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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:36):
Yeah, it was starting your morning off right top. It
a new way of talk, a new way of understanding
because we're in the stage. This is your morning show
with Michael.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Bill Cha.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
I told you that was like the Bills and the Chiefs. Hey,
and you're the Bills. See that's why I say leave
me alone. I have to think nobody was talking to you.
You were talking to yourself. You were interrupting yourself.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Shame.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Saw sound effects down the line. I was harmonizing. That
usually gets my Monday started very well, and then you
blow it. I know, I'm sorry. I apologize Tonight. I'd
like to start the show by saying this is your
morning show, old boy. Where's the guy that goes Who
the heck's running the board around here? I got him
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standing right by there, speaking of Houston. We've got a problem. Yeah,
here's your buddy right here. What idiot is running the show?
Thank you? Yeah, that'd be Jeffrey Lyon? Thanks? Reds here right?
Are you actually wearing red today? You are there? You go.
This is going to be a good day. Yesterday certainly wasn't.
Can I start the show with some statistics? Okay? Total
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yards three hundred and seventy four to three hundred and
sixty eight. Wow, that's close. Imagine play a whole football
game and come within six yards of each other. And
by the way, the Chiefs would have had less yards
than the Bills if not for the you know, two
trash first downs at the end. Passing yards Bills two
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hundred and twenty seven Chiefs two hundred and thirty three,
rushing yards Bills one hundred and forty seven Chiefs one
hundred and thirty five yards per play five point five
for the Bills, five point eight for the Chiefs. If
you're trying to fight, you won't find it. Third down
efficiency it was a home field advantage, fourth down efficiency, well,
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Casey was one for one and the Brown the Bills
were four to six, although some of us had it
five of six total plays sixty eight to sixty three,
and the Bills advantage sacks allowed to each, punts to each,
penalties Bills six for forty eight yards, Chiefs five for
twenty one yard. I mean the time of possession thirty
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minutes thirty two seconds for the Bills, twenty nine twenty
eight for the Chiefs. And yet the same Bills that
went to the Super Bowl four times and lost have
now played Kansas City four times and lost and the playoffs.
Anybody else go to bed last night knowing their worst
night Mary has come true. That's right. Super Bowl fifty
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nine is set for the Superdome in New Orleans, a
rematch of the Eagles and the Chiefs. What next we
allow to say that? Do we have to call it
the Big Game? What is the I'm not doing a
promotion right now? What it is looking to make any
financial gain from a game that I probably won't even
watch now, thank you. I've just always wondered why some
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people have just say the Big Game, and why you
can't call it the Super Bowl? Who's going to sing
the national anthem? The cast of the view? What else
can they do to destroy this game? For me? I
mean serious? Do you remember the meme? What was that
like three months ago? What America wants Lions bills? Hey,
we just settled for Eagles bills. You didn't have to
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hope the Bills control. But Eagles Chiefs the biggest nightmare
and it's come true, and the Chiefs are becoming the Patriots.
It's not you don't You don't really dislike the Chiefs.
I'm sick of them. I'm sick of Kelsey's I'm sick
of Taylor Swift, sick of it all. I knew that
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was coming. Why does he Why does Brian say that
was such disdain? I thought he loved me, always sitting
there waiting play it again, Listen to the hatred.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
Pizza Boy, wine and beats the Boy.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Why is it too much to ask for the pitch?
Speaker 6 (04:48):
Out of respect for Tim Russert, out of respect for
all things good, for those whether the storms snow, oh.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah, chief sequels people, We'll call the Bills versus the
Chiefs the Colombian Fold. They you ever watch like they
edit like when you watch poker on television. That was
a big craze about a decade ago. Not so much anymore,
but I remember people just started watching poker on TV.
