June 17, 2024 • 34 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:34):
This is your morning show with Michael Bill Jordan. Thanks
so much, mccam six minutes half of the hour. Welcome,
Good morning. It's Monday, June the seventeenth. Israel announced a
daily pause in fighting along a key road in the Gaza.
They'll pause for eleven hours each day along a road
in the southern Gaza area to protect deliveries of humanitarian aid.
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The brutal heat wave that has hit the eastern United
States continue.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Heat in dex Is over one hundred will stretch from
the Gulf Coast to Canada, I vacationed at Cedar Point
Amusement Park at the Breakers in Sandusky, Ohio, where the
high was fifty nine, John Decker of one of the
days then it was perfect like sunny in sixty eight
did the next two days, so it was nice to
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get a break. But the heat wave is back. And
then the rules have been set for the big debate,
and the man with all the details on those rules
his White House correspondent John Decker. Good morning, John, Hey,
good morning to you, Michael.
Speaker 6 (01:32):
Good to be with you.
Speaker 7 (01:32):
Good to be back. As you know, you were away
last week. I was away, still reporting, but I was
covering the G seven summit with President Biden. But as
you point out now, the debate rules have been set.
Those debate rules, by the way, Michael, have been agreed
to by both campaigns. The Trump campaign the Biden campaign
have agreed to debate rules which include no studio audience.
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There will be no one in that studio when this
one on one debate takes place ten days from now
on June the twenty seventh, hosted by CNN in Atlanta. Also,
when one of those presidential hopefuls is talking, the other
one will have their mic viewed it. That's another rule
that was agreed to by both campaigns. It's a ninety
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minute debate, two commercial breaks, and during those commercial breaks,
the candidates cannot I repeat cannot consult with their campaigns
in any way. They will be up there on that
debate stage. A coin foot will determine who's on the
left podium and who's at the right podium.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
We just played a song by an artist named Tom McDonald,
and it really displays the divided culture we live in
America today with the blue and the red, and the
left versus right, and the US versus them, and the
shirts versus skin, and we're just yelling at each other
with narratives and hating each other. This has kind of
been narrativized too. But I will tell you this, if
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no matter what caused all of these changes, and I
think you know what I'm implying, what if an actual
substance of debate breaks out, could we learn something from
these special rules that might apply to all debates moving forward,
because debates haven't been effective in decades.
Speaker 7 (03:13):
Well, debates have knocked been that effective. But I think
that you know, each candidate needs to prove something to
those who are reluctant to support their candidacies that are
on the fence. Believe it or not, there are people
like that, and so for Joe Biden, this debate is
very important to determine for those skeptical people that he
has the wherewithal to be president for another four years.
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Donald Trump, I think, you know, we saw those debates
that took place in the twenty twenty cycle. In I
think that if his advisors were advising him as it
relates to twenty twenty four, they would say probably two
words to the former president, which is relax and calm down. Right,
They just say calm down, mister president, because he needs
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to look presidential. That is an important element for those
people that are reluctant to support him in the twenty
twenty four elections.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Like I guess, just to remake my point because when
they got a couple of minutes left, I like ninety minutes.
That's you know, that's a good time frame. I like
only two commercial breaks. I like no consulting during the
commercial breaks. I like when one's talking the other mic
is off because the constant interrupting and talking over each other,
the no studio audience that one is interesting because it's
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gonna for these candidates. They're not gonna get instant feedback,
so they're gonna have to, you know, keep their own momentum,
their own energy level, and it's going to force them
to talk to us instead of to the crowd or
play to the crowd. What I'm getting at is these
are all very special rules, and they were being set
and they've been agreed to. It may show us a
formula that could actually make this about ideas versus theater,
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if you know what I mean. So I'm actually very
interested in watching this, not necessarily conspiracy theorists as much
as I'm very interested. I want to see a substance
of to debate. I want to get beyond personalities. I
want to get beyond tactics and let's get to the solutions.
And this could force.
Speaker 7 (05:05):
It could be good, It could be good. And yet
we haven't seen what the debate rules exactly are for
the second presidential debate that will be hosted by ABC News,
that will be in New York City, and that will
be on September the tenth, so closer and closer to
election day. I think that ABC is going to follow
suit and also have that their debate without a studio
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audience as well. But we'll see what other types of
rules they come up with ahead of their debate. But
these are the rules that both Donald Trump and Joe
Biden have to prepare for. For Joe Biden, I can
tell you he's going to take some time away from
the White House to head out to Camp David to
do some debate prep, a number of days of debate prep.
I don't know what the plans are for Donald Trump.
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I think he likes to think that he can wing it.
But even if you're good at debates, and I think
that a few election cycles ago we saw this. Even
if you think you're good at debate, you still need
to prepare. And I want to remind you, Michael, do
you remember the first presidential debate? It was Mitt Romney
versus Barack Obama, and Mitt Romney clean Barack Obama's clock.
And the reason why Mitt Romney very prepared and Barack
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Obama was not prepared for that first presidential beal. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
And Barack Obama thought too. He was a great winger,
and he usually was, but that night he wasn't. We'll
see what they learned from it, all right, The only
thing that's not going to be affected is the moderators.
Moderators have been somewhat of an issue. They'll have even
more control in this type of setting. But I don't know.
I actually think we may have stumbled on something here.
But I'm going to wait and hold reserve my comments
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till after it happens. But if it leads to a
substance of discussion, I would certainly welcome. When is the
first debate, It is ten.
Speaker 7 (06:44):
Days from now. It is on June the twenty seventh,
in his Atlanta. It hosted by CNN. The moderators Jake
Tapper of Dana Bash, And I think for them, they
have to do some preparation too, Michael. They have to
make sure that they're not a part of the story.
They want to sort of step back and let these Canadas,
these presidential hopefuls make the points the points that they
wish to make during the course of these ninety minutes
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without stepping on the toes of anybody. And if you
fact check one, you have to fact check the other.
