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May 6, 2025 33 mins

Sounds of the day, and Steve Jobs was Doge before DOGE was uncool!

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Speaker 1 (00:29):
Pop of the morning to you. Thank you so much
for your time. Honored to serve you. I'm Michael del Jarno.
This is your morning show. They got themselves a hit
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And then there's John Ham's sister, Allison Lena Hall. Oh
is she terrific. It's called Your Friends and Neighbors. She'll

(00:50):
join us next week on the show. Dave Barry, who
is always one of my favorite humorists. Would you call
him a columnist, an author, a humorist? I would think
columnists first, but a humorous columnist, yes, legend John Dave
Barry's going to be joining us later this week. He's

(01:11):
out with a new book, Class clown something I can
relate to. I was definitely the class clown. My teacher
always wanted it, or as my teachers would always say
to my parents, Michael feels the need to entertain the class.
You know what I got, Jeff is a very witty child.
My mother said, go look it up, and when I did,
I went, you know what I'll wear that? I'll wear that. Yeah. No,

(01:33):
there's something about making the class laugh. Class clown. Memoirs
of a professional wise ass How I Went seventy seven
years without growing up. That's a book title for you,
Dave Barry. Later this week and tomorrow, Speaking of authors,
we're going to be visiting with Jason Bailey, who has
written a new book called Gandolfini and it is a

(01:58):
terrific account of the life of Tony soprano James Gandelphini.
So we'll have that coming up for you. As for
this morning, it's nine minutes after the hour. The Trump
administration is offering one thousand dollars to illegal immigrants if
they just self support using the government app Tomorrow is
your deadline for the real, id and heartbreaking last minute

(02:21):
shot nuggets over the Oklahoma City thunder Thunder are more
than good enough to come back. In fact, it may
be good to get a shocking loss to start the series.
They'll thunder up and then the Knicks, boy, they stole
Game one, trailing by twenty throughout to the Celtics and
then just poured it on the fourth and won in overtime.
We'll have more in sports coming up, but first things

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foist on this Tuesday, May the sixth, you have our
laud twenty twenty five, always revealing, often entertaining. This is
your sounds of the day. All right, everybody look them out. Look,
you just got a truck exactly the opportunity for their
brief pe Civics lesson sure.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
Fashion, I could be alone with the pate deteriorating mental condition.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
Well, COVID, where do you begin, Obviously, the weaponization of
a virus, I guess you start where it began in
China and the gain of function research that was being
done there, How it got outside the lab, How they
protected their citizens and recklessly allowed the spread to other nations.

(03:31):
China never held accountable. Then the weaponization of the virus
itself for political gain. Donald Trump was flying high, but
then they weaponized COVID. Then they used Fauci to mislead
the president the two million would die by easter. Then
he shut down the government, shut down the economy, and

(03:56):
then paid everyone to stay home, which destroyed them and
his chance or at least the cake walk of a
reelection and a lot of trust along the way. There
hasn't been any accountability for China or Fauci app but

(04:18):
as for gain of function, it came up in executive
Order yesterday. Listen.

Speaker 5 (04:23):
Gain of function research is a type of biomedical research
where pathogens are adulterated. Viruses are adulterated to make them
more potent or to change the way that they function.
Many people believe that gain of function research was one
of the key causes of the COVID pandemic that struck
us in the last decade. What this executive order does,

(04:45):
first of all, it provides powerful new tools to enforce
the ban on federal funding for gain of function research abroad.
It also strengthens other oversight mechanisms related to that issue,
and creates an over our strategy to ensure that biomedical
research in general is being conducted safely and in a

(05:06):
way that ultimately protects human health.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
More, it's a big deal. It could have been that
we wouldn't have had the problem.

Speaker 5 (05:13):
We had a lot a lot of people say that
sort of we had this done.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
RFK Junior went on to explain the history of Gain
and Function, how it came across President Nixon's desk, that
it was the new nuke. It's how you could destroy
the entire population a twenty nine cents a pop. But
it found its way back in. You know, we're talking

(05:40):
about the things China never held accountable. Fauci never held
accountable US involvement and Gain of Function research, and it
continued even after COVID maybe the most significant executive order
to date. Well, I was watching two things. Elon must

(06:02):
dropped a bomb. One was talking to Jesse Waters about
how the Sun's going to annihilate us eventually. Of course
that's billions of years from now, presuming we've been around
billions of years, which is debatable. But this fraud revelation
the DOGE found this one was a doozy last night.

