Former President Biden was the oldest person ever to hold the office, and Donald Trump is right behind him. In fact, many of those leading the government are well past retirement age. National Correspondent RORY O’NEILL will look at the ageing Congress, where more members are over the age of 70 than ever before – and who is coming up the ranks.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:25):
We're in liten.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
This is your morning show with Michael O'dillchoman. Yeah, and
it's our job to make sense of all this. You know,
I leave town on business for thirty six hours and
all now you know what, I have to.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Break out records.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
We may have an update for you. They may be
reunited already. They're going to have talked today out of Brench
for me. Love watch these two makeup and then the
rest of the country is still on Team Musk Team Trump.
Is this stupid? Is this manufactured? Is it real? Childish? Immature,
(01:08):
sinful nature being played out for all to see there
No matter how you cut it, it's sad. We'll have
more on that with David Sanadi in a moment. First,
I can tell you one person who didn't miss me
while I was gone, Rory O'Neill. Rory, good to have
you back, all right, all right?
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Was that you.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
I was on a golf course and Paul Beach and
some guys in a shrump with a gun try to
take somebody out. It was you. I knew it was course, No,
all right. So we all know Joe Biden. There's no
question Joe had problems at his age, let alone. How
was he going to do a second term? But he
was the oldest person ever to hold office. That's obvious.
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Donald Trump's not far behind them. But they're living proof
that you can be in two completely different conditions. Many
of those leading in government are well past retirement age.
We talk about that in the Senate. In the House,
they don't leave until the coroner arrives. You can look
at an age in Congress where more members are over
the age of seventy than before. I would imagine there's
more over the age of ninety than ever before, and
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more over the age of ninety to five than ever before.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
We've got fourteen octagenarians just in the House, fourteen wow,
five and five in the Senate, including ninety one year
old Chuck Grassley from Iowa.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
All right, so what does all this mean? Is there
anything coming?
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Well, and that's the thing, like, well, there is one
gen Z member of Congress, Maxwell Frost, a Democrat from Orlando,
is the only gen Z member right now.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
And look, it wasn't always like this.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
I think back in the eighties, the median age of Congress,
you know, used to be much much lower. What was
it nineteen eighty one, thirty seven percent of House and
Senate members were younger than forty five. Right now it's
sixteen percent. So thirty five now it's sixteen percent. Do
you ever have that jaw.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Dropping experience when you're studying history and you're reading the
eloquent words of doesn't matter who, Jefferson, Why? And then
then you see the ages, right, and you're like, are
you kidding me? Tospay, you were only this These were kids.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Yeah, Jefferson was not even thirty or about thirty when
he wrote the declaration?
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Right?
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Can you believe that?
Speaker 5 (03:19):
You know?
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Now? But I'm one of the few people that's suspicious.
This is a symptom of a disengaged citizenry where if
you're really involved issue by issue, because remember, this is
a government of formed by the people, so we're in
charge and we should be watching these people even after
we elect them, hold them accountable. But we don't. And
so somebody comes along and becomes your congressman, and that's
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the only name you know, and every time when you
show up to vote, you just keep sending them back.
Nobody's even keeping track of what they're doing. I don't think.
I don't. I think term limits is a big thing
we've got to get to. I think it's killing us.
But this is on the people. They're there because the
people keep sending them there expect a different result. That's insanity.
But I'll tell you there's a side of me that goes,
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why don't they go home? I mean, we have one
that's getting ready to maybe run for governor from the Senate,
I'm like, why wouldn't you go home and be a grandma.
Why wouldn't you go home and sad those last years
with your husband? So I don't know, it's on all sides,
but people often forget the citizen. It's a proven citizen
re failure as well. Well, And let me just leave
you this quick fact.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
As agent as ancient as congresses, the state housers are
actually worse. The average age in the Congress is fifty four.
The average age of a governor in this country is
sixty one.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
'reor He's going to be back in the third hour
to talk about the It got lost in the fight
between Musk and Trump, But there was the big story
that would have been Joe Biden's former Press secretary, Karin
Jean Pierre leaving the Democrat Party Royal. Have more on
that in the third hour.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
All right.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
David Zanati is the CEO of the American Policy Roundtable.
He's the host of the Public Square, so our senior
contributor here at your morning show. When I landed last
night and I saw the tweet, the X I still
say tweet, the ex post from Elon Musk basically saying, oh,
and you won't see anything on this investigation in Epstein ever,
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because Trump's buried in a boom there. I said it.
I thought, well, this has gotten completely out of control.
I wanted just for those that are listening, there's been
an olive branch from Elon. They're supposed to talk. I
think the Italian scenario is going to play out where
these two had a very immature public fight for everyone
to hear, which if it wasn't done on purpose, it
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was stupid and in the matrix, those things are hard
to repair no matter how you cut it. It's sad.
No matter how you cut it, it's stupid. I don't
know how you repair it. It was a momentum killer
from the jaws of victory. We grabbed a feed all
those nonsensical things. But David, what do you make of it?
I'm I would have to I would have to pick
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the one word sad. Sad and stupid, one of the two.
All right, before we go there. You just killed it
with Rory, all right on the age question. Yeah, so
look here is Jeffrey read Take a look. You see
all this papers, see all these pages.
Speaker 6 (06:09):
This is a book that we were about to send
to the printer on a speech made by a seventy
year old member of Congress in eighteen thirty seven, whose
name was John Quincy Adams.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Oh, the son of John Adams. That's one of my favorites.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Tize of this man. Script all right, he was.
Speaker 6 (06:29):
Seventy years old in serving in the United States Congress
after being president President of the United States. Let me
tell you something. Seven years old, this guy had something
to say.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Well, I wanted to say two things. One, you will
find no one, in fact, the only other person on
earth that studied George Washington better was probably one of
your greatest interviews and favorite interviews. But you'll find no
one with a greater appreciation for George Washington than David Sonati.
But I'll tell you right under him, people go to
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Lincoln and others and forget John Quincy, Adamson Ferries. But
he had one of my greatest quotes. And I'll tell
you we're living it right now. And I don't ever
shove religion down people's throat, but he just said. All
I'll say is this republic is altogether wrong for an
immoral people. That's the real breakdown. Until we get right
with God and what is right and what is wrong,
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this republic will never function. Well, that's what the Common
Denominator he found himself coming to. He was a brilliant
mind and a brilliant example, amazing patriot.
Speaker 6 (07:34):
And amazing servant. So we're going to be doing much
much war about that on the public square. But I
just the point of what you're talking about is at
seventy he was really but this guy was a dynamo,
an unbelievable mind. This guy served in the administration of
George Washington as a kid, and he served in Congress
with Abraham Lincoln. He's the only person that spans the
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first to the sixteenth president, so his point of view.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Probably is pretty pretty relevant.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Yeah, thank you, thank the fine things.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
But thank you're the only other person I know that
have plucked this guy out. I mean, every American alive
today should be studying him.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Go ahead, So, so to the question that.
Speaker 6 (08:14):
We have now that the big boy, you are right
to talk about changing all of the news cycles, talk
about this disgustingly gutting momentum, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. Okay, two
things about this. Guess what. Elon Musk and Donald Trump
are sinners, just like all the rest of us, and
they can lose their minds, and they can make big mistakes,
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and they can say him out loud. And by the way,
they're also two rich white billionaires. And I'm going to
tell you something, friends, that is a dangerous equation because
I'm sorry, but it's when it gets down to it.
