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March 21, 2025 33 mins

NCAA Brackets and 2028 Presidential brackets

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
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Speaker 3 (00:27):
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This is your morning show with Michael O'Dell chahun.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
Just a tad blasphemus. I might add to have a
screaming Cleveland rock and roll disc jockey added that is
Murray Saal, the Rangers, Hall Harvey.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
If you can't choose.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
By the way, a little running inside joke around here.
Does Red ever sleep?

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Yeah? I don't think he does, because.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
He works all day and then he does show prep
all night, and then this morning he didn't arrive until
one minute and ten seconds ago. I thought, well, maybe
this was finally the day. Yeah, his ohs are always bloodshot.
I am thoroughly convinced that red Our producer has only
slept twice, once when he was filling out his NCAA
bracket cute the music, and the other last night when

(01:21):
he showed up late for the show this morning. Get
as you know, I'm doing the Steph Curry shitty. Well,
I got a little too cute last night, did you Yeah?
I took a you know, I had McNee State over Clemson.
That was my I always do red nose this. I
always do one twelve over five every year, and the

(01:42):
boy I get. I happened to catch McNee State on
television twice, and I can tell you they play a
very disruptive, bland brand of defensive basketball and they moved
the ball amazing and score and so Clemson.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
And just looked right for the picking to me, And
boy was I right.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
McNee State had about a twenty point lead at one point,
it got.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
To be a squeaker where they hung on by two.

Speaker 4 (02:08):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
But my bracket remained perfect with that McNee State update.
Didn't expect any surprises with Purduer Houston and didn't get it.
A lot of people struggled with Georgia and Gonzaga. I
had Gonzaga all the way and it was an easy
whin Georgia does Georgia things in the NCAA tournament where
I got too cute, you toss State over UCLA and

(02:31):
I was wrong by forty five points.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
That's my is.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
Jim and answer would say, the only blemish on my card.
You picked Drake over Missouri. I had Drake over Missouri.
I had a perfect I was gonna start with a
news conference today because I thought I was gonna wake
up with a perfect card. And at halftime, you know,
you tossed State kind of came back a little bit
before the half, and I was I just I turned
to my son, I put my cepap on and I said, well,

(03:01):
maybe I'll wake up and be surprised. Cocky still have
a perfect bracket. No, got too cute with that one.
The rest I got right though. Tennessee easy went over Wolford,
Kentucky place today.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Sorry, I didn't mean to do that. B Yu by nine.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
They can rain them down, boy, they can shoot some threes,
and I had them over VCU Wisconsin. Very easy went
over Montana. I know that hurts red. Is that part
of why you hit the bourbon and overslept today? Did
you have Arkansas too? Did you pick Arkansas? Yes, Nick,
and I got a chance to the Arkansas person at

(03:36):
the SEC Tournament.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
I can tell you what when I did it.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
I looked at Nick and I said, now, if they
go through one of their eleven minute droughts, I'm gonna
strangle somebody. And sure enough they had about a ten
minute drought. But then they came back and they won.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
That gave me. I had that one.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
Texas Tech went easy. I had dracover Missouri sixty seven
fifty seven. Saint John's really pulled away eighty three fifty three,
winning by thirty over Oh. I had Arkansas over Kansas
nine seventy two. Really hate seeing Bill self, a good
friend and a terrific man, go home early. But I
saw that one coming Michigan. I was shocked. How close

(04:17):
with UC San Diego. I think, I think, to the
Squeaker Gallion Hill, to the squeaker Bow, we'll tank it.
What a matchup that's going to be. And I think
the Twin Towers could be disruptive for Michigan, and they're
going to need to be and get a lot of
inside scoring and rebounds. They got a tough matchup with
Texas A, and I'm coming up in the next round

(04:38):
to get to the Sweet sixteen.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
Create in eighty nine to seventy five over Louisville.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
I had Creighton. I'm surprised how many people had Louisville.
Who bit that bullet? Well, you kind of go with tradition.
You think Louisville's always going to be that team every year.
I think that's why people pick them. You know, if
Creighton was playing anybody but Auburn next, I'd say, there's
your Cinderella headed to the Sweet sixteen. So those that
of advanced create in Auburn. I think Auburn's gonna have