(06:23):
It definitely makes sounds of the day.

Speaker 6 (06:25):
We've actually found there's a lot of people who are
federal coming employees that are active employees who nonetheless applied
for it and have received unemployment.

Speaker 4 (06:32):
Insurance while they are federal employees.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
Yes.

Speaker 5 (06:35):
Wow, and this appears to be at least one hundred
thousand people.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
Wow. I used to always say the best jobs, the
highest paying jobs, the most secure jobs, the jobs with
the best benefit shouldn't be government jobs. I never knew
you could have a great government job and unemployment. This
is my favorite sound of the day, I think, hands down,

(07:00):
because everybody was saying, look at Donald Trump's commencement speech
at the University of Alabama. Compare that to Joe Biden whispering, yelling,
being angry, being senile at Morehead, to all this negativity, Well,
you want a real comparison now, remember and I'll just
review this very quickly. I actually think you should be

(07:23):
very suspicious that AOC is going to run for president.
I think you ought to be very very suspicious that
she's going to be the leading candidate for president, much
the same way Bernie Sanders was. So who's the new AOC?
Jasmine Crockett. Here's Jasmine Crockett speaking at a commencement address
at a historical black college in Jackson, Mississippi. Notice how

(07:47):
loving and positive the left is compared to how charming
positive and inspirational President Trump was, and Trump's the devil,
Trump's the insurrectionist hate monger. Listen to Crockett. Can you
imagine working hard, getting your degree, going to your graduation

(08:10):
and this is your inspirational commencement speace.

Speaker 7 (08:12):
Ova and Ova and Ova that you absolutely belong. There
are people that are going to tell you that there
is not a table in which there is a seat
for you. But I am here to remind you of
Montgomery and those folding chairs. Let me tell you, did
we know how to use a chair? Whether we pulling

(08:33):
it up? Are we doing something else with it? He
Let me be the first one to tell you that
I know that y'all are ready to put your boots
on the grounds.

Speaker 4 (08:50):
That's your cue.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
Yeah, they would need a queue. I mean so many
thoughts go through my head. That'll testnut. Let's prosecute a
time that doesn't exist anymore, because if what you're saying

(09:12):
is true, that they're graduating, but they live in a
racist country and there's not going to be any table
or seat for them at any table. How'd you get
to Congress? How Barack Obama become president? Why the heck
are you making their commencement about your agenda. Why the
heck are you talking about hitting people over the head

(09:34):
with chairs? Just your peace loving lefties, full of love,
full of optimism, full of the American dream. Can you
imagine what those graduates were thinking out of any of
them have any credibility after they hit the greatest hopes

(09:57):
of all while second greatest to COVID hiding seen now
old Joe for four years. Well that came up with
Jensaki in a podcast. Listen.

Speaker 8 (10:04):
But to go back before that, I mean one of
the I think that like when the at least for
a time, when the history of this period is sort
of written and understood, I think there's a consensus that
the media generously missed and ungenerously covered up.

Speaker 4 (10:21):
Joe Biden's frailty.

Speaker 8 (10:22):
And I want to read something Ezrav said in Gosh,
this is like the esraklines show read out now, but that.

Speaker 4 (10:28):
Ezra said in February twenty twenty four.

Speaker 8 (10:30):
So this is while you know, during the presidency, I
have this nightmare that Trump wins in twenty twenty four
and then in twenty twenty five and twenty twenty six
outcome the campaign. Tell all books they're full of emails
and WhatsApp messages between Democratic staffers and Democratic leaders where
they're all saying to each other, this is a disaster.
He's not going to win this, I can't bear to
watch this speech. We're going to lose.

Speaker 4 (10:50):
But they didn't say any of it publicly.

Speaker 8 (10:52):
They didn't do anything because it was too dangerous for
their careers, too uncomfortable giving their given their loyalty to Biden.
I mean that feels like where we are, And what
do you make of that question? Did the did the
White House cover this up? Did the media cover this up?
Like just sort of in retrospect, and you weren't in
the White House and exactly in those later moments, But
what do you how do you read this? I mean

(11:13):
something I feel I've complicated feelings about. But I'm curious
what you think I mean.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
I obviously do too, I think cover up is such
a loaded phrase. But I also to your point, I
left in May of twenty twenty two, just for the fact,
just to govern my rear acts here, and I have
seen Biden once since then, when I took my daughter
to the holiday party this last December after he had
lost and so I hadn't seen him in person during.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
That period of time.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
I never saw that person, not a single time, and
I was in the Oval office every day that was
on that debate stage.

