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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Previously on Your Morning show with Michael Del.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Choano, David said something off the air, there's I bring
David up, and he's we can all see each other
and Red and I can see him talk to David.
But there's no way for Jeffrey to be heard by
David unless I turn up a feed and then the
feed creates slap back and then Jeffrey argues about it,
and David just said, I really hate not being able
to hear from Jeffrey. And I just said, off the air,
(00:25):
You're not missing anything. All it is is constant negativity,
not coming up next half hour one of my favorite boy,
jeff I can't believe you betrayed me in such a way,
but I'm surrounded by enemies. I'm used to it. Chris
Meyers started in New Orleans at ww well and went
on to have a great career with the ESPN. I
think he's been with Fox now for a decade. He's
(00:46):
out with a new book I want you to hear
all about and he's going to preview the super Bowl
for his next half hour, and you know his big
wisecrack David is don't fall asleep, And I'm like, I
slept through one interview. You have a history. It's a
history of one mister show. I've been in radio forty
one years, talk radio thirty six years. One day I
(01:07):
take a nap, but I oversleep my Craig T. Nelson interview. Yep. Well,
and then also you got through.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
The beginning sleeping through the interview when it's on the air.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Hey, not so fast, you do you who? I call
it an assassination attempt. The virus you gave me that
took three weeks to get over. One hug and a steak,
and I nearly died from this guy. And then he
has the nerve to a show up with a brick
wall bind him. Looks like you're getting ready to get
assassinated and executed, and he goes, boy, he sounds like
you're really finally over it. Yes, it took three that
(01:38):
was a nasty virus we had. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Yeah, Well, then I wake up this morning and I
know it's a day two on a five hundred time.
But then you're telling Darryl and Stevie Walter stories, which
once we get started, we can't stop. We had a
whole segment, We did a whole show on the Public
Square on we could have done three on different stories
of their lives. And we were sitting together recently and
I heard a story I'd never heard before, and that
(02:02):
was how Stevie Waltrip took on NASCAR in the early
years because women were not allowed on Pitt Road and
women were not allowed inside the.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Different Their husband can go out and maybe die, but
they can't be with them before the race.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Well, and she really was a pioneer and she basically
with Grace, but she defied every rule and kept marching.
You could do a Netflix series on her market through
Nascar in regards to the two of them working together.
And then the great story is that when he won
the Daytona five hundred for the first time, it was
Stevie who was running the laps of the mileage on
(02:38):
the gasoline and it was a discussion between Darryl and
Stevie and the end as to whether he should.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Gas one more time or go. It's a great story
they are. If I didn't know them, I would make
this observation. First of all, it's one of the great
redemption stories. Yeah, people forget Darryl Waltrip was like the Raiders.
He was the bad guy, and that's what I gravitated
towards him, and you know, I was a huge fan.
I told a story of what would he be doing
(03:05):
in Nashville at a Christmas in America. So I'm up
there to encourage you, give you a hug, and the
guy is standing facing away from He turns around and
it's Daral walterp Well. I was just stunned, and I
couldn't speak, and he's shaking my hand and I couldn't speak,
and I'm staring at his hand. And then I turned
to Stevie and I did notice in a split second
her beautiful eyes. But you know, I finally am going
to speak, and what comes out of my mouth is
(03:27):
you're married to Daryl Waltrip like an idiot, and she
cracks up. It really happened, guys, I was there. But
this bad guy has turned out to be one of
the most broken, tender, godlike believers you will ever meet.
He's one of the sweetest men. And how I ended
up at a wedding of Michael Carr's daughter, whose music
(03:48):
I loved when I first became a Christian. And I'm
at the wedding watching Michael Carr dance with his daughter.
My friend dance with her son, and I feel a
presence to my left and it's Darrel walterp saying he
no longer feels comfortable giving me a car. He's going
to uber me home. How does that happen? But old
d W you wouldn't know it, seventy eight years old today. Yeah,
(04:09):
after we get off the air, we should call him. Yeah,
he's looking great too, And him and Stevie are just
two amazing, precious people. All right, enough about the wall trips.
