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in Houston to follow at seven forty nine. For decades,
there has been a shortage of doctors, and it looks
like the trend is getting worse. As we march our
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way towards well nurse practitioners basically is the future. Doctor
roy O'Neil is here our national correspondent on the doctor shortage, doctor.
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Vinie boumbots right over the days Americans. Americans are increasingly
waiting longer and longer week, sometimes months, to get an
appointment to see their doctor. The National Center for Health
Workforce Analysis now predicting a national shortage of one hundred
and forty thousand physicians by twenty thirty six, little more
than ten years from now. So you know, a lot
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more of the medical school graduates are going into specialties.
There's a big shortage among general practitioners, family doctors again,
and then you know the medical schools are already at capacity,
so it's to be difficult to try to close this gap.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Well, you just you just hit the nail right on
the head. I mean, were the shortage really lies is
in a primary physician, right, a family doctor. Right. But
they've created an environment who would want to be that? Seriously,
I mean nobody.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
With reimbursement rates in the way hospital systems now buy
up many of these medical practices.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Okay, so when did we really see this start to begin?
And when you study the numbers, I mean we say
for decades. But there's got to be a lot of
people looking at the radio going right now, what was
the impact of Obamacare on you know, paperwork and funding
and so on.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
I mean, I think that might be where the origin is.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
It sounds like something that needs to be addressed or
we're probably pretty much going to see either go directly
to specialists or have some kind of nurse practitioner right
in the middle.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Right.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
The other thing that's been a big help has been
the rise in telemedicine, something we saw of course during
the pandemic. You know, that can really take out some
of the clog in the system there as it's more
efficient for.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
The doctors to get their work done. You know.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
One of the things of Obamacare, though, is that with
people having more healthcare available to them healthcare insurance, that
is that they are trying to access doctors more and more.
When they're out of the system, it was often too
expensive to even go to the doctor's office. So it's
been a double edged sword there.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Yeah, and remember most of this that we call healthcare
is really sick care, doctor shortage getting worse.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
What's the solution?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Has anybody got a plan or a strategy of how
to handle this well.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
There is a whole office that I mentioned that compile
the report. They have obviously a list of strategies, this
National Center for Health Workforce Analysis. They've got some suggestions,
but there is not some magic wand or one thing
to do to try to fix the situation. Two hundred
and two medical schools across the US, one hundred and
forty thousand physicians needed.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Additionally, bad numbers.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
It's interesting, my daughter is on a path to being
a uh nurse practitioner, and you know, all the doctors
that we interviewed, she was trying to make a decision
between medical school, becoming an MD or going the nurse
practitioner out every MD said be a nurse practitioner.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Something telling in that, isn't there? That sure is? Yeah,
that's interesting. Yeah, we'll see what happens.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Obviously, it's a difficult challenge for people like your daughter
to decide, you know, how to move forward to this
the litigation, the lawyers out there going after them. You know,
it's a tough propression for them. So God bless them.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
I said, become a gastroentronologist, take care of daddy.
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Become a pharmacist or a pharmacist. Yes, take care of daddy.
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Elvis Roy's gonna be back next hour. We'll talk a
little bit about the deadly storms. And we've been dodging
can here in middle Tennessee. That's for sure. What is
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This hour, we're gonna have our Spotlight Interview of the Week.
It was a fascinating conversation with Amanda Knox. I know,
(08:07):
I'm not one to follow the I don't know how
we do this. We get a case and we just
hand pick one. I don't know why some stick and
some don't. I don't know what the formula is, but
you know, it seems like every two or four years
a spotlight case will happen that all of America follows.
And so finally Amanda Knox in Freedom moving forward, sharing
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what happened, her mistakes, her life lessons, and how she
moves on living in freedom. She's out with a new
book called Free Amanda Knox or Spotlight Interview of the
Week coming up this hour. Next hour, David Sanati, we
would call this the House of your Morning Show, David.
We're going to be covering what turned out to be
a crazy week, right Liberation Day Wednesday, stock market crash, Thursday,
(08:53):
a big election, two down in Florida, two up in Wisconsin.
We've got a lot to cover, maybe even including the
final episode of the House of David, which was the
famous showdown between David and Goliath. David Snati will be
joining us. We have our Sounds of the Day. They're
always revealing, often entertaining. Today they're gonna this is red.
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I got to say, a lot of your contributions are
almost intellectual. I thought the best part about today's Sound
of the Day wasn't today there's a flashback with Nancy
Pelosi that. I mean, her dentures could fall out of
your mouth. Your jaw's going to drop so low. She
does two under dentures. Yeah, I don't know why she
(09:38):
doesn't get, like, you know, implants that are secured.
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My grandmother used to.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
We used to call it clicking her teeth, and then
she'd either use her hand and click the bottom dentures
up and down, or then she perfected late in life
just using her bottom lifted.
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Up like popcorn kernels stuck in there and she can't
get it out. I would have been that way.
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If I had dentures, I'd start playing with them, just
like I tirl my hair, just like I wear the shirt,
the same shirt every day, all.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Right, And.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
If Florida should win, this will be my best bracket ever.
Right now, I think I'm who was I talking to yesterday.
Oh my hairdresser, Michelle, she's got me beat. I don't
know how. It must have been one game early, but
she's in the top thirty six thousand. I'm in the
top forty two thousand out of what was it, twenty
eight million brackets.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
It's not too shabby.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
I mean, the one thing I do impressively, what do
I get? Do I get anything?
Speaker 1 (10:30):
T shirt? Something?
Speaker 2 (10:31):
You're not a gambling man, but it could all crumble
and crumble fast if Florida should lose to Auburn, and
the more I watch Auburn, the more likely that looks.
And then you got Duke and Houston. Houston with a
suffocating defense, Duke the complete deep team.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
They play like eight nine deep.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
I mean I literally when I did my bracket, I
just couldn't see how anybody could beat Florida, And now
I just can't see any way Florida could win. But
we'll finally have our final four this week. So we've
got a lot to cover in the next three hours.