(05:02):
a breezy time. I think that Michigan, Texas A and
M game is going to be one for the ages.
I don't think Arkansas can stay even close to Saint
John's Drake and Texas A and M. It's early to say,
but I think Drake may be the Cinderella and their ability.
They look terrible doing it. You ever see a guy

(05:24):
that looks like an unmade bed in a suit, I
mean you even dress him up and they can't look good.
That's kind of how Drake plays. I mean, they look
completely out of control. But they just fumble and stumble
their way to victory. They may be the Cinderella. B.
Why you Wisconsin could be a good one. B. Why
you reigning down the threes? Wisconsin should come out of
that alive. We talked about Tennessee. Tennessee and Michigan State

(05:48):
really got two of the best placements. I mean, they
might as well just taken Tennessee and put them right
in the Elite eight. They deserve it, that's how easy
the road they have is. But they could lose to UCLA.
I would be smelling a stinker there. Although I have
to root for Tennessee, you don't want to miss anybody
in the Sweet sixteen. I think the Cinderella story for
McNeese can't get past Purdue, UH and Gonzaga will never

(06:12):
survive Houston. So I think Drake is our last chance
for a Cinderella. And I told you I didn't think
this was a year we're gonna have any Cinderellas. But
I had all number ones in the final four. Yeah,
I'm glad you played Big John sound effect. Play him again.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Book.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
He mocked me yesterday. Well, hey, saying share all your
picked So I.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
Know how to.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
If you'd have followed my picks, you'd be rich today.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Bang dangus Bang is right.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
Now as much fun as you're having with your NCAA
March Madness brackets.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
Guess what CNN released yesterday? What's that? I felt like
Johnny when I did that. Well, guess what's hann released? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (06:50):
Yeah, they came out with her twenty twenty presidential bracket. Yes,
talk about it. I guess that's kind of cute to
play on the March Madness. But the sea is awful.
Like Kamala, Harris is not a number one seed. Jd
Vance is the number one seed on the Republican side. Uh.
They've got Ron de Santis a sixth seed. I probably

(07:11):
have him more of a fourth. They have Glenn Young
Young Young Young Cain the two seed. I don't agree
with that. I think Marco Rubio is the two seed,
but by and large their seeds are okay.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
Who's in the playing game.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
The Word Salad Playing game sponsored?

Speaker 2 (07:29):
Bye? I did I filled out my bracket?

Speaker 1 (07:32):
I have my final four, which, by the way, I
got this from David Zanati and this this is hard
for him. Trust me, I know, I know his competitive nature.
He sends me the story wes Moore's departing from the

(07:55):
board of directors of Green Thumb Industries a clear sign,
and David writes, looks like you're right again. Wes Moore
is the next to Obama, but he does have a
sketchy narrative about his birthplace in schooling and has given
an education free ride to the top. I told you guys,
this was coming so naturally. My final four has wes

(08:17):
Moore from by the way, he's a five seed over
at twelve. I have Kamala Harris over Tim Walls advancing,
AOC advancing, and then I have AOC defeat AOC makes
it to the sweet sixteen with an easy placement as
wes Moore does. They have Rommy Manuel eleven seed. I

(08:42):
guarantee you Rommy Manuel is the two seed. There's a
Cinderella story waiting to happen.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
Then I picked Stephen A over Newsome in an upset.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
You know what that was the one I actually am
playing the game. I stopped and I went pondered for seconds,
and now I think, kad it would take him. I wouldn't.
The wouldnt be placed that way because Steven A. Smith
is by the way Frankly, steven A Smith right now
is the four seed, not the thirteenth seed as they
have them, so they wouldn't have matched up that early.
But I have a Newsome coming out of that and

