January 29, 2025 • 36 mins
Is America’s opinion souring on Elon Musk? National Correspondent RORY O’NEILL shares the results of a new poll. And, from control of the Panama Canal to the confirmation hearings of RFK Junior, Congress is working hard on President Trump’s agenda for his second term. How Trump’s plans are faring on Capitol Hill.
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Speaker 2 (00:38):
One of the silent big problems in our culture today
is we don't have shared experiences because media is all fragmented.
For example, Jerry Seinfeld was talking about this, there was
a time where ninety eight percent of televisions were tuned
in to Uncle Milty, Milton Berle. You don't have anybody
think it's ninety seven percent of viewership anymore. Or how
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we had appointment television with all in the family or
mash and then we had shared experiences that we could
all talk about well, now we're so fragmented that we
don't have shared experiences. I'll give you an example. When
we do this morning show. I don't like to sit
in what's called network silence. Just doesn't feel like I'm
on the radio. So we monitor one of our stations
just so I hear commercials and I feel, you know,
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like I'm still on the air. And the one that
we're monitoring has Fox News and they just story in
the Chinese zodiac, which I don't believe in. Okay, but
I looked up my year and I am the wood dragon,
red as a wood snake. I almost guess that wood dragon.
The wood dragon is given the most creative and artistic
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personality of the dragon signs.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
I'm already starting to dig it.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
It talks later about the wood Dragon's inner strength is
never in question, but they're not burdened with inflexible self
confident of other members of their sign.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
What dragons are known to.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Think their conclusions through which they then embraced with innovation
and innate creativity.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Those are flattering. That's nice.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
That got me to thinking, I wonder what Rory is,
but I don't know the year that Rory is born.
Roy do you know what your Chinese zodiac is? Yes,
what are you? I can only imagine a rooster.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
And in fact, I was in Vietnam, in Hanoi for
Chinese New Year fun story, ended up beating in a
tex Mex restaurant and wow, what.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
In Vietnam do as the Vietnamese do?
Speaker 4 (02:39):
It had opened like the day before, and none of
the weight staff knew what the menu was and couldn't
understand it. So I ended up putting on a clinic
to explain a text Mex menu to a bunch of
Vietnamese waiters and waitresses?
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Are you cocky like a rooster? You kind of are
a rooster, aren't you? I mean, said alarms. I got
stories early in the morning. You're up early in the morning,
you do? You were very confident. Yeah, I don't believe
in any of this, but wow, reds a sneak and
you're a rooster? And here we are, all right? Is
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America souring its opinion on Elon Musk? And I got
to tell you on this one. You know, these kinds
of things. You have to look at how the questions
are asked. You bring up something negative like billionaire as
opposed to someone it's brilliant that can put a rocket
into space return it to it, you know. But the
question becomes is America souring on Elon Musk? Well, based
down the way this question was asked in its result,
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possibly right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
And this is out of a series of one, two, three, four, five,
six different polls that find his approval numbers all going
in the wrong direction as of late. And that's before
what happened with that gesture, yeah stuff, So yeah, I
think people during the transition just didn't like the idea
of the world's richest man and the president becoming so buddy, buddy.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
I think we like to have that wall of separation there.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
I wonder if America would feel the same way about
Bezos or Zuckerberg or any of the others that have
surrounded themselves but as president as well.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Well, right, I think you just don't like to see
money and power, I don't know, overlap so much.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Oh, because it's never happened before.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Right, Is this where you turn into the rooster and
bring this bring this rocket back to it's a holster?
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Well yeah, and then.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Of course is recently Elon Musk recently get involved in
German politics, has gotten a little bit questionable.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
So yeah, it's just a it's a series of things.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
And then even the Tesla shareholders wire like, hey hey, hey, hey,
hey over here, pay attention to us, please, you have
a you have an obligation to do to get more
money and make more profit for Tesla for your shareholders.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah, well, I think he's probably capable of doing more
than one thing at a time. But you know I
I do this all the time with Joe Rogan. You know,
I don't think Joe Rogan should allow himself to get
sucked into politics. He'll go from twenty million down to
one million, like the rest that are in the political realm.
So people ought to be careful what they get sucked
into that might be legit. So as America souring, well,
they're open to this notion. We don't like billionaires too
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close to president's that much probably is true.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Right, That's what it seems to be.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
And just you know, who has influence with I don't
want to say over the president, or who can influence
the president.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
You know, that's something we may not like to have
on display.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
We saw Caroline Levitt just kind of running through a
laundry list of and it's hard to keep up with
everything Donald Trump has done in his first week of office,
but there's more work to do. From the Panama Canal
to confirmation hearings RFK the betrayal of his cousin Caroline.
Rory's going to be back with that story next half hour.
Thanks Rory. All right, if you're just waking up, these
are your sounds.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Of the day and you have this sound kind of
desire to stop it, get some help ever, letting they
take your power?
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Oh god, no, no, it is by the motto keep
come come along. I bet he's I bet his Chinese
zodiac with turkey whatever it was he forgot. All right,
Here is how Kringe. Jean Pierre began her reign as
Press secretary just four years ago.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
I am obviously actually she would have been more like
three years ago. But I digress acutely.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
Aware that my presence at this podium represents a few First.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
I am a black, gay immigrant woman.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Okay, great qualifications. There's a new thirty sixth White House
Press Secretary, Caroline Levitt, twenty seven years old. She handles
things a little differently.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
Five hundred arrests ices made so far since President.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Trump came back into office. Can you just tell us
the numbers how many.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
Have a criminal record versus those who are just in
the country illegally, all of them because they illegally broke
our nation's laws and they're where they are criminals as
far as this administration goes. I know the last administration
didn't see it that way. So it's a big culture
shift in our nation to view someone who breaks our
immigration laws as a criminal.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
But that's exactly what they are here.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
And she doesn't need notes eitherre on Doge, oh, a
laundry list of embarrassing expenditures that were found.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
Listen, yes, during this pause at Doge and Omb have
actually found that there was thirty seven million dollars that
was about to go out the door to the World
Health Organization, which is an organization as you all know
that President Trump, with the swipe of his pen in
that executive order, is no longer once the United States
to be a part of, so that wouldn't be in
line with the president's agenda.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
DOJ and Omb also found that there.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
Was about to be fifty million taxpayer dollars that went
out the door to fund condoms in Gaza. That is
a preposterous waste of taxpayer money. So that's what this
pause is focused on, being good stewards of tax dollars.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
By the way, it gets even worse because the terrorists
were using balloons and condoms to deliver well, you know, explosives,
malotov cocktails on into schools. Literally, Joe Biden was spending
fifty million dollars to send a delivery system to the terrorists.
