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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:37):
Welcome to the show on this Wednesday, June twelfth, I'm
Ryan Gorman with Dana McKay and we're live on airon
on your iHeartRadio app. Coming up this hour, we're going
to talk to News Nation legal analyst Jesse Weber about
the Hunter Biden guilty verdict. We'll do that in about
a half hour plus. New forecasting for the presidential race
was released from five point thirty eight. We're going to

(00:57):
tell you what their initial predictions are. Right now for
some of the biggest stories making news this morning, let's
bring in our national correspondent Rory O'Neil and Rory. I
got the sense yesterday when we were talking about the
Hunter Biden trial that you you doubted my prediction for
the outcome of the trial. When I said I thought
the most likely option was that he would be convicted,

(01:21):
you questioned that, first of all, how dare you question
on my passions.

Speaker 4 (01:26):
We can't all just be sicker fans agreeing with you.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
That's so, that's exactly what happened. Convicted on all counts, right,
relatively quickly. I think that's what really surprised me. There
were three charges in the case, three federal gun related charges,
and the jury deliberated for about three hours over two days,
and came back with those three guilty verdicts.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
That tease up what's next, says about one hundred and
twenty days typically from conviction to sentencing. Unfortunately, that puts
us right into October, just before the and at a
time when Hunter may already be on trial for tax
charges out of California.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
Yeah, the problems don't stop for Hunter Biden. I thought
this was a pretty simple case. And despite the fact
that when you talk to really legal analysts both that
maybe lean a little more to the left, leaning a
little more to the right, like a Trey Gouti, for
instance on Fox News. Most of them say that this

(02:28):
kind of case typically would not be brought forward in
the manner this one was. Usually when you charge someone
with these specific crimes, the lying on the forum, the
having firearm while you're an addict, that that is tied
to another crime that was committed with a gun. But
putting that aside for a second, just the facts of

(02:50):
this case, it seemed pretty clear and simple. And the
argument the defense was trying to make that in that
moment when he was filling out the form, he didn't
consider himself an addict. I mean, that just doesn't pass
the common sense test. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (03:06):
The jury had no patience for that argument, according to
the couple of jurors who have spoken publicly. Also heard
from a couple of jurors who said this should not
have been prosecuted, like, why were we here? This was
a waste of money. As you said, typically these kinds
of charges aren't prosecuted unless the gun has been used
in a crime. This one was not because Hunter Biden
had it for only about eleven days, and so even

(03:28):
some of the jurors were like, why are we here?
This seems like a waste of money.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
Right now. The jurors did say that one of the
big problems for Hunter Biden in this trial was all
the witnesses his women, I mean, whether it was his
ex wife, Yeah, Kathleen Buell or Hallie Biden. That testimony
hit them really hard. It sounded like, especially the fact
that he got her hooked on crack, right, and then

(03:55):
you add in the daughter, Naomi Biden, who the defense called,
and that seemed to really backfire on them.

Speaker 4 (04:04):
Well, right, and then don't forget the rebuttal witness from
the FBI presented some of those text messages that also
showed Hunter was trying to get cracked two days before
the gun purchase. So that also really was a critical
blow to the defense case in this. So now the
question is the sentencing in terms of such a wide range,

(04:25):
as you said, typically this case isn't even prosecuted.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
So where do we go?

Speaker 4 (04:30):
Is it a suspended sentence, a weekend thing, is it
ten years in prison? Where do we go from here
is the big question.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
Yeah, it's not going to be years in prison. I'd
be shocked by that. And this number that you keep
seeing in the headlines up to twenty five years. I mean,
that's just not going to be the case. But prison
time some certainly isn't off the table, and that will come. Plus,
like you mentioned, he's got the tax case that he'll

(04:57):
be dealing with in a couple of months. This could
impact that in the sense that now he is a
convicted felon and if he were to be convicted in
that case and sentence, the judge could take that into consideration.
So again, we'll see where all of this goes. But
obviously not good news for Hunter Biden yesterday. And we're

(05:18):
gonna have more on this, including some legal analysis of
the verdict, coming up in just a bit. Right now,
let's get to another story you're covering this morning. Apparently
there's been a big shift in how people do their
grocery shopping.

