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November 18, 2025 • 49 mins

In this episode of You vs You, Lex sits down with Alex Gaudi to break down a powerful story of transformation, from childhood trauma and emotional chaos to one of the most grounded and emotionally centered men Lex knows.

Alex reveals the exact 1-hour daily practice that rewired his brain, reshaped his emotional responses, and allowed him to reach a place where he no longer has bad days.

This conversation blends neuroscience, emotional intelligence, trauma healing, nature, movement, and identity, offering a clear and practical blueprint for anyone who wants to reset their mind and reconnect with who they really are.

You’ll learn:
- Why your brain defaults to negative loops
- How neuroplasticity works in real life
- The Gratitude Walk Method (protocol step-by-step)
- Why walking is the most underestimated antidepressant
- How childhood experiences shape emotional identity
- How movement lowers cortisol, increases dopamine & serotonin
- How shifting your inner dialogue rewires your body’s responses
- Why naming a practice changes the brain
- How to create a “default setting” of calm and clarity
- Why we need nature and energy exchange
- How identity, purpose, and self-awareness shape emotional freedom

If you’ve been stuck in cycles of anxiety, overthinking, stress, or emotional instability, this episode gives you a proven framework rooted in self-mastery, science, and lived experience.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
That what I was doing was rewiring my brain.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
And if you can dedicate yourself to doing that one
hour a day, Bro, I don't care who you are.
You're changing your life. You will no longer be dependent
on therapists. You could take control of your mind yourself.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
These alescote Alex Scauti in Miami Nightlife legend event producer.

Speaker 4 (00:19):
From building the biggest parties with the greatest celebrities.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
To becoming a philanthropist.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
I told myself, I'm like, you know what this, I'm
forty seven years older. I've earned the right to not
walking is the single greatest anti depressant known to Mankind
can't monetize that.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
They don't want to say that.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
You know what I mean, Alex, Welcome to you versus you.
I am so thrilled to have you here.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
For those of you listening, Alex has been my friend
now for I want to say, like six years and
some are going around there, and in that time, I've
not only gotten a chance to get to know an
amazing human being, but I've also seeing the growth, transition
and discovery of someone who I actually enjoy talking to

(01:06):
every day. So I'm excited to talk to you today.
To start it off, you know, one of the things
that I will always say about you is that I
will always get a morning call from Alex and you're
super excited about life.

Speaker 5 (01:21):
So what does happiness mean to you? Happiness? Wow, you
would imagine that I have that dialed in. I think
for me, happiness is having emotional intelligence self just having
freedom from what other people think about you, having to

(01:44):
be what somebody else wants you to be. Being comfortable
in your own skin is so important because and as
you well know, I've been through that many ups and downs,
and a lot of those downs would crush other people
mentally they be so unhappy.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
And I don't get unhappy, you know, you do to
an extent. You go through your moments when you go
into funks. But I'm surprisingly happy even in those moments.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
And it's because.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
I'm okay in my own skin and what anybody else
thinks about me doesn't really affect me that much.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
And it does affect me when I say it.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
Doesn't affect me that much, you know, in the grand
scheme of things, I think I have that under control
to a major extent.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
That's an interesting point to touch on, right because I
think the hardest thing to be in is ourselves. And
I say that because so much of what has been
programmed in our brain by society is this idea that
you are missing something, and therefore, because you're missing something,

(02:53):
whether that's money or wealth or fame or blah or
whatever it is, you look left and you look right.
And I was having a conversation like just today with
my brother in law about this, right, because I said, like,
I admire people who have found the closest version of
themselves to be and don't have that fear or not

(03:16):
that don't have that fear, but don't have the level
of fear most.

Speaker 4 (03:19):
Of us have in becoming who we are.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
Right, Because when you look at a kid, and we
were talking about this of her dinner the other day,
when you look at a kid like my daughter, she
gets messy and she doesn't feel shame because she doesn't
realize that doesn't she doesn't care what she looks like,
she doesn't know how to fix her hair. And I
truly feel like that's the truest version of ourselves, like
a version with no shame, a version of just complete

(03:42):
and utterly just excitement about whatever's going on, because no
one has told you that's not right or wrong, or
that's not you shouldn't dress like that, or you shouldn't
eat like that, or.

Speaker 4 (03:51):
You shouldn't, you shouldn't, you shouldn't, you.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
Shouldn't, And no one at that age also has told
you that something necessarily is missing, like you don't understand that,
oh like people with money they live a different life
than I do, or some people have a bigger house
than I do. But touching on that, what do you
think has given you that confidence? What was it about
your life journey that has Because I truly you know,

(04:13):
there's people that you meet and say, oh, yeah, I'm
the true version of yourself, and without judging them, you
can kind of see through that they're still struggling with
that as so many of those are, you know, so
many of us are, myself included. But there is people
that you see that have a better part of.

Speaker 4 (04:32):
That muscle developed.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Right.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
I always say, like I admire artists because putting yourself
out there, your emotions, your life story, you're crying, your tears,
you're good, you're bad, and ugly out into the public.
It takes courage. It's hard in your personal journey. What
has been those points that have allowed you to, like,
you know, break through that fear and start, you know,

(04:56):
picking up that wall in order to be confident. Because
I do believe that out of the friends that I
have here, one of the people that I feel has
probably the closest sense to self has that been years?