I get to tell what I'm more Michael Carr's story.
Though there a lot of people listening right now.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
No Michael cart Or they know his songs, Oh Love,
Crucified and Rose known by the Scars. So Michael and
Stevie are in Israel on a trip on a on
a tour and they are at the Whaling Wall, all right,
And of course this is the internationally globally recognized point
of prayer for the Jewish people here, for the historic
(04:43):
Whaling Wall. And they're there and they're kind of close
to the wall, and behind them they begin to hear
some people singing. They look behind them and there's a
group of Asian people there, and I'm almost certain they
were changing, but that not exactly positive. Now the story
goes a group of Asian people in a circle singing.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
El Shadai, Oh my Lord that Michael wrote by the
way that Amy made famous. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
You know what he does now on Wednesday nights, Michael Card,
he teaches his studies a lot. He teaches a Bible
study in a little country church in Tennessee. They I
don't know what promoter, is this an ad D Wednesday
or what. We're just kind of free flowing on everything
looks and two thousand and seven, and we have so
many stories to tell.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
We know this one's actually in New Orleans. So I
was a huge Michael Michael Card fan, and and I
like Leon Pattillo Cornerstone, j E. S U s He
he had a lot of a lot of great hits.
And but somebody made the idea, let's put Michael Card
on tour with Leon Pattillo. So when we show up
for the concert, there's people ready to have a party
(05:54):
in a good time, you know, because Leon Pattillo was
more party like type music. Michael Card, Michael Card, Keith
Green and Rich Mullins. When I listened to their lyrics,
I know instantly these people have been in the presence
of God in ways I never have, all right, And
so Michael Card comes out. He's the opening act with
(06:16):
somebody on a cello, Michael Card and one other like
giant bass type musician. And this guy with pure annoying
blows me away while everybody's talking while he's performing, because
they're there to have a party. And then Patilla comes
on and you know all you know what breaks listen,
and I remember leaving there so depressed, thinking the presence
(06:38):
of God and the annoying arrived and everybody missed it
looking for a party. I just it blew me away
at that age. Let alone flash forward. I met his
daughter's wedding and Tarrel Waltrip saying I can't add the
keys to his car. He's gonna drive me home. Only
in Nashville, only in America, Only in the Kingdom of
God can these kinds of things happen? All right? Well,
then why not a rip? Why not the Riviera in
(06:59):
the Middle East? I mean, why not have a New
York strip stake at the Caesars Palace runs Chris Tite
straight steak house in the Gaza.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Well, the world has got a lot more tolerance for
Donald Trump than I think we may have anticipated. Uh.
And this is not This is style, but it's also substance.
This is the way this guy thinks. And now he's
thinking out loud because he can, and because he's amassed
around him a team of people that are also thoughtful
(07:29):
and doers and hard workers, he has the ability to
walk into a situation and say why not. Now that
is a refreshing reality for leadership. Leadership. The first responsibility
of a leader, according to Max Dupree and his book
Leadership is an Art, is to define reality. So Trump
walks in and says, Okay, this has been the mess
(07:50):
for X hundred years. Would you all like to change this?
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (07:53):
And they may reach out to it. Yeah, of course
they do. People do everywhere.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
People do it in the local county board of elections,
they do it on the Gaza strip. But this is
the style of a guy who comes to life as
a problem solver and not as a politician, and particularly
unleashed by the fact he knows he cannot serve another term.