Speaker 4 (05:30):
Yeah, have you noticed this that it's not one stop
shopping anymore. We used to go to the supermarket get
everything we need, and that was it. But now, oh,
let's go to Costco. We'll get some of those cheap
rotisserie chickens. Okay, there's the sushi place. Let's go pick
up some sushi for this week. Or maybe it's let's
go to the big box store for paper towels and
laundry detergents. So it seems now that we're getting out

(05:52):
of the old ways of just hitting the one big
supermarket and now going from specialty store to specialty store
more than that.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Yeah, I mean I go to one store. You know,
they got the really good subs, and I'll get that
and a few things there, and then sometimes I'll order
some stuff that I don't feel like carrying, you know,
through Amazon. And then you know, my fancy eggs. We've
talked about this before, Wory. I like the the eggs
where my chickens can roam free. They have one hundred

(06:21):
and eight square feet of space.

Speaker 5 (06:23):
I apparently like my eggs broken because I can't stop
doing grocery delivery and.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
They always break my eggs.

Speaker 5 (06:28):
Yes, but I can't stop doing it because I'm too
lazy and I don't want to go in the store anymore.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
Right, And to get my special bougie eggs, I have
to go to a different store for that. So I
totally fit right in with this study and with this
new way of shopping.

Speaker 4 (06:42):
Yeah, I just take Yeah, it's eggs, let's go. Really,
you notice the difference on the eggs.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
No, no, I don't. I don't notice the difference. I
just feel better about the fact that my chickens.

Speaker 5 (06:50):
They live very concerned about chicken.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
Yeah, they live their best life before I have them,
as you know, buffalo wings or something like that.

Speaker 4 (07:00):
It's certain, are you big it covered?

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I'm very concerned for their welfare until
I have that chicken sandwich and then you know, all
bets are off. Rory O'Neil, our national correspondent with US
this morning, Rory really appreciated. Thanks so much. Thanks Ryan.
All Right, I want to get to this news release
that came out yesterday from five thirty eight. That is
the site if you're not familiar with it, that does

(07:25):
election forecasting and analysis. It's very data driven, and it
released its first forecast for the upcoming presidential election. Now
this is not a poll, but they take a bunch
of the polling that we've been seeing into account as
part of their modeling and this forecast. So it says

(07:48):
here in their report, twenty twenty four presidential election starts
out in our forecast as a toss up, while former
President Donald Trump has a lead in most key swing states,
close enough that a small amount of movement or the
polls being a little too favorable to Republicans could result
in President Joe Biden's reelection. Right now, according to their modeling,

(08:11):
Biden is favored to win in five hundred and twenty
two out of one thousand simulations of how the election
could go. So they run these simulations, Trump wins in
four hundred and seventy four of their simulations. In four simulations,
no candidate wins a majority of the electoral college vote,
which would then throw the election to the House of Representatives.

(08:31):
Can you imagine if that happens. I'm sure the country
will act in a very calm, cool, collected manner if
that were to be the case. So, the chance of
winning Biden they have at fifty three percent, trumpet forty
seven percent. That's not a poll, that's according to their modeling,
the chance of each of them winning. And for electoral
votes they have Biden at two seventy six Trump at

(08:51):
two sixty two. Now, when I do my map, and
you can go to a two seventy to win dot
com and you can you can make your own electoral
college map. When I do my map, I've got Joe
Biden at two twenty six right now, and Trump at
two sixty eight with Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania as toss ups.
Have no idea which way they're going to go, but
I have Trump in the lead in Georgia, Arizona, Nevada.

(09:15):
I mean, the polling has been pretty consistent there. Obviously
you take all of that with the grand of salt,
but again I maintain that if Trump picks off one
of those states Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, that's ballgame in this election.
So five point thirty eight releasing their first presidential race forecast.
When we come back a little bit later on this hour,

(09:38):
we're going to get some legal analysis of the Hunter
Biden guilty verdicts, So make sure you stick around for that.
I'm Ryan Gorman with Dana McKay in for Michael del
Joorno this weekend. Right now, let's get to a trending story,
a big get for the Fox new Streaming Service.

Speaker 5 (09:53):
Yeah, Kevin Costner just got a new show on Fox Nation,
which is the Fox new streaming service. It's going to
be out early next year, and the show's off of
his popular twenty twenty two docu series called Yellowstone one fifty.
The service offers Hollywood stars a platform for their passion
projects about faith, outdoor living, true crime, and stuff like that,
targeting to Americans in the middle of the country. Now,

(10:15):
Kevin Costner's independent movie Horizon cost one hundred million dollars
to make and it only made about twelve million when
it opened in theaters last week.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
Wow, I'm not good at math. But that doesn't seem
doesn't seem good?