Miss a little, You'll miss a lot, Miss a lot
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It's your morning show with Michael del Chorno.
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The director of the National Security Agency. That'd be the
NSA dismissed. Mark Mayfield has our story. Air Force General.
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Timothy Hawk was removed from his roles as the head
of the NSA and the head of the US.
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Cyber Command on Thursday.
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Along with Hawk, the second in command at the NSA,
Wendy Noble, was also fired. It's not yet clear why
they were dismissed. I'm Mark Mayfield.
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The Department of Education has a message a warning. If
you will two public schools K through twelve, you could
lose your federal funds.
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Tammy Trehiel has more.
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That's unless they comply with orders to eliminate diversity, equity
and inclusion programs. The Department has sent letters to state
education commissioners warning that DEI programs are discriminatory and the
violation of federal statutes. The letters singled out funding given
to local school districts under Title one of the Elementary
and Secondary Education Act. Public schools, on average, get about
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fourteen percent of their funding from the federal government. I'm
dammaged for heo.
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Eric Adams, one time Democratic primary rivals, are reacting to
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an independent.
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City Council president. Adrian Adams.
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That was one of the worst kept secrets.
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I think Eric Adams move came one day after a
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The DOJ didn't want to prosecute Controller Brad Lander.
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He can't escape accountability at the polls. New Yorkers are
done with Eric adams corruption.
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The Democratic candidates were at a mayoral forum at the
National Action Network on Thursday morning when they got the news.
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Former Governor Andrew Cuomo.
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Mayor Adams ken Ronos an independent if he jooses.
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The Queen's Assemblyman Zoran Mom Donnie.
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Doesn't change our strategy at all because Andrew Cuomo is
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I'm Sarah Lee Kessler.
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The US said it has finally confirmed doctor Oz as
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Carton has the story.
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Television host and surgeon doctor Memmet Oz was confirmed on
Thursday to lead the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services
on a fifty three forty five vote that split the
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USA Fencing is disqualifying a female athlete for refusing to
fight a transgender opponent.
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Lisa Taylor has details.
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Stepney Turner discarded her mask and took a knee ahead
of her bout against Redmond Sullivan at an NCAA event
in Maryland last weekend, and shares what she said to
the ref this person is a man, and I am
a woman, and this is a woman's tournament.
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And I refused to fence.
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US Fencing said in a statement that it's the responsibility
to ensure all athletes compete under the same rules and
its goal is to expand access to the sport offencing
and create inclusive safe spaces. Turner says, all that means
is women like her have no safe spaces. Finally, said Taylor.
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Billy Joel tells the story how in twenty fourteen, in
support of Joe Cocker, he wrote me a letter.
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Cocker is finally on the ballot for the first time.
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Joel sent his letter to the Hall while Cocker was
battling cancer. He died in December of twenty fourteen. In
a newly released interview that was filmed but not included
for the twenty seventeen documentary Joe Cocker, Mad Dog with Soul,
Joel said he was shocked that Cocker hadn't been inducted,
saying with astonishment, they even inducted me before they inducted him.
In the interview, Joel called Cocker maybe the greatest male
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vocalist in rock and roll.
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I'm Mark Mayfield.
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Sixties heart throb Bobby Sherman is battling stage four cancer
and his wife says he's terminally ill.
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Hey, little Well, please make you've got to.
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Sherman's wife, Bridget Publon, told Fox News Digital that her
eighty one year old husband is at home with special
care and that everything shutting down in his body. Sherman
was a teen idol in the late nineteen sixties and
early seventies, with top ten hits such as Little Woman, Julie,
Do You Love Me? And Easy Come, Easy Go In
addition to music, Sherman had a starring role in the
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TV western series Here Come the Brides. He later embarked
on a career from show business with the Los Angeles
Police Department and the San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department. Bridget says,
Bobby now wants to be left in peace with his
family and five dogs. I'm Michael Cassner.
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The Madness returns. NCAA Final four action in San Antonio
gets underway tomorrow afternoon five oh nine, Central Florida and Auburn,
followed at seven forty nine pm by Duke in Houston
and the NBA Grizz beat the Heat, Lakers lost to
the Warriors, and the Blazers won one twelve one oh
three over the Raptors. On the ice, Blues won and
overtime five to four. Of the Penguin's Lightning lost two
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Stars five to one, King's one four to two in Utah,
and the Ducks lost to the Flames four to one,
and Baseball only one game of Your Morning show Interest
Dbacks nine to seven over the Yankees.
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in nearly five years, and the futures don't look much
better today. AMAS is reportedly ready to release the remaining
fifty nine hostages in the Gaza. Obviously, the ground and
Kerman has been working. They are now ready to talk.
And speaking of talk, we decided a couple of weeks
ago that on Friday mornings early, just in case in
a crazy week you miss it, we would feature one
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of our Spotlight interviews of the week, and this was
certainly one of them.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Amanda Knox, my wife, followed this case for years.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
I really didn't got a copy of her book and
started reading. I think what drove me was the fascination
of how you don't let something like this completely define
your life.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
I mean, how do you ever really go on and
live normal? Well?
Speaker 2 (17:38):
She has and this new book will tell you how
and the lessons learned and all about being free. Our
Spotlight Interview Amanda Knox.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Yeah, born for dal Jordan though twenty years old.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
That's my daughter's age, and they're twins and they're both
in college. So all this happened to you at my
daughter's age. That makes us feel very personal.
Speaker 9 (18:00):
There they setting abroad.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Well, that's part of one's plan.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
I'm thinking, I'm thinking about that myself. But how this
You know, there's been books, written, documentaries, movies. How important
is it for you to finally have your say in
this book?
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (18:17):
God, tremendously so.
Speaker 6 (18:18):
And you know in a way that I had my
quote say back when I wro my first memoir waiting
to be Heard, But that was really about just trying
to set the record straight about this horrible you know,
trial and crime, this story free. My search for meaning
is what happens on the other side of that curtain
when you've like over, You're on the other side of
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the immediate danger, the immediate existential crisis of the trauma
and you're now trying to like piece your life back
together and ask yourself, oh my god, now that I've
been through this experience, who am I? Where do I belong?