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Was constant. There's that guy in Tennessee, the one the
World series, Oh from Tennessee. Uh oh, gosh, no, I see,
I've drawn a blank. What it was the kid from
Tennessee from I don't remember that one, but I can
tell you that, you know you most poker is it's
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not for add all right, So if you were sitting
watching a real poker match, it's full fold fold, fold
fold Annie, any Anny, fold folfold any ann. And then
every now and then you get a big hand and
there's a big exchange. Well they added out all the
quick folds. But I mean, if you've watched, they've showed
you some like guy takes one look at his card,
that's gone just like the quick fold. Ever, that's what
we're gonna now call. I believe the Colombian fold. After
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the Colombian government agreed to President Trump's terms and exactly
zero point one tenth of a second, Chris Moneymaker, Oh,
Chris Moneymakers from Tennessee. I didn't know that. It was
like from Brentwood, Franklin areas and where around you you're kidding.
I remember his championship. He never Colombian folded. So the
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Colombians have folded. We have heg Seth confirmed, Christy Nome confirmed.
The committee meetings will start with hearings with Telsea Gabbard
and Cash Battel on Thursday. I believe our FK Junior
on Wednesday. So this week will be eventful and bring
us the next two. Although everybody I think agreed read
wouldn't you say that heg Seth or Tulsea Gabbard would
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be that the heg Seth would be the toughest and
Telsea Gabbard RFK and Hegseth would be the most challenged.
So we'll find out heg Seth is in And now
it's an RFK Junior and Cash Pattel well and Telsea
Gabbard's turn this week. But as we predicted here at
your morning show, and it was not a Nostrudel journal.
Although I'm shocked I haven't lost consciousness, especially after I
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heard that song twice before the introm Oh you're wound,
here's some salt, go ahead? Oh all right, you feel hey?
It feels like it's coming on late. Oh my gosh,
great thornen for jorn.
Speaker 7 (07:26):
Oh, here we go.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
It shall be on the twenty seventh.
Speaker 8 (07:31):
Day of the twenty five year, when the island strikes twice.
So shall get Chiefs and the Eagles.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Oh what what?
Speaker 9 (07:46):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (07:46):
I got?
Speaker 7 (07:47):
Hey?
Speaker 9 (07:47):
Hey Dan?
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Are you academy?
Speaker 10 (07:51):
No?
Speaker 1 (07:51):
I think I think that was Noster tel journal lighting.
It's trying to get around the beats a boy yelling
at him. I think he was just trying to get
a chief shout out of the Chiefs. Does that? I mean? See?
Am I the one doesn't even care to watch that game?
Chiefs and the Eagles. Again, I've seen it. Watch the
Super Bowl. I may not. That's not a big game
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for me. Well, well's it is the maybe the Oklahoma
City Thunder. We'll see on the air. It's the last
game of football we get for what six months? See
what is it XFL? Or what's the one that comes
out in the spring. It's not Football's I move on
to March Madness, and then it's the Masters, a tradition
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unlike any other Masters. And then you go ready to
baseball season. It'll all come around again. Can you believe
for almost a month into this year already. Yeah, exactly,
that's only been about six healthy days for me. All right, Well,
welcome to Monday, January the twenty seventh. You have out
the old twenty twenty five, the big stories, confirmations, the
big stories, the Colombian fold. The CIA has now joined
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the FBI in concluding the COVID was a lab leak.
Can I remind you all of a video you may
not have ever heard. This is literally weeks before COVID starts.
This is Fauci and other scientists in a conversation at
(09:17):
the Milken Institute, and they're griping about how long it
takes to and how many billions of dollars, and how
much time it takes to get new vaccine technologies approved
and through trials. And then listen closely as one gets
the big idea, well, not if we had an emergency. Listen,
(09:40):
Oh wait a minute, I just realized something. What I
had that down because of Noster del Charno.
Speaker 9 (09:47):
Here we go, getting out of the tried and true
egg growing, which we know gives those results.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
It can be you know, beneficial.
Speaker 9 (09:57):
I mean, we've done well with them, so something yet
has to be much better. You have to prove that
this works, and then you've got to go through all
of the clinical trials.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
So if you want to go from egg growing vaccines
to mRNA or a new technology, you've got to go
through a lot of trials and a lot of money,
and it takes a lot of time. Keep going FOUCH.
Speaker 9 (10:23):
Phase ones, phase two, phase three, and then show that
this particular product is going to be good over a
period of years. That alone, if it works perfectly, is
going to take a decade.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
There might be a need or even an urgent call
for an entity of excitement out there that's completely just run.
