An anti-incumbent movement may have gotten Trump elected twice, is this along with California ineptitude ushering in an anti politician movement?? Might this be the ultimate legacy of Trumpism?? We discuss this with senior contributor Dave Zanotti.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Previously on your Morning show with Michael del Joono.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
So, David, here's something interesting. In addition, we went over
those numbers. Nobody reads newspapers anymore in payper form. And
I used to always say to people, yeah, but you're
you're still reading them because most of the stuff that
you're reading online and sharing is coming from newspaper. Well,
then they had to get aggressive, and now people got
(00:26):
to pay for it, and they're not only to pay
for it. But I don't even think in my wildest dreams,
I would have ever said digital readership of the Washington
Post is down ninety percent and down to two million.
We saw this with these cable primetime shows. I made
a comment to you off the air. I remember you
kind of we were taken back by it, but I
(00:47):
was like, you know, some of these networks they don't
have the ratings I had in Tulsa, Oklahoma in nineteen
ninety five. I mean, I don't even know how they're
paying all these salaries for all these big goes and
nobody's watching. And now, from Megan Kelly to Tucker Carlson,
they proved you're better off leaving. Glenn Beck may have
(01:08):
been first Sean Hannity. Maybe next I don't know, but
I mean ninety percent. Where's the business model.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Well, there is no business model. It's just like, let's
go back to Sorry, Michael, it's just like, let's go
back to California for a second.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
At the bottom, I'm gonna give you. I'm gonna give
you a chance to clear your throat for a second.
Thank you, because David gave me the disease I'm dying of,
and I'm accepting the blame.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Rud me.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
It was a hug at Serato's restaurant, which was a
great meal. It was worth the illness almost. That's how
good theirs steak is.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
One California. There it goes meats to blake California. Think
about what you just said, what the new story just was.
While the whole country is watching these people suffer, the legislature,
which has been built up with the minions of the
sous progressive money and the Democrat Party is still busy
(02:07):
at work doing there. Let's reconstruct the world according to
the progressive agenda. There's just one problem with that agenda.
It doesn't work. It's really good until somebody gets punched
in the face or starts a fire. It it doesn't work,
they have a ruling class decide to do everything. Take
sixty percent of your money and give you the rest
(02:28):
to go party, and then for government to be the
biggest participants in gambling and drugs and legalization of all
of this stuff. Just let them eat cake. This is
what they did to California because personal responsibility disappeared for
political enterprise and no focus on earthquakes, no focus on
(02:49):
one slides, no focus on filled reservoirs and.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Fire prevention, knowing you're going to have annual fires in
sant Anawins. I think the dere election of duty to
the priorities. You know, we used to always talk about,
you know, what is the proper size and role of government?
That's a question that's never asked, let alone answered. What
is the role and the responsibility to self governed. I mean,
when you're looking at a mayor like what has been
demonstrated to the nation going on in Los Angeles. Her
(03:14):
number one responsibility is public safety. But what was she doing?
She was cutting the fire department, not raising it. Well,
if we dare, we could take this to an even
further level. What this is all about is the philosophical
movement for autonomy, which is dependent upon the idea that
you can create a utopian world because bad stuff just
(03:36):
doesn't happen if we wish it away. And that's the
And every now and then we get mugged by reality
and somebody says, gee, what were we thinking or why
weren't we thinking about this? Why didn't we just do
this and this and this for the last three years,
And then sure there would have been a fire, but
we would have been ready because we're busy chasing the
(03:57):
utopian fantasies. And all of that comes from a philosophical
desire to be completely independent from reality, which is that
we live in a fallen world and bad stuff happens
in the natural order, and the first responsibility of government
is for us to get together and plan for the
bad stuff, so when it happens, we're not throwing political
barbs at each other. We're solving the problem. Yeah, there's
(04:19):
a difference between response and reaction. Reaction is for the unprepared,
responses for the prepared. They certainly should have been more prepared,
all right, David Sinati closing moments.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
By the way, Michael, nobody likes it when we talk
like this, I know that, Oh well, I was just
going to get to the one plus one plus one
doesn't always equal just three.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
So you know, I want to come full circle back
to we went from a referendum election in twenty sixteen
and outsider election against incumbents to what I think now
is an anti politician movement. I don't think anybody could
say it better than the owner of the La Times
that you know, these professional politicians are great at making
(05:05):
themselves wealthy, but they're that great at getting a condition
for the people to prosper. They are great at winning offices,
they're not great at governing once they're in them. Maybe
we need to get away from politicians and get to
people who really control business and get this which could
be the future of trump Ism and the movement away.
I want to I want to share. Some of these
(05:25):
numbers are nothing new, but it kind of it becomes
what we saw with FEMA and North Carolina. Now the
fire here, the warfare against Trump and how that backfired,
the death of journalism now turning into decomposition, the old
fashioned Gallop poll of how we perceive professions based on
(05:46):
honesty and ethics, and as somebody did research on my life.
