TikTok is preparing for a potential shutdown this weekend. National Correspondent RORY O’NEILL explains why.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Previously on Your Morning Show with Michael dil Choonho.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
The narrative was set today who gets credit for the
ceasefire in the hostage exchange. Is it Donald Trump who
said if those hostages aren't released by the time I
take office, all hell's going to break loose? Or Joe Biden,
who has been fumbling from the very beginning to try
to figure out which side he's on.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Well, meanwhilehile, that's all going on.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
The whole deal has already fallen through This morning, Israeli
Prime Minister's office claims Hamas is backing out of some
of its agreements in the hostage release deal. The Palestinian
militant group made a ceasefire and hostage deal with Israel
on Wednesday that would include Hamas releasing dozens of hostages
in exchange for Palestinian prisoners. Today, the Israeli Prime Minister
releases a statement They've been nigged on the understandings. There's
(00:45):
a last minute crisis in this agreement, and the Israeli
Cabinet will not even convene on this issue until we
see some changes. What are those changes? Roy O'Neil is
joining us. Rory. My presumption is it has to do
with hostages. My suspicion all along is they got a
problem because most of these hostages are not alive. It
(01:07):
could be what has been the wrinkle in this all
along has come to the surface even after everybody's taking
a victory lap.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Not so fast, right, Yeah, And.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
Hamas has also said they are not necessarily guaranteed to
be able to locate all of the hostages in this mix.
And this really is supposed to set off a series
of different mile posts along the way, goalposts along the way,
because this is not a one and done. This is
really supposed to kick off six weeks of much more
intense negotiations to find something more permanent. You know, this
(01:40):
would be the second cease fire since this conflict began
back in October of twenty twenty three. And you know,
let's see if this is just a speed bump or
something that derails this whole agreement.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
So when it comes to Israel, the Democrat Party is
very divided. There are those that are very quite frankly
pro Palestinian and those that are very pro Israel. This
has been an eye problem, an Israel problem for this administration.
And that's why they struggled at the beginning. The president
came out immediately and said there's no distance between us
and Israel, and then he got some pressure from his party,
and then they try to play it both ways. It
(02:13):
is interesting that as he leaves office on the evening,
he takes credit and then delivers his farewell address, that
this blows up in his face again because and I
think the wrinkle is, to your point, they're either not
alive and they know it, and they're not alive to
turn over, or they really have lost track of them.
(02:34):
I don't think that they can comply with this. There's
some kind of a yeah. I mean, that's a problem
that can't be overcome until they come clean.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Right and obviously, because in Israel, the hostage situation is paramount,
like they don't care about anything else but getting the
hostages returned sadly dead and alive, because they want the bodies.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Back for proper burials according to their faith.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Want these hostages return at any cost, which has been
one of the reasons that there's been a lot of
anger directed at Netanyahu among the Israelis. He was already
unpopular going into this. Some have accused him of trying
to drag it out so he can hold on to power.
And there have been people taking to the streets for
months now just saying, just make a deal, get the
(03:22):
hostages home.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Well, it's a dance, and if you live in Israel,
it's a dance you're used to. They get emboldened, they
take in action, They carry out a terrorist attack, they
take hostages because that's their ticket to exiting Israel pounds
them and then eventually they release the hostages. Everybody lays
low for a decade until the next attack. And so
that's why I said, my trouble with this one is
(03:44):
I don't think these hostages are alive, and this is
going to be a real problem in order in achieving
and it's already blown up overnight.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
All right.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
I'm looking at the Palisades fire. It's at twenty one
percent containment. I believe yesterday was eighteen percent. The Eating
fires at forty five percent containment. I believe it was
at forty two percent. We've got favorable weather conditions for
the next three to four days and then they get
bad again in five. They got to make remarkable progress
in these three or four days, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
They really do.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
And the fact that they made progress in the past
twenty four hours is pretty remarkable considering the winds were
supposed to undo a lot of the progress that they
had been making so far. So we've got increasing humidity
winds coming off the ocean now in the next few days.