When you've been a billionaire for a long time, you
just lose context of consequence and sometimes what you say
because there's always someone standing nearby to write a check
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to fix what you broke, or to send a letter apologizing.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
You're just not used to having those kind of dialogues.
Speaker 6 (09:04):
So the clash of the Titans, while they didn't do
it on a phone, no incredible.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
You know what, Michael, there's an interesting lesson. You and
I have spent a lot of time.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Yes we have.
Speaker 6 (09:17):
We spent a lot of time talking about and I
am as guilty as you get us.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Back in the podcast business, all right.
Speaker 6 (09:24):
I was guilty as any other human in the world
of wishing I had done better or saying exactly the right.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Thing at exactly the wrong time.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
That all being set, there is a bigger reason for
this blow up that would be really smart for us
to take a look at. And you're not going to
hear anywhere else, not because we're unique, but because nobody
else wants to talk about it. Donald Trump has set
unreasonable expectations, as has Elon Musk set unreasonable expectations, and
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those unreasonable expectations infect the mindset of all of us
that are watching this process us. You can't move anything
through the United States Congress unless you have sixty votes
in the Senate.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
That means you can't pass a good idea or a bad,
bad idea.
Speaker 6 (10:12):
And they're therefore the problem with all of this is
that you have got to have patience. It's going to
take four budgets to get to the kind of reform
that they're trying to put together.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
But they didn't sell it in four budgets. They sold
it in.
Speaker 6 (10:29):
One big, beautiful, beautiful bill and stupid.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
It doesn't work that way.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Do you think because I thought this? Do you think
Elon Musk thought it was going to be as simple
as I'm Elon Musk. I'm working closely with the president.
We've identified waste and fraud. Now let's get on too
fixing this spending problem. And he just thought they could
do it without without Senate approval because they didn't. You know,
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you're not going to cut trillions of dollars without a
lot of senators and you're not going to do a
bill that ends up the way he started it. So
I mean, I know I must get a temper tantrum.
These people don't get I worked so hard to cut
all this betting, and then this thing is just filled
with a bunch of pork. They ought to be ashamed
of themselves. Well, that's not understand What you're suggesting is
he didn't understand the.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Process, thank you, sir.
Speaker 6 (11:21):
And when you multiply that process by an aged population
that has grown incredibly wealthy as career politicians being their thirty,
forty and fifty years making a boatload of money, walking
in moderately wealthy, walking out richer than imagination, and being
toe tagged in the process.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
They love cloture.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
They love the fact you can't get anything done with
sixty because that makes all of them exponentially more important
than anybody else. And we don't run a presidential campaign explaining,
by the way, every promise that I'm making you right
now depends on whether or not we have sixty votes
on the Senate disclaimer, we.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Had to pass like a tobacco.
Speaker 6 (11:56):
Of warning on every political commercial that's said warning, this
is only applicable if we.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Have sixty votes in the Senate, because it doesn't work.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
David'sonati joining us, our senior contributor. We've used to emphasize
this all the time. But we have new cities, new
listeners all the time. The reality is never lose sight
of the Club of one hundred. And let me tell
you something. The Club of one hundred never turn on
each other. Oh they'll play games just like you just
saw yesterday on CNN and MSNBC, but they're the ones
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having scotch afterwards. And if one turns on the other,
standard the Club of one hundred the United States Senate,
that's the secret society right in plain view.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Yep, it's right there.
Speaker 6 (12:39):
The conspiracy is there, and it's the leadership of that
group that is so powerful you want to don't know
while they all have that same quiet smirk on their
face as they know. They know you can say anything
in the news, anything in the news cycle, but at
the end of the day, it's going to get behind
closed doors.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
And how does that work with a budget. Well, I've
got to have all these votes for the.
Speaker 6 (12:57):
Budget and I can only go a little tiny bit
too reconsile.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
So what are you going to give me to get
my votes? It's a mob rule.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Well, I remember the name itself, and I think I'm
one of the only ones that kept pointing to this
and It's like I was cracking a joke that nobody got.
How do you have a big beautiful bill? How do
big and beautiful end up next to each other?
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Yeah, you sound like Elon right there.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
He picked that out pretty quick.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Well yeah, I mean well, my brother calls me, He goes, Moke,
what's going on with these two? I gotta tell? And
he went team Musk immediately, And you see all my
instincts are team Musk. I'm serious when I whip this
out all the time. This is the stuff I would do,
And it wouldn't matter who's president, wouldn't matter who makes
up the club of one hundred, doesn't matter who your
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congressman is. This thing would be on autopilot. A zero based,
prioritized balanced budget, no continuing resolutions. The budget is set,
it is law, you can't overspend it, and the budget
is tied to the two year cycle of the legislature
in the House, a flat or fair at tax, so
everyone has skin in the game. Term limits for all politicians,
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only paper in person voting. You do that. This whole
thing is on autopilot, and you don't have any of
this nonsense. So when I start calling balls and strikes.
I'm kind of Elon, except you don't do this in public.
You say this in private. But that goes back to
what I want to conclude with when we come back,
which is you and I talked about a fight between
Bascent and Elon Musk two weeks ago, and everybody thought
(14:23):
we were manufacturing something out of thin air. And then
it looked like we were stupid because they swept it
under the rug, but it didn't hold.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
It's your Morning show with Michael del Chno.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
I want to get this in real quick. We're visiting
with David Sinaudi, our senior contributor. Obviously the Trump Musk
fight and it may be coming to an end. They
may reunite. We talked about I think it's going on
two weeks ago, a fight between Bacent and Musk, f
wards flying mostly from Bassent. Musk storms off, and we said, hey,
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something's going on and Musk is gone, then all is
quiet for a couple of days. Trump does the formal
goodbye with Musk from the Oval office. But there might
be something to this. This is a guy that's made
a lot of billions for sorrows and been probably made
a lot of money off of sorows he backed Clinton,
how do you end up in this administration? And is
persent the lost peace in this whole fight that we're watching.
Speaker 6 (15:20):
Yeah, somebody's got to deal with that one, because it's
there and it's in plain sight.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
In the Atlantic seems to be the only one having
any fun with it.
Speaker 6 (15:27):
And I'm not suggesting it's funny or it's a toy,
but they definitely are using it to advantage.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Which, by the way, if you've.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Oh their article this morning, I read it and it's
I read it on the air before you came on. Yeah,
they couldn't have hopped on this better. Yeah, and you
know how Feth must have been smiling, fingers plugging. They
were loving this story.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
They were having a blast with it.
Speaker 6 (15:47):
And and uh and of course it's like the great
we told you so.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Well, you know what, probably.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Right is percent the Fauci of this administration, because Fauci
was a well that's on objay. That did it, that
solidified David into overtime. This is Andy Hickson, formerly of Nashville,
now living in Detroit, Michigan.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
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Speaker 1 (16:14):
My morning show is your morning show. Hi, I'm Michael
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(16:38):
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But we're glad you're here now, enjoyed the podcast honor
to serve you. I'm Michael del Jono in this is
your Morning Show? Well here were the headlines starting the morning.