(08:20):
I wish he had elaborated on that. We talked about
the changing and how we said it would be so
wise for Donald Trump to open up the White House
press room to non traditional or what are now the
most watched and listened to sources. He's watching ABCNBCCBSMSNBCCNN, it
really Fox for that matter, and listening to Joe Rogan.
(08:44):
Sixty million people listened to Donald Trump with Joe Rogan
that Kamala refused to talk to or Megan Kelly or
Tucker Carlson or other influencers in the digital realm. Well,
the White House announced yesterday through Caroline Levitt they are
going to open that room up to digital new voices.
(09:08):
There's even a seat in the front row. I don't
know if there's gonna be wise for him to do.
But I wonder if you'll see Joe Rogan there, or
Megan Kelly or Tucker Carlson or other digital content providers
the people really are watching and listening to. As for
Joe Rogan, he was discussing the performance of JD Vance.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
In a CBS interview. Here's how it sounded. Oh my god,
it's a masterclass. He just he is. He's so good.
He is really good. Has he been here? Yes, yeah,
he's great. That Thank god for that guy.
Speaker 6 (09:43):
He's so good at dismantling those dope people and just
breaking down like she was like, this is the country
built on immigrants. He's like, yes, that doesn't mean the
two hundred and forty years later, we have to have
the dumbest immigration policy possible.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Well did you see this? I mean.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
We all can dissect and forensically explain the role of
people like Joe Rogan or or alliances lost. Keep in mind,
Tulca Gabbard, RFK Junior are all up for confirmation this week.
They were once Democrat presidential candidates. They're now going to
be the Trump administration and cabinet. Joe Rogan was once
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a worshiper of a Barack Obama and a leftist. Now,
look how he's talking about JD. Vance and Donald Trump.
If we're right, and we are that legacy media is
the past and digital is now the reality. Guess what,
(10:45):
Donald Trump or this Trump Vance revolution now belongs to
the next generation. Another example of how the left is
playing checkers and the right isn't just playing chess. They've
already got them in checkmate. And when you do appear
on one of these, I mean, what is CNN's audience
(11:13):
when Jake Trappers on Tappers on what is it? A
couple hundred twenty five to fifty four best? So PLoP
in Donald Trump's assistant chief of staff. Just bury him.
(11:34):
Don't play their narrative game. Here's how it sounds.
Speaker 7 (11:37):
Who a question about was one of the reasons that
President Trump got elected, According to President Trump in an interview,
I think it was with Kristen Welker of NBC was
because of grocery prices. Not the only reason, but a
reason high prices in place.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Don't you love how they're all just listening and watching
each other. They don't know they're dead, they don't know
they're irrelevant. They think they are because they're watching each other.
They're caring about what each other think. They care what
they think, but America does and they've moved on. So
watch this reference and watch how we handle.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Each and especially at the grocery.
Speaker 7 (12:06):
The Department of Agriculture says that between twenty twenty and
twenty twenty two, forty two percent of crop workers were
undocumented immigrants. And in many cases, as you know, these
migrants do jobs many Americans do not want to do.
So how do you how does President Trump make sure
that the effort to deport people who are not in
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this country legally doesn't end up hurting Americans who want
safe borders absolutely, but also don't want to see even
more higher prices in grocery.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
All right, So well, narrative. Sure, it's not your position, Jake,
It's a narrative, not a reality. Watch what Steven Miller
does with this.
Speaker 8 (12:44):
You're just ask them the question that we should supply
America's food with exploitative illegal alien labor. I obviously don't
think that's what you're implying. Only one percent of alien
workers in the entire country work in agriculture. The top
destination for illegal aliens are large cities like New York
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like Los Angeles and small industrial talents. Of course, all
across the heartland. We as we've seen with the Biden floods,
None of those illegal aliens are doing farm work. Those
thirty thousand legal aliens that Joe Biden dumped into springs.
Speaker 7 (13:20):
I'm talking about the ones that no, no, no, but but
no no.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
But I'm explaining this. It's important to understand now you're
kind of changing with those.
Speaker 8 (13:26):
I mean no, no, I will, I will go. I
will give me thirty minutes. All goes deep to one
of this.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
I don't, audience, I don't.
Speaker 7 (13:32):
I'm talking about the ones that could that work in
the agriculture industry. What I mean, I mean explaining the
ones in the cities.
Speaker 8 (13:39):
I swear I'll do the I'll do the whole answer.
The illegal aliens that Joe Biden brought into our country
are not full stop doing farm work. They are not
the illegal aliens he brought in from Venezuela, from Haiti,
from Nicarauaugua. They are not doing farm work. They are
in our cities collecting welfare. As for the farmers, there
is a guest worker program that President Trump's support over
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time as well. You will transition into automation, so we'll
never have to have this conversation of icye.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Dead people and they don't know they're dead.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Well, that's every day whenever you see Tom Holman come
across a biased, liberal, narrativized reporter just like this one.
Speaker 9 (14:21):
The men and win are ICE are professionals. We do
this for a living. And I can tell you I
ran ICE for years. I was the first director of
ICE count through the ranks. Again, these men and women professional,
high stent standards in the industry. We take care of
these people. But we're going to force law and we're
not going to pologize for doing it.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
And you're going to do it in a public way
with do you need to use the big military planes?
Is that part of a because of shopping or tactic?
They haven't been used before, have they for migrants? No,
we got President Trump.
Speaker 9 (14:46):
We're going to use all the government to secure our border,
which is the biggest national security vulnerability this country's ever seen.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
But we're going to force loss this country. It's not
okay to enter this country of league. It's a crime.
Speaker 9 (14:55):
And when you caused the crisis, big as a Bide administration,
cause when you overwhelm the board, Joe, but they can't
do the national security job. That's when the phatanylm come
across kill at quarter may Americans. That's when you have
a six hundred percent increase in sex trafficking. Guess you
have a record number of no inspectators coming across an
open border. President Trumps my security borders, promise to American people,
We're going to force some revision loss.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
That's what we're going to do.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
I wonder how long it's going to take them the
figure out there, gotcha questions, got them, not the person
they're asking.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
And you have the spire stop it.
Speaker 10 (15:26):
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Speaker 3 (15:30):
No, No, it is the motto keep come, come along.
