September 5, 2025 • 55 mins
In this week’s roundtable chat, Jason and Rosie are first joined by Joelle and Carmen for a spoiler-free review of The Conjuring: Last Rites. Then Aaron joins the chat to break down whether the Nintendo Switch 2 is worth the upgrade if you already own a Switch 1. Finally, Rosie interviews the director of Toxic Avenger.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Warning.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
On this episode of XRGC, we will be giving you
spoilers for the Conjuring series in general, and will include
a spoiler free review of its latest entry, The Conjuring
Last Rights. You are warned. Hello, my name is Jason Caccepcio.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
And I'm t Pey No, I'm Mersey night.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
As an inside joke for in Front of View though,
and welcome to XRGC, our weekly roundtable chat with our
producers and or special guests talk about all the things
we're excited about currently in movies, TVs, comics and pop culture.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
In today's episode, we are talking about the Conjuring series
and its final entry, Last Rights with our Queen Queen's
Joel and Common. In segment two, me and Aaron are
gonna be talking about the Nintendo switch to what do
we think so far? Is it worth it? Do we
love it? Have we upgraded any games? You will find out?
(01:14):
And in segment three, the and or special guest is
coming in and it's Making Blair, who is the director
of the new cult hit The Toxic Avenger based on
the classic Troma series. And as always on XRGC, we
will end with thank Galactus.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
It's Friday. And share what we are most excited to
do this weekend.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
But first, Joel and Carmon, you saw the final installment
of the Conjuring franchise, The Conjuring Last Rights. Let me
conjure you here so you can tell us about it.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
Okay, let's do a really quick just overview, non spoiler. Okay,
the Warrens are back and they're forced out of retirement
by their over your daughter, who, just by two decades
of being stalked by demon still manages to be lured
into a trap. Fans in the film Triser could despair
and delight in equal measure. In this uneven conclusion to
a mostly enjoyable series, we're back and forth with a
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giant family living in a small, unassuming house that quickly
turns violent on anyone who dares to try to dispel
the demon. The spirits are sufficiently creepy. The dolls are
moving without assistance, and it's imperative that if you cannot
see the speaker of the person talking to you, you
need to assume it's a demon and they're luring you
to your death. Unfortunately, there is an hour and a
half act one. Okay, it is an hour and half
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Warren's get to the Smirrel family home.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
It is an unbearably.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
Long slog where we spend tons of time with Judy
Warren and her boyfriend and we worry over Ed Warren's
heart problems. The film is just kind of hell bent
on the Warrens being like these pioneering heroes who were
scarred by their close brushes with demonic forces, which is
an angle you can take, but in order to explore
the filmmakers really needed to engage in any number of
the controversy surrounding the Warrens, the flesh and blood humans
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impacted by their actions. But instead an hour and a half,
the well meaning family dribble with mostly predictable scares. This
is director Michael chaff As, his third film with Blumhouse.
He did The Curse of La Youirona, The Conjuring, The
Devil Made Me Do It, and The Nun too. If
you like any of those films, you'll probably have a
good time at The Conjuring Last Rites. Those are my thoughts, Carmen,
how did you enter and leave the cana?
Speaker 6 (03:24):
Yes, I you know what I was actually despite you know,
I thought like the poster looks kind of wonky. I
thought some of the marketing looks kind of wonky.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
I was like, you know, I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Though, I'm excited for Love the Conjrs.
Speaker 6 (03:37):
Yeah, I'm excited for this final chapter in the Conjuring franchise.
I do think it is a horror franchise that kind
of defined the twenty tens, like the late the late
I don't know exactly when the first Conjuring came out,
but the twenty tens, it really kind of it kind
of like set the bar for horror during that era.
I think my first thought, and what I shared with
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the group earlier, is that I think we're in a
different era of horror now, where like we're concerned about
different things, We're using different types of scares, we're using
different camera techniques, we're different storytelling altogether. This series to
me is, you know, just classicor And I think that
this movie was fun once you get through all of
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the family drama, all of the romance, all of the like,
I was just like, can we get to the scares?
Can we can we get to the haunted house stuff?
There were times where I forgot I was watching a
horror movie.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Does it have good scares?
Speaker 5 (04:38):
Okay, Carmen and I were texting about some of the
scares and we don't want to spoil anything, but the
doll scares are really good. I think the zested item,
I could say, this's not make it as well. It's
a mirror and the mirror is freaking creepy. I was like,
how could this this mirror proto?
Speaker 6 (04:55):
They spoil that in the trailer, and I will to
you that was my favorite. Was my favorite horror set piece,
which is the wedding dress like mirrored angle.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
Yeah, they should not have shown that in the trailer.
Speaker 6 (05:06):
Yeah, they spoiled it in the trailer, so I was
bummed about that, but yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
Yeah, And I think the house works pretty good. It's
a little upset. It's almost like the house in uh,
the First Conjuring, which I really love that house. It's
just so normal and it makes it like six times creepier.
This one's a little more run down. It's like blocks
from a giant factory you.
Speaker 7 (05:26):
Live in like Veigar.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Basically, yes, it's like.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
It's like sat in mid Guar, totally Central America.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
And I think, like for me a man again, the
ghoulies are pretty cool, Like Carmen was comparing the character
design of like one axe wielding Ghoulie to Resident Evil.
Speaker 7 (05:48):
What was it five seven seven?
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Yeah, and Welcome to the Family Sun.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
Yes, so it's working on that level. There's and there's
a couple of really good like oh my god, no,
there is a famous Hollywood actor from a bygone era
who plays a huge part in being a horror element
that it's very shocking and very funny. If you know
anything about the actor, you're like, wow, appropriate.
Speaker 6 (06:13):
Maybe I didn't know about this actor.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
Oh, we'll talk about him after, which I really enjoyed.
But I think, overall, to Carmen's point in our actual
group chat, predictable. If you've seen any of these movies before,
you know exactly it's like, oh, we're being lured into
the dark.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Oh, we're going into the basement.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
That's where all the bad things happened. Like it's formulaic,
and yet I love it. I was like squealing with
delight at times and other times I was checking my
watch like it's so back and forth, uneven, but I
still had a good time.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Yeah. I was gonna say, Jason, what, like, what's your.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Experience of the conjuring? Like, what was the first time
you ever watched it, and like, what did you feel?
Speaker 2 (06:55):
I saw the first Conjuring via Netflix. I believe Wow
DVD era like Wow, like mail it in in the
in the.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Ya tells you how long these films have been going on.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
By the way, produce Peter Saffran producing made a bucket,
bucket load of money, as we all know. I think
twenty million dollar budget over three hundred million dollar return.
And you're right, Carmen, like this redefined jump scares and
the jump scare as like the primary style of horror
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for that era, because it was like the jump scare
was back, baby, and it was getting you, Like I don't.
I know, my wife makes fun of me because I
don't scare easily. I watch horror movies at night and
then I go right to sleep. They don't bother me.
I don't get scared like hardly ever ever ever. But
like you know, I twitched, there was some of the
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jump scares in the first two are so so good,
and I agree with you too that it feels like
we're in a different era, a more like met textual,
self referential, intellectual era, social commentary era of horror that
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is really good too. But there was something so pure
about The Conjuring and and other movies of that era.
Emily the first Emily Rose movie, where it's just like, hey,
scary fucking house, there's something in there, you know, you know,
demon Investigators, we got.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
To check it out.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
Jane Doe is another good one. All these like really
contained haunted house like movies.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Yes, old school, really scary, And that's what I think
of when I think of The Conjuring. I can't believe
how long the series has been going on. I don't
necessarily think that the the others for two have been
as powerfreight, although they all have their moments, but you know,
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there is really no magic, like a very pure horror
movie like the first two Conjurings, where it's just like, yes,
it's a formula. Yes, the story is so simple, it's
like dumb, dumb. And yet when they pull you into
the dark and they go to that shot where you're
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seeing behind the character, now, oh yeah, yeah, and you were,
and and the feeling of like the tension in your
shoulders start to come up because you're like, is something
going to appear there or not. It's a great feeling.
And the Conjuring gave me those.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Yeah, and I think the thing about the first Conjuring
movie as well, not only did it spark this, as
Jason mentioned, like crazy money franchise, I think the biggest
horror franchise of old time is the Conjuring Bus. Two
point eighty billion dollars it's made altogether, and I'm this
one will add to it. But also the first Conjuring
movie is very rare because it was rated R just
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for how scary it was. There actually isn't very much language,
there's barely any gore. A lot of the temppoles for
what they would usually given R rating for were not
hit and James one was originally aiming for a PG thirteen,
but it got the R rating because they were like,
it's too scary. We can't pretend this is kid friendly.
And I think that that is kind of a representation
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of just how out of fashion the.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Kind of jump scare, slow creep movie was before this.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
And yeah, it changed horror forever. But now, as you
guys have said twelve years later post a twenty four,
you know, especially with a controversial couple like the Warrens
who have had you know, sexual abuse allegations against them,
who have had these kind of personal scandals. In a
modern horror movie, they would probably be the villains, but
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here they have portrayed as the heroes. I think that's
another reason why this wraps up now, you know the
and it puts in the past, and it'll be interesting
to see kind of where horror goes after this, because
every studio wants a conjuring three hundred and twenty million
plus on a forty million budget, Like come.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
On, yeah, I've been a big zero for me. The fans.
Oh yeah, I love my lady getting paid like this,
me too, you.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
She is the one like her and Patrick Wilson both
in this movie. They are so amazing and if it
wasn't for them, these movies would not be this great. Also,
I love, like you said Jason Verra, she's got her
little new metal band that she's in. She's spending the
money well on them. Patrick, he's, oh yeah, she's in
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a new metal band and she is the singer, and
she's like she does like slip knock.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Covers and stuff. And Patrick Wilson currently producing a Lost
Boys musical that's out to go on.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Broadway, so he's using his money well actually that was
my biggest question. Sorry, this is a mild spoiler depending
on you. Patrick Wilson found him.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Does Patrick Wilson sing in this Conjuring movie?
Speaker 4 (12:12):
He does not.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
There's music. Sorry, guys paying for.
Speaker 6 (12:20):
I wanted to say that, you know, I don't want
to spoil anything about the movie, but the movie does
involve a young couple that the Warren's daughter getting married,
and they seemingly kind of well both literally and metaphorically,
seem to kind of pass off the keys to the
to this new young couple. So I am curious to
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see if the Conjuring films will be rebooted.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
With this new couple.
Speaker 6 (12:47):
I don't think they have the same juice as Vera
Firminga and Patrick Wilson, but the.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
Old couple who's dedicated their lives to each other in
like after two weeks of knowing each other vibe like
this is creepy but also kind of whole. But I
will say the girl that played Judy was really great.
I liked her performance. I thought she was like really
in it. She felt like a good blend of the
two of them, and so that really worked for me.
I would not want an entire franchise featuring her.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
And Supernatural did try to do that with the wind
Chester This spinoff didn't work, but will be interesting to
see what happens next. Obviously, James jan has been making
crazy movies like Malignant. He did his at time Inquaman.
It's gonna be interesting to see where New Line and
Warner Brothers go next because this has been one of
their biggest successes.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
But yeah, thank you guys so much for coming on
and talking about.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
The Conjuring Last Rites, which I believe will be out
this weekend.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Oh yes, can we do a quick ranking?
Speaker 4 (13:46):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Good idea? Oh now, yeah, common.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Man Joel R.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
Yeah, yeah, okay, I think we're can agree Conjuring one
best contrast?
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Yeah, okay, done, I agree Conjuring two.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
Where's that fall on your list?
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Carmen.
Speaker 6 (14:01):
I have to say this is going to be controversial, y'all,
but one of the most memorable movies for me from
this whole franchise was the first Annabel movie. Oh ba,
first Conjuring Annabel, and then I would put Conjuring two
right after that first Anibal. I actually really liked that
first Annibal.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
Back doing in the Annabel movies is chaotic because first
of all, so fast. It's an insane amount of annabel movies.
