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June 3, 2025 33 mins

Ukrainian drone strikes on Russia, now what will Putin’s response be and how does this impact a ceasefire??  We asked Lieutenant Colonel James Carafano. 

National Correspondent RORY O’NEILL has the latest on the investigation into the terror attack in Boulder, Colorado, over the weekend. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
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because where inness together.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
This is your morning show with Michael o' gil choda.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
Let's get to the kitten table.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
We're going to listen to the Lieutenant. Grab your espresso
and get your canoli.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
Let's go Qui.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Because we're Aalim, we're also having espresso and a canoli.
That's stereotyping. Oh and I wouldn't give for a canoli
right now. Seven minutes after the hour, Good morning and
welcome to Tuesday, June the third. You have out Load
twenty twenty five. China is pushing back on the White
House claims that it broke the Geneva trade agreement. HAPPYI
says Mohammed Salimon has planned this attack for over a year,

(01:06):
and he says he would do it again and the
sensible hoodied Democrat John Fetterman says democrats handling of the
border was a big mistake during the Biden administration as
the Democrats some tried to pivot and turn the page,
though Kamala, Timmy and Joe won't let them. All right,
we had a pretty significant drone strike by Ukraine in Russia.

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Then we all kind of wondered what will be Putin's
response and how does all this impact a cease fire?
With your espresso and Canolian hands, say hello to Lieutenant
Colonel James Carafano, Good morning, James.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
Yeah, well, you know, leave the gun, take the Canoli.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
Leave the gun.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
Take the famous line which most people said, what's the.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
I could go for Canoli right now?

Speaker 3 (01:56):
Is famous?

Speaker 1 (01:57):
First things, First things first, though, we were doing bets
on where you were last week out of the country.
I went with either Taiwan or Korea. What did you
go with?

Speaker 3 (02:06):
Red? Well, so I actually circled the world.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
I did Poland because.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
I was in Korea and then I was in Prague,
so I actually I actually circle the world.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
There you go, and we ended up being right I
guess you could just pick anything on a map and
we'll find you in your and you're a frequent fire miles.
All right, So where do we stand with all of this?
Obviously we're wanting to get to UH. I mean they're
exchanging wounded and dead. That's a good sign. Hopefully there'll
be some more talks about a ceasefire, about a peace process.

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But it sure didn't look that way over the weekend.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
I yeah, so, and as you know, I talked to
a lot of people, and actually I was I was
just with a whole bunch of Europeans and UH in Prague.
And you know, it's it is a bit like sovietology.
If you remember, we had we created the CIA, We
spent billions of dollars, we had satellites and spies, and

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we never actually could figure out what the hell was
actually going inside the Kremlin. And I don't think things
are much different. I think anybody who kind of tells you, well,
this is exactly what Vladimir Putin's strategy is, and this
is exactly what he's thinking. That that's somebody you know
for a fact, you know what they're talking about. But
you know, just like everybody else, trying to read tea leaves.

(03:34):
I think Putin is operating out of fear. You know,
he he's afraid to quit the war because it's it's
driving the economy, it's driving the country. He's demanded enormous sacrifices. Uh,

(03:56):
and stopping means you've got a million unhappy veterans coming home.
Stopping is what do we do now? How do we
revive the economy? You know, we may not get sanctions
relieve even if we stopped the war. So it's one
of these things where he's I think he's afraid to
stop because because he's certainly not getting any great strategic

(04:21):
advantages by continuing fighting. And then we see this thing
like this Jones strike yesterday, which isn't just like an
interesting thing. This is a massive deal. I mean, here's
a target that is on the other side of the
entire country. I mean, this would be like a guy
in New York engineering a terrorist attack on you know,
somebody in California. I mean, this is a this is

(04:42):
further actually this is a long way away. And they
took out a third of their strategic bomber fleet. I mean,
this is shocking, And so what do you do if
you're Vladimir Putin, And I think that's the problem I
got put it. And I've said this before, I don't

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put off the table the possibility he just might come
in and say, okay, let's do a deal, right, because
he can do that, I mean, doesn't face voters back
home or anything. Or he can fight for another year.
But if he fights for another year, it's like, are
you going to be better off a year from now

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than you are today? And the answer is no? And
is Ukraine going to be better off a year from
now than it is today? And the answer is probably yes.

