Post CPAC, we ask senior contributor Dave Zanotti what even is conservativism. Has the Reagan revolution, Tea Party movement and MAGA all merged into something singular? And after Trump, who owns it???
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Previously on Your Morning Show with Michael del Chno.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Coming out of Sea Pack, we asked the question, has
the Reagan Revolution, the Tea Party movement, and the Maga
Trump is a movement all merged into one singular movement?
And after Donald Trump is gone in four years, who
owns it? Because it may be the single right question
(00:30):
to ask to get the answer to.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Could the Democrats run?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
I mean, I could pick wes Moore and Maryland, but
could they run somebody in twenty eight and get the
White House right back? The answer depends on the answer
to this question of the day, and the right person
answered is David Sanati. He is the CEO of the
American Policy Roundtable, presides over I voters. I believe the
Crown Jewel to be the Public Square heard on two
hundred stations and online any time, Public Square dot com.
(01:02):
I'm exhausted, and he is our senior contributor. David, what
is the answer to that question? Has the Reagan Revolution,
Tea Party Movement, and Mega movement all merged into one
singular thing?
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Well, first off, it's a great question, and it is
the question, and it's one that begs at least half
a dozen more which I hope today tomorrow we'll get
our chance to talk about with some of these really
good stories.
Speaker 5 (01:26):
And of course my head is twitching. I'm already out
of joint.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
I got to go for the advert because you said
the word movement three times and started by saying seapac
to start with, because.
Speaker 5 (01:37):
It really does beg the question what is a conservative?
Speaker 2 (01:40):
That's something by the way you pursued an answer for
you'll have to share that journey with but.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
We'll get there.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
Yeah, I've been I've been asking that.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Question for forty five years. So the question is the
merging of minds and constituencies.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
And let's go back to this.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
If what you're doing is the same thing that the
major can vaulting firms have done for years and on
occasion for a great amount of money, of taught people
how to do. In the old days, they would use
a whiteboard I'm sure it's more sophisticated today, and they
would create a universe of voters. You just put on
the universe three different flows of people.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
The goal of the of.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
The exercise is at the end to get to fifty
percent plus one and win a national election.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Well let me let me just interrupt and say if
the Reagan Revolution, which has an age ceiling, that's right, right,
because i am the young end of the Reagan Revolution
and I'm sixty, so I'm virtually demographically irrelevant, but I'm
alive and I'm influential, and I'm on the scene to
contribute to that fifty one percent. The key Party movement
(02:45):
was natural, not financially created, not led by anyone. It
naturally was an organic movement. Are you kidding me? This
is what you're doing with our tax dollars? Are you
kidding me? You're not going to secure a border. We
got a front door to this country, in a back
door to this country, and nobody's locking it. Are you
kidding me? No one is prioritizing the budget. We're thirty
(03:07):
something trillion dollars in debt. Enough, all right. So that
was a movement. Now, unfortunately, the Tea Party was absorbed
by the Republican Party, so it influenced maybe one to
two election cycles before they diffused it and absorbed it
and drained it. They can't absorb and they can't drain
the Maga movement. They've tried. It won't work. Talk to
(03:29):
any never Trumpers anymore. But what if all three have combined?
And what if everything is kumbai ya a seapack because
they have combined. But guess what, there's an expiration date
on Trump. And if you don't make this handoff to
Jdvans or someone else, guess what. Everything you have right
now is a mirage and doesn't exist in a swing
(03:50):
precinct of a swing district in a swing state and
three and a half years from now. And if you
think I'm crazy, careful calling them all because I'm not
afraid to see reality. So the answer to this question
is very It is the answer to the future, at.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Least for the question of what's going to happen in
the next four eight to twelve years. There's no question
about that. Michael, You're on the right stuff. Now, Remember
these three movements have amalgamated, merged together, gone in the
same direction like a river because of a binary choice
in an election, in a national election. And so it's
evidence now you see it. You didn't see it three
(04:30):
weeks before that. You felt it if you were paying attention,
you never would have believed it three years prior. But
this is what happens when we push the whole process
into a binary election now, so the question is going
to be first and foremost as it relates to Trump
and trump Ism. Will the president and his team have
the maturity of leadership to in about eighteen months begin
(04:56):
to set the.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
Scales toward the next election.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
That's critical, and it's got to be open, it's got
to be transparent, it's got to be real.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
The reason that George W.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Bush became the president in the last open seed election
that we actually have the last one, but when he
was facing an open seat election, the reason it was
because the leadership of the Republican Party got together, selected
a candidate behind closed doors, and then unified behind that
person to avoid dangerous, expensive and confusing primaries.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
So it depends on how will they transhich.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Is why we said Barack Obama to step and A
Smith's point is the last one who really ran and
won without being ordained or meddled with the voters, he
singlely won it because they meddled with Well and Donald Trump.
