen in
the trailers, she's kind of was on that planet for
a reason and got left.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Behind destroyed them.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
Putting her on his back made me so excited because
the last thing I wanted was like generic badass woman who.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Is a cyborg sexy cybalk.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
No, they said, this cyborg is torn in half and
they're gonna have to look like they're giving each other
longing glances constantly because they're back to back proximity.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
The amount of people.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
I messaged and I said, guys, the monster lovers let's call.
Speaker 8 (17:57):
They're gonna thrive.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
They are going to thrive because that they said, yes,
make that Predator fine, and they did that.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
He's got abs.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
It's the best time ever in world history to be
a fan of Predator from aliens like you you're getting
more stuff.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Question and quality, good, really good stuff.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
And I'm yeah, I'm very excited with how much they've
gone in on tracton Berg. So I'm like, does that
me and him and Noah and maybe working together and like, is.
Speaker 8 (18:25):
That going to be direct connected about?
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Correct up next Fantastic four box office? It was kind
of right, So once.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Again Jason correctly the box office.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
So it's been a huge opening weekend and for Fantastic
four currently on track to make between one hundred and
would I say one oh eight?
Speaker 3 (18:45):
I think, I think. I think it's playing big first
couple of days.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
I think it's normal with these movies. It did get
an A minus cinema score from.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Viewers, which it's weird, exactly.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
Economy Like.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
It was actually so funny because somebody was in the
discord and they were like, you know, oh, you guys
didn't like it, Like I really liked it, and I
just responded and I was like, that's the point, Like
we love it.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
It's like there's enough of this stuff for everyone.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
Yeah, there's like fifty Marvel movies if you include all
the old bootleg stuff and made for TV stuff that
I love, like the incredible Hulk movies, and like it's
I love that this movie that we were all kind
of like, is it that jumping on point? Now the
audience is letting us know they feel like it is,
and that's what's really important.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
And I think as well, like Ian, what is your.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
Kind of read on the tone at Comic Con, because
I've heard quite a lot of people who kind of
shared our feelings. But do you I've also seen, like
you said, a love of the Fantastic fourard the costumes. Yeah,
do you feel like it's more positive here that kind
of read for sure?
Speaker 6 (19:47):
I mean, I think the overwhelming sentiment from from people
I've talked to, friends people here is that, you know,
there was people were so excited for this movie. The
anticipation for finally getting the Fantastic Four and the MCU
was so huge. And I'll speak for myself personally, you know,
I think maybe even I maybe built it up a
(20:08):
little bit too much for myself. So when seeing all
the positive reviews and people loving the movie, I'm happy.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
And that's good for the industry.
Speaker 6 (20:15):
I think it's good for Marvel, But for me, I
think maybe, you know, because the previous films have been
somewhat of a disappointment, I think we can all agree
that the fact.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
That this movie is just like a good movie.
Speaker 6 (20:30):
Yeah, it it feels like that's enough of a win
for everybody to be like, Okay, we did it.
Speaker 5 (20:34):
They made like a decent movie.
Speaker 6 (20:36):
So I feel like that's maybe where the disconnect, at
least the way we feel about the movie versus what
the general audience seems to think is coming from.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
But I think that's really good insight. And I just
think also like for us, we want it to be
that thing that gives us that childhood joy and the feeling.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
You know what, I'm sure.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
It's going to give that to a lot of people,
and that makes me really happy. And as we've always said,
guess what we still got? The comics still got everything
else that we use.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Yeah, where do we think it lands? Okay?
Speaker 1 (21:02):
So here is our top six ok of opening ok
opening weekends. Minecraft Number one, Lelo and Stitch number two, Sinners,
Jurassic World Rebirth, How To Train Your Dragon, Superman, Oh,
Fantastic four. Is it going to slot in somewhere in
that top four? One hundred and sixty two opening for Minecraft,
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one for six for Lelo and Stitch. Does it crack
the top two?