I think that's an important element of being a moderator
for these presidential debates.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Couldn't have said it better myself. John Decker, welcome back,
all right, fourteen minutes after the hour. Thanks for waking
up with your morning show. You know, for me, the
lack of true moderators has been the biggest problem with debates.
These aren't authentic moderators. So what happens is is you
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get a left leaning one if it's CNN, you get
a right leaning one, really more of an establishment republican
leaning one when it's Fox. Sometimes Fox tries to play
a little bit more fair. But John just hit all
the aspects. We haven't had a moderator that made it
about the candidates, let alone what they should be making
it about us. They should be more interested in us
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getting whatever we need to get to make our choice,
rather than try to steer our choice. We don't have that,
and you won't have it in this you'll have less
distraction from the crowd. I actually think there's a reason
why the administration forced these rules. And I happen to
be dealing with somebody dealing with dementia right now, and
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I can tell you they can't be in a loud room,
So there's a reason why they wanted that room quiet.
They're not trying to reenact the Kennedy Nixon debates. They
have somebody of a certain cognitive ability and age that
has to be in a less stimulated room. Donald Trump
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is somebody that always gets his energy from the crowd.
Let's see how it affects his energy. It could very
well have a very good impact for Donald Trump, because
Donald Trump is a very far more than you think,
a very compassionate person, and so he may be more
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human and less abusive if you will. Now, there's one
way this could backfire on both of them. First of all,
in all of those rules, the one thing we didn't
bring up. They're not allowing Robert F. Kennedy. And if
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both men perform poorly, see in all debates, and it
doesn't matter who the candidates are or what year or
what election cycle, you want to have a couple of
really good moments, memorable sound bites. Remember we used to
call Ronald Reagan the sound bite President. Well, here you
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go again. You know how Ronald Reagan addressed his older age.
I want to talk about the elephant in the room.
Speaker 8 (10:01):
I will not make my opponent's age and inexperience an
issue in this campaign. And everybody cracked up, including his opponent, So.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
You don't want. You want to avoid any bad moments.
You want to have one or two good moments. What
if both look old? What if both perform poorly? What
does that do a few months out from the election.
I don't know what Joe Biden could do to resurrect
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a thirty seven percent approval rating. But remember, at the
very beginning, and this is a proclivity that still lives
under the surface, nobody wanted the rematch. Seventy percent of
America did not want Donald Trump versus Joe Biden, too,
and that's exactly what they got. Now. I think a
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lot has changed. For all the attacks on Donald Trump,
for all the lawfare attacks that have all failed, they
have made him the underdog. They have made him the victim.
And look how it worked. You got your best Donald
Trump tied up in court. You got a very concise
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I mean, he literally out campaigned Joe Biden locked in
a courtroom. Because it was just the right amount. We
call it the Elaine effect. Elaine in a short visit
in a scene of Seinfeld perfect. If you did the
whole show with the Elaine character, it'd be exhausting. Same
thing with Kramer. It was just the right amount of
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Donald Trump. Look what it did for him financially, Look
what it did from in the polls. I don't think
Donald Trump is in the same place he was a
year ago. I don't want either. I think he is
impassioned a lot of support. I actually think he's got
as much passion and momentum or more than twenty sixteen.
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And this time Joe Biden doesn't have nearly the presumption
or the momentum of Hillary Clinton. And that was a disaster.
But what if both don't turn in a memorable moment?
Would have both turn in some bad moments? Would have
both look old? How's that gonna play? In a quiet
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television studio with no crowd and no distraction. This is
your morning show with Michael del Chrono. Thanks for waking
up with your morning show. So many ways to communicate
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where Kathy writes, I actually kind of liked the idea
of Trump's mike being muted while Biden is speaking. Some
of Trump's worst moments and previous debates have been when
he loses his temper and interrupts Biden. Listen. What I
think Catherine brings up is is this question. Everything the
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left has tried to do now, everything they did in
the shadow campaign to say the democracy worked. Everything this
time they've been doing, from law fare, you name it, failing.
Now they get their special debate, their special debate rules.
It is the year of backfire after all. Hey, the
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leader of Hamas says the group may be ready for
a comprehensive deal for a ceasefire in Gaza, that is,
if you give them victory, even though they've lost. Mark
Mayfield reports is.
Speaker 9 (13:48):
Mile Hania made the comments during a televised speech on Sunday.
Along with a ceasefire, he also called for a comprehensive
swamp of his ringy hostages for Palestinian prisoners, as well
as for Israel to withdrawal from Gaza and to rebuild.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
What was destroyed.
Speaker 9 (14:03):
There has been no formal response you had from Israel
or the US. I'm Mark Mayfield.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Now here's what nobody likes to acknowledge. Are we in
a holy war? A fifteen hundred year holy war? What
would be the worst nightmare if all these individual Islamist
sects unite. One of the worst stories rumoring around is
here comes has be a lot and you'll hear read
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the Washington Post. They'll tell you, Oh, here's a much
more formidable opponent for Israel. You mean, a much more
threat to world, the world and world peace. And if
they all unite along with Iran and other Muslim nations.
Tick tick tick trip trip trip. Can't figure out whose
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side you're on? Careful you may be the next target.
Might help you make your decision. Meanwhile, in another war,
the US is setting an additional one point five billion
dollars to aid to the Ukraine. Lisa Carton has details.
Speaker 10 (15:02):
Vice President Kamala Harris made the announcement Saturday at a
global summit in Switzerland. Of that money, five hundred million
dollars will go towards repairing and protecting energy infrastructure damage
during the Russian invasion. About three hundred and eighty million
dollars will be used to provide humanitarian assistance for refugees
and communities impacted by the war.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
I'm Lisa Carton. Never mind a thousand pardons. Maryland Governor
Wes Morris planning to issue one hundred and seventy five
thousand marijuana conviction pardons. Tammy Trihilo has details.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Moore set in an interview with The Washington Post that
it would be a step to heal decades of social
and economic injustice that disproportionately harmed people of color. The
pardons will mark one of the country's largest clemency acts
involving marijuana. I'm Tammy Trihello.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
For President of Barack Obama, says he mostly watches sports now.
