November 2, 2022 • 42 mins
In this special mailbag episode, Jessica and Zuzanna answer listener questions about all things Season 2! Find out their favorite storylines, biggest surprises, and who they’re rooting for as they get ready to embark into Season 3.
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M Welcome back, listeners to your one and only source
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into all things gossip. Growth. You know you'll love it.
XO x O. Hi everyone, I'm your host, Jessica's or. Okay, So,
last week my girls, Usana and I wrapped up our
season two re watches with the incredible director Norman Buckley. Gosh,
I love him so much. It brought up so many
memories for the season, and we realized that before we
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move on to season three, we would like to touch
on everything season two. So for today's a very special
episode of XO XO, we are going to be doing
a mail bag episode and answering all of your questions.
And this has been so much fun in the past.
I love doing these because I feel like I get
to know you all a little bit more and hopefully
it makes your journey on this rewatch ride with us
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more fun for all of you as well. So we'll
be getting into behind the scenes memories, fashion, favorite characters,
and more. So let's get into it. Hello everyone, Hello,
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nice is Anna, Hi, how are we doing good. I'm
back from London. I was in London on a little job. Okay, yeah,
tell me about London. Yes, I just got back from London,
and I'm excited to be back to talking gossip Girl.
Even though I did talk a lot of gossip Girl
in London, because a lot of Gossip Girl fans in London.
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I was really surprised. I got stopped on the street
so much more than I do in New York, so
I thought, wow, this is um it's definitely a save
for the Brits. Oh and it was funny because I
took some photos and some pubs. You know of a
lot of pub photos, pub selfies, and um, I got
I got spotted on the tube. Um. No, but I
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went to see my friend do a play and that's
what you went for. Yeah, I went to see my
friend in a play. He's doing the Tammy Fay Musical.
And we had to stand in a queue in order
to see the play. And we stayed in a flat
and we stood in an Airbnb flat and we went
on the tube. No, but it was it was really fun.
I've never really been for a substantial visit, so it
was nice. But I did get a lot of gossip
rol up, so it was cool. So um, I'm glad
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to be back now. And it's it's fun that we
now get to answer listener questions questions. Yeah, it's like
back in the fan mode. So that was fine, and
I just I love London so much. I actually when
we were filming Gossip Girl, I used to go all
the time, like when we'd have little breaks or just
for fun or because he had a heighted for holidays. Well, um,
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I would go with d a lot. Oh sure, of
course from outside of London, so we would go a lot. Yeah,
so I got to like experience London from someone who's like,
you know, from there, which I like and love. You know.
I thought about Ed when I was there. I was
when I walked around, I thought, what wouldn't it be
great if I ran into Ed? But I did not.
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I looked for him on every around, every corner. No,
but it was fun. Oh good, I'm glad you had
a good time. And I'm glad you got to meet
some of the Gossip Girl fans. That's so fun and exciting,
so many of them. So that was really exciting because
you know, that's part of what's cool about the show
is that it is like internationally beloved, you know, and
you don't think of that, but sometimes when we get
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on social media and you see, like we have fans
in Brazil and England and all over the place, so
that's all over exciting. It is. It's it's so funny
and interesting because you, yeah, you just sometimes you just
don't think about it. You were doing, you know, doing
your job. And then I'll we were in Italy ones
and I remember Brad and I sitting at a cafe
here that's better to just tell the story, and some
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girls came up and and Brad has never really seen
the show and we had met well after I was
on it, so he was like, I just can't believe
how big this show is. He's like, I remember hearing
about it, but he's like, we're like at a small
cafe in Italy, in this little town. Like he's like,
it's crazy. And then we went to another part of
Italy and it was kind of happening there and he
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was just like, Wow, people really love the show. So
you don't really think about it until you are somewhere
somewhere else and you're like, oh, they played it here
and you guys liked it. I know, it's really it
really does translate, you know, by the way, do you think,
like are people watching it with subtitles and like Vanessa
speaking Italian and Dorota speaking Italian, or they watching like
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an American version. Well, to my sensibility, I think that
probably nowadays they watched and streamers, maybe they watched it
in the original language. But back in the day, like
I know for a fact that like in Poland, the
way they do TV there is they have like the dubbing.
It's like kind of like this weird voice. No, this
one voice reads like all the parts. It's really weird,
but so you can hear us underneath, and then there's
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like this dubbing, and then I think in other countries
we're dubbed fully with other voices, so you know, And
in fact, I'm sure of it because I saw somebody's
sent me a Spanish version from you. Yeah, and it's
totally different actors or voicing us, So it's like some
Spanish actress. Yeah, it's kind of fun you get to see. Yeah,
you got to check it out, because I feel like
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we have to google it and find like a funny
version of ourselves. I'm doing that for sure before we
come back here next week. That is hilarious because oh
my gosh, I can't imagine. That's also must be very
technical and hard to do, but I'm going to look
that up for sure. Um. Okay, so we're here and
doing a mail bag episode because we finished season two,
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we're gonna be getting into season three. And yeah, we
figured if there wasn't something we touched on or talked
about in one of the episodes of the podcast, that
you guys just right in and we can kind of
discuss it here and give you know, talk about it here. Um,
so should we just dive right in? Absolutely, let's do it. Yeah. Okay,
So we have Baldwin and it is out of all
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of season two? What was your favorite episode to rewatch?
They said there's was season two episode, which is the finale. Actually,
I agree because to me, the finale is always fun
to see how things wrap up, and I also the
watching of the finale was fun, and then also the
talking to Norman about the finale was really fun because
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we got all that behind the scenes stuff. So to me,
that was a fun one. I'm like enjoying so much
of it. It's not to say that every single one
was my favorite, but there's just bits and pieces of it,
like even you know, when we're going to start with
the finale having to be introduced who plays Scott, like
having one Poppy and Gabriel came on. That whole storyline
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with Serena was wild to me because I didn't remember
any of that. Um Like, I'm liking watching and going
on this roller coaster with um, Chuck and Blair. I
also really liked one of Norman's other episodes, which is
when they when the girls were fighting about going to school.
I don't know if that was my favorite. I don't
know if I have a favorite. That's so ridiculous, I
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should really have one. Well, the one with we would
like too is the one with the flashback the um
the one to girls one was really fun too because
it was so different, So yeah, it's yeah. I also
when to Rhoda when she had when she sneaks into
the bathroom and has all the things that she like took,
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Was it everyone's phones that you had and you had
the sunglasses on and you come into the school bathroom,
the school bathroom? Yeah yeah, um, I think that. Yeah,
I like any de Rhota snooping. Yeah, it was so funny.
I was I was like in stitches laughing, like, look
at Toronto with those cute glasses. It was too funny. Yeah,
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Deronda Undercover is the best. It's the best. Yeah, that's
a good Halloween costume. Actually, okay, yeah, you know when
of the years The Girl was on the air, it
was there was some list in like New York magazine
or something, and Deronda was one of the top ten costumes.
And I was so excited because I was like that
to me felt like really special. I was like, oh,
that's cool. Yeah, that's prety easy one to do. You know.
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You just gotta get a little headband and you're good. Um,
throw some glasses on. It's like Deronda being undercover. Um, okay,
let's move on. A similarly large question for us, which
will be hard to answer, is from uh Louisa DEM's
um and this person said, who was your favorite character
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from the show and why it's hard to pick a character?
But man, yeah, I mean a lot of me wants
to say it's really hard. You know, I would have
to because of my personal allegiances of Deronda nous. But
I feel like I love yeah so many And I mean,
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can you say that like Deronda? I love? Of course?
Why not? Why not? I love that? Yes? But you know,
I guess maybe we could narrow her or this person's
question down to like what season two characters our favorite? Like, um,
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you know that would mean like Poppy and who else?
Who else comes through? Um, Gabriel. There was also Willa
who plays um with Jenny. She's like puts all of
her stuff on fire. That was a wild storyline. I
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don't know. There's a part of me that once I
would say Blair, and then there's a big part of
me for season two that I think the journey that
Chuck goes on from the things with Blair, losing his dad,
being the families combining, like you know, moving in with Serena,
going through the heartbreak and the love triangle with Nate
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and Blair. I think Chuck took me on a real
roller coaster with all these different things going on in
his life. That's a really good point. And so much vulnerability, yeah,
like he has to go through. Yeah, he has to
make him so vulnerable. Yeah, And at the end he
really comes through and does the sweetest thing at the
problem for Blair, like make sure that she wins and
that's was the night she wanted. Even though he was
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madly is madly in love with her, he still put
all of that aside and watched the girl that he
loves up there on the stage crowning each other with
with Nate his best friend, which is really that's like
so selfless and so love is supposed to be, and
it works out for him because in the end stands
up with him. That's a good one. That's agree. I
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guess I'm gonna go Chuck. I agree. And then another
piggyback question on that comes from at portal GG brazil Um,
who asks about the favorite couple. So, I guess you
know a couple of wis I guess both of us
are leading towards Chuck and Blair. But I'm gonna say
Nate and Vanessa. No. I liked their moment. I mean, yeah,
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you want Chuck and Blair, but there is a moment
where I really enjoy you know what. For season two, Uh,
Serena and Dan were just two back and forth. I'm like,
do you guys want to be together or not? Like,
at least we know what Chuck and Blair they want
to be together and it's their game. Serena and Dan
are like unsure all the way around about all of
it and it's just started. Yeah, and I like Serena
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and Dan together, but their whole back and forth with
really not being sure kind of like started getting to me.