Speaker 4 (05:31):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
All right, So James Carafinal, Aeutenant colonel joining us, is
it worthy of an exercise to go back, not to
read tea leaves, but just to kind of understand the
mindset of Vladimir Putin. I've often stated that I don't
think I mean, I don't think he was thrilled that
the Soviet Union dissolved, and I think if he had
had his way, it wouldn't have. But I don't think

(05:51):
he's trying to reassemble the Soviet Union as much as
the Russian Empire. Map that's the long term ultimate goal,
but it's looking more and more like wishful. And what
he got maybe he can keep get more doesn't look
like it. And then you know, instead of a major
retaliatory strike, we get the exchange and swap of dead

(06:12):
and wooden soldiers. So I think you're right. I think
he might be looking to cut his losses here.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
So I mean, I don't think there's any question what
the strategy was. I mean, Putin is, he's not crazy.
It's the classic Russian strategy, which actually predates the communist Russia,
and it's the idea that you control your periphery, you

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control all the nations that surround you, and in a sense,
you build this buffer of security where to control the economy,
the security, the politics of everybody in your periphery, and
then you're secure forever. It's like a giant comfort blanket.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
And they might have got that from the Roman Empire, right, you.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
Have access to the sea, you have you know, trading partner.
So but it is very clear that the initial operation
on Ukraine was out of weakness. He was losing control
in Central Asia, he was losing control in even places
where he occupied territory, in places like Georgia, even Belarus

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was looking shaky. And so the idea behind the Ukraine
operation was, you know what, I'll show these guys. I'm
going to walk into Ukraine and I'm going to finish
the job in Ukraine in a lightning struck that's going
to last a couple of weeks. I will completely tower
the West, everybody on my periphery, in the South Caucuses,

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in Central Asia, even China. Everybody will get the message
that the boy is back in town. And then that
doesn't work. And then the answer is, well, if I
can't win it in a quick war, I will just
grind these guys into attrition. The West doesn't have the
stomach to support this over the long term. My right,
My Chinese and Iranian and you know, Korean buddies will

(08:08):
help you out. And and now that's not working either.
So you know, you hope that your enemies blink and
give you, you know, something for nothing. But then what's
the alternative? I mean, you know, if they if they
just stop the war. I mean, Putin could always say, oh,

(08:29):
we accomplished a great deal here. We have a budget,
we've secured a buffer zone, we have a territory and
everything else, you know, I I Vladimir Putin fought NATO
to a standstill, and then you've got you know, you
can try to work your way out of sanctions, and
then you've got time to rebuild and restock and go again.
But just keep fighting as you're just at treating. You're

(08:51):
a war of attrition and and you know the only
thing we know about wars of attrition is that countries
that fight that, over the long term, they both lose.
The only reason why the United States won the Cold
War is because we didn't. We didn't actually do much.
I mean, there was fighting, it's a Korean War and
everything else. But over the course of the of the
Cold War, the United States actually got stronger. Our economy grew,

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our population grew, our power in the world grew, and
so we weren't Actually it wasn't a war of attrition
for us because we were growing. The problem with the
Russians is they're fighting a war of attrition and they're
just they're just pulling gas out of the gas tank.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
What about these Korean soldiers that they're using from North Korea?
Could there be efforts to because first of all, Zelenski
made it crystal clear, I'm not stopping my attacks unless
Russia halts its offensives. So you know, you can pretty
much see this going the way it's been going. I
don't think Donald Trump is going to take sides with

(09:52):
Russia over Ukraine, so there really is nothing but to
back out. But I mean, if you wanted to apply
a little bit of pressure, maybe have Donald Trump get
on the phone with Kim Jong un and halt these
troops that they're they're using.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
Well, I I wouldn't be surprised if if Trump does
that or or I mean they have had them, you know,
quiet talks with the North Koreans. I don't know the
content of them, but I honestly don't think the Korean
troops make much of a difference because it's just bodies
and and what we've seen is that the Russians are

(10:30):
throwing people and and yeah, in some places they are
gaining very modest gains on the ground, but it's an
enormous human cross and none of the none of the
places that they're gaming are strategic. I mean, it's not
like you're taking a village that matters. So I know,
I don't know, I don't know. I mean, it's gonna

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make life tougher for the North Koreans to go back.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
To the table with the US final two minutes with
Lieutenant Colonel Sames Tarafano. Where will this if it does
come to an end? How will history compare the failures
in Afghanistan of the Soviet Union did these Russian failures
in Ukraine?