And so why not If it's in your mind and
you think it might work, why not say.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
It out loud? What's the worst that could happen. Okay, Now,
one thing we have is poor narrative reporting. So the
narrative today is that Donald Trump wants to seize the
Gaza Strip, own the Gaza Strip, displace all Palestinians, and
move bar Lago there and move Marlago there. Okay, that's
not what he said. In fact, even in the Q
(08:35):
and A, and it even happened with John Decker, he
made it clear. I mean, first of all, Donald Trump's
talking from this perspective, look at some footage of the
Gaza Strip. There's nothing to come home to. So doing
nothing is not a solution. They can't. They're just placed
right now. There's nothing to come home to it. The
buildings are shelves, so you know, obviously it's a disaster
(08:56):
area now. And what he said was, we'll come in,
we'll level it, we will rebuild it. It'll be a
beautiful place filled with great jobs, a great secure life,
and will stop re living this nightmare over and over
again every decade, over five decades. That's what he said.
In the Q and A. Somebody said, well, who's going
to live there? And at first the first words out
(09:17):
of his mouth were, well, the people of the world,
of course, And I thought, where you're going with this
riviera of the Middle East and people of the world,
you know, but certainly all the Palestinians will come back
to this beautiful place, but others that want to live
there too, So he didn't say he's kicking them out
and they're going to stay out, you know, that's number one,
correct that number two. It's an idea. And as much
(09:40):
as you want to laugh at it or disregard it
or even suggest well, maybe that's for the Muslims to do,
but they don't. And when they do, they keep putting
terrorists in charge, which just brings on a terrorist attack
and then a retaliation. So how many times are we
going to do this? And it's not insanity, So make
(10:02):
fun of this idea all you want, but that doesn't
change the conditions on the ground, and you don't have
a better idea. And status quo is certainly not a solution.
That's relevant too.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
And what's interesting is this is not our first time
around watching his style, and so this is the disruptor.
But he's not an irresponsible disruptor. Of course, anyone in Washington,
DC that gets disruptive claims not only is the person
irresponsible and vicious and hateful, but they file lawsuits. We're
watching now as the DOGE team starts to get involved
(10:34):
in getting access to how the federal bureaucracy works, and
everywhere they turn there are protests and lawsuits. Because this
is like kicking over an ant hill. I mean, I
don't know if you've ever stood outside and watched the
morning walk through in Washington, d C. But you can
stand outside on a street corner and watch going into
the House and Senate buildings where they actually have their offices.
(10:56):
People line up like ants in an ant hill. But
it's like three blocks to get through the metal detectors,
and these are all the drones that walk through. These
are wonderful humans, don't get me wrong, but it's a
drone like process. They walk through into their beehive or
their antil where they basically serve the bureaucracy. You come
in and say, excuse me, have you ever thought about
why don't we change this? Here's an idea. Let's get
(11:17):
another metal detector, not heavy standing in the street for
twenty minutes. As soon as you touch a thing, somebody
wants to sue you because you kicked over their ends.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
This is guy's not I'm taking a cheap shot when
he's out on the air, But I did it when
he was on the air, and I just want to
reiterate it. You know when John Decker, I understand bringing
up a list. Well, first it's Greenland, then it's the
Panama Canal, then it's Canada, then it's Mexico. Now the Gaza.
Well that's not true because we know there was no
trade war. It was over before it started and won
(11:46):
by Donald Trump. You never wanted to make Canada the
fifty first aid and wanted to wake Canadians up to
their sovereignty. And they need us more than we need them,
and they've been taking advantage of us financially. Now, if
you don't want to respectfully come to the table, well
I'll bring to the table by force. And to the
table they came and it's solved. So it begs the question, well,
this is different. This is the epicenter of the epicenter
(12:07):
of the epicenter of the world. Does he really want
to own the Gaza any more than he wanted to
own the Panama Canal or own Canada as a fifty
first date or is this something even more brilliant that
would lead to a solution that we don't know either,
or maybe he literally wants to own it and build
a casino. I don't know well, and it could be
(12:29):
any or all of the above.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
But chances are with a person that has now only
forty four months a week we think we're forty months
away from the next election being in full swing. That's
how little time he has, he's speaking his mind and
asking the why not questions. We recognize that no human
has that much capacity, But who knows.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Miss a little, miss a lot, miss a lot, and
will miss you. It's your Morning show with Michael del Chuno.