Chuck and Blair's black and forth thing was a game
that I was like, okay with you know what I mean,
I'm gonna have to say Chuck and Blair. Yeah, Gabriel
and Poppy and I'm just kidding, Gabriel and Serena, Gabriel,
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Serena and the director from the play. No I think that. No,
I guess I'll add Chuck and Blair definitely. But then
I also will put in a little word for um
Lily and Rufus because even though it's like they come
together and then they fall apart and then they have
that cute little engagement with the fake little ring he
puts on her when they make up, so I feel
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like I'll give them second place. Yeah, I wasn't even
thinking about those two, you know what. I also did
really like Nate and Vanessa's moment on here. But here's
the thing, now, when I think about it, for the series,
I'll probably would say I would probably say Chuck and Blair,
But I don't know for season two because there was
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so much like when he lost his dad what he
was going through and like trying to numb himself and
like being with all these different girls and doing drugs
and things like that were so that was very hard
to watch him go through that and watch Blair see
him go through that. But then again, that's also how
much she cares for him. Yeah, I'm just not answering it.
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I'm like, let me just go through everyone. Yeah, because
I feel like it's just the nature of this show
is that the couples keep keep a changing. So yeah, yeah,
what else do we have here? Yes? And Hi to Brazil?
Was that the Brazilian Yes? Hi, Hi there, and I
have to say Hi to Brazil is major because I
think that Brazil has the most Gossip Girl fans of
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any country. Um, every time I've met someone from Brazil,
they have been the most enthusiastic and gossip Girl loving fans.
So I'm giving a major high to Brazil. And uh, yeah,
that's great. So I'm glad they're listening to the podcast.
That's big hugs. Yes, Um, okay, where are we we have? Um?
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Leo Barrol Calm. It's hard to say these handles on loud.
I think they're meant to be seen. The bibeballs. Um,
they want to know what character we would have liked
to have interacted more with in season two? Um, I
guess as actors are our characters. I guess right, Um,
did you get enough of Nate? Do you think that
Vanessa enough of Nate or would you rather Yeah? I
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would have liked that to go a little bit longer.
I think that they had like a good chemistry, a
good vibe. I think the person that Vanessa is, I
think Nate really liked that she is very different from
the girls on the Upper east Side. And I think
that Vanessa getting to know Nate more, that's what she
really liked about him. He is very um different than
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than this group that she has a hard time fitting
in with. UM. But I did like their little chemistry
and their vibe, and I think they enjoyed each other.
And at the very end when they were doing the
school play, they kind of get into a little tiff
about you know, watching ESPN or reading a play or
reading a book. And then that night she like orders
in and has the ESPN on and he is like
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reading the book. So I thought that was really cute
that they were both trying to, you know, make the
other one feel comfortable and get to know what the
other one likes more, and I just thought they had
a real sweet, little dynamic situation going on. So for
for me, my answer would be that those two their
little love story one a little longer. I actually really
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agree with that because I think that, yeah, you want
to see those two sides of those characters kind of
pop out more. And I also really just like, um,
I like those two characters together. I think it's fun um.
If I had to be interact with anyone more, it
would be basically everyone, because I feel like they just
wasn't enough to Rota and season there, so I think
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season three, yeah, there's more Derota. It's like it was
a slow boil. So it's like season one there was
very little Deronda, and then over time it grows and grows.
So by season three, I get to have more fun
scenes with different people. But I don't think De Rota
ever had a direct scene with Vanessa, so that would
have been fun um. I feel like one Nowel de
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Rone and Nate were in the same room, but rarely,
so there's lots of people I would revisit, and you know,
let to Ronto have some scenes with for sure, that
would have been cool, you know, but it's also like
that's selfishly as an actor. But I feel like watching
the show, it's actually kind of fun because when Toronto
pops up, it's like just when you need her, you know,
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as an audience. Sorry, it's fine. Um yeah, And it's
actually kind of funny because like at episodes eighty eight
asked if you could have written Vanessa's character, I guess
speaking to you, Jess in season two, what would she
have been like or done? So, like if you were
in that writer's room, like if you were part of
that decision making process, but would you have changed the
trajectory for that character? Do you think? Well, I feel like,
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and I've said this to you, I feel like now
watching back, I do feel like Vanessa's let down a lot.
And that has to do with, you know, whether you
know she's letting things she lets things go and then
goes back and doesn't hold you know, brudges or right,
wants to look at the positive side of the situations
that are going down. But I think that she's not
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used to throwing people under the bus to get what
you want, Like that's just not the way. But she's
in situations a lot where she's like, well, why wouldn't
you just say that? Or Okay, we don't like each other,
that's just you don't have to say that right here.
You know, we've talked about some of the funny line
she's like, I'm standing right here when she says it
to Blair when Blair is just super mean. Yes, yes,
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that's like such a moment. Yeah, I just I'm like, wow.
She always just seems kind of like let down and
not like sad, but kind of sad, and I'm like,
oh r V. I guess there's part of me as
like a person. If that was my friend, I'd be like, Vanessa,
then don't be around those people anymore. Yeah. Yeah, Yeah.
It's like if I could write a little capsule episode,
you know, for Vanessa, it would I would be interested
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to see if she was like screw the Upper east Side,
like I'm you know, I'm not getting what I want
here and she just totally went off for like a
weekend and did a horrible whole other thing. It would
be kind of fun to see that side of Vanessa,
you know that what Yeah, like who's she hanging out with?
Who's she making out with? But at the same time,
I feel like your performance and the way the role
is written, it's like all of that is implied there,
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you know, so it's like I kind of know, I
can imagine that, so I don't in a way. It's like,
what's interesting is how she, you know, functions in this world,
so we have a good sense of who she is.
She's really fleshed out. So it's like watching her bump
up against Dan and Serena and Blair. It's like, that's
where the juicy stuff is, I guess. So it makes
sense Vanessa Vanessa, um, what what about you? Would you
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have rewritten some for her? No? Would you know? I mean,
I think, you know. It's like, uh, I just felt
like every time I got a script and I was
in it, I was like, whoa you know? For me,
I never yeah, I told you before. I always thought
I never thought I would ever be in the next episode.
So every time I was, I was like, oh, yeah,
I'm I'm still around. I always the one thing I
didn't want to see was like Derota falling down the
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stairs to her death. So as long as as long
as I was around, I'm good, I'm good. No one
wanted to see that. Okay, Next question, Taylor's mom Moms
is favorite season two plotlines is what what she wants
to know? All right, you go ahead. Um, I guess uh.
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I liked the stuff with them Blair and the minions,
like the idea that they were trying to undercut her,
Like I'm always interested in that friend group. So the
sort of Queen Bee being like Queen Bee being unqueened,
and then whether Jenny was going to take over. So
I feel like that. I like the idea of that
story line. And um, the mom daughter stuff with Serena
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and Lily and then when c C was sort of
brought into the picture and then we had the flashback.
So I like all those mom daughter issues that we
see on the Serena Lily side. I think those are
kind of the two things that I think of, how
about you? Those were really good. Um, when Poppy showed up,
there was there was so much of me trying to
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play like an investigator to be like what could she
possibly be doing? And right, here's this Gabriel. It was
really like it caught me off guard so much like
when I'm watching I was like, oh my god, I
wanted to be like a you know, like a like
a private investigator, Right, what is there some shade going on?
Who's this game real? Why is you know Serena's getting
on a private plane not telling her you know, like
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just left the country. I was like blown away by
all that. Um. And then I also thought the whole
situation where Serena was dating Air and the artist and
he ended up being Blair's mom's boyfriend's son. I'm like,
I was wi so when that all happened, I was like,
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we crap. And then yeah, that was a crazy poting
to me. And then I also thought everything going on,
See this is wild because this was so early on
in season two, but when all the things were going
on with Jenny's clothing line and like working with Blair's
mom and the fashion show, and that's where Poppy came in.