Speaker 11 (10:46):
An entity of excitement is another way of saying, you
know something that'll kill one point two million Americans, but
we'll be able to usher in a new vaccine technology.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Keep going, Rick Bright.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
That's not beholden to bureaucratic strings and processes.
Speaker 9 (11:03):
So we really do have a problem of how the
world perceives influenza, and it's going to be very difficult
to change that unless you do it from within and say,
I don't care what your perception is. We're going to
address the problem in a disruptive way and in an
iterative way.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Because you do need both.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
But it is not too crazy to think that the
outbreak of a novel avian virus could occur in China somewhere.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
We could that'll be Wuhan in less than three weeks.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Get the RNA sequence from that, beam it to a
number of regional centers, if not local, if not even
in your home at some point, and prints those vaccines
on a patch and self administer.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Now, the big question became when this video surfaced, is
this edited out of context? Were they just talking about
a situation that could be and how the new technology
would be able to meet that need in a way
at growing couldn't Or is this the interesting conversation they
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had weeks before it happened, weeks before it spread. I mean,
this could even be the reason why Fauci needed the pardon. Well,
the CIA has now concluded the deadly COVID nineteen pandemic
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most likely arose from a laboratory leak, lending credibility to
a view that has been the focus of sharp debate
among scientists and politicians for years. That really begs the
question of the day, doesn't it how the origins of COVID?
I mean, in real time there were very few that
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weren't gripped in fear and thus controllable. Some of us,
in real time weren't gripped in fear and saw through
all of this as it was happening. But why wouldn't
both sides of a political aisle be interested in something
that killed one point two million Americans? I'll tell you
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sides of the aisle interested in what killed one point
two million Americans? You probably went into the new year
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It's your morning show with Michael del Jorno.
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These are your top five stories of the day. I
like to affectionately call in the Colombian Fold. The White
House says the Colombian government has agreed to the President's
terms after threatening a tariff.
Speaker 12 (15:29):
Inter statement to the White House said that the country
had agreed to Trump's terms, including the unrestricted acceptance of
all illegal inlians from Columbia returned from the United States.
The statement also said the drafted actions on tariffs and
sanctions would be held in reserve and not signed unless
Columbia fails to honor this agreement. Trump is threatening retaliatory
measures after Columbia denied entry to a pair of US
(15:50):
military deportation plans.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Of lights involve two C seventeen.
Speaker 12 (15:53):
Aircraft, which we're carrying about eighty Columbian migrants each from California.
In response, Trump announced on truth Social son the sweeping measures,
including tariffs on Columbian imports, visa sanctions on government officials,
and increased customs inspections and financial penalties.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
I'm Mark Mayfield. Columbia caved so fast they didn't even
get the mainstream media chance today to talk about what
the economic impact would be of the threat of these.
Vice President jd Vance's lower prices are coming, but Americans
may have to wait a bit.
Speaker 10 (16:25):
Dance told CBSA Space the Nation that the Trump administration
has already implemented measures aimed at reversing inflation.
Speaker 13 (16:32):
Prices are going to come down, but it's going to
take a little bit of time. Right that the president
has been president for all of five days.
Speaker 10 (16:39):
Van Sincisi administration is working to increase the number of
American jobs and improve domestic energy production, both of which
he says will eventually cause the cost of living to decrease.
I'm Tammy for HEEO.
Speaker 14 (16:52):
Breton, President Tennessee, and my morning show is your Morning
Show with Michael del Jardo.
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as we always say, better late than never. Thanks for
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joining us for the podcast. If you're just waking up,
I think I've I've figured out what the first one
hundred days of the Trump administration is going to be like.
Scrambling to keep up with all the kept promises, Trump
to reinstate eight thousand plus troops discharged for refusing the vaccine.
I can tell you who's really excited about Trump being
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president and not Biden or Kamala Harris. The Colombians who
would have been pushed off a plane with a parachute
if their government didn't cave to Donald Trump. Could you
imagine the lookout all there. They're going to just push
us on the plane the plane they're but thanks to
the new expression, the Colombian fold, the government folded in
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minutes when Trump threatened tariffs. It matters who's president, and
Donald Trump is keeping promises by returning criminals to their
origins and standing up to their thug governments that sent them.