Speaker 4 (11:48):
I'm not a doctor. Aging happens quite quickly.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
Were things that people saw during that period of time
that were similar to that or would have been in
a category of that?

Speaker 4 (11:57):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
Possibly right, And all these books are going to tell us.
Let's take it in two pieces. First, like your old colleagues,
like I mean, and you talk to these folks, I
talk to these folks, like do you think that they
were were they actively covering it up? Were they sort
of in denial or was it or was it or
was that just a bad debate?

Speaker 1 (12:12):
Like?

Speaker 4 (12:12):
What is your read on that?

Speaker 3 (12:13):
Well, this is what I mean about. Cover up is
a very loaded term.

Speaker 8 (12:17):
I think what means you knew that it was really
bad and you're pretending otherwise, versus you're diluting yourself, which
I think is what people do a lot.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
Well, I understand, but I still think it's like cover
up is often like a crime, right, we're talking when
people use.

Speaker 4 (12:29):
That to say it's worse than the crime.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
People use that term as they relate to water Gate
or the covering.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
Up of not sharing public as I could go on,
and I'm playing it. The bottom line is, I think
there's two ways to look at I think the American
people are smarter than all this, and they've already figured
it out and they've already reached a verdict. So it
really doesn't matter what Jen Psaki says or the notion
that Trump that Biden was healthy when she was there

(12:58):
and just must have the quickly after she left. Michael,
I'm pretty sure he tripped up the stairs three times
when she was a pressure. Yeah, that's all convenient memory
on her part. But you know, you can go I
will grant her this though. Read you can go watch

(13:19):
Joe Biden with the exception of he had a really
bad day by the pool doing the whole corn pop thing,
but by and large, you can watch Joe Biden performing
in the twenty twenty campaign and he looks and behaves
remarkably different than the one at the end. But again,
the bottom line is, the American people have made a

(13:41):
verdict on this. You hid this, and it just goes
into the chasm of loss of trust with COVID and
everything else. And then I think for Democrats specifically, we
wanted Bernie and you shafted us and gave us Hillary
and lost. We wanted Bernie and you shafted us and

(14:03):
gave us Joe Biden and lost. Then you stuck with
Biden until he got all the electoral votes in the primary,
and then you have scooted him off and shafted us
with Kamala. I think the American people know what they
did and what they covered up. I don't think they've
solved their biggest problem, which is at some point they

(14:25):
got to make things right with their own voters before
a primary election. I have I have to go into
overtime because I want you to. I love when James
wood Woods does a post, and he did one on
Peyton Jackson and he basically just said, please Lord, let
me live long enough to see Peyton Jackson run for

(14:47):
president of the United States. Why does he feel so
strongly about this woman? And he plays a clip that
I'm gonna play for you coming up in part two
of Ourselves the Day, So stay with us. It's your
morning show with Michael del Chorno Sincocas trying to make

(15:07):
that catch on. It's just not Axios with a great
story today and the Trump administration paying one thousand dollars
for self deporting undocumented immigrants. I mean, the question is
they came uninvited. Now they're invited to leave volitionally. I
doubt many will take them up on that, but wouldn't
it be It's great that it's out there. Former First
Lady Joe Biden has found a new gig in the Swamp.

(15:29):
Daily Caller gives us the story of how she'll be
working for the Milken Institute on Women's South. Yes, that's
the same Milkin Institute that had their conference where they
were all bragging. You know, if we had a virus
become a global crisis, we could skip the decades of
research and testing and all the billions of dollars and
just instantly go to mRNA Wes Moore talking about not

(15:52):
running for president. But does he really mean it? AOC
not running for a committee chairmanship on House and Ways?
Is it because of seniority bias or because she plans
to run for president and governor camp will not run
for the Senate seat.

Speaker 9 (16:11):
Good morning, guys, This is Jeff in Pleasant View, Tennessee,
and my morning show is your Morning Show with Michael
Dale johno.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
Hey it's me Michael.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Your morning show can be heard live five to eight
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Speaker 1 (16:36):
Now. Enjoy the podcast.

Speaker 10 (16:38):
I don't speak Spanish, but I think that Singco Sace
isn't going to catch on because that means five to six.