Uh is a very cynical time. I'm not political. I
mostly watched sports. That's what he told the Biden campaign
fundraiser Saturday night in Los Angeles. He went on to
add to the room, which was mostly made up of
social media creators, that he feels a lot of the
people who watch their content feel turned off by the
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political discourse because it's a cynical time. That's why I
only watch sports. Now. This justin. We were all born yesterday,
and we're all bad drivers. Pre Tennis is here with
that story.
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The Society of Automotive Engineers has listed the three most
annoying habits behind the wheel, and you're probably doing them.
They say forty eight percent of drivers don't use their
turn signal, and that's the most annoying trait. Eighty percent tailgate,
another eighty percent use their phone, all while driving a
four thousand pound vehicle, probably over the posted speed limit too.
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On the plus side, they say ninety one point nine
percent of us use the seatbelt.
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Gigi and Tulsa requested I sing Barry Manilo Mandy on
his eighty first birthday. Actually I sang I write the
songs that make the whole world thing. I didn't sing Mandy. Mandy,
by the way, a song that was originally not written
by Barry Manilo, was originally written Brandy is that true? Yes,
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and Barry Manilo changed it to Mandy instead. Obviously a
big Mandy patankin fan Um. Well, if you look at
the Biden economy, what's the only thing you can really
point to that's doing well the stock market, which is
exactly why the Democrats want to tax all of that.
Aeron Rayal is here. Yes, they are in the business
of growing government and growing government revenue rather than the economy.
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Here's another example of it. All right, so we don't
have a spec problem. We obviously have a revenue problem.
So let's just find someone to tax. Well, there's a
good target.
Speaker 6 (18:07):
We have a problem with both.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
To be honest, we spend too much and we probably
tax too much. So Congress is actually right now wrestling
with this looming decision over trillions of bucks in expiring
tax breaks. They're going to expire in twenty twenty five,
and without any action from Congress, more than sixty percent
of filers will pay higher taxes next year. So Democrats
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are proposing higher taxes on corporations and wealthy Americans. Specifically,
they're looking at stock buybacks, capital gains, corporate tax rate,
and then the good old carried interests we've heard about
this one before. This is essentially where private equity firms
venture capital hedge funds. They're paid as an incentive compensation
to the fund's general partner with a limited partner. So
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essentially you align interest between the people giving you money
you investing in it. If the deal goes well, you
make a bunch of money, and then you have something
called carried interest. It's considered a return on investment, so
it's taxed as a capital gain rather than ordinary income
at a much much much lower rate, sometimes zero percent.
And because this carried interest is distributed after a period
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of years, it deffers tax and in a way that
is like an unrealized capital gain.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
All right, corporate tax. Right, first question is how do
our rates compare to other countries where we seemingly are
losing jobs to This would make a bad area even worse,
would it not.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Oh, it's a hard one to answer very quickly, because
you know, when you look.
Speaker 5 (19:37):
At multi billion dollar corporations that pay close to zero
percent and tax saying.
Speaker 6 (19:41):
Like no, like that's not a good it doesn't really
work like that.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
And then or other places like let's say the Cayman
Islands that has no income tax, the quality like they
get their tax in other ways or even like let's
look at a better one that's like a more functioning
and not just a tax even, but like a Singapore
which has a flat tax.
Speaker 6 (20:01):
Which is fine.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
So it's like you're paying let's say twenty percent across
the board. But then things like a car like and
I know this because I live there, If you want
a Honda Civic, it costs I'm not joking around one
hundred thousand dollars because they tax luxury items like a
car but not even like a fancy one, or they'll
tax booze like incredible, incredibly high amount. So yeah, I
have to get paid as a government, is the point
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I'm trying to make.
Speaker 6 (20:23):
And is it okay for.
Speaker 5 (20:24):
The largest corporations in the world, the greatest corporations arguably
based here to be taxed in zero percent, while someone
making two hundred fifty thousand dollars has to give you
more than forty percent of their income?
Speaker 6 (20:35):
Like does that seem right? Probably not either.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
There has to be a better way to solve this,
and it's not what we have right now in terms
of the corporate tax structure.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
I am going to be turning. I shouldn't give my age.
It makes me sound old, but I have young children,
so it kept me young. But I'm getting ready to
turn sixty years old. And I wasn't even alive when
the last president really explained this well, and that was
John F. Kennedy. And that is the difference between growing
the government as the priority and growing revenue for the
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government as the priority, or growing the economy, which is
the best way to fund the government efficiently. And so
John F. Kennedy said, here, we are in a recession,
and it seems like that's the time to raise taxes. Well,
just the opposite is true, that's the time to lower taxes.
That morally, we got to understand that when people work
and earn money, it's theirs, and then we have to
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trust them and how they'll spend it. They'll pay down
their debt and they'll buy things. And as they buy things,
businesses grow. As businesses grow, they expand, As they expand,
they hire more. Taxpayers burned less is the most effective
way to fund government. Now, you can be political and
narrativized every day, but the truth of the matter is,
for all the demonization of the Trump's tax cuts, it
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actually increased revenue for the government, just like it did
with Reagan, just like it did with Kennedy. So my
problem with all of this is when you don't address
all of it, because there's two questions that are never asked.
What is the proper size and role of government? And
then what is the role and responsibility of the self
governed if anybody even understands what self governed is anymore.
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And so if you don't address the spending and you
only try to address the revenue, you're not going to
get there. You got to do both simultaneously. But right
now they're going to I guess what the big argument
is over, and I think they're taking somewhat and all
of the above approach, capital gains, the interest tax, all
of the above. And then I guess the other thing
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I would ask you is twenty twenty five is when
it expires? I guess that depends on who wins the
election in November two.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
Right, Yes, that is a big part of it.