Speaker 5 (10:27):
Well, people are mad at him because he's not finishing Yellowstone.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
That's the thing. I don't care about some Fox Nation
series or something. All I care about is is he
going to do the final few episodes of Yellowstone or not.
I don't think we have a straight answer on that.

Speaker 5 (10:41):
No, I don't think he is at this point, because
you know, they've been fighting over who's fault it is
between him and Taylor Sheridan, who created the show, and
I guess Taylor Sheridan has tried to blame Kevin Costner
all along, saying that he, you know, put a priority
on his other projects and refused to finish Yellowstone. But
now Kevin Costner is saying that Taylor Sheridan was so
busy making all those yellow.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
Stone spin off Yeah, pretty good.

Speaker 5 (11:04):
He didn't finish the scripts for the second half of
the Yellowstone season five and that's what caused all the delays,
and now Kevin Costner is just over it.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
How do you screw up the end of a show
that good? I mean, you've got to get it together,
get on the same page and just finish the show.
All we need is a couple more episodes. We don't need,
you know, a full season. Just give us like six
or eight really good episodes and wrap it up.

Speaker 5 (11:29):
Yeah, it's really ridiculous how they had such a huge
hit and they just cannot get it together. It really
is obnoxious, And I feel like people don't want to
deal with Kevin Costner's new movie because they're mad.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
I think you're right, and I'm not unless he is
part of that final few episodes of Yellowstone. I'm watching
this Fox Nation serious, Okay, I'm boycott.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
This is your morning show with Michael del Chona.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
Brian Gorman here with Dana McKay and Danny. You were
asking me during the break about that seventy to win website.

Speaker 5 (12:03):
Yeah, I think you're kind of a nerd because you're like, well, yeah,
on my electoral map. I put together what I think
is gonna happen to make your own. So, yeah, you
can make your own and it could be like when
people have brackets. Yeah, nerds like you can have their
electoral college map and then you can somehow win money.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
That's exactly right. It's like March Madness bracket. Everybody can
have their own electoral college map. No member madness. I
mean we turn politics into us sport these days anyway,
so why not add that in. All right, let's go
to the hotline now and bring in our national correspondent,
Aaron Real, with a couple of reports for us. Aaron,
thanks so much for joining us. So I want to
start with the impact that hidden charges are having on homeowners,

(12:43):
especially right now when everything is so much more expensive
and it all keeps adding up for so many families.

Speaker 6 (12:51):
Absolutely, and Ryan honored out with you. I think that
that's a great idea.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
Do you have your own electoral college map filled out?

Speaker 6 (12:58):
Aaron? I mean that, I have to be honest. That
sounds like a good time to me. I already wearing
party set up for June twenty seven, Like, yeah.

Speaker 5 (13:07):
We'll get some Ryan Gorman Show branded ones that people
can print out, Yes, that's a great idea, I love it.

Speaker 6 (13:13):
That'll be good, that's great AnyWho, homeownership cost. So we
know that there are a lot of hitting costs with homeownership.
A lot of people who are going from renting to
home ownership for the first time, they look at like
bent versus mortgage and they're like, ooh, which number is better.
Careful because the average homeownership hitting cost is now eighteen
thousand dollars a year. That is up from only fourteen

(13:36):
thousand dollars in twenty twenty. We're talking about everything from
property taxes, insurance, electricity, internet, cable, home maintenance. You need
to estimate about two percent a year of the value
of the home. So all in all, what we're looking
for at a typical single family home twenty six percent
higher than compared to four years ago. It's a big,

(13:57):
big jump. And it's important to remember that when you're
buying a house, you're buying a lot more than a
mortgage payment.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Yeah, and that's key because you know, oftentimes we look
at rent and we say it's kind of a waste,
you know, it's compared to home ownership and all of that.
But you do have to factor in some of those
hidden charges that you were just mentioning right now to
make sure that you can make your budget work for sure.

