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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Previously on your Morning Show with Michael dil Jono.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I I loved your dad, You know, I I cried
three times as a kid. Roberto Clementi died and I
remember crying in my bedroom. Your father died, I remember
crying in my bedroom, and then my grandfather died. I
remember crying for weeks. That had a huge effect on
a lot of us. How hard is it to grow
up following that? Because I will admit as a huge
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fan of yours, it started because oh my gosh, that's
that's his son. I got to see his face. I
got to see if he looks like him. I got
to see if he sounds like him. And yet you're
so different than your dad and in some ways so alike.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Is it helped you or hurt you both? I think
I think I think it's hurt and helped. I think
that initially people wanted to give give me a listen,
But I think being a relative of a famous person
just quite honestly, it is challenging because as soon as
someone knows that you're related to someone well known, they
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cannot think of you as an individual. You are no
longer an individual. You are now just the connection to
something greater or someone more famous, and it is very
strange psychologically, and so growing up with it's it's very curious,
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and you know, you try and understand it, but there's
no understanding it. You know. I'm in my fifties now,
I still don't get it, you know. But of course
I understand the attachment to music and art, and I
understand the attachment to to the way a song can
make you feel, and artists can make you feel about
yourself and about the time and place that you live
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in or remember the music. You know, music is about
about nostalgia, about memories, about emotion, and it's all pretty
you know, relevant to our daily life. So when we
hear something that it sparks all these emotions.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
So if you weren't to crochy, son, I would just
hear time and move on. I think of time and
a bottle, and right away I'm thinking of how that
song was written for you by your father. Let me
ask it this way, a Jane. That's the last thing
I'll do, because I don't want to perpetuate what I
feel like has been undeserving for you. But had your
dad lived, how different would your music be? Is that
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a fair question?
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Yeah? It's a very fair question. And you know, of course,
there's no way to know, truly, no way to know.
I mean, this is a calling for me. I didn't
do it because of my father. I did it because,
you know, I'm a fit generation musician. My great grandfather
was an opera singer. My grandfather on my mother's side
and grandmother were musicians. My grandmother had had a television
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show in Philadelphia in the forties, So it is a
family kind of legacy in a way. And I think,
quite honestly, I would have played with him. There's no
doubt in my mind we would have played music together.
You know. The there was a I was archiving, you know,
my father's music about twenty years ago, twenty five years ago,
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and and I found this one particular cassette. It was
him practicing the songs he was going to perform that
Friday or Saturday when he when he played it, played
a concert or show. And this is before he made
a living playing music. You know, He's trying to do
it on the weekends and as much as he could.
And it was it was really eerie because every single
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song on this and these are really obscure artists and
even more obscure songs that he was singing and playing,
and I had been playing these songs since I was
thirteen or fourteen. It was it was, you know, fast swaller.
It wasn't a misbehavior or honeysuckle Rose. It was You're
not the only oyster in the stew. It was deep
cuts for Bessie Smith, Pink Anderson. I realized I was
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just gonna say, let me turn the table on you.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
How AJ crochey of your father.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Exactly?
Speaker 2 (04:06):
But you know, but my dad was often gone when
I was growing up, and then later we got paired
to do a morning show together. So this man is
virtually a stranger to me. And now I'm more of
a I happen to be a son, but I'm his
friend and a co host with him. We start hanging
out and I'm watching him do all the things I
do when I'm alone, like changing the words to songs,
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making them kind of naughty, you know that funny, yeah, dude,
And I'm like, oh my gosh, the genetics. And I
look at you AJ, and you know, I see your father,
but I must see your mother too, because you're not
completely your dad.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
I'm a lot older than my father all, well.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
You don't look at though. I think he looked older
at thirty. But in sounds, you know, I think of
all the people you've collaborated with. One of my favorites
that not everybody talks about every day, doctor John I
mean a hero of mine. I'm from New Orleans, but
but I mean, look, Leon Russell Ray, Charles, Willie Nelson.