(09:12):
then losing to Wes Moore, Rodney Manuel beating Bootage to
advance the Sweet sixteen, and I have Shapiro easy over
Pritzker to get to the sweet sixteen. Now, the Sweet
sixteen is an interesting matchup AOC that would be Now
remember this would be closer than you think.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
Pritzker over Fetterman.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Yeah, he's no Fetterman King. Come on, Fetterman, we're talking primary.
You can't run for president and a hoodie. It's very disruptive.
It may happen, It may happen. Bolt Man, you know.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
What No, I was talking about that upsets everywhere? Do
you know what I was talking about? An unmade bed?
There you go. We don't even know, but we.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
Assume Fetterman would be an unmade bed in a suit
if you wore it. So then I have the what
I do, the Democrat bracket. I have Wes Moore, and
this will not be easy because remember if AOC is
the only one towards the end, one of the last
four that is of that justice Democrat, socialist, extreme left.
She's going to have thirty three percent of the vote

(10:14):
just built in. So AOC people got to get used
to this. Take a deep breath, because I know a
lot of people think I'm crazy. AOC is the new
Bernie Sanders. So she's going to be there. She might
get the nomination, but she's going to be there. I
know that sounds crazy to people, but we're talking about
a crazy party that's burning things.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
Well.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
Yeah, so I have wes Moore as only the only
person who could beat her, frankly getting to the final four,
and then I've got Romney Manuel beating Ben Shapiro, and
then I think the two will unite and that's your ticket.
I think it's going to be wes Moore and Romney Manuel.
I don't know which one's going to be the top,
which one's going to be the bottom. May depend how

(10:57):
they play early. It could very well be Romney Mann
and wes Moore. And that makes sense that they're not
going to try to unite the party with the other
side of the party they're at war with. That would
leave to this is the natural ticket for them so
terrible seeding that forces me to get rid of Ben
Shapiro early and probably mayor Pete early. That that isn't

(11:18):
how to play out in real life, but it's funny.
And playing this stupid game that Red sends me. I
end up with, are you ready for this? We have
to have a drum roll somewhere, right. Why don't I
always do it that way old school? You can always
throw it at me a last second there, But yeah,
we've got the well, I got.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
One of these there.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
I have Vice President Vance and former Florida Governor by
then DeSantis as the ticket for the Republicans against Wes.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
Moore and Rodney Manuel.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
But I'm entering that as a quindella because I don't
know the exacta who's going to be on top, and
that may be it quite frankly, but it's the way
they did this seating. You know, I have to have
Marco Rubio goes through Sanders and then DeSantis is where
I actually think it's going to be Vance and Rubio,

(12:12):
but you know, we'll see what happens. But playing the
stupid little game in the spirit of March madness on
the second day of Spring, I come up with a
Vance DeSantis ticket in twenty twenty eight, going against Romney
Manuel and Wes Moore.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
What do you make of that?

Speaker 1 (12:29):
That's our basketball for real, and our basketball of Dems.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
And Republicans brackets.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Early this morning, nineteen minutes after the hour, did I
mention it's Friday.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
It's your morning show with Michael Delchno.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
Watching March Madness. Yesterday we had a great loaf of
bread from Public's, the grocery store here, and we had.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
Grilled cheese sandwiches and tomatoes soup.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
Oh, it was wonder Oh my gosh, that's a throw
but it was a great one too. Yeah, slices of
American with a little bit of Swiss in between. It's
a real butterer on the outside. Nothing like the alphabet soup.
Mike mccang just rift there. Where did this week go?
Where's this year going? It's almost April. It's Friday, the
twenty first of March. If you're just waking up, these

(13:20):
are your top five stories of the day. President Trump
wants the Department of Education eliminated.

Speaker 5 (13:25):
During the signing of an executive order aimed at dismantling
the department, Trump said everyone knows it's the right thing
to do. After looking at test scores of US children after.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
Forty five years, the United States spends more money on
education by far than any other.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
Country, yet we ranked near.

Speaker 6 (13:43):
The bottom of the list in terms of success.

Speaker 5 (13:46):
Trump says it's time to see education authority be returned
to individual states.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
I'm Brian Shuck.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
An American who was imprisoned in Afghanistan for over two years,
is now free.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
Mark Mayfield reports.

Speaker 6 (13:59):
Secretary of Marco Rubio says sixty six year old George
Glesman was sent free after weeks of negotiations between the
US and Cutter. Glesman, a Delta Airlines mechanic, was held
captive buying the Taliban after the group retook control of Afghanistan.
Rubio thanked Cutter for helping to secure his release.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
Bym Mark Mayfield, Tesla owners are expressing concerns after discovering
an online map with a Malatov cocktail image as a
cursor sharing their personal information, including their home address.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
Lisa Taylor has the details.