Speaker 6 (14:21):
And listen, you are building equity and home ownership is
a great way to accumulate wealth, and I get it,
and these there are all good arguments. But can you
afford it is also a very good argument because we
know that last year, twenty percent of folks who own
homes use credit cards to pay for stuff, seven percent refinance,
five percent used home equity a line of credit, So

(14:42):
essentially they're borrowing more money to sustain what they have,
So how much are you really ahead? And then forty
six percent of homeowners use cash from saving. So the
point I'm trying to illustrate here is that most people
didn't have the money on hand. That's not anyone's fault,
it's just the reality of the situation is that you're
looking at minimum six thousand dollars more a year in
cost than you were just four years ago.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
And maybe you could save some money if you could
do some of those projects around your house and fix
things yourself. But if you're like me and putting a
nail in the wall is a challenge you know.

Speaker 5 (15:15):
Good luck you end up screwing it up, costing more money.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
Yeah, exactly. All right, another story you're covering this morning, Aaron,
I want to get to this one. Trump came out
with a policy position that I'm going to be honest.
It could help him on the margins in the presidential
election for sure.

Speaker 6 (15:33):
So on Sunday in Nevada, it was his first rally
since that historic conviction in the New York hush money trial,
he said that he's going to do away with tips.
So I'm going to give you the quote he said,
hotel workers and people that get tips, you're going to
be very happy when I'm in office. We're going to
not charge taxes on tips.

Speaker 4 (15:51):
Okay.

Speaker 6 (15:51):
So Nevada is obviously a heavily tipped hospitality industry that
runs the state. One in four private sector workers are there.
This is a great campaign promise. But here's the rubs.
Eliminating taxes on tips needs congressional approval, and this whole
eliminating taxes on tips is not even under consideration by
House Republicans Officer at the moment, and they are crafting

(16:13):
legislation to extend Trump's twenty seventeen tax package. Also, about
forty billion dollars a year comes into the IRS and
tips like taxable tips. A lot of people don't aquare,
but those who do or have to are still paying
forty billion in taxes. The question comes, how do you
fill that hole?

Speaker 1 (16:31):
Right now? All he needs to do is win over
a few waiters and waitresses soon.

Speaker 5 (16:35):
Nail text. I know, well, when you go to the
nail salon, they don't want their tip on a credit card.
They want you to pay cash for the tip. Because
I don't, I don't think they declare it exactly.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
A few barbershops, hair salons in Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania. That's
all it could take. In fact, I may, with this
promise that Trump made, I may go change my electoral
map right now. I may make an adjustment to print
out a new one. Our national correspondent Aaron Reale with
us this morning. Aaron, really appreciate the update. We'll talk

(17:05):
to you tomorrow.

Speaker 6 (17:06):
Thank you him.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
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(17:29):
enjoy the podcast, and now.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
For some analysis of the Hunter Biden guilty verdict. Let's
bring in News Nation legal analyst and anchor for the
Law and Crime Network, Jesse Weber. You can find on
x at Jesse Cord Weber. Jesse, thanks so much for
taking a few minutes to come on the show. And
before we get to the verdict itself, let's start with
the recap of what this case was all about.

Speaker 7 (17:49):
So look, in a way an unprecedented case because you
had a sitting president's son being charged with three gun
related charges that I will tell you typically are not
brought like this. There are two one possession charges who
are relating to lining one on a form one line
to the gun shop about purchasing this gun, by saying

(18:11):
you're ay, by saying you're not an unlawful user a drug.
And typically these charges are not brought when that gun
is not used in the commission of a crime. When
there's not an overarching case. But these are relatively straightforward charges.
It's about saying, did hunter Biden lie when purchasing this gun?

(18:31):
Did he lie about being an unlawful drug user and
being a drug addict? And that's it. If the jury
believes that he was lying on that form and lying
to the gun shop and was a drug user who
was not supposed to have this weapon, that's the end
of the case. And you know that's where the charges were.
There was no underlying conspiracy, there was no use of

(18:53):
this gun with a violent crime. It was three straightforward
charges that the jury had to decide. Here.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
When you take a look at the entirety of the
prosecution's case, from their opening statements to their witnesses to
their closing arguments, what were some of the most compelling
points they made.

Speaker 7 (19:11):
Was summed up very well during the closing arguments. First
of all, some of the worst evidence against hunter Biden
was from hunter Biden his own text messages suggesting he
was looking for drugs around the time of the gun purchase,
the idea of his own words from his memoir him
talking about smoking crack.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
But it wasn't just that.