Previously on Your Morning show with Michael Del.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Choano, David said something off the air, there's I bring
David up, and he's we can all see each other
and Red and I can see him talk to David.
But there's no way for Jeffrey to be heard by
David unless I turn up a feed and then the
feed creates slap back and then Jeffrey argues about it,
and David just said, I really hate not being able
to hear from Jeffrey. And I just said, off the air,
(00:25):
You're not missing anything. All it is is constant negativity,
not coming up next half hour one of my favorite boy,
jeff I can't believe you betrayed me in such a way,
but I'm surrounded by enemies. I'm used to it. Chris
Meyers started in New Orleans at ww well and went
on to have a great career with the ESPN. I
think he's been with Fox now for a decade. He's
(00:46):
out with a new book I want you to hear
all about and he's going to preview the super Bowl
for his next half hour, and you know his big
wisecrack David is don't fall asleep, And I'm like, I
slept through one interview. You have a history. It's a
history of one mister show. I've been in radio forty
one years, talk radio thirty six years. One day I
(01:07):
take a nap, but I oversleep my Craig T. Nelson interview. Yep. Well,
and then also you got through.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
The beginning sleeping through the interview when it's on the air.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Hey, not so fast, you do you who? I call
it an assassination attempt. The virus you gave me that
took three weeks to get over. One hug and a steak,
and I nearly died from this guy. And then he
has the nerve to a show up with a brick
wall bind him. Looks like you're getting ready to get
assassinated and executed, and he goes, boy, he sounds like
you're really finally over it. Yes, it took three that
(01:38):
was a nasty virus we had. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Yeah, Well, then I wake up this morning and I
know it's a day two on a five hundred time.
But then you're telling Darryl and Stevie Walter stories, which
once we get started, we can't stop. We had a
whole segment, We did a whole show on the Public
Square on we could have done three on different stories
of their lives. And we were sitting together recently and
I heard a story I'd never heard before, and that
(02:02):
was how Stevie Waltrip took on NASCAR in the early
years because women were not allowed on Pitt Road and
women were not allowed inside the.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Different Their husband can go out and maybe die, but
they can't be with them before the race.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Well, and she really was a pioneer and she basically
with Grace, but she defied every rule and kept marching.
You could do a Netflix series on her market through
Nascar in regards to the two of them working together.
And then the great story is that when he won
the Daytona five hundred for the first time, it was
Stevie who was running the laps of the mileage on
(02:38):
the gasoline and it was a discussion between Darryl and
Stevie and the end as to whether he should.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Gas one more time or go. It's a great story
they are. If I didn't know them, I would make
this observation. First of all, it's one of the great
redemption stories. Yeah, people forget Darryl Waltrip was like the Raiders.
He was the bad guy, and that's what I gravitated
towards him, and you know, I was a huge fan.
I told a story of what would he be doing
(03:05):
in Nashville at a Christmas in America. So I'm up
there to encourage you, give you a hug, and the
guy is standing facing away from He turns around and
it's Daral walterp Well. I was just stunned, and I
couldn't speak, and he's shaking my hand and I couldn't speak,
and I'm staring at his hand. And then I turned
to Stevie and I did notice in a split second
her beautiful eyes. But you know, I finally am going
to speak, and what comes out of my mouth is
(03:27):
you're married to Daryl Waltrip like an idiot, and she
cracks up. It really happened, guys, I was there. But
this bad guy has turned out to be one of
the most broken, tender, godlike believers you will ever meet.
He's one of the sweetest men. And how I ended
up at a wedding of Michael Carr's daughter, whose music
(03:48):
I loved when I first became a Christian. And I'm
at the wedding watching Michael Carr dance with his daughter.
My friend dance with her son, and I feel a
presence to my left and it's Darrel walterp saying he
no longer feels comfortable giving me a car. He's going
to uber me home. How does that happen? But old
d W you wouldn't know it, seventy eight years old today. Yeah,
(04:09):
after we get off the air, we should call him. Yeah,
he's looking great too, And him and Stevie are just
two amazing, precious people. All right, enough about the wall trips.