I think the first one is okay, the second one
is great. But if I'm just gonna do conjuring movies,
I would do one, two, Last Rites, and then Devil
Make Me do It. Delby it was just okay.
Speaker 7 (14:39):
I forgot about Devil.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
Makes because it is forgettable, Devil will make Me do it.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
It leans into more of the problematic elements where it's
based on a real case.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
I would also say that it.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Is kind of wild when you look at what the
movies are in the franchise, because you have the Conjuring
came out in twenty thirteen, Annabelle twenty fourteen, Conjuring two
twenty sixteen, annabel Creation twenty seventeen, What about the Nun?
What about old Valac? None of you remembering her? The
Cannabel Comes Home twenty nineteen, where I believe that McKenna
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grace was actually Judy in that one, and then the
Conjuring Devil Made Me do it, the Nun too, and
the Conjuring Last Rites. So it is a huge franchise.
But I'm glad you mentioned Annabelle because I think that
for a lot of people that was also another in
road and she's such a famous kind of character and
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American piece of folklore.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
And now mister Beast bought her, so we can just
hope that she will haunt him forever.
Speaker 6 (15:42):
God, mister Beast, haunt that man.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Okay, well, let's go to break as we all ponder
mister Beast's increasing role in our daily lives, and we'll
be back to discuss the switch too.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
And we're back to talk about the switch to the
newest console from the popular Nintendo company. And to join
me is the only other member of the ex R
the crew who has a switch. To Aaron korfrom a
super producer, how are you doing today.
Speaker 7 (16:31):
I'm doing great. I've smashed a bunch of bananas and
I'm ready for this conversation.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
He's ready for the Donkey Kong of it all.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
And of course we will also have Jason looking in
from the window of not having a switch to yet.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yes, I don't have one, but I'm jealous.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
You're like, I'm here and I'm sad about it.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
So yes, Aaron, you just touched on a game that
you have been playing regularly. Let's talk a little bit
about who's been smashing those bananas.
Speaker 7 (16:56):
I mean, it's the one and only DK. You know him,
you know him. Well, this Kong has a funny face.
That's not Donkey Kong. That's cranky or lanky Kong. But
I got this. I'm actually a little shocked, Rosie. When
I last week revealed to everyone that I was getting
the switch too, you said that you already had one,
and I didn't even realize. Why had you not been
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sharing that you had this switch too. I'm a little
worried you weren't into it.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Well, I wasn't I boasting. No, I actually have talked
to a.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Few of our discord members about this. I got the
switch too, and then.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Had the busiest month of my life.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
I got it for my birthday July first, and then
it was you know, I was writing the San Diego magazine,
and then I was at San Diego Comic Con.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
So it was only really in the last few weeks
that I've gotten to truly dig dig into it.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
And while I have loved playing Mario Kartworld, which is
really fun, I have yet to play Donkey Kong Bonanza.
But I loved Mario Odyssey, so I'm guessing it's a
similar kind of vibe.
Speaker 7 (17:55):
Yeah, I mean, if we want to dive right into
the Donkey Kong and the Mario card of it all.
I have barely touched Mario Kart because of how much
I enjoyed Donkey Kong Wow and Mario Odyssey was universally
a clan I mean, probably one of the top ten
games of all time at this point. Incredible level design.
There have been so many moments in Donkey Kong Bananza
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when I am like full on grinning with how much
I love the setup. Like multiple times in the first
few hours, you just find yourself in a room full
of gold, and I'm just like punching and smashing all
this gold to gain it. I don't even know what's
going on on screen. It's just like this moment of
pure jubilation as I'm collecting all this gold, like I'm
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watching I have thousands and thousands of gold coins and everything.
My wife was watching me and she's like, do you
know what's happening right now? Like what are you doing?
And I was like, it doesn't matter because every single
time I find a banana, he goes ooh banana, and
it's it is like my favorite new sound effect in
a game.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
They've found out how to dope amine Hatten yees, Well,
that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Donkey Kong Country is.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
One of my old time favorite games on the Supernintendo,
and there.
Speaker 7 (19:02):
Was there are some.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
To that, yes, and the secret levels in that were
about collecting gold and collecting gold figurines.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
I also was. I am currently in Orlando recording this for.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
A head back to LA I was stuck in the
line for the Donkey Kong Ride for like two hours
and didn't get to play it, So I've been I've
been experiencing some Donkey Kong things, but no, I've really
loved Mario catt World.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
I've loved playing as the Cow. I've loved all.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
The kind of expansive vision that it has for Mario
Catt though I will say I don't think it is
as open world as people expected. The new levels are fantastic.
It's really fun to play on free play. I'm excited
to check out Donkey Kong because I generally do prefer
his games to Mario, and I loved Mario Odyssey. I
love the idea of changing how we play a platformer.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
But the real truth and nobody is going to be.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Surprised here the games that I've really been playing are
just independent, cozy games that.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
I could have I've gotten on my other switch.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
But so here's my question, considering that worth the upgrade?
Yes or no? Like, what are the actual improvements that
you're like, Oh, this is better and I'm so glad
I did this.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
The screen is massive and the hdness of the screen
is delightful. The controllers do not drift and are much
easier to connect.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
I would say overall it is a massive improvement on
the Switch, just playability wise.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
But I would also say that in twenty twenty five,
spending four hundred and fifty dollars on an upgrade is
like a massive expense, so I can understand how it
might not seem worth it.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Aaron, have you actually put any have you actually bought
any of the upgrades for the games that you had
from the.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Switch to I will just say from here let me
just because I don't want to let go of this,
so please please. I think a lot of people are like,
I would love to get one, but is it worth it?
Screen grate like the Joysticks to me, is like you
created a problem to say you had an upgrade when
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you really switched to it's like so you you know, like.
Speaker 7 (21:13):
That's your fula. My iPhone battery died after four years.
I guess I got to buy a new one. Yeah,
that's your phone.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
So yeah, Aaron, your thoughts on how much of an
upgrade is it and what are the things where you
get in your hand? You're like, this is better, no question.
Speaker 7 (21:29):
Not enough of an upgrade yet, I mean like, yeah, literally,
I spent that four I spent five hundred to get
the bundle with Mario Kart to play Mario Kart and
Donkey Kong. Now, inevitably there will be new games that
come out. I would not be able to play on
Switch one right and that is the main reason I
figured I'm going to be buying one at some point.
Would I have been would have been better to just
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put that five hundred dollars into S and P five
hundred and come back in a couple of months and
maybe you have made some money. Maybe who knows. But
for me, I don't see a huge improvement on anything
right now. There's not been anything where I'm like, wow,
this is so much faster. I haven't gone back to
an old game yet because I hadn't been playing Switch
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games for a little bit. I've been playing a little
bit of PS five and that was about it. I've
like drifted back into playing no pun intended drift. I've
been drifting back into Slay the Spire again, like little
basic games that I haven't even touched Switched one in
a bit. So now that I'm back and switch to,
it's fun. But the funness is playing Donkey Kong Bananza
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for me. So I basically bought a five hundred dollars
video game.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Yeah, that's true. That is kind of crazy. But I
will say because I have.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
My switch account match to my old switch and my
new switch when I forgot to up because one of
the games I've been playing pretty extensively is Tiny Bookshop,
which is an incredible game, really really fun, really beautiful bah.
When I went back and played on my switch one,
I felt like it was extremely noticeable.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
I was interesting on the switch to. So I would
say that if you play games because.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
You love the visual kind of landscape and language of games,
I do think the Switch too is.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
A notable upgrade.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
But again, I have not gotten an upgrade to Taser
the Kingdom. I have not paid for any of those
big upgrades yet. So I can't talk to that aspect.
I would say, you know, who should buy a switch
to probably somebody who has a disposable income. I wouldn't
say it's like something that you desperately need to get.
Speaker 7 (23:33):
Yeah, I mean point, I would almost answer, who should
buy it? Nobody yet? Like us?
Speaker 3 (23:37):
You want like Donkey Kong.
Speaker 7 (23:39):
Right, it's amazing. It's sold over two million units, Like
it's such a huge hit. And you know, I think
that when Mario Kart first came out with it, it
dominated the video game conversation. Everyone was sharing videos of
them rail riding and doing all these shortcuts and doing
all these fun things. Rosie. I love your playing as
the cow. My main right now is Marty the Mole. Yeah,
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it's very fun. But I do feel like the conversation
has dropped off a little, and I wonder if that
is just like it's the lack of games. And I
think again, Donkey Kong is like up there with Super
Mario Odyssey. I don't think there's a ton of conversation
about it, even though it's like probably going to be
nominated for Game of the Year. I think it's right
up there with like Claire Obscurra and like it's a great,
(24:26):
great game. But I do think the conversation has died
a little and right now we're getting like the things
that are in the news. Jason, you'll appreciate this. Elden
Ring Tarnish Edition is supposed to like Struggle in the
portable mode. Now, I'm not buying.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
It as anybody And by the way, is anybody fucking surprised?
Speaker 8 (24:43):
Right?
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Let me just say this. If you are buying the
Switch at this point to play ported Triple A's stop
right there and go get anything else, get a place,
get a PS five, get an Xbox, whatever, and don't
don't do that, because, to literally no one's surprise, Eldering
(25:07):
doesn't run on switch.
Speaker 7 (25:10):
On the switch now, I'm sure when it's docked it
will be fine, but it also runs fine on the
computer or the PS five. I do think if you're
looking forward to Silk Song, that will play fine on
switch too. I think if you're looking forward to Final
Fantasy Tactics the remake, I'm sure that'll run really well.
That's also a game from nineteen ninety seven, so I
hope it runs well on a twenty twenty five platform.
(25:34):
I think you're buying switch To for Metroid Prime four,
you're buying it for maybe Pokemon Legends, you're buying it
for the Dusk Bloods which is coming out, and you're
buying it for Zelda and Mario when they show up.
So I think that's the big pull. And how many,
like how many platform specific games are you specifically buying
(25:55):
PS five four? I mean it's just to play the
big games. Anyways, I think I don't know, maybe that's
that's okay.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Well, I've got a hot take for you guys too.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
I remember when they first announced the Switch and everyone
was absolutely dragging it, like who wants this? Nobody asked
for this, and the Switch had like a relative you know,
it sold well, But is the switch to just gonna?
Speaker 9 (26:16):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Following the switches model?
Speaker 4 (26:19):
The Switch needed the game and it happened because of
all the weird things that happened because of COVID, because
of lockdown.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
The game was Animal Crossing, and that is when the
Switch became that.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
The original Switch launched with Breath of the Wild, and
that's why I do love Breath Wild. Yeah, and that's
why I clamored for it, and that's why I pulled
every string I could get to get one and was
(26:53):
very happy again and it's a fantastic As soon as
a new Zelda appears on switch To then I will
consider buying one.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Let me, let me adapt my take because my brain
is like a sieve that doesn't work on this. It's
about like a comic book issue and who drew it.
But like I guess, for me, I saw the general
public outside of gaming conversation and purchase ability of the
switch and who was buying it and how much they
were selling of the switch. When Animal Crossing came out,
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that was like that gave it, I guess a second
wave of probably like popularity. I guess because it didn't
launch with something as groundbreaking and different as Breath of
the Wild.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Maybe we're still.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
Waiting for that first kind of wave and then obviously
hopefully that that will continue with more games. But I
don't know now if there is a Breath of the
Wild or even Animal Crossing new Leaf kind of crossings, Pokemon.
Speaker 7 (27:51):
Legends, Yeah, I mean that will sell units. Pokemon will
sell units, even if it's.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
None of those. I love the Switch Pokemon games.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
It's really gotten me back into Pokemon, the kind of
more open world nature of them, but they have not
necessarily been widely beloved or particularly seen as running well
on the Switch, so I'll be interested to see how
that changes.