And the CIA has joined the FBI in believing that
the COVID virus was a lab leak. That was a
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speedy conclusion for the CIA. And you know, probably the
biggest difference between the movie Bodyguard with Kevin Costner and
Whitney Houston is in the movie they're protecting her from
someone trying to harm her. In real life the impossible
task to protect her from herself. So probably not the
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bodyguard portrayed by Kevin Costner, or was he. I've seen
Dave Roberts in a lot of documentaries. This guy really cared.
This guy was really good, and he was the real
bodyguard for the longest period of time. And what a
pleasure it is to talk to you this morning, Dave,
good morning. How are you. I'm doing great. I've seen
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you in documentaries. I've read the book. It was terrific.
Thank you. I guess for the listeners listening there, their
first question would always be, well, why did you feel
I need to write this book? And what were you
hoping they would come away with and what do you
think might surprise them a bit learned something they didn't
know about Whitney Houston. Well, to write the book for
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me was cathartic.
Speaker 7 (19:40):
It dissipated much of the of the anger that I
have been carrying for many many years. And given the
amount of time that has passed, a decades that had passed,
it just fit.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
It's was an appropriate thing to do.
Speaker 7 (19:56):
And in fact, when my agent saw it, he said,
this is the book that Whitney herself would want.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
I have seen so many different documentaries and you always
stick out because that passion is there, that frustration, that anger.
We saw with John Belushi, we saw with Michael Jackson,
we saw with a lot of these starts. You can
see it coming. It's a slow motion train of disaster,
and yet no one can stop it. That's right. That
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really bothered you, and yet it doesn't happen to everyone.
Speaker 7 (20:29):
And you've got to think, why is it the individual
or is it the outfits the entity that is looking
after them? And in the main, I would say the
success of people like abustreisand share many.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Many others, and there have been many.
Speaker 7 (20:44):
Others is because of who was guiding them, not who
was abandoning them on the basis of I need to
get my mortgage paid it.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Keep singing, keep singing. We're talking to David Roberts. The
book is called Protecting Whitney. He was her bodyguard in
nineteen nineteen eighty eight. And you often do this jokingly.
How much of the movie was you? Virtually in a
lot of ways, everything but the personal relationship? Yeah, okay.
Speaker 7 (21:14):
The movie was originally written twenty two years before Just
made I believe. Yeah, Steve McQueen and Diana Ross, they
were the stars. Mister Cosner bought that twenty years later
and revised it to represent himself and Whitney in the role.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
When I saw the film. I wasn't involved in it
at all.
Speaker 7 (21:36):
When I saw the film, I was impressed that many
of the things that they did, she and I had done.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Somebody studied you, David, because I mean, think of the
Costner character. He obviously had a military background at all.
It wasn't used to protecting stars. But the dignitary. There's
a lot of you in that. Oh maybe so.
Speaker 7 (21:57):
But the thing that first struck me watching film is
when he knew what he had to do, he went
out and bought her records and watched her on the television.
I'd never seen her on the television. In fact, I
asked my daughter when the embassy asked me to look
after who is this Whitney Houston?
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Just the biggest name. I'm going to dance with somebody.
I don't care who you want to dance it. You
could dance after us. Tell me who she is. That's
her number one record. I had no idea, absolutely no idea.
Oh and David, seven number one songs off that album
knocked the Beatles off the chart still holds the record
for female artists. I think what you were most angered at,
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most frustrated by, and some people have this where you
can't putt that was in the movie that much. You
can't protect someone from themselves. But the more I study
Whitney Houston, I think it started in childhood through molestation.
But you were seeing the family around her, the people
that are supposed to love her the most, and they
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were is much a part of what you needed to
protect her from as anything outside.
Speaker 7 (23:05):
I'm bear in mind. The love was genuine. Oh it
was dysfunctional the most, and she loved them back. Whitney
Houston was a giver, not a taker. She would give
everybody anything. I never saw anybody give her anything if
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she'd won the awards, but nobody gave.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Her anything from their hearts.