Speaker 4 (05:10):
Is that experience?

Speaker 1 (05:11):
Is that?

Speaker 4 (05:11):
Was there a moment?

Speaker 3 (05:12):
What what was that that that touched that? And how
can someone at home say, oh, man, I can use.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
I'm break it all down for you.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
First and foremost part of its luck. We are all
given the brain we're given.

Speaker 6 (05:25):
Like and us human beings, we want to we our
ego wants to tell us, Oh, I'm.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
The reason why all this is so great.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
I'm the you know, I overcame this and I had
these challenges and yeah, but why did you overcome those challenges?
What was happening in your brain that gave you the
need to overcome it? Like all of that is the
hard ware we were given is first. So I got lucky. Man,
I have had.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
A really tough life growing up.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
My mom, she's an unbelievable human being, but and we
have a great relationship. And when I was a child,
she was she was at it and I went through
some really tough things that I don't know how I
got through them from watching you know, people doing drugs,
running around the house, naked, being locked in a bathroom
while everybody's parting, my mom disappearing for three days, me

(06:13):
crying by the windows.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
And I don't want to get I don't like getting
into that that much.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Not because I'm scared to talk about it, but you
know me, I want to get to like, Okay, everybody's
got problems. To fix your problems. I don't care what
your problem is. Once I've identified you have a problem.
Right now, I'm gonna tell you, tell you what you
need to do. How do you get out of that?
But I was able to get out of that partly

(06:38):
because of the brain I was given, and nothing to
do with my greatness.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
I didn't do anything at five years old.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
How do you go through that stuff and somehow still
it not affect you the way it would typically affect
another five year old. So part of it is I
was born that way, and that is the biggest blessing
in the world. You know, Lebron James has nothing to
do with being six foot eight. He has nothing to
do with it, you know, And through the because I

(07:06):
was born with the brain that I have. I'm very curious,
I'm very introspective. I'm always asking questions, asking myself questions,
which led me to reading a lot of books. And
that started probably in twenty eighteen. I started getting to
the point where I was reading ten to twenty books
a year. The books were like my therapy. I'm reading

(07:29):
from the greatest philosophers on Earth, some of the greatest philosophers,
from oh Show to Alan Watts, to Ron Das to
Michael Singer, Jay Shetty, just Deepak Chopra, Napoleon Hill, so many,
so many great and they're literally the greats, the greats
of our time, the greats from the past, and all

(07:51):
that stuff just started resonating with me and I just
started really taking it in.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
I started applying it to my life now with a
real intentionality.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
That's the funny thing about it. I'm a feelings guy.
So if you asked me what the book I read yesterday,
what's it about? I'm know a couple of things I
don't remember, But inside my heart took it all right.
It's like it became me through like osmosis almost. It's
like it's just and and through that constant reading, a

(08:26):
lot of these ideas started becoming my ideas, to the
point where I just thought they were my ideas.

Speaker 7 (08:31):
I didn't realize I got it from somebody else, you know.
I was like, Oh, I just know that, I'm just
that's just who I am. I'm just you know, so,
which is kind of funny. But the fact that I'm
even self aware of that shows you.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
How my brain works. Right. So that was the start
of it.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
And the first philosopher that really changed the game for
me was Ohshow. And for those of you who don't
know Oh Show, there was a Netflix documentary on him.
I forget the name of it, but basically, you know,
he started a cult, created his own city. So people
would ask me, how do you think, Ohow's the greatest philosopher.

(09:10):
I'm like, well, knowing how to live your life and
being able to live your life that way or two
different things, which kind of gets me to to the
point of every single human being on the face of
this earth is a being of light and love. They
all want to love, they all want to be loved,
they want to do good.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
And what happens is life.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
You have trauma, you have hurt, you have pain, you
have survival mode kicks in because you've got bills to pay.
All these things happen to your life, and they pull
you away from being who you are, treating others the
way you truly want to treat them. I don't think
anybody treats somebody bad and walks away like, man, I'm
glad I treated that person like shit. You kind of like,

(09:53):
you're like, damn, man, I really have to go that hard.
Damn I could have done something different. Then you're ego
gets in a way. You're like, but I'm not gonna apologize.
I'm gonna look like a jump. I gotta stand my ground.
I gotta be tough. I gotta be this. I can't
show them weakness. And I think a lot of people,
everybody lives that way.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
But our true.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
Nature is love and light, and some of us are
just more connected to it than others.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
And the more.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
Layers you peel away, the closer you get to it,
The more you love somebody who has that heart inexterior
that they can't access their love and they can't access
their light, the more you continue to love and time
and time again, whenever I do that and just continue
to love somebody even when they're.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
Not showing me any love. It always works, it always wins.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
So I think, you know, one of the things that
I like to do, and the reason why I started
the podcast was to give some practical information and conversation,
right because I always say spirituality and the idea of
even religion or whatever it is, it all sounds really great.

Speaker 4 (11:00):
Question is how do you put it into practice?

Speaker 2 (11:01):
Right?

Speaker 4 (11:02):
And that's that's really the point. So you touched on
two points.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
One is you know, reading really helped you, and I
do think that reading and putting yourself in a place
where you are in taking information, it's a good first step.
Is there two three books or is there a book
that you would say to someone in our audience, say, hey,

(11:26):
let's start with this.