Speaker 7 (28:16):
One quick news story to hit on. There have been
rumors that Switch to developer kits are really difficult to get,
and a lot of developers have reached out to Nintendo
and they're saying, like, just use the switch one for
right now. Ah So a lot of like indie and
big name developers are unable to develop for Switch too yet,
which is strange considering the system has sold so well.
(28:37):
We are still getting new things coming. So I think
that it will have plenty of exciting, very good games.
I do think right now, if you are not someone
who like Rosie or I grew up with the original
Donkey Kong Country, if you're not dying to play Donkey
Kong right now, wait a little bit. It will still
be there and it will still be great, and you
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can find thousands of later in six months when there's
another game you're really excited about.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Okay, to the both of you, what is your what
is the number one independent game that you guys are
playing on the non Nintendo game that you're playing on
the switch.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
To mine what mine has been.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
I have been playing Tiny book Shop, but honestly, there
are so many fantastic games on there. I have purchased
multiple games. I actually, controversially have been deeply get enjoying
Tales of the Shia, which everyone says is really bad.
But I don't think it's really bad. I think it's
just a cozy game, but with a big ip, so
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people who don't usually play them are now playing them,
so that one has been really good for me. I
think Tiny Bookshop is a masterpiece, though, and I think
people will come to see it that way the longer
it is on there.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Aaron, how about you?
Speaker 7 (29:50):
I have played two games on the Nintendo Switch to,
Donkey Kong and Mario Kart, So I step out of
this question.
Speaker 9 (29:56):
Can I?
Speaker 4 (29:56):
I've got a question for you guys. Then let's end
on a silly one conspiracy theory. What are the what's
the likelihood that the scarcity worries about the switch to
massively drove up the purchase ability and purchasing of them
because it was very easy to get my switch to
in the end, do you think that had a big
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impact on how much it's sold?
Speaker 3 (30:19):
At launch?
Speaker 7 (30:21):
It was very difficult for me to get one. I
tried multiple times going to local redealers and they would
have one or they would have none, and then I
finally ordered one online. Actually, thank you to big box stores.
I guess. I know that's a bad take, but it
came in and yes, a Boo has a really good
point in the chat, and this is why I bought
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it recently too, the possibility of tariffs hitting and it
going up in price. Sure, it made me want to
get it sooner rather than later, so that definitely I
think has helped sales.
Speaker 9 (30:54):
Well.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Thank you very much for joining me on here, where
I had probably my funniest bad take of all time.
I love Zelda Link, don't come after me.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
I like you and your sexy fish boyfriend just as
much as the next person. Let's head to a break
and we will sludge it up with my chat with
Toxic Avenger director Mae com Blair.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Hi, Rosie Carmen, how's it going. It's going very well,
Nice to talk to you all.
Speaker 10 (31:34):
Yeah, I'm really excited. I'm a huge I'm a huge
Trauma fan.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
But also I actually love.
Speaker 10 (31:41):
Like all your work.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
You're great.
Speaker 11 (31:43):
I'm I'm like the world's Biggest swamp Thing fan, So
I love you as a stranger. Yeah, it's like a
role I really loved and just had a lot of
a lot of fun with. So I was stoked to
get the chance to chat to you about this, but
also just to say, Hi.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
That's so kind, thank you. I fuck one thing is
my favorite and I was so I just over the
moon that I got to work on that.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
It was.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
It was so so fun. I was really hoping that
they would do another.
Speaker 11 (32:18):
It was truly an early part of the wild kind
of media landscape that we're living in now, where.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
You're like, is it gonna get made?
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Is it gonna keep going?
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Like nobody knows.
Speaker 9 (32:27):
It was such a big like the set for the Smalls,
and I couldn't imagine that they would do that whole
thing and then not.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Double down on it. But yeah, that was kind of
you to say thank you. Yeah.
Speaker 11 (32:40):
No, I feel and I feel like there is like
a kinship between like swamp Thing and Toxic Avenger and
kind of these like not supposed to be hero heroes
who kind of find their own ways. Could you talk
a little bit about your first experience with like Toxic
Avenger and Troma and and kind of finding those as
I'm assuming a young, young, aspiring filmmaker.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
You assume correctly, And that's exactly what it was. It
was the.
Speaker 9 (33:09):
Mid to late eighties, and you know, my buddy's older
brother was like, you got to check this movie out.
And it was very, very formative because we happened to
see it at just the right age where that sort
of the sense of humor, you know, it kind of
has like a sophomoric quality to it.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
We were just the right age to sort of appreciate that.
Speaker 9 (33:32):
And it was also right at the time when we
had just gotten our hands on a VHS camera. It's
kind of new and exciting at the time, and we
were figuring out how to make our own movies. And
this was the first Toxic Avenger.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Seeing it was at least that I can think of,
one of the first, if not the first movies that
I was like, oh shit, it looks like they like
just made this on their own, like.
Speaker 9 (33:55):
Just out in a street that it was like studio
movies and Holly would and movies were magical and huge
and very and this was like I think they just
ran around their town and did it themselves and It
was very empowering in that sense, and then also the
tone and the vibe of it, where.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Like, you know, you rip off somebody's arm and that's
a joke became We sort.
Speaker 9 (34:19):
Of absorbed that into the movies that we were trying
to make at that time, and so at in a
foundational way, it was. It kind of carried a lot
of weight for us.
Speaker 11 (34:29):
Yeah, what was the I mean, this is kind of
I feel like this is a as somebody who like
loves the Toxical Lender, I feel like maybe this is
kind of a silly question because I would have just
been like, yeah, I'd love to welcome that, But what
was it about the about toxy and about this kind
of new vision of trauma that inspired.
Speaker 10 (34:47):
You to make this like your second kind of feature.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
They legendary got the right.
Speaker 9 (34:54):
They partnered with Trauma to get the rights in like
twenty nineteen, and they were soliciting pitches and and and
I was one of the people that they that they
talked to about it. And my first thought, if I'm
being really honest, was kind of like, Toxic Avenger is
this singular like it it endures and it's loved because
it's this it's got this trauma quality.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
What the fuck are we doing? But then it occurred
to me that, like.
Speaker 9 (35:19):
I went back to them and said, actually, I would
like to pitch it because I had been trying to write.
I had written several scripts and was trying to get
them get them made, and they all had and I
didn't realize it at the time. They had this kind
of trauma sort of quality where it's there's a monster
at the center, and it's it's very funny and it's
kind of sweet, but there's like gore that's played for laughs,
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all these sort of ingredients, but they weren't based on anything,
and so they were never made. They weren't going to
get sold, and all of a sudden they were like
toxic Avenger. And it occurred to me like, this is
kind of that type of thing that I've been trying
to do, but it's attached to an ip that could
actually get made. So that was very alluring, and I
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went in and started pitching, not story ideas or anything,
but just general sort of this is how I would
approach it. And honestly, I was kind of expecting at
any moment like this is not going to work. They're
just gonna be like we wanted to be a PG.
Thirteen or are gritty or whatever it was. And to
my surprise, they responded to what I was saying, which
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is that like it should be a person in a suit,
it should be rated R, it should be very silly,
you should have like a juvenile sensitive humor. It should
be kind of sweethearted in certain ways, and just thinking
the whole way. At any moment they're going to be like, nah,
I do That's not what we want. But they said yet,
And then I was like, oh shit, I guess I've
got to write it now, so I.
Speaker 10 (36:48):
Gotta make it. But what does that feel like?
Speaker 8 (36:51):
Because the movie is so unique and it totally feels
like it is and this is like incredibly kind of
just singular, but it really does feel exactly like what
it is, which is a Troma movie made in the
twenty twenties.
Speaker 11 (37:09):
What did it feel like to actually get to make
it and have I love the way that you use
the mop and kind of the big gory fun shots
like when you were actually getting to make it and
make it in a way that still felt like a
B movie, still felt like a kind of rebellious version
of cinema. What did that feel like is you were
kind of going through the actual process of making the film.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
I was talking earlier about how like we saw the
movie when we were kids, this group of friends and
it's a group of friends that we're still friends with today.
Speaker 9 (37:44):
We had a little group and we called our production
company but Stupid Pictures. And so now I'm in Bulgaria
on this big set that's where they're building rooms that
I've sort of designed and talked about, and there's famous
Hollywood actors that are here and they're saying and on
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one level during the day you have to be I
felt like, okay, this is like we're here to do
a job, and this is where super professional and here
we go. And yet there were moments where I had
to text my buddies. I was like, they're letting me
make a fucking but stupid.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Movie on like Hollywood terms.
Speaker 9 (38:27):
And at any moment I was like, someone is going
to come over here and say that, like you have
to go home, you're fired.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
And it never happened. It was really.
Speaker 9 (38:36):
It was very surreal and kind and so much fun.
Just like it was very easy just to be like
what a dream job to get to you know, make
a movie like this that sort of like it feels
like I was getting to go back to junior high school,
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my old buddies, you know, and and a movie on
a VHS camera, except for with these awesome professionals.
Speaker 11 (39:06):
And I was going to say, it's not just like
an incredible professionals behind the screen.
Speaker 10 (39:09):
But you have you know, Pia Dinklic playing Toxi.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
You have Kevin Bacon, Elijah.
Speaker 11 (39:15):
Wood obviously, Like what was it like putting the cast
together and finding that right balance of people who just would.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
Totally go for it.
Speaker 9 (39:25):
I mean, in some cases I wrote the parts for
the person. Elijah Wood's character, I wrote specifically for him
with him on a on a movie previously, and and
we just became good buds, and I really felt like
he would be so fun as an unrecognizable bad guy.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
So it was very specifically for him.
Speaker 10 (39:50):
Uh.
Speaker 9 (39:51):
And then some of the others were just kind of
like we we knew that we were going to need
some kind of a name to be the villain, and
so it was you know, we had discussions about who
that could be, and you have no expectation that people
are ever going to even respond, let alone say yes.
But Kevin Bacon was one that I thought of that like,
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I just think he's extremely funny and I people when
they think of Kevin Bacon, they instantly say like, oh, comedy,
but but but he's fucking funny as hell. So we
offered to him and I was like, he's probably not
This is not going to be his speed. He wrote back,
maybe not the same day, but it was like within
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twenty four hours and not even like let's meet.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
It was like I want to do this.
Speaker 9 (40:40):
And so when stuff like that happens, it's it just
it feels like a gift, Like what a Yeah, we
were talking about the professionals.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
Behind the camera, but you've got on fide American. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (40:55):
I mean, like who else has a game about how
many movies they've been in but him. It's really kind
of I was just kind of overwhelmed with the with gratitude,
I don't know how else to say it.
Speaker 10 (41:11):
Yeah, it must have been a really interesting situation too,
because watching the movie, I was just like, I don't, like,
I feel like movies.
Speaker 11 (41:19):
Like this just don't get made, like, let alone movies
like this with incredible stars and stuff.
Speaker 10 (41:25):
So how does it kind of feel?
Speaker 11 (41:26):
Because obviously it's also making the movie you start talked
about twenty nineteen. Then with twenty twenty we got hit
with COVID, and then we're all trying to live through
the pandemic and people are making stuff, but you got
to do it in a safe way, and then there's
the strikes. And so how does it feel now, like
six years later, to be because obviously showed it a
fantastic fest. I was getting many texts from many friends.
(41:49):
I was very jealous after they went to that screening,
just being like, it's so good, we're gonna love it.
And how does it feel now to be like talking
about it and getting ready to kind of everyone to
be able to see it.
Speaker 9 (42:02):
I'm gonna sound like a broken record, but it's just
it's kind of dizzying in some ways. It feels like
so long ago, and in getting ready for the release
where they're kind of like, you know, they're putting together
special features for the Blu ray and stuff, and so
I'm going back and looking at all these old photos
and old videos and just stuff from back then, and
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it feels like in some ways a lifetime ago.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
And so it's kind of strange for it to be
it's like a friend you haven't seen since.
Speaker 9 (42:33):
High school and you're kind of like, we're gonna go
on a road trip together, Like I hope we're still friends.