Speaker 4 (14:30):
This comes as activists against CEO Elon musk Or vandalizing
Tesla's across the country. Earlier this month, President Trump had
a message for anyone who targeted Tesla.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
You do it to Tesla, and you do it to
any company, We're going to catch you and you're gonna
go through hell.

Speaker 4 (14:45):
Launched on Monday, the map list the names and details
of Tesla owners, dealerships, and Trump administration members. Beside encourages vandalism,
suggesting people spray paint Teslas to unleash their artistic flair.
Must condemn the website on x, calling the promotion of
vandalism extreme domestic terrorism.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
Finally, said Taylor, our journey of discovery is going to
look at the violent Left and this is not new behavior.
This was the behavior and the planned insurrection had Biden
not won. You're about to see it play out again.
I fear forecasters are warning those with seasonal allergies.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
Yeah, it's starting.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
Pollen counts are going to be higher than usual across
the United States this year.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Tammy Trichello has the bad news.

Speaker 7 (15:28):
A senior meteorologists at ACU weather said Thursday that pollen
counts will exceed historical averages in thirty nine states as
the warm weather approaches. The experts say those who suffer
from allergies should prepare for an intense allergy season that
could linger into autumn. They say allergy seasons across the
country are lasting one to four weeks longer than they
did fifty years ago because of changing climate conditions.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
I'm Tammy Trihella.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
To the up to Pixar animated film Coco is in production.
Biger announced the upcoming release of Coco two during a
Studio annual shareholder shareholders meeting. I heard Tom Rohaw there
your hoolder meeting. Sounds like I slept over at Red's house.
The film is still in the early stages of development.
It's slated for release in twenty twenty nine. That's twelve

(16:17):
years after the original premiered that I have never seen.

Speaker 7 (16:22):
Hi, this is Jenny Bourne.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
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Speaker 2 (16:32):
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Speaker 1 (16:33):
Your Morning Show airs live five to eight am Central,
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We'd love to be a part of your morning routine,
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a caller call up. Did I refer to Josh Shapiro
as Ben Shapiro? It may have slipped.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
I don't know. There is no report that you did
say Ben Shapiro.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
Obviously, Ben Shapiro is not going to run for president.
He hasn't even gotten his deep voice yet. Josh Shapiro
is obviously what I meant if you're.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
Just waking up.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
The Trump administration is moving forward with plans to dismantle
the Department of Education.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
Israel ground troops are back in Gaza.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
A Georgia man held in Afghanistan for over two years
has been released. And as I mentioned moments ago, NHL
superstar Alex Ovechkin, also known as Ben Shapiro, moves one
goal closer to breaking Wayne Gretzky's all time goal record.
And that's a struggle for me and an end of
an era. All right, thirty six minutes after the hour,
it is the most watched show in the world. Do

(17:37):
you know what it is? It's our spotlight interview of
the week. Jonathan Rumy joined Us Jesus from the Apostle
on the preview of season five in theaters on March
twenty eighth, and we said, good.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
Morning morning, Michael, how are you. I'm doing wonderful. We
pray together a lot on the hollowed app. So I
feel like I.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
Know you know, if we had set out for a
goal and we all have this commission, go forth and
do all nations and make disciples of all men. I
was sitting here thinking before you came on with two
hundred and fifty million viewers and translated I don't know,
six hundred subtitled languages, one hundred dubbed languages.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
We're working forwards six hundred.

Speaker 8 (18:19):
We're translated in one hundred languages currently, but the goal
ultimately is to get to six hundred languages. Who we
are we're currently the most translated television show in history.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
Who who knew a great television show could fulfill the
great commission we're.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
Trying, man.

Speaker 8 (18:36):
You know that's we feel very passionate about that fact,
to spread this story to every corner of the globe.
And we actually know for a fact that early on
the show, when we were just streaming on our own
native app, the show was downloaded in every country on

(18:57):
the planet, including Antarctica. So there's somebody and the weather
station probably hanging out in the snow watching episodes of The.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
Chosen You know, one of the its, it's one of
the great success stories ever. But I mean to think
this is an indie project. I mean, what's the message
that sends to the industry too.