Speaker 7 (23:31):
I suspect Bobby Brown did in their time together, but otherwise.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
No, they just took. You know, it's funny. Everybody thinks
they know this story, and there'll be a lot of
people that'll buy your book and read it looking for
a new morsel. And they all have their villain. Bobby
is probably the biggest villain. Her father's betrayal. That's the
one that breaks. I'm a father of daughters, and I
mean that guy is low on my list. You're watching
all this, how do you how do you try to
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reach her and help her? And was she responsive to
any of the warnings at the time.
Speaker 7 (24:05):
Now this only came to a head, shall we say,
in the last nine months. That's how long it took
to identify it, to seek assistance and to be denied,
and then to be told thank you. Miss Houston is
making no more international tools. She does not need anyone
to go caliber. But if she decides to tool in
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the future, we'll phone you And I guess the folks
still hasn't grown. Thirty five years later.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
The name of the book is called Protecting Whitney the
Real Bodyguard Dave Roberts. In our part two of the visit,
we'll talk more about those family members and their greed
and the influence and who was ultimately responsible for her death.
If you're just waking up Top five stories of the day, Well,
the cost of living relief is coming. It's just going
(24:54):
to take a little while. Mark Mayfield has Today in Politics.
Speaker 12 (24:57):
Vice President JD. Vans says lower prices are coming, but
Americans may have to wait a bit. Vance told CBS
faced the Nation that the Trump administration has already implemented
measures aimed at reversing inflation.
Speaker 13 (25:08):
Prices are going to come down, but it's going to
take a little bit of time. Right that the president
has been president for all of five.
Speaker 12 (25:14):
Days, Van's and sins the administration is working to increase
the number of American jobs and improve domestic energy production,
both of which he says will eventually cause the cost
of living to decrease. And the White House says the
Colombian government has agreed to President Trump's terms after he
threatened tariffs. In a statement, the White House said that
the country agreed to Trump's terms, including the unrestricted acceptance
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of all illegal aliens from Columbia returned from the United States.
The statement also said the drafted actions on tariffs and
sanctions would be held in reserve and not signed unless
Columbia fails to honor this agreement. Trump threatened retaliatory measures
after Columbia denied entry to a pair of US military
deportation flights involving two C seventeen aircraft each carrying about
eighty Columbian migrants from California.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
That's politics on Mark Mayfield, the President Trump's borders are
is promising that immigration raids against suspected illegal immigrants will
be expanded.
Speaker 10 (26:02):
Tom Holman told ABC's This Week that ICE rates will
soon go beyond to legal immigrants convicted of crimes.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
If you in a country legally, you're on the table
because it's not okay to you know, loss this country.
You got to remember every time you enter this country legally,
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Speaker 10 (26:21):
Crime home and insisted the agency needs more funding from
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that immigration authorities will not hesitate to grade schools, churches,
and hospitals, locations and agents weren't allowed to enter under
the Biden administration. I'm Tammy trheo.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
President Trump is defending the late night purge of seventeen
inspector generals. Scott Carr has more from Washington.
Speaker 15 (26:42):
The federal inspectors General are independent government figures charged with
rooting out fraud, waste, and violations within their own agencies.
White House officials confirm over a dozen of them were
fired Friday night because they don't align with the new
Trump administration, calling the move a very common thing to do.
Trump defended their removal while speaking with reporters Saturday. Some
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officials claim the firings violate federal law, which requires the
President to give both Houses of Congress cause for dismissal
and thirty days advanced notice.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
I'm Scott Carr in Washington. A DEA raid in Colorado
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Lisa Cardin has all the details.
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The DEA says its local division operated a raid on
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I'm Lisa Carton. Well Gibson's latest movie, Flight Risk, is
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Speaker 3 (29:45):
This is your Morning Show with Michael del Chuno.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
I had a little theory. I've studied this tragedy for
a long time, and the theory is that I think
Whitney Houston was happiest singing in church, and I think
she would have been happy spending her in entire life
singing to God in church. It was her mother's ambition
that drove her to fame, and the fame she couldn't handle.