But it's just been incredibly exciting. And I think a
big part of that is that center verse. You never
really know how the movie. Once it's done, your access
of control over it is. It kind of ends and
(42:55):
it's sort of hands and so I was kind of like,
know because it is it doesn't totally fit into a
mainstream sort of what's popular right now, and it just
doesn't and that's okay. But I was kind of assuming,
if I'm being honest, that it was going to kind
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of evaporate into the streaming landscape out there, and that
was that. But then cinemas comes along and they want
to put it in theaters, they want to do this
and that and really seem to respond to it in
the way that I was hoping. And so it's been
this sort of like, oh, it was on the shelf
for two years. But the silver lining of that, which
(43:38):
I wouldn't trade for anything, is that it landed at
a place like this where they're a loving, full throated release.
Speaker 8 (43:46):
Ye And.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
You know, I just I couldn't ask for a better
final chapter.
Speaker 11 (43:56):
Yeah, I mean, I live in I live in LA,
so I'm very lucky because we like so many fantastic
Rep cinemas here and Colt cinemas here. Even in South
LA where I live, we have a Guardina Cinema. So
I'm really I feel like it's really going to be
able to find a home in those kind of places
where people will still go and watch the original Toxic
a Benja, you know, an original Tromamrathons and stuff.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
Too, exactly, I mean, And that's the sort of like
idea was.
Speaker 9 (44:21):
And I always try to sort of when we're talking
about it to try to get this in, which is
the idea that this is not, was never intended, never
wants to be anything that.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
Sort of replaces the originals to me.
Speaker 9 (44:35):
In addition, too, in the same way that like, you know,
the Christian Bale batman does not replace the Adam West batman.
Speaker 10 (44:41):
They're both there, they both exist, and they're both good
and get.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
Both exist and they both doing their own thing.
Speaker 9 (44:46):
And like you know, maybe there'll be more interpretations and
iterations of Toxic in the future, which would be great,
But it's like if if this. If all it does
is turn people onto the originals which are available, you know,
they just had the four K release and everything, then
that would be great.
Speaker 3 (45:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (45:08):
Also I know that I'll be getting a theatrical release
is so incredible and I'm so glad that's right. And
but I will say, just there's somebody who writes about
this stuff who loves B movies. I do think that
nowadays Chub is essentially like a new home for B movies,
Like they're making incredible B movies people can self submit.
So I kind of also am excited for whenever if
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it does end up on there on.
Speaker 10 (45:33):
Like a free space.
Speaker 11 (45:34):
I feel like this could really blow up in that
way of like people finding it just because it's free
and available on TV, which is kind of a new
version of how we found like borrowing vhs from each
other or just seeing something that was being like rerun.
So I think it's got an exciting secondary part of
its release coming.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
To Yeah, I mean to me, it's great. Did do
you have Canopy?
Speaker 10 (45:56):
I love Canopy and Hoop, I love I love the library,
So can is incredible.
Speaker 9 (46:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's great. But yes, I love those
sort of like open access avenues to for people to
discover different things.
Speaker 10 (46:11):
So yeah, okay, finally, I just I don't want to
miss without talking back. She's so great.
Speaker 11 (46:17):
Could you talk a little about Taylor Page and crafting
that kind of new character because she's just such a
standout and this was really in that beginning of her
career with like Zola and stuff, So could you just
talk about finding her?
Speaker 1 (46:29):
She was so cool, That's what it was. Was.
Speaker 9 (46:34):
I had just Sola, and I was kind of like
we kind of wanted this character to kind of offset Winston.
So he's the main character, but he's also very disorganized
and he doesn't have his act together, and he doesn't.
Speaker 1 (46:50):
Have his courage yet. You know, he's sort of he
he needed some not a sidekick, but like a moral example.
Speaker 9 (46:58):
And that was yeah, so we sort of like let
her do some of the heavy lifting as far as
like taking action and kind of being a badass and
and sort of like taking matters into her own hands.
And by proximity, he he learns that from her, like
I mean, he gets mutated, of course, but just sort
of like what to do next comes from her. And
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I just thought she did a great job as far
as being like very subtle and very relatable, but like
you kind of buy that she would, that she would
be this sort of capable, action oriented character, and it
was just one of those things. I met with her
(47:44):
and we offered it to her very quickly, and she
jumped on board, and it was just, you know, it's
sort of like it's always a leap of faith if
you haven't worked with somebody before, like I live cool.
And she was such an asset of the movie and
just a lot of fun to hang out with, but
also just yeah, brought it on camera every day, a
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lot of physical stuff, rounding and jumping and stuff, and
she was really excited for that too.
Speaker 10 (48:11):
She ups the like cool factor.
Speaker 11 (48:13):
I feel like if a teen watches the movie and
it's quite silly, they're going to be like, okay, but
I would that's who I would.
Speaker 8 (48:18):
Be like in this role.
Speaker 9 (48:20):
That was my hope was that, like, you know, Winston
is sort of like the underdog who sort of like
figures out a path, but she's like the cool one
who is cool from the first time you see her.
Speaker 1 (48:33):
You know, she's cool from scene one to the end
of the movie.
Speaker 3 (48:37):
Yeah, thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (48:38):
I appreciate this.
Speaker 3 (48:39):
This is so awesome.
Speaker 10 (48:40):
What would your We have a really lovely passionate fan based.
Speaker 11 (48:44):
X ray vision, a lot of whom want to make movies,
So what would like your number one tip be as
someone who's making movies with your pals, Like, what's the
best thing for people who want to just make something?
Speaker 1 (48:54):
I think surrounding the community aspect cannot be understated.
Speaker 9 (48:59):
So surrounding your self with people that are supportive and
you can work on their stuff, they can work on
your stuff.
Speaker 1 (49:04):
That is the only reason that I get to do
what I get to do today is because of that.
That's sort of how I started.
Speaker 9 (49:10):
That group of friends that I was talking about came
up together and sort of that's that's how it worked.
Speaker 1 (49:17):
So that's a big part of it.
Speaker 9 (49:18):
I also think it's it's keeping as many things on
the stove as possible. I'm not saying this is the path,
but for me, like I was trying to write scripts
while also going on auditions, while also helping out on
other people's movies, and I think like having a lot
of different balls in the air ends up serving you
well because you never know which one is going to.
Speaker 1 (49:42):
Work.
Speaker 10 (49:43):
Yeah, no, I really answered the constant pitch life.
Speaker 11 (49:45):
I make comic books and I'm pitching like fifty cos
all the time. Yeah, that would never get made, but
sometimes they do.
Speaker 1 (49:52):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 9 (49:53):
And so if you put all your eggs in one basket,
it can be crushing when it doesn't work.
Speaker 1 (49:56):
But if you have you know, it's a little easier
to be like, ah, fuck it, that one didn't more.
I'll pivot to this for a while.
Speaker 11 (50:01):
And so, yeah, thank you so much. I appreciate it
was great to chat to you. And yeah, congrats and
have a great day.
Speaker 10 (50:10):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (50:10):
Hope to see you.
Speaker 2 (50:14):
Okay, let's welcome all the super producers back into the
chat to discuss their rex for this weekend. Carmel, let's
start with you. What are you? What are you get
me up to?
Speaker 6 (50:25):
You know, I'm gonna I'm gonna cop out a little
bit here. I had a really crazy busy weekend this
past week and I ended up at dragon Con with
no plan to be there, just ended up there. But
I want to rest this weekend. And Rosie has been
texting me a lot about the Tales of the Shire
game and I'm sold on it. I'm going to be
downloading Tales of the Shire this weekend, and yes, we're
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covering and resting, and I'm gonna let you know how
I feel about it next week.
Speaker 2 (50:53):
That's also Joelle.
Speaker 3 (50:54):
This is so wild.
Speaker 1 (50:55):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (50:56):
So my brother and I were rachilling watching TV and
we got through Netflix and we were like, let me
just see what's in the sitcoms on Netflix right now.
So we're perusing through two thousand sitcoms and we stumble
upon The Bernie Mac Show and I was like, oh God, damn,
this show used to be so funny.
Speaker 3 (51:12):
I think I'm just gonna been to the Brady Mac
Show this week.
Speaker 5 (51:15):
I think I'm just going to relive two thousands glory.
We lost one way too soon, So I'm excited to
just live in sitcom binge mode for a weekend to
be fun.
Speaker 7 (51:26):
Aaron, weady for seven hours of no longer commercial free.
Speaker 1 (51:38):
It is opening.
Speaker 7 (51:40):
By the time you're hearing this, we will have had
the first game of the NFL season. I'm a huge
NFL fan.
Speaker 2 (51:46):
Here we go.
Speaker 7 (51:47):
There are a lot of great storylines this year. Some
of them also involve pop stars getting engaged, but that's
totally fine. It's the big year.
Speaker 3 (51:57):
Okay, Aaron. You know, take your guess right now, who's
going to win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 7 (52:02):
I would love to say the Buffalo Bills, who are
my team, but I know better than that.
Speaker 2 (52:06):
It's a crucial, crucial season for.
Speaker 7 (52:08):
Them, exactly. I mean another obviously, Kelsey and Taylor Stift
got engaged, but Josh Allen, don't forget, got married to
our star of Sinners and Hawkeye and Spider.
Speaker 2 (52:21):
Verse, Filipino Philipino clubs of top culture today.
Speaker 7 (52:27):
So you know, look, I'm a huge Bills fan. I
would love for them to do well. It would be
great to be able to watch a Bill's Super Bowl
with my dad. I think the winners will be the Eagles.
They're just there. They were so good last year and
they are going to remain incredible. Really excited for the
fantasy season, excited to see all the rookies, and a
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little bummed by some of the media changes that have happened.
But you know, we'll see. If I don't know if
anyone watches Red Zone, which used to be seven hours
of commercial free football, and it will now be seven
hours of football.
Speaker 3 (52:59):
Three hours of four hours of commercials.
Speaker 7 (53:03):
It'll be full seven hours, but it'll have a lot
of a lot of commercial snuck in there. But yes,
that will be my life for the next until February,
will be every weekend watching football.
Speaker 3 (53:13):
I'm excited, Jason, how about you?
Speaker 2 (53:16):
I started a dead Wood rewatch kind of randomly because
I was out of i'd come to the end of
other shows I've been watching. Other shows I'm watching include
the current season of Below Deck include. Other seasons of
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Below Deck include n y see the Next Gen on
Bravo include and now include Deadwood, which I'm up to
the third episode of season one and it's fantastic and
it's great, and it stuck me right back in your
duality of what we do I love, I mean dead
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What is this close in my opinion, in my opinion
to Shakespeare that we have on television.
Speaker 8 (54:08):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (54:08):
One more, Yeah, I'll just add one more thing. Because
I am learning Spanish, I found this comedy YouTube channel
that some of their sketches got adapted by Comedy Central
Mexico and it's called Backdoor and a lot of their
sketches are just really funny in the Spanish in Spanish
and are really hilarious.
Speaker 3 (54:26):
Oh I love that.
Speaker 4 (54:28):
For me, I am going to be finishing up a
really really fun book by one of my favorite.
Speaker 3 (54:33):
Authors, Sarah Rawley.
Speaker 4 (54:35):
This is something I actually was so surprised when I saw,
because I somehow admissed that they were doing it. But
Valley in the Comic Company is actually publishing a universe
of superhero novels and Sarah did the Live Wire on
and it is just so great and I'm really really
excited to have that kind of as my thing to
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read as I have back into La and I'm happy
to be home and probably just also doing Halloween Hora
Nights again when I.
Speaker 3 (55:04):
Get back to La. Yay, Mudhouses. I love them. Thanks guys,
thanks for coming to the group chat.
Speaker 2 (55:11):
Well that's it for this episode. Thanks for listening to
Movie Back.
Speaker 3 (55:13):
Tomorrow with News News Bye.