How do I Is this just going to be baggage
that I'm caring around for the rest of my life
or is this some way going to drive some momentum
in my life? And you know, it's a story of
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a lot of crazy, horrible misadventures that are very embarrassing,
but ultimately I hope people feel really seen in them.
And this oddly triumphant encounter with my prosecutor that I
was set out in without really knowing what was going
to happen and then being very surprised by the.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Outcome, you kind of touched on the two biggest you know,
doing this interview, I'm thinking, for all the people that
have followed your story that probably are screaming questions at
the radio, how do I ask all of them for them?
Speaker 1 (19:34):
And then how do I have my moment? My moment
with you is?
Speaker 2 (19:37):
You know, I'm thinking when I was twenty, the dumb
things I did between I did most of my dumb
things between twenty and thirty. None that had the misfortune
that you did. How do you keep this from defining
your entire life, because it'd be so easy for that
to happen. I mean, when do you get to move
on and live the rest of your life?
Speaker 6 (19:55):
Well, I think that's the trick with trauma, right, You
kind of don't get to just move on, right Like
you are carrying the experiences that you have in your
most stupid and vulnerable time of your life with you.
But the thing that you like, the moving on part
of it, for me is less about pretending that it
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didn't happen and more trying trying to be not just debilitated,
but actually uplifted and empowered by the things that I've
learned from the experience. So I think for me, I
have learned to appreciate what I've been through as a
kind of credentials. In the same way that some people
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go to university to get a PhD in biology, I
went to the School of Hard Knocks and got a
PhD and like survival exact and I and like I
can look at that now and say, this doesn't define me,
but it absolutely is a part of who I am,
in the same way that Italy is a part of
who I am.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Sure The book is called Free My Search for Meeting
by Amanda Knox, and she's joining us this morning. One
of the things that really struck me is, you know,
we use words like blessings and we think it's money,
good fortune. There is probably some things because of what
you went through that you get kind of like when
somebody's blind has heightened other senses. There's probably some things
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from all this bad that is a good you have
that we should be jealous of in a way. How
has it affected you powerfully in a positive way?
Speaker 9 (21:26):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (21:26):
What change question?
Speaker 12 (21:27):
Right?
Speaker 6 (21:28):
Yeah, no, it's you're right. Like, there are so many
ways that I feel incredibly lucky. I feel like one
of the luckiest people in the world, just that I'm
alive right now. First of all, because if I hadn't
met my boyfriend five days before this crime occurred, I
would have been raped in murder too. So there's that
for one thing. But also just the fact that I
spent four years in prison instead of fourteen, twenty thirty
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forty like other friends that I've met through the innocence community.
It really puts things into perspective, and I think one
of the things that being stripped down down to basically
nothing but my own mind put me in contact with
is the fact that I am enough, Like whatever the
vicissitudes of life are going to throw at me, I
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know that I can be enough for myself to make
life worth living. And then what it means is that
all these blessings that I have in my life, my family,
my children, my career, my voice, these are all cherries
on top of what is ultimately all that I need.
And I'm very, very present with those things that I
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know are so fragile and vulnerable and impermanent.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
You may have lost four years, but some people throw
away their entire life not seeing things the way they
should be seeing, being purposed and living in the moment.
I was interested in that.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
I think.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
The one thing I can't get my arms around, how
on earth do you get this friendship with the very prosecutor?
I mean, and that gets told in this book like
it's never been told I think in any of the
other documentaries or books that have been written.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Is a strange, strange friendship.
Speaker 6 (23:03):
Yeah, yeah, And when I told my friends in the
innocent community that I wanted to reach out to my
prosecutor and see if I could have a non adversarial
conversation with him. They all thought I was crazy. They thought, like,
that's not going to happen. Prosecutors will not ever see
you as a human being. He's never going to admit
that he was wrong and that I had Stockholm syndrome
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or something. But like the way that I approached it was,
this person has only ever seen me in the context
of a murder trial, and he is like refusing to
see my humanity be in a way just because of
the nature of that space. And I wanted to see
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if I could find some kind of common ground with him,
for him to be like to position us in a
way to recognize each other's humanity. I did not set
out to become his friend, but what I discovered over
the course of time that getting to know each other
and especially him, like he felt very seen by me
in a way that he was not expecting, Like I
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have just been incredibly non judgmental towards him, and he
has been very appreciative of that fact and almost looking
to me for a kind of absolution that I am
willing to give him, just like over like I'm willing
to acknowledge that he is not defined by the worst
thing he's ever right, and I think that he's just
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astonished by that fact, and so is very, very like
he cares about me as a human being, and in
his fragility and imperfectness, I care about him.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
It's an extraordinary story. It's all a part of Free
My Search for Meeting by Amanda Knox, finally telling her
own story. In this book, she'll walk you through a
lot of untold stories, her return to Italy, her extraordinary
relationships that she's developed, and then kind of just re
establish re establishing yourself at home.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Has America been mostly excepted?
Speaker 2 (25:05):
I can't imagine what it would be like to have
who knows how many millions have studied your life and
your story and then they have firm opinions like they
lived it, like you did, like they've you know, and
and to think that everybody's talking about you or making
decisions about you, that's got to be so unsettling and
robbing you of the ability to live.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
That makes telling this story so important.
Speaker 6 (25:30):
Yeah, I have to say that, you know, yes, people
in America have been much more accepting of me. And
so when I look at someone like my boyfriend and
co defendant Raphaele Solecchico, who has remained in Italy and
is an Italian person. He's had a much harder time
re establishing a sense of place in his community because
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of the stigma and the ostracized ostralization. But even just
like being known for the worst experience of my life
has put me in a position of feeling like I
don't really know where I belong and I felt very lost,
and even those people who believed in me like, I
don't know it just it felt like I didn't really
(26:11):
have a place, and no one really understood exactly what
I had been through. And I was really worried for
a long time that I was just going to feel
so so alone. And it has only been through putting
myself out there and connecting with people and realizing the
sort of universal truths about our lives and our shared
traumas that I've experienced in other people with experienced as well,
(26:35):
that I'm now addicted to, like connecting with people and
building bridges where you wouldn't otherwise think they would be.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
You know, it's interesting people that claw their way out
of homelessness, or claw their way through addiction, or have
some kind of tragedy come to them. It's usually what
purposes the rest of their life. They're in a unique
position to make a difference for others. How much is
that purpose in helping others who have been falsely accused
or falsely in prison and kind of giving you away
(27:02):
seems like it's stuck in the same topic, but it's not,
and it's moving on and making a difference in a
way that you may have been uniquely crafted to make
such a difference.