Speaker 8 (19:17):
Let alone the way it's been a lot of folks
over in Hollywood have been quite baffled about how we've
pulled this off and continue to pull it off. But
we've have the greatest fans in the world, and we're
telling the greatest story in the world. So it kind
of makes for you know, an obvious result with with
how it's been received, so kind of a no brainer.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
So what has this done to your life?

Speaker 1 (19:41):
I mean, I know, you know, we we breathe in
faith through our relationship with God, through His living Word,
through transforming and not conforming all those buzzwords and things
we talk about, and then this happens to you. It's
got to be very rewarding from a from a from
a standpoint of living your faith. But it's I mean,

(20:01):
this is an extraordinary amount of fame too, that is
often warned about in the Bible.

Speaker 8 (20:07):
You know, I think the Lord knew what he was
doing in allowing me to struggle for twenty years as
an actor before actually finding true true you know, career
success with this project and then to to be able
to sit down and talk about this role.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
Uh with the widest variety and the.

Speaker 8 (20:33):
The i'd say, the the most interesting gamut of shows
from you know, doing Tucker Carlson one day and then
The View the next day and then Jimmy Fallon just
two days ago. It's been it's been an extraordinary adventure.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
And I'm just uh and now and now and now
your morning show?

Speaker 2 (20:56):
Is it spirals down? All right?

Speaker 1 (20:58):
John?

Speaker 2 (21:00):
Jonathan rusen Man, You're awesome.

Speaker 8 (21:03):
I mean like people need to hear what you're saying
to them and the voice that you provide for them,
and so thank you all part of it.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
So thank you for having me listen. Look, I know
my place in the kingdom. I know, Jonathan Rumy, I
loved you. By the way in Jesus Revolution. Did that
surprise you? What a you know? Because it was such
a sweet empower. I always say this, we've gotten away
from testimonials. I love the old man in the Bible.
They're all bickering and fighting politically and this and that,

(21:31):
and he's like, eh, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
Who he is. All I know is I was blind.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
And now I see we've gotten away from testimonials, and
that was a powerful testimony in the Jesus Revolution at
a time we're on the brink of a cultural shift
and maybe even revival and revolution.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
And your role in that, oh my, you were terrific.
Thank you so much for me.

Speaker 8 (21:54):
That was such a beautiful story and the potency of it.
And I agree with you, Michael. I think we are
on the cusp of another revival, especially in culture and media,
and it's something that I think people have been praying
for and it's really taking shape in so many ways

(22:19):
now where you see other celebrities like that have been
in the secular side of business their entire career, are
now stepping forth in faith and hopefully, you know, this
is something that is just trending upward and more people
will feel compelled to do.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
I mean, it's funny.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
I was just going to say, it's definitely happening. I
have children. I have twenty year old daughters that are
at university sophomore year. I've got a son and graduate
high school. Obviously, I've been born again since the tail
end of the Jesus movement in nineteen seventy eight. My
number one priority was my marriage because I knew that
I can never love my kids more than I love
their mother, and then they were my second priority. Obviously

(23:02):
them having a heart for God and having a personal
relationship with Him was my greatest dream. I did the
best to live an example. I guess I gave some
pretty heady, long Bible studies that a premature, too young
of an age, that bore them stuff. But it didn't
matter what we did. There was just a measure of
faith this young generation's been born with. And it gives

(23:24):
me pause too, because it makes me wonder what God's
preparing for them to live. But I'm noticing there's something
different in this young generation, Jonathan, and I think that's
a lot of what you know. Us older baby boomers
are loving the chosen and we're embracing it, but so
are the young people. For such a time as this does,
this seem to be the right message in vehicle. There's

(23:45):
something bruin, isn't there. That's I mean, that's amazing to
hear and so encouraging. Michael, Thank you for sharing that
with me, And I agree with you.

Speaker 8 (23:53):
You know, I have younger nephews that are teenagers now,
and there's a previous position to faith and to God
that they possessed that even that.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
I didn't even have it at that level.