Speaker 2 (55:22):
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Speaker 4 (55:27):
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Speaker 2 (55:31):
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Speaker 11 (55:33):
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Warning.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
On this episode of XRGC, we will be giving you
spoilers for the Conjuring series in general, and will include
a spoiler free review of its latest entry, The Conjuring
Last Rights. You are warned. Hello, my name is Jason Caccepcio.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
And I'm t Pey No, I'm Mersey night.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
As an inside joke for in Front of View though,
and welcome to XRGC, our weekly roundtable chat with our
producers and or special guests talk about all the things
we're excited about currently in movies, TVs, comics and pop culture.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
In today's episode, we are talking about the Conjuring series
and its final entry, Last Rights with our Queen Queen's
Joel and Common. In segment two, me and Aaron are
gonna be talking about the Nintendo switch to what do
we think so far? Is it worth it? Do we
love it? Have we upgraded any games? You will find out?
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And in segment three, the and or special guest is
coming in and it's Making Blair, who is the director
of the new cult hit The Toxic Avenger based on
the classic Troma series. And as always on XRGC, we
will end with thank Galactus.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
It's Friday. And share what we are most excited to
do this weekend.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
But first, Joel and Carmon, you saw the final installment
of the Conjuring franchise, The Conjuring Last Rights. Let me
conjure you here so you can tell us about it.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
Okay, let's do a really quick just overview, non spoiler. Okay,
the Warrens are back and they're forced out of retirement
by their over your daughter, who, just by two decades
of being stalked by demon still manages to be lured
into a trap. Fans in the film Triser could despair
and delight in equal measure. In this uneven conclusion to
a mostly enjoyable series, we're back and forth with a
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giant family living in a small, unassuming house that quickly
turns violent on anyone who dares to try to dispel
the demon. The spirits are sufficiently creepy. The dolls are
moving without assistance, and it's imperative that if you cannot
see the speaker of the person talking to you, you
need to assume it's a demon and they're luring you
to your death. Unfortunately, there is an hour and a
half act one. Okay, it is an hour and half
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Warren's get to the Smirrel family home.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
It is an unbearably.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
Long slog where we spend tons of time with Judy
Warren and her boyfriend and we worry over Ed Warren's
heart problems. The film is just kind of hell bent
on the Warrens being like these pioneering heroes who were
scarred by their close brushes with demonic forces, which is
an angle you can take, but in order to explore
the filmmakers really needed to engage in any number of
the controversy surrounding the Warrens, the flesh and blood humans
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impacted by their actions. But instead an hour and a half,
the well meaning family dribble with mostly predictable scares. This
is director Michael chaff As, his third film with Blumhouse.
He did The Curse of La Youirona, The Conjuring, The
Devil Made Me Do It, and The Nun too. If
you like any of those films, you'll probably have a
good time at The Conjuring Last Rites. Those are my thoughts, Carmen,
how did you enter and leave the cana?
Speaker 6 (03:24):
Yes, I you know what I was actually despite you know,
I thought like the poster looks kind of wonky. I
thought some of the marketing looks kind of wonky.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
I was like, you know, I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Though, I'm excited for Love the Conjrs.
Speaker 6 (03:37):
Yeah, I'm excited for this final chapter in the Conjuring franchise.
I do think it is a horror franchise that kind
of defined the twenty tens, like the late the late
I don't know exactly when the first Conjuring came out,
but the twenty tens, it really kind of it kind
of like set the bar for horror during that era.
I think my first thought, and what I shared with
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the group earlier, is that I think we're in a
different era of horror now, where like we're concerned about
different things, We're using different types of scares, we're using
different camera techniques, we're different storytelling altogether. This series to
me is, you know, just classicor And I think that
this movie was fun once you get through all of
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the family drama, all of the romance, all of the like,
I was just like, can we get to the scares?
Can we can we get to the haunted house stuff?
There were times where I forgot I was watching a
horror movie.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Does it have good scares?
Speaker 5 (04:38):
Okay, Carmen and I were texting about some of the
scares and we don't want to spoil anything, but the
doll scares are really good. I think the zested item,
I could say, this's not make it as well. It's
a mirror and the mirror is freaking creepy. I was like,
how could this this mirror proto?
Speaker 6 (04:55):
They spoil that in the trailer, and I will to
you that was my favorite. Was my favorite horror set piece,
which is the wedding dress like mirrored angle.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
Yeah, they should not have shown that in the trailer.
Speaker 6 (05:06):
Yeah, they spoiled it in the trailer, so I was
bummed about that, but yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
Yeah, And I think the house works pretty good. It's
a little upset. It's almost like the house in uh,
the First Conjuring, which I really love that house. It's
just so normal and it makes it like six times creepier.
This one's a little more run down. It's like blocks
from a giant factory you.
Speaker 7 (05:26):
Live in like Veigar.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Basically, yes, it's like.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
It's like sat in mid Guar, totally Central America.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
And I think, like for me a man again, the
ghoulies are pretty cool, Like Carmen was comparing the character
design of like one axe wielding Ghoulie to Resident Evil.
Speaker 7 (05:48):
What was it five seven seven?
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Yeah, and Welcome to the Family Sun.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
Yes, so it's working on that level. There's and there's
a couple of really good like oh my god, no,
there is a famous Hollywood actor from a bygone era
who plays a huge part in being a horror element
that it's very shocking and very funny. If you know
anything about the actor, you're like, wow, appropriate.
Speaker 6 (06:13):
Maybe I didn't know about this actor.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
Oh, we'll talk about him after, which I really enjoyed.
But I think, overall, to Carmen's point in our actual
group chat, predictable. If you've seen any of these movies before,
you know exactly it's like, oh, we're being lured into
the dark.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Oh, we're going into the basement.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
That's where all the bad things happened. Like it's formulaic,
and yet I love it. I was like squealing with
delight at times and other times I was checking my
watch like it's so back and forth, uneven, but I
still had a good time.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Yeah. I was gonna say, Jason, what, like, what's your.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Experience of the conjuring? Like, what was the first time
you ever watched it, and like, what did you feel?
Speaker 2 (06:55):
I saw the first Conjuring via Netflix. I believe Wow
DVD era like Wow, like mail it in in the
in the.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Ya tells you how long these films have been going on.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
By the way, produce Peter Saffran producing made a bucket,
bucket load of money, as we all know. I think
twenty million dollar budget over three hundred million dollar return.
And you're right, Carmen, like this redefined jump scares and
the jump scare as like the primary style of horror
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for that era, because it was like the jump scare
was back, baby, and it was getting you, Like I don't.
I know, my wife makes fun of me because I
don't scare easily. I watch horror movies at night and
then I go right to sleep. They don't bother me.
I don't get scared like hardly ever ever ever. But
like you know, I twitched, there was some of the
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jump scares in the first two are so so good,
and I agree with you too that it feels like
we're in a different era, a more like met textual,
self referential, intellectual era, social commentary era of horror that
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is really good too. But there was something so pure
about The Conjuring and and other movies of that era.
Emily the first Emily Rose movie, where it's just like, hey,
scary fucking house, there's something in there, you know, you know,
demon Investigators, we got.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
To check it out.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
Jane Doe is another good one. All these like really
contained haunted house like movies.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Yes, old school, really scary, And that's what I think
of when I think of The Conjuring. I can't believe
how long the series has been going on. I don't
necessarily think that the the others for two have been
as powerfreight, although they all have their moments, but you know,
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there is really no magic, like a very pure horror
movie like the first two Conjurings, where it's just like, yes,
it's a formula. Yes, the story is so simple, it's
like dumb, dumb. And yet when they pull you into
the dark and they go to that shot where you're
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seeing behind the character, now, oh yeah, yeah, and you were,
and and the feeling of like the tension in your
shoulders start to come up because you're like, is something
going to appear there or not. It's a great feeling.
And the Conjuring gave me those.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Yeah, and I think the thing about the first Conjuring
movie as well, not only did it spark this, as
Jason mentioned, like crazy money franchise, I think the biggest
horror franchise of old time is the Conjuring Bus. Two
point eighty billion dollars it's made altogether, and I'm this
one will add to it. But also the first Conjuring
movie is very rare because it was rated R just
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for how scary it was. There actually isn't very much language,
there's barely any gore. A lot of the temppoles for
what they would usually given R rating for were not
hit and James one was originally aiming for a PG thirteen,
but it got the R rating because they were like,
it's too scary. We can't pretend this is kid friendly.
And I think that that is kind of a representation
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of just how out of fashion the.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Kind of jump scare, slow creep movie was before this.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
And yeah, it changed horror forever. But now, as you
guys have said twelve years later post a twenty four,
you know, especially with a controversial couple like the Warrens
who have had you know, sexual abuse allegations against them,
who have had these kind of personal scandals. In a
modern horror movie, they would probably be the villains, but
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here they have portrayed as the heroes. I think that's
another reason why this wraps up now, you know the
and it puts in the past, and it'll be interesting
to see kind of where horror goes after this, because
every studio wants a conjuring three hundred and twenty million
plus on a forty million budget, Like come.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
On, yeah, I've been a big zero for me. The fans.
Oh yeah, I love my lady getting paid like this,
me too, you.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
She is the one like her and Patrick Wilson both
in this movie. They are so amazing and if it
wasn't for them, these movies would not be this great. Also,
I love, like you said Jason Verra, she's got her
little new metal band that she's in. She's spending the
money well on them. Patrick, he's, oh yeah, she's in
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a new metal band and she is the singer, and
she's like she does like slip knock.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Covers and stuff. And Patrick Wilson currently producing a Lost
Boys musical that's out to go on.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Broadway, so he's using his money well actually that was
my biggest question. Sorry, this is a mild spoiler depending
on you. Patrick Wilson found him.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Does Patrick Wilson sing in this Conjuring movie?
Speaker 4 (12:12):
He does not.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
There's music. Sorry, guys paying for.
Speaker 6 (12:20):
I wanted to say that, you know, I don't want
to spoil anything about the movie, but the movie does
involve a young couple that the Warren's daughter getting married,
and they seemingly kind of well both literally and metaphorically,
seem to kind of pass off the keys to the
to this new young couple. So I am curious to
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see if the Conjuring films will be rebooted.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
With this new couple.
Speaker 6 (12:47):
I don't think they have the same juice as Vera
Firminga and Patrick Wilson, but the.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
Old couple who's dedicated their lives to each other in
like after two weeks of knowing each other vibe like
this is creepy but also kind of whole. But I
will say the girl that played Judy was really great.
I liked her performance. I thought she was like really
in it. She felt like a good blend of the
two of them, and so that really worked for me.
I would not want an entire franchise featuring her.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
And Supernatural did try to do that with the wind
Chester This spinoff didn't work, but will be interesting to
see what happens next. Obviously, James jan has been making
crazy movies like Malignant. He did his at time Inquaman.
It's gonna be interesting to see where New Line and
Warner Brothers go next because this has been one of
their biggest successes.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
But yeah, thank you guys so much for coming on
and talking about.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
The Conjuring Last Rites, which I believe will be out
this weekend.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Oh yes, can we do a quick ranking?
Speaker 4 (13:46):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Good idea? Oh now, yeah, common.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Man Joel R.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
Yeah, yeah, okay, I think we're can agree Conjuring one
best contrast?
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Yeah, okay, done, I agree Conjuring two.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
Where's that fall on your list?
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Carmen.
Speaker 6 (14:01):
I have to say this is going to be controversial, y'all,
but one of the most memorable movies for me from
this whole franchise was the first Annabel movie. Oh ba,
first Conjuring Annabel, and then I would put Conjuring two
right after that first Anibal. I actually really liked that
first Annibal.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
Back doing in the Annabel movies is chaotic because first
of all, so fast. It's an insane amount of annabel movies.
I think the first one is okay, the second one
is great. But if I'm just gonna do conjuring movies,
I would do one, two, Last Rites, and then Devil
Make Me do It. Delby it was just okay.