But they meddled to create Hillary Clinton, they meddled to
create Joe Biden. They meddled with Joe Biden to create
(05:47):
Kamala Harris, and then before that W was a meddling
by the party. It's been a while only Barack Obama ran, seized,
achieved and was selected. But I will to give people
some hope. Say this not Republicans sixty two percent a
(06:08):
proof of deportation. Eighty one percent of Americans support deportation
if the illegal goes on to commit other felonies. Seventy
six percent support DOGE, sixty nine percent support restricting biological
males from competing against women, sixty eight percent support the
two genders, sixty three percent the freezing of USAID. So
(06:29):
this is an American movement. So you can almost say
this is not just a rigan revolution within the Republican Party,
a tea party movement within the Republican Party, or a
mega movement within the Republican Party.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
It's becoming an American movement.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
And that's why you see the erosion of youth vote,
the erosion of Hispanic vote, Asian vote, black mail vote.
This is a big problem for the Democrat. It's a
bigger problem for the Democrat, But don't be shocked if
they overcome it.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
And how these three groups that we talked about came
to the conclusion that Trump was their choice after living.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
For years with a nearly dead president. This will not
be the circumstance coming forward.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
So these things change if and the simple answer to
your question is what would hold those three groups together?
And this is the immediate question, what will hold those
three groups together? I would like to say a little humility,
but I don't see that happening from anybody at the
top tier in the Trump world.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
So I think transparency and honesty is the king.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Compared to compared to honest, compared to what this because
you're not going to see this by the way I'm
holding up my foot. Washn't get but no, but I
do see a difference. Donald Trump isn't making this all
about him this time. Now Doge is about Elon Musk. Now,
the FBI is about Cash Patel and now Dan Bongino.
The Justice Department is about Pambody. He has spread this.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
To where the productivity over personality is going to be very,
very helpful.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Because then even after he's gone, that's powerful.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
Then we've got to have that transition. So it's a
doable task.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
And I saw the questions can these people say together
the yeah, I think they can if they think that
they're moving in the right direction, and they still believe
that there's hope that somebody's listening and trying to do
the right thing. They don't have to succeed at one
hundred percent. I'm not even sure what the percentage is
they have to succeed. They just have to be seen
as honestly trying no matter what and being transparent.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
That's the key, That's what people are looking for.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
And I'm not in the room, but I can read
the room by way of actions, and it looks like
the Republicans are at the white board.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
I don't even know what board the Democrats are at.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Miss a little, miss a lot, miss a lot, and
We'll miss you. It's your Morning Show with Michael del Churno.
Previously on Your Morning Show with Michael del Chno.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Coming out of Sea Pack, we asked the question, has
the Reagan Revolution, the Tea Party movement, and the Maga
Trump is a movement all merged into one singular movement?
And after Donald Trump is gone in four years, who
owns it? Because it may be the single right question
(00:30):
to ask to get the answer to.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Could the Democrats run?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
I mean, I could pick wes Moore and Maryland, but
could they run somebody in twenty eight and get the
White House right back? The answer depends on the answer
to this question of the day, and the right person
answered is David Sanati. He is the CEO of the
American Policy Roundtable, presides over I voters. I believe the
Crown Jewel to be the Public Square heard on two
hundred stations and online any time, Public Square dot com.
(01:02):
I'm exhausted, and he is our senior contributor. David, what
is the answer to that question? Has the Reagan Revolution,
Tea Party Movement, and Mega movement all merged into one
singular thing?
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Well, first off, it's a great question, and it is
the question, and it's one that begs at least half
a dozen more which I hope today tomorrow we'll get
our chance to talk about with some of these really
good stories.
Speaker 5 (01:26):
And of course my head is twitching. I'm already out
of joint.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
I got to go for the advert because you said
the word movement three times and started by saying seapac
to start with, because.
Speaker 5 (01:37):
It really does beg the question what is a conservative?
Speaker 2 (01:40):
That's something by the way you pursued an answer for
you'll have to share that journey with but.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
We'll get there.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
Yeah, I've been I've been asking that.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Question for forty five years. So the question is the
merging of minds and constituencies.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
And let's go back to this.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
If what you're doing is the same thing that the
major can vaulting firms have done for years and on
occasion for a great amount of money, of taught people
how to do. In the old days, they would use
a whiteboard I'm sure it's more sophisticated today, and they
would create a universe of voters. You just put on
the universe three different flows of people.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
The goal of the of.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
The exercise is at the end to get to fifty
percent plus one and win a national election.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Well let me let me just interrupt and say if
the Reagan Revolution, which has an age ceiling, that's right, right,
because i am the young end of the Reagan Revolution
and I'm sixty, so I'm virtually demographically irrelevant, but I'm
alive and I'm influential, and I'm on the scene to
contribute to that fifty one percent. The key Party movement
(02:45):
was natural, not financially created, not led by anyone. It
naturally was an organic movement. Are you kidding me? This
is what you're doing with our tax dollars? Are you
kidding me? You're not going to secure a border. We
got a front door to this country, in a back
door to this country, and nobody's locking it. Are you
kidding me? No one is prioritizing the budget. We're thirty
(03:07):
something trillion dollars in debt. Enough, all right. So that
was a movement. Now, unfortunately, the Tea Party was absorbed
by the Republican Party, so it influenced maybe one to
two election cycles before they diffused it and absorbed it
and drained it. They can't absorb and they can't drain
the Maga movement. They've tried. It won't work. Talk to
(03:29):
any never Trumpers anymore. But what if all three have combined?