I can tell you don't look at the in between.
You want to look at the extremes. So you want
to look at the major positive and the major negative.
Notice COVID where doctors are. I can't even imagine if
you asked CDC World Health Organization. At the top of
(06:09):
the list of major positive perceptions of professions nurses, not doctors,
grade school teachers, military officers. Now you want to go
to the extreme major negatives? What was this always traditional? Lawyers,
used car salesmen, used car salesmen, and members of Congress
(06:32):
right now number one on the list TV reporters. TV
has lost its credibility. Members of Congress is next, and
then lobbyists.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
There's people couldn't describe what one is.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Yeah, but there's damage at an irreparable level. And I
think people can see the death of newspapers or the
death of cable US versus them, titillate and scare and
all that kind of fiery nonsense, which kind of is
what yesterday's hearings felt like. That would have been business
(07:12):
as usual four years ago. But right now, fifty four
percent of America are supportive of Donald Trump's transition. They're
hopeful and excited over sixty percent about his presidency. They're playing.
I don't have a better analogy than when Total pulled
the curtain, And if you remember, the wizard looks back.
He knows he's exposed, but he goes back for ten
(07:34):
seconds and tries to keep doing knobs and scare of.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Them pay no attention to.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Right, you can't keep doing it, and yet they try,
and there's a business model for it. They're going bankrupt.
I don't know that, and I don't delighten anybody's misfortune.
Radio certainly might have some challenges in the future and
could be next if it's not careful. But some of
this harm is irreparable, right.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
I mean, because it all comes down to a single word, Michael,
and that's trust. When you lose it, it's often impossible
to recover. And this is what's happened. What did I
tell you?
Speaker 2 (08:09):
I said the CDC should go away because those three
letters will never have any credibility in my mind. Again,
the who the World Health ought to go away. Just
create a new one. This one. You can't repair this one.
It's so damage. Same could be said for news, same
could be said for newspapers, could the same be said
for partisan parties.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Well, and here's my warning. Forgive me, but it has
to happen. Beware the Senate over the next two years.
There are people hiding in the Senate that are philosophical progressives,
regardless of their party affiliation, and they will do everything
they can to make certain that Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Does not succeed.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
They won't necessarily set them to fail. They tried all that.
They just don't want them to succeed. And this is
where people from the bottom up are going to have
to fight to restore trusted leadership, and that starts at
the bottom.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Sure, because I'm sick, but also because it was necessary,
we went over time on our weekly visit with d Z.
Thanks so much for your time, David.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Miss a little, miss a lot, miss a lot, and
we'll miss you. It's your morning show with Michael del Churno.
Previously on your Morning show with Michael del Joono.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
So, David, here's something interesting. In addition, we went over
those numbers. Nobody reads newspapers anymore in payper form. And
I used to always say to people, yeah, but you're
you're still reading them because most of the stuff that
you're reading online and sharing is coming from newspaper. Well,
then they had to get aggressive, and now people got
(00:26):
to pay for it, and they're not only to pay
for it. But I don't even think in my wildest dreams,
I would have ever said digital readership of the Washington
Post is down ninety percent and down to two million.
We saw this with these cable primetime shows. I made
a comment to you off the air. I remember you
kind of we were taken back by it, but I
(00:47):
was like, you know, some of these networks they don't
have the ratings I had in Tulsa, Oklahoma in nineteen
ninety five. I mean, I don't even know how they're
paying all these salaries for all these big goes and
nobody's watching. And now, from Megan Kelly to Tucker Carlson,
they proved you're better off leaving. Glenn Beck may have
(01:08):
been first Sean Hannity. Maybe next I don't know, but
I mean ninety percent. Where's the business model.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Well, there is no business model. It's just like, let's
go back to Sorry, Michael, it's just like, let's go
back to California for a second.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
At the bottom, I'm gonna give you. I'm gonna give
you a chance to clear your throat for a second.
Thank you, because David gave me the disease I'm dying of,
and I'm accepting the blame.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Rud me.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
It was a hug at Serato's restaurant, which was a
great meal. It was worth the illness almost. That's how
good theirs steak is.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
One California. There it goes meats to blake California. Think
about what you just said, what the new story just was.
While the whole country is watching these people suffer, the legislature,
which has been built up with the minions of the
sous progressive money and the Democrat Party is still busy
(02:07):
at work doing there. Let's reconstruct the world according to
the progressive agenda. There's just one problem with that agenda.
It doesn't work. It's really good until somebody gets punched
in the face or starts a fire. It it doesn't work,
they have a ruling class decide to do everything. Take
sixty percent of your money and give you the rest
(02:28):
to go party, and then for government to be the
biggest participants in gambling and drugs and legalization of all
of this stuff. Just let them eat cake. This is
what they did to California because personal responsibility disappeared for
political enterprise and no focus on earthquakes, no focus on
(02:49):
one slides, no focus on filled reservoirs and.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Fire prevention, knowing you're going to have annual fires in
sant Anawins. I think the dere election of duty to
the priorities. You know, we used to always talk about,
you know, what is the proper size and role of government?