I mean, these are all people that influence you. I
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often talk about influences because whether people realize it or not,
you can't hear me every day on the radio. My
dad's in there, Larry lu Jack's in there. I can
tell you, Mike mccannon is in there. Jonathan Brandmeyer might
be on a bad day there. But I did a
hero show one week where I brought all these heroes,
Dave Baum and others. And because they they didn't make
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it's not me imitating them. They influenced me. So there's
a little bit of Johnny Carson, but it doesn't come
out as Johnny Carson. These people all influenced you, and
they including your father, by going through his music after
and it created something so uniquely you, which I can't
tell you. I loved your dad so much, but I
love you just as much, completely differently.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
It is such an interesting thing how we develop our
personalities as individuals, you know, you see I see it
all the time with people siblings, how each one of
them finds their own unique way. There's you know, they
may have some similarities, they were raised, maybe in the
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same house, but they had a different interpretation of what
was going on. And I think that what you described
is exactly the way that I the way that I
feel about it. We stand on the shoulders of giants,
you know, and how we choose to use those influences
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is really only limited by our creativity.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
And may I add they were all influenced by the
generation before them.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
You know.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Have you asked the Beatles who influenced them? The names
would shock you. We're talking. We're talking with AJ Crochy
his new album Heart of the Eternal, which I want
to ask you about. And then of course the tour
I know for we're on seventy two markets, but I
know you're going to be here in Nashville, I know
you're going to be in Phoenix and a lot of
those cities. I encourage people to find the list and
catch Aj and cons. I've always kind of likened it.
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If somebody turned this on me and said, all right,
describe why you love aj so much? Well, the ar
Scott truth is it's Jim Crochey's son, and I love
Jim all right. And if you lived nineteen seventy three,
that was a title wave. That was a tsunami out
of nowhere that no one saw coming. The number of
hits in one year, it begs the question how many
more would they have been? What did we lose when
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that plane went down? So he could keep his word
to those universities. Your father was amazing, but so are
you and completely different. And it kind of reminds me
of my love for Lyle love it And I don't
know how to describe a Lyle love it is. I
can't call him country, I can't call him big band,
I can't call him anything. What would you want us
to call you? And what for those of us that
do follow you and love you, heart of the eternal,
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Take us in your life journey as well as musical journey.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Well, there's a few questions in there. I don't know
where to start, but I will say that I don't
think music needs categories. I think it's good music. Or
it's not. I don't think it needs to be in
a box. I think you you you dig it or
you don't. It's that simple. And and when it comes
to this album, you know it. It has a lot
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of different influences, you know I have, Uh, there's rock
and roll influences, There's there's blues, jazz influences. There's a
lot of soul influences, you know my I I've described
my music as soul music because because it's where it
comes from. It's not about, uh, you know where I
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come from. It's where the it's where the heart of
it is. And and so I feel like I feel like,
if you have to describe it, that's what I'd say.
You know, there's elements of all Americana in their early
rock and roll and jazz and blues and and uh
even some country and and certainly the traditions of folk
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blues and all of that. It's it's all rolled into
what I do.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
What do you think? I'm thinking of probably Doctor John,
but a lot of other the bb Kings and the
others you play with. How might they respond to this album?
What would they hear differently in it?
Speaker 3 (09:14):
It's tough to say. You know, I think Bibe would
have dug it. You know, he was a guy that
really looked was looking for new music all the time,
and he was looking at even though he was who
he was, and he understood that his audience wanted him
to be, you know, the way that they imagine him,
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the kind of the myth of who he is. He loved,
he loved young artists. He was a supporter of a
myriad of young artists who he saw talented. And I
was eighteen when I went on the road with him,
and I wasn't fully developed as an artist as far
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as as far as the things that I was drawn from.
I hadn't completely gelled at eighteen years old into who
I would become as an artist. But I think he
saw something in there. And certainly my piano playing at
that age was was stronger than maybe my songwriting or singing.
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It just depends on your perspective, but that was what
I was first got hired for.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Was being a piano you know, virtuoso. I mean literally,
how much did your life I don't want to bring
up a lot of the of the dysfunction of what happened.
I mean losing your father, that's one thing. Having an
abusive stepfather is another. Losing your eyesight is another. I
often say we're all the sum of the choices we made,
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and then whether we reacted or responded to the circumstances
out of our control. And you had a lot of
circumstances out of your control. I mean, you had bad,
bad cards tell to you, you know, And I'm probably
still starting out reaction versus responds. But how much has
that influenced your music too immensely?