That's going to keep things cool and a bit more
moist in the air, and the chance of some showers
(04:36):
developing slight chance, but still it's there. So yeah, to
your point, with all the help that's in from Mexico
and Canada and I think thirty plus other states, this
is when they've got to pounds and get a handle
on this because those winds are going to be back
early next week.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
TikTok says, we're shutting down America Sunday. Meanwhile, President elect
Donald Trump says, I'm going to use an executive order
that'll save TikTok from ban or sale. Congress of course
has to say but this would cause a delay. You know,
I can't come up with a better analogy, Rory than
And I'm not a TikTok user, my kids are. But
(05:13):
it's like the warning on the cigarette pack. We all
know the danger. We want to smoke.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
We like it.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
I don't know what's going on with this.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
Well, how much did big tobacco have to pay? Right,
you know, that's the other shoe there. But look, there's
also this data going to the Chinese government, you know,
and twelve thirteen year olds are using this, maybe not
smart enough to understand the label on the cigarettes and
what it could mean for their long term future, you know,
if they want a career in the CIA. Well, the
(05:42):
China's got a full dossier of what they've been up to,
you know, from the time they were twelve to the
time they were twenty two.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
So the really question of the hour is an incoming
president saying I'm going to do an executive order and
then he has control of the Congress with his party.
Are they going to pursue fighting that because he knows
he's already got the I mean, they would know they
have the court on their side. This has gotten really crazy.
So bottom line is is TikTok going away? My kids
are worried every day.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Is TikTok going away? I don't know? Not tell it away? Yeah,
it's not going away.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
All they're going to do is you can't download a
new version of it starting on Sunday. If this passes.
We're still waiting on the Supreme Court to rule here.
They've got the case to decide whether or not this
whole thing is constitutional.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
But the app does not go away.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
It simply won't be supported, so it'll sort of wither
and die on the vine instead. And then we've also
gotten word now that the President of TikTok is getting
a good seat at the inauguration. So clearly the administration,
the incoming administration is on TikTok side, which is a.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Bit of a reversal, and probably the.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
New Secretary of State isn't so happy about that.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Roy O'Neil has always great reporting.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
We'll talk again tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Miss a little, miss a lot, miss a lot, and
we'll miss you. It's your morning show with Michael del Cherno.
Previously on Your Morning Show with Michael dil Choonho.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
The narrative was set today who gets credit for the
ceasefire in the hostage exchange. Is it Donald Trump who
said if those hostages aren't released by the time I
take office, all hell's going to break loose? Or Joe Biden,
who has been fumbling from the very beginning to try
to figure out which side he's on.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Well, meanwhilehile, that's all going on.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
The whole deal has already fallen through This morning, Israeli
Prime Minister's office claims Hamas is backing out of some
of its agreements in the hostage release deal. The Palestinian
militant group made a ceasefire and hostage deal with Israel
on Wednesday that would include Hamas releasing dozens of hostages
in exchange for Palestinian prisoners. Today, the Israeli Prime Minister
releases a statement They've been nigged on the understandings. There's
(00:45):
a last minute crisis in this agreement, and the Israeli
Cabinet will not even convene on this issue until we
see some changes. What are those changes? Roy O'Neil is
joining us. Rory. My presumption is it has to do
with hostages. My suspicion all along is they got a
problem because most of these hostages are not alive. It
(01:07):
could be what has been the wrinkle in this all
along has come to the surface even after everybody's taking
a victory lap.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Not so fast, right, Yeah, And.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
Hamas has also said they are not necessarily guaranteed to
be able to locate all of the hostages in this mix.
And this really is supposed to set off a series
of different mile posts along the way, goalposts along the way,
because this is not a one and done. This is
really supposed to kick off six weeks of much more
intense negotiations to find something more permanent. You know, this
(01:40):
would be the second cease fire since this conflict began
back in October of twenty twenty three. And you know,
let's see if this is just a speed bump or
something that derails this whole agreement.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
So when it comes to Israel, the Democrat Party is
very divided. There are those that are very quite frankly
pro Palestinian and those that are very pro Israel. This
has been an eye problem, an Israel problem for this administration.