Speaker 4 (11:28):
This book really sets you up.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
To That's hard, man, because a book has to meet
you where you're at, and it just.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
Depends where a human is at. And you could read
a book and it just doesn't resonate with you. You're
not there yet, right, So you.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Don't take a book and give it to a third
grade book and give it to a kindergartener.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
They just can't.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
You know, even the most advanced kindergarten who can probably
read the words, isn't understanding. So I can go on
about the books. But I like, you know, my favorite
book is out Waiting the Devil.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
By Napoleon Hill.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Michael Singer's The Untethered Soul is really really good, But
that one's a deep book. You got to be at
a certain place for that one. Oh shows the happiness
that comes from within, the joy that comes from within,
something like that. That book is game changing. But I
was also ready for that book when I read it.
But I like when you mentioned the practicality, because all

(12:22):
this spirituality stuff is hocus pocus to a lot of people,
just doesn't make sense.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
That's not me.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
It's two care bears or like you know what I mean,
it's too not everybody's like that. But the practicality what
I discovered by accident, it has completely changed my life,
and now I understand why. And the people that have
started implementing it into their life, it's completely changing theirs.

(12:49):
It's called gratitude walks. And before coming here today, I
actually thought about it.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
I'm like, I.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Remember going to your house in January twenty twenty one
and we would go on gratitude walks in the morning.
I just didn't call them gratitude walks yet. I hadn't
discovered that what I was doing was rewiring my brain.
I wasn't even I didn't even put the intentionality of
it being a gratitude walk, even though I was a
naturally grateful person and thinking about grateful things. But there

(13:18):
was no practice. There was no and I hate to
use the word regimen or structure, but there wasn't any
structure to it yet. And I've created a very simple structure.
It changed everything, And the first step was calling it
a gratitude walk. And that happened by accident. I was
on a gratitude walk in twenty twenty one. I was

(13:39):
on a walk and just being you know, it's impossible
not to look around, and you see the ocean, you
see the buildings, and you're just I was just so
grateful and see the birds flying, and you know sometimes
you see dolphins and manatees, and the flowers, the landscaping,
everything it's just so beautiful. And I was just feeling
so so grateful that in that moment, I decided to,

(14:01):
as we all do on social media, we post our walks,
we post whatever we're doing. Nobody ever engage with me
when I'm just posting walk. It's just a walk to
see a beautiful sight.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
Everybody, mind me sees that all the time. Right.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
But I wrote gratitude walk on it, and that did
two things I wasn't expecting. One, I got three dms
of people asking me what it's a gratitude walk, So
a light bulb. I'm like, oh, wait a minute, this
is inspiring people. They're asking me what a gratitude walk is? Well,

(14:34):
what is a gratitude walk? And I started thinking about it.
I was like, Okay, you're just grateful, simple as that.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
There was no before you go into that description because
you're just dropping gold. And I want to make sure
that we highlight that for our audience because there's a
few things that you touched on right one specifically with
the name right you said the first thing I wasn't
doing was not calling it gratitude was when I todled
it gratitude walk, it created a reaction in people, and

(15:02):
I think people sometimes don't understand the power of a
word and understand the power of what you know when
you think of a brand. If the brand had didn't
have the name didn't have the feeling the power of
a word and how you identified in your own things,
just even for your own brain, because not only did

(15:24):
it do something for you, but it also did something
for other people who saw it and said, all this
thing that he's doing has purpose. The word has purpose.
And one of the things we talk about on this
show so much is your mind doesn't know the difference
between reality and fake. It just intakes whatever you tell
it as truth. And so being able to name something

(15:45):
as a tool, being able to like, you know, tell
your brain and meditation when I meditate, I you know,
there's people that do guide in meditation and you just
try to stay quiet.

Speaker 4 (15:56):
And what's great.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
That other people say it, there's some thing different happens
in my body the moment I repeat, all good things
come to me.

Speaker 4 (16:06):
And that has power.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
So as another tool, the way you speak to yourself,
the way that you can create those moments in your day.
Like I'll talk about this real quick, and I want to
jump right back into gratitude walks because it's the reason
why I wanted to have you on the show, because
I'm seeing the transformation that is doing for yourself for
other people and Honestly, I just love the concept of
what you're building with it. But I was sharing with

(16:29):
Manning Manning Sumners another guess that we had who you
know as well, legacy fitness, force of nature and fitness
that it was really impressive to me. How when my
doctor explained to me the reason is my stomach was
failing or having a lot of distress was because my
mind was sending a signal to my body with the stress,

(16:52):
with the fear, with all this, like hey, I'm not okay.
The stomach has the same senses as your brand, and
by stomach started to react on that as okay, the
bodies we're in danger, guys. And then they would send
that same signal back to the brain as pain. And
so my doctor was explained to me that my pain
sensors were hiden, so I can probably I would most

(17:14):
likely not take pain very well because while other people
might feel pain once and your brain is not registered,
my stomach is sending in that signal daily to my
brain and my brain says you're fragile.

Speaker 4 (17:26):
And so in order to block.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
That, they take a small pill that is meant for
antidepression in order to block the signal and it's just
coming by surprise because I always used to say, oh man,
my stomach is feeling bad, I'm start feeling like crap.
Sudden and the moment I started to say, I'm actually
even with that discomfort. There's some discomfort, but I'm okay,

(17:50):
it's it's good.