Speaker 7 (19:32):
It was the testimony of those who were in hunter
Biden's lives. In hunter Biden's life, those closest to him
who said they observed him as a drug abuser, who
observed this use of drugs for an ongoing period before, during,
and after this gun purchase, drug residue found in his car,
So it didn't take jurors that much of a leap

(19:53):
to say, while we can't stay definitively he might have
been doing drugs of the day he bought the gun,
as the prosecution argued and argued correctly, he was actively
engaged in drugs at this period of time. And moreover,
he knew that he was abusing drugs and was an addict.
After all, he had gone to rehab, so he understood

(20:14):
what his addiction was. He couldn't make the argument as
much as his defense counsel suggested that he didn't knowingly
violate the law, he didn't see himself as a drug
user because all the evidence was suggested otherwise.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
For some analysis of the Hunter Biden guilty verdict were
joined now by NewsNation legal analyst and anchor for the
Law in Crime network Jesse Weber. He had some notable
witnesses who took the stand Hunter Biden's ex wife, his
dead brother's widow, Hailey Biden, who he was also romantically
involved with his daughter Naomi Biden, with some emotional testimony.

(20:48):
There was also a stripper in there was there one
witness in particular whose testimony you thought really helped the prosecution.

Speaker 7 (20:56):
I think when you talk about his former love interest,
talk about observing him doing drugs and in around that
period of time, that was the key. That was the
key for the prosecution. And I will also say that
Hally Bioden Hally got in Seeing this drug residue in
his car after the gun purchase was particularly problematic for

(21:18):
Hunter Biden, but in totality it added to the overall
narrative that he was using drugs, knew he knew himself
that he was a drug abuser. And again, I think
in totality, at looking at that it was easy for
the jury to make that conclusion.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
And that really goes right to the difficulty the defense
team had. They were trying to make the argument that
in that moment, when Hunter Biden was actually filling out
that form, he wasn't lying when he said that he
wasn't an addict, because in his mind again in that
exact precise moment, he didn't think he was an addict.

(21:56):
But that's a really tough case to make.

Speaker 6 (22:00):
So look, this was an.

Speaker 7 (22:00):
Uphill battle for the defense, but they did the best
they could do with what they were given. They made
very creative arguments that if you look at the statue
that Hunter Biden was convicted of knowingly knowingly violating the law,
right that he didn't really perceive himself as a drug
abuser or a drug addict. He didn't worn't intentionally falsifying

(22:21):
the form that he wasn't doing drugs. No one can
definitively say he was doing drugs on that day, so
why should he think that he was a.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
Lawful drug user.

Speaker 7 (22:29):
It's a creative argument, but again it didn't hold much
water when you look at everything else, the testimony, the
text messages that would suggest otherwise. I think one of
the key pieces of evidence that they tried to hone
in on was one hundred and fifty thousand dollars that
he withdrew from his bank accounts, and they said, well,
you know, look that cash. He could have been spending
it on everything. Well, the problem is hunter Biden had

(22:50):
credit cards and he was actively using the credit cards,
but that cash seemed to be that he was only
using for drug purchases. And so they made a number
of arguments that, again, we're creative. They tried to hold
the prosecution to their burden, but at the end of
the day, they said, look, he might have thought himself
as an addict in an AA meeting, but he may

(23:12):
when you calling yourself an addict at an AA meeting
is different by calling yourself an addict on a legal sense,
on a legal form. And they also tried to stay
that perhaps the form was manipulated in some way, but
it was really really uphill arguments that didn't make a
whole lot of sense. We talked about a lot of
times in these trials, jurors have to use their common sense,
and the common sense here is that, unfortunately for Hunter Biden,

(23:34):
he was addicted to drugs and he lied about it.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
With some analysis of the Hunter Biden guilty verdict were
joined by News Nation legal analysts and anchor for the
Law in Crime Network, Jesse Webers. So we're seeing headlines
that Hunter Biden could face up twenty five years in
prison now that he's been found guilty on these three counts. Realistically,
what is he probably looking at?

Speaker 7 (23:56):
So is there a possibility that Hunter Biden could be
said in to prison yet, But it'll probably be more
something like fifteen to twenty one months in prison. If
there is a chance that he could also be sentenced
to probation. But remember these are felonies, these are federal felonies,
serious charges. Nonetheless, there is potential he could face prison time.