Was that season two? Yeah, it's funny because we have
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a question here from Lizette Ji and that question was
who actually designed those dresses in Eleanor's fashion show and
the ones the Jenny design. So it's like, I guess
this listener wants to know who the actual designer wasn't
I'm pretty sure it was Eric Damon. Yeah, it must
have been so it's like if it wasn't Eric, it
was some other designer outfit that was you know, borrowed
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or lent or being showcased. But Eric was like incredible
when they had to make something original. I mean it
was like having the Creme de la creme making your stuff,
for sure. And I remember the green dress because it
was such a statement and so it was so rad.
I think I'm pretty sure it was Eric Damon for
that one. Yeah, And we had some other questions about
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wardrobe too. We had um at Spooky Rynolds asked about
our favorite outfits, and then at Cindy when one oh
one when didn't no other we got to keep any
of them. So do you have any favorite outfits from
the show. You had some crazy ones, lots of bright colors, Yeah,
I had. There was always a little bright colors, lots
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of layers, lots of patterns, lots of things. Um. I
always I liked Vanessa's sneakers a lot, although she did
wear heels a lot, which Vanessa wasn't like in my mind,
wasn't a heel girl, even though she really wore them
a lot. And I did like Vanessa's like layers and
all the earrings and necklaces. It was definitely a vibe.
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But I like when you meet Vanessa it's in season one.
I really like the black bomber jacket that she's wearing
and her sneakers and they're walking next to the basketball court,
her and dan Um. I also like in something about
v which is coming up, I think it's in season three,
it's like the movie All about Eve and she wears
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this like beautiful gown, which you know, like a dream
sequence kind of thing, and I just really the dress
was beautiful. You don't really see Vanessa in like a
dress like this, and um, it was just beautiful. So
I love there was I don't really think a ton
ton of stuff that I kept, but there was like
some pieces that definitely didn't like stand my trailer, my
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dressing room. But it's okay, it's okay. But it's the
problem with that, I think every that's a lot of
people ask that. But the thing about that is it's
hard because they always usually have to keep it in
an archive in case you ever have to go back
and reshoot something or so a lot of times it's
difficult to do. So I think even on the long
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for the long run, because even when the show is over,
those all of the stuff is still in a warehouse
and they I'll tell you this anecdote, which I know
from recent history, is that when I did my cameo
on the New Gossip Girl, when I went in and
worked on that one episode, they had my same tights
my Deroda when you did the new one, but I
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did the new one. They just went to the old
wardrobe store and pulled out That's why you can. Yeah,
So I even though I wasn't wearing my Derota uniform
in the cameo episode, in the episode in the new episode,
I did wear my old tights. So it was it
was really funny because I was like, all that stuff
is still there in case they do a reboot ten
years from now, in case they do a move, and
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you know who knows, so they don't want to let
that stuff go. Definitely, So I think if people have something,
it's be snuck it or something, you know, so we
won't cupped anything. Yeah, and I wasn't. I wasn't insinuating that,
but I think that it might have been something where
there was like a couple of jackets or a couple
of T shirts or something that I was able to write, right,
let's see who else do we have here? I think
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it may Dr soups Doctor soups Dr soups um. During
this Saving Brooklyn Bar episode, did writers think of a
Chuck and Vanessa angle? That was season two episode seven
Chuck in the real life. Um, I don't know. I
don't really know when they decided to do that, because
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it does end up coming out that Chuck and Vanessa
get together to get back at Blair and Nate. But
I don't know if they like had that on the
story board from jump so I couldn't answer that, but
I remember them when reading it and thinking I was
like shocked. I'm like, wait, why is Vanessa and Chuck
getting together? Like it doesn't make sense. I don't understand it.
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But you know how it was Jusanna, we didn't know
five episodes what would come out, we know what kind
of YEP episode episodes. So, um, I don't know if
in that episode they were planning on you know, the
night where she's in the purple dress and it is
over at Chuck's and they're getting it on. So I'm
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not sure you're just going to see the scene. Yeah.
I remember being shocked the same the same person. Doctor
Soups wanted to know if Deronda got bored of wearing
the same outfit. And I think that Deronda might have
got might have been bored, but I I wasn't really
because a couple of times when I got to wear
something fancy, I realized, you know, how uncomfortable it is
to be in something fancy. So I learned to love
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the housekeeper uniforms. So there's that. It was such a
staple and so great and you gotta have it. It's like,
I mean, could you imagine Dorota like coming up in
heels and stuff when you have the glasses on, when
she right right? Yeah, that's all you need a little
accessory once in a while, a little spy accessory. And
then we have a question from at Portal Gig Brazil
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again see Brazil loving Gossip Girl. Did you think it
was right? When did you think it was right? And
v hit the letter that Nate sent to Jenny, Who
do you like Nate with no? I I And I'm
only really like on this because we just finished season two. Otherwise,
if you asked me that I'd be like Vanessa hit
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a letter. I remember watching the episode and I'm like,
what is she doing doing that? Don't do that? Um,
I did not think that was right, and that's not
really something that I feel like Vanessa would normally do.
So I was kind of like, damn, girl, why would
you do that? But to kind of have Vanessa's back
here a little bit. Vanessa was dating Nate first, and
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then Jenny swung in and kind of went in there,
and there was that whole thing going on. So you know,
when when Vanessa felt betrayed and then lied to uh,
could I maybe see why she did that? Sure? Yeah, no,
it makes sense human nature. I don't know human nature. Man. Yeah.
I'm like, Vanessa is to well meaning, bighearted characters, so
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when she does a little something sly, I feel like
it's nice because we get to see we get to
see her, you know, a different side of her, just
just you know the fact that she's imperfect and she
also has you know, her life is not always easy,
and she has things she wants and needs, and you know,
it's natural human nature. I think, yeah, yeah, And I
don't want to say this, like you got to go
and do something conniving or meaning or dishonest to like
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not be a pushover because that's I don't think that's true.
But there are times where I'm like, see, you can't
push Vanessa's buttons too much and she's not just gonna
take anything. So I do like agree with with that. That. Yeah,
and who did I like Nate with? I mean, let's
let's go down the list with Nate real quick. From
season two. It starts in the Hampton's where he's like
having an affair with the cougar. Does he have something
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going on with Serena or maybe they fake that for
a minute. Then there's Vanessa, then there's Jenny, then we
meet Brie. At the end of season two. There's some
options for him and Blair Blair Blair, Oh my gosh,
I did not just say that. I would have said
I liked him either with Blair or Vanessa, which is
funny because Vanessa and Blair couldn't be more opposite out
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of all those people. I would have rather seen, like
the little love triangle go further with Vanessa or Blair,
But you don't really want it to go with Blair
because you want to see Blair with the Chuck at
the end, right, So yeah, I agree the same way.
I think Vanessa and Nate, that's the one that's the winner,
just because it brings up, you know, different side of him.
I like that. Yeah. And here's another question about the
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Blair Nate situation from Cheechy Alexei, Um, did you want
Blair to go to n party or go with Chuck?
So I think that it's safe to say in the
end we would kind of go down the Chuck road,
and we're good with that. But there was a kind
of a sweet thing in those episodes with Nate that
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we I think we were viving with a little bit. Yes,
Like when de Rhoda and Blair are walking in Central
Part and he's waiting there, and I feel like de
Rhoda had set that up with Nate, right, I guess.
I mean, don't you look over and you see him
standing there and you guys have like the bread for
the ducks, right, I forgot want to see that, And
there's just such a sweet thing. And then he didn't
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remember the night and the night before Nate didn't want
to like kiss or hook up with Blair, but it
was because he didn't want it to be in that
like like in a moment like that. So now it's
snowing in Central Park. It's perfectly beautiful. You got to
Rhoda and Blair standing there, It's like everyone looks stunning
and beautiful. And then you like are like, oh, you
kind of do want Blair with Nate, you know when
she gets to the apartment in that moment, Yeah, I
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was like, don't do that to Nate Blair. But then
lo and behold you. You see Blair with Chalk and
you're like, all right, who's Nate? Let make go be
with Vanessa. No, yea, yeah, sometimes we get a complicated
feelings and that's okay. Yeah. And the same person wanted
to know whether we thought Gabriel had good intentions, and
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I think it's safe to say that he did not.
Although he maybe had a little bit of a maybe
a bit of authentic feeling popped up for Serena here
or there, but by and large no, Yeah, I mean, yes,
he may have like realized like, oh I like Serena,
but in all in all, I he he didn't know
that he liked her that way and he was using her,
although I forgot that he met her when she was
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drugged with Georgina and that's how so maybe when he
saw Serena, it was like, oh wait, I already met you,
and there was a vibe. That's a good question, But
all in all, I would have said no because I
think he was out and even when he got to
know Serena a little bit more, if those were true feelings,
he had time to back out of it and not
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steal money and lie to everybody. And he was always
going somewhere. We're like, where's where are you going? Where
are you? Why aren't you going to the movie with Serena?