Speaker 3 (21:32):
I don't think it's gonna Cracklelo and Stitch, just because
my understanding as well is like that is still swelling.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Obviously, open weekend is open weekend, but I think, like
that's one hundred and forty six. I think this is
maybe gonna be a very funny instance for people like us.
I think it's gonna make one hundred and twenty four million,
and it's going to be exactly the same number of
millions around.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
The space of Superman.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
And I think what it's gonna tell people is, yes,
there's an appetite for this stuff, but you've got to
stop trying to pretend that every movie can be a
billion dollar movie and stop.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Making these movies. There's a retrenchman happening exactly. It might
be that eight hundred million is like the new hit
and then and even then they can the new average,
you know. So if the problem is that's like several
hundred million dollars in difference. So like what happens now,
and how do we change the way we produce these movies?
Speaker 4 (22:23):
I know, start producing them like there are all kinds
of movies, like there are all kinds of comic books.
I truly believe you could give someone ten million dollars
with a vision or something make an incredible, superior movie
in Australia that's completely different to anything that we would
kind of expect. I think that's like there's got to
be a reconsideration. Sure, because even like Thunderbolts, it did well.
(22:46):
It opened well, very good, very good.
Speaker 7 (22:50):
Number nine at the highest grossing, so it's still in
the top ten.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
But at the same time, where is it at four hundred?
I was gonna say it didn't make it?
Speaker 4 (22:56):
Did I'm pretty sure it didn't ever hit five hundred
And that was the issue was it went to four
high fours, but it wasn't doing that big climb the
long legs, and that was legitimately a great movie with great.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
I think the thing is we got to start raining
in some of these budgets, Like you know, every movie
doesn't need to have a two hundred and fifty million
dollar budget. So I don't see a reason why we
can't have like a ninety million dollar Blade movie, just
like make it happen, you know. So Yeah, I think
that's the biggest thing, Like we don't need to make the.
Speaker 8 (23:24):
First movie you cheap out on Blade.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Yeah, it's one of those things where I do think
Like Blade for example, I mean, think about this. I
know it was a different time. I know money was different.
James Cameron, like he made Terminated Too for one hundred
million dollars. It was the most expensive movie of its
time at the time.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Still looks beautiful.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
Maybe there is a space where young new creators or
artists should be getting grants and incentives and money to
make see what would be a little bit different.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Think about were Wolf by Night. It was so good,
it was so good that also.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
That also like made zero the night made zero money,
and it was like they just like through Michael like
a couple million and him, go do your thing.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
Now, I'm saying, let him do the thing in the
MCU because he's good at it, Like why isn't why
isn't he directing or co directing Blade? And then making
sure that the script is written by a black person
who actually has some interest, maybe someone from London, because
that's actually where Blade. You know, he was raised in
the Red Light district with all of his mom and
her sex worker friends. Were like, they're the ones who
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are raising him until obviously his mum untimely death needs revenge.
But like there's different ways, and I think you make
a good call. I think after Sinners, if they didn't
call Ryan Coogle up and start begging him to make
that Blade movie, they're dumb.
Speaker 8 (24:42):
I think it's how we got the announcement. It was
the earliest week.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
They're like, you can't own this one, but we can't
pay you way more money.
Speaker 10 (24:52):
A lot of spin offsnounced so much fine many the
freaking where he's President voiced by the legendary Keith David
was getting President and Andre Curtis, okay, Joe Andre Curtis, what.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
That show is going to be about? Because we couldn't
walk it out, like they have not told us.
Speaker 8 (25:11):
So here here's what I was reading this morning.
Speaker 7 (25:13):
They were like, we would love this even if it
wasn't a part of Ricky Morning, because the character is
so fascinating.
Speaker 8 (25:18):
The world they built out is really great.
Speaker 7 (25:21):
The character is interesting and to be fair, it's like,
what if Barack Obama had all of that swagger still
but then was like a total asshole publicly, And that
is an interesting angle on a character. It's interesting that
he's like Rix Nemesis. I think maybe most famously in
the show, he slept with rixa.
Speaker 8 (25:41):
One of my favorite moments of the show. So I
don't I don't know.