Speaker 5 (11:11):
Well, I'll tell you, history is going to write that
we are better off than when we started.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
And honestly, it's I don't want to put it is
because it's Trump. The problem with Biden is he never
had a strategy. He never really put pressure to the Russians.
He was fighting not to lose, and eventually we would
have lost a war of attrition. But you know, Trump

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came in and people can complain all they want, but
everybody in Europe is being exactly what Trump wants. We've
got enormous commitments for investments in NATO, Europeans picking up
more part of the burden. We have the Ukrainians actually
coming to the US. They were the ones that actually
came to us with the mineral deal and said, let's
let's create a situation where the US can invest in

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Ukraine and profit from from this. So we're partners over
the long term. That's all because of Donald Trump, and
in the end, the Russians with the lesson that Vladimir
Putin has learned was the lesson that he he from
the first term, which is, you cannot screw with Donald
Trump and and walk away and and and be better
off than when you started. I think that, you know.

Speaker 5 (12:24):
My my assessment is Donald Trump was perhaps.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
More confident that he could just get a deal with Putin,
because if you if you look back at the first term,
he boxed putin In at the first term, and Putin's
response to that was Okay, I see where we are right.
I accept that, and you could make a reasonable assumption
that that was going to happen again. But the problem
was is this is a different Vladimir Putin than he

(12:50):
confronted eight years ago. This is a desperate guy who
rolled a big bet and who's losing and doesn't know
what to do. So he's facing I think, a fearful,
we're desperate Putin.

Speaker 5 (13:02):
Who is just so appalled by the notion that I.

Speaker 6 (13:07):
Just have to bow to Donald Trump and end this
thing being worse often when I started, and he underestimated
the will of the Ukrainian people, and probably his greatest
blow was in November, with Kamala Harris losing and now
with Marco Rubio and JD. Vance waiting in the wings,

(13:27):
it could be twelve more years of this kind of
piece through strife presidency. All right, last question is we
have this forty five year old from Egypt clearly talking
like ashi hot as terrorist.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
I wanted to kill all Zionist people and I wish
them all dead. I don't see Israel's right to exist.
I'd do it all again. The only that stopped him
was means he couldn't get a gun, so we had
to use molotov cocktails. The concern is how many terrorists
has the Biden administration allowed into this country and as
America forgotten this enemy lost all the lessons from nine

(14:01):
to eleven.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
Well, look, I mean it's a double it's worse than that. Right,
It's not only we left, you know, millions of unvetted
people running around the country. We then actually watched as
foreign money and domestic extremist money created a massive anti

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Semitism movement in the United States literally overnight fueled it, created,
institutionalized it, made it okay, And we had.

Speaker 5 (14:33):
An administration that simply sat there and.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
Watched that happen because because because the people that were
doing it had connections and links and were rooted in
the Democratic Party. So there you go.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
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Fetterman said, I thought.

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your choice of exit music after talking to James Carafano
was hilariously apped. I didn't even know what it was.
Every time you go away, every time you go in.
I was just talking about I hate it when he's gone,

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on the marijuana.

Speaker 9 (17:04):
I find it a little disturbing that the government quote
legalizes it and here in California they tax and regulated
quote unquote.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
But what I'm concerned most of it is the potency.

Speaker 9 (17:14):
The stuff today is just so strong, and even the
older people that probably smoked pot back in the day
don't realize just how much different it really is.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
I just think it's interesting, Roger, that you know how
strong it is. Not kidding, somebody's got to do that one.
What was the other top pack? We had one more,
didn't we? I got one from Peter at KFYI.