President Trump and Elon Musk spent much of Thursday engage
in a very public war of words. Yeah, I mean,
Musk was saying im beachment. You won't see anything on
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the epsteins Now, huh, that's because Trump's in him. Then
must says he'll have his company SpaceX decommission the Dragon spacecraft.
A top Trump supporter, Steve Bannon, calling for President to
investigate Elon Musk, as members of Congress did the same. See,
that's the divided nature of our culture. We live in
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a matrix, and everyone will take an immediate passionate position.
Now you're either Donald Trump is great and Elon's a
crazy nut. Or Musk is right that Bill's too fat.
I'm disappointed in Trump. Meanwhile, two people are acting immaturely
and you're picking a side. And guess what. None of
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this is productive for our future or our children's future.
If it's real, it's sad. If it's a stunt, it's stupid.
But then no sooner does that happen, And it looks
like be making up. Musk offers stunning olive branch to
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Trump as romance desinigrates.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
It threatens to rip Meck apart.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
But now they're reunited. I can't Beaches and her cooperate
and beyond the chorus when I need them to be.
David Sinat, he's our senior contributor, he's joining us.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
You know.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
I brought something up that we talked about two weeks
ago on the air, and I don't know anybody else
not to play that game. Who cares. But I didn't
hear anybody else talk about it so much, so I
started thinking, well, maybe we're reading this wrong, Maybe maybe
we're we should just be ignoring this. But there was
a big fight between Secretary Percent and Elon Musk, a
(18:45):
lot of f bombs thrown mostly by Percent, and must
stormed off, and I said, wait a minute, if they're
in a fight, why is anybody talking about David immediately
does some research. Of course, we find out that Percent
was doing major deals with George Sorow's billion dollar deals.
He was a supporter of Clinton. Then we were like, well,
(19:06):
how did acent end up in this? And we remember
Fauci did in Trump one believing Fauci. Fauci pulled him
into an office and said, two million will be dead
by easter unless you shut this government down and shut
this economy down, and send everybody home and send them
checks to keep them home. And of course it was
all based on ridiculous assumptions because they didn't have actual
(19:27):
data in these projections, but scared Trump Trump did it.
It destroyed the America he made great and probably did
him in in the next election, along with a lot
of weaponization of COVID and fraud. Still, nobody goes to
jail for anything, and everybody's got pardons with an auto
pen So we'll put that aside for a second. But
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here's the bottom line. It and I asked this question.
It sent us into overtime is percent the fauci of
Trump two point zero second term? Because that Donald Trump
does a lot of things right, but he always seems
to have an achilles that you know, is exposed, and
maybe percent is that one? How much of this fight
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with Donald Trump and Elon musk Issent related?
Speaker 6 (20:16):
The cringe factor on the first question is such that
millions of people across the country are now touching the
back of their neck with the children. Do you even
have to put that in the equation? That's a scary question.
It's an insightful question, and it's one that I hope
that the chief of Staff, missus Wiles, is thinking about.
(20:37):
I don't know if she shouldn't just basically come out
of the office and grab the two of these people
and smack them up the side of the head.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Wait wait, wait, time out. Why First of all, Pat
Summerl's daughter, who is the chief of staff, is one
of the most brilliant, powerful women. When we started this,
I looked at David when he made that choice, and
I said, all right, now we're talking Trump two point zero.
Because all the things that fool Trump and Trump one
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point zero, or all the people that had access to
him or even his dangerous aspects of his personality out
of control that were a detriment to him. None of
that's going to happen because she'll control all that. How
do this fight happened with her on the watch?
Speaker 6 (21:15):
Well, that's a very good question, and that's if I'm
scanning news sources right now. It's kind of funny because
you've obviously got a story source that says that an
olive bet branch has been extended. All I can see
is like five hundred media outlets trying as fast as
they can to write about the ringside match, and you're
saying that it's possible somebody's already throwing in the towel,
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which makes me wonder if the chief of staff is
behind the scenes making a few phone calls.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
David, I never start in America, because in America journalism
is dead. I always have to go across the pond
to find out what's really happening. So it's the Daily
Mail and about five correspondents that have put together the
story that Elon Musk attempted to de escalate his spiraling
feud with Donald Trump last night as the White House
aides organized crisis call between the warring billionaires the romance
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between the world's richest and most powerful men was in
tatters on Thursday, and Musk calling for Trump's impeachment, dropping
the bomb on the Epstein files and the reason you
won't know much about them, but it looks as though
they're going to have a call today and they're going
to work this out. But you and I are Italian.
We've seen this a million times. Right, Two people get
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in a fight, everybody takes sides, then they make up,
and then everybody that took a side is the one
left looking like the dysfunctional idiots of gang Wars. Okay,
the bascent. What is his role in this, Well, his role.
Speaker 6 (22:39):
Is an odd one because Donald Trump is not a
stranger to Wall Street or how it operates, or how
to profit.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
From Wall Street and lose money in Wall Street.
Speaker 6 (22:46):
Acent is a I guess he's kind of a poster
child for what it looks like to be an elitist
in the world of.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
The stock exchange and the stock markets.
Speaker 6 (22:56):
And he has worked on two occasions, for a period
of years on some of the biggest deals, working directly
for George Soros and for his management company. So this
guy is not coming out of the Heritage Foundation today
and his worldview and his perspective are completely different from
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Donald Trump. So Donald Trump brought him in for a reason.
Whether he's a human shield in the administration against other
media people attacking Trump for being monolithic and only hiring
people from Fox News, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
All I know is that.
Speaker 6 (23:33):
It's widely reported and documented across the media that there
was a highly verbal physical argument outside the Oval office
that was heard, and according to the Atlantic, they had
at least fourteen leak sources confirm on their story that
they reported that this was a completely out of control alternate.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
And we've seen that play out right. Dan Elon Musk
is really mad at percent, really doesn't trust and then
he wants he wants Donald Trump to take his side,
and Trump doesn't, and then it turns ugly in a
tantrum towards Trump. See. I think that's what's really happening now.
Why these are powerful people that should understand the American
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matrix in our culture and political realities have fallen for
this and done this for everyone to see. I'll never
have an explanation other than sad and stupid.
Speaker 6 (24:24):
But one of the lines that came out from the league.
Was that Musk quite insightful? He said, the percent, what
have you ever done except work for Sorows.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
And make him money? That's kind of the quote, what
have you ever done except been been a manager for Sorows?
Speaker 6 (24:43):
Now, okay, let's not pretend for one second that Elon
Musk doesn't know who George Sorows is and what he
does and the percent doesn't as well.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Question is, how does Donald Trump square those My brother
Vic and I circle those squares?
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Yeah, my brother Vic and I always used to like
to all through childhood we would do this, you know,
we'd be observing all these adult fights, and then we
would use a hook of a song to just kind
of summarize the reality that they can't seem to see.
In this case, if this is a stunt, you know,
playing chess with people observing checkers, they misread culture that
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will be divided and take a clear side in this.
In other words, Elon Musk and Donald Trump could make
up today, but half this country is not going to
move on that quickly and make up. So the song
we would have chosen on that one is oo. The
damage is done. So let me ask you they patch
things up, do we gain minim do we get back
(25:49):
on to it. I mean, how how do you repair yesterday?
Or is the damage done for the American people not them?