Speaker 7 (25:45):
I don't know if it's like a political like satire
show or if it's another sort of action adventure show.
Speaker 8 (25:51):
We do have seen him do a lot of like
secret covert stuff on Rick and Morty, so it's pop.
Speaker 7 (25:57):
Yeah, yeah, So it seems like maybe they'll go in
more of that direction, which is fun. I still don't
know who's leading is just I'm like, I mean, Dan's
still leading it, but I don't know who, like which
writers he's bringing over, so it's still a lot of
big question marks. I think this is a very interesting
character to spin out. I thought like Space Beth maybe
be your option. I would also take an alt universe
(26:21):
Summer because I'm obsessed with Summer. I think she's totally
super funny. Why Me Too Somewhere has the greatest adventure,
so it's an interesting choice.
Speaker 8 (26:29):
Well, we'll have to see what happens.
Speaker 7 (26:31):
I think Adult Swim and its animated shows are like
wildly hit or miss, So I don't know where this
will land in the end.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Up next Outlander.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Fans of period time travel romance, the show will continue,
the vibe will continue. The eighteenth century love affair will continue.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
With Blood of My Blood a wild title.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Absolutely, it's a romance show, and that is the title.
Speaker 7 (26:57):
Not only is it a romance show, it is a
romance about Jamie and Kaitlyn's parents, it is the two
leads of the current show's parents.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
I'm traveling through time her parents go back in time.
Speaker 8 (27:08):
And maybe meet his paper.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Oh, I was gonna say, I thought you meant they
had the same parents. I was like, it's always been
kind of an adult show. I was confused.
Speaker 7 (27:20):
I was like, no, no, But I think equally as
weird and implausible is like, okay, so her parents also
time travelers, and time travel to the era of his parents,
and all the time you could travel to right there and.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Then feel like at that time.
Speaker 7 (27:36):
And I also feel like we spent so much time
with these characters that I really liked them, and they
feel almost like Pear's and contemporaries.
Speaker 8 (27:42):
I don't want to see their parents Boone.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
I mean that's what the show is.
Speaker 7 (27:45):
Yeah, exactly confused about who this show is for. And
with Anglis it like two weeks to show.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Fans of romance novels, fans of time travel also met fans.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Of period sex.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
I was gonna say, the history and history, but now
involving the parents of the character.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
What cool new characters. It was funny.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
I was me and Joel hanging out in the room
eating I think like pizza when when Joel found out
about this, and it was incense.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
That's why I just had to imagine traveling back to
you know whatever, the eighteeenth century, knowing what you know
about sex.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
It would be like a.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Nuclear bomb going. People wouldn't be ready for you were
the common.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Goal twenty first sex century sex technology that you the
knowledge that you have delivered century people would be like, what, no,
this is.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Ready for this freak.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
It's true, thy like those shows, the idea of sex
is usually this was original Game of Thrones series problem.
One of the reasons I never managed to finish out Under.
They basically imagine that all sex is penetrative sex, and
in the old days, lots of women didn't want to
have it, so, oh, what happens next?
Speaker 7 (29:14):
You know?
Speaker 4 (29:15):
So I am always like, come on, guys, do something,
but you know what, maybe it will be good. They
did a similar thing with Supernatural where they spun it
off with the parents. I don't think it lasted very long,
but I did think the cost was charming. So still
up in there, we don't know. Also, how had I
not heard about this show and it comes out in
two weeks? Is it like a surprise drop?
Speaker 8 (29:32):
A lot of surprise drops have What did Amazon just dropped.
Speaker 7 (29:38):
Like an ice cubean Tragi p Henson remake up like
a classic film.
Speaker 8 (29:42):
They're like next week.
Speaker 7 (29:43):
I was like, wait, what like a spy opulent through.
I was like, okay, there's a weird in the content.