Speaker 4 (17:36):
Oh, Mike, it wasn't the Ukrainian people's will that just
blew up all those planes on Putin. That was our Cia.
That was the Mi five, Mi six, That was the Germans.
That's all working together for the globalists to make this
thing keep going. That's what they want, all right. And
the guys other comment about money inside the United States

(17:58):
for Jewish hatred that came out of USAID and George Sorrows.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
Come on, man, we're paying for all of this. We're
paying for everything I was talking about. Underestimating the Ukraine,
not just laying down, and their willingness to fight. Then
you get the NATO backing, then you get the funding
that concerns you. But yeah, I think the biggest blow
to this war for Vladimir Putin was Joe Biden's exit,
Kamala Harris's loss in the return of Donald Trump and

(18:24):
what appears is though eight more years after him, probably
in the name of JD. Vans and Marco Rubia. Was
the only point I was making.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
Uh, what do he?

Speaker 1 (18:32):
I think is also in Arizona, isn't he? Let's get one.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
We're in so Betterman is one of the few Democrats
willing to admit the open border was a mistake. The
problem lies with the solution. The left idea of a
solution is always amnesty. They'll never change from that position.
It doesn't align with the American people who wants these

(18:55):
illegals out. So unless they're willing to change their positions,
they've still got a problem.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
You mean, narratives always die of reality, they have a
bigger problem than how to talk to men. They have
a worldview problem, a policy problem, and a proven failure. Yeah,
I agree. I think that's the problem with this, you know,
is we're going to learn more about the Boulder, Colorado attack.

(19:24):
Mohammed Salimon, first of all, only read questions that he's
really forty five. He could have a fake idea.

Speaker 3 (19:32):
Who knows.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
I don't know. I mean, you know, I guess it's
a rough forty five. At it's a rough forty five.
But this is clearly an act of terrorism. One we
find out he had been planning for a year and
to do much worse. It turns out he researched on

(19:57):
YouTube how to make him all a tough cocktail, and
he had to then purchased the ingredients to do so
and then constructed them because he was going to originally
do a shooting, but he couldn't even though he took
a concealed weapons class, he couldn't get a gun because
he was not a legal citizen. And this is what
kind of is the double whammy for the left. One

(20:19):
he comes on a visa, he's clearly a terrorist. We'll
get to his motives in a moment. How many other
terrorists came through? Was the Joe Biden presidency literally importing
terrorists to be among us. We know drug lords, we
know rapists, we know murderers, we know human traffickers among others,

(20:44):
But how many terrorists and our mind you only took
nineteen to carry out nine to eleven, and they were
learning how to fly planes while this guy was trying
to get a gun. He disguised himself as a gardener
during the attack. Quote unquot vote, I wanted to kill
all Zionist people. Again, a true Islamist does not see

(21:06):
Israel's right to exist. Goal number one is kill all
the Jews and destroy Israel. Goal number two is kill
all the Christians and destroy America. Goal number three is
the appearance of the hid knee mom and world rule. Now,
why do we have such differing examples of Muslims Because

(21:29):
Mohammed for a time was peaceful, tolerant, loving, just one
of three hundred and sixty five religions in Mecca. By
the time he got to Medina, he was a bloodthirsty warrior,
completely intolerant, and in between a thief. So you can
get all three in the name of living by the

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example and teaching of Mohammed. Theologically, the latter supersedes the priors.
So you could make a case that this forty five
year old is in the ultimate example and in the
ultimate state of worship and obedience jihad, which is why,
when asked, Solomon said, I would do it again. Now

(22:16):
this is heavy for morning drive, but I will tell
you because of nine to eleven, I went into deep study,
and because of the deep study, I haven't forgotten his
first name is Mohammed, and he's certainly following the third

(22:39):
example teachings and calling of Mohammed. So of course he
would do it again, and his mind it was an
act of worship. As for John Fetterman, obviously, timing lends context.
So has been the sensible Democrat, which has its irony