(24:16):
Now to be clear about that, sentencing wouldn't happen for
about four months. If he is sentenced to prison, there's
also a question about whether he would have to surrender
and report to prison at a later date, not that
he would have to remand himself into custody at that
day of sentencing. So it becomes a question of what
the sentence will be and when he will actually have
to serve it. And then of course there is the

(24:38):
outlying question of whether or not his father will pardon him.
I know there's an aullifications that his father will not
do that, but and he wants the process to play out.
But he could also make the argument, I let the
process play out, my son was convicted, maybe he would
choose to commute the sentence, which is actually reducing it.
And if his son is sentenced to significant time in prison,

(24:59):
and he can make the art argument like I've done
with a number of people in this country, like presidents
have done in the past, we have the part in power.
It doesn't mean we're interfering with the actual judicial profits,
but we like to correct wrongs that we see here
and perhaps that will happen.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
Final question for you, do you see Hunter Biden having
any grounds for an appeal? We certainly heard a lot
about this in the aftermath of the Trump hush money trial,
the different areas that Trump's team could appeal that guilty verdict.
What about in this case?

Speaker 7 (25:32):
So Hunter Biden will definitely appeal, and with standard appeal
you can always mention things that happened during the courses
the trial, or things that happened pre trial.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
That shouldn't have been let in.

Speaker 7 (25:41):
The most interesting question, the most interesting issue for Hunter
Biden is regarding a very important Second Amendment argument that's
making its way to the Supreme Court. And we remember,
we have a new framework in this country on how
courts analyzed gun regulations. It was based on a two
twenty twenty two Supreme Court decision and there was a

(26:03):
question about whether or not it is valid to restrict
access to firearms for non violent drug users. And in fact,
one of the statutes that Hunter Biden was convicted of
a court in this country, the Fifth Circuit actually struck
down it being applied to the person in that case.

(26:24):
They didn't totally invalidate the statute, but they said didn't
apply in that case. And I believe it was regarding
somebody who was had marijuana possession and of insulting the
possession of a firearm. So how that works its way
through the Supreme Court could definitely have an effect on
Hunter Biden and at least effect one or more of the.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
Charges News Nation legal analyst and anchor for the Law
in Crime network, Jesse Weber. You can find him on
x at Jesse Cord Weber for more. Jesse really appreciate
the time and insight. Thanks so much.

Speaker 7 (26:55):
Thank you greating out with you all right.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
A little bit later on the show, we're going to
have some audio from one of the ers who spoke
out after the conviction, and we're going to have some
insight from a reporter who's in the courtroom when the
verdict was handed down. Still to come, this hour drama
at a New Jersey high school over what appears to
be an anti Semitic incident, So stick around for that.

(27:19):
Ryan Gorman here with Dana McKay, and we are in
for Michael del Journo all this week. Right now, let's
get to another trending story, this one about the downside
of TV trigger warnings.

Speaker 5 (27:29):
Trigger warnings. Trigger warnings are getting so out of control
they're spoiling shows for people. And I should probably do
a spoiler alert before I mentioned these more specific ones.
So with Baby Reindeer on Netflix, they dulled a shocking
assault scene with a preemptive warning that said, the following
episode contains depictions of sexual violence that some viewers may
find troubling, so you pretty much know, yeah, what's going

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to happen in the episode. Severin's on Apple TV Plus
tipped viewers off to a cliffhanger by revealing the following
contains a depiction of self harm, so you know that
a character is going to self harm. And then on
Better Call Saul on a streaming service overseas, they foreshadowed
a major character death with a suicide hotline number before

(28:12):
the episode.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
Yeah, no, you're spoiling the show when you do that, like,
I get it, But I'm seeing this in like news
reports too, Like at the top of news reports on
certain subjects, like there were some new revelations in the
Gabby Petito case which made a lot of national headlines,
and at the very top of the recent reporting it

(28:33):
was trigger warning. This contains some graphic domestic violence information.
So you're even getting them in like print reports.

Speaker 5 (28:42):
Yeah, well, I understand if they want to put trigger
warnings out there. I do think it's getting a little extreme.
But when you're spoiling a TV.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
Show, yeah, you can't. You can't be doing that.

Speaker 5 (28:51):
So there's actually a show that has a general content
warning and then they say there are triggers in this show.
For more specific and check the details in the morning.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
They're telling you.