Speaker 6 (27:12):
Yeah, I agree, Like it's this is my credentials, this
is how I went to the school of hard knocks,
and I now know how the sausage gets made. And
so the next person who comes along can come to
me and say, I'm just got out of prison. Oh
my god, what do I do? How do I feel
(27:32):
like I can have a say in my story?
Speaker 9 (27:35):
Or how do I get a job?
Speaker 6 (27:37):
Like all of these just human problems that a person
who has been wrongly convicted, or like you said, anyone
who's been through a traumatic experience. Those are all questions
that I, as someone who's lived through it, can can
help with.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
I'm also on the.
Speaker 6 (27:50):
Board of the Innocence Center, which is an innocence project
that is, you know, works to help free people who
are innocent in prison, and you being able to pay
it forward that way and try to change laws to
prevent wrongful convictions from happening in the first place. Like,
it's all very, very fulfilling, and I'm glad that I
can actually put my experience to good use.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
I've had a couple of dear friends, loser children, and
the honest truth when you're talking to them is they're
never going to be the same, They're never going to
be better. That's something they're going to carry the rest
of their life, the trauma you went through. All I
can hope is that you are as free as you sound,
and that's to be applauded, and that you'll continue to
find greater and greater purpose in freedom. And I hope
(28:34):
America will let you live your life now. But if
they are fascinated by this, you've heard everybody else's documentary,
everybody else's book, why not hear straight from Amanda Knox
herself Free my search for meeting. Terrific job on this,
and God bless you and everything you do moving forward.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
It was great talking to you. Great talking to you, Amanda.
Take care all right?
Speaker 2 (28:53):
That was Our Spotlight Interview of the Week. Amanda Knox
Free all the lessons she learned, how she's managed to
move forward.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Free my search for meaning. Our Spotlight Interview of the Week.
This is your Morning Show with Michael del Trono.
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Jeffrey Lyon has the sound read keeping and eye on
the content. And I'm Michael del Jnal. We're all here
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being sold to American investors.
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In Thursday aboard Air Force One, Trump sounded optimistic, we.
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Have a very close to a deal with a very
good grip of paper.
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He also floated the idea of using the new US
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Chinese based bike Dance was granted a seventy five day
extension from its original January the nineteenth deadline to divest
or face a permanent US band.
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I'm Mark Mayfield.
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stop investing in the US because of the Trump administration tariffs.
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The European Union is being hit with twenty percent tariffs
on all X sports to the US after President Trump
unveiled his Global tariff FLAN on Wednesday. On Thursday, McCrone
held a meeting with French industry representatives and said investments
should be suspended until things are clarified with the US.
A crone said, quote, what would be the message off?
Big European actors invest billions of euros in the US
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economy at the very moment they're hitting US. I'm Tammy Trheo.
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The Pentagon's independent watchdog, is starting an investigation into the
Trump administration's use of commercial messaging app Signal.
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Lisa Cardon has more.
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It was revealed last week that a chat about US
plans to strike hoothy targets involving National Security Advisor Mike
Waltz and other top officials also accidentally included a journalist.
The White House has dismissed three National Security Council staffers
following the security breach. I'm Lisa Carton.
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Director Oliver Stone is calling on Congress to reopen the
investigation into President John F. Kennedy's Assassination Agency two man
CIA and them off.
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Get it, trying to.
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Whack out the beer mutual interest they've been doing it
for years.
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Stone raised unfounded conspiracy theories and his nineteen ninety one
movie JFK. He testified before the House this week on
last month's release and the investigation's recently declassified records. The
filmmaker took aim at the CIA without providing conclusive evidence.
As he has in the past, he asked to reinvestigate,
most importantly, this CIA, whose muddy footprints are all over
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I'm Mark Neyfield.
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Oh come on, boss, how do you know who your
daddy is?
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Cause your mama said so? Can we do any other
lines out of the movie JFK. No, that's good. That'll
wrap it up.
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We have an all SEC semi final awaiting you in
San Antonio as the madness continues at the NCAA Final Four.
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It'll be Florida and Auburn up first.
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That'll be tomorrow at five nine pm, followed at seven
forty nine by Duke and Houston.
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Seriously, where did this week gord? Dodging tornadoes, dodging lightning
and boom? The Final Four is back, nasty weather continuing
to hit parts of the country, the stock market coming
off the worst day in nearly five years. Hama seems
ready to deal amazing a little incursion can do, and
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the Final four comes to San Antonio. The SEC semi
final Florida and Auburn first up Saturday PM Central, Duke
in Houston to follow at seven forty nine. For decades,
there has been a shortage of doctors, and it looks
like the trend is getting worse. As we march our
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way towards well nurse practitioners basically is the future. Doctor
roy O'Neil is here our national correspondent on the doctor shortage, doctor.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Vinie boumbots right over the days Americans. Americans are increasingly
waiting longer and longer week, sometimes months, to get an
appointment to see their doctor. The National Center for Health
Workforce Analysis now predicting a national shortage of one hundred
and forty thousand physicians by twenty thirty six, little more
than ten years from now. So you know, a lot
(01:47):
more of the medical school graduates are going into specialties.
There's a big shortage among general practitioners, family doctors again,
and then you know the medical schools are already at capacity,
so it's to be difficult to try to close this gap.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Well, you just you just hit the nail right on
the head. I mean, were the shortage really lies is
in a primary physician, right, a family doctor. Right. But
they've created an environment who would want to be that? Seriously,
I mean nobody.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
With reimbursement rates in the way hospital systems now buy
up many of these medical practices.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Okay, so when did we really see this start to begin?