Speaker 6 (25:57):
Yeah, the momentum was the spirit behind Doge, which was
a spirit in my opinion, of awareness, of reckoning, even
of repentance, of saying, look, spending is our problem, and
we've got to start in the house, and we've got
in our own household. We've got to start inside this
government and begin to understand we've got to set the
(26:20):
trends on spending reductions. Now, if you listen to watch it,
because you some of these people are guests on your show,
I got to be careful if you listen to some
historic Oh you're talking about go ahead.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Newt last night on Fox.
Speaker 6 (26:37):
He's kind of smiling and saying, gee, you just don't
understand how it all works, and blah blah blah blah
blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Mister speaker.
Speaker 6 (26:44):
Yes, you indeed were the speaker over the last balanced
budget in a century in nineteen ninety four. Okay, that's true,
all right, So why don't we have some of that
strategy today?
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Because you don't have the votes in the Senate, you're
not even close to the votes in the Senate.
Speaker 6 (27:00):
So we've got to reset expectations so that people can
understand this is going to take time, Michael to get
what Doge wants to accomplish.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Who's going to take ten years. We have annual budgets.
Speaker 6 (27:13):
I mean, when you have an annual budget at the
size of five trillion dollars, how do you get through
that in twelve months?
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Let me let me bring us to a crashing close,
because the clock says we have to a lot of
people turn the radio on and say, if they're fans
of the show, I want to hear what Michael and
David have to say about this, and the bottom line
is it's sad. But remember percent that's a part of this.
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And if you don't get that, you don't get what's happening.
Remember the Club of one hundred, because if you don't
get that, you don't get what's happening. And don't lose
sight of billionaires who are also centers just like you
and I. But making the big mistake of showing it
for all to see. Now how to repair and get
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back on course? I don't know. Time will tell, but David,
your insights have been invaluable. Have a great weekend, thanks Michael,
and I hate these I hate these times of the
year when we're states away from each other. But I'll
pretend we're going golfing later today and I'll cheer up.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Work for today.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Jeffreyiations patience, patience, patience. Everyone. Well, if you're just waking up, obviously,
there's one top story. President Trump and Elon Musk gott
a big war of words for all of us to
read and hear and see.
Speaker 7 (28:35):
Trump was asked about Musk's criticism of The Big Beautiful Bill.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
My White House correspondent John Decker and I.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Asked the President this question for his reaction to what
Elon Musk had been posting on social media this week,
and he gave me an eight minute long answer.
Speaker 7 (28:51):
Trump told Decker he doesn't know if he and Musk
will continue to have a great relationship. After that, an
online war of words erupted between the two men.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Trump said he asked Musk to leave his administration.
Speaker 7 (29:01):
Trump said Musk was upset he was ending the ev mandate,
which will cause Musk billions.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
I'm Mark Mayfield.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Well. Republicans on the House Oversight Committee have shot down
any attempt by the panel's Democrats to jump on this
in subpoena elon Musk, Democratic.
Speaker 5 (29:15):
Members of the Oversight Committee say they want answers about
Musk's short stints in the administration. Acting top Democrat on
the panel, Stephen Lynch, says, Musk may say he stepped
away from his role in the federal government, but his
recklessness will continue to have devastating consequences for America for years.
Republicans on the panel suspended the hearing to give their
colleagues more time to arrive and vote down the measure.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
I'm Scott Carr in Washington. Meanwhile, muss says that he
he'll have his company SpaceX decommissioned the Dragon spacecraft immediately.
Speaker 8 (29:46):
The billionaire's post on X Thursday came amid a war
of words with President Trump. Musk's post came minutes after
Trump threatened to cancel government contracts with Musk's companies. Their
online flab intensified after Musk criticized the so called Big
Beautiful Bill that Trump's been pushing. The Dragon is the
only spacecraft being used to transport crew to and from
the International Space Station. I'm Tammy triho.
Speaker 7 (30:10):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
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the upcoming biopic about the band Can This Be As
Good as Bohemian Rhapsody? Deadline reports Nick will go through
some vocal training to nail Stanley's voice. The film, entitled
(30:31):
Shout It Out Loud, is projected to go into production
by the end of this year or early next year.
There's no word on when it will be released and
who will be cast to play Gene Simmons will The
first full moon of the summer season will arrive next
week Breed Tennis with the tails on the arrival of
what we call the Strawberry Moon.
Speaker 9 (30:53):
NASA says the Strawberry Moon will be visible in the
night sky on June eleventh, with peak moon viewing just
before one am Pacific time. Despite its name, the moon
will not be pink, but it will look larger and
brighter than usual. That's called the moon illusion, and it's
due to the moon's low position in the sky that
makes it appear larger and do take a peek. Legend
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Speaker 8 (31:17):
I'm bree tennis.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
I woke up a little bit in a bad mood.
By one point. The Indiana Pacers took Game one on
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one ten. They now lead one game to nothing. Game
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Speaker 2 (33:02):
This is your Morning Show with Michael del Chona.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Well you know what played out yesterday? President Trump and
Elon Musk Mosku spent most of the day engaged in
a very public war of words. I was about to
board a plane when Musk was calling for the impeachment
of the president. By the time I landed, he had
brought up the Epstein files. A little bit in between
I was texting from the airplane Michael force One with
(33:29):
John Decker, who was in the Oval Office witnessing all this. First,
what a crazy day? May you live in interesting times?
John Decker and you two.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Well, not only was I witnessing it, it was my question,
yeah to the President regarding Elon Musk that precipitated everything.
Yesterday he gave me an eight minute long answer to
my question about his relationship with Elon Musk and the
prospects for the big beautiful bill passing in.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
The US Senate, and I was amazed.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
I have asked dozens upon dozens of questions to the
President over the course of his now two terms in
the White House, and I've never gotten an eight.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Minute long answer.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
And we saw the aftermath of that yesterday with the
blow up on social media between Trump and Elon Musk.
So where do we stand this morning, because it looks
like from the UK we get the report from Daily
Mail that there's going to be a call today between
Musk and Trump, that Musk is reaching out with an
olive branch. This is a very embarrassing, sad or stupid
public fight for everyone to witness. And then John don't
(34:33):
know how it is and you're around where you grew up.
But in an Italian families, fights like this happen. Everybody
takes a side, then the two that were fighting makeup,
and then everybody else is left holding the dysfunctional bag.
Can this be repaired?
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Oh? Absolutely? You know, you know the President.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
Has the ability to look past these types of things.
I just look at every day when I see the
President next to Mark Rubio, the Secretary of State, as
a perfect example of that. Think about how personal things
got between Mark Rubio and Donald Mark twenty sixteen and
now Mark Rubio is one of the president's closest to
allies in his cabinet and serves as the Secretary of State.
(35:11):
But as the President said yesterday, he likes this phrase.
I like this phrase. It takes two to tango. So
the President may be able to get past this.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
So the question is, can Elon Musk.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Get past this? Well, time will tell and you'll be
there to witness it and we'll break it down together.
Have a great weekend. Sure did miss you this week.
I'll talk to you again on Monday. We're all in
this together.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
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Speaker 2 (00:25):
We're in liten.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
This is your morning show with Michael O'dillchoman. Yeah, and
it's our job to make sense of all this. You know,
I leave town on business for thirty six hours and
all now you know what, I have to.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Break out records.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
We may have an update for you. They may be
reunited already. They're going to have talked today out of Brench
for me. Love watch these two makeup and then the
rest of the country is still on Team Musk Team Trump.