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Speaker 3 (17:05):
It's your morning show with Michael del Jorno.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
We had a listener earlier mentioned the performance of Caroline
Levitt was like a major league baseball player hitting a
home run in their first at bat, And then we
got looking at baseball players that have done that. We
left one off the list. Aaron Judge of the New
York Yankees, who got a home runners first at bat
ever in the Majors and his second at bat ever
in the majerse. He went back to back in his
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first day, All Rise for the Great One. I'm going
to compare some of Joe Rogan's numbers to CNN and
even Fox News to make a profound point when your
morning show continues next.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
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Every good morning drink to get to the bottom. Well,
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miss it anything. I was having a conversation with a friend,
and I think they were surprised, you know that, because
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I wasn't trying to impress them. I was trying to
impress upon them. And what it did is it broke
the perception, like believe it or not. If you're in
downtown Manhattan you walk by the Fox building, they still
have all their personalities pictures like billboard size all along
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the side of the building.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
They're promos.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
The way they talk about themselves, the way they talk
to each other, like they're bigger than life and everybody's watching.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
But they're not.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
I'll give you an example. You might be impressed if
somebody told you, Hey, I'm the new eight pm host
on CNN. Wow, you're on CNN, like Larry King is
still there, like everybody's still watching. Do you know what
CNN's viewership is adults twenty five to fifty four. They're worldwide,
(21:18):
and their audience is one hundred and eighteen thy twenty
five to fifty four at eight pm. Now Fox is
three hundred and forty thousand, and that's a big win
over CNN.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
But that's really not a big win.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
And we're not talk about when Uncle Milty had ninety
seven percent of the television's watching him on the Milton
Burl Show or mash or All in the Family. And
when I was talking to this person, I said, you
realize I had right at one hundred and thousand, one
hundred thousand people twenty five to fifty four listening to
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me in Tulsa, Oklahoma in nineteen ninety five, market size
sixty four. I mean, your perception versus reality. Well, it's
a big mistake the Democrats made.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Right.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
They're wanting to be on sixty minutes. They're wanting to
be on CNN. Nightly MSNBC. Donald Trump was on Joe Rogan,
so let's compare him Donald Trump's visit with Joe Rogan.
I said sixty million. It was technically fifty five million,
but that's YouTube below. That doesn't count Spotify, so it's
well over sixty million. Let's just do the YouTube number.
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This is the lowest you could possibly look at. It
probably reach closer to eighty million, But fifty five million
watched Joe Rogan and Donald Trump visit on YouTube. Nineteen
million watched jd Evans, nineteen million, watched Elon Musk nine
point two, Mel Gibson eight point five Zuckerberg. Now compare
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that to CNN's twenty five to fifty four audience of
one hundred and eighteen thousand. You could be on eight
pm Prime Time CNN every night. Technically this isn't true,
but you'd have to be on every night for two
years to match that fifty five million number.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
But that would even be unique people.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
You'd be reaching pretty much the same one hundred and
eighteen thousand, three hundred and sixty five times and unique viewerships. Now,
there's two kinds of America right now. There's the America
that gets that probably under forty years old. I remember
(23:45):
as a leader and as a manager. This isn't even
done in radio anymore. People don't even have marketing models,
let alone target audience, let alone target their product to
that audience. But we had a audience was sixty forty
mail twenty five fifty four. We had a bullseye. We
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even gave it a name. He was a husband. He
was forty two years old, his wife was forty. They
had three children. That's who we're talking to, and it
should shape the story selection, how you talk about it,
how you storytell So how ironic is it that we're
(24:27):
talking about Eh, if you're forty or under, you know,
Joe Rogan's a big deal. Being featured on ABC Nightly News.
That's not a big deal. Being on the Today Show
of the View, That's not a big deal. Being on
CNN or MSNBC or even Fox for that matter. It's
really not a big deal. These are world wide product
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providers with nineteen ninety five Tulsa, Oklahoma ratings.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Think about that.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
That's the difference between perception and reality and playing chess.
Trump got it, commonly didn't. What does this have to
end to do with anything. Well, this is why, Caroline Levitt,
(25:18):
twenty seven year old White House Press secretary, made the
announcement things are changing, announcing that Trump White House will
open up the briefing room to independent journalists, podcasters, social
(25:39):
media influencers, and content creators. Why because that's a reality.
The old model of having.
Speaker 10 (25:50):
The reporter from CNN, Fox, MSNBC, ABC, NBCCBS, Washington Post
and PRPBS, some news of paper from England, some television
station from Ireland. Those days are over. They have no influence,
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they have no audience. It's not where people are anymore.
Now listen, if you wanted to today in twenty twenty five,
you know, play the game. I'll start mailing letters every day.
Most people are texting and emailing. There's two ways to
(26:32):
look at this story. Well, this is brilliant.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
This is why.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
And we're going to visit with him next hour, our
White House correspondent, John Decker. He doesn't recognize half the
people in that room anymore. And it's not really Donald
Trump being brilliant. It's Donald Trump being reasonable, rational, common sensical,
(26:58):
Donald Trump living in reality. Now, the other side of
that coin is I don't know that Joe Rogan should
go there. Joe Rogan didn't get twenty million people watching
in any given week because he was playing the police,
sucked into playing the political partisan game. He should just
talk about whatever is interesting with people who are interesting.
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That's what built his audience. It's gonna be very interesting
to see how Joe Rogan responds to being such a
political lightning rod. I'd stay out of their weather system
if I was him, because once you're in, it's hard
to get out. But there's no question they belong in
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that room. They even identified a seat in the front
row that'll be just four people like Joe Rogan, Charlemagne
de god The vonn Megan, Kelly Tucker Carlson. There might
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even be bloggers in the room. Why because that's where
the audience is. It may sound crazy to say this
out loud to you, but an influencer on TikTok has
more business being in that room than an anchor for
ABC News. I mean, yeah, it's a great story. Yeah,
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we said he should do it, and he's doing it.
It's fun to see a White House that's this smart,
not just to get elected, but to stay connected to
the people that elected them. That's great and that is
an angle that somebody on radio today could go on
and on for an hour, and I would certainly applaud it.
(28:57):
But the reverse of it is if in your mind
you don't see Joe Rogan, gosh, somebody do the quick
math on this. I might need Suth Frederico from me
Cold Classic to do the numbers for me. You're comparing
sixty million people on YouTube alone to one hundred and
(29:20):
eighteen thousand nightly on CNN. I don't even know what
that is. But if it doesn't strike you, is ten
what would it be be over sixty?
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Right?