Boom right, it was so many shows.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
There's something about that notion of like that is a
representation of how we interact with TV and TV shows
because in the old days, we all imagine we knew
this has shot on a studio set, shot on location,
blah blah blah, they take this long to film. Here's
the press junkets here is the time till the film
comes out, Here is the time till it comes out
on home video. All of that has changed, and then
(30:11):
we're in a situation now where it's like somebody can
make a movie. It can be a passion project of
their life and you don't even know it exists till
it comes on Trube because they all just want to
put something out. It's a it's a really interesting kind
of weird place to be, but there is a boom.
Hopefully the jobs are coming back to La and.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Yeah. More comics spinoffs.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
China Spin Imperial is spinning out of several storylines. The
five titles are set up in the Imperial War one shot,
which will launch the the Crossover event. This is picking
up from storylines involving She Hulk, Phoenix, Stared, Devil, Nova
Love when they just like I feel like the.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
Marvel is the ultimate, Like they have been trying to
make Nova a thing like Fetch for such a long time, and.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
I know, I know it's gonna I do believe in it.
I'm not gonna say it can.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
Never happen, but like we need some new takes, It's true,
we need some new takes on that specifically.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
And also Planet Shehawks now a new solo series unlike
anything else in Choak's history. She go into space.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
She's going to space.
Speaker 8 (31:24):
She's going to space.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
She's going to use her brains in her brond to
maintain order on the savage planet of Scars. Footsteps a
little bit, Nova Centurion represents a new era for one
of Marvel's oldest and most iconic space fairing heroes. New
to your point new Nova stuff.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
I think that's an interesting take.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
I remember when they launched, like they didn't call it this,
but he was essentially like kid Nova.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
That was when I was didn't know, he didn't know
how to work. Was like the greatest American hero meets Novaeah.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Yeah, I have to say it was actually like a
pretty funny fun book.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
But I again again, they need to find if they
want Nova to be at the heart of them see You,
which they have for so long, they need to find
someone who can make it into like Akmalacan level success.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
Like it needs to be something that pops off organically, because.
Speaker 7 (32:12):
The story is the Spider Man animated series. You know,
a great Kid Nova hang out with like Girl White Tiger.
Speaker 8 (32:17):
I love that verse.
Speaker 7 (32:19):
He's like cocky, but he again doesn't really know how
to use his powers yet. He knows he belongs to
part of this great like core, but they're far away.
He's on Earth and separated from him, and so he's
figuring all that out. So it's like very like fish
out of water, like up and Hummer, with a lot
of promise. And I felt that that was like a
really interesting angle on a character I didn't know much about.
It definitely made me want to learn more about him,
(32:40):
So maybe we can lean in that angle hole.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Does the Lantern Show make any Nova ooh I Vision
show veterans less likely?
Speaker 4 (32:50):
I don't know, because I think that the Green Lantern
Corpse are like universal and multiversal, so it could actually
be interesting to Nova as almost like you know Cap
in Civil.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
War or some of Bops both space cops.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
I just wonder if because there's only one of Nova,
there becomes some kind of antagonism between them. He doesn't
like the way they're policing, or he doesn't think they're
doing it well enough.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
It could really you.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Could kill off the entire Novacorp, which is always fun
to do it exactly. The only idea it seems like
they ever.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Had I'm like, come on, but I do.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
I will say I love the use. I like to
read a solicit hear what they're saying about it. I
want to see that they're having fun. I don't want
it to read like it's AI. I like that they
kind of called him like a space farer that hints
at some kind of like maybe vintagey Rocketeer, like more
like an Aventure comic, which I think could be really
fun for that.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Coming up next, our interviews with Alien Earths Noah Holly
and Alex Buffer. We're with Alex Ranlan Earth. Thank you
so much for joining us our pleasure.
Speaker 11 (34:03):
Yeah, thanks for having us.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Tell us how this project came about.
Speaker 12 (34:06):
Well, it starts a conversation with FX, who I've worked
with for a very long time, and they said, if
we could get Alien for television, do you have an idea?
And the problem with me is if you asked me
if I have an idea, I'm going to have an idea.