Speaker 7 (14:39):
I forgot about Devil.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
Makes because it is forgettable, Devil will make Me do it.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
It leans into more of the problematic elements where it's
based on a real case.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
I would also say that it.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Is kind of wild when you look at what the
movies are in the franchise, because you have the Conjuring
came out in twenty thirteen, Annabelle twenty fourteen, Conjuring two
twenty sixteen, annabel Creation twenty seventeen, What about the Nun?
What about old Valac? None of you remembering her? The
Cannabel Comes Home twenty nineteen, where I believe that McKenna
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grace was actually Judy in that one, and then the
Conjuring Devil Made Me do it, the Nun too, and
the Conjuring Last Rites. So it is a huge franchise.
But I'm glad you mentioned Annabelle because I think that
for a lot of people that was also another in
road and she's such a famous kind of character and
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American piece of folklore.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
And now mister Beast bought her, so we can just
hope that she will haunt him forever.
Speaker 6 (15:42):
God, mister Beast, haunt that man.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Okay, well, let's go to break as we all ponder
mister Beast's increasing role in our daily lives, and we'll
be back to discuss the switch too.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
And we're back to talk about the switch to the
newest console from the popular Nintendo company. And to join
me is the only other member of the ex R
the crew who has a switch. To Aaron korfrom a
super producer, how are you doing today.
Speaker 7 (16:31):
I'm doing great. I've smashed a bunch of bananas and
I'm ready for this conversation.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
He's ready for the Donkey Kong of it all.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
And of course we will also have Jason looking in
from the window of not having a switch to yet.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yes, I don't have one, but I'm jealous.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
You're like, I'm here and I'm sad about it.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
So yes, Aaron, you just touched on a game that
you have been playing regularly. Let's talk a little bit
about who's been smashing those bananas.
Speaker 7 (16:56):
I mean, it's the one and only DK. You know him,
you know him. Well, this Kong has a funny face.
That's not Donkey Kong. That's cranky or lanky Kong. But
I got this. I'm actually a little shocked, Rosie. When
I last week revealed to everyone that I was getting
the switch too, you said that you already had one,
and I didn't even realize. Why had you not been
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sharing that you had this switch too. I'm a little
worried you weren't into it.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Well, I wasn't I boasting. No, I actually have talked
to a.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Few of our discord members about this. I got the
switch too, and then.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Had the busiest month of my life.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
I got it for my birthday July first, and then
it was you know, I was writing the San Diego magazine,
and then I was at San Diego Comic Con.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
So it was only really in the last few weeks
that I've gotten to truly dig dig into it.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
And while I have loved playing Mario Kartworld, which is
really fun, I have yet to play Donkey Kong Bonanza.
But I loved Mario Odyssey, so I'm guessing it's a
similar kind of vibe.
Speaker 7 (17:55):
Yeah, I mean, if we want to dive right into
the Donkey Kong and the Mario card of it all.
I have barely touched Mario Kart because of how much
I enjoyed Donkey Kong Wow and Mario Odyssey was universally
a clan I mean, probably one of the top ten
games of all time at this point. Incredible level design.
There have been so many moments in Donkey Kong Bananza
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when I am like full on grinning with how much
I love the setup. Like multiple times in the first
few hours, you just find yourself in a room full
of gold, and I'm just like punching and smashing all
this gold to gain it. I don't even know what's
going on on screen. It's just like this moment of
pure jubilation as I'm collecting all this gold, like I'm
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watching I have thousands and thousands of gold coins and everything.
My wife was watching me and she's like, do you
know what's happening right now? Like what are you doing?
And I was like, it doesn't matter because every single
time I find a banana, he goes ooh banana, and
it's it is like my favorite new sound effect in
a game.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
They've found out how to dope amine Hatten yees, Well,
that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Donkey Kong Country is.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
One of my old time favorite games on the Supernintendo,
and there.
Speaker 7 (19:02):
Was there are some.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
To that, yes, and the secret levels in that were
about collecting gold and collecting gold figurines.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
I also was. I am currently in Orlando recording this for.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
A head back to LA I was stuck in the
line for the Donkey Kong Ride for like two hours
and didn't get to play it, So I've been I've
been experiencing some Donkey Kong things, but no, I've really
loved Mario catt World.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
I've loved playing as the Cow. I've loved all.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
The kind of expansive vision that it has for Mario
Catt though I will say I don't think it is
as open world as people expected. The new levels are fantastic.
It's really fun to play on free play. I'm excited
to check out Donkey Kong because I generally do prefer
his games to Mario, and I loved Mario Odyssey. I
love the idea of changing how we play a platformer.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
But the real truth and nobody is going to be.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Surprised here the games that I've really been playing are
just independent, cozy games that.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
I could have I've gotten on my other switch.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
But so here's my question, considering that worth the upgrade?
Yes or no? Like, what are the actual improvements that
you're like, Oh, this is better and I'm so glad
I did this.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
The screen is massive and the hdness of the screen
is delightful. The controllers do not drift and are much
easier to connect.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
I would say overall it is a massive improvement on
the Switch, just playability wise.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
But I would also say that in twenty twenty five,
spending four hundred and fifty dollars on an upgrade is
like a massive expense, so I can understand how it
might not seem worth it.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Aaron, have you actually put any have you actually bought
any of the upgrades for the games that you had
from the.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Switch to I will just say from here let me
just because I don't want to let go of this,
so please please. I think a lot of people are like,
I would love to get one, but is it worth it?
Screen grate like the Joysticks to me, is like you
created a problem to say you had an upgrade when
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you really switched to it's like so you you know, like.
Speaker 7 (21:13):
That's your fula. My iPhone battery died after four years.
I guess I got to buy a new one. Yeah,
that's your phone.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
So yeah, Aaron, your thoughts on how much of an
upgrade is it and what are the things where you
get in your hand? You're like, this is better, no question.
Speaker 7 (21:29):
Not enough of an upgrade yet, I mean like, yeah, literally,
I spent that four I spent five hundred to get
the bundle with Mario Kart to play Mario Kart and
Donkey Kong. Now, inevitably there will be new games that
come out. I would not be able to play on
Switch one right and that is the main reason I
figured I'm going to be buying one at some point.
Would I have been would have been better to just
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put that five hundred dollars into S and P five
hundred and come back in a couple of months and
maybe you have made some money. Maybe who knows. But
for me, I don't see a huge improvement on anything
right now. There's not been anything where I'm like, wow,
this is so much faster. I haven't gone back to
an old game yet because I hadn't been playing Switch
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games for a little bit. I've been playing a little
bit of PS five and that was about it. I've
like drifted back into playing no pun intended drift. I've
been drifting back into Slay the Spire again, like little
basic games that I haven't even touched Switched one in
a bit. So now that I'm back and switch to,
it's fun. But the funness is playing Donkey Kong Bananza
(22:30):
for me. So I basically bought a five hundred dollars
video game.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Yeah, that's true. That is kind of crazy. But I
will say because I have.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
My switch account match to my old switch and my
new switch when I forgot to up because one of
the games I've been playing pretty extensively is Tiny Bookshop,
which is an incredible game, really really fun, really beautiful bah.
When I went back and played on my switch one,
I felt like it was extremely noticeable.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
I was interesting on the switch to. So I would
say that if you play games because.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
You love the visual kind of landscape and language of games,
I do think the Switch too is.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
A notable upgrade.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
But again, I have not gotten an upgrade to Taser
the Kingdom. I have not paid for any of those
big upgrades yet. So I can't talk to that aspect.
I would say, you know, who should buy a switch
to probably somebody who has a disposable income. I wouldn't
say it's like something that you desperately need to get.
Speaker 7 (23:33):
Yeah, I mean point, I would almost answer, who should
buy it? Nobody yet? Like us?
Speaker 3 (23:37):
You want like Donkey Kong.
Speaker 7 (23:39):
Right, it's amazing. It's sold over two million units, Like
it's such a huge hit. And you know, I think
that when Mario Kart first came out with it, it
dominated the video game conversation. Everyone was sharing videos of
them rail riding and doing all these shortcuts and doing
all these fun things. Rosie. I love your playing as
the cow. My main right now is Marty the Mole. Yeah,
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it's very fun. But I do feel like the conversation
has dropped off a little, and I wonder if that
is just like it's the lack of games. And I
think again, Donkey Kong is like up there with Super
Mario Odyssey. I don't think there's a ton of conversation
about it, even though it's like probably going to be
nominated for Game of the Year. I think it's right
up there with like Claire Obscurra and like it's a great,
(24:26):
great game. But I do think the conversation has died
a little and right now we're getting like the things
that are in the news. Jason, you'll appreciate this. Elden
Ring Tarnish Edition is supposed to like Struggle in the
portable mode. Now, I'm not buying.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
It as anybody And by the way, is anybody fucking surprised?
Speaker 8 (24:43):
Right?
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Let me just say this. If you are buying the
Switch at this point to play ported Triple A's stop
right there and go get anything else, get a place,
get a PS five, get an Xbox, whatever, and don't
don't do that, because, to literally no one's surprise, Eldering
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doesn't run on switch.
Speaker 7 (25:10):
On the switch now, I'm sure when it's docked it
will be fine, but it also runs fine on the
computer or the PS five. I do think if you're
looking forward to Silk Song, that will play fine on
switch too. I think if you're looking forward to Final
Fantasy Tactics the remake, I'm sure that'll run really well.
That's also a game from nineteen ninety seven, so I
hope it runs well on a twenty twenty five platform.
(25:34):
I think you're buying switch To for Metroid Prime four,
you're buying it for maybe Pokemon Legends, you're buying it
for the Dusk Bloods which is coming out, and you're
buying it for Zelda and Mario when they show up.
So I think that's the big pull. And how many,
like how many platform specific games are you specifically buying
(25:55):
PS five four? I mean it's just to play the
big games. Anyways, I think I don't know, maybe that's
that's okay.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Well, I've got a hot take for you guys too.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
I remember when they first announced the Switch and everyone
was absolutely dragging it, like who wants this? Nobody asked
for this, and the Switch had like a relative you know,
it sold well, But is the switch to just gonna?
Speaker 9 (26:16):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Following the switches model?
Speaker 4 (26:19):
The Switch needed the game and it happened because of
all the weird things that happened because of COVID, because
of lockdown.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
The game was Animal Crossing, and that is when the
Switch became that.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
The original Switch launched with Breath of the Wild, and
that's why I do love Breath Wild. Yeah, and that's
why I clamored for it, and that's why I pulled
every string I could get to get one and was
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very happy again and it's a fantastic As soon as
a new Zelda appears on switch To then I will
consider buying one.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Let me, let me adapt my take because my brain
is like a sieve that doesn't work on this. It's
about like a comic book issue and who drew it.
But like I guess, for me, I saw the general
public outside of gaming conversation and purchase ability of the
switch and who was buying it and how much they
were selling of the switch. When Animal Crossing came out,
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that was like that gave it, I guess a second
wave of probably like popularity. I guess because it didn't
launch with something as groundbreaking and different as Breath of
the Wild.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Maybe we're still.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
Waiting for that first kind of wave and then obviously
hopefully that that will continue with more games. But I
don't know now if there is a Breath of the
Wild or even Animal Crossing new Leaf kind of crossings, Pokemon.
Speaker 7 (27:51):
Legends, Yeah, I mean that will sell units. Pokemon will
sell units, even if it's.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
None of those. I love the Switch Pokemon games.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
It's really gotten me back into Pokemon, the kind of
more open world nature of them, but they have not
necessarily been widely beloved or particularly seen as running well
on the Switch, so I'll be interested to see how
that changes.
Speaker 7 (28:16):
One quick news story to hit on. There have been
rumors that Switch to developer kits are really difficult to get,
and a lot of developers have reached out to Nintendo
and they're saying, like, just use the switch one for
right now. Ah So a lot of like indie and
big name developers are unable to develop for Switch too yet,
which is strange considering the system has sold so well.
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We are still getting new things coming. So I think
that it will have plenty of exciting, very good games.