Is this stupid? Is this manufactured? Is it real? Childish? Immature,
(01:08):
sinful nature being played out for all to see there
No matter how you cut it, it's sad. We'll have
more on that with David Sanadi in a moment. First,
I can tell you one person who didn't miss me
while I was gone, Rory O'Neill. Rory, good to have
you back, all right, all right?
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Was that you.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
I was on a golf course and Paul Beach and
some guys in a shrump with a gun try to
take somebody out. It was you. I knew it was course, No,
all right. So we all know Joe Biden. There's no
question Joe had problems at his age, let alone. How
was he going to do a second term? But he
was the oldest person ever to hold office. That's obvious.
(01:47):
Donald Trump's not far behind them. But they're living proof
that you can be in two completely different conditions. Many
of those leading in government are well past retirement age.
We talk about that in the Senate. In the House,
they don't leave until the coroner arrives. You can look
at an age in Congress where more members are over
the age of seventy than before. I would imagine there's
more over the age of ninety than ever before, and
(02:08):
more over the age of ninety to five than ever before.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
We've got fourteen octagenarians just in the House, fourteen wow,
five and five in the Senate, including ninety one year
old Chuck Grassley from Iowa.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
All right, so what does all this mean? Is there
anything coming?
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Well, and that's the thing, like, well, there is one
gen Z member of Congress, Maxwell Frost, a Democrat from Orlando,
is the only gen Z member right now.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
And look, it wasn't always like this.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
I think back in the eighties, the median age of Congress,
you know, used to be much much lower. What was
it nineteen eighty one, thirty seven percent of House and
Senate members were younger than forty five. Right now it's
sixteen percent. So thirty five now it's sixteen percent. Do
you ever have that jaw.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Dropping experience when you're studying history and you're reading the
eloquent words of doesn't matter who, Jefferson, Why? And then
then you see the ages, right, and you're like, are
you kidding me? Tospay, you were only this These were kids.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Yeah, Jefferson was not even thirty or about thirty when
he wrote the declaration?
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Right?
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Can you believe that?
Speaker 5 (03:19):
You know?
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Now? But I'm one of the few people that's suspicious.
This is a symptom of a disengaged citizenry where if
you're really involved issue by issue, because remember, this is
a government of formed by the people, so we're in
charge and we should be watching these people even after
we elect them, hold them accountable. But we don't. And
so somebody comes along and becomes your congressman, and that's
(03:42):
the only name you know, and every time when you
show up to vote, you just keep sending them back.
Nobody's even keeping track of what they're doing. I don't think.
I don't. I think term limits is a big thing
we've got to get to. I think it's killing us.
But this is on the people. They're there because the
people keep sending them there expect a different result. That's insanity.
But I'll tell you there's a side of me that goes,
(04:03):
why don't they go home? I mean, we have one
that's getting ready to maybe run for governor from the Senate,
I'm like, why wouldn't you go home and be a grandma.
Why wouldn't you go home and sad those last years
with your husband? So I don't know, it's on all sides,
but people often forget the citizen. It's a proven citizen
re failure as well. Well, And let me just leave
you this quick fact.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
As agent as ancient as congresses, the state housers are
actually worse. The average age in the Congress is fifty four.
The average age of a governor in this country is
sixty one.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
'reor He's going to be back in the third hour
to talk about the It got lost in the fight
between Musk and Trump, But there was the big story
that would have been Joe Biden's former Press secretary, Karin
Jean Pierre leaving the Democrat Party Royal. Have more on
that in the third hour.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
All right.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
David Zanati is the CEO of the American Policy Roundtable.
He's the host of the Public Square, so our senior
contributor here at your morning show. When I landed last
night and I saw the tweet, the X I still
say tweet, the ex post from Elon Musk basically saying, oh,
and you won't see anything on this investigation in Epstein ever,
(05:15):
because Trump's buried in a boom there. I said it.
I thought, well, this has gotten completely out of control.
I wanted just for those that are listening, there's been
an olive branch from Elon. They're supposed to talk. I
think the Italian scenario is going to play out where
these two had a very immature public fight for everyone
to hear, which if it wasn't done on purpose, it
(05:35):
was stupid and in the matrix, those things are hard
to repair no matter how you cut it. It's sad.
No matter how you cut it, it's stupid. I don't
know how you repair it. It was a momentum killer
from the jaws of victory. We grabbed a feed all
those nonsensical things. But David, what do you make of it?
I'm I would have to I would have to pick
(05:56):
the one word sad. Sad and stupid, one of the two.
All right, before we go there. You just killed it
with Rory, all right on the age question. Yeah, so
look here is Jeffrey read Take a look. You see
all this papers, see all these pages.
Speaker 6 (06:09):
This is a book that we were about to send
to the printer on a speech made by a seventy
year old member of Congress in eighteen thirty seven, whose
name was John Quincy Adams.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Oh, the son of John Adams. That's one of my favorites.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Tize of this man. Script all right, he was.
Speaker 6 (06:29):
Seventy years old in serving in the United States Congress
after being president President of the United States. Let me
tell you something. Seven years old, this guy had something
to say.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Well, I wanted to say two things. One, you will
find no one, in fact, the only other person on
earth that studied George Washington better was probably one of
your greatest interviews and favorite interviews. But you'll find no
one with a greater appreciation for George Washington than David Sonati.
But I'll tell you right under him, people go to
(07:01):
Lincoln and others and forget John Quincy, Adamson Ferries. But
he had one of my greatest quotes. And I'll tell
you we're living it right now. And I don't ever
shove religion down people's throat, but he just said. All
I'll say is this republic is altogether wrong for an
immoral people. That's the real breakdown. Until we get right
with God and what is right and what is wrong,
(07:24):
this republic will never function. Well, that's what the Common
Denominator he found himself coming to. He was a brilliant
mind and a brilliant example, amazing patriot.
Speaker 6 (07:34):
And amazing servant. So we're going to be doing much
much war about that on the public square. But I
just the point of what you're talking about is at
seventy he was really but this guy was a dynamo,
an unbelievable mind. This guy served in the administration of
George Washington as a kid, and he served in Congress
with Abraham Lincoln. He's the only person that spans the
(07:57):
first to the sixteenth president, so his point of view.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Probably is pretty pretty relevant.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Yeah, thank you, thank the fine things.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
But thank you're the only other person I know that
have plucked this guy out. I mean, every American alive
today should be studying him.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Go ahead, So, so to the question that.
Speaker 6 (08:14):
We have now that the big boy, you are right
to talk about changing all of the news cycles, talk
about this disgustingly gutting momentum, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. Okay, two
things about this. Guess what. Elon Musk and Donald Trump
are sinners, just like all the rest of us, and
they can lose their minds, and they can make big mistakes,
(08:36):
and they can say him out loud. And by the way,
they're also two rich white billionaires. And I'm going to
tell you something, friends, that is a dangerous equation because
I'm sorry, but it's when it gets down to it.
When you've been a billionaire for a long time, you
just lose context of consequence and sometimes what you say
because there's always someone standing nearby to write a check
(08:58):
to fix what you broke, or to send a letter apologizing.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
You're just not used to having those kind of dialogues.