And when you study the numbers, I mean we say
for decades. But there's got to be a lot of
people looking at the radio going right now, what was
the impact of Obamacare on you know, paperwork and funding
and so on.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
I mean, I think that might be where the origin is.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
It sounds like something that needs to be addressed or
we're probably pretty much going to see either go directly
to specialists or have some kind of nurse practitioner right
in the middle.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Right.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
The other thing that's been a big help has been
the rise in telemedicine, something we saw of course during
the pandemic. You know, that can really take out some
of the clog in the system there as it's more
efficient for.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
The doctors to get their work done. You know.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
One of the things of Obamacare, though, is that with
people having more healthcare available to them healthcare insurance, that
is that they are trying to access doctors more and more.
When they're out of the system, it was often too
expensive to even go to the doctor's office. So it's
been a double edged sword there.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Yeah, and remember most of this that we call healthcare
is really sick care, doctor shortage getting worse.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
What's the solution?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Has anybody got a plan or a strategy of how
to handle this well.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
There is a whole office that I mentioned that compile
the report. They have obviously a list of strategies, this
National Center for Health Workforce Analysis. They've got some suggestions,
but there is not some magic wand or one thing
to do to try to fix the situation. Two hundred
and two medical schools across the US, one hundred and
forty thousand physicians needed.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Additionally, bad numbers.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
It's interesting, my daughter is on a path to being
a uh nurse practitioner, and you know, all the doctors
that we interviewed, she was trying to make a decision
between medical school, becoming an MD or going the nurse
practitioner out every MD said be a nurse practitioner.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Something telling in that, isn't there? That sure is? Yeah,
that's interesting. Yeah, we'll see what happens.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Obviously, it's a difficult challenge for people like your daughter
to decide, you know, how to move forward to this
the litigation, the lawyers out there going after them. You know,
it's a tough propression for them. So God bless them.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
I said, become a gastroentronologist, take care of daddy.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Become a pharmacist or a pharmacist. Yes, take care of daddy.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Elvis Roy's gonna be back next hour. We'll talk a
little bit about the deadly storms. And we've been dodging
can here in middle Tennessee. That's for sure. What is
this music?
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know I never Season one. I don't want to bring up,
but I was never.
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were the best Saint Elsewhere, loved Saint Els.
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Never did Saint else never did Tombstone to Tombstone till
this week.
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I sat and watched him, watched that again. You're gonna
see things, I will tell you. Valth Kilmer was the
highlight of the movie. I mean, kur Russell was good,
but it was I don't know. It was kind of
like a.
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You look like somebody just walking across show Grave. I'll
be here. What was it for Erica Berry? Yea.
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To me, it seemed kind of like an homage to
old westerns more than.
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They really did.
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They tried to hold the standard of you know, because
they had organs. You know, the scenes would had to
go to black. But I want to saything negati because
I don't want deal with the emails.
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so you know it's going to be a good show.
I got my Yankees away shirt on. You've had that
shirt on for three days. Yeah, it's it's becoming a
problem though, it really is. I have closed I have
(06:41):
passed this on to my daughters too, all right. So
I have a closet with hundreds of hundreds of things
in it, Yes, but I always have a favorite one
or two things. So I don't even know why they're
in the closet. I don't know how they got there.
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I don't know.
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I was thinking the day you ever do that walk
in the closet?
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Go What was I thinking when I bought you? Yeah?
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And then this is that forty seven line.
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It leads the league in shirts that end up becoming
what my family call my uniform, okay, or they call
it either oh, there's a uniform, or they call it oh,
there's a Michael shirt. And there's just something about the
I have one that's forty seven as well.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
That's hall of fame, right mom? Yeah, that's quickly becoming
your woobie? Is it's strung out on your woobie?
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Who hasn't done that and driven an electrician crazy? I
do that with my electrician all the time. I go
twenty one whatever it takes that movie. So where was
I going with the Oh, emails, Mike, I get a
lot of emails about this.
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Great ways to be a part of your morning show.
This hour, we're gonna have our Spotlight Interview of the Week.
It was a fascinating conversation with Amanda Knox. I know,
(08:07):
I'm not one to follow the I don't know how
we do this. We get a case and we just
hand pick one. I don't know why some stick and
some don't. I don't know what the formula is, but
you know, it seems like every two or four years
a spotlight case will happen that all of America follows.
And so finally Amanda Knox in Freedom moving forward, sharing
(08:29):
what happened, her mistakes, her life lessons, and how she
moves on living in freedom. She's out with a new
book called Free Amanda Knox or Spotlight Interview of the
Week coming up this hour. Next hour, David Sanati, we
would call this the House of your Morning Show, David.
We're going to be covering what turned out to be
a crazy week, right Liberation Day Wednesday, stock market crash, Thursday,
(08:53):
a big election, two down in Florida, two up in Wisconsin.
We've got a lot to cover, maybe even including the
final episode of the House of David, which was the
famous showdown between David and Goliath. David Snati will be
joining us. We have our Sounds of the Day. They're
always revealing, often entertaining. Today they're gonna this is red.
(09:17):
I got to say, a lot of your contributions are
almost intellectual. I thought the best part about today's Sound
of the Day wasn't today there's a flashback with Nancy
Pelosi that. I mean, her dentures could fall out of
your mouth. Your jaw's going to drop so low. She
does two under dentures. Yeah, I don't know why she
(09:38):
doesn't get, like, you know, implants that are secured.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
My grandmother used to.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
We used to call it clicking her teeth, and then
she'd either use her hand and click the bottom dentures
up and down, or then she perfected late in life
just using her bottom lifted.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Up like popcorn kernels stuck in there and she can't
get it out. I would have been that way.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
If I had dentures, I'd start playing with them, just
like I tirl my hair, just like I wear the shirt,
the same shirt every day, all.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Right, And.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
If Florida should win, this will be my best bracket ever.