Speaker 5 (29:03):
If you're sensitive, if you need you know, if you
might be triggered by something, go look. Other than that,
feel free to watch the show.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
I feel like, you know, with how so many people
are these days, you can need that ahead of every show,
you right out of every show, ahead of every article. Yeah,
ahead of this radio show right here, trigger warning, We've
got more stuff coming up for you. Yeah, I'm Daniel
Calsey and Tampa and my morning show is your Morning
Show with Michael Jill Jornam, Brian Gorman here with Dana McKay,

(29:31):
and we can do a trigger warning here. You are
about to hear something that is highly offensive, and if
you don't find it offensive, you should probably look at
yourself in the mirror and do a little thinking. An
anti Israel protester was captured on camera telling Jews honoring
the Israelis killed on October seven that he wished Hitler

(29:52):
was still here because the Nazi leader would have wiped
all of you out. This happened during Monday's memore and
Union Square in New York City, honoring those killed at
the Nova Music festival, with other protesters letting flares and
waving a banner celebrating the terrorist attack. Here's some audio
of that moment. Again, he says, I wish Hitler was

(30:30):
still here. He would have wiped all of you out.
That's what he's saying to the Jews were honoring those
who were brutally murdered on October seventh, then taken hostage.
You know, a couple of years ago, that was something
that you would maybe come across online like people would
say that online, yeah, but not in person to someone's face.

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And now we've gotten to the point in society where
that's moved offline and people will just say anything in person.
It's incredible. I mean to hear that, you know, I
can only imagine what those people were thinking as they're
listening to this guy.

Speaker 5 (31:10):
Right for somebody to just be able to say something
so hateful and wrong to someone's face, yeah, it really
is unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
Mayor Eric Adams responded and said this.

Speaker 8 (31:21):
You must always protect the right to free speech, but
I have a moral obligation to speak out. And the
messages that some New Yorkers are sharing go beyond the
pale protests waves hezbe lah Hama's flags. At other protests,
they carried banners reading long Live October seventh, and one

(31:42):
person even yelled he wishes Hitler was still here. He
would have wiped all of you out. These are reprehensible
and bowl comments. I in every New Yorker who stands
for peace, stand united against them who never allows city
to descend into lawlessness, and those who break out laws

(32:04):
will be arrested, while peaceful protests will be allowed. New
York City would never cower in the face of those
trying to divide us.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
Hey has no place in our city. So I've got
a pretty solid response from the New York mayor, and
a much needed one. You really didn't hear anything from
the White House, nothing substantial following those protests that we
had talked about the other day that took place right
outside the White House, remember, and you had basically people
chanting for Hamas and Hezbolah oh.

Speaker 5 (32:33):
Yeah, and vandalizing a statue in front of the White
House and everything.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
You know what, you don't hear from those protesters and
the ones in New York, especially the one that we
just played. I mean, we're talking about full on, not
even anti Israel, full on anti Semitic protesters. But you
don't hear from them. You don't hear anything about the
let's say, four Israeli hostages who were just rescued, how
they were starved and beaten almost every day. Their doctor
just revealed that. And when you also don't hear them

(32:58):
comment on the Wall Street Journal how to report that
the leader of Hamas called the thousands of civilians killed
in Gaza since October seventh, and I'm quoting here necessary sacrifices.
How do you mean any of that from the protesters?
How come they're not protesting that the fact that Hamas
is okay with civilians being killed as Israel tries to

(33:24):
root out Hamas, and you could tell that Hamas doesn't
care about the civilian casualties because they continue to put
hostages like we just saw with the rescue mission in
heavily populated civilian areas. They continue to hide weapons like
we had that story a couple of days ago where
there were a bunch of weapons, who weapons cash found

(33:46):
in a tunnel underneath the child's bedroom. You don't hear
them mentioning any of that at these protests, or just
the fact that if Hamas was really concerned about the
people of Gaza and the Palestinians, they could just unconditionally
surrender right now.

Speaker 5 (34:01):
Right well, they could put all the resources that they're
putting into building these tunnels and having all these weapons
into actually helping the people of Gaza.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
They could have done that. Two. There are lots of
ways they could have helped the people of Gaza and
prevented some of these civilian deaths, and they're not doing so.
And that Wall Street Journal report clearly lays out leader
of Hamas doesn't care, of course, not necessary sacrifices and
justifies the means. But you're not gonna hear that from

(34:30):
any of those. I wonder what the I wish Hitler
were still here. He would have wiped you all out.
Protester would say to that under I don't know, I
don't even want to think about it. Really, I have
a feeling he just brushed that right aside and continue
on with his anti Semitism. Coming up more on the
Hunter Biden guilty verdict, plus Hamas issued a response to

(34:54):
the US Israeli ceasefire proposal. We're gonna have that story
for you too. Lots still to come.

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