Just go to the damn movie, Gabriel, And then he's
like always gone, and we're like that's going on. So no,
I don't think he had good intentions at all. Yeah,
you're right, Cupcake Bella. When the gang tries to expose
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gossip Girl at the point in season two, who do
you think it was? Honestly, at first, I don't. My
mind was going all over. But then remember Dan is
the first person to walk in, so I was like,
oh when he walked in, and obviously that was their
intention for us to probably all think that, but that's
where I went. And then I'm like, oh, now this
is like wild because it's basically they're just saying we're
(32:40):
all gossip Girl, like we all send in the dirt
to this blog, but not in that episode or that,
Like through season two when someone would be like what
do you who do you think? Or is it going
to come up? There was times I thought it was
Deroda because she was kind of a perfect person who
was involved and really heard a lot of things things
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but kind of unexpected to be But in in that
I guess I didn't really know. I didn't really have
someone specific. But when Dan first walked in, I was like,
oh my god, which is funny because he is Yeah,
you know, I think it might be the only time
that I ever thought it was Dan. You know, it's
like right, it's like all of a sudden, You're like,
(33:22):
I see it now, but then you know, yeah, so
I feel like it's yeah. But it's always the kind
of mystery that I didn't. It didn't bother me too much.
I was always like more caught up with other stuff
than wanting to crack who it was, you know, and uh,
that cupcake Bella hasn't One last question, which is, as
Vanessa and de Rhoda, what was your favorite scenes to
film in season two? Do you have a favorite that
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stands out for you. Oh my god, there's so many
I like, like some of these storylines. I'm talking about
them like I can't even believe it's still the same season. Yeah,
because like I definitely would have said that that's that
Central Park like duck feeding bread thing. That sounds like
it would be my favorite scene, but I don't remember
being from season two, so uh, you know, but I
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definitely loved always duck feeding. Yeah. I always like ducks
feeding ducks. Yeah, I meant to be doing I love
that in Central Park. It's like a dream. That's so awesome.
I liked when Chuck and Vanessa ended up having their
little like situation go down, which was very unexpected. Um
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that was really fun working with Ed And it was
really fun because it was so outside of what Vanessa
and Chuck would be doing. So that's what was also
fun about this show as an actor, or I guess
now even watching it, is that there would be things
that you would just never put together, never match up,
and they somehow intertwined it and did it, and it
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would it would still like make sense in a way
because of whatever the people's intentions were, whatever the characters
were trying to get. Um And and and I had
fun working together, So yeah, I would say that little
those moments. And then I also, oh, I thought the
story when everyone was at the opera was like insane too,
(35:16):
because there was just like Lillian Rufus walk up and
Serena and Dan are trying to figure out if they're together,
but are the parents together? And then like Vanessa's dating
Nate and layers there, but she's going through all the
stuff with the teacher at school and the teachers having
this situation that comes up with Dan. But all this
stuff is going down at the opera and I and
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that whole those scenes were one fun to film. We
had a guest start and she had to cough like
sneeze throughout the whole thing, and and when I watched
it back, I was like, wow, one, that's hard to
She did a great job in three. It was just
also so funny, remember that those scenes being fun names
what about you? I think it's just the ducks, the ducks.
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I love, I love beat and ducks. Yeah, it looks
like the only other pressing question was from my boyfriend
because he walked by while I was collecting mail bag
questions and um for his firstly, his observation because he's
been watching the show peripherally as I've been watching, you know,
doing the rewatch. And he came up to the other
day and he said, do you realize you have the
(36:22):
same voice over as Sex in the City. And I
was like, no, it's not. I was like, this is
Kristen Bell and that was Sarah Jessica Parker, and he said, no,
it's the same, and he was really convinced, and I
was like, well, I guess the vibe is similar, which
is a female New Yorker commenting on the state of things.
But so that was funny. Basically it's clueless, but I
guess as one question was, you know, when you're filming
(36:44):
something like Gossip Girl, like for us, what's it like,
you know to sort of prepare you know, you don't
get a lot of rehearsal when you're on camera, so
there's like one little rehearsal that you do and then
you kind of just have to film it. And like,
when you're doing something funny or crazy, is it hard
to know whether it's going well because it's kind of
in a vacuum because you don't have an audience. So
he's a stand up comic, So for him, he always
(37:05):
wants to know, like, unless people are laughing at you,
how do you know it's going well? And I actually
ran into that problem as Deronda because I would do
something so silly sometimes as Derota, and then it would
just be quiet, and I would always need either Layton
to tell me that it was funny or one of
the if one of the camera guys was like, you know,
had a giggle or smile, I would always think that, Okay,
(37:26):
I did well. But it's partially why I ended up
watching the show, because I wanted to see am I
being too ridiculous? Or is it fun and funny? And
so you know, it's hard to navigate that stuff when
you're working on TV. But I think you just have
to trust yourself, right, Yeah, I agree. I couldn't agree
more because it it's and also, you don't want to
be in your head or try to be funny, do
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you know what I mean? You want to keep them.
You want to keep it, especially in a show like
this where it's grounded. Yes, and the funny comes from
it just just coming off the page from the performance.
But I think the second you try to play funny,
it's not funny. That's why things in life are exactly
You're just trying to be like, yeah, but I just
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that's such a good question, damon, Like such a good question. Um.
I think it's also hard because when you do rehearsal,
sometimes when you get the laugh and a rehearsal or
feel something and then you don't hear it on you know,
because people can't make noise when you're actually filming, then
you don't get it. You're like, wait, did it not
work that time? So I don't know. I think you
answered it perfectly. You really have to trust your choices
(38:29):
and and what you're doing with it. And I just
always think, don't play the funny. When you play the funny,
it's that's right, it takes away from it, that's right. Well,
this is fun to talk about these things that pop
up from season two. I feel like that's like it
was so much ground to cover in season two because
so many things happen and you're like, oh, what could
possibly happen in season three? Many things, I mean like
(38:52):
really like I don't even know. Yeah, and how it
ends to season two with being introduced to Scott when
you see him, you know, at the cafe with Dan
and Vanessa. So now you're like, wait, what's going to
go down here? And like Vanessa and Dan have no
idea who this is. He's you know, aware that he's
(39:14):
trying to meet somebody. I'm sure it's his family, So
what's he gonna do to get there? Right? You're planning
a seed for something um to come, which is cool,
and it's like yeah, and I have to say, uh,
my favorite thing now about season two was rewatching it
with you, So thank you for having me for all
these season two episodes. It's been so fun to talk
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about and so it's also thrilling to me that these people,
you know, have they that are listening to the show
had these questions and wanted to know interact with us.
I think that's really cool. So it's really fun, um
fun way to wrap up season two. I think, Yes,
this has been so great, so fun. You're You've been
like such a breath of fresh air to like watch
these with because it's very nice to to do it
(39:58):
with someone that knows what I'm talking about and can
also bring everyone that's listening and all the fans and
viewers that have been so supportive and so amazing on
this journey with us. It's really nice to have a
partner in crime do it with me. Well, I feel like, um,
you know, a lot of these a lot of these
questions were about how would we rewrite season two? So
I feel like what we've learned from today's conversation is
that all we really needed was a little spinoff episode
(40:19):
with Dorota and Vanessa and they can go to the
park and feed up and then go to Brooklyn and
do light. So hop over to Brooklyn. So we're recreating
now by talking now. Uh well, thank you all so
much for writing and thank you for going on this
(40:41):
rewatch journey with us. We are very excited to start
season three, or I'll speak for myself. I'm very excited.
I want to see what's going to go down, who's
coming on, who's leaving, who's hooking up? Um? Yeah, And
so come back next week for season three episode one.
Oh you know what. I have one more observation that
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I forgot to mention earlier. Every time we talk, I
think it's so funny because we both have s z
as our the beginning of our last name. Isn't that
so weird? So rare? Yeah? So I feel like that's
why we have a good rare. That's why we can
understand gossip Girl in the way that we do. Anyway,
Thank you, I never realized that. Thank you. That's funny.
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Thanks to everybody for the mail bag. Thank you very
much everyone. Okay, and that is it. Thank you so
much everyone for submitting your questions. You made this episode possible.
I just cannot believe that season two is over. I
had such a great time walking down memory Lane. But
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moving on. We will be back next week for season three,
Episode one, Reversals of Fortune, picking back up with Chuck
and Laren, loved Hum, Freason, Hampton's and Mods Moore. Because
it is gossip Girl all right, until next time. Xl
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XO x O. Hi everyone, I'm your host, Jessica's or. Okay, So,
last week my girls, Usana and I wrapped up our
season two re watches with the incredible director Norman Buckley. Gosh,
I love him so much. It brought up so many
memories for the season, and we realized that before we
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move on to season three, we would like to touch
on everything season two. So for today's a very special
episode of XO XO, we are going to be doing
a mail bag episode and answering all of your questions.