Right now, I think I'm who was I talking to yesterday.
Oh my hairdresser, Michelle, she's got me beat. I don't
know how. It must have been one game early, but
she's in the top thirty six thousand. I'm in the
top forty two thousand out of what was it, twenty
eight million brackets.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
It's not too shabby.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
I mean, the one thing I do impressively, what do
I get? Do I get anything?
Speaker 1 (10:30):
T shirt? Something?
Speaker 2 (10:31):
You're not a gambling man, but it could all crumble
and crumble fast if Florida should lose to Auburn, and
the more I watch Auburn, the more likely that looks.
And then you got Duke and Houston. Houston with a
suffocating defense, Duke the complete deep team.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
They play like eight nine deep.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
I mean I literally when I did my bracket, I
just couldn't see how anybody could beat Florida, And now
I just can't see any way Florida could win. But
we'll finally have our final four this week. So we've
got a lot to cover in the next three hours.
Miss a little, You'll miss a lot, Miss a lot
will miss you.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
It's your morning show with Michael del Chorno.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
The director of the National Security Agency. That'd be the
NSA dismissed. Mark Mayfield has our story. Air Force General.
Speaker 7 (11:17):
Timothy Hawk was removed from his roles as the head
of the NSA and the head of the US.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Cyber Command on Thursday.
Speaker 7 (11:23):
Along with Hawk, the second in command at the NSA,
Wendy Noble, was also fired. It's not yet clear why
they were dismissed. I'm Mark Mayfield.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
The Department of Education has a message a warning. If
you will two public schools K through twelve, you could
lose your federal funds.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Tammy Trehiel has more.
Speaker 8 (11:42):
That's unless they comply with orders to eliminate diversity, equity
and inclusion programs. The Department has sent letters to state
education commissioners warning that DEI programs are discriminatory and the
violation of federal statutes. The letters singled out funding given
to local school districts under Title one of the Elementary
and Secondary Education Act. Public schools, on average, get about
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fourteen percent of their funding from the federal government. I'm
dammaged for heo.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Eric Adams, one time Democratic primary rivals, are reacting to
the New York City mayor's sudden switched to running as
an independent.
Speaker 9 (12:14):
City Council president. Adrian Adams.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
That was one of the worst kept secrets.
Speaker 10 (12:18):
I think Eric Adams move came one day after a
judge permanently pulled the plug on the federal corruption case.
The DOJ didn't want to prosecute Controller Brad Lander.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
He can't escape accountability at the polls. New Yorkers are
done with Eric adams corruption.
Speaker 10 (12:34):
The Democratic candidates were at a mayoral forum at the
National Action Network on Thursday morning when they got the news.
Speaker 9 (12:40):
Former Governor Andrew Cuomo.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Mayor Adams ken Ronos an independent if he jooses.
Speaker 9 (12:45):
The Queen's Assemblyman Zoran Mom Donnie.
Speaker 11 (12:48):
Doesn't change our strategy at all because Andrew Cuomo is
still running for Eric Adams the second term.
Speaker 9 (12:53):
I'm Sarah Lee Kessler.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
The US said it has finally confirmed doctor Oz as
the administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicated Lisa
Carton has the story.
Speaker 11 (13:03):
Television host and surgeon doctor Memmet Oz was confirmed on
Thursday to lead the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services
on a fifty three forty five vote that split the
US Senate along party lines, with Republicans in support and
Democrats in opposition. During his confirmation hearing last month, OZ
vowed to empower patients to take charge of their healthcare
(13:24):
and crack down on fraud, waste, and abuse safeguard federal
health programs. OZ now assumes a role that provides health
insurance to roughly one hundred and sixty million Americans. I'm
Lisa Carton.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
USA Fencing is disqualifying a female athlete for refusing to
fight a transgender opponent.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Lisa Taylor has details.
Speaker 10 (13:43):
Stepney Turner discarded her mask and took a knee ahead
of her bout against Redmond Sullivan at an NCAA event
in Maryland last weekend, and shares what she said to
the ref this person is a man, and I am
a woman, and this is a woman's tournament.
Speaker 9 (13:56):
And I refused to fence.
Speaker 10 (13:58):
US Fencing said in a statement that it's the responsibility
to ensure all athletes compete under the same rules and
its goal is to expand access to the sport offencing
and create inclusive safe spaces. Turner says, all that means
is women like her have no safe spaces. Finally, said Taylor.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Billy Joel tells the story how in twenty fourteen, in
support of Joe Cocker, he wrote me a letter.
Speaker 12 (14:25):
Cocker is finally on the ballot for the first time.
Speaker 7 (14:36):
Joel sent his letter to the Hall while Cocker was
battling cancer. He died in December of twenty fourteen. In
a newly released interview that was filmed but not included
for the twenty seventeen documentary Joe Cocker, Mad Dog with Soul,
Joel said he was shocked that Cocker hadn't been inducted,
saying with astonishment, they even inducted me before they inducted him.
In the interview, Joel called Cocker maybe the greatest male
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vocalist in rock and roll.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
I'm Mark Mayfield.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Sixties heart throb Bobby Sherman is battling stage four cancer
and his wife says he's terminally ill.
Speaker 9 (15:08):
Hey, little Well, please make you've got to.
Speaker 13 (15:13):
Sherman's wife, Bridget Publon, told Fox News Digital that her
eighty one year old husband is at home with special
care and that everything shutting down in his body. Sherman
was a teen idol in the late nineteen sixties and
early seventies, with top ten hits such as Little Woman, Julie,
Do You Love Me? And Easy Come, Easy Go In
addition to music, Sherman had a starring role in the
(15:34):
TV western series Here Come the Brides. He later embarked
on a career from show business with the Los Angeles
Police Department and the San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department. Bridget says,
Bobby now wants to be left in peace with his
family and five dogs. I'm Michael Cassner.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
The Madness returns. NCAA Final four action in San Antonio
gets underway tomorrow afternoon five oh nine, Central Florida and Auburn,
followed at seven forty nine pm by Duke in Houston
and the NBA Grizz beat the Heat, Lakers lost to
the Warriors, and the Blazers won one twelve one oh
three over the Raptors. On the ice, Blues won and
overtime five to four. Of the Penguin's Lightning lost two
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to one in Ottawa. Predz of course lost to the
Stars five to one, King's one four to two in Utah,
and the Ducks lost to the Flames four to one,
and Baseball only one game of Your Morning show Interest
Dbacks nine to seven over the Yankees.