Speaker 6 (09:04):
So the clash of the Titans, while they didn't do
it on a phone, no incredible.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
You know what, Michael, there's an interesting lesson. You and
I have spent a lot of time.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Yes we have.
Speaker 6 (09:17):
We spent a lot of time talking about and I
am as guilty as you get us.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Back in the podcast business, all right.
Speaker 6 (09:24):
I was guilty as any other human in the world
of wishing I had done better or saying exactly the right.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Thing at exactly the wrong time.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
That all being set, there is a bigger reason for
this blow up that would be really smart for us
to take a look at. And you're not going to
hear anywhere else, not because we're unique, but because nobody
else wants to talk about it. Donald Trump has set
unreasonable expectations, as has Elon Musk set unreasonable expectations, and
(09:53):
those unreasonable expectations infect the mindset of all of us
that are watching this process us. You can't move anything
through the United States Congress unless you have sixty votes
in the Senate.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
That means you can't pass a good idea or a bad,
bad idea.
Speaker 6 (10:12):
And they're therefore the problem with all of this is
that you have got to have patience. It's going to
take four budgets to get to the kind of reform
that they're trying to put together.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
But they didn't sell it in four budgets. They sold
it in.
Speaker 6 (10:29):
One big, beautiful, beautiful bill and stupid.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
It doesn't work that way.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Do you think because I thought this? Do you think
Elon Musk thought it was going to be as simple
as I'm Elon Musk. I'm working closely with the president.
We've identified waste and fraud. Now let's get on too
fixing this spending problem. And he just thought they could
do it without without Senate approval because they didn't. You know,
(10:59):
you're not going to cut trillions of dollars without a
lot of senators and you're not going to do a
bill that ends up the way he started it. So
I mean, I know I must get a temper tantrum.
These people don't get I worked so hard to cut
all this betting, and then this thing is just filled
with a bunch of pork. They ought to be ashamed
of themselves. Well, that's not understand What you're suggesting is
he didn't understand the.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Process, thank you, sir.
Speaker 6 (11:21):
And when you multiply that process by an aged population
that has grown incredibly wealthy as career politicians being their thirty,
forty and fifty years making a boatload of money, walking
in moderately wealthy, walking out richer than imagination, and being
toe tagged in the process.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
They love cloture.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
They love the fact you can't get anything done with
sixty because that makes all of them exponentially more important
than anybody else. And we don't run a presidential campaign explaining,
by the way, every promise that I'm making you right
now depends on whether or not we have sixty votes
on the Senate disclaimer, we.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Had to pass like a tobacco.
Speaker 6 (11:56):
Of warning on every political commercial that's said warning, this
is only applicable if we.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Have sixty votes in the Senate, because it doesn't work.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
David'sonati joining us, our senior contributor. We've used to emphasize
this all the time. But we have new cities, new
listeners all the time. The reality is never lose sight
of the Club of one hundred. And let me tell
you something. The Club of one hundred never turn on
each other. Oh they'll play games just like you just
saw yesterday on CNN and MSNBC, but they're the ones
(12:27):
having scotch afterwards. And if one turns on the other,
standard the Club of one hundred the United States Senate,
that's the secret society right in plain view.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Yep, it's right there.
Speaker 6 (12:39):
The conspiracy is there, and it's the leadership of that
group that is so powerful you want to don't know
while they all have that same quiet smirk on their
face as they know. They know you can say anything
in the news, anything in the news cycle, but at
the end of the day, it's going to get behind
closed doors.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
And how does that work with a budget. Well, I've
got to have all these votes for the.
Speaker 6 (12:57):
Budget and I can only go a little tiny bit
too reconsile.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
So what are you going to give me to get
my votes? It's a mob rule.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Well, I remember the name itself, and I think I'm
one of the only ones that kept pointing to this
and It's like I was cracking a joke that nobody got.
How do you have a big beautiful bill? How do
big and beautiful end up next to each other?
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Yeah, you sound like Elon right there.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
He picked that out pretty quick.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Well yeah, I mean well, my brother calls me, He goes, Moke,
what's going on with these two? I gotta tell? And
he went team Musk immediately, And you see all my
instincts are team Musk. I'm serious when I whip this
out all the time. This is the stuff I would do,
And it wouldn't matter who's president, wouldn't matter who makes
up the club of one hundred, doesn't matter who your
(13:41):
congressman is. This thing would be on autopilot. A zero based,
prioritized balanced budget, no continuing resolutions. The budget is set,
it is law, you can't overspend it, and the budget
is tied to the two year cycle of the legislature
in the House, a flat or fair at tax, so
everyone has skin in the game. Term limits for all politicians,
(14:01):
only paper in person voting. You do that. This whole
thing is on autopilot, and you don't have any of
this nonsense. So when I start calling balls and strikes.
I'm kind of Elon, except you don't do this in public.
You say this in private. But that goes back to
what I want to conclude with when we come back,
which is you and I talked about a fight between
Bascent and Elon Musk two weeks ago, and everybody thought
(14:23):
we were manufacturing something out of thin air. And then
it looked like we were stupid because they swept it
under the rug, but it didn't hold.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
It's your Morning show with Michael del Chno.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
I want to get this in real quick. We're visiting
with David Sinaudi, our senior contributor. Obviously the Trump Musk
fight and it may be coming to an end. They
may reunite. We talked about I think it's going on
two weeks ago, a fight between Bacent and Musk, f
wards flying mostly from Bassent. Musk storms off, and we said, hey,
(14:55):
something's going on and Musk is gone, then all is
quiet for a couple of days. Trump does the formal
goodbye with Musk from the Oval office. But there might
be something to this. This is a guy that's made
a lot of billions for sorrows and been probably made
a lot of money off of sorows he backed Clinton,
how do you end up in this administration? And is
persent the lost peace in this whole fight that we're watching.
Speaker 6 (15:20):
Yeah, somebody's got to deal with that one, because it's
there and it's in plain sight.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
In the Atlantic seems to be the only one having
any fun with it.
Speaker 6 (15:27):
And I'm not suggesting it's funny or it's a toy,
but they definitely are using it to advantage.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Which, by the way, if you've.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Oh their article this morning, I read it and it's
I read it on the air before you came on. Yeah,
they couldn't have hopped on this better. Yeah, and you
know how Feth must have been smiling, fingers plugging. They
were loving this story.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
They were having a blast with it.
Speaker 6 (15:47):
And and uh and of course it's like the great
we told you so.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Well, you know what, probably.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Right is percent the Fauci of this administration, because Fauci
was a well that's on objay. That did it, that
solidified David into overtime. This is Andy Hickson, formerly of Nashville,
now living in Detroit, Michigan.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Thanks to iHeartRadio.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
My morning show is your morning show. Hi, I'm Michael
del Jno and your morning show can be heard live
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(16:38):
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But we're glad you're here now, enjoyed the podcast honor
to serve you. I'm Michael del Jono in this is
your Morning Show? Well here were the headlines starting the morning.
President Trump and Elon Musk spent much of Thursday engage
in a very public war of words. Yeah, I mean,
Musk was saying im beachment. You won't see anything on
(16:59):
the epsteins Now, huh, that's because Trump's in him. Then
must says he'll have his company SpaceX decommission the Dragon spacecraft.