Speaker 2 (29:32):
It would almost be sixty times that. It would be
almost like one hundred and sixty times greater? Is one
hundred eighteen thousand times one hundred and sixty close to
sixty million? If so, why did I fail geometry?
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Yeah? That's shapes I did.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
I went to summer school for geometry. Isn't that embarrassing?
Of all things? Really said? That's like failing Jim Well, yeah,
a little more. All I remember is Isaceles triangle.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
That's all I remember. By the way, I've never had
to use geometry. I don't think in real life. What
was it?
Speaker 2 (30:05):
By the way, one hundred and sixty times one hundred
eighteen thousand. Now I'm just testing my own math abilities.
But you're not very quick, right, are you even listening
to this show? What are you listening to?
Speaker 3 (30:18):
I'll do it.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
I gotta do everything myself around here on hundred eighteen
thousand times one hundred and sixty. No, it's not even that.
That's only eighteen million.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Back.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Would it be well closer to four times that, so
it would be one hundred and eighteen thousand.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Times five hundred. Yeah, So get rid of it. Okay.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
So if you're not thinking that Joe Rogan's audience is
five hundred times bigger than CNN, If in your mind
CNN still seems big, even a big enemy that must
be defeated, you.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Don't get it. They're nothing, They're nobody.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
When you think of CNN, you need to think of
me on KRMG in Tulso Calaholm in nineteen ninety four.
That's how small it is. The Fox ain't much bigger.
America has changed. We're not sitting around in prime time
listening to an old fashioned radio or quite frankly, watching television,
(31:25):
or even having any shared experience. And there are a
handful of big ones out there. They're just not on
any of these networks. So why are they in this room?
And shouldn't they be in this room? Well, the announcement
from Caroline Levitt maybe the most significant story of the
day is they're about to be in this room very soon.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Some of them are already there. This is your Morning
Show with Michael del Chrono.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Trump says he's asked Elon Musk, CEO of SpaceX, to
go up there and finally.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Get Butch and Sonny. What a brilliant PR move that is.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Meanwhile, from control of the Panama Canal to the confirmation
hearings of RFK Junior, I guess to the attacks of
Caroline Kennedy on her own cousin, Congress is working hard
on President Trump's agenda for a second term. National correspondent
Roy O'Neil is here to take a look at Trump's
plans and how they're faring on Capitol Hill.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Good morning, Rory.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
Yeah, I had laughed when you called that a PR move.
I'd use two other letters, but go right ahead. Well
they were up there. What were they supposed to be there?
Just a few days?
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Right? Got eight to twelve days?
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Eight to twelve days and it's turned into how many months?
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Whatever was June to now?
Speaker 4 (32:48):
But I just laughed because I've told Elon Musk to
go up and rescue them. Well, the mission is already
scheduled to go up and get them in March. It's
been on the books for months when we figured out
this plan, and how many times that they had plans
to go up and get them though, it's it's it's
because the SpaceX capsule is late for delivery. So it's
(33:09):
Elon Musk's delay because they were going to go up
in late February. Then SpaceX said, sorry, we're not going
to be ready in time.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
We goodn't. We're going to have to wait until March.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
So I mean, and that's the whole point of the
program is to have two competing companies so that if
one had a problem, the other would be there. But yeah,
so this they were supposed to be coming home on
Starliner when they decided that, no, that's too risky. We're
going to bring you home on a SpaceX capsule when
it's ready in the spring. Initially was going to be February,
but again SpaceX said, no, we're running late.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
It's going to be March.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
So then you see these truth social and ex posts saying, yes,
we're coming to the rescue.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Well here's the but here's and here's the other six
months and here's the other bottom line. Even if that
were true, all right, go up and get them. How
long would that take the plan? And would you beat march?
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Right? That's what you're saying, right, No, No, it's all
just it's all just not yeah, all right, you know
what you call it. It's not br right.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
I say the sun comes up tomorrow, that's my deck.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
The son's coming up. Well, yeah, it was already going
to come up tom You didn't need mean to say that.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
I mean, all right, back to our original question, how
is Congress handling the Trump agenda?
Speaker 4 (34:15):
Well, I think we saw a lot of confusion on
Capitol Hill yesterday with that whole announcement about the budgets
being frozen and the spending stopping.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
But what exactly did that apply to?
Speaker 4 (34:24):
So I think a lot of that uncertainty caused a
lot of the chaos we were getting. Now, of course,
the hearings that are starting today with RFK Junior, let's
see just how tough the questioning is. After Caroline Kennedy's
video release of the letter that she sent to the
committees should be interesting to see some of the questions.
But look, Bobby Kennedy Junior is very good at this,
(34:45):
and I'll it'd be interesting to see if the Senators
are really prepared to go toe to toe with them, because.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
And I would think his opinions. Yeah, well, and he's smart,
He's very smart. And yep, this guy has fought very
big cases. He can handle the questioning from these people.
But he's going to be making the overall case of
making America healthy again. Can anybody make the case that
we are healthy? I think if you can steer it
to if you can steer it to that.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
And he went away from what was in the blender
to feed the hawks, he wins.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
What do you did you think it was appropriate?
Speaker 2 (35:19):
I mean, what qualifications does Caroline Kennedy have to make these?
Speaker 3 (35:23):
I mean the personalel tacks, yes, but not the.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
We agree though that she knows him better than Donald
Trump knows him.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Maybe not.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
No, I don't know that I agree with that. Who
knows how long it's been since she sung out with him.
I just thought it was completely inappropriate. The age of
when you have nothing good to say. But but even
that aside at the end when she makes it personal
and calls her own cousin a predator, and I don't
think anybody, I mean, maybe maybe some of these senators
will take cues from that, but I think he's more
(35:54):
than up to answer any of those allegations from her
or from them.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
But we'll find out. Today's the big day, right, uh, yeah,
the first of two. He's back tomorrow to a different
committee as well. All Right, Roy and Neil, great reporting.
We'll talk again tomorrow, follow up on that.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
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Speaker 3 (00:31):
Because we're in the studio. This is your morning show
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Speaker 2 (00:38):
One of the silent big problems in our culture today
is we don't have shared experiences because media is all fragmented.