Speaker 8 (24:06):
And you know, you wonder that when the pendulum swings
so far in one direction for the other way, can
it not ultimately return back to that same that the
original direction.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
And you know, if faith, if faith.

Speaker 8 (24:19):
Was the Jesus Revolution was an example of faith in
one direction in an extreme sense, in in a culture
wide capacity in the seventies, after having swung so far
away from that. Up in the last twenty years now
I think we see this dependulum swinging back the other way.

(24:40):
And I think ultimately, you know, people must return to
God with their whole hearts, because that's that's what's asked
of us as as as a race, as a creation.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
And if the seventies proves anything, it was it was
across denominations. I mean, it was a cultural movement from
the hippie movement became a cultural revolution, then spiritual revival.
My grandmother got saved to the charismatic movement in the
Catholic Church. Then it comes back through me and a
coach by way of Assemblies of God. I mean, it

(25:13):
was a cross denomination. It was cultural leading to a
spiritual revival. I don't know that we've reached spiritual revival,
but boy, it's bubbling and brewing and the role that
you're playing in that. Jonathan Rumy is joining us, and
again we're going to get to the Chosen season five,
but real quickly. Everybody knows you play Jesus. Everybody knows
your work and hollowed in the app the movie Jesus Revolution.

(25:36):
What's your personal walk? How did you get from the
streets in New York to the Kingdom of God.

Speaker 8 (25:41):
Well, I was baptized Greek Orthodox as a baby in
New York City, and then when we moved out to
the suburbs of New York, we, you know, finding a
Greek Orthodox church was difficult, a little difficult.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (25:57):
So my father, being a Christian from Egypt, having gone
to Catholic school as the only option really for Christians
in Egypt, he decided that, you know, there was a
Catholic church just down the street. He was well familiar
with the format of the masses and practicing of the

(26:17):
faith to an extent. My mother from Ireland is Roman Catholics,
so it just seemed like a natural fit. There wasn't
any hemming and hawing or any We didn't have to
go through any kind of conversion. The baptisms are recognized
by the churches, so we just started going to Catholic church.
I made my first communion and my confirmation as a Catholic.

(26:39):
And you know, as I got into my teens and
in my twenties and watched my cousins in the Orthodox
Faith start to get married, and really for me was
kind of a return to the culture of Orthodoxy. As
much as romantic as it is, as beautiful as it is,

(26:59):
as sacred the liturgies are, and as unique as it is,
I never felt God pulling me back to the Orthodox Church.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
I just sort of.

Speaker 8 (27:10):
Felt like, no, I think, I think I'm good, and
I just kind of hung in there. And obviously, once
I left New York to move to LA to pursue
acting full time, the first thing I did was was
find the church. And I think my faith, funny enough,
really started to grow in Los Angeles, where it's not

(27:31):
part of the culture really, you know, like you find it.
The people that go to church are serious about church,
and so I found the community there and my faith
continued to grow, and I started an entertainment ministry. Ultimately
in Beverly Hills, which which ran for about seven years,
and all that time I struggled to work as an

(27:51):
actor until I had to chosen and then things really changed.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
Funny how you get your faith in line, you focus
on God, get everything straight. Then he starts doing the
heavy lifting in life, and now you're a household name.
Jonathan Rumy is Jesus in The Chosen Season five, coming
the Last Supper.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
That's going to get dramatic.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
What I love is we talk about denominations, we talk
about political differences in partisanship. In this story, we avoid
all that. The focus gets on Jesus. From the perspective
of the Apostles, they think they're getting a king. Something
else is brewing. This is a magical season and it
all starts in theaters.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
That's different.

Speaker 8 (28:29):
Yeah, yeah, Well we dare to be different.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
I mean we are.

Speaker 8 (28:32):
One of our phrases is get used to different. It's
something we tend to do pretty well. I think for
us on a practical level, you know, doing releasing theatrically
helps us fund the rest of the series since we
are an independent TV show. But on a cinematic and

(28:55):
an artistic level, the show is meant to be seen
in theaters and first time it'll be it is the
first time it'll be actually screened in Imax as well
at select theaters. So every season we seem to be
able to have this. You know, God grants us the
ability to level up our production values and the cinematic

(29:15):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
I love it because what would be what was necessary
for funding became your uniqueness in a sense. Explain to
them how it works, because you know, what do I do.
I go sit there and I get every episode.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
Of the season.

