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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Previously on Your Morning Show with Michael dil Chuno roy o'neils.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Here the thirty day seasfire between Russian and Ukraine, isn't
it on the horizon? Well, the Ukrainian peace is off
to a good start, but Rory the heavy lifting the
Russian side.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
We knew that from the beginning, right, well, right, And
Steve Whitkoff, the President's point man on this, arrived in
Moscow a short time ago. Where getting some indications from
Moscow they're not going to be going to be on
board with this without an awful lot of concessions. They
want assurances that Ukraine won't be joining NATO, that there
won't be NATO forces on the ground in Ukraine trying
(00:36):
to keep the peace afterwards. And this is just for
a thirty day ceasefire. It seems that there will be
a lot of big asks from Moscow. We'll see what happens.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Those sound reasonable, Those sound like a reset to me. Obviously,
they didn't want Ukraine in NATO. There was no indication
Ukraine was ever going to be in NATO until there
was a political verbal volley. It gave that implication. So
I don't know that that's not something both sides are
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willing to grant. I don't know that anybody feels the
need to have Ukrainian forces or sources on the ground
inside Russia. They just want to keep them out, and
they got their assurance. The Americans going to back and
hold putin to his I guess what I'm getting at
is as you described that, I think it's doable well,
but this is just for a sea spire, you know.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
I think what you bring up may be part of
a broader piece that you know, yeah, like longer term,
but just to get to this thirty days, Russia may
want a lot of big assurances. I mean, look, I
mean to have the NATO question on the thirty day
seaspire is pretty ridiculous. There's no way Ukraine is getting
into NATO in the next month. So, you know, things
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like that that are almost distractions at this point. But
there is also the financial side of this. You know,
when do you lift sanctions on Russia? When do you
unfreeze those assets that have been taken on all around
the world. Those are some of the things also in
the mix. Again, just for a thirty day ceasefire, not
a broader piece. You know, it's often been compared to
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in our final minute. It's often been compared to a
mediator being involved in a very contentious divorce. So clearly
both parties hate each other. Clearly both parties could never
on their own solve this. Ultimately, what allows it to
break through somebody identifying just enough from each side to
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find a middle ground. But really buried under that is
you really want to be divorced? You know, that's the
ultimate question. Do they do both sides really want this over?
And the assurance it would stay over.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
I know that's the case for Ukraine if you can
give him assurance that you won't allow him to change
his mind and reinvade. You know what we don't know
is does Russia really think this is a winnable war
or are they ready for it to be over? That's
what I think is underlining all of.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
This right well, right, look, you know Russia can't sustain
this much more either in terms of they're bringing in
North Korean troops in order to fight this war. Their
army has been so depleted. And you know whether or
not now you get more US and NATO forces involved,
and whether or not it's no longer a proxy war,
I think is the broader question, more direct conflict.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
That's the bullseye. Everybody should be rooting for this ceasefire
becoming a permanent peace plan because the way it's escalating
is towards world war and I don't think anybody wants
to go to World War over this. Rory has always
great reporting. We'll talk again tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
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