Speaker 7 (16:45):
I think you mean Sace de Maya right either.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
Way, anyway, good try. I don't think either of us
are catching on. Thank you for that correction. By the way,
in the central time Zhen, you got twenty five minutes
to be to work by eight o'clock thirty five after
the hour. Thanks for listening to your morning show. I
am Michael del Join of the Trump administration offering one
thousand dollars to illegal immigrants if they self support using
a government app. Meanwhile, the real ID deadline is tomorrow.

(17:13):
We've researched this. I don't think your temporary paper re
real idea is going to work trying to board a plane.
So something tells we're gra some travel havoc tomorrow. And
the Knicks and the Nuggets both getting a win on
the road to kick off semi final series. Amazing story,
it's a daily signal story by way of the Heritage Foundation.

(17:36):
Can't Make Government Efficient is the headline, and it's the
amazing story of Apple and its founder, the late great
Steve Jobs and how Doge. He doged Apple before doge
was cool, and that's what allowed it to become the
company that exists today. Now his widow has taken all

(17:57):
of his wealth from doing all of this and has
poured that money into the Atlantic and other leftist causes.
But what about her late husband's example. This is how
one fixes a company, and thus couldn't this be how
one fixes a government doing the same thing and expecting

(18:23):
a different result. Well that's a definition of insanity. So
do nothing and you can expect deficit. You can expect
more debt, more portion of the budget for interest. We've proven,
I think, in the same period of time we've amassed
this debt that you can't tax your way out of it,
you can't spend your way out of it, and you

(18:45):
can't debt your way out of a debt problem. Now,
I guess at some point America's got to decide do
we have a revenue problem or a spending problem. Doesn't
take long to look at the spending. And by the way,
we've done this history of tax and history of deficit spending,
in the history of debt, and usually there's something attached

(19:06):
to it, a World war, a Vietnam war, a crisis
of some kind. The crisis has become the spending, buying
people's votes by pandering to them. So we talk about
questions that are never asked. That should be what is

(19:28):
the proper size and role of government? That's a good question.
Another good question is what is the role and responsibility
of the self governed? Great question. You see, you can't
get the right answers to you get the right questions.
But one of the big ones is do we have
a spending problem? Or do we have an identity problem?

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Or do we have both? And can we learn anything
from Steve Jobs? Sometimes, many times one needs to slash
and fire in order to become efficient and profitable and
then grow again. Government tells us we have to have

(20:11):
skin in the game and pay taxes. But what is
the government's skin in the game other than power? Look,
all we know is and you can take Nancy Pelosi
or many others as examples, and compare where they are
today versus where we are today. For them having served

(20:33):
for decades, they're multi multi multi millionaires, and we're not.
We're in debt and we are not just going to
pay for that with our grandchildren's future. We're paying for
it now in interest and inflation. What if government was

(20:58):
allowed to be efficient. What if government acknowledged what's our
job and not our job. Oh, you want to have
kids and then you just want to not take care
of them, Well, that was your job. And your ability

(21:20):
to self governance is tied to your ability to personal
responsibility to a moral standard that you've failed and now
you want other taxpayers to pay for. Steve Jobs co
founded Apple when he was twenty one years old. Nine
years later, at the age of thirty, he was purged

(21:41):
and fired from the company he founded and built by
the professional management he recruited. Eleven years later, after that
management brought the firm to the edge of bankruptcy, Jobs
returned to the helm and he saved the company In

(22:02):
nineteen ninety seven. When Jobs returned as interim CEO, Apple
lost one point zero four billion dollars and estimates were
that it was ninety days from insolvency. He restored discipline
and focus. Remember passion was focus equals action. Action set

(22:24):
in motion to direction directions arrived at a destination. He
slashed the product line from fifteen to four products and
fired three thousand employees. By the end of the next
fiscal year, Apple returned to profitability. Soon it would bring
forth the iPhone, the iPad, and become the first firm

(22:45):
in history with evaluation of a trillion dollars. Now, if
Steve Jobs could do that for Apple, Suppose this was
a government, not a private company. Suppose Jobs needed votes
from Congress to cut product lines. Suppose law prohibited him

(23:07):
from firing three thousand people. Not just where would Apple be?
Where would you be? No iPhone, no iPad, no applestock,
none of the trillions of dollars of wealth this company created.