And so I did very quickly have an idea that
became the show, but it took a couple of years
(34:28):
to get the rights. But what was nice is you
know you you you still on it for a couple
of years and then you go back to it and
you see if it holds up, and you know all
the elements that you're that you watch were in that original.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Well, we've seen the pilot and it's amazing. We'll be
general regarding details, but Joelle.
Speaker 7 (34:50):
Yeah, I am obsessed with the pilot. I've had such
a good time watching it. I was telling Jason earlier
that I've had to sit on my hands and like not.
I mean, my father's a huge alien fan. Everything about
like when I get the chance to talk to him
about it, was the first thing I want to talk about.
Speaker 8 (35:04):
I want to talk about hiding the alien in the frame.
Speaker 7 (35:06):
Yeah, Like talk to me a little bit about like
how much of that is initially in the script, and
how much of is that is you like working with
your cinematographer and producting I figure out, like Howard because
we don't know. I'm not spoiling anythings Refoor embargo, but
like talking about how you worked that into the horror
element of it.
Speaker 9 (35:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (35:22):
I mean one of the brilliant things about having a
hr Giger on the movie, not just creating the creatures,
is is you know, his design infused the whole movie,
and so when you watch Alien, what you realize is
that all the shapes on the ship are evocative of
the creature itself, so you're never really sure when you're
seeing it and when you're not. And you know, that
(35:45):
was certainly an inspiration for us. And then, you know,
I'm big on character reveals. I think that when you
introduce a character, you have to make the iconic, and
so it was really important to me that that first
moment that you really see the Xenomorph is a movie
star moment. And you know, I can report from holl
(36:05):
Age that it did exactly what I wanted report for
my computer.
Speaker 7 (36:09):
It did exactly like, oh my god, I was screaming
the whole time. I love I loved watching the pilot. Well,
speaking of like big you know, character reveals, and uh,
first time, Alex, you play CJ, who immediately fall in
love with He's like such a sweet, precious boy, talk
a little bit about you know, and and in the
(36:31):
show he's kind of like the only grounded human we're
dealing with like cyborgs and we're dealing with billionaire boy
princes and stuff, and like here come CJ. And he's
like very grounded and morally centered. For you like as
that sort of center. How was that for you as
an actor? And how did you feel about your reveal
of this character.
Speaker 11 (36:49):
Yes, Pool misname it CJ. I don't know where's come from.
He's called do DiMaggio in full after the baseball player,
and then somewhere along the line that's becomes CJ. But anyway,
Hermit has been Yeah, he's been left thinkingly alone without
his family. It's just having as he believed. And I
(37:12):
don't think it's too much of a spoiler because I
think it's out there in the open that he's been
separated from his sister Wendy. And therefore I think there's
a sense that we find this quite yeah, that that
that he he's he's missing of a of a of
a motor, of a of a of a reason to
(37:35):
move throughout the world.
Speaker 12 (37:38):
And but Alex and I talked a lot. There's a
couple of animated movies that are referenced in but one
that you don't see physically on screen. That that that
Alex and I talked about was Wally Because I said,
you know, I want him to he's alone, but he's
not sad.
Speaker 11 (37:57):
Yeah, you know, Yeah, And there's a sense that there's
a p sedualness to what he's doing and he's getting through.
He lives in this particular humanity minus world. He lives
sort of in the underbelly of the planet that we
find him in on this earth, that is in the
future from here, and he's kind of just getting on
with life by obligation rather than by choice. And he's
(38:21):
part of the military, but a medic. Yeah, and then
sort of I suppose the carpet of that day to
day ness of his life is ripped out from underneath
him when all the action thicks up.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
No Alien is not a series that one would usually
think of as containing.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Music drops contemporary music trusts, but there's.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Some wonderful ones in the series, including songs by Metallica
by Tool by Nina Simon.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Tell me about the decision to do that.