(23:03):
all in and of itself. The guy in sweatpants and
a hoodie that was really physically impaired from a stroke.
We give him the grace to recover, and he has.
He is suggesting a reasonable observation, especially with the timing
of Solomon and Boulder, and the murder of the two

(23:23):
israelis less than two weeks ago in our nation's capital.
That's betterman acknowledging, Gee, what the heck have we led
into this country? And yeah, the open border policies, which
I think we're designed to create voters to swing swing states,
has certainly backfired. And if we're going to ever turn

(23:45):
the page as a party, you got to admit your
mistakes and then people move on. The problem is a
third or more of their party or socialist Democrats that
are sticking by all these failed positions, all these unpopular,
woke worldviews, and they're wanting to go further left. Fetterman

(24:09):
is like Rommy Manuel and like Wes Moore, that are
going to try to turn the page. In the case
of romy Manuel, we got to get our focus off
the bathroom and into the classroom. In the case of Fetterman,
the border was a mistake. These are mechanisms to turn

(24:31):
the page. But their biggest problem they can't turn the
page because Joe won't go away. And Joe is the
subject of the greatest political hoax in American political history,
a fake presidency hidden by him is handlers in the media,

(24:53):
and he won't go away. He keeps talking. Mama La Kamala.
We did this earlier. Gives us our f first clear
sign she is not running for governor. She's planning to
run for president in twenty twenty eight. How do we know, Well,

(25:13):
she sent a lackluster three minute virtual address video to
the Democrat State Political Convention. If you're serious about running
for governor in a year and a half, you're there
in person and you're laying out your candidacy and what
you're going to do for the state, not her. She
was talking about Trump in a video that would suggest

(25:35):
by failing to appear at this convention and sending a
video instead with a focus on Trump, she's running for president,
not governor of California. That's another problem for Democrats. Turning
the page, Tim Walls, Kamala Harris, and Joe Biden don't
go away. How the heck do you turn the page?
And nobody's turning the page to John Fetterman, And don't forget.

(25:59):
It's kind of similar to the transgender poll we had earlier.
Don't forget the biggest problem transgender movement has in terms
of feeling, acceptance and culture. They're rejected by gays and lesbians,
the LG and the LG TOBTQ. I can't anecdotally tell
you one day person that I know that supports all

(26:21):
this trans movement, drag Queen's coming into first grade classrooms,
biological boys playing in girls' sports. They really don't like
even the association, let alone it's too far for culture.
The same can be true in this. Don't forget a
third or more of the party is against even those

(26:46):
that are going to try to sensibly be a choice,
debate and switch to And in the midst of all this,
AOC will be the early front runner. She's the here
apparent to the Bernie Sanders coalition. So if the DNC
is going to interject itself as it did in twenty sixteen,
did in twenty twenty, did in twenty twenty four, it's
to pivot you towards Rommy Manuel and Wes Moore. Without

(27:11):
to do that with a third of the party against him,
one of the vice chairs of its party against them,
and Joe Kamala and Timmy all not going away. Good
luck with all that. You got your hands ball. This
is your Morning Show with Michael del Chrono. China pushing

(27:31):
back on the White House claims that it broke the
Geneva trade agreement. Meanwhile, Trump and She to meet on
trade talks and that maybe as soon as today. FBI
says Mohammed Soliman planned his attack in Boulder for more
than a year and he'd do it again. More on
that with Rory O'Neil. Russia and Ukraine are engaging in

(27:52):
direct peace talks, massive attack, drone attack on Russia by Ukraine.
Zelensky coming forward saying I will not stop my attacks
unless Russia halts its offensives and then out of this
comes peace talk. Maybe it's darkest before dawn. And John

(28:13):
Fetterman says Democrats handled the border terrible. It was the
biggest mistake of the Biden administration. And get set Tomorrow
night the end the Stanley Cup Finals get underway between
the Edmonton Oilers and the Florida Panthers, and then Thursday
at the NBA Finals get underway, the Pacers will be
in Oklahoma City to take on the Thunder And how
about a shout out to the Oklahoma Sooner softball team.