(23:32):
Perhaps every dollar that moves from the private sector to
the government should have forever printed on it. The reality,
as alluded to, is that the government is by nature inefficient.
In Efficiency comes from ownership, and in government there is

(23:52):
no ownership. You have to remind yourself every now and then,
the government really has no power. Your finding fathers gave
it to you, me, we the people. It has no money,
it has no ability to create money. It takes ours.
And yet we can't make government official efficient. Well, technically

(24:15):
it can by who you elect and them following through
and doing it, or you voting them out and holding
them accountable. This is why many of us spend all
of our time with the objective of limiting government to

(24:35):
things clearly only government can do. I'll never forget Mike Pence.
A long time ago, he was just the mayor of Indianapolis,
I believe at the time, and I had him as
a guest when I was on KFAQ in Tells, Oklahoma,
and he said something so simple that made so much sense.
He said, Michael, if it's in the yellow pages, the
government shouldn't be doing it. Think of all the things

(24:56):
the government's doing it's in the yellow pages. Why do
I golf on golf courses owned by the state of
Tennessee Again, it comes back to that big question we
never ask and therefore we never answer. Therefore our passions

(25:20):
in the wrong place, our focus is in the wrong place.
What is the proper size and role of government? Well,
if we use Steve Jobs as an example, he was
Doge before Doge was cool. And that's our journey of
discovery for Tuesday, May the Sixth's Tamayo still not catching

(25:43):
on with us? All right? Big meeting today, Canada's new
prime minister is visiting the White House? Is there a
deal going to be cut? Is a what did you
say about my country getting ready to happen?

Speaker 11 (25:55):
Mark Mayfield has more Prime Minister Mark Carney the schedule
to speak with Trump at the White House.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
I guess he wants to make a deal. Everybody does.

Speaker 11 (26:02):
The high stakes meeting comes in the midst of a
trained war between the two countries. Trump has also increased
attention suggesting that Canada should become part of the US.
This will be Carney's first trip to Washington since he
was elected last week.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
I'm Mark Meefield. I know if a poll happens you're
not there, Does it make a sound? Well? The number
of Americans who say stocks and mutual funds are the
best long term investment investment is declining. Kind of depends
on when you take the picture right. But here's Brian
Shookwood one.

Speaker 10 (26:29):
According to a Gallop survey, sixteen percent of adults say
stocks or mutual funds are the best long term investment,
compared to twenty two percent of people who held this
view around the same time last year. The poll was
conducted in the first two weeks of April, when President
Trump announced sweeping tariffs that sent the stock market on
a nosedive. Despite the drop in favorability, the survey found

(26:53):
gold had a slight uptick in popularity this year, with
twenty three percent saying it's the best long term investment,
which is up from eighteen percent last April.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
I'm Brian Schuk, As I mentioned earlier, anecdotally my home
has doubled my four oh one K of eighteen years
in the last five years. But that's anecdotal. That isn't
how you look at it. You look at the market historically,
and then of course you should have a diversified portfolio,
a balanced portfolio based on your tolerance of risk, which

(27:25):
is based on your age your assets. But sure, real
estate's always a good investment, and in particular the last
few years. Gold is up right now, But that isn't
how you look at the market. But that is how
the pole tends to be influenced. The Trump administration is
offering one thousand dollars to ilegal immigrants if they self

(27:47):
deport using a government app.

Speaker 9 (27:49):
President Trump addressed the program Monday while speaking at the
White House.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
What we thought we'd do.

Speaker 6 (27:54):
Is a self deport where we're going to pay each
one a certain amount of money, and.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
We're going to get him a beautiful flight back to
where they came.

Speaker 9 (28:02):
From the Department of Homeland Security, So the payments will
be made after their return has been confirmed through the
CBP home app. The app's web page estimates that once approved,
undocumented migrants would typically depart the US within three weeks.
Those who submit their intent to voluntarily self deport will
also be deprioritized for detention and removal ahead of their departure.

(28:23):
I'm Tammy Trhio the Rock.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
Rwanda who knows East African nation. Rwanda is reportedly being
eyed as a potential destination for deported immigrants. Lisa Taylor
has the details.

Speaker 12 (28:36):
Rwanda would take migrants from countries that won't accept repatriots,
that it's unclear whether it would be seeking financial compensation
in return for accepting other country citizens. The country's for
a minister confirmed with the Rwanda Broadcasting Agency Sunday that
the government is in early talks with the US about
the proposal, but he didn't provide details. Trump borders are
Tom Homan acknowledged the administration is trying to hash out

(28:58):
agreements with other countries, but he would identify which nations.
I'mly S Taylor.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
Well, I guess timing is everything right. The commanders are
going to have their new stadium or RFK sits. Can
you imagine the visual of hundreds of thousands of people
on the mall for the NFL draft? Well, it's two
years away.