And what if everything is kumbai ya a seapack because
they have combined. But guess what, there's an expiration date
on Trump. And if you don't make this handoff to
Jdvans or someone else, guess what. Everything you have right
now is a mirage and doesn't exist in a swing
(03:50):
precinct of a swing district in a swing state and
three and a half years from now. And if you
think I'm crazy, careful calling them all because I'm not
afraid to see reality. So the answer to this question
is very It is the answer to the future, at.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Least for the question of what's going to happen in
the next four eight to twelve years. There's no question
about that. Michael, You're on the right stuff. Now, Remember
these three movements have amalgamated, merged together, gone in the
same direction like a river because of a binary choice
in an election, in a national election. And so it's
evidence now you see it. You didn't see it three
(04:30):
weeks before that. You felt it if you were paying attention,
you never would have believed it three years prior. But
this is what happens when we push the whole process
into a binary election now, so the question is going
to be first and foremost as it relates to Trump
and trump Ism. Will the president and his team have
the maturity of leadership to in about eighteen months begin
(04:56):
to set the.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
Scales toward the next election.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
That's critical, and it's got to be open, it's got
to be transparent, it's got to be real.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
The reason that George W.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Bush became the president in the last open seed election
that we actually have the last one, but when he
was facing an open seat election, the reason it was
because the leadership of the Republican Party got together, selected
a candidate behind closed doors, and then unified behind that
person to avoid dangerous, expensive and confusing primaries.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
So it depends on how will they transhich.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Is why we said Barack Obama to step and A
Smith's point is the last one who really ran and
won without being ordained or meddled with the voters, he
singlely won it because they meddled with Well and Donald Trump.
But they meddled to create Hillary Clinton, they meddled to
create Joe Biden. They meddled with Joe Biden to create
(05:47):
Kamala Harris, and then before that W was a meddling
by the party. It's been a while only Barack Obama ran, seized,
achieved and was selected. But I will to give people
some hope. Say this not Republicans sixty two percent a
(06:08):
proof of deportation. Eighty one percent of Americans support deportation
if the illegal goes on to commit other felonies. Seventy
six percent support DOGE, sixty nine percent support restricting biological
males from competing against women, sixty eight percent support the
two genders, sixty three percent the freezing of USAID. So
(06:29):
this is an American movement. So you can almost say
this is not just a rigan revolution within the Republican Party,
a tea party movement within the Republican Party, or a
mega movement within the Republican Party.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
It's becoming an American movement.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
And that's why you see the erosion of youth vote,
the erosion of Hispanic vote, Asian vote, black mail vote.
This is a big problem for the Democrat. It's a
bigger problem for the Democrat, But don't be shocked if
they overcome it.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
And how these three groups that we talked about came
to the conclusion that Trump was their choice after living.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
For years with a nearly dead president. This will not
be the circumstance coming forward.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
So these things change if and the simple answer to
your question is what would hold those three groups together?
And this is the immediate question, what will hold those
three groups together? I would like to say a little humility,
but I don't see that happening from anybody at the
top tier in the Trump world.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
So I think transparency and honesty is the king.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Compared to compared to honest, compared to what this because
you're not going to see this by the way I'm
holding up my foot. Washn't get but no, but I
do see a difference. Donald Trump isn't making this all
about him this time. Now Doge is about Elon Musk. Now,
the FBI is about Cash Patel and now Dan Bongino.
The Justice Department is about Pambody. He has spread this.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
To where the productivity over personality is going to be very,
very helpful.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Because then even after he's gone, that's powerful.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
Then we've got to have that transition. So it's a
doable task.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
And I saw the questions can these people say together
the yeah, I think they can if they think that
they're moving in the right direction, and they still believe
that there's hope that somebody's listening and trying to do
the right thing. They don't have to succeed at one
hundred percent. I'm not even sure what the percentage is
they have to succeed. They just have to be seen
as honestly trying no matter what and being transparent.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
That's the key, That's what people are looking for.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
And I'm not in the room, but I can read
the room by way of actions, and it looks like
the Republicans are at the white board.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
I don't even know what board the Democrats are at.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Miss a little, miss a lot, miss a lot, and
We'll miss you. It's your Morning Show with Michael del Churno.
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