Speaker 5 (22:41):
And you just explain that really beautifully in like a
short period of time.
Speaker 6 (22:44):
I commend you for that.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
But you make such a good point too that it's
like you want to know how you balanced the budget.
Speaker 6 (22:50):
Because here's the thing.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
If we extend these taxes, apparently like extend these tax breaks.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
We're going to add four point six trillion to.
Speaker 6 (22:58):
The deficit over ten years.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
That's not great either, But you make a very astute
observation that it's like, you have to do both. You
have to cut spending, but know what, you also have
to raise taxes when things are good and the market
is doing well. There now everyone's furious also taking for
saying that, but like we did it in the nineties
and we balance the budget. You have to cut spending
and you have to raise taxes, whether.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
It's on the corporations that pay their little.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
Or the billionaires. And you don't want to demonize the rich.
You don't want to live in a country where the
rich have to live behind gates with armored cars, and
you know that's not good either. You want to get
to a place where the richer, not get to a
place you want to be. It's like, no, we could
all be that if we work. Theoretically it's not going
to happen, but the idea of being like it's something
to aspire to and not demonize. But paying your fair
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share is an important part of this too without total redistribution.
And then also another part of this equation, they're discussing
taxes on unrealized gains. This one always I'm like, what,
how can they even do that? Because this is like
basically profits on unsold's. That's very hard because you literally
don't have the cash do some people do. But the
idea of being like, oh, you're you're let's say your
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four to oh one K performed extraordinarily well and you're
text on that even though you haven't sold anything, I
think for one case would be different. But the idea
of being like, just because you did well means now
you're going to get hit even if you didn't sell.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
I was watching it. I was watching one of these
I have one area. I have to be cared. Andrew
just discovered wordle and she says it's like crack cocaine.
Once you start, you can't stop. It's everything to put
your phone down. For me, the only thing that suckers
me in is the reels. Like if I'm on Facebook
and I hit a reel and then it knows everything
I love and so every time I flip one, and
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then you get into this twenty second sound bite mentality,
and I'll slip in a little Johnny Carson or something. Well,
one that popped up was this guy and he's talking
about your four o one K. And so let's say
you get a million dollars and your four one k.
Most people don't, but let's say you have a million dollars.
You think you're a millionaire. Well you don't know because
you're not taking the money yet. And when you do
take the money twenty years from now, you don't know
what tax rates on that it could be changed to.
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So that's not real money necessarily yet. And so that's
the game. I'll never forget. I was very young, and
I've been poor, and I've been and I've made a
lot of money, and I'm indifferent to both. In fact,
the happier years were the poorer years. But that's a
whole other story. But there was one point where it's
making a lot of money and a lot of money
and a lot of money. What did I do. I
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just spent more and more and more, and then I
was constantly stressed and constantly scrambling to make more and
more and more. And then one day I'm sitting at
lunch and I go, you know, what I don't have
to make more money. I seem to spend less and
it was like an epiphany. That's what a punk I was,
and an idiot, and I find government doing that. If
you don't address the spending, then you're on the mouse
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wheel trying to find ways to raise revenue when the
real solution is spend less and it takes the stress
off of that. There's never in all the above. Remember
the good old days when we talked about a fair
tax or a flat tax. I wish that would come
up again.
Speaker 6 (26:00):
That's like, that sounds right to me.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
I highly recommend you take the kids to Cedar Point
in uh Sandusky, Ohio. Best roller coasters on planet Earth.
The only bad part I had to be away from
the radio show for a week. But it's good to
be back, and it's good to be back with you.
You got it all right. I'm gonna do a final
say coming up in just a second. But first things first,
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let's get in our top five stories at the day,
and they are everything's the boogeyman, right, and so if
you elect him, he won't leave. If you elect them
a court that's already out of balance, to get more
out of balance, boogeyman, boogeyman, scare, scare, scare. I got
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to give you a reason to vote for me without
bringing me up. That's what Joe Biden did with a
star studded fundraiser.
Speaker 9 (26:52):
Road to the White House twenty twenty four. President Biden
is criticizing the conservative majority Supreme Court. At a fundraiser
in Laws Angelis Saturday, the President said the court was
out of step. The Supreme Court has never been as
out of kilder as it is today. Biden also warned
that if former President Trump is elected, he would appoint
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more justices flying flags upside down, a reference to conservative
Justice Samuel Alito, who's been embroiled in controversy over political
flags flown.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
At his home.
Speaker 9 (27:21):
The comments were made at a star studded fundraiser featuring
former President Obama as well as various A list celebrities,
including George Clooney and Julia Roberts. Biden's campaign says the
event race a record breaking thirty million dollars from Democratic donors.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
I'm Markneyfield, but would make everything about race. And we're
already playing loose with eternity and moral relativism versus God.
So what's the big deal with legal relativism. Doesn't matter
what they did and it was against the law. Now
we think merrik on Wan is okay. So we have
one hundred and seventy five thousand pardons in Maryland alone.
(27:56):
Tammy Trehuilo has details Moore set.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
In an interview with The Washington Post that it would
be a step to heal decades of social and economic
injustice that disproportionately harmed people of color. The pardons will
mark one of the country's largest clemency acts involving marijuana.
I'm Tammy Trihio.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
The Outsiders was the best musical Stereophonic was named the
year's Best play at the twenty twenty four Tony Awards.
Inside Out two was tops at the box office for Pixar.
The sequel scored one hundred and fifty five million dollars
in its opening weekend, would be the first release to
earn a nine figure domestic opening in almost eleven months.
Bad Boys A Riod Died. Does he slap anybody in
(28:34):
that movie? I don't know. I don't now they've thrown
Chris Rock in a cameo and Will Smith slaps him.
I might go see it. That came in second, and
Kingdom of the Plan of the Apes came in third
at the box office over the weekend. The pulp apparently
has a funny bone. After meeting with comedians from around
the world to discuss the importance of humor, Rob Mardier
has more.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
The Pontiff met with Jimmy Fallon, Stephen Colbert, Whoopy Goldberg,
Chris rock In, dozens of other comedians at the Vatican Friday.