I get to tell what I'm more Michael Carr's story.
Though there a lot of people listening right now.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
No Michael cart Or they know his songs, Oh Love,
Crucified and Rose known by the Scars. So Michael and
Stevie are in Israel on a trip on a on
a tour and they are at the Whaling Wall, all right,
And of course this is the internationally globally recognized point
of prayer for the Jewish people here, for the historic
(04:43):
Whaling Wall. And they're there and they're kind of close
to the wall, and behind them they begin to hear
some people singing. They look behind them and there's a
group of Asian people there, and I'm almost certain they
were changing, but that not exactly positive. Now the story
goes a group of Asian people in a circle singing.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
El Shadai, Oh my Lord that Michael wrote by the
way that Amy made famous. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
You know what he does now on Wednesday nights, Michael Card,
he teaches his studies a lot. He teaches a Bible
study in a little country church in Tennessee. They I
don't know what promoter, is this an ad D Wednesday
or what. We're just kind of free flowing on everything
looks and two thousand and seven, and we have so
many stories to tell.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
We know this one's actually in New Orleans. So I
was a huge Michael Michael Card fan, and and I
like Leon Pattillo Cornerstone, j E. S U s He
he had a lot of a lot of great hits.
And but somebody made the idea, let's put Michael Card
on tour with Leon Pattillo. So when we show up
for the concert, there's people ready to have a party
(05:54):
in a good time, you know, because Leon Pattillo was
more party like type music. Michael Card, Michael Card, Keith
Green and Rich Mullins. When I listened to their lyrics,
I know instantly these people have been in the presence
of God in ways I never have, all right, And
so Michael Card comes out. He's the opening act with
(06:16):
somebody on a cello, Michael Card and one other like
giant bass type musician. And this guy with pure annoying
blows me away while everybody's talking while he's performing, because
they're there to have a party. And then Patilla comes
on and you know all you know what breaks listen,
and I remember leaving there so depressed, thinking the presence
(06:38):
of God and the annoying arrived and everybody missed it
looking for a party. I just it blew me away
at that age. Let alone flash forward. I met his
daughter's wedding and Tarrel Waltrip saying I can't add the
keys to his car. He's gonna drive me home. Only
in Nashville, only in America, Only in the Kingdom of
God can these kinds of things happen? All right? Well,
then why not a rip? Why not the Riviera in
(06:59):
the Middle East? I mean, why not have a New
York strip stake at the Caesars Palace runs Chris Tite
straight steak house in the Gaza.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Well, the world has got a lot more tolerance for
Donald Trump than I think we may have anticipated. Uh.
And this is not This is style, but it's also substance.
This is the way this guy thinks. And now he's
thinking out loud because he can, and because he's amassed
around him a team of people that are also thoughtful
(07:29):
and doers and hard workers, he has the ability to
walk into a situation and say why not. Now that
is a refreshing reality for leadership. Leadership. The first responsibility
of a leader, according to Max Dupree and his book
Leadership is an Art, is to define reality. So Trump
walks in and says, Okay, this has been the mess
(07:50):
for X hundred years. Would you all like to change this?
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (07:53):
And they may reach out to it. Yeah, of course
they do. People do everywhere.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
People do it in the local county board of elections,
they do it on the Gaza strip. But this is
the style of a guy who comes to life as
a problem solver and not as a politician, and particularly
unleashed by the fact he knows he cannot serve another term.