For example, Jerry Seinfeld was talking about this, there was
a time where ninety eight percent of televisions were tuned
in to Uncle Milty, Milton Berle. You don't have anybody
think it's ninety seven percent of viewership anymore. Or how
(01:00):
we had appointment television with all in the family or
mash and then we had shared experiences that we could
all talk about well, now we're so fragmented that we
don't have shared experiences. I'll give you an example. When
we do this morning show. I don't like to sit
in what's called network silence. Just doesn't feel like I'm
on the radio. So we monitor one of our stations
just so I hear commercials and I feel, you know,
(01:22):
like I'm still on the air. And the one that
we're monitoring has Fox News and they just story in
the Chinese zodiac, which I don't believe in. Okay, but
I looked up my year and I am the wood dragon,
red as a wood snake. I almost guess that wood dragon.
The wood dragon is given the most creative and artistic
(01:46):
personality of the dragon signs.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
I'm already starting to dig it.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
It talks later about the wood Dragon's inner strength is
never in question, but they're not burdened with inflexible self
confident of other members of their sign.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
What dragons are known to.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Think their conclusions through which they then embraced with innovation
and innate creativity.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Those are flattering. That's nice.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
That got me to thinking, I wonder what Rory is,
but I don't know the year that Rory is born.
Roy do you know what your Chinese zodiac is? Yes,
what are you? I can only imagine a rooster.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
And in fact, I was in Vietnam, in Hanoi for
Chinese New Year fun story, ended up beating in a
tex Mex restaurant and wow, what.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
In Vietnam do as the Vietnamese do?
Speaker 4 (02:39):
It had opened like the day before, and none of
the weight staff knew what the menu was and couldn't
understand it. So I ended up putting on a clinic
to explain a text Mex menu to a bunch of
Vietnamese waiters and waitresses?
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Are you cocky like a rooster? You kind of are
a rooster, aren't you? I mean, said alarms. I got
stories early in the morning. You're up early in the morning,
you do? You were very confident. Yeah, I don't believe
in any of this, but wow, reds a sneak and
you're a rooster? And here we are, all right? Is
(03:13):
America souring its opinion on Elon Musk? And I got
to tell you on this one. You know, these kinds
of things. You have to look at how the questions
are asked. You bring up something negative like billionaire as
opposed to someone it's brilliant that can put a rocket
into space return it to it, you know. But the
question becomes is America souring on Elon Musk? Well, based
down the way this question was asked in its result,
(03:34):
possibly right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
And this is out of a series of one, two, three, four, five,
six different polls that find his approval numbers all going
in the wrong direction as of late. And that's before
what happened with that gesture, yeah stuff, So yeah, I
think people during the transition just didn't like the idea
of the world's richest man and the president becoming so buddy, buddy.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
I think we like to have that wall of separation there.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
I wonder if America would feel the same way about
Bezos or Zuckerberg or any of the others that have
surrounded themselves but as president as well.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Well, right, I think you just don't like to see
money and power, I don't know, overlap so much.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Oh, because it's never happened before.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Right, Is this where you turn into the rooster and
bring this bring this rocket back to it's a holster?
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Well yeah, and then.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Of course is recently Elon Musk recently get involved in
German politics, has gotten a little bit questionable.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
So yeah, it's just a it's a series of things.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
And then even the Tesla shareholders wire like, hey hey, hey, hey,
hey over here, pay attention to us, please, you have
a you have an obligation to do to get more
money and make more profit for Tesla for your shareholders.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah, well, I think he's probably capable of doing more
than one thing at a time. But you know I
I do this all the time with Joe Rogan. You know,
I don't think Joe Rogan should allow himself to get
sucked into politics. He'll go from twenty million down to
one million, like the rest that are in the political realm.
So people ought to be careful what they get sucked
into that might be legit. So as America souring, well,
they're open to this notion. We don't like billionaires too
(05:16):
close to president's that much probably is true.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Right, That's what it seems to be.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
And just you know, who has influence with I don't
want to say over the president, or who can influence
the president.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
You know, that's something we may not like to have
on display.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
We saw Caroline Levitt just kind of running through a
laundry list of and it's hard to keep up with
everything Donald Trump has done in his first week of office,
but there's more work to do. From the Panama Canal
to confirmation hearings RFK the betrayal of his cousin Caroline.
Rory's going to be back with that story next half hour.
Thanks Rory. All right, if you're just waking up, these
are your sounds.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Of the day and you have this sound kind of
desire to stop it, get some help ever, letting they
take your power?
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Oh god, no, no, it is by the motto keep
come come along. I bet he's I bet his Chinese
zodiac with turkey whatever it was he forgot. All right,
Here is how Kringe. Jean Pierre began her reign as
Press secretary just four years ago.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
I am obviously actually she would have been more like
three years ago. But I digress acutely.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
Aware that my presence at this podium represents a few First.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
I am a black, gay immigrant woman.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Okay, great qualifications. There's a new thirty sixth White House
Press Secretary, Caroline Levitt, twenty seven years old. She handles
things a little differently.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
Five hundred arrests ices made so far since President.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Trump came back into office. Can you just tell us
the numbers how many.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
Have a criminal record versus those who are just in
the country illegally, all of them because they illegally broke
our nation's laws and they're where they are criminals as
far as this administration goes. I know the last administration
didn't see it that way. So it's a big culture
shift in our nation to view someone who breaks our
immigration laws as a criminal.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
But that's exactly what they are here.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
And she doesn't need notes eitherre on Doge, oh, a
laundry list of embarrassing expenditures that were found.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
Listen, yes, during this pause at Doge and Omb have
actually found that there was thirty seven million dollars that
was about to go out the door to the World
Health Organization, which is an organization as you all know
that President Trump, with the swipe of his pen in
that executive order, is no longer once the United States
to be a part of, so that wouldn't be in
line with the president's agenda.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
DOJ and Omb also found that there.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
Was about to be fifty million taxpayer dollars that went
out the door to fund condoms in Gaza. That is
a preposterous waste of taxpayer money. So that's what this
pause is focused on, being good stewards of tax dollars.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
By the way, it gets even worse because the terrorists
were using balloons and condoms to deliver well, you know, explosives,
malotov cocktails on into schools. Literally, Joe Biden was spending
fifty million dollars to send a delivery system to the terrorists.
(08:20):
I wish he had elaborated on that. We talked about
the changing and how we said it would be so
wise for Donald Trump to open up the White House
press room to non traditional or what are now the
most watched and listened to sources. He's watching ABCNBCCBSMSNBCCNN, it
really Fox for that matter, and listening to Joe Rogan.
(08:44):
Sixty million people listened to Donald Trump with Joe Rogan
that Kamala refused to talk to or Megan Kelly or
Tucker Carlson or other influencers in the digital realm. Well,
the White House announced yesterday through Caroline Levitt they are
going to open that room up to digital new voices.