I do think right now, if you are not someone
who like Rosie or I grew up with the original
Donkey Kong Country, if you're not dying to play Donkey
Kong right now, wait a little bit. It will still
be there and it will still be great, and you
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can find thousands of later in six months when there's
another game you're really excited about.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Okay, to the both of you, what is your what
is the number one independent game that you guys are
playing on the non Nintendo game that you're playing on
the switch.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
To mine what mine has been.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
I have been playing Tiny book Shop, but honestly, there
are so many fantastic games on there. I have purchased
multiple games. I actually, controversially have been deeply get enjoying
Tales of the Shia, which everyone says is really bad.
But I don't think it's really bad. I think it's
just a cozy game, but with a big ip, so
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people who don't usually play them are now playing them,
so that one has been really good for me. I
think Tiny Bookshop is a masterpiece, though, and I think
people will come to see it that way the longer
it is on there.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Aaron, how about you?
Speaker 7 (29:50):
I have played two games on the Nintendo Switch to,
Donkey Kong and Mario Kart, So I step out of
this question.
Speaker 9 (29:56):
Can I?
Speaker 4 (29:56):
I've got a question for you guys. Then let's end
on a silly one conspiracy theory. What are the what's
the likelihood that the scarcity worries about the switch to
massively drove up the purchase ability and purchasing of them
because it was very easy to get my switch to
in the end, do you think that had a big
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impact on how much it's sold?
Speaker 3 (30:19):
At launch?
Speaker 7 (30:21):
It was very difficult for me to get one. I
tried multiple times going to local redealers and they would
have one or they would have none, and then I
finally ordered one online. Actually, thank you to big box stores.
I guess. I know that's a bad take, but it
came in and yes, a Boo has a really good
point in the chat, and this is why I bought
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it recently too, the possibility of tariffs hitting and it
going up in price. Sure, it made me want to
get it sooner rather than later, so that definitely I
think has helped sales.
Speaker 9 (30:54):
Well.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Thank you very much for joining me on here, where
I had probably my funniest bad take of all time.
I love Zelda Link, don't come after me.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
I like you and your sexy fish boyfriend just as
much as the next person. Let's head to a break
and we will sludge it up with my chat with
Toxic Avenger director Mae com Blair.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Hi, Rosie Carmen, how's it going. It's going very well,
Nice to talk to you all.
Speaker 10 (31:34):
Yeah, I'm really excited. I'm a huge I'm a huge
Trauma fan.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
But also I actually love.
Speaker 10 (31:41):
Like all your work.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
You're great.
Speaker 11 (31:43):
I'm I'm like the world's Biggest swamp Thing fan, So
I love you as a stranger. Yeah, it's like a
role I really loved and just had a lot of
a lot of fun with. So I was stoked to
get the chance to chat to you about this, but
also just to say, Hi.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
That's so kind, thank you. I fuck one thing is
my favorite and I was so I just over the
moon that I got to work on that.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
It was.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
It was so so fun. I was really hoping that
they would do another.
Speaker 11 (32:18):
It was truly an early part of the wild kind
of media landscape that we're living in now, where.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
You're like, is it gonna get made?
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Is it gonna keep going?
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Like nobody knows.
Speaker 9 (32:27):
It was such a big like the set for the Smalls,
and I couldn't imagine that they would do that whole
thing and then not.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Double down on it. But yeah, that was kind of
you to say thank you. Yeah.
Speaker 11 (32:40):
No, I feel and I feel like there is like
a kinship between like swamp Thing and Toxic Avenger and
kind of these like not supposed to be hero heroes
who kind of find their own ways. Could you talk
a little bit about your first experience with like Toxic
Avenger and Troma and and kind of finding those as
I'm assuming a young, young, aspiring filmmaker.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
You assume correctly, And that's exactly what it was. It
was the.
Speaker 9 (33:09):
Mid to late eighties, and you know, my buddy's older
brother was like, you got to check this movie out.
And it was very, very formative because we happened to
see it at just the right age where that sort
of the sense of humor, you know, it kind of
has like a sophomoric quality to it.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
We were just the right age to sort of appreciate that.
Speaker 9 (33:32):
And it was also right at the time when we
had just gotten our hands on a VHS camera. It's
kind of new and exciting at the time, and we
were figuring out how to make our own movies. And
this was the first Toxic Avenger.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Seeing it was at least that I can think of,
one of the first, if not the first movies that
I was like, oh shit, it looks like they like
just made this on their own, like.
Speaker 9 (33:55):
Just out in a street that it was like studio
movies and Holly would and movies were magical and huge
and very and this was like I think they just
ran around their town and did it themselves and It
was very empowering in that sense, and then also the
tone and the vibe of it, where.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Like, you know, you rip off somebody's arm and that's
a joke became We sort.
Speaker 9 (34:19):
Of absorbed that into the movies that we were trying
to make at that time, and so at in a
foundational way, it was. It kind of carried a lot
of weight for us.
Speaker 11 (34:29):
Yeah, what was the I mean, this is kind of
I feel like this is a as somebody who like
loves the Toxical Lender, I feel like maybe this is
kind of a silly question because I would have just
been like, yeah, I'd love to welcome that, But what
was it about the about toxy and about this kind
of new vision of trauma that inspired.
Speaker 10 (34:47):
You to make this like your second kind of feature.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
They legendary got the right.
Speaker 9 (34:54):
They partnered with Trauma to get the rights in like
twenty nineteen, and they were soliciting pitches and and and
I was one of the people that they that they
talked to about it. And my first thought, if I'm
being really honest, was kind of like, Toxic Avenger is
this singular like it it endures and it's loved because
it's this it's got this trauma quality.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
What the fuck are we doing? But then it occurred
to me that, like.
Speaker 9 (35:19):
I went back to them and said, actually, I would
like to pitch it because I had been trying to write.
I had written several scripts and was trying to get
them get them made, and they all had and I
didn't realize it at the time. They had this kind
of trauma sort of quality where it's there's a monster
at the center, and it's it's very funny and it's
kind of sweet, but there's like gore that's played for laughs,
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all these sort of ingredients, but they weren't based on anything,
and so they were never made. They weren't going to
get sold, and all of a sudden they were like
toxic Avenger. And it occurred to me like, this is
kind of that type of thing that I've been trying
to do, but it's attached to an ip that could
actually get made. So that was very alluring, and I
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went in and started pitching, not story ideas or anything,
but just general sort of this is how I would
approach it. And honestly, I was kind of expecting at
any moment like this is not going to work. They're
just gonna be like we wanted to be a PG.
Thirteen or are gritty or whatever it was. And to
my surprise, they responded to what I was saying, which
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is that like it should be a person in a suit,
it should be rated R, it should be very silly,
you should have like a juvenile sensitive humor. It should
be kind of sweethearted in certain ways, and just thinking
the whole way. At any moment they're going to be like, nah,
I do That's not what we want. But they said yet,
And then I was like, oh shit, I guess I've
got to write it now, so I.
Speaker 10 (36:48):
Gotta make it. But what does that feel like?
Speaker 8 (36:51):
Because the movie is so unique and it totally feels
like it is and this is like incredibly kind of
just singular, but it really does feel exactly like what
it is, which is a Troma movie made in the
twenty twenties.
Speaker 11 (37:09):
What did it feel like to actually get to make
it and have I love the way that you use
the mop and kind of the big gory fun shots
like when you were actually getting to make it and
make it in a way that still felt like a
B movie, still felt like a kind of rebellious version
of cinema. What did that feel like is you were
kind of going through the actual process of making the film.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
I was talking earlier about how like we saw the
movie when we were kids, this group of friends and
it's a group of friends that we're still friends with today.
Speaker 9 (37:44):
We had a little group and we called our production
company but Stupid Pictures. And so now I'm in Bulgaria
on this big set that's where they're building rooms that
I've sort of designed and talked about, and there's famous
Hollywood actors that are here and they're saying and on
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one level during the day you have to be I
felt like, okay, this is like we're here to do
a job, and this is where super professional and here
we go. And yet there were moments where I had
to text my buddies. I was like, they're letting me
make a fucking but stupid.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Movie on like Hollywood terms.
Speaker 9 (38:27):
And at any moment I was like, someone is going
to come over here and say that, like you have
to go home, you're fired.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
And it never happened. It was really.
Speaker 9 (38:36):
It was very surreal and kind and so much fun.
Just like it was very easy just to be like
what a dream job to get to you know, make
a movie like this that sort of like it feels
like I was getting to go back to junior high school,
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my old buddies, you know, and and a movie on
a VHS camera, except for with these awesome professionals.
Speaker 11 (39:06):
And I was going to say, it's not just like
an incredible professionals behind the screen.
Speaker 10 (39:09):
But you have you know, Pia Dinklic playing Toxi.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
You have Kevin Bacon, Elijah.
Speaker 11 (39:15):
Wood obviously, Like what was it like putting the cast
together and finding that right balance of people who just would.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
Totally go for it.
Speaker 9 (39:25):
I mean, in some cases I wrote the parts for
the person. Elijah Wood's character, I wrote specifically for him
with him on a on a movie previously, and and
we just became good buds, and I really felt like
he would be so fun as an unrecognizable bad guy.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
So it was very specifically for him.
Speaker 10 (39:50):
Uh.
Speaker 9 (39:51):
And then some of the others were just kind of
like we we knew that we were going to need
some kind of a name to be the villain, and
so it was you know, we had discussions about who
that could be, and you have no expectation that people
are ever going to even respond, let alone say yes.
But Kevin Bacon was one that I thought of that like,
(40:13):
I just think he's extremely funny and I people when
they think of Kevin Bacon, they instantly say like, oh, comedy,
but but but he's fucking funny as hell. So we
offered to him and I was like, he's probably not
This is not going to be his speed. He wrote back,
maybe not the same day, but it was like within
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twenty four hours and not even like let's meet.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
It was like I want to do this.
Speaker 9 (40:40):
And so when stuff like that happens, it's it just
it feels like a gift, Like what a Yeah, we
were talking about the professionals.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
Behind the camera, but you've got on fide American. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (40:55):
I mean, like who else has a game about how
many movies they've been in but him. It's really kind
of I was just kind of overwhelmed with the with gratitude,
I don't know how else to say it.
Speaker 10 (41:11):
Yeah, it must have been a really interesting situation too,
because watching the movie, I was just like, I don't, like,
I feel like movies.
Speaker 11 (41:19):
Like this just don't get made, like, let alone movies
like this with incredible stars and stuff.
Speaker 10 (41:25):
So how does it kind of feel?
Speaker 11 (41:26):
Because obviously it's also making the movie you start talked
about twenty nineteen. Then with twenty twenty we got hit
with COVID, and then we're all trying to live through
the pandemic and people are making stuff, but you got
to do it in a safe way, and then there's
the strikes. And so how does it feel now, like
six years later, to be because obviously showed it a
fantastic fest. I was getting many texts from many friends.
(41:49):
I was very jealous after they went to that screening,
just being like, it's so good, we're gonna love it.
And how does it feel now to be like talking
about it and getting ready to kind of everyone to
be able to see it.
Speaker 9 (42:02):
I'm gonna sound like a broken record, but it's just
it's kind of dizzying in some ways. It feels like
so long ago, and in getting ready for the release
where they're kind of like, you know, they're putting together
special features for the Blu ray and stuff, and so
I'm going back and looking at all these old photos
and old videos and just stuff from back then, and
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it feels like in some ways a lifetime ago.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
And so it's kind of strange for it to be
it's like a friend you haven't seen since.
Speaker 9 (42:33):
High school and you're kind of like, we're gonna go
on a road trip together, Like I hope we're still friends.
But it's just been incredibly exciting. And I think a
big part of that is that center verse. You never
really know how the movie. Once it's done, your access
of control over it is. It kind of ends and
(42:55):
it's sort of hands and so I was kind of like,
know because it is it doesn't totally fit into a
mainstream sort of what's popular right now, and it just
doesn't and that's okay. But I was kind of assuming,
if I'm being honest, that it was going to kind
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of evaporate into the streaming landscape out there, and that
was that. But then cinemas comes along and they want
to put it in theaters, they want to do this
and that and really seem to respond to it in
the way that I was hoping. And so it's been
this sort of like, oh, it was on the shelf
for two years. But the silver lining of that, which
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I wouldn't trade for anything, is that it landed at
a place like this where they're a loving, full throated release.