He told the group that they have the power to
spread peace and smiles when there was so much gloomy news.
He also said it's not blasphemy to laugh at God.
After his message, the comedians got a chance to meet
the Pope, shake his hands and say a few words
and the blessing in disguise what p Goldberg said she
(29:18):
did not ask Pope Francis if he would star in
Sister Act three.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
I'm Rob Martyr, Rob Beta Funny. Then did you catch that?
Celebrity chef Gordon Ramsey says he's lucky to be alive
after he crashed his bike last week in Connecticut.
Speaker 12 (29:31):
Jacqueline Carl reports Ramsey posted a video on social media
where he urged followers to always wear a helmet, showing
before and after pictures of his own helmet and tatters.
He also lifted his shirt to reveal his entire left
side was seriously bruised. Ramsey says recovery has been brutal,
but thanked the doctors and nurses who treated him at
(29:51):
the hospital.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Jacqueline Carl, NBC News Radio, you see the pictures of
his torso horrible. It looks like Rocky balbo Is training
or his Apollo Creed fight. That was nasty, all right.
I don't know how after losing the first three games,
the Mavericks won by thirty eight Friday night, but they
force the game five or were the Celtics just laying
(30:13):
down so they could win at home? We'll find out tonight.
Game five Tonight at seven thirty on ABC. Celtics win.
The Celtics are your NBA champions and the NHL same thing.
Florida gets off to a three to nothing lead, they
go on the road, they lose eight to one. Have
to pull their best goalie. Now they're headed back to Sunset, Florida,
(30:33):
where they can win at home and hoist the Lord
Stanley Cup if they get a win tomorrow night, and
the US Open. Well, it was amazing. Bryce and d
Chambeau wins out over Rory mcklboy Rory McIlroy by one
stroke at Pinehurst two. It's his second US Open championship.
But to do it, I mean, think of the odds
to do it on the twenty fifth anniversary when Payn
(30:55):
Stewart did it at the same course and that's his hero. Well,
that becomes our sound of the day, Bryson D Chambeau
after the championship win.
Speaker 13 (31:03):
Look, it was just an honor to play some tough
golf against the best in the world. And man, it's
a lot of fun when we get to do that.
I'm I couldn't be more more proud of the USGA
for the way that they ran this event. What a
fantastic venue. The fans were incredible and man, my dad
in Pain. I kept thinking about them all day.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
What were you thinking?
Speaker 4 (31:26):
What they meant to.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Me and to the game. Pain inspired me to go
to SMU.
Speaker 13 (31:31):
Once I saw his miron the wall at SMU, I
decided to go there right then and there, and so
I wore the cap for him. I still view him
as my hero, and my dad is my hero as well.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Twenty five years after Payne. Stuart wins two weeks before
his death in an aviation accident. The man who idolizes
him wins the US Open. That's that's a semendipitous US
Open ball areas of your morning show interest. The Cardinals
beat the Cubs at Wrigley two to one. NAT's one
three to one over the Marlins, raise one eighty six
over the Braves, d Backs twelve five outslugged the White Sox.
(32:09):
Mariners won five zip to the Rangers. You're thinking, did
all of our cities win? Well, obviously not. The Rangers
lost and the Guardians lost seven six of the Blue Jays.
As we mentioned, birthdays today. Barry Manilow eighty one years
old today, former speaker Nude Gingrich also eighty one. Tennis
great Venus Williams forty four, Hip hopper Kendrick Lamar is
thirty seven. This is Steam the Wrestler, a refugee from
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the People's Republic of Minnesota. And my morning show is
your Morning Show with Michael del Jordan. Final say time,
Bill wrote, just a few minutes ago, what was the
name of that song that you played earlier? Tom McDonald
me versus you, I'm gonna play a one minute of it.
I think no song, and I compared it to What's
going On by Marvin Gaye capturing the troubles of the sixties.
(32:56):
This is America today in song. It's a brilliant song.
It is all the narratives you're gonna hear. You see
it in newspapers, you see it online, you see it
when you're watching television, cable news, or even when you're
listening to talk radio. Narratives and fighting shirts and skins,
us versus you hating each other. And while we're busy fighting,
(33:19):
we're not solving a thing. Listen, I'm the one that.
Speaker 14 (33:23):
You hate for making America great and I'm the one
who's trying to build back better.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
We ain't the same.
Speaker 14 (33:27):
Yeah, you're right, there's a difference, y'all are woking, We're awake.
What it's Joe, does white privilege.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Have something to say? Your president needs old. The country
ain't to the ground. The prime rate is through the
roof the rainbow. Jobs to be found in facing going up.
My kids they food in their mouth.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
You put the fake news on every TV.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Freedom.
Speaker 14 (33:42):
Hold up, you're president, a racist, homophobic, tried to overthrow
democracy and everybody knows that he will never make America
great again, like the slogan you have white supremice.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
It's just like all of you who voted.
Speaker 6 (33:53):
That is not a fact.
Speaker 14 (33:54):
All you wote morons do is talk trash drag queens
in classrooms. Anyone who's not voting pro white You know
that's what the AD members are, right, you're anti LGBTQ.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Than why they always on your mind? Bro, you're a boy,
you're a girl. I'mthingy souping. You're screwing up the youth
and all the children are future. You don't care about
the kids.
Speaker 14 (34:09):
Look at all the school shooting. It's your pro gun,
it's your false stuff making those excuse you.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Think anyone who don't agree with you with system thinking.
Speaker 14 (34:16):
You're a fascist, You're a non you're just man because
you three, you're just jealous of the least, because we're
progressive and we're planning.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
Now.
Speaker 14 (34:21):
I'm tripping that you won the election because you're right.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
They do.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
They let you on the right.
Speaker 14 (34:27):
They tell you what they hate.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Did they tell you who to live?
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Are you scream?