What do you make of that theory? Day just a
minute now.
Speaker 7 (30:09):
When she started to sing gospel, she went into a
world that very few footleage.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Yeah, nobody ever has sense either.
Speaker 7 (30:18):
Oh when you saw that vein on the left side
of her throat and you heard the sound, you knew
when she came off stage she would be hoarse, And
she was hoarse every time she came off stage. Yet
twelve hours later, sixteen hour later, she spack on stage
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to exactly the same Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Like Elvis right, both started with a love for singing
for God. Both believe their gift came from God. Both
eventually lost their gift in their life. Her belief in
her Lord was her salvation. That is where she escaped.
In fact, I think it's CC Winings. CC Winers was
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a mental and we would escape from the crowd, get
on a plane, go to Tennessee. I stay in the
hotel and she stayed with CC. That was how she
got revitalized. I'd spent some time with CEC who told
some of me talk about generosity, some stories of genera.
We are you just gonna understand you it could come
here and live. I'll buy your you know. She was
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just that way and there was that concern, all right.
So bottom line is what's the lesson of Whitney Houston.
It will be repeated.
Speaker 7 (31:34):
Yeah, it will be repeated, unfortunately, and it's up to people,
not the individuals themselves, to protect those people from themselves.
Such a task, such a hard task, but it won't
be the last.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
When you were living it, and you know the name
of the book Protecting Whitney, you made it clear. And
then she made her choice and it played out the
way it played out. Did it feel like a failure
for you, Sella. I believe we all failed, we all
failed her and adult. Yeah, that's the other part of
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the tragedy, isn't it. Yes, it is, Yes, Yeah. I
was watching a recent documentary and it went into some
of the molestation confessions of with Hes and that may
be why she brought her daughter everywhere and didn't leave
her with anyone, but it caused her to be around
a very dysfunctional in the home and on the road.
Speaker 7 (32:31):
When I left in ninety five, I did not, for
my own good to sue or watch any of her
progress or regression thereafter, beyond that which was thrust on
the television when she appeared maciated Michael Jackson concert and
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the interviews that made it onto the news of this
whack is crack and that sort of. And when she
greeted her husband from prison and that.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Was on the news, I you know, so sad in
her in her day? Was there anybody more beautiful? Was
there anyone with a greater gift? Was there anyone with
a sweeter spirit?
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (33:13):
And just can you neither? Will it be? Let me
ask you this one last question. Difference between Nippy and
Whitney and who did you know best? Between who Nippy
and Whitney. There's a lot of differen yeah, miss Houston. Yes,
Like she used to talk about how there's Whitney and
then there's Nippy. Nippy's the real her. Whitney is the
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kind of public her. Which one did you spend the
most time with him? Could you notice a difference? Yes,
there was a difference.
Speaker 7 (33:41):
I'm both equally because when she wasn't under pressure to
do something, she was desperate for normalcy.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
And that's when the nippy part of it came in.
Speaker 7 (33:51):
That's when she just wanted to go and get a
beef burger, get a hamburger, just go to McDonald's and
go home eat it, that sort of thing. She was
as normal as anybody trying to be as normal as
anybody else. You you'd care to think. But the price
of fame is.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Ah, you just said, you just said it, the price
of fame. You know, I was mentioning earlier, how in
the documentaries that you're in you stick out. Everybody else
still after all these years, has their grudges or or
has their agenda, and you just stick out as somebody
that watched a tragedy, failed to stop it and are heartbroken.
That's why I was always drawn to you. Let me
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ask you this, do you think any of us are
meant to be worshiped in fame? I don't think it's
a human thing that anybody can ever get used to.
What was the role of fame in her death? The course,
it was no pressure induced by the fame. That is
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impossible for a.
Speaker 7 (34:53):
Young woman, young mother, young wife to have to put
up with own success.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
And they were dependent on her success to feed themselves
and their future. Boy, if you were fascinated by Whitney
Houston's gift, life and tragedy, you want to get the
book Protecting Whitney by Dave Robertson.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
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