And that's why they struggled at the beginning. The president
came out immediately and said there's no distance between us
and Israel, and then he got some pressure from his party,
and then they try to play it both ways. It
(02:13):
is interesting that as he leaves office on the evening,
he takes credit and then delivers his farewell address, that
this blows up in his face again because and I
think the wrinkle is, to your point, they're either not
alive and they know it, and they're not alive to
turn over, or they really have lost track of them.
(02:34):
I don't think that they can comply with this. There's
some kind of a yeah. I mean, that's a problem
that can't be overcome until they come clean.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Right and obviously, because in Israel, the hostage situation is paramount,
like they don't care about anything else but getting the
hostages returned sadly dead and alive, because they want the bodies.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Back for proper burials according to their faith.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Want these hostages return at any cost, which has been
one of the reasons that there's been a lot of
anger directed at Netanyahu among the Israelis. He was already
unpopular going into this. Some have accused him of trying
to drag it out so he can hold on to power.
And there have been people taking to the streets for
months now just saying, just make a deal, get the
(03:22):
hostages home.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Well, it's a dance, and if you live in Israel,
it's a dance you're used to. They get emboldened, they
take in action, They carry out a terrorist attack, they
take hostages because that's their ticket to exiting Israel pounds
them and then eventually they release the hostages. Everybody lays
low for a decade until the next attack. And so
that's why I said, my trouble with this one is
(03:44):
I don't think these hostages are alive, and this is
going to be a real problem in order in achieving
and it's already blown up overnight.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
All right.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
I'm looking at the Palisades fire. It's at twenty one
percent containment. I believe yesterday was eighteen percent. The Eating
fires at forty five percent containment. I believe it was
at forty two percent. We've got favorable weather conditions for
the next three to four days and then they get
bad again in five. They got to make remarkable progress
in these three or four days, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
They really do.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
And the fact that they made progress in the past
twenty four hours is pretty remarkable considering the winds were
supposed to undo a lot of the progress that they
had been making so far. So we've got increasing humidity
winds coming off the ocean now in the next few days.
That's going to keep things cool and a bit more
moist in the air, and the chance of some showers
(04:36):
developing slight chance, but still it's there. So yeah, to
your point, with all the help that's in from Mexico
and Canada and I think thirty plus other states, this
is when they've got to pounds and get a handle
on this because those winds are going to be back
early next week.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
TikTok says, we're shutting down America Sunday. Meanwhile, President elect
Donald Trump says, I'm going to use an executive order
that'll save TikTok from ban or sale. Congress of course
has to say but this would cause a delay. You know,
I can't come up with a better analogy, Rory than
And I'm not a TikTok user, my kids are. But
(05:13):
it's like the warning on the cigarette pack. We all
know the danger. We want to smoke.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
We like it.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
I don't know what's going on with this.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
Well, how much did big tobacco have to pay? Right,
you know, that's the other shoe there. But look, there's
also this data going to the Chinese government, you know,
and twelve thirteen year olds are using this, maybe not
smart enough to understand the label on the cigarettes and
what it could mean for their long term future, you know,
if they want a career in the CIA. Well, the
(05:42):
China's got a full dossier of what they've been up to,
you know, from the time they were twelve to the
time they were twenty two.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
So the really question of the hour is an incoming
president saying I'm going to do an executive order and
then he has control of the Congress with his party.
Are they going to pursue fighting that because he knows
he's already got the I mean, they would know they
have the court on their side. This has gotten really crazy.
So bottom line is is TikTok going away? My kids
are worried every day.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Is TikTok going away? I don't know? Not tell it away? Yeah,
it's not going away.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
All they're going to do is you can't download a
new version of it starting on Sunday. If this passes.
We're still waiting on the Supreme Court to rule here.
They've got the case to decide whether or not this
whole thing is constitutional.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
But the app does not go away.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
It simply won't be supported, so it'll sort of wither
and die on the vine instead. And then we've also
gotten word now that the President of TikTok is getting
a good seat at the inauguration. So clearly the administration,
the incoming administration is on TikTok side, which is a.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Bit of a reversal, and probably the.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
New Secretary of State isn't so happy about that.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Roy O'Neil has always great reporting.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
We'll talk again tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Miss a little, miss a lot, miss a lot, and
we'll miss you. It's your morning show with Michael del Cherno.
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