Speaker 8 (43:46):
Ye And.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
You know, I just I couldn't ask for a better
final chapter.
Speaker 11 (43:56):
Yeah, I mean, I live in I live in LA,
so I'm very lucky because we like so many fantastic
Rep cinemas here and Colt cinemas here. Even in South
LA where I live, we have a Guardina Cinema. So
I'm really I feel like it's really going to be
able to find a home in those kind of places
where people will still go and watch the original Toxic
a Benja, you know, an original Tromamrathons and stuff.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
Too, exactly, I mean, And that's the sort of like
idea was.
Speaker 9 (44:21):
And I always try to sort of when we're talking
about it to try to get this in, which is
the idea that this is not, was never intended, never
wants to be anything that.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
Sort of replaces the originals to me.
Speaker 9 (44:35):
In addition, too, in the same way that like, you know,
the Christian Bale batman does not replace the Adam West batman.
Speaker 10 (44:41):
They're both there, they both exist, and they're both good
and get.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
Both exist and they both doing their own thing.
Speaker 9 (44:46):
And like you know, maybe there'll be more interpretations and
iterations of Toxic in the future, which would be great,
But it's like if if this. If all it does
is turn people onto the originals which are available, you know,
they just had the four K release and everything, then
that would be great.
Speaker 3 (45:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (45:08):
Also I know that I'll be getting a theatrical release
is so incredible and I'm so glad that's right. And
but I will say, just there's somebody who writes about
this stuff who loves B movies. I do think that
nowadays Chub is essentially like a new home for B movies,
Like they're making incredible B movies people can self submit.
So I kind of also am excited for whenever if
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it does end up on there on.
Speaker 10 (45:33):
Like a free space.
Speaker 11 (45:34):
I feel like this could really blow up in that
way of like people finding it just because it's free
and available on TV, which is kind of a new
version of how we found like borrowing vhs from each
other or just seeing something that was being like rerun.
So I think it's got an exciting secondary part of
its release coming.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
To Yeah, I mean to me, it's great. Did do
you have Canopy?
Speaker 10 (45:56):
I love Canopy and Hoop, I love I love the library,
So can is incredible.
Speaker 9 (46:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's great. But yes, I love those
sort of like open access avenues to for people to
discover different things.
Speaker 10 (46:11):
So yeah, okay, finally, I just I don't want to
miss without talking back. She's so great.
Speaker 11 (46:17):
Could you talk a little about Taylor Page and crafting
that kind of new character because she's just such a
standout and this was really in that beginning of her
career with like Zola and stuff, So could you just
talk about finding her?
Speaker 1 (46:29):
She was so cool, That's what it was. Was.
Speaker 9 (46:34):
I had just Sola, and I was kind of like
we kind of wanted this character to kind of offset Winston.
So he's the main character, but he's also very disorganized
and he doesn't have his act together, and he doesn't.
Speaker 1 (46:50):
Have his courage yet. You know, he's sort of he
he needed some not a sidekick, but like a moral example.
Speaker 9 (46:58):
And that was yeah, so we sort of like let
her do some of the heavy lifting as far as
like taking action and kind of being a badass and
and sort of like taking matters into her own hands.
And by proximity, he he learns that from her, like
I mean, he gets mutated, of course, but just sort
of like what to do next comes from her. And
(47:24):
I just thought she did a great job as far
as being like very subtle and very relatable, but like
you kind of buy that she would, that she would
be this sort of capable, action oriented character, and it
was just one of those things. I met with her
(47:44):
and we offered it to her very quickly, and she
jumped on board, and it was just, you know, it's
sort of like it's always a leap of faith if
you haven't worked with somebody before, like I live cool.
And she was such an asset of the movie and
just a lot of fun to hang out with, but
also just yeah, brought it on camera every day, a
(48:06):
lot of physical stuff, rounding and jumping and stuff, and
she was really excited for that too.
Speaker 10 (48:11):
She ups the like cool factor.
Speaker 11 (48:13):
I feel like if a teen watches the movie and
it's quite silly, they're going to be like, okay, but
I would that's who I would.
Speaker 8 (48:18):
Be like in this role.
Speaker 9 (48:20):
That was my hope was that, like, you know, Winston
is sort of like the underdog who sort of like
figures out a path, but she's like the cool one
who is cool from the first time you see her.
Speaker 1 (48:33):
You know, she's cool from scene one to the end
of the movie.
Speaker 3 (48:37):
Yeah, thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (48:38):
I appreciate this.
Speaker 3 (48:39):
This is so awesome.
Speaker 10 (48:40):
What would your We have a really lovely passionate fan based.
Speaker 11 (48:44):
X ray vision, a lot of whom want to make movies,
So what would like your number one tip be as
someone who's making movies with your pals, Like, what's the
best thing for people who want to just make something?
Speaker 1 (48:54):
I think surrounding the community aspect cannot be understated.
Speaker 9 (48:59):
So surrounding your self with people that are supportive and
you can work on their stuff, they can work on
your stuff.
Speaker 1 (49:04):
That is the only reason that I get to do
what I get to do today is because of that.
That's sort of how I started.
Speaker 9 (49:10):
That group of friends that I was talking about came
up together and sort of that's that's how it worked.
Speaker 1 (49:17):
So that's a big part of it.
Speaker 9 (49:18):
I also think it's it's keeping as many things on
the stove as possible. I'm not saying this is the path,
but for me, like I was trying to write scripts
while also going on auditions, while also helping out on
other people's movies, and I think like having a lot
of different balls in the air ends up serving you
well because you never know which one is going to.
Speaker 1 (49:42):
Work.
Speaker 10 (49:43):
Yeah, no, I really answered the constant pitch life.
Speaker 11 (49:45):
I make comic books and I'm pitching like fifty cos
all the time. Yeah, that would never get made, but
sometimes they do.
Speaker 1 (49:52):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 9 (49:53):
And so if you put all your eggs in one basket,
it can be crushing when it doesn't work.
Speaker 1 (49:56):
But if you have you know, it's a little easier
to be like, ah, fuck it, that one didn't more.
I'll pivot to this for a while.
Speaker 11 (50:01):
And so, yeah, thank you so much. I appreciate it
was great to chat to you. And yeah, congrats and
have a great day.
Speaker 10 (50:10):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (50:10):
Hope to see you.
Speaker 2 (50:14):
Okay, let's welcome all the super producers back into the
chat to discuss their rex for this weekend. Carmel, let's
start with you. What are you? What are you get
me up to?
Speaker 6 (50:25):
You know, I'm gonna I'm gonna cop out a little
bit here. I had a really crazy busy weekend this
past week and I ended up at dragon Con with
no plan to be there, just ended up there. But
I want to rest this weekend. And Rosie has been
texting me a lot about the Tales of the Shire
game and I'm sold on it. I'm going to be
downloading Tales of the Shire this weekend, and yes, we're
(50:49):
covering and resting, and I'm gonna let you know how
I feel about it next week.
Speaker 2 (50:53):
That's also Joelle.
Speaker 3 (50:54):
This is so wild.
Speaker 1 (50:55):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (50:56):
So my brother and I were rachilling watching TV and
we got through Netflix and we were like, let me
just see what's in the sitcoms on Netflix right now.
So we're perusing through two thousand sitcoms and we stumble
upon The Bernie Mac Show and I was like, oh God, damn,
this show used to be so funny.
Speaker 3 (51:12):
I think I'm just gonna been to the Brady Mac
Show this week.
Speaker 5 (51:15):
I think I'm just going to relive two thousands glory.
We lost one way too soon, So I'm excited to
just live in sitcom binge mode for a weekend to
be fun.
Speaker 7 (51:26):
Aaron, weady for seven hours of no longer commercial free.
Speaker 1 (51:38):
It is opening.
Speaker 7 (51:40):
By the time you're hearing this, we will have had
the first game of the NFL season. I'm a huge
NFL fan.
Speaker 2 (51:46):
Here we go.
Speaker 7 (51:47):
There are a lot of great storylines this year. Some
of them also involve pop stars getting engaged, but that's
totally fine. It's the big year.
Speaker 3 (51:57):
Okay, Aaron. You know, take your guess right now, who's
going to win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 7 (52:02):
I would love to say the Buffalo Bills, who are
my team, but I know better than that.
Speaker 2 (52:06):
It's a crucial, crucial season for.
Speaker 7 (52:08):
Them, exactly. I mean another obviously, Kelsey and Taylor Stift
got engaged, but Josh Allen, don't forget, got married to
our star of Sinners and Hawkeye and Spider.
Speaker 2 (52:21):
Verse, Filipino Philipino clubs of top culture today.
Speaker 7 (52:27):
So you know, look, I'm a huge Bills fan. I
would love for them to do well. It would be
great to be able to watch a Bill's Super Bowl
with my dad. I think the winners will be the Eagles.
They're just there. They were so good last year and
they are going to remain incredible. Really excited for the
fantasy season, excited to see all the rookies, and a
(52:48):
little bummed by some of the media changes that have happened.
But you know, we'll see. If I don't know if
anyone watches Red Zone, which used to be seven hours
of commercial free football, and it will now be seven
hours of football.
Speaker 3 (52:59):
Three hours of four hours of commercials.
Speaker 7 (53:03):
It'll be full seven hours, but it'll have a lot
of a lot of commercial snuck in there. But yes,
that will be my life for the next until February,
will be every weekend watching football.
Speaker 3 (53:13):
I'm excited, Jason, how about you?
Speaker 2 (53:16):
I started a dead Wood rewatch kind of randomly because
I was out of i'd come to the end of
other shows I've been watching. Other shows I'm watching include
the current season of Below Deck include. Other seasons of
(53:38):
Below Deck include n y see the Next Gen on
Bravo include and now include Deadwood, which I'm up to
the third episode of season one and it's fantastic and
it's great, and it stuck me right back in your
duality of what we do I love, I mean dead
(54:00):
What is this close in my opinion, in my opinion
to Shakespeare that we have on television.
Speaker 8 (54:08):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (54:08):
One more, Yeah, I'll just add one more thing. Because
I am learning Spanish, I found this comedy YouTube channel
that some of their sketches got adapted by Comedy Central
Mexico and it's called Backdoor and a lot of their
sketches are just really funny in the Spanish in Spanish
and are really hilarious.
Speaker 3 (54:26):
Oh I love that.
Speaker 4 (54:28):
For me, I am going to be finishing up a
really really fun book by one of my favorite.
Speaker 3 (54:33):
Authors, Sarah Rawley.
Speaker 4 (54:35):
This is something I actually was so surprised when I saw,
because I somehow admissed that they were doing it. But
Valley in the Comic Company is actually publishing a universe
of superhero novels and Sarah did the Live Wire on
and it is just so great and I'm really really
excited to have that kind of as my thing to
(54:57):
read as I have back into La and I'm happy
to be home and probably just also doing Halloween Hora
Nights again when I.
Speaker 3 (55:04):
Get back to La. Yay, Mudhouses. I love them. Thanks guys,
thanks for coming to the group chat.
Speaker 2 (55:11):
Well that's it for this episode. Thanks for listening to
Movie Back.
Speaker 3 (55:13):
Tomorrow with News News Bye.
Speaker 2 (55:22):
X ray Vision is hosted by Jason steps Young and
Rosie Knight and is a production of iHeart Podcast.
Speaker 4 (55:27):
Our executive producers are Joel Monique and Aaron Kaufman.
Speaker 2 (55:31):
Our supervising producer is Abuza Part.
Speaker 11 (55:33):
Our producers are Common Laurent Dean Jonathan and Bay Wack.
Speaker 2 (55:37):
Our theme song is by Brian Vasquez, with alternate theme
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Speaker 11 (55:42):
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