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My name is Joey from Goodier Arizona and my morning
show is your Morning Show with Michael Dell Jorna.
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Eastern in great cities like Tampa, Florida, Youngstown, Ohio, and
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drive to work live, but we're glad you're here now
enjoyed the podcast. The nasty weather continues to hit parts
of the country. Stock market coming off its worst day
(16:57):
in nearly five years, and the futures don't look much
better today. AMAS is reportedly ready to release the remaining
fifty nine hostages in the Gaza. Obviously, the ground and
Kerman has been working. They are now ready to talk.
And speaking of talk, we decided a couple of weeks
ago that on Friday mornings early, just in case in
a crazy week you miss it, we would feature one
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of our Spotlight interviews of the week, and this was
certainly one of them.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Amanda Knox, my wife, followed this case for years.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
I really didn't got a copy of her book and
started reading. I think what drove me was the fascination
of how you don't let something like this completely define
your life.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
I mean, how do you ever really go on and
live normal? Well?
Speaker 2 (17:38):
She has and this new book will tell you how
and the lessons learned and all about being free. Our
Spotlight Interview Amanda Knox.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Yeah, born for dal Jordan though twenty years old.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
That's my daughter's age, and they're twins and they're both
in college. So all this happened to you at my
daughter's age. That makes us feel very personal.
Speaker 9 (18:00):
There they setting abroad.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Well, that's part of one's plan.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
I'm thinking, I'm thinking about that myself. But how this
You know, there's been books, written, documentaries, movies. How important
is it for you to finally have your say in
this book?
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (18:17):
God, tremendously so.
Speaker 6 (18:18):
And you know in a way that I had my
quote say back when I wro my first memoir waiting
to be Heard, But that was really about just trying
to set the record straight about this horrible you know,
trial and crime, this story free. My search for meaning
is what happens on the other side of that curtain
when you've like over, You're on the other side of
(18:39):
the immediate danger, the immediate existential crisis of the trauma
and you're now trying to like piece your life back
together and ask yourself, oh my god, now that I've
been through this experience, who am I? Where do I belong?
How do I Is this just going to be baggage
that I'm caring around for the rest of my life
or is this some way going to drive some momentum
in my life? And you know, it's a story of
(19:03):
a lot of crazy, horrible misadventures that are very embarrassing,
but ultimately I hope people feel really seen in them.
And this oddly triumphant encounter with my prosecutor that I
was set out in without really knowing what was going
to happen and then being very surprised by the.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Outcome, you kind of touched on the two biggest you know,
doing this interview, I'm thinking, for all the people that
have followed your story that probably are screaming questions at
the radio, how do I ask all of them for them?
Speaker 1 (19:34):
And then how do I have my moment? My moment
with you is?
Speaker 2 (19:37):
You know, I'm thinking when I was twenty, the dumb
things I did between I did most of my dumb
things between twenty and thirty. None that had the misfortune
that you did. How do you keep this from defining
your entire life, because it'd be so easy for that
to happen. I mean, when do you get to move
on and live the rest of your life?
Speaker 6 (19:55):
Well, I think that's the trick with trauma, right, You
kind of don't get to just move on, right Like
you are carrying the experiences that you have in your
most stupid and vulnerable time of your life with you.
But the thing that you like, the moving on part
of it, for me is less about pretending that it
(20:16):
didn't happen and more trying trying to be not just debilitated,
but actually uplifted and empowered by the things that I've
learned from the experience. So I think for me, I
have learned to appreciate what I've been through as a
kind of credentials. In the same way that some people
(20:36):
go to university to get a PhD in biology, I
went to the School of Hard Knocks and got a
PhD and like survival exact and I and like I
can look at that now and say, this doesn't define me,
but it absolutely is a part of who I am,
in the same way that Italy is a part of
who I am.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Sure The book is called Free My Search for Meeting
by Amanda Knox, and she's joining us this morning. One
of the things that really struck me is, you know,
we use words like blessings and we think it's money,
good fortune. There is probably some things because of what
you went through that you get kind of like when
somebody's blind has heightened other senses. There's probably some things
(21:18):
from all this bad that is a good you have
that we should be jealous of in a way. How
has it affected you powerfully in a positive way?
Speaker 9 (21:26):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (21:26):
What change question?
Speaker 12 (21:27):
Right?
Speaker 6 (21:28):
Yeah, no, it's you're right. Like, there are so many
ways that I feel incredibly lucky. I feel like one
of the luckiest people in the world, just that I'm
alive right now. First of all, because if I hadn't
met my boyfriend five days before this crime occurred, I
would have been raped in murder too. So there's that
for one thing. But also just the fact that I
spent four years in prison instead of fourteen, twenty thirty
(21:49):
forty like other friends that I've met through the innocence community.
It really puts things into perspective, and I think one
of the things that being stripped down down to basically
nothing but my own mind put me in contact with
is the fact that I am enough, Like whatever the
vicissitudes of life are going to throw at me, I
(22:10):
know that I can be enough for myself to make
life worth living. And then what it means is that
all these blessings that I have in my life, my family,
my children, my career, my voice, these are all cherries
on top of what is ultimately all that I need.
And I'm very, very present with those things that I
(22:31):
know are so fragile and vulnerable and impermanent.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
You may have lost four years, but some people throw
away their entire life not seeing things the way they
should be seeing, being purposed and living in the moment.
I was interested in that.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
I think.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
The one thing I can't get my arms around, how
on earth do you get this friendship with the very prosecutor?
I mean, and that gets told in this book like
it's never been told I think in any of the
other documentaries or books that have been written.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Is a strange, strange friendship.