(09:08):
There's even a seat in the front row. I don't
know if there's gonna be wise for him to do.
But I wonder if you'll see Joe Rogan there, or
Megan Kelly or Tucker Carlson or other digital content providers
the people really are watching and listening to. As for
Joe Rogan, he was discussing the performance of JD Vance.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
In a CBS interview. Here's how it sounded. Oh my god,
it's a masterclass. He just he is. He's so good.
He is really good. Has he been here? Yes, yeah,
he's great. That Thank god for that guy.
Speaker 6 (09:43):
He's so good at dismantling those dope people and just
breaking down like she was like, this is the country
built on immigrants. He's like, yes, that doesn't mean the
two hundred and forty years later, we have to have
the dumbest immigration policy possible.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Well did you see this? I mean.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
We all can dissect and forensically explain the role of
people like Joe Rogan or or alliances lost. Keep in mind,
Tulca Gabbard, RFK Junior are all up for confirmation this week.
They were once Democrat presidential candidates. They're now going to
be the Trump administration and cabinet. Joe Rogan was once
(10:25):
a worshiper of a Barack Obama and a leftist. Now,
look how he's talking about JD. Vance and Donald Trump.
If we're right, and we are that legacy media is
the past and digital is now the reality. Guess what,
(10:45):
Donald Trump or this Trump Vance revolution now belongs to
the next generation. Another example of how the left is
playing checkers and the right isn't just playing chess. They've
already got them in checkmate. And when you do appear
on one of these, I mean, what is CNN's audience
(11:13):
when Jake Trappers on Tappers on what is it? A
couple hundred twenty five to fifty four best? So PLoP
in Donald Trump's assistant chief of staff. Just bury him.
(11:34):
Don't play their narrative game. Here's how it sounds.
Speaker 7 (11:37):
Who a question about was one of the reasons that
President Trump got elected, According to President Trump in an interview,
I think it was with Kristen Welker of NBC was
because of grocery prices. Not the only reason, but a
reason high prices in place.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Don't you love how they're all just listening and watching
each other. They don't know they're dead, they don't know
they're irrelevant. They think they are because they're watching each other.
They're caring about what each other think. They care what
they think, but America does and they've moved on. So
watch this reference and watch how we handle.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Each and especially at the grocery.
Speaker 7 (12:06):
The Department of Agriculture says that between twenty twenty and
twenty twenty two, forty two percent of crop workers were
undocumented immigrants. And in many cases, as you know, these
migrants do jobs many Americans do not want to do.
So how do you how does President Trump make sure
that the effort to deport people who are not in
(12:26):
this country legally doesn't end up hurting Americans who want
safe borders absolutely, but also don't want to see even
more higher prices in grocery.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
All right, So well, narrative. Sure, it's not your position, Jake,
It's a narrative, not a reality. Watch what Steven Miller
does with this.
Speaker 8 (12:44):
You're just ask them the question that we should supply
America's food with exploitative illegal alien labor. I obviously don't
think that's what you're implying. Only one percent of alien
workers in the entire country work in agriculture. The top
destination for illegal aliens are large cities like New York
(13:06):
like Los Angeles and small industrial talents. Of course, all
across the heartland. We as we've seen with the Biden floods,
None of those illegal aliens are doing farm work. Those
thirty thousand legal aliens that Joe Biden dumped into springs.
Speaker 7 (13:20):
I'm talking about the ones that no, no, no, but but
no no.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
But I'm explaining this. It's important to understand now you're
kind of changing with those.
Speaker 8 (13:26):
I mean no, no, I will, I will go. I
will give me thirty minutes. All goes deep to one
of this.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
I don't, audience, I don't.
Speaker 7 (13:32):
I'm talking about the ones that could that work in
the agriculture industry. What I mean, I mean explaining the
ones in the cities.
Speaker 8 (13:39):
I swear I'll do the I'll do the whole answer.
The illegal aliens that Joe Biden brought into our country
are not full stop doing farm work. They are not
the illegal aliens he brought in from Venezuela, from Haiti,
from Nicarauaugua. They are not doing farm work. They are
in our cities collecting welfare. As for the farmers, there
is a guest worker program that President Trump's support over
(14:00):
time as well. You will transition into automation, so we'll
never have to have this conversation of icye.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Dead people and they don't know they're dead.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Well, that's every day whenever you see Tom Holman come
across a biased, liberal, narrativized reporter just like this one.
Speaker 9 (14:21):
The men and win are ICE are professionals. We do
this for a living. And I can tell you I
ran ICE for years. I was the first director of
ICE count through the ranks. Again, these men and women professional,
high stent standards in the industry. We take care of
these people. But we're going to force law and we're
not going to pologize for doing it.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
And you're going to do it in a public way
with do you need to use the big military planes?
Is that part of a because of shopping or tactic?
They haven't been used before, have they for migrants? No,
we got President Trump.
Speaker 9 (14:46):
We're going to use all the government to secure our border,
which is the biggest national security vulnerability this country's ever seen.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
But we're going to force loss this country. It's not
okay to enter this country of league. It's a crime.
Speaker 9 (14:55):
And when you caused the crisis, big as a Bide administration,
cause when you overwhelm the board, Joe, but they can't
do the national security job. That's when the phatanylm come
across kill at quarter may Americans. That's when you have
a six hundred percent increase in sex trafficking. Guess you
have a record number of no inspectators coming across an
open border. President Trumps my security borders, promise to American people,
We're going to force some revision loss.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
That's what we're going to do.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
I wonder how long it's going to take them the
figure out there, gotcha questions, got them, not the person
they're asking.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
And you have the spire stop it.
Speaker 10 (15:26):
Don't you ever let anybody take your power from God.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
No, No, it is the motto keep come, come along.
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Speaker 2 (17:10):
We had a listener earlier mentioned the performance of Caroline
Levitt was like a major league baseball player hitting a
home run in their first at bat, And then we
got looking at baseball players that have done that. We
left one off the list. Aaron Judge of the New
York Yankees, who got a home runners first at bat
ever in the Majors and his second at bat ever
in the majerse. He went back to back in his
(17:31):
first day, All Rise for the Great One. I'm going
to compare some of Joe Rogan's numbers to CNN and
even Fox News to make a profound point when your
morning show continues next.