And this has been so much fun in the past.
I love doing these because I feel like I get
to know you all a little bit more and hopefully
it makes your journey on this rewatch ride with us
(01:05):
more fun for all of you as well. So we'll
be getting into behind the scenes memories, fashion, favorite characters,
and more. So let's get into it. Hello everyone, Hello,
(01:30):
nice is Anna, Hi, how are we doing good. I'm
back from London. I was in London on a little job. Okay, yeah,
tell me about London. Yes, I just got back from London,
and I'm excited to be back to talking gossip Girl.
Even though I did talk a lot of gossip Girl
in London, because a lot of Gossip Girl fans in London.
(01:52):
I was really surprised. I got stopped on the street
so much more than I do in New York, so
I thought, wow, this is um it's definitely a save
for the Brits. Oh and it was funny because I
took some photos and some pubs. You know of a
lot of pub photos, pub selfies, and um, I got
I got spotted on the tube. Um. No, but I
(02:19):
went to see my friend do a play and that's
what you went for. Yeah, I went to see my
friend in a play. He's doing the Tammy Fay Musical.
And we had to stand in a queue in order
to see the play. And we stayed in a flat
and we stood in an Airbnb flat and we went
on the tube. No, but it was it was really fun.
I've never really been for a substantial visit, so it
was nice. But I did get a lot of gossip
rol up, so it was cool. So um, I'm glad
(02:41):
to be back now. And it's it's fun that we
now get to answer listener questions questions. Yeah, it's like
back in the fan mode. So that was fine, and
I just I love London so much. I actually when
we were filming Gossip Girl, I used to go all
the time, like when we'd have little breaks or just
for fun or because he had a heighted for holidays. Well, um,
(03:03):
I would go with d a lot. Oh sure, of
course from outside of London, so we would go a lot. Yeah,
so I got to like experience London from someone who's like,
you know, from there, which I like and love. You know.
I thought about Ed when I was there. I was
when I walked around, I thought, what wouldn't it be
great if I ran into Ed? But I did not.
(03:23):
I looked for him on every around, every corner. No,
but it was fun. Oh good, I'm glad you had
a good time. And I'm glad you got to meet
some of the Gossip Girl fans. That's so fun and exciting,
so many of them. So that was really exciting because
you know, that's part of what's cool about the show
is that it is like internationally beloved, you know, and
you don't think of that, but sometimes when we get
(03:44):
on social media and you see, like we have fans
in Brazil and England and all over the place, so
that's all over exciting. It is. It's it's so funny
and interesting because you, yeah, you just sometimes you just
don't think about it. You were doing, you know, doing
your job. And then I'll we were in Italy ones
and I remember Brad and I sitting at a cafe
here that's better to just tell the story, and some
(04:07):
girls came up and and Brad has never really seen
the show and we had met well after I was
on it, so he was like, I just can't believe
how big this show is. He's like, I remember hearing
about it, but he's like, we're like at a small
cafe in Italy, in this little town. Like he's like,
it's crazy. And then we went to another part of
Italy and it was kind of happening there and he
(04:28):
was just like, Wow, people really love the show. So
you don't really think about it until you are somewhere
somewhere else and you're like, oh, they played it here
and you guys liked it. I know, it's really it
really does translate, you know, by the way, do you think,
like are people watching it with subtitles and like Vanessa
speaking Italian and Dorota speaking Italian, or they watching like
(04:51):
an American version. Well, to my sensibility, I think that
probably nowadays they watched and streamers, maybe they watched it
in the original language. But back in the day, like
I know for a fact that like in Poland, the
way they do TV there is they have like the dubbing.
It's like kind of like this weird voice. No, this
one voice reads like all the parts. It's really weird,
but so you can hear us underneath, and then there's
(05:13):
like this dubbing, and then I think in other countries
we're dubbed fully with other voices, so you know, And
in fact, I'm sure of it because I saw somebody's
sent me a Spanish version from you. Yeah, and it's
totally different actors or voicing us, So it's like some
Spanish actress. Yeah, it's kind of fun you get to see. Yeah,
you got to check it out, because I feel like
(05:34):
we have to google it and find like a funny
version of ourselves. I'm doing that for sure before we
come back here next week. That is hilarious because oh
my gosh, I can't imagine. That's also must be very
technical and hard to do, but I'm going to look
that up for sure. Um. Okay, so we're here and
doing a mail bag episode because we finished season two,
(05:58):
we're gonna be getting into season three. And yeah, we
figured if there wasn't something we touched on or talked
about in one of the episodes of the podcast, that
you guys just right in and we can kind of
discuss it here and give you know, talk about it here. Um,
so should we just dive right in? Absolutely, let's do it. Yeah. Okay,
So we have Baldwin and it is out of all
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of season two? What was your favorite episode to rewatch?
They said there's was season two episode, which is the finale. Actually,
I agree because to me, the finale is always fun
to see how things wrap up, and I also the
watching of the finale was fun, and then also the
talking to Norman about the finale was really fun because
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we got all that behind the scenes stuff. So to me,
that was a fun one. I'm like enjoying so much
of it. It's not to say that every single one
was my favorite, but there's just bits and pieces of it,
like even you know, when we're going to start with
the finale having to be introduced who plays Scott, like
having one Poppy and Gabriel came on. That whole storyline
(07:05):
with Serena was wild to me because I didn't remember
any of that. Um Like, I'm liking watching and going
on this roller coaster with um, Chuck and Blair. I
also really liked one of Norman's other episodes, which is
when they when the girls were fighting about going to school.
I don't know if that was my favorite. I don't
know if I have a favorite. That's so ridiculous, I
(07:26):
should really have one. Well, the one with we would
like too is the one with the flashback the um
the one to girls one was really fun too because
it was so different, So yeah, it's yeah. I also
when to Rhoda when she had when she sneaks into
the bathroom and has all the things that she like took,
(07:49):
Was it everyone's phones that you had and you had
the sunglasses on and you come into the school bathroom,
the school bathroom? Yeah yeah, um, I think that. Yeah,
I like any de Rhota snooping. Yeah, it was so funny.
I was I was like in stitches laughing, like, look
at Toronto with those cute glasses. It was too funny. Yeah,
(08:09):
Deronda Undercover is the best. It's the best. Yeah, that's
a good Halloween costume. Actually, okay, yeah, you know when
of the years The Girl was on the air, it
was there was some list in like New York magazine
or something, and Deronda was one of the top ten costumes.
And I was so excited because I was like that
to me felt like really special. I was like, oh,
that's cool. Yeah, that's prety easy one to do. You know.
(08:33):
You just gotta get a little headband and you're good. Um,
throw some glasses on. It's like Deronda being undercover. Um, okay,
let's move on. A similarly large question for us, which
will be hard to answer, is from uh Louisa DEM's
um and this person said, who was your favorite character
(08:53):
from the show and why it's hard to pick a character?
But man, yeah, I mean a lot of me wants
to say it's really hard. You know, I would have
to because of my personal allegiances of Deronda nous. But
I feel like I love yeah so many And I mean,
(09:13):
can you say that like Deronda? I love? Of course?
Why not? Why not? I love that? Yes? But you know,
I guess maybe we could narrow her or this person's
question down to like what season two characters our favorite? Like, um,
(09:35):
you know that would mean like Poppy and who else?
Who else comes through? Um, Gabriel. There was also Willa
who plays um with Jenny. She's like puts all of
her stuff on fire. That was a wild storyline. I
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don't know. There's a part of me that once I
would say Blair, and then there's a big part of
me for season two that I think the journey that
Chuck goes on from the things with Blair, losing his dad,
being the families combining, like you know, moving in with Serena,
going through the heartbreak and the love triangle with Nate
(10:17):
and Blair. I think Chuck took me on a real
roller coaster with all these different things going on in
his life. That's a really good point. And so much vulnerability, yeah,
like he has to go through. Yeah, he has to
make him so vulnerable. Yeah, And at the end he
really comes through and does the sweetest thing at the
problem for Blair, like make sure that she wins and
that's was the night she wanted. Even though he was
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madly is madly in love with her, he still put
all of that aside and watched the girl that he
loves up there on the stage crowning each other with
with Nate his best friend, which is really that's like
so selfless and so love is supposed to be, and
it works out for him because in the end stands
up with him. That's a good one. That's agree. I
(11:00):
guess I'm gonna go Chuck. I agree. And then another
piggyback question on that comes from at portal GG brazil Um,
who asks about the favorite couple. So, I guess you
know a couple of wis I guess both of us
are leading towards Chuck and Blair. But I'm gonna say
Nate and Vanessa. No. I liked their moment. I mean, yeah,
(11:27):
you want Chuck and Blair, but there is a moment
where I really enjoy you know what. For season two, Uh,
Serena and Dan were just two back and forth. I'm like,
do you guys want to be together or not? Like,
at least we know what Chuck and Blair they want
to be together and it's their game. Serena and Dan
are like unsure all the way around about all of
it and it's just started. Yeah, and I like Serena
(11:50):
and Dan together, but their whole back and forth with
really not being sure kind of like started getting to me.