Speaker 6 (34:30):
Man?
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Scream? It's a brilliant song. I put it on my
Facebook wall. If you want to share it with others.
Some two million have already seen it. Will three hundred
and sixty wake up to it and stop this nonsense.
All this hate fighting just continues their rule and it's
solving nothing. We're all in this together. This is your
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Well two three starting your morning off right.
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Thank you.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
A new way of talk, a new way of understanding
because we're in this together.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
This is your morning show with Michael Bill Jordan. Thanks
so much, mccam six minutes half of the hour. Welcome,
Good morning. It's Monday, June the seventeenth. Israel announced a
daily pause in fighting along a key road in the Gaza.
They'll pause for eleven hours each day along a road
in the southern Gaza area to protect deliveries of humanitarian aid.
(00:55):
The brutal heat wave that has hit the eastern United
States continue.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Heat in dex Is over one hundred will stretch from
the Gulf Coast to Canada, I vacationed at Cedar Point
Amusement Park at the Breakers in Sandusky, Ohio, where the
high was fifty nine, John Decker of one of the
days then it was perfect like sunny in sixty eight
did the next two days, so it was nice to
(01:21):
get a break. But the heat wave is back. And
then the rules have been set for the big debate,
and the man with all the details on those rules
his White House correspondent John Decker. Good morning, John, Hey,
good morning to you, Michael.
Speaker 6 (01:32):
Good to be with you.
Speaker 7 (01:32):
Good to be back. As you know, you were away
last week. I was away, still reporting, but I was
covering the G seven summit with President Biden. But as
you point out now, the debate rules have been set.
Those debate rules, by the way, Michael, have been agreed
to by both campaigns. The Trump campaign the Biden campaign
have agreed to debate rules which include no studio audience.
(01:56):
There will be no one in that studio when this
one on one debate takes place ten days from now
on June the twenty seventh, hosted by CNN in Atlanta. Also,
when one of those presidential hopefuls is talking, the other
one will have their mic viewed it. That's another rule
that was agreed to by both campaigns. It's a ninety
(02:16):
minute debate, two commercial breaks, and during those commercial breaks,
the candidates cannot I repeat cannot consult with their campaigns
in any way. They will be up there on that
debate stage. A coin foot will determine who's on the
left podium and who's at the right podium.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
We just played a song by an artist named Tom McDonald,
and it really displays the divided culture we live in
America today with the blue and the red, and the
left versus right, and the US versus them, and the
shirts versus skin, and we're just yelling at each other
with narratives and hating each other. This has kind of
been narrativized too. But I will tell you this, if
(02:55):
no matter what caused all of these changes, and I
think you know what I'm implying, what if an actual
substance of debate breaks out, could we learn something from
these special rules that might apply to all debates moving forward,
because debates haven't been effective in decades.
Speaker 7 (03:13):
Well, debates have knocked been that effective. But I think
that you know, each candidate needs to prove something to
those who are reluctant to support their candidacies that are
on the fence. Believe it or not, there are people
like that, and so for Joe Biden, this debate is
very important to determine for those skeptical people that he
has the wherewithal to be president for another four years.
(03:36):
Donald Trump, I think, you know, we saw those debates
that took place in the twenty twenty cycle. In I
think that if his advisors were advising him as it
relates to twenty twenty four, they would say probably two
words to the former president, which is relax and calm down. Right,
They just say calm down, mister president, because he needs
(03:56):
to look presidential. That is an important element for those
people that are reluctant to support him in the twenty
twenty four elections.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Like I guess, just to remake my point because when
they got a couple of minutes left, I like ninety minutes.
That's you know, that's a good time frame. I like
only two commercial breaks. I like no consulting during the
commercial breaks. I like when one's talking the other mic
is off because the constant interrupting and talking over each other,
the no studio audience that one is interesting because it's
(04:25):
gonna for these candidates. They're not gonna get instant feedback,
so they're gonna have to, you know, keep their own momentum,
their own energy level, and it's going to force them
to talk to us instead of to the crowd or
play to the crowd. What I'm getting at is these
are all very special rules, and they were being set
and they've been agreed to. It may show us a
formula that could actually make this about ideas versus theater,
(04:49):
if you know what I mean. So I'm actually very
interested in watching this, not necessarily conspiracy theorists as much
as I'm very interested. I want to see a substance
of to debate. I want to get beyond personalities. I
want to get beyond tactics and let's get to the solutions.
And this could force.
Speaker 7 (05:05):
It could be good, It could be good. And yet
we haven't seen what the debate rules exactly are for
the second presidential debate that will be hosted by ABC News,
that will be in New York City, and that will
be on September the tenth, so closer and closer to
election day. I think that ABC is going to follow
suit and also have that their debate without a studio
(05:28):
audience as well. But we'll see what other types of
rules they come up with ahead of their debate. But
these are the rules that both Donald Trump and Joe
Biden have to prepare for. For Joe Biden, I can
tell you he's going to take some time away from
the White House to head out to Camp David to
do some debate prep, a number of days of debate prep.
I don't know what the plans are for Donald Trump.
(05:49):
I think he likes to think that he can wing it.
But even if you're good at debates, and I think
that a few election cycles ago we saw this. Even
if you think you're good at debate, you still need
to prepare. And I want to remind you, Michael, do
you remember the first presidential debate? It was Mitt Romney
versus Barack Obama, and Mitt Romney clean Barack Obama's clock.
And the reason why Mitt Romney very prepared and Barack
(06:12):
Obama was not prepared for that first presidential beal. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
And Barack Obama thought too. He was a great winger,
and he usually was, but that night he wasn't. We'll
see what they learned from it, all right, The only
thing that's not going to be affected is the moderators.
Moderators have been somewhat of an issue. They'll have even
more control in this type of setting. But I don't know.
I actually think we may have stumbled on something here.
But I'm going to wait and hold reserve my comments
(06:36):
till after it happens. But if it leads to a
substance of discussion, I would certainly welcome. When is the
first debate, It is ten.