Speaker 4 (17:51):
I'm good. I'm not gonna.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
Say the words matter, man, all of a sudden, my
stomach started to come yeah, without the pill. Like I
haven't even gotten in the prescription for the pill. This
this was I don't know, a couple of months ago
and I got taking prescriptions. I never even took it,
but I took the notion of well, that is so powerful,
and so I want to touch on that because you
touched on it right now. And I think it's such
a powerful thing, the way the power of a word

(18:15):
and what that what a name does to a huge everything, right,
what a name does to you.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
But I just bought a.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
Bag of sweet potatoes because on the bag it said, Hi,
I'm a bag of sweet potatoes.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
My best friend is Butter.

Speaker 4 (18:28):
I'll be like, I like this.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
I have a relationship with these guys. Just these sweet
potatoes introduced themselves to me.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
So I love that. And then the second thing, which
actually I found it interesting because it's a hard pill
to swallow for successful people, is the idea everything's a gift.
None of this is actually the concept of earned right.
It's like it's it's a gift that then we're good
shepherds of that gift with our discipline and stuff. But
like the gratitude and that word coming into you, you

(18:57):
having the mind that you did you even read just
doing that as the thing, it's it's a gift that
you didn't put into action. And again it's a hard
pill to swallow because as successful people, we think.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
It's all us.

Speaker 4 (19:08):
It's all us because I earned this money.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
Though, what are you talking about? It's not with that.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
I want to, you know, throw it right back at
you to talk about gratitude walks and so people d
end you.

Speaker 6 (19:18):
And where did it go from the second part was
and the words matter.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
It forced me to be more intentional on my walks.
I was like, it's called the gratitude walk. I'm calling
you the gratitude walk. Okay, I have to be more intentional,
think more about the things I'm grateful for. And and
I think I was probably doing maybe three to four
walks a week. It wasn't an everyday thing, but literally

(19:57):
one of the most beautiful walks you could do anywhere
in mine. It's so inspiring around brookle Key and all
that area. So it's a great way to start my day.
But it wasn't it wasn't mandatory, and one day I
was on my walk and for whatever reason, I'm like,
you know what, I'm going to create.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
A new rule on this walk.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
I am not allowed to think of anything I don't
already have. I'm only allowed to think about what I have.
I'm not allowed to think about what my dreams are.
I'm only allowed to think about that I'm living the
dream I once had.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
I have to. I'm gonna go apart and I'm going
to go through the line. I'm gonna go down the line.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
I'm going to think about that I live in the
most beautiful city in the world, that I have a
beautiful apartment, that I have a great job, that I
have great coworkers and people that inspire me all around me,
people that support me, my friends and family, and I
will literally go down the list and think about it.
But aside from just thinking about all those things, I'm
grateful for our mind is going to be our mind.

(20:57):
It goes on its own. I was going to every
single time that my mind would ever think about things
that weren't that.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
I would reel it back in. I would bring it
back to where I want it to be.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
And I was doing something so powerful without even realizing
what I was doing.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
And we have heard about neuroplasticity, and.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
Let's pretend I haven't, right, because I do think our
audience ranges, right.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
Yeah, So neuroplasticity basically is we wire our brains and
any of our habits or anytime you're reactionary to anything
that is, you have carved a pathway in your brain
where the electrical impulses are just going to go through.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
Just like you know, if you have a forest.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
And people continually use a path, you don't have to
tell anybody who's never been there before where to walk.
They see the path, they're going to take it. So
your electrical impulses in your brain do the same thing.
You've carved a path and they're going to continually go
that way. And in order to rewire that, to change
that path, you have to be intentional. You have to

(22:07):
be aware and every time your brain starts to go
in one direction, you got to veer it back.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
Into the direction you want it to go to. And
in doing so, just like walking through a forest, you'll start.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
Creating another path, and that path that other people aren't
using anymore. Pretty soon the trees start growing up again
and that path is gone.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
Right. So that's how our brain works. That's neuroplasticity, which is, man,
what a gift.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
What kind of freedom isn't knowing that I don't have
to behave the way I'm used.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
To behaving, that I can change that. And I'm going
to tell you how you can change it in the simplest.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
Way in the world, with the gratitude walks and why,
and I'm gonna explain it to you in a way
that it's going to make so much sense. And we
talked about this at dinner the other night or at
lunch or one of those days. If I was what
you consider it to be the ultimate in fitness and
being in shape, and you came to me and you say, hey, Alex.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
Bro I want to be in shape.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
Man, I'm tired of not being being in the kind
of shape that I'm in or the shape that I
want to be in.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
Can you help me out? Sure? Man, start coming out,
come every day, come work out with me, do what
I do and we're good. All right?

Speaker 4 (23:20):
Cool?

Speaker 2 (23:21):
When do we start tomorrow eight am and we finish
at midnight, It'll be like, oh what eight am and midnight?

Speaker 1 (23:29):
Yeah? I don't think so, bro, I don't want to
be in that kind of shape. Right.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
And when we're told that all we need to do
is practice gratitude, that's what we're asking people to do.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
We're asking them.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
To work out mentally from eight am to midnight. That's exhausting.
Can't nobody do that? Imagine if you had to think
about every time you had to breathe he didn't breathe out,
breath didn't breathe out, breathe in.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
How annoyed are you going to be by the end
of your day?