Chuck and Blair's black and forth thing was a game
that I was like, okay with you know what I mean,
I'm gonna have to say Chuck and Blair. Yeah, Gabriel
and Poppy and I'm just kidding, Gabriel and Serena, Gabriel,
(12:13):
Serena and the director from the play. No I think that. No,
I guess I'll add Chuck and Blair definitely. But then
I also will put in a little word for um
Lily and Rufus because even though it's like they come
together and then they fall apart and then they have
that cute little engagement with the fake little ring he
puts on her when they make up, so I feel
(12:35):
like I'll give them second place. Yeah, I wasn't even
thinking about those two, you know what. I also did
really like Nate and Vanessa's moment on here. But here's
the thing, now, when I think about it, for the series,
I'll probably would say I would probably say Chuck and Blair,
But I don't know for season two because there was
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so much like when he lost his dad what he
was going through and like trying to numb himself and
like being with all these different girls and doing drugs
and things like that were so that was very hard
to watch him go through that and watch Blair see
him go through that. But then again, that's also how
much she cares for him. Yeah, I'm just not answering it.
(13:20):
I'm like, let me just go through everyone. Yeah, because
I feel like it's just the nature of this show
is that the couples keep keep a changing. So yeah, yeah,
what else do we have here? Yes? And Hi to Brazil?
Was that the Brazilian Yes? Hi, Hi there, and I
have to say Hi to Brazil is major because I
think that Brazil has the most Gossip Girl fans of
(13:43):
any country. Um, every time I've met someone from Brazil,
they have been the most enthusiastic and gossip Girl loving fans.
So I'm giving a major high to Brazil. And uh, yeah,
that's great. So I'm glad they're listening to the podcast.
That's big hugs. Yes, Um, okay, where are we we have? Um?
(14:14):
Leo Barrol Calm. It's hard to say these handles on loud.
I think they're meant to be seen. The bibeballs. Um,
they want to know what character we would have liked
to have interacted more with in season two? Um, I
guess as actors are our characters. I guess right, Um,
did you get enough of Nate? Do you think that
Vanessa enough of Nate or would you rather Yeah? I
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would have liked that to go a little bit longer.
I think that they had like a good chemistry, a
good vibe. I think the person that Vanessa is, I
think Nate really liked that she is very different from
the girls on the Upper east Side. And I think
that Vanessa getting to know Nate more, that's what she
really liked about him. He is very um different than
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than this group that she has a hard time fitting
in with. UM. But I did like their little chemistry
and their vibe, and I think they enjoyed each other.
And at the very end when they were doing the
school play, they kind of get into a little tiff
about you know, watching ESPN or reading a play or
reading a book. And then that night she like orders
in and has the ESPN on and he is like
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reading the book. So I thought that was really cute
that they were both trying to, you know, make the
other one feel comfortable and get to know what the
other one likes more, and I just thought they had
a real sweet, little dynamic situation going on. So for
for me, my answer would be that those two their
little love story one a little longer. I actually really
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agree with that because I think that, yeah, you want
to see those two sides of those characters kind of
pop out more. And I also really just like, um,
I like those two characters together. I think it's fun um.
If I had to be interact with anyone more, it
would be basically everyone, because I feel like they just
wasn't enough to Rota and season there, so I think
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season three, yeah, there's more Derota. It's like it was
a slow boil. So it's like season one there was
very little Deronda, and then over time it grows and grows.
So by season three, I get to have more fun
scenes with different people. But I don't think De Rota
ever had a direct scene with Vanessa, so that would
have been fun um. I feel like one Nowel de
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Rone and Nate were in the same room, but rarely,
so there's lots of people I would revisit, and you know,
let to Ronto have some scenes with for sure, that
would have been cool, you know, but it's also like
that's selfishly as an actor. But I feel like watching
the show, it's actually kind of fun because when Toronto
pops up, it's like just when you need her, you know,
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as an audience. Sorry, it's fine. Um yeah, And it's
actually kind of funny because like at episodes eighty eight
asked if you could have written Vanessa's character, I guess
speaking to you, Jess in season two, what would she
have been like or done? So, like if you were
in that writer's room, like if you were part of
that decision making process, but would you have changed the
trajectory for that character? Do you think? Well, I feel like,
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and I've said this to you, I feel like now
watching back, I do feel like Vanessa's let down a lot.
And that has to do with, you know, whether you
know she's letting things she lets things go and then
goes back and doesn't hold you know, brudges or right,
wants to look at the positive side of the situations
that are going down. But I think that she's not
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used to throwing people under the bus to get what
you want, Like that's just not the way. But she's
in situations a lot where she's like, well, why wouldn't
you just say that? Or Okay, we don't like each other,
that's just you don't have to say that right here.
You know, we've talked about some of the funny line
she's like, I'm standing right here when she says it
to Blair when Blair is just super mean. Yes, yes,
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that's like such a moment. Yeah, I just I'm like, wow.
She always just seems kind of like let down and
not like sad, but kind of sad, and I'm like,
oh r V. I guess there's part of me as
like a person. If that was my friend, I'd be like, Vanessa,
then don't be around those people anymore. Yeah. Yeah, Yeah.
It's like if I could write a little capsule episode,
you know, for Vanessa, it would I would be interested
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to see if she was like screw the Upper east Side,
like I'm you know, I'm not getting what I want
here and she just totally went off for like a
weekend and did a horrible whole other thing. It would
be kind of fun to see that side of Vanessa,
you know that what Yeah, like who's she hanging out with?
Who's she making out with? But at the same time,
I feel like your performance and the way the role
is written, it's like all of that is implied there,
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you know, so it's like I kind of know, I
can imagine that, so I don't in a way. It's like,
what's interesting is how she, you know, functions in this world,
so we have a good sense of who she is.
She's really fleshed out. So it's like watching her bump
up against Dan and Serena and Blair. It's like, that's
where the juicy stuff is, I guess. So it makes
sense Vanessa Vanessa, um, what what about you? Would you
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have rewritten some for her? No? Would you know? I mean,
I think, you know. It's like, uh, I just felt
like every time I got a script and I was
in it, I was like, whoa you know? For me,
I never yeah, I told you before. I always thought
I never thought I would ever be in the next episode.
So every time I was, I was like, oh, yeah,
I'm I'm still around. I always the one thing I
didn't want to see was like Derota falling down the
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stairs to her death. So as long as as long
as I was around, I'm good, I'm good. No one
wanted to see that. Okay, Next question, Taylor's mom Moms
is favorite season two plotlines is what what she wants
to know? All right, you go ahead. Um, I guess uh.
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I liked the stuff with them Blair and the minions,
like the idea that they were trying to undercut her,
Like I'm always interested in that friend group. So the
sort of Queen Bee being like Queen Bee being unqueened,
and then whether Jenny was going to take over. So
I feel like that. I like the idea of that
story line. And um, the mom daughter stuff with Serena
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and Lily and then when c C was sort of
brought into the picture and then we had the flashback.
So I like all those mom daughter issues that we
see on the Serena Lily side. I think those are
kind of the two things that I think of, how
about you? Those were really good. Um, when Poppy showed up,
there was there was so much of me trying to
(20:24):
play like an investigator to be like what could she
possibly be doing? And right, here's this Gabriel. It was
really like it caught me off guard so much like
when I'm watching I was like, oh my god, I
wanted to be like a you know, like a like
a private investigator, Right, what is there some shade going on?
Who's this game real? Why is you know Serena's getting
on a private plane not telling her you know, like
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just left the country. I was like blown away by
all that. Um. And then I also thought the whole
situation where Serena was dating Air and the artist and
he ended up being Blair's mom's boyfriend's son. I'm like,
I was wi so when that all happened, I was like,
(21:10):
we crap. And then yeah, that was a crazy poting
to me. And then I also thought everything going on,
See this is wild because this was so early on
in season two, but when all the things were going
on with Jenny's clothing line and like working with Blair's
mom and the fashion show, and that's where Poppy came in.
Was that season two? Yeah, it's funny because we have
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a question here from Lizette Ji and that question was
who actually designed those dresses in Eleanor's fashion show and
the ones the Jenny design. So it's like, I guess
this listener wants to know who the actual designer wasn't
I'm pretty sure it was Eric Damon. Yeah, it must
have been so it's like if it wasn't Eric, it
was some other designer outfit that was you know, borrowed
(21:53):
or lent or being showcased. But Eric was like incredible
when they had to make something original. I mean it
was like having the Creme de la creme making your stuff,
for sure. And I remember the green dress because it
was such a statement and so it was so rad.