Speaker 7 (06:44):
Days from now. It is on June the twenty seventh,
in his Atlanta. It hosted by CNN. The moderators Jake
Tapper of Dana Bash, And I think for them, they
have to do some preparation too, Michael. They have to
make sure that they're not a part of the story.
They want to sort of step back and let these Canadas,
these presidential hopefuls make the points the points that they
wish to make during the course of these ninety minutes
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without stepping on the toes of anybody. And if you
fact check one, you have to fact check the other.
I think that's an important element of being a moderator
for these presidential debates.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Couldn't have said it better myself. John Decker, welcome back,
all right, fourteen minutes after the hour. Thanks for waking
up with your morning show. You know, for me, the
lack of true moderators has been the biggest problem with debates.
These aren't authentic moderators. So what happens is is you
(07:38):
get a left leaning one if it's CNN, you get
a right leaning one, really more of an establishment republican
leaning one when it's Fox. Sometimes Fox tries to play
a little bit more fair. But John just hit all
the aspects. We haven't had a moderator that made it
about the candidates, let alone what they should be making
it about us. They should be more interested in us
(08:02):
getting whatever we need to get to make our choice,
rather than try to steer our choice. We don't have that,
and you won't have it in this you'll have less
distraction from the crowd. I actually think there's a reason
why the administration forced these rules. And I happen to
be dealing with somebody dealing with dementia right now, and
(08:26):
I can tell you they can't be in a loud room,
So there's a reason why they wanted that room quiet.
They're not trying to reenact the Kennedy Nixon debates. They
have somebody of a certain cognitive ability and age that
has to be in a less stimulated room. Donald Trump
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is somebody that always gets his energy from the crowd.
Let's see how it affects his energy. It could very
well have a very good impact for Donald Trump, because
Donald Trump is a very far more than you think,
a very compassionate person, and so he may be more
(09:09):
human and less abusive if you will. Now, there's one
way this could backfire on both of them. First of all,
in all of those rules, the one thing we didn't
bring up. They're not allowing Robert F. Kennedy. And if
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both men perform poorly, see in all debates, and it
doesn't matter who the candidates are or what year or
what election cycle, you want to have a couple of
really good moments, memorable sound bites. Remember we used to
call Ronald Reagan the sound bite President. Well, here you
(09:51):
go again. You know how Ronald Reagan addressed his older age.
I want to talk about the elephant in the room.
Speaker 8 (10:01):
I will not make my opponent's age and inexperience an
issue in this campaign. And everybody cracked up, including his opponent, So.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
You don't want. You want to avoid any bad moments.
You want to have one or two good moments. What
if both look old? What if both perform poorly? What
does that do a few months out from the election.
I don't know what Joe Biden could do to resurrect
(10:36):
a thirty seven percent approval rating. But remember, at the
very beginning, and this is a proclivity that still lives
under the surface, nobody wanted the rematch. Seventy percent of
America did not want Donald Trump versus Joe Biden, too,
and that's exactly what they got. Now. I think a
(10:58):
lot has changed. For all the attacks on Donald Trump,
for all the lawfare attacks that have all failed, they
have made him the underdog. They have made him the victim.
And look how it worked. You got your best Donald
Trump tied up in court. You got a very concise
(11:22):
I mean, he literally out campaigned Joe Biden locked in
a courtroom. Because it was just the right amount. We
call it the Elaine effect. Elaine in a short visit
in a scene of Seinfeld perfect. If you did the
whole show with the Elaine character, it'd be exhausting. Same
thing with Kramer. It was just the right amount of
(11:43):
Donald Trump. Look what it did for him financially, Look
what it did from in the polls. I don't think
Donald Trump is in the same place he was a
year ago. I don't want either. I think he is
impassioned a lot of support. I actually think he's got
as much passion and momentum or more than twenty sixteen.
(12:10):
And this time Joe Biden doesn't have nearly the presumption
or the momentum of Hillary Clinton. And that was a disaster.
But what if both don't turn in a memorable moment?
Would have both turn in some bad moments? Would have
both look old? How's that gonna play? In a quiet
(12:32):
television studio with no crowd and no distraction. This is
your morning show with Michael del Chrono. Thanks for waking
up with your morning show. So many ways to communicate
with us. You can call one eight hundred six eight
ninety five twenty two, toll free eight hundred six eight
eight ninety five twenty two. There's a talkback button for
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those of you who's in the iHeart app. And of
course there's old fashion email Michael D at iHeartMedia dot com,
where Kathy writes, I actually kind of liked the idea
of Trump's mike being muted while Biden is speaking. Some
of Trump's worst moments and previous debates have been when
he loses his temper and interrupts Biden. Listen. What I
think Catherine brings up is is this question. Everything the
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left has tried to do now, everything they did in
the shadow campaign to say the democracy worked. Everything this
time they've been doing, from law fare, you name it, failing.
Now they get their special debate, their special debate rules.
It is the year of backfire after all. Hey, the
(13:37):
leader of Hamas says the group may be ready for
a comprehensive deal for a ceasefire in Gaza, that is,
if you give them victory, even though they've lost. Mark
Mayfield reports is.
Speaker 9 (13:48):
Mile Hania made the comments during a televised speech on Sunday.
Along with a ceasefire, he also called for a comprehensive
swamp of his ringy hostages for Palestinian prisoners, as well
as for Israel to withdrawal from Gaza and to rebuild.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
What was destroyed.
Speaker 9 (14:03):
There has been no formal response you had from Israel
or the US. I'm Mark Mayfield.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Now here's what nobody likes to acknowledge. Are we in
a holy war? A fifteen hundred year holy war? What
would be the worst nightmare if all these individual Islamist
sects unite. One of the worst stories rumoring around is
here comes has be a lot and you'll hear read
(14:29):
the Washington Post. They'll tell you, Oh, here's a much
more formidable opponent for Israel. You mean, a much more
threat to world, the world and world peace. And if
they all unite along with Iran and other Muslim nations.