A top Trump supporter, Steve Bannon, calling for President to
investigate Elon Musk, as members of Congress did the same. See,
that's the divided nature of our culture. We live in
(17:20):
a matrix, and everyone will take an immediate passionate position.
Now you're either Donald Trump is great and Elon's a
crazy nut. Or Musk is right that Bill's too fat.
I'm disappointed in Trump. Meanwhile, two people are acting immaturely
and you're picking a side. And guess what. None of
(17:43):
this is productive for our future or our children's future.
If it's real, it's sad. If it's a stunt, it's stupid.
But then no sooner does that happen, And it looks
like be making up. Musk offers stunning olive branch to
(18:05):
Trump as romance desinigrates.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
It threatens to rip Meck apart.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
But now they're reunited. I can't Beaches and her cooperate
and beyond the chorus when I need them to be.
David Sinat, he's our senior contributor, he's joining us.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
You know.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
I brought something up that we talked about two weeks
ago on the air, and I don't know anybody else
not to play that game. Who cares. But I didn't
hear anybody else talk about it so much, so I
started thinking, well, maybe we're reading this wrong, Maybe maybe
we're we should just be ignoring this. But there was
a big fight between Secretary Percent and Elon Musk, a
(18:45):
lot of f bombs thrown mostly by Percent, and must
stormed off, and I said, wait a minute, if they're
in a fight, why is anybody talking about David immediately
does some research. Of course, we find out that Percent
was doing major deals with George Sorow's billion dollar deals.
He was a supporter of Clinton. Then we were like, well,
(19:06):
how did acent end up in this? And we remember
Fauci did in Trump one believing Fauci. Fauci pulled him
into an office and said, two million will be dead
by easter unless you shut this government down and shut
this economy down, and send everybody home and send them
checks to keep them home. And of course it was
all based on ridiculous assumptions because they didn't have actual
(19:27):
data in these projections, but scared Trump Trump did it.
It destroyed the America he made great and probably did
him in in the next election, along with a lot
of weaponization of COVID and fraud. Still, nobody goes to
jail for anything, and everybody's got pardons with an auto
pen So we'll put that aside for a second. But
(19:47):
here's the bottom line. It and I asked this question.
It sent us into overtime is percent the fauci of
Trump two point zero second term? Because that Donald Trump
does a lot of things right, but he always seems
to have an achilles that you know, is exposed, and
maybe percent is that one? How much of this fight
(20:09):
with Donald Trump and Elon musk Issent related?
Speaker 6 (20:16):
The cringe factor on the first question is such that
millions of people across the country are now touching the
back of their neck with the children. Do you even
have to put that in the equation? That's a scary question.
It's an insightful question, and it's one that I hope
that the chief of Staff, missus Wiles, is thinking about.
(20:37):
I don't know if she shouldn't just basically come out
of the office and grab the two of these people
and smack them up the side of the head.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Wait wait, wait, time out. Why First of all, Pat
Summerl's daughter, who is the chief of staff, is one
of the most brilliant, powerful women. When we started this,
I looked at David when he made that choice, and
I said, all right, now we're talking Trump two point zero.
Because all the things that fool Trump and Trump one
(21:02):
point zero, or all the people that had access to
him or even his dangerous aspects of his personality out
of control that were a detriment to him. None of
that's going to happen because she'll control all that. How
do this fight happened with her on the watch?
Speaker 6 (21:15):
Well, that's a very good question, and that's if I'm
scanning news sources right now. It's kind of funny because
you've obviously got a story source that says that an
olive bet branch has been extended. All I can see
is like five hundred media outlets trying as fast as
they can to write about the ringside match, and you're
saying that it's possible somebody's already throwing in the towel,
(21:36):
which makes me wonder if the chief of staff is
behind the scenes making a few phone calls.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
David, I never start in America, because in America journalism
is dead. I always have to go across the pond
to find out what's really happening. So it's the Daily
Mail and about five correspondents that have put together the
story that Elon Musk attempted to de escalate his spiraling
feud with Donald Trump last night as the White House
aides organized crisis call between the warring billionaires the romance
(22:03):
between the world's richest and most powerful men was in
tatters on Thursday, and Musk calling for Trump's impeachment, dropping
the bomb on the Epstein files and the reason you
won't know much about them, but it looks as though
they're going to have a call today and they're going
to work this out. But you and I are Italian.
We've seen this a million times. Right, Two people get
(22:24):
in a fight, everybody takes sides, then they make up,
and then everybody that took a side is the one
left looking like the dysfunctional idiots of gang Wars. Okay,
the bascent. What is his role in this, Well, his role.
Speaker 6 (22:39):
Is an odd one because Donald Trump is not a
stranger to Wall Street or how it operates, or how
to profit.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
From Wall Street and lose money in Wall Street.
Speaker 6 (22:46):
Acent is a I guess he's kind of a poster
child for what it looks like to be an elitist
in the world of.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
The stock exchange and the stock markets.
Speaker 6 (22:56):
And he has worked on two occasions, for a period
of years on some of the biggest deals, working directly
for George Soros and for his management company. So this
guy is not coming out of the Heritage Foundation today
and his worldview and his perspective are completely different from
(23:17):
Donald Trump. So Donald Trump brought him in for a reason.
Whether he's a human shield in the administration against other
media people attacking Trump for being monolithic and only hiring
people from Fox News, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
All I know is that.
Speaker 6 (23:33):
It's widely reported and documented across the media that there
was a highly verbal physical argument outside the Oval office
that was heard, and according to the Atlantic, they had
at least fourteen leak sources confirm on their story that
they reported that this was a completely out of control alternate.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
And we've seen that play out right. Dan Elon Musk
is really mad at percent, really doesn't trust and then
he wants he wants Donald Trump to take his side,
and Trump doesn't, and then it turns ugly in a
tantrum towards Trump. See. I think that's what's really happening now.
Why these are powerful people that should understand the American
(24:14):
matrix in our culture and political realities have fallen for
this and done this for everyone to see. I'll never
have an explanation other than sad and stupid.
Speaker 6 (24:24):
But one of the lines that came out from the league.
Was that Musk quite insightful? He said, the percent, what
have you ever done except work for Sorows.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
And make him money? That's kind of the quote, what
have you ever done except been been a manager for Sorows?
Speaker 6 (24:43):
Now, okay, let's not pretend for one second that Elon
Musk doesn't know who George Sorows is and what he
does and the percent doesn't as well.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Question is, how does Donald Trump square those My brother
Vic and I circle those squares?
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Yeah, my brother Vic and I always used to like
to all through childhood we would do this, you know,
we'd be observing all these adult fights, and then we
would use a hook of a song to just kind
of summarize the reality that they can't seem to see.
In this case, if this is a stunt, you know,
playing chess with people observing checkers, they misread culture that
(25:27):
will be divided and take a clear side in this.
In other words, Elon Musk and Donald Trump could make
up today, but half this country is not going to
move on that quickly and make up. So the song
we would have chosen on that one is oo. The
damage is done. So let me ask you they patch
things up, do we gain minim do we get back
(25:49):
on to it. I mean, how how do you repair yesterday?
Or is the damage done for the American people not them?