Speaker 9 (29:16):
The twenty twenty seven NFL draft.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
That's a big thing.

Speaker 7 (29:21):
We'll be held right here in our nation's capital, Washington, DC,
on the National Mall.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
President Trump made the announcement with Commissioner Roger Goodell at
the White House yesterday. This is your Morning Show with
Michael del Chno. The real ID deadline is tomorrow. A
manason custody after crashing into the front gate of actress
Jennifer Aniston's Bellair, California home. Good taste, bad move, And
the Trump administration is offering one thousand dollars to illegal

(29:51):
immigrants if they self support using a government app and
as the Trump administration restarts its collection efforts of millions
in default student loans. The House of Representatives is facing
a crucial week to make progress on the budget itself.
National correspondent Roory o'neilis here with the story. Good morning, Rory, Hey,

(30:11):
good morning Michael. All right, how does this play in
to the budget deal? Are these two separate stories or
one and the same as far as unfinished business, this
is sort of a mashup of two separate stories.

Speaker 6 (30:24):
Sorry that was on my end, but yes, you've got
the student loans coming to five million now currently in default,
and now the people are who have these loans are
being encouraged to contact their service provider, their loan service
agency to try to get right with them and take
your head out of the sand. Stop throwing away all
those letters and deleting those emails, and try to get

(30:46):
it right because if this goes to collections, it's going
to whack your credit score and ultimately they could lead
to garnishing your wages, even your tax refund.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
Now, throughout the Biden administration, I'm not trying to make
this political. I'm just trying to recover, you recap kind
of how we got here. They kept coming out picking
winners and losers, those that would not have to pay,
those who might still qualify to have to pay. But
none of them were ever finalized and none of them
were ever approved by courts. So nobody's loan was ever forgiven.

Speaker 6 (31:16):
Right right because, and that was the long standing court
battle there as to whether or not, and also led
some people not to pay the loans back, saying, well, wait,
it's going to be forgiven, I'm not going to make
a payment toward this thing. So that sort of dragged
out this whole process as well. But as you said,
it started back at the start of the pandemic in
March of twenty twenty five. So here we are five

(31:38):
years later and trying to get people back to in
the routine that paying off their debts.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
So this is five years of confusion in the making,
people going to travel tomorrow without a real id, twenty
years in the making, chaos on both ends. Meanwhile, the
unfinished business of the budget, which is I think the
primary role of members of Congress to create laws and

(32:04):
fund the government. Where are we at with that? And
are we gonna get a beautiful deal?

Speaker 6 (32:10):
Yeah, the one big beautiful bill Boys Speaker Johnson thinks
he can get it done by Memorial Day, but that's
closer than you think at this point. And because the
Republican majorities are so slim in both the House and
the Senate, you have a couple of members drawing red
lines they won't cross, and it seems to be impossible
to figure out the limbo dance that's going to be

(32:30):
necessary to try to thread a bill through here enough
so that keeps everyone happy. Some are saying they want
spending levels brought back to twenty nineteen, or no extension
of the debt limit, or they want bigger cuts overall
but spare Medicare, Medicaid, social Security.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
But Speaker Johnson is trying to find one point.

Speaker 6 (32:49):
Five trillion dollars in savings with a T and waste
front of use doesn't get you quite there.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
No, not quite there. You know, every day, a day
will end and you've got a long way to go.
Mine ends in one minute. You've got many other stations
to cover, and then shortly have to get up the
are You'll start thinking about tomorrow. What kind of chaos
are we in for tomorrow? With people trying to get
on planes, And that's when it dawns on them oh,
real idea went into effect. They're not even gonna be

(33:18):
prepared for them. Right, We're gonna have a nightmare tomorrow,
aren't we. I don't think so.

Speaker 6 (33:21):
I think most people got it, didn't even realize they
had the transition already. And I think that more people
have it than not. And then they have the passport
as a backup if they absolutely need it.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
My fingers crossed. But we'll find out if that makes
your list when we talk tomorrow. Great reporting is always Rory.
Keep battling those allergies. You're doing better today. We're all
in this together. This is your Morning Show with Michael
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