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And you know there's a lot.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Of them out there, but uh yeah, there's just something
about this one. I mean, I put a cup of
coffee in here at three thirty in the morning, and
I tell you I'm sipping it not only as it
as warm as when I poured it in there. It
has the exact same taste, doesn't feel like it's been
still in the same sitting. But if we could get
one like that and then just have my face at
the very bottom that way I am in their cup,
(18:53):
that would be and I'd be looking up like this
right with my hair sticking up.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Every good morning drink to get to the bottom. Well,
that's almost read bull.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Time thirty six minutes after the hour in the East Coast,
you got about two.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Twenty four minutes to be to work on time. Thanks
for bringing us along with you.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
If you're listening on the iHeartRadio app, you notice that
little microphone that's a talkback button. Friend of ours actually invented.
You press that count you down three to two to one.
It gives you thirty seconds to ask a question make
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(19:32):
and don't forget if you miss any of the show,
like we did a whole opening segment comparing Caroline Levitt
not to cringe on Pierre, but to Caroline Kennedy. Are
dueling Carolines in the news today. You don't want to
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pop right up. Then hit subscribe. That way you can
hear it every morning and get reminders and you won't
miss it anything. I was having a conversation with a friend,
and I think they were surprised, you know that, because
(20:16):
I wasn't trying to impress them. I was trying to
impress upon them. And what it did is it broke
the perception, like believe it or not. If you're in
downtown Manhattan you walk by the Fox building, they still
have all their personalities pictures like billboard size all along
(20:39):
the side of the building.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
They're promos.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
The way they talk about themselves, the way they talk
to each other, like they're bigger than life and everybody's watching.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
But they're not.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
I'll give you an example. You might be impressed if
somebody told you, Hey, I'm the new eight pm host
on CNN. Wow, you're on CNN, like Larry King is
still there, like everybody's still watching. Do you know what
CNN's viewership is adults twenty five to fifty four. They're worldwide,
(21:18):
and their audience is one hundred and eighteen thy twenty
five to fifty four at eight pm. Now Fox is
three hundred and forty thousand, and that's a big win
over CNN.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
But that's really not a big win.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
And we're not talk about when Uncle Milty had ninety
seven percent of the television's watching him on the Milton
Burl Show or mash or All in the Family. And
when I was talking to this person, I said, you
realize I had right at one hundred and thousand, one
hundred thousand people twenty five to fifty four listening to
(21:50):
me in Tulsa, Oklahoma in nineteen ninety five, market size
sixty four. I mean, your perception versus reality. Well, it's
a big mistake the Democrats made.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Right.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
They're wanting to be on sixty minutes. They're wanting to
be on CNN. Nightly MSNBC. Donald Trump was on Joe Rogan,
so let's compare him Donald Trump's visit with Joe Rogan.
I said sixty million. It was technically fifty five million,
but that's YouTube below. That doesn't count Spotify, so it's
well over sixty million. Let's just do the YouTube number.
(22:27):
This is the lowest you could possibly look at. It
probably reach closer to eighty million, But fifty five million
watched Joe Rogan and Donald Trump visit on YouTube. Nineteen
million watched jd Evans, nineteen million, watched Elon Musk nine
point two, Mel Gibson eight point five Zuckerberg. Now compare
(22:54):
that to CNN's twenty five to fifty four audience of
one hundred and eighteen thousand. You could be on eight
pm Prime Time CNN every night. Technically this isn't true,
but you'd have to be on every night for two
years to match that fifty five million number.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
But that would even be unique people.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
You'd be reaching pretty much the same one hundred and
eighteen thousand, three hundred and sixty five times and unique viewerships. Now,
there's two kinds of America right now. There's the America
that gets that probably under forty years old. I remember
(23:45):
as a leader and as a manager. This isn't even
done in radio anymore. People don't even have marketing models,
let alone target audience, let alone target their product to
that audience. But we had a audience was sixty forty
mail twenty five fifty four. We had a bullseye. We
(24:06):
even gave it a name. He was a husband. He
was forty two years old, his wife was forty. They
had three children. That's who we're talking to, and it
should shape the story selection, how you talk about it,
how you storytell So how ironic is it that we're
(24:27):
talking about Eh, if you're forty or under, you know,
Joe Rogan's a big deal. Being featured on ABC Nightly News.
That's not a big deal. Being on the Today Show
of the View, That's not a big deal. Being on
CNN or MSNBC or even Fox for that matter. It's
really not a big deal. These are world wide product
(24:50):
providers with nineteen ninety five Tulsa, Oklahoma ratings.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Think about that.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
That's the difference between perception and reality and playing chess.
Trump got it, commonly didn't. What does this have to
end to do with anything. Well, this is why, Caroline Levitt,
(25:18):
twenty seven year old White House Press secretary, made the
announcement things are changing, announcing that Trump White House will
open up the briefing room to independent journalists, podcasters, social
(25:39):
media influencers, and content creators. Why because that's a reality.
The old model of having.
Speaker 10 (25:50):
The reporter from CNN, Fox, MSNBC, ABC, NBCCBS, Washington Post
and PRPBS, some news of paper from England, some television
station from Ireland. Those days are over. They have no influence,
(26:10):
they have no audience. It's not where people are anymore.
Now listen, if you wanted to today in twenty twenty five,
you know, play the game. I'll start mailing letters every day.
Most people are texting and emailing. There's two ways to
(26:32):
look at this story. Well, this is brilliant.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
This is why.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
And we're going to visit with him next hour, our
White House correspondent, John Decker. He doesn't recognize half the
people in that room anymore. And it's not really Donald
Trump being brilliant. It's Donald Trump being reasonable, rational, common sensical,
(26:58):
Donald Trump living in reality. Now, the other side of
that coin is I don't know that Joe Rogan should
go there. Joe Rogan didn't get twenty million people watching
in any given week because he was playing the police,
sucked into playing the political partisan game. He should just
talk about whatever is interesting with people who are interesting.
(27:20):
That's what built his audience. It's gonna be very interesting
to see how Joe Rogan responds to being such a
political lightning rod. I'd stay out of their weather system
if I was him, because once you're in, it's hard
to get out. But there's no question they belong in
(27:41):
that room. They even identified a seat in the front
row that'll be just four people like Joe Rogan, Charlemagne
de god The vonn Megan, Kelly Tucker Carlson. There might
(28:07):
even be bloggers in the room. Why because that's where
the audience is. It may sound crazy to say this
out loud to you, but an influencer on TikTok has
more business being in that room than an anchor for
ABC News. I mean, yeah, it's a great story. Yeah,
(28:32):
we said he should do it, and he's doing it.