Speaker 4 (23:58):
Yeah, you've done yourself. Forget it. I'm not breathing.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
I was just telling yourself to break. You can't do
that all day. It's mentally exhausting, you know. But if
you do it for just an hour, If I say, look,
you only have to do it for an hour. It's
like when you go to the gym. You go to
the gym for an hour you work out consistently.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
You're gonna be in shape.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
You're not only in shape while you're at the gym.
You're not only in shape for that one hour a day.
You're in shape. So what I did, without even realizing
what I was doing, by using this one hour a
day to only think about the things that made me
happy and to think about the things that I'm grateful for,
I was working out my brain so that even when

(24:37):
I wasn't on my gratitude walk, eventually gratitude was my
default setting.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
Something happens in my day, My brain automatically on its.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
Own, without me thinking about it, finds light in the darkness,
finds calm and the chaos.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
Wow, what a superpower?

Speaker 2 (24:54):
Doesn't mean I don't get upset, doesn't mean people don't
rub me the wrong way. It means that I'm get
to identify it quickly and shift and sometimes it does
it on its own. Sometimes somebody does something super rude
to you or whatever, and you handle it like a
pro and then fifteen twenty minutes later you're like.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
Whoa, Oh my god, that was me.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
I used to never hear I would man, the only
would have ricked him a new one. Wow, I'm really changing.
This is amazing, and it starts happening so much faster
than you think. And it's not this long road that
you gotta wait years to do, you know. The way
I figured out what I did because I'd been like

(25:42):
that for a long time. So many people would ask
me all the time. They're like, Alex, Man, are you
ever in a bad mood? Every time I see you,
You're just great energy, You're always happy. And I remember
the first time somebody asked me that. It was probably
around twenty twenty, around that timeframe, and when they asked
me that, I was kind of taken aback, and I
looked around. I'm thinking, and I'm like, nah, I'm not

(26:04):
in No, I'm never in a bad mood. That's and
then I thought to myself, that's weird. Why am I
not in a bad mood? Doesn't mean I wouldn't get sad,
but it's not in a bad mood. I might have
a bad moment, I'm not a bad five to ten minutes,
but I don't have.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
A bad day.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
So over the years, people continue to ask me that,
to the point where it's become second nature.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
I'm just like, no, never in a bad mood, crazy,
can't believe it, you know what I mean. But then
on my gratitude.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
Walk, which is where you get the most creative when
you have that time, and then you introspect it and
you ask yourself so many questions. Okay, but why why
am I like that? I wasn't always like that. Yeah,
I've always been a good person. But I come from
a family that screamed at each other all the time.
It was super argumentative that I was just the mode

(26:53):
of operation. Right, So I'm like, how did I become
like this? And then I'm like, Bob went off. Oh
my gosh, I rewired my brain. Now I don't have
to think about it. Still have to I still have challenges,
but I don't have to think about it.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
Your daughter is just over too, right. Do you remember when.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
She was learning how to walk, how deliberate she was
with every step, how she would look to where she
had to go before she even attempted. She was planning
everything out because her brain wasn't wired yet. She was
having to tell herself, okay, my left foot, my right foot.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
She's like a year later, she's running across the room
not even thinking.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
And it's the same thing with gratitude, walks how we
rewire our brain. It literally happens just like that. At
the beginning. It's tough, it's uncomfortable, it doesn't feel natural.
Our brain wants to think about negative things our friend want.
Our brain wants to think about the person who talked
to us, our colleague who talked to us poorly the

(27:58):
other day, or somebody who might we feel I was
taking advantage of her. It's natural for us to think
about those things because we think we have to fix it,
so we have to come up with a plan and
this and that.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
But like, who think about it? All you want? Just
not on this hour. This is not the time.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
And if you can dedicate yourself to doing that one
hour a day, I don't care who you are, you're
changing your life. You will no longer be dependent on therapists.
I'm not saying therapy isn't good. That's a bonus. That's extra.
You could take control of your mind and your own
personal happiness and you yourself and it's free and it's

(28:40):
the laziest exercise.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
You can ever do in your life. It's a walk.
Like if you can walk, then you have no excuse.

Speaker 4 (28:49):
You know what, I mean Manning was saying.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
So I asked them, you know, you, being a fitness expert,
what is the best way to get someone into shape?
And he said, if I want to get I want
to shape. The first thing I tell them to do
is let's just walk. Get them moving and comfortable with
the idea of moving in order to do it. And

(29:13):
one of the things that I was watching the documentary
the other day about mental illnesses, they said that the
best form to process healing a mental injury is walking. Yes,
movement is tell your body to do the one organic thing.

Speaker 4 (29:30):
Which is to move. So I find that so powerful.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
I've been saying it for years, even before I realized
that I was rewiring my brain and all that.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
But every time I finished walking, I always felt great.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
Now, sometimes I do it in the middle of the day,
sometimes at night, sometimes in the morning. Now I exclusively
do them in the morning.