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Yeah, I mean it's the foundation of how we how
we view humanity. It's how I mean, that's what we're
writing about. We're trying to write about a universal ideally,
a universal topic, a story that is relatable and and
how can we simplify it in a fashion that is universal,
that that allows people from around the world to listen
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to that, to interpret it and and recognize that in
themselves or in the world around them.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
AJ Croche the son of Jim Crochy. His latest effort
is Heart of the Eternal. He's on that tour as
we speak. It'll be coming to Nashville, to Phoenix, many
other cities. You can learn more by going to aj
crochmusic dot com. Do you do some of your dad songs.
And I know the answer to this, but I'll ask
it like I do, of course, and what goes? I mean,
what do you feel when you're doing it?
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Oh? Man, I feel a lot. I feel a sense
of pride, feel a sense of obligation. I feel the
sense of wanting to entertain the audience. I want to
play what they came for now. I didn't do this
my entire career. I had and I really had a
full career before I ever played one of my father's songs.
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And it was, you know, it was in I guess
you know, five years ago I started throwing some of
the songs into the show, and I started experimenting with
the concept of what Croachy plays Croachy would be, and
and then toured that for two and a half years,
almost three years, and in the process became a better
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guitar player, became a better songwriter, became a better performer,
and and a lot more confident person because I had
avoided this thing in my life. It was the elephant
in the room, and all of a sudden, it's it's
the lights on, and and it's it's kind of an
amazing experience.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
I can't remember how long ago was Aj? Maybe two
decades ago, maybe longer. I saw Aj Croach and I'm like,
it's got to be, it's gotta be. Then I saw
you were the son of Jim Crochy. Naturally, I mean
it was just an instinct. I literally remember crying in
nineteen seventy three in my bedroom when your father died. Naturally,
that's what drewmany to you. Like you were talking about
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there's pros and cons. That was the problem in that journey.
Now I've come to love a lot more of your
music because you've been able to produce a lot more.
I encourage my audience to hear Aj Crochy. He has
a voice, he has a heart, he has a life experience,
he is a virtuoso musician, and he's got a lot
to say in his music. It's different than his dad's,
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and in some ways it's better. It's really really good stuff.
And if he comes to your town, you owe it
to yourself to see him in concert and check this out.
I think your dad would be very very proud of you.
I know I am, and I love your music. I
love the uniqueness of all this and what it's created.
And just as I've often thought of if you ever
took like twelve of your well eight of your dad's hits,
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added four more that you think people would have loved
to have noticed more and bring your unique style and
take to that. That would be a great project and people
would probably elevate to it. But I hesitate to say
that because I want them to know you. You're worth
knowing and there's a lot of your dad in you,
and it's really good stuff.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Well, thank you, man, I really appreciate it. That's very kind.
And you never know, I never say never. I think
that those songs are elevated in every live performance. I
love playing the deeper cuts, as you know. And of
course I know people come to hear the hits now
more than ever because because we just finished that tour
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just you know, six months ago or less, and people
are really interested. But I got to say I was
blown away last night. People were requesting songs from the
new album and I haven't I haven't had that happen
in some time where people were engaged with something on
this level of something I was that was new, and
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I think I have my father to thank for that,
his music and the tour that I was just on
because I'm able through that to reach a larger audience,
and of course touring these amazing theaters all over the
country in town Hall and New York and going back
to these like the Ryman. You mentioned it in that grill.
You know, you know I wouldn't have sold those places
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out before playing Croachy places Croachy, But now now I can,
you know, And and it's it's I have him to think.
And so when you ask, there's pluses and minuses. The
expectations are unreachable because because there's someone else's and I
and I don't even know if they know what their
expectations are. Fully, when when they come looking for my
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father's music, when they come looking for my music and
looking for me, once they've seen me, I think they
are they are a fan. I think once they see me,
they see something that is Uh pays tribute to his legacy,
but also is UH is forging forging one of my own.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Yeah, And as much as I love this album, I
look forward to the next sound, or the next influence
or the next message. It's coming after it aj Crochy
Heart of the Eternal Tour coming to a city near
You find out when at ajcroachymusic dot com and download
the music everywhere great music is downloaded. AJ Crochy, You're
lucky I haven't found you. I would have made you
be my friend. I love you, my brother. Continued success
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and great job on this this album. It's really good work.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Take care, miss a little, miss a lot, miss a lot,
and we'll miss you. It's your morning show with Michael
del Churno