And so why not If it's in your mind and
you think it might work, why not say.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
It out loud? What's the worst that could happen. Okay, Now,
one thing we have is poor narrative reporting. So the
narrative today is that Donald Trump wants to seize the
Gaza Strip, own the Gaza Strip, displace all Palestinians, and
move bar Lago there and move Marlago there. Okay, that's
not what he said. In fact, even in the Q
(08:35):
and A, and it even happened with John Decker, he
made it clear. I mean, first of all, Donald Trump's
talking from this perspective, look at some footage of the
Gaza Strip. There's nothing to come home to. So doing
nothing is not a solution. They can't. They're just placed
right now. There's nothing to come home to it. The
buildings are shelves, so you know, obviously it's a disaster
(08:56):
area now. And what he said was, we'll come in,
we'll level it, we will rebuild it. It'll be a
beautiful place filled with great jobs, a great secure life,
and will stop re living this nightmare over and over
again every decade, over five decades. That's what he said.
In the Q and A. Somebody said, well, who's going
to live there? And at first the first words out
(09:17):
of his mouth were, well, the people of the world,
of course, And I thought, where you're going with this
riviera of the Middle East and people of the world,
you know, but certainly all the Palestinians will come back
to this beautiful place, but others that want to live
there too, So he didn't say he's kicking them out
and they're going to stay out, you know, that's number one,
correct that number two. It's an idea. And as much
(09:40):
as you want to laugh at it or disregard it
or even suggest well, maybe that's for the Muslims to do,
but they don't. And when they do, they keep putting
terrorists in charge, which just brings on a terrorist attack
and then a retaliation. So how many times are we
going to do this? And it's not insanity, So make
(10:02):
fun of this idea all you want, but that doesn't
change the conditions on the ground, and you don't have
a better idea. And status quo is certainly not a solution.
That's relevant too.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
And what's interesting is this is not our first time
around watching his style, and so this is the disruptor.
But he's not an irresponsible disruptor. Of course, anyone in Washington,
DC that gets disruptive claims not only is the person
irresponsible and vicious and hateful, but they file lawsuits. We're
watching now as the DOGE team starts to get involved
(10:34):
in getting access to how the federal bureaucracy works, and
everywhere they turn there are protests and lawsuits. Because this
is like kicking over an ant hill. I mean, I
don't know if you've ever stood outside and watched the
morning walk through in Washington, d C. But you can
stand outside on a street corner and watch going into
the House and Senate buildings where they actually have their offices.
(10:56):
People line up like ants in an ant hill. But
it's like three blocks to get through the metal detectors,
and these are all the drones that walk through. These
are wonderful humans, don't get me wrong, but it's a
drone like process. They walk through into their beehive or
their antil where they basically serve the bureaucracy. You come
in and say, excuse me, have you ever thought about
why don't we change this? Here's an idea. Let's get
(11:17):
another metal detector, not heavy standing in the street for
twenty minutes. As soon as you touch a thing, somebody
wants to sue you because you kicked over their ends.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
This is guy's not I'm taking a cheap shot when
he's out on the air, But I did it when
he was on the air, and I just want to
reiterate it. You know when John Decker, I understand bringing
up a list. Well, first it's Greenland, then it's the
Panama Canal, then it's Canada, then it's Mexico. Now the Gaza.
Well that's not true because we know there was no
trade war. It was over before it started and won
(11:46):
by Donald Trump. You never wanted to make Canada the
fifty first aid and wanted to wake Canadians up to
their sovereignty. And they need us more than we need them,
and they've been taking advantage of us financially. Now, if
you don't want to respectfully come to the table, well
I'll bring to the table by force. And to the
table they came and it's solved. So it begs the question, well,
this is different. This is the epicenter of the epicenter
(12:07):
of the epicenter of the world. Does he really want
to own the Gaza any more than he wanted to
own the Panama Canal or own Canada as a fifty
first date or is this something even more brilliant that
would lead to a solution that we don't know either,
or maybe he literally wants to own it and build
a casino. I don't know well, and it could be
(12:29):
any or all of the above.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
But chances are with a person that has now only
forty four months a week we think we're forty months
away from the next election being in full swing. That's
how little time he has, he's speaking his mind and
asking the why not questions. We recognize that no human
has that much capacity, But who knows.
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