Speaker 4 (29:48):
But is there an importance to doing it in the morning.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
There is. I'm going to share that with you now.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
But I remember saying to myself, I'm like years ago,
like walking is the single greatest anti depressant known to mankind.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
I believe it. I don't care what anybody has to
say you can't monetize that though they don't want us
to know that, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
Anybody can walk. You don't need running shoes. Anybody can walk,
you know, practical just about anybody. But yes, mornings are
definitely the best, by a million miles. It's not even close.
The difference between walking at night and walking in the morning.
Number one, it helps stabilize your circadium rhythm right first

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thing in the morning.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
But when you walk, you're indoor.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
From the levels rise serotonin dopamine, you lower your cortisol levels,
so you have less stress.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
You're boosting your immune system, you're improving your blood circulation
and your cardiovascular your brain activity goes up. Does that
happen in them at night? Sure? But why is it
better in the morning.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
You just gave yourself a limitless effect. Why would you
do that before you're gonna go to sleep? Why wouldn't
you apply that first thing in the morning so then
you can benefit.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
From that the rest of your day.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
You're less likely to eat poorly, you're less likely to procrastinate,
you're less likely to lose motivation. You're at a high
every chemical in your brain and your body that you
need to be on a high is kickstarted.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
Your cortisol levels are lowered, cortersole levels are going to
rise throughout the day. It's gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
So why if you have this limitless effect, are you
gonna wait till eight o'clock at night to do It's like, oh,
well my schedule.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
Oh no, you're going to sleep too late, go.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
To sleep earlier, wake up earlier, or you wake up
at four in the morning, and that's and you got
to be your organ five, Well, then wake up at three.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
Figure it out now. You know, obviously there's some people
who have a family and this and that.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
There's always circumstances.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
But more times than not, I find people are always
making excuses and not if you really want something bad enough,
you figure it out. Successful people figure it out, right,
That's why they're successful.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
Like figure it out. And if I'm telling you that you.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
Can take control of your mind and your personal wellbeing
yourself and you don't have to depend on anybody, but
you got to get up to do it, and you're
not willing to do it, well, then nobody else.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
Can do it for you either, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (32:21):
Yeah, consistencies, what wins the battle right, And I think
that's both in fitness and business and life, the consistency
of something and the ability to wake up and do
that every day. Like you said, it starts creating that
new pathway, which is you explain it beautifully because sometimes
you know, people read it, or people go to church,
or people hear spiritual and they'll hear it and it's

(32:46):
like stepping into like clearing the first bushes. But then
it's like they go in and clear another bush, and
they clear another bush, and they clear another bush, and
they clear another bush and there's just a lot of
little bushes cleared, but not a pathway has created that
consistency and sane. I am going to stick to doing
gratitude walks, or I'm going to stick to doing morning meditation.
I'm going to stick to whatever. You know, the different

(33:07):
things are starts creating that pathway, and that pathway to
your point, it just becomes natural and starts changing.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
So and you know what, there's there's a there's a
danger that happens when you've created the pathway and now
you're good, You feel happier than you've ever been, so
you think you can I'm good, I don't need to
go on that gratitude walk, right And just like you know,
we talked about the trees regrowing in the forest, or
think about writing your name in the sand at the beach.

(33:35):
Those waves live life keeps on coming and it's going
to erase your name from the from from the sand.
And it's the same thing. You have to do it
and continue to do it all the benefits. You're getting
so many different benefits, and why wouldn't you, you know, like,
why wouldn't you? I average seven days a week, But
if I can't go one day, I'm not going to

(33:56):
beat myself up about it that day. I'm probably already
gonna thinking about gratitude anyway, because I'm already programmed that way.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
Being kind to yourself, I think, is something else to
touch on, right, because I I do know by experience.
I think self experience. Whether you go to the gym
and you start getting into rhythm and then something happens
and you're not able to go, or you get sick
or or you know, whatever, life comes up and then
people are like, oh, they start feeling hard that when
I go to the gym today, like my day's not great,
or I didn't get to do my gratitude walks. So

(34:24):
then all of a sudden, it's not like, how do
you what would you say to someone that that that
is sitting there with that idea of because we've all
gone through it, right, like whether it's at the gym,
or whether it's at work, or whether it's something like
we can't show up to that, yeah, you know, and
it creates this this this shock effect.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
Yeah, you know, like you almost feel out of balance.
If you don't go, you can it alter your your mood.
You can feel depressed or have it being a phone
because you didn't go. It's funny you mention that, because
I actually stopped going to the gym in July of
last year. So, oh, it's been almost almost a year,
you know, ten months something like that. And the reason

(35:04):
I stopped was because I realized I had become a slave.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
To working out.

Speaker 6 (35:11):
The days I didn't work out, or if I went
an extended amount of time without working.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
Out, I'd feel like a form of depression. I'd be sad.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
I felt like I was in a funk. And it's
so crazy. We're talking about the power of words and
it doesn't matter if it's true or if it's not true.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
We're going to believe it.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
I told myself, I'm like, you know what, fuck this.
I'm forty seven years old. I've been working out my
whole life. I've earned the right to not work out.
I don't have to work out for what. I'm not
training for the Olympics.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
I'm like, I'm done.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
But not only am I done, I'm never going to
be sad about it again. I'm going to be okay
with it because I've earned it well like that, there
was no.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
Carving a pathway.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
I didn't go work out the next day and I
was fine, And you know, I'm not going to go
into it, but there's a whole host of things that
started happening to me that actually benefited me.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
You know.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
Part of it is I started being more consistent with
my Gratitude Walk. Now my Gratitude Walk is a seven
day thing, so I'm still getting exercise because you have
to move, you have to move.