Speaker 6 (25:57):
Yeah, the momentum was the spirit behind Doge, which was
a spirit in my opinion, of awareness, of reckoning, even
of repentance, of saying, look, spending is our problem, and
we've got to start in the house, and we've got
in our own household. We've got to start inside this
government and begin to understand we've got to set the
(26:20):
trends on spending reductions. Now, if you listen to watch it,
because you some of these people are guests on your show,
I got to be careful if you listen to some
historic Oh you're talking about go ahead.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Newt last night on Fox.
Speaker 6 (26:37):
He's kind of smiling and saying, gee, you just don't
understand how it all works, and blah blah blah blah
blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Mister speaker.
Speaker 6 (26:44):
Yes, you indeed were the speaker over the last balanced
budget in a century in nineteen ninety four. Okay, that's true,
all right, So why don't we have some of that
strategy today?
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Because you don't have the votes in the Senate, you're
not even close to the votes in the Senate.
Speaker 6 (27:00):
So we've got to reset expectations so that people can
understand this is going to take time, Michael to get
what Doge wants to accomplish.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Who's going to take ten years. We have annual budgets.
Speaker 6 (27:13):
I mean, when you have an annual budget at the
size of five trillion dollars, how do you get through
that in twelve months?
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Let me let me bring us to a crashing close,
because the clock says we have to a lot of
people turn the radio on and say, if they're fans
of the show, I want to hear what Michael and
David have to say about this, and the bottom line
is it's sad. But remember percent that's a part of this.
(27:40):
And if you don't get that, you don't get what's happening.
Remember the Club of one hundred, because if you don't
get that, you don't get what's happening. And don't lose
sight of billionaires who are also centers just like you
and I. But making the big mistake of showing it
for all to see. Now how to repair and get
(28:02):
back on course? I don't know. Time will tell, but David,
your insights have been invaluable. Have a great weekend, thanks Michael,
and I hate these I hate these times of the
year when we're states away from each other. But I'll
pretend we're going golfing later today and I'll cheer up.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Work for today.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Jeffreyiations patience, patience, patience. Everyone. Well, if you're just waking up, obviously,
there's one top story. President Trump and Elon Musk gott
a big war of words for all of us to
read and hear and see.
Speaker 7 (28:35):
Trump was asked about Musk's criticism of The Big Beautiful Bill.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
My White House correspondent John Decker and I.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Asked the President this question for his reaction to what
Elon Musk had been posting on social media this week,
and he gave me an eight minute long answer.
Speaker 7 (28:51):
Trump told Decker he doesn't know if he and Musk
will continue to have a great relationship. After that, an
online war of words erupted between the two men.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Trump said he asked Musk to leave his administration.
Speaker 7 (29:01):
Trump said Musk was upset he was ending the ev mandate,
which will cause Musk billions.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
I'm Mark Mayfield.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Well. Republicans on the House Oversight Committee have shot down
any attempt by the panel's Democrats to jump on this
in subpoena elon Musk, Democratic.
Speaker 5 (29:15):
Members of the Oversight Committee say they want answers about
Musk's short stints in the administration. Acting top Democrat on
the panel, Stephen Lynch, says, Musk may say he stepped
away from his role in the federal government, but his
recklessness will continue to have devastating consequences for America for years.
Republicans on the panel suspended the hearing to give their
colleagues more time to arrive and vote down the measure.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
I'm Scott Carr in Washington. Meanwhile, muss says that he
he'll have his company SpaceX decommissioned the Dragon spacecraft immediately.
Speaker 8 (29:46):
The billionaire's post on X Thursday came amid a war
of words with President Trump. Musk's post came minutes after
Trump threatened to cancel government contracts with Musk's companies. Their
online flab intensified after Musk criticized the so called Big
Beautiful Bill that Trump's been pushing. The Dragon is the
only spacecraft being used to transport crew to and from
the International Space Station. I'm Tammy triho.
Speaker 7 (30:10):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
I know they're not. What were the ones you saw
the kiss Mini kiss Simon, the kiss yeah, Mini kiss Yeah.
Those are the short people that do kiss. While Nick
Jonas is set to play Kiss frontman Paul Stanley in
the upcoming biopic about the band Can This Be As
Good as Bohemian Rhapsody? Deadline reports Nick will go through
some vocal training to nail Stanley's voice. The film, entitled
(30:31):
Shout It Out Loud, is projected to go into production
by the end of this year or early next year.
There's no word on when it will be released and
who will be cast to play Gene Simmons will The
first full moon of the summer season will arrive next
week Breed Tennis with the tails on the arrival of
what we call the Strawberry Moon.
Speaker 9 (30:53):
NASA says the Strawberry Moon will be visible in the
night sky on June eleventh, with peak moon viewing just
before one am Pacific time. Despite its name, the moon
will not be pink, but it will look larger and
brighter than usual. That's called the moon illusion, and it's
due to the moon's low position in the sky that
makes it appear larger and do take a peek. Legend
(31:13):
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Speaker 8 (31:17):
I'm bree tennis.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
I woke up a little bit in a bad mood.
By one point. The Indiana Pacers took Game one on
the road in Oklahoma City over the thunder ten one eleven,
one ten. They now lead one game to nothing. Game
two coming up Sunday night in Oklahoma City. And that's
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Speaker 2 (33:02):
This is your Morning Show with Michael del Chona.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Well you know what played out yesterday? President Trump and
Elon Musk Mosku spent most of the day engaged in
a very public war of words. I was about to
board a plane when Musk was calling for the impeachment
of the president. By the time I landed, he had
brought up the Epstein files. A little bit in between
I was texting from the airplane Michael force One with
(33:29):
John Decker, who was in the Oval Office witnessing all this. First,
what a crazy day? May you live in interesting times?
John Decker and you two.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Well, not only was I witnessing it, it was my question,
yeah to the President regarding Elon Musk that precipitated everything.
Yesterday he gave me an eight minute long answer to
my question about his relationship with Elon Musk and the
prospects for the big beautiful bill passing in.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
The US Senate, and I was amazed.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
I have asked dozens upon dozens of questions to the
President over the course of his now two terms in
the White House, and I've never gotten an eight.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Minute long answer.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
And we saw the aftermath of that yesterday with the
blow up on social media between Trump and Elon Musk.
So where do we stand this morning, because it looks
like from the UK we get the report from Daily
Mail that there's going to be a call today between
Musk and Trump, that Musk is reaching out with an
olive branch. This is a very embarrassing, sad or stupid
public fight for everyone to witness. And then John don't
(34:33):
know how it is and you're around where you grew up.
But in an Italian families, fights like this happen. Everybody
takes a side, then the two that were fighting makeup,
and then everybody else is left holding the dysfunctional bag.
Can this be repaired?
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Oh? Absolutely? You know, you know the President.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
Has the ability to look past these types of things.
I just look at every day when I see the
President next to Mark Rubio, the Secretary of State, as
a perfect example of that. Think about how personal things
got between Mark Rubio and Donald Mark twenty sixteen and
now Mark Rubio is one of the president's closest to
allies in his cabinet and serves as the Secretary of State.
(35:11):
But as the President said yesterday, he likes this phrase.
I like this phrase. It takes two to tango. So
the President may be able to get past this.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
So the question is, can Elon Musk.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Get past this? Well, time will tell and you'll be
there to witness it and we'll break it down together.
Have a great weekend. Sure did miss you this week.
I'll talk to you again on Monday. We're all in
this together.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
This is your Morning Show with Michael ndheld Choo
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