I think I'm pretty sure it was Eric Damon for
that one. Yeah, And we had some other questions about
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wardrobe too. We had um at Spooky Rynolds asked about
our favorite outfits, and then at Cindy when one oh
one when didn't no other we got to keep any
of them. So do you have any favorite outfits from
the show. You had some crazy ones, lots of bright colors, Yeah,
I had. There was always a little bright colors, lots
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of layers, lots of patterns, lots of things. Um. I
always I liked Vanessa's sneakers a lot, although she did
wear heels a lot, which Vanessa wasn't like in my mind,
wasn't a heel girl, even though she really wore them
a lot. And I did like Vanessa's like layers and
all the earrings and necklaces. It was definitely a vibe.
(22:55):
But I like when you meet Vanessa it's in season one.
I really like the black bomber jacket that she's wearing
and her sneakers and they're walking next to the basketball court,
her and dan Um. I also like in something about
v which is coming up, I think it's in season three,
it's like the movie All about Eve and she wears
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this like beautiful gown, which you know, like a dream
sequence kind of thing, and I just really the dress
was beautiful. You don't really see Vanessa in like a
dress like this, and um, it was just beautiful. So
I love there was I don't really think a ton
ton of stuff that I kept, but there was like
some pieces that definitely didn't like stand my trailer, my
(23:38):
dressing room. But it's okay, it's okay. But it's the
problem with that, I think every that's a lot of
people ask that. But the thing about that is it's
hard because they always usually have to keep it in
an archive in case you ever have to go back
and reshoot something or so a lot of times it's
difficult to do. So I think even on the long
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for the long run, because even when the show is over,
those all of the stuff is still in a warehouse
and they I'll tell you this anecdote, which I know
from recent history, is that when I did my cameo
on the New Gossip Girl, when I went in and
worked on that one episode, they had my same tights
my Deroda when you did the new one, but I
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did the new one. They just went to the old
wardrobe store and pulled out That's why you can. Yeah,
So I even though I wasn't wearing my Derota uniform
in the cameo episode, in the episode in the new episode,
I did wear my old tights. So it was it
was really funny because I was like, all that stuff
is still there in case they do a reboot ten
years from now, in case they do a move, and
(24:42):
you know who knows, so they don't want to let
that stuff go. Definitely, So I think if people have something,
it's be snuck it or something, you know, so we
won't cupped anything. Yeah, and I wasn't. I wasn't insinuating that,
but I think that it might have been something where
there was like a couple of jackets or a couple
of T shirts or something that I was able to write, right,
let's see who else do we have here? I think
(25:02):
it may Dr soups Doctor soups Dr soups um. During
this Saving Brooklyn Bar episode, did writers think of a
Chuck and Vanessa angle? That was season two episode seven
Chuck in the real life. Um, I don't know. I
don't really know when they decided to do that, because
(25:25):
it does end up coming out that Chuck and Vanessa
get together to get back at Blair and Nate. But
I don't know if they like had that on the
story board from jump so I couldn't answer that, but
I remember them when reading it and thinking I was
like shocked. I'm like, wait, why is Vanessa and Chuck
getting together? Like it doesn't make sense. I don't understand it.
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But you know how it was Jusanna, we didn't know
five episodes what would come out, we know what kind
of YEP episode episodes. So, um, I don't know if
in that episode they were planning on you know, the
night where she's in the purple dress and it is
over at Chuck's and they're getting it on. So I'm
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not sure you're just going to see the scene. Yeah.
I remember being shocked the same the same person. Doctor
Soups wanted to know if Deronda got bored of wearing
the same outfit. And I think that Deronda might have
got might have been bored, but I I wasn't really
because a couple of times when I got to wear
something fancy, I realized, you know, how uncomfortable it is
to be in something fancy. So I learned to love
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the housekeeper uniforms. So there's that. It was such a
staple and so great and you gotta have it. It's like,
I mean, could you imagine Dorota like coming up in
heels and stuff when you have the glasses on, when
she right right? Yeah, that's all you need a little
accessory once in a while, a little spy accessory. And
then we have a question from at Portal Gig Brazil
(26:52):
again see Brazil loving Gossip Girl. Did you think it
was right? When did you think it was right? And
v hit the letter that Nate sent to Jenny, Who
do you like Nate with no? I I And I'm
only really like on this because we just finished season two. Otherwise,
if you asked me that I'd be like Vanessa hit
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a letter. I remember watching the episode and I'm like,
what is she doing doing that? Don't do that? Um,
I did not think that was right, and that's not
really something that I feel like Vanessa would normally do.
So I was kind of like, damn, girl, why would
you do that? But to kind of have Vanessa's back
here a little bit. Vanessa was dating Nate first, and
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then Jenny swung in and kind of went in there,
and there was that whole thing going on. So you know,
when when Vanessa felt betrayed and then lied to uh,
could I maybe see why she did that? Sure? Yeah, no,
it makes sense human nature. I don't know human nature. Man. Yeah.
I'm like, Vanessa is to well meaning, bighearted characters, so
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when she does a little something sly, I feel like
it's nice because we get to see we get to
see her, you know, a different side of her, just
just you know the fact that she's imperfect and she
also has you know, her life is not always easy,
and she has things she wants and needs, and you know,
it's natural human nature. I think, yeah, yeah, And I
don't want to say this, like you got to go
and do something conniving or meaning or dishonest to like
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not be a pushover because that's I don't think that's true.
But there are times where I'm like, see, you can't
push Vanessa's buttons too much and she's not just gonna
take anything. So I do like agree with with that. That. Yeah,
and who did I like Nate with? I mean, let's
let's go down the list with Nate real quick. From
season two. It starts in the Hampton's where he's like
having an affair with the cougar. Does he have something
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going on with Serena or maybe they fake that for
a minute. Then there's Vanessa, then there's Jenny, then we
meet Brie. At the end of season two. There's some
options for him and Blair Blair Blair, Oh my gosh,
I did not just say that. I would have said
I liked him either with Blair or Vanessa, which is
funny because Vanessa and Blair couldn't be more opposite out
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of all those people. I would have rather seen, like
the little love triangle go further with Vanessa or Blair,
But you don't really want it to go with Blair
because you want to see Blair with the Chuck at
the end, right, So yeah, I agree the same way.
I think Vanessa and Nate, that's the one that's the winner,
just because it brings up, you know, different side of him.
I like that. Yeah. And here's another question about the
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Blair Nate situation from Cheechy Alexei, Um, did you want
Blair to go to n party or go with Chuck?
So I think that it's safe to say in the
end we would kind of go down the Chuck road,
and we're good with that. But there was a kind
of a sweet thing in those episodes with Nate that
(29:54):
we I think we were viving with a little bit. Yes,
Like when de Rhoda and Blair are walking in Central
Part and he's waiting there, and I feel like de
Rhoda had set that up with Nate, right, I guess.
I mean, don't you look over and you see him
standing there and you guys have like the bread for
the ducks, right, I forgot want to see that, And
there's just such a sweet thing. And then he didn't
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remember the night and the night before Nate didn't want
to like kiss or hook up with Blair, but it
was because he didn't want it to be in that
like like in a moment like that. So now it's
snowing in Central Park. It's perfectly beautiful. You got to
Rhoda and Blair standing there, It's like everyone looks stunning
and beautiful. And then you like are like, oh, you
kind of do want Blair with Nate, you know when
she gets to the apartment in that moment, Yeah, I
(30:37):
was like, don't do that to Nate Blair. But then
lo and behold you. You see Blair with Chalk and
you're like, all right, who's Nate? Let make go be
with Vanessa. No, yea, yeah, sometimes we get a complicated
feelings and that's okay. Yeah. And the same person wanted
to know whether we thought Gabriel had good intentions, and
(30:58):
I think it's safe to say that he did not.
Although he maybe had a little bit of a maybe
a bit of authentic feeling popped up for Serena here
or there, but by and large no, Yeah, I mean, yes,
he may have like realized like, oh I like Serena,
but in all in all, I he he didn't know
that he liked her that way and he was using her,
although I forgot that he met her when she was
(31:21):
drugged with Georgina and that's how so maybe when he
saw Serena, it was like, oh wait, I already met you,
and there was a vibe. That's a good question, But
all in all, I would have said no because I
think he was out and even when he got to
know Serena a little bit more, if those were true feelings,
he had time to back out of it and not
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steal money and lie to everybody. And he was always
going somewhere. We're like, where's where are you going? Where
are you? Why aren't you going to the movie with Serena?