Speaker 4 (36:19):
Yeah, I was gonna say that.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
You know, people might hear it and say, oh, you know,
I'm going to say it and just watch television.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
No no, no, no, no, you have to make Alex said it.
I don't have to know, No, no, And look, man,
you got to know yourself. You know, that's what worked
for me.

Speaker 6 (36:33):
There's no right or wrong to this or like you know,
somebody might want to play tennis somebody, it doesn't matter
what you do now.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
The gratitude walk is a mental.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
Workout, also a physical workout, but then it's a physiological booster.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
So you're doing so many things.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
And that's why I say, and I don't care who's
out there with doctor.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
Who wants to say whatever.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
It is. The scene greatest tool and weapon that we
all have at our disposal to take control of our lives.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
Is gratitude walks.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
Because once you rewire your brain to find the light
and the darkness, to calm and the chaos, it's game changing.
There's nothing you can't do. And you know the law
of attraction. When you are a light, everybody's attracted to you.
People want to be around you. Other successful people want
to be around you, even when you're not. Maybe you're
not the most talented person.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
I don't care. That guy's amazing. I want to be
around him.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
I've gotten away with a lot of things in my
life where I didn't have the talent level that I
needed to do something, but people just wanted to be
around me because they knew it was going to be
a pleasurable work experience. You know, I lost my train
of thought because the first time on this show, I'm
surprised because normally.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
I would do that like five times by now.

Speaker 3 (37:55):
Now I think again, you touched on a lot of
great things for someone watching and someone listening, and they say, Okay, well,
maybe I do already walk, you know, maybe I do
already meditates, maybe I do already do yoga, or maybe
I do pilates, or I do a boot camp, or
I do F forty five or I do the thousand
and one other workouts in the morning. And that's really
helping me in my life to feel all the ways

(38:17):
that you're saying. But maybe there's something missing, and I
want to talk about gratitude something in mind.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
You can have cheese on a hamburger. It's not a pizza.
It's there cheese, Right, you have to put them together.
Journaling is great, great, meditation is great. It's the combination
of all of these things happening at once. It takes
this to another level.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
So I want to touch on that, right because I
think again, physical action forward there's there's a large amount
of popular of the population, especially now it's kind of
this health crace that the world's going through, and especially
here in the US, who is amazing, which I think
is incredible. You know, we're seeing more more places pop
up with is healthy food everything. I love all that, right,
But I want to touch on gratitude because I think

(39:07):
beyond the walk, just the word and the power, gratitude
is the transformation of rewiring your brain. Why do you
think gratitude regardless if you're doing you know, meditation, journaling,
or if you're doing yoga or whatever. Else are the
other things that we talked about. What is it about
gratitude that changes the game, Because to me, that is

(39:32):
the sauce in what you're doing and what you know
some people do in journaling, right like gratitude journaling is
impactful because this gratitude component of that does something. What
is the importance of gratitude and why should people, regardless
of their extensive activity they agree with your idea of
walking or not, should apply gratitude to the way they
wake up in the morning.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
Well, I mean, first of all, nothing brings you to
the here and now this very second, the way gratitude does.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
This is not a.

Speaker 4 (40:00):
Popular deliberate.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
Don't worry, I know, I know.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
Nothing brings you to the present like gratitude. It forces
you to be here. Part of the reason why people
there's a lot of unhappiness in the world. There's people
are living either in the past or they're thinking about
the future.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
They're forgetting about this very second.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
The only one that exists. The past is a memory.
The future is just your imagination. And if you worry
about this second and do this second, great, your next
second is going to be better because of it.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
So the future is going to take care of itself.
And gratitude allows you to do that.

Speaker 4 (40:49):
Gratitude walks.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
We talked about the gifts, We talked about reading, We
talked about all these things that you have action in
your life in order to as form and create these
new pathways in your brain is allowing you to live
closer to the life.

Speaker 4 (41:04):
That you want.

Speaker 3 (41:06):
Now, I want to talk about the other part. What
are the things that Alex struggles with one of the
things that Alex is working on every day. What are
the things that hunt them? What are the things that
create actions, What are the things that make you afraid
let's touch on the other.

Speaker 4 (41:22):
Side of Alex. Right.

Speaker 3 (41:23):
What I've loved about having this environment, to this place
of openness with our guests is that every guest that
I've had here I brought on because they've had a
level of maturity in a muscle called that success, called
that you know, gratitude walks where they've been able to
use a tool in their lives because of their experience

(41:44):
because of that, like you said, the six to eight
of Lebron James, that allow them to get But then
the other component, which is that we are humans and
we are dealing with trauma, and we are dealing with
life lessons that we're not the positive ones. We are listening,
and we are dealing in a society that is trying
to teach us every day that you're in need of

(42:05):
something else, and it creates a void. And part of
the conversation is really to be okay to expose that
and take the cape off the heroes, right, so that
people watching at home or people listening also understand that
even the people that they admire, they look forward, they say, wow,
that person is so happy, is viewing their lives also
through another filter that they're working on and that they're

(42:27):
transitioning in order to be a you know, in order
to free themselves to live the life of their dreams.
Right gratitude walks has helped you a lot. I've seen
the transformation for me, you know, really focusing on the
internal work. Conversations like this have really helped me learn
things that. You know, sometimes we think we noid all,
you know. Sometimes it's again I was telling some of

(42:48):
our other guests the other time, which is just like
success has a funny way of making you think that
you haven't figured out and they honest stand this as
this show has shown and our guests I show here,
we don't get an age and age.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
As you get older and you start thinking I'm older
than you, I know.