Speaker 8 (29:26):
So basically March twenty eighth, you have Part one. We
break up season five into three parts. Part one is
episodes the first two episodes March twenty eighth, and then
Part two's episodes three, four, and five, which begins Apri fourth.
If you've missed Part one, they'll still be there, so
you can kind of binge the first two parts, and

(29:48):
then on April eleventh through Easter weekend, we will have
Part three.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
Which is episode six, seven, and eight, And if you.

Speaker 8 (29:56):
Still not seen the first five episodes, you can binge
the entire season of five in theaters over Easter weekend
from starting from the eleventh.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
So probably one of the only ways you get me
and see me at a theater and I look forward
to it all Part one, Part two, and part three.
Jonathan Rumy is Jesus in The Chosen. Season five debuts
with Part one in theaters on March to twenty eighth.
If you have never seen The Jesus Revolution, you need
to see it. Kelsey Grammer does a terrific job in
that movie. You play Lonnie Frisbee through the roof, And

(30:30):
of course we look forward to this debut. And I
just wanted to personally say to you, and by the way,
when you and Mark walked us through the C. S
Lewis month Oh followed boy to introduce C. S Lewis
to this generation in the way that you did. Thank
you so much what you're doing for the Kingdom of God,
what you're doing for the what they think is a
kingdom of entertainment. I wish you nothing but the best

(30:53):
and the continued transformation and success that you're enjoying.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
Jonathan. I love you, my brother, Thank you, God bless you. Michael.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
What a This sounds like such an old thing for
someone to say, but he mentioned it may have gotten lost.
You didn't even notice that his father was a Coptic
Christian from Egypt.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
There are some of.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
The most devout, zealous, powerful believers. I think it comes
from the cost of believing in that region. But obviously
that Coptic Christian comes to America and raises a really
unique child. He has just all the gifts, doesn't he.

(31:32):
You know, we talk about the gifts of the spirit
sometimes we're in the Bible. I mean, you can sense
his kindness, you can sense his meekness, you can sense
his gentleness. He's really an extraordinary actor and an extraordinary
human being. And it just reminds me of a lot
of people don't Knowhni by name, but Robert Powell was
Jesus in Jesus of Nazareth, an English actor who was

(31:53):
never the same after doing that role Jim cavesl and
the passion of the Christ was never the same. Literally
died and rose again when he got struck by lightning
and sick on the cross. There's something about even playing
Christ that changes people forever. And it's changed Jonathan Rumy
chosen two hundred and fifty million viewer. Season five starts

(32:15):
March twenty eighth in theaters. Part one. Part two is
April to fourth and then part three April eleven through Easter.
How perfect is that timing? So check out the Chosen
at a theater near you. This is your Morning Show
with Michael del Chrono. The Trump administration signed that executive
order and are moving forward plans to dismantle the Department

(32:36):
of Education. More on what that is and especially what
that is not, don't forget third hour Friday with forty
seven comes your way right here on your morning show.
The State Department insists Russia and Ukraine are just a
breadth away from a full cease fire.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Israel's got troops.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
On the ground in the Gaza, and a Georgia man
held in Afghanistan for over two years has been released.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
And in March.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
Madness, I had a perfect, perfect bracket until I fell
asleep and got a little too cute trying to sneak
one last upset by I had Drake over Missouri, I
had McNee State winning over Clemson, and then I got
just a little too cute with Utah State.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
It's the only blemish on my cart.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
But no real I guess McNee state and Drake would
be probably the only two upsets at the day, and
maybe Drake setting up to be the Cinderella. Possibly otherwise,
I think all the cream is rising to the top.
The rest of the Round one matchups are today, so
get your bracket firmly in your hand and we'll go
over that twenty twenty eight presidential bracket that CNN released

(33:44):
as well when your morning show continues straight ahead.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
We're all in this together. This is your Morning Show
with Michael Nhild, Joan Now,
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