It's fun to see a White House that's this smart,
not just to get elected, but to stay connected to
the people that elected them. That's great and that is
an angle that somebody on radio today could go on
and on for an hour, and I would certainly applaud it.
(28:57):
But the reverse of it is if in your mind
you don't see Joe Rogan, gosh, somebody do the quick
math on this. I might need Suth Frederico from me
Cold Classic to do the numbers for me. You're comparing
sixty million people on YouTube alone to one hundred and
(29:20):
eighteen thousand nightly on CNN. I don't even know what
that is. But if it doesn't strike you, is ten
what would it be be over sixty?
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Right?
Speaker 2 (29:32):
It would almost be sixty times that. It would be
almost like one hundred and sixty times greater? Is one
hundred eighteen thousand times one hundred and sixty close to
sixty million? If so, why did I fail geometry?
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Yeah? That's shapes I did.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
I went to summer school for geometry. Isn't that embarrassing?
Of all things? Really said? That's like failing Jim Well, yeah,
a little more. All I remember is Isaceles triangle.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
That's all I remember. By the way, I've never had
to use geometry. I don't think in real life. What
was it?
Speaker 2 (30:05):
By the way, one hundred and sixty times one hundred
eighteen thousand. Now I'm just testing my own math abilities.
But you're not very quick, right, are you even listening
to this show? What are you listening to?
Speaker 3 (30:18):
I'll do it.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
I gotta do everything myself around here on hundred eighteen
thousand times one hundred and sixty. No, it's not even that.
That's only eighteen million.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Back.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Would it be well closer to four times that, so
it would be one hundred and eighteen thousand.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Times five hundred. Yeah, So get rid of it. Okay.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
So if you're not thinking that Joe Rogan's audience is
five hundred times bigger than CNN, If in your mind
CNN still seems big, even a big enemy that must
be defeated, you.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Don't get it. They're nothing, They're nobody.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
When you think of CNN, you need to think of
me on KRMG in Tulso Calaholm in nineteen ninety four.
That's how small it is. The Fox ain't much bigger.
America has changed. We're not sitting around in prime time
listening to an old fashioned radio or quite frankly, watching television,
(31:25):
or even having any shared experience. And there are a
handful of big ones out there. They're just not on
any of these networks. So why are they in this room?
And shouldn't they be in this room? Well, the announcement
from Caroline Levitt maybe the most significant story of the
day is they're about to be in this room very soon.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Some of them are already there. This is your Morning
Show with Michael del Chrono.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Trump says he's asked Elon Musk, CEO of SpaceX, to
go up there and finally.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Get Butch and Sonny. What a brilliant PR move that is.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Meanwhile, from control of the Panama Canal to the confirmation
hearings of RFK Junior, I guess to the attacks of
Caroline Kennedy on her own cousin, Congress is working hard
on President Trump's agenda for a second term. National correspondent
Roy O'Neil is here to take a look at Trump's
plans and how they're faring on Capitol Hill.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Good morning, Rory.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
Yeah, I had laughed when you called that a PR move.
I'd use two other letters, but go right ahead. Well
they were up there. What were they supposed to be there?
Just a few days?
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Right? Got eight to twelve days?
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Eight to twelve days and it's turned into how many months?
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Whatever was June to now?
Speaker 4 (32:48):
But I just laughed because I've told Elon Musk to
go up and rescue them. Well, the mission is already
scheduled to go up and get them in March. It's
been on the books for months when we figured out
this plan, and how many times that they had plans
to go up and get them though, it's it's it's
because the SpaceX capsule is late for delivery. So it's
(33:09):
Elon Musk's delay because they were going to go up
in late February. Then SpaceX said, sorry, we're not going
to be ready in time.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
We goodn't. We're going to have to wait until March.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
So I mean, and that's the whole point of the
program is to have two competing companies so that if
one had a problem, the other would be there. But yeah,
so this they were supposed to be coming home on
Starliner when they decided that, no, that's too risky. We're
going to bring you home on a SpaceX capsule when
it's ready in the spring. Initially was going to be February,
but again SpaceX said, no, we're running late.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
It's going to be March.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
So then you see these truth social and ex posts saying, yes,
we're coming to the rescue.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Well here's the but here's and here's the other six
months and here's the other bottom line. Even if that
were true, all right, go up and get them. How
long would that take the plan? And would you beat march?
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Right? That's what you're saying, right, No, No, it's all
just it's all just not yeah, all right, you know
what you call it. It's not br right.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
I say the sun comes up tomorrow, that's my deck.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
The son's coming up. Well, yeah, it was already going
to come up tom You didn't need mean to say that.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
I mean, all right, back to our original question, how
is Congress handling the Trump agenda?
Speaker 4 (34:15):
Well, I think we saw a lot of confusion on
Capitol Hill yesterday with that whole announcement about the budgets
being frozen and the spending stopping.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
But what exactly did that apply to?
Speaker 4 (34:24):
So I think a lot of that uncertainty caused a
lot of the chaos we were getting. Now, of course,
the hearings that are starting today with RFK Junior, let's
see just how tough the questioning is. After Caroline Kennedy's
video release of the letter that she sent to the
committees should be interesting to see some of the questions.
But look, Bobby Kennedy Junior is very good at this,
(34:45):
and I'll it'd be interesting to see if the Senators
are really prepared to go toe to toe with them, because.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
And I would think his opinions. Yeah, well, and he's smart,
He's very smart. And yep, this guy has fought very
big cases. He can handle the questioning from these people.
But he's going to be making the overall case of
making America healthy again. Can anybody make the case that
we are healthy? I think if you can steer it
to if you can steer it to that.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
And he went away from what was in the blender
to feed the hawks, he wins.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
What do you did you think it was appropriate?
Speaker 2 (35:19):
I mean, what qualifications does Caroline Kennedy have to make these?
Speaker 3 (35:23):
I mean the personalel tacks, yes, but not the.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
We agree though that she knows him better than Donald
Trump knows him.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Maybe not.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
No, I don't know that I agree with that. Who
knows how long it's been since she sung out with him.
I just thought it was completely inappropriate. The age of
when you have nothing good to say. But but even
that aside at the end when she makes it personal
and calls her own cousin a predator, and I don't
think anybody, I mean, maybe maybe some of these senators
will take cues from that, but I think he's more
(35:54):
than up to answer any of those allegations from her
or from them.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
But we'll find out. Today's the big day, right, uh, yeah,
the first of two. He's back tomorrow to a different
committee as well. All Right, Roy and Neil, great reporting.
We'll talk again tomorrow, follow up on that.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
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