Speaker 3 (43:08):
Exactly, So what are those things that are that are
lessons you're learning, that are things that are part of
your growth.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
When you say fear and I know, you know this
is gonna sound like bullshit, but I don't have any
of those because I know somehow, some way I'm gonna
figure it out and it's whatever I'm going through is
gonna serve me.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
And I I've felt like that for some quite some
time now, So I don't get fearful.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
I know something's good, it's gonna work out somehow, And
I think I've kind of always had that part of
it is not nativity.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
Did I say that word right?

Speaker 4 (43:40):
Always messed up with negativity?

Speaker 2 (43:42):
Nay, nay, naive you do neativity.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
It's a hard word to say. Don't edit that out.
That part I don't have.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
But I think one of the things I continually struggle
with it, and I'm getting better at it.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
But I'm aware.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
And once you aware of something, that's when you really
throwing gasoline on getting on getting past it. But a
lot of times I do without not intentionally think I
have it figured out, and somebody will start saying something
and I'm just like, this person doesn't know what the
hell they're talking about, and I just my brain just
shuts them out and I don't listen a lot of times.

(44:22):
Then when I come back, I'm like, you know, when
I'm by myself, just like man like, when you're so
that's that's another problem, not a problem, the issues with
being so self aware.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
You're really hard on yourself because you see all your
flaws right, so you want it.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
You're trying to especially when you're trying to fix them
all the time, and then that can You got to
be careful not to get in this rhythm where you're
always trying to fix something, because then you start thinking
you're broken, you know. But I think me, you know,
there's some stubbornness that I've had to work on my
whole life, being more open minded, which is crazy because
I consider my that's the that's the weird dichotomy about things.

(44:58):
You could be super open minded, but then at the
same time sometimes you're closed minded.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
Like it.

Speaker 3 (45:03):
I really want to touch on this as we come
in to the end of our talk together.

Speaker 4 (45:10):
On some really key points, You're right.

Speaker 3 (45:13):
One is the concept of gratitude is the concept that
you are one hundred and ten percent perfectly fine.

Speaker 4 (45:25):
It allows you to resink yourself with the idea of
when you were a child, which is that you are
in perfect and divine order. You are aligned with.

Speaker 3 (45:35):
The true essence of this place, the true reality of
this place, which is that you never needed anything else.
You never needed the extra close, you never needed all
that shame that got brought on by you not had
been something but you having to reach for financial success,
or reach for fame, or reach even for religion as

(45:55):
a sense to feel correct. You are already whole, and
gratitude allows you to center yourself to live in the
only moment that matters, which is something you said, Which
is now. That's the first thing. Second thing I took
from your conversation is the power of movement, the power
of getting yourself up and moving in order to do

(46:19):
what you were intended to do. Your whole body was
created for movement. You were giving legs for a reason.
You're not giving fins to go swim.

Speaker 4 (46:27):
You were giving legs.

Speaker 3 (46:28):
That power of movement. Third, be kind to yourself, no
matter at what stage you are of success of life,
no matter how awake you think you are. The reality
is that our human struggle is that, because of all
the things we discussed, we tend to not be kind

(46:49):
to ourselves. We tend to be kinder to people. We
tend to want to do good for other people. We
tend to want to prioritize other people's necessity for our time.
We rarely prioritize it for ourselves. We're rarely speaking likely
to ourselves. We tend to be hard person you can
speak to, which is just the most important person, And
with that that leads us to an exercise we love

(47:12):
to do with our guests every single time. You, more
than anybody, know the power of words. So what is
one word or one phrase that Alex today, the inside
of Alex, the mind of Alex, the spirit of Alex
needs to hear.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
That's easy. Anybody knows me knows.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
I used to be embarrassed to say this because you
feel a certain kind of way. I feel like you're
not worthy. But I am the embodiment of love in
the flesh. I don't have to love anybody. I am love,
and so if I am love, then I'm going to
love you and I'm going to love me. So my
phrase is definitely spread love, only love. That's the answer

(47:56):
for me for everything. It's tattooed right here on my arm.
I created a little a logo of a heart here
with a with arrows as if it's expanding. I think
that's the answer to everything. Inject love into it. You
don't know what to do, and inject love into it.
It gives you grace, It gives you understanding.

Speaker 6 (48:17):
When you go around everything you touch, sprinkling love on it,
Eventually the only thing you can see is.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
Love all around you.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
You're creating a better environment for you to live in,
and by default one of the another beautiful thing that
happened to me was it now when people are around me,
because of the way I carry myself and because of
how used to they are of me being that intentional,
I get a better version of everybody else. They're like,

(48:50):
I can't show Alex this side of me. I got
to be a little bit better in front of him.
So I'm creating this fantasy world where everybody's just a
little bit nicer because I'm nicer.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
So we get to live in this world that we paint.

Speaker 4 (49:08):
It's so Alex, thank you for being a part of
you versus you.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
I've enjoyed our conversation and first of money, and I'm
really grateful for you to come here and share this
time with me because I do think a lot of
your philosophy of life is will be healthy for people
and will be things that people can apply to live
a better life and spread love.

Speaker 6 (49:27):
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