(28:35):
They got a two run homer with one strike left
in the game to tie the game, only to lose
it in the bottom of the seventh. That would have
been a fifth World Series championship for the women's softball
team at the University of Oklahoma. Four is crazy unthinkable,
let alone how close they came to five but came

(28:55):
up short. All right, that's your top stories. Let's get
back to probably one of the biggest stories, which was
his terror attack that took place in Boulder, Colorado. And
the more we learn about the forty five year old Egyptian,
a legal immigrant, Mohammed Soliman roy O'Neil with the latest
done this investigation. Good morning, Rory, Yeah, good morning.

Speaker 10 (29:14):
We know that he was planning this attack for more
than a year and told investigators he apparently was waiting
for his daughter to graduate high school there in Colorado Springs, Colorado,
before carrying out this attack that happened.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
In Bolder, that's about one hundred miles away.

Speaker 10 (29:30):
But he knew that this group would be rallying on
Sunday as they always did, trying to raise awareness and
put pressure on parties involved to release the hostages being
kept in Gaza, so he knew his target would be there.
We know he shouted things like free Palestine when he
was tossing molotov cocktails and using this improvised flamethrower. We

(29:51):
also know that he tried to buy a gun after
taking a concealed weapons class, but was denied that gun
because of his amigration status.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
So there's gun laws working. So he turned to molotov cocktails,
where he got the recipe on YouTube and then bought
the ingredients and used that instead of a gun when
he couldn't get one. His quote's pretty directed to the point,
I wanted to kill all the Zionist people, and I
wish they were all dead, and I'd do it again.
That's probably why he there was no parole provided.

Speaker 10 (30:24):
Yeah, right, ten million dollar bond. He's due back in
court again on Thursday. You know, he's not facing terrorism charges.
I suppose that could change. He's facing hate crime charges
and state charges that include sixteen counts of attempted first
degree murder. It looks like they're going to prosecute this
through the state courts rather than federal. But we'll wait

(30:44):
and see how this goes. That they find it's not
necessary since he faces up to four hundred years in
prison on the state charges.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
Yeah, from keeping them off the streets, it's moot. But
difference between hate crime and terrorism mostly federal versus state,
or by definition, what are the differences?

Speaker 10 (31:06):
It's a definition thing because you have to, according to
the law, you have to be intent on changing government policies,
and that didn't seem to be really the effect here wanted.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
He wants a free Palestine, he wants to kill all
Zionist people and wishes they were all dead. That sure
feels political.

Speaker 10 (31:24):
But that doesn't seem like, hey, America, you have to
change your policy toward Gaza. That's more of a that's
a hate crime, right by that definition. All right, Well,
either way, then why have the dispute. Let's focus on
focus on getting him locked up for four hundred years
rather than was it a hate crime versus terrorism dance?

Speaker 1 (31:46):
And who knows, maybe the coming days he'll simply be
an Egyptian husband and father. But I think I think
the narrativizing politicians have learned their lesson on that one
great reporting all day, Thank you worry so much? All right,
final say, I'm gonna go with the marijuana study. I mean,

(32:06):
just this is what abandonment of absolute truth, absolute right
and wrong, and with it in order to you know,
feed that new goal, that new scoreboard. How ignorant you
can become what a shock? Right, Smoking weed has the
same long term effects on your health as smoking cigarettes

(32:30):
only culture change the narrative and said, oh, smoking cigarettes,
that's low life, that's stupid. Where's Brookshields used to say,
I think you're a loser, But suddenly smoking marijuana is cool.
Now it gets even worse because whether you're smoking and
rolling or whether you're vaping or using gummies, same long

(32:53):
term effects on the cardiovascular system and heart disease. A
government kind of like they did with gambling. We went
from Pete Rose gambled and managed, can never be in
the Hall of Fame. He is the scourge of life
to every sport is promoting gambling while you're watching the games,

(33:15):
even though it's destroying lives, increasing crime. But the government
can tax it. They're suddenly for it, R and D,
and the same thing with marijuana. But somewhere along the
line and this unsustainable trajectory of medicare medicaid, someone's going
to pay for all of this. I hope they're putting

(33:36):
that tax dollars aside for that. We're all in this together.
This is Your Morning Show with Michael Penhild, journo
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