Speaker 12 (38:50):
You know, when you're making something for the fans, it's
about a feeling, a big feeling, right, And I made
the decision that you know, each episode is is a
bit of a cliffhanger, right, and what's going to launch
you out of an episode should be the feeling of
I'm exhilarated, I can't wait for more. And so there
(39:14):
was this. I just started putting these these songs in
these these classic you know, big anthemic, you know, metal
or or hard rock songs that that exist like Alien itself,
you know, in this classic sphere. And the combination of
(39:37):
that needle drop, those visuals, that moment and and and
that that smashed black you know, it becomes really a
big feeling. And I think, you know, looking at the
fan base of Alien, these are some rockers. I mean
literally in the movie Aliens, they go, let's rock.
Speaker 5 (39:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (39:57):
Right, So that's my motto to Askez, Well.
Speaker 8 (40:01):
Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
You know.
Speaker 7 (40:02):
So that we've been talking a lot Jason and I
on our podcast is like what defines science fiction?
Speaker 8 (40:08):
It's the conversation we've been going back and forth.
Speaker 7 (40:09):
We talked a little bit about it on our panel here,
and you use an Athma Off quote in the show,
which essentially is like, at one point technology becomes so
advanced it's magic. And given the advanced nature of the
technology in this show, I was curious, do you view
Alien the franchise as more science fiction or more fantasy?
And did that have an impact on how you were,
(40:31):
you know, crafting the show.
Speaker 12 (40:33):
What I love about the first two movies. Is they
exist in the sort of retro futuristic sense. You know,
you have these cathode tube ray televisions and the asci
text and you know, certainly in Prometheus, I guess Ridley
decided that he didn't want to do that anymore, even
(40:54):
though its a prequel that now the technologies are holograms
and it's very advanced and everything. And but for me,
that's the identity of Alien and it is science fiction
in that it's speculative. And I do think that, you know,
so much of what the future that we've evolved into
is what was created by science fiction writers and filmmakers
(41:17):
in the sixties and seventies, et cetera. So for me,
it was just trying to create a version of the
future that felt plausible, you know, one or two steps
ahead of where we are right now, but and where
we're grappling with very similar issues to what we're grappling
right now. But you know, I'm rooting for us here
(41:39):
on the planet Earth. And you know, let's see what
happens when we introduce an apex predator. Maybe that'll whip
us some shit.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Alex tell me about creating the character, was there a
moment when you thought, oh, I think I've got my
arms around CJ.
Speaker 11 (41:56):
And what drives Yeah, I think it really was my
first days filming with Sydney Chandler, who plays Wendy, who
is that I play her sibling? There was something and
I think this happens sometimes when until you've sort of
worked out your through line and your place is a
(42:17):
character in a story, things can be slightly there's a
sort of fuzziness. And being on set with Sydney for
the first day and it was, you know, maybe a
couple of weeks into filming, I something to think became
crystal clear as to what I was doing there who
my character thought we had to protect and the tension
and then grows out of that because and I don't
(42:39):
think again it's a spoiler. Wendy was formerly known to
Hermit as Marci and was a girl, a ten ninety
ten year old girl.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
Is that right?
Speaker 12 (42:51):
She's twelve in the show twelve, but you probably haven't
seen her for yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
Since that time.
Speaker 11 (42:56):
And therefore I'm meeting someone who I remember in a
totally different cell as this hybrid human and all this
care that I feel for this person, where do I
put it because he's now more than human.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
Well this has been fantastic. Thank you so much, No One,
Alex for joining us, Thank you well. Next up on
Extra Vision, we're gathering our roundtable to discuss fantastic four
first steps.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
That's it for news. Thanks for listening.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
Bays x Ray Vision is hosted by Jason Concepcion and
Rosie Knight and is a production of iHeart Podcast.
Speaker 3 (43:42):
Our executive producers are Joel Monique and Aaron Kaufman.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
Our supervising producer is Abusa part.
Speaker 3 (43:48):
Our producers are Common Laurent, Dean Jonathan and Fay Wag.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
Our theme song is by Brian Vasquez, with alternate theme
songs by Aaron Kauffman.
Speaker 4 (43:56):
Special thanks to Soul Rubin, Chris Lord, Kenny Goodman and
Heidi our discord moderator.
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