Just go to the damn movie, Gabriel, And then he's
like always gone, and we're like that's going on. So no,
I don't think he had good intentions at all. Yeah,
you're right, Cupcake Bella. When the gang tries to expose
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gossip Girl at the point in season two, who do
you think it was? Honestly, at first, I don't. My
mind was going all over. But then remember Dan is
the first person to walk in, so I was like,
oh when he walked in, and obviously that was their
intention for us to probably all think that, but that's
where I went. And then I'm like, oh, now this
is like wild because it's basically they're just saying we're
(32:40):
all gossip Girl, like we all send in the dirt
to this blog, but not in that episode or that,
Like through season two when someone would be like what
do you who do you think? Or is it going
to come up? There was times I thought it was
Deroda because she was kind of a perfect person who
was involved and really heard a lot of things things
(33:01):
but kind of unexpected to be But in in that
I guess I didn't really know. I didn't really have
someone specific. But when Dan first walked in, I was like,
oh my god, which is funny because he is Yeah,
you know, I think it might be the only time
that I ever thought it was Dan. You know, it's
like right, it's like all of a sudden, You're like,
(33:22):
I see it now, but then you know, yeah, so
I feel like it's yeah. But it's always the kind
of mystery that I didn't. It didn't bother me too much.
I was always like more caught up with other stuff
than wanting to crack who it was, you know, and uh,
that cupcake Bella hasn't One last question, which is, as
Vanessa and de Rhoda, what was your favorite scenes to
film in season two? Do you have a favorite that
(33:44):
stands out for you. Oh my god, there's so many
I like, like some of these storylines. I'm talking about
them like I can't even believe it's still the same season. Yeah,
because like I definitely would have said that that's that
Central Park like duck feeding bread thing. That sounds like
it would be my favorite scene, but I don't remember
being from season two, so uh, you know, but I
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definitely loved always duck feeding. Yeah. I always like ducks
feeding ducks. Yeah, I meant to be doing I love
that in Central Park. It's like a dream. That's so awesome.
I liked when Chuck and Vanessa ended up having their
little like situation go down, which was very unexpected. Um
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that was really fun working with Ed And it was
really fun because it was so outside of what Vanessa
and Chuck would be doing. So that's what was also
fun about this show as an actor, or I guess
now even watching it, is that there would be things
that you would just never put together, never match up,
and they somehow intertwined it and did it, and it
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would it would still like make sense in a way
because of whatever the people's intentions were, whatever the characters
were trying to get. Um And and and I had
fun working together, So yeah, I would say that little
those moments. And then I also, oh, I thought the
story when everyone was at the opera was like insane too,
(35:16):
because there was just like Lillian Rufus walk up and
Serena and Dan are trying to figure out if they're together,
but are the parents together? And then like Vanessa's dating
Nate and layers there, but she's going through all the
stuff with the teacher at school and the teachers having
this situation that comes up with Dan. But all this
stuff is going down at the opera and I and
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that whole those scenes were one fun to film. We
had a guest start and she had to cough like
sneeze throughout the whole thing, and and when I watched
it back, I was like, wow, one, that's hard to
She did a great job in three. It was just
also so funny, remember that those scenes being fun names
what about you? I think it's just the ducks, the ducks.
(36:01):
I love, I love beat and ducks. Yeah, it looks
like the only other pressing question was from my boyfriend
because he walked by while I was collecting mail bag
questions and um for his firstly, his observation because he's
been watching the show peripherally as I've been watching, you know,
doing the rewatch. And he came up to the other
day and he said, do you realize you have the
(36:22):
same voice over as Sex in the City. And I
was like, no, it's not. I was like, this is
Kristen Bell and that was Sarah Jessica Parker, and he said, no,
it's the same, and he was really convinced, and I
was like, well, I guess the vibe is similar, which
is a female New Yorker commenting on the state of things.
But so that was funny. Basically it's clueless, but I
guess as one question was, you know, when you're filming
(36:44):
something like Gossip Girl, like for us, what's it like,
you know to sort of prepare you know, you don't
get a lot of rehearsal when you're on camera, so
there's like one little rehearsal that you do and then
you kind of just have to film it. And like,
when you're doing something funny or crazy, is it hard
to know whether it's going well because it's kind of
in a vacuum because you don't have an audience. So
he's a stand up comic, So for him, he always
(37:05):
wants to know, like, unless people are laughing at you,
how do you know it's going well? And I actually
ran into that problem as Deronda because I would do
something so silly sometimes as Derota, and then it would
just be quiet, and I would always need either Layton
to tell me that it was funny or one of
the if one of the camera guys was like, you know,
had a giggle or smile, I would always think that, Okay,
(37:26):
I did well. But it's partially why I ended up
watching the show, because I wanted to see am I
being too ridiculous? Or is it fun and funny? And
so you know, it's hard to navigate that stuff when
you're working on TV. But I think you just have
to trust yourself, right, Yeah, I agree. I couldn't agree
more because it it's and also, you don't want to
be in your head or try to be funny, do
(37:47):
you know what I mean? You want to keep them.
You want to keep it, especially in a show like
this where it's grounded. Yes, and the funny comes from
it just just coming off the page from the performance.
But I think the second you try to play funny,
it's not funny. That's why things in life are exactly
You're just trying to be like, yeah, but I just
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that's such a good question, damon, Like such a good question. Um.
I think it's also hard because when you do rehearsal,
sometimes when you get the laugh and a rehearsal or
feel something and then you don't hear it on you know,
because people can't make noise when you're actually filming, then
you don't get it. You're like, wait, did it not
work that time? So I don't know. I think you
answered it perfectly. You really have to trust your choices
(38:29):
and and what you're doing with it. And I just
always think, don't play the funny. When you play the funny,
it's that's right, it takes away from it, that's right. Well,
this is fun to talk about these things that pop
up from season two. I feel like that's like it
was so much ground to cover in season two because
so many things happen and you're like, oh, what could
possibly happen in season three? Many things, I mean like
(38:52):
really like I don't even know. Yeah, and how it
ends to season two with being introduced to Scott when
you see him, you know, at the cafe with Dan
and Vanessa. So now you're like, wait, what's going to
go down here? And like Vanessa and Dan have no
idea who this is. He's you know, aware that he's
(39:14):
trying to meet somebody. I'm sure it's his family, So
what's he gonna do to get there? Right? You're planning
a seed for something um to come, which is cool,
and it's like yeah, and I have to say, uh,
my favorite thing now about season two was rewatching it
with you, So thank you for having me for all
these season two episodes. It's been so fun to talk
(39:34):
about and so it's also thrilling to me that these people,
you know, have they that are listening to the show
had these questions and wanted to know interact with us.
I think that's really cool. So it's really fun, um
fun way to wrap up season two. I think, Yes,
this has been so great, so fun. You're You've been
like such a breath of fresh air to like watch
these with because it's very nice to to do it
(39:58):
with someone that knows what I'm talking about and can
also bring everyone that's listening and all the fans and
viewers that have been so supportive and so amazing on
this journey with us. It's really nice to have a
partner in crime do it with me. Well, I feel like, um,
you know, a lot of these a lot of these
questions were about how would we rewrite season two? So
I feel like what we've learned from today's conversation is
that all we really needed was a little spinoff episode
(40:19):
with Dorota and Vanessa and they can go to the
park and feed up and then go to Brooklyn and
do light. So hop over to Brooklyn. So we're recreating
now by talking now. Uh well, thank you all so
much for writing and thank you for going on this
(40:41):
rewatch journey with us. We are very excited to start
season three, or I'll speak for myself. I'm very excited.
I want to see what's going to go down, who's
coming on, who's leaving, who's hooking up? Um? Yeah, And
so come back next week for season three episode one.
Oh you know what. I have one more observation that
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I forgot to mention earlier. Every time we talk, I
think it's so funny because we both have s z
as our the beginning of our last name. Isn't that
so weird? So rare? Yeah? So I feel like that's
why we have a good rare. That's why we can
understand gossip Girl in the way that we do. Anyway,
Thank you, I never realized that. Thank you. That's funny.
(41:28):
Thanks to everybody for the mail bag. Thank you very
much everyone. Okay, and that is it. Thank you so
much everyone for submitting your questions. You made this episode possible.
I just cannot believe that season two is over. I
had such a great time walking down memory Lane. But
(41:50):
moving on. We will be back next week for season three,
Episode one, Reversals of Fortune, picking back up with Chuck
and Laren, loved Hum, Freason, Hampton's and Mods Moore. Because
it is gossip Girl all right, until next time. Xl
xl xl x O is produced by Propagate Content and
(42:15):
Met Jessica's Or. Our show is executive produced by Langley.
Our producers are Diego Tapia, Kristin Vermilia, Emily Carr, and
Hannah Harris. Original music by Moxie and Lude, and the
episode was mixed by Sethi Landscape
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