Speaker 6 (23:03):
Yeah, yeah, And when I told my friends in the
innocent community that I wanted to reach out to my
prosecutor and see if I could have a non adversarial
conversation with him. They all thought I was crazy. They thought, like,
that's not going to happen. Prosecutors will not ever see
you as a human being. He's never going to admit
that he was wrong and that I had Stockholm syndrome
(23:24):
or something. But like the way that I approached it was,
this person has only ever seen me in the context
of a murder trial, and he is like refusing to
see my humanity be in a way just because of
the nature of that space. And I wanted to see
(23:45):
if I could find some kind of common ground with him,
for him to be like to position us in a
way to recognize each other's humanity. I did not set
out to become his friend, but what I discovered over
the course of time that getting to know each other
and especially him, like he felt very seen by me
in a way that he was not expecting, Like I
(24:07):
have just been incredibly non judgmental towards him, and he
has been very appreciative of that fact and almost looking
to me for a kind of absolution that I am
willing to give him, just like over like I'm willing
to acknowledge that he is not defined by the worst
thing he's ever right, and I think that he's just
(24:31):
astonished by that fact, and so is very, very like
he cares about me as a human being, and in
his fragility and imperfectness, I care about him.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
It's an extraordinary story. It's all a part of Free
My Search for Meeting by Amanda Knox, finally telling her
own story. In this book, she'll walk you through a
lot of untold stories, her return to Italy, her extraordinary
relationships that she's developed, and then kind of just re
establish re establishing yourself at home.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Has America been mostly excepted?
Speaker 2 (25:05):
I can't imagine what it would be like to have
who knows how many millions have studied your life and
your story and then they have firm opinions like they
lived it, like you did, like they've you know, and
and to think that everybody's talking about you or making
decisions about you, that's got to be so unsettling and
robbing you of the ability to live.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
That makes telling this story so important.
Speaker 6 (25:30):
Yeah, I have to say that, you know, yes, people
in America have been much more accepting of me. And
so when I look at someone like my boyfriend and
co defendant Raphaele Solecchico, who has remained in Italy and
is an Italian person. He's had a much harder time
re establishing a sense of place in his community because
(25:51):
of the stigma and the ostracized ostralization. But even just
like being known for the worst experience of my life
has put me in a position of feeling like I
don't really know where I belong and I felt very lost,
and even those people who believed in me like, I
don't know it just it felt like I didn't really
(26:11):
have a place, and no one really understood exactly what
I had been through. And I was really worried for
a long time that I was just going to feel
so so alone. And it has only been through putting
myself out there and connecting with people and realizing the
sort of universal truths about our lives and our shared
traumas that I've experienced in other people with experienced as well,
(26:35):
that I'm now addicted to, like connecting with people and
building bridges where you wouldn't otherwise think they would be.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
You know, it's interesting people that claw their way out
of homelessness, or claw their way through addiction, or have
some kind of tragedy come to them. It's usually what
purposes the rest of their life. They're in a unique
position to make a difference for others. How much is
that purpose in helping others who have been falsely accused
or falsely in prison and kind of giving you away
(27:02):
seems like it's stuck in the same topic, but it's not,
and it's moving on and making a difference in a
way that you may have been uniquely crafted to make
such a difference.
Speaker 6 (27:12):
Yeah, I agree, Like it's this is my credentials, this
is how I went to the school of hard knocks,
and I now know how the sausage gets made. And
so the next person who comes along can come to
me and say, I'm just got out of prison. Oh
my god, what do I do? How do I feel
(27:32):
like I can have a say in my story?
Speaker 9 (27:35):
Or how do I get a job?
Speaker 6 (27:37):
Like all of these just human problems that a person
who has been wrongly convicted, or like you said, anyone
who's been through a traumatic experience. Those are all questions
that I, as someone who's lived through it, can can
help with.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
I'm also on the.
Speaker 6 (27:50):
Board of the Innocence Center, which is an innocence project
that is, you know, works to help free people who
are innocent in prison, and you being able to pay
it forward that way and try to change laws to
prevent wrongful convictions from happening in the first place. Like,
it's all very, very fulfilling, and I'm glad that I
can actually put my experience to good use.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
I've had a couple of dear friends, loser children, and
the honest truth when you're talking to them is they're
never going to be the same, They're never going to
be better. That's something they're going to carry the rest
of their life, the trauma you went through. All I
can hope is that you are as free as you sound,
and that's to be applauded, and that you'll continue to
find greater and greater purpose in freedom. And I hope
(28:34):
America will let you live your life now. But if
they are fascinated by this, you've heard everybody else's documentary,
everybody else's book, why not hear straight from Amanda Knox
herself Free my search for meeting. Terrific job on this,
and God bless you and everything you do moving forward.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
It was great talking to you. Great talking to you, Amanda.
Take care all right?
Speaker 2 (28:53):
That was Our Spotlight Interview of the Week. Amanda Knox
Free all the lessons she learned, how she's managed to
move forward.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Free my search for meaning. Our Spotlight Interview of the Week.
This is your Morning Show with Michael del Trono.
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Jeffrey Lyon has the sound read keeping and eye on
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being sold to American investors.
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Mark Mayfield here to fill us.
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In Thursday aboard Air Force One, Trump sounded optimistic, we.
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Have a very close to a deal with a very
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Chinese based bike Dance was granted a seventy five day
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Big European actors invest billions of euros in the US
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The Pentagon's independent watchdog, is starting an investigation into the
Trump administration's use of commercial messaging app Signal.
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Lisa Cardon has more.
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The White House has dismissed three National Security Council staffers
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Director Oliver Stone is calling on Congress to reopen the
investigation into President John F. Kennedy's Assassination Agency two man
CIA and them off.
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Stone raised unfounded conspiracy theories and his nineteen ninety one
movie JFK. He testified before the House this week on
last month's release and the investigation's recently declassified records. The
filmmaker took aim at the CIA without providing conclusive evidence.
As he has in the past, he asked to reinvestigate,
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I'm Mark Neyfield.
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Oh come on, boss, how do you know who your
daddy is?
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