That's a question that's never asked, let alone answered. What
is the role and the responsibility to self governed. I mean,
when you're looking at a mayor like what has been
demonstrated to the nation going on in Los Angeles. Her
(03:14):
number one responsibility is public safety. But what was she doing?
She was cutting the fire department, not raising it. Well,
if we dare, we could take this to an even
further level. What this is all about is the philosophical
movement for autonomy, which is dependent upon the idea that
you can create a utopian world because bad stuff just
(03:36):
doesn't happen if we wish it away. And that's the
And every now and then we get mugged by reality
and somebody says, gee, what were we thinking or why
weren't we thinking about this? Why didn't we just do
this and this and this for the last three years,
And then sure there would have been a fire, but
we would have been ready because we're busy chasing the
(03:57):
utopian fantasies. And all of that comes from a philosophical
desire to be completely independent from reality, which is that
we live in a fallen world and bad stuff happens
in the natural order, and the first responsibility of government
is for us to get together and plan for the
bad stuff, so when it happens, we're not throwing political
barbs at each other. We're solving the problem. Yeah, there's
(04:19):
a difference between response and reaction. Reaction is for the unprepared,
responses for the prepared. They certainly should have been more prepared,
all right, David Sinati closing moments.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
By the way, Michael, nobody likes it when we talk
like this, I know that, Oh well, I was just
going to get to the one plus one plus one
doesn't always equal just three.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
So you know, I want to come full circle back
to we went from a referendum election in twenty sixteen
and outsider election against incumbents to what I think now
is an anti politician movement. I don't think anybody could
say it better than the owner of the La Times
that you know, these professional politicians are great at making
(05:05):
themselves wealthy, but they're that great at getting a condition
for the people to prosper. They are great at winning offices,
they're not great at governing once they're in them. Maybe
we need to get away from politicians and get to
people who really control business and get this which could
be the future of trump Ism and the movement away.
I want to I want to share. Some of these
(05:25):
numbers are nothing new, but it kind of it becomes
what we saw with FEMA and North Carolina. Now the
fire here, the warfare against Trump and how that backfired,
the death of journalism now turning into decomposition, the old
fashioned Gallop poll of how we perceive professions based on
(05:46):
honesty and ethics, and as somebody did research on my life.
I can tell you don't look at the in between.
You want to look at the extremes. So you want
to look at the major positive and the major negative.
Notice COVID where doctors are. I can't even imagine if
you asked CDC World Health Organization. At the top of
(06:09):
the list of major positive perceptions of professions nurses, not doctors,
grade school teachers, military officers. Now you want to go
to the extreme major negatives? What was this always traditional? Lawyers,
used car salesmen, used car salesmen, and members of Congress
(06:32):
right now number one on the list TV reporters. TV
has lost its credibility. Members of Congress is next, and
then lobbyists.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
There's people couldn't describe what one is.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Yeah, but there's damage at an irreparable level. And I
think people can see the death of newspapers or the
death of cable US versus them, titillate and scare and
all that kind of fiery nonsense, which kind of is
what yesterday's hearings felt like. That would have been business
(07:12):
as usual four years ago. But right now, fifty four
percent of America are supportive of Donald Trump's transition. They're
hopeful and excited over sixty percent about his presidency. They're playing.
I don't have a better analogy than when Total pulled
the curtain, And if you remember, the wizard looks back.
He knows he's exposed, but he goes back for ten
(07:34):
seconds and tries to keep doing knobs and scare of.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Them pay no attention to.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Right, you can't keep doing it, and yet they try,
and there's a business model for it. They're going bankrupt.
I don't know that, and I don't delighten anybody's misfortune.
Radio certainly might have some challenges in the future and
could be next if it's not careful. But some of
this harm is irreparable, right.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
I mean, because it all comes down to a single word, Michael,
and that's trust. When you lose it, it's often impossible
to recover. And this is what's happened. What did I
tell you?
Speaker 2 (08:09):
I said the CDC should go away because those three
letters will never have any credibility in my mind. Again,
the who the World Health ought to go away. Just
create a new one. This one. You can't repair this one.
It's so damage. Same could be said for news, same
could be said for newspapers, could the same be said
for partisan parties.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Well, and here's my warning. Forgive me, but it has
to happen. Beware the Senate over the next two years.
There are people hiding in the Senate that are philosophical progressives,
regardless of their party affiliation, and they will do everything
they can to make certain that Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Does not succeed.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
They won't necessarily set them to fail. They tried all that.
They just don't want them to succeed. And this is
where people from the bottom up are going to have
to fight to restore trusted leadership, and that starts at
the bottom.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Sure, because I'm sick, but also because it was necessary,
we went over time on our weekly visit with d Z.
Thanks so much for your time, David.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Miss a little, miss a lot, miss a lot, and
we'll miss you. It's your morning show with Michael del Churno.
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