Tick tick tick trip trip trip. Can't figure out whose
(14:51):
side you're on? Careful you may be the next target.
Might help you make your decision. Meanwhile, in another war,
the US is setting an additional one point five billion
dollars to aid to the Ukraine. Lisa Carton has details.
Speaker 10 (15:02):
Vice President Kamala Harris made the announcement Saturday at a
global summit in Switzerland. Of that money, five hundred million
dollars will go towards repairing and protecting energy infrastructure damage
during the Russian invasion. About three hundred and eighty million
dollars will be used to provide humanitarian assistance for refugees
and communities impacted by the war.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
I'm Lisa Carton. Never mind a thousand pardons. Maryland Governor
Wes Morris planning to issue one hundred and seventy five
thousand marijuana conviction pardons. Tammy Trihilo has details.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Moore set in an interview with The Washington Post that
it would be a step to heal decades of social
and economic injustice that disproportionately harmed people of color. The
pardons will mark one of the country's largest clemency acts
involving marijuana. I'm Tammy Trihello.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
For President of Barack Obama, says he mostly watches sports now.
Uh is a very cynical time. I'm not political. I
mostly watched sports. That's what he told the Biden campaign
fundraiser Saturday night in Los Angeles. He went on to
add to the room, which was mostly made up of
social media creators, that he feels a lot of the
people who watch their content feel turned off by the
(16:13):
political discourse because it's a cynical time. That's why I
only watch sports. Now. This justin. We were all born yesterday,
and we're all bad drivers. Pre Tennis is here with
that story.
Speaker 11 (16:25):
The Society of Automotive Engineers has listed the three most
annoying habits behind the wheel, and you're probably doing them.
They say forty eight percent of drivers don't use their
turn signal, and that's the most annoying trait. Eighty percent tailgate,
another eighty percent use their phone, all while driving a
four thousand pound vehicle, probably over the posted speed limit too.
(16:45):
On the plus side, they say ninety one point nine
percent of us use the seatbelt.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
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(17:12):
Gigi and Tulsa requested I sing Barry Manilo Mandy on
his eighty first birthday. Actually I sang I write the
songs that make the whole world thing. I didn't sing Mandy. Mandy,
by the way, a song that was originally not written
by Barry Manilo, was originally written Brandy is that true? Yes,
(17:32):
and Barry Manilo changed it to Mandy instead. Obviously a
big Mandy patankin fan Um. Well, if you look at
the Biden economy, what's the only thing you can really
point to that's doing well the stock market, which is
exactly why the Democrats want to tax all of that.
Aeron Rayal is here. Yes, they are in the business
of growing government and growing government revenue rather than the economy.
(17:55):
Here's another example of it. All right, so we don't
have a spec problem. We obviously have a revenue problem.
So let's just find someone to tax. Well, there's a
good target.
Speaker 6 (18:07):
We have a problem with both.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
To be honest, we spend too much and we probably
tax too much. So Congress is actually right now wrestling
with this looming decision over trillions of bucks in expiring
tax breaks. They're going to expire in twenty twenty five,
and without any action from Congress, more than sixty percent
of filers will pay higher taxes next year. So Democrats
(18:29):
are proposing higher taxes on corporations and wealthy Americans. Specifically,
they're looking at stock buybacks, capital gains, corporate tax rate,
and then the good old carried interests we've heard about
this one before. This is essentially where private equity firms
venture capital hedge funds. They're paid as an incentive compensation
to the fund's general partner with a limited partner. So
(18:52):
essentially you align interest between the people giving you money
you investing in it. If the deal goes well, you
make a bunch of money, and then you have something
called carried interest. It's considered a return on investment, so
it's taxed as a capital gain rather than ordinary income
at a much much much lower rate, sometimes zero percent.
And because this carried interest is distributed after a period
(19:15):
of years, it deffers tax and in a way that
is like an unrealized capital gain.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
All right, corporate tax. Right, first question is how do
our rates compare to other countries where we seemingly are
losing jobs to This would make a bad area even worse,
would it not.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Oh, it's a hard one to answer very quickly, because
you know, when you look.
Speaker 5 (19:37):
At multi billion dollar corporations that pay close to zero
percent and tax saying.
Speaker 6 (19:41):
Like no, like that's not a good it doesn't really
work like that.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
And then or other places like let's say the Cayman
Islands that has no income tax, the quality like they
get their tax in other ways or even like let's
look at a better one that's like a more functioning
and not just a tax even, but like a Singapore
which has a flat tax.
Speaker 6 (20:01):
Which is fine.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
So it's like you're paying let's say twenty percent across
the board. But then things like a car like and
I know this because I live there, If you want
a Honda Civic, it costs I'm not joking around one
hundred thousand dollars because they tax luxury items like a
car but not even like a fancy one, or they'll
tax booze like incredible, incredibly high amount. So yeah, I
have to get paid as a government, is the point
(20:22):
I'm trying to make.
Speaker 6 (20:23):
And is it okay for.
Speaker 5 (20:24):
The largest corporations in the world, the greatest corporations arguably
based here to be taxed in zero percent, while someone
making two hundred fifty thousand dollars has to give you
more than forty percent of their income?
Speaker 6 (20:35):
Like does that seem right? Probably not either.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
There has to be a better way to solve this,
and it's not what we have right now in terms
of the corporate tax structure.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
I am going to be turning. I shouldn't give my age.
It makes me sound old, but I have young children,
so it kept me young. But I'm getting ready to
turn sixty years old. And I wasn't even alive when
the last president really explained this well, and that was
John F. Kennedy. And that is the difference between growing
the government as the priority and growing revenue for the
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government as the priority, or growing the economy, which is
the best way to fund the government efficiently. And so
John F. Kennedy said, here, we are in a recession,
and it seems like that's the time to raise taxes. Well,
just the opposite is true, that's the time to lower taxes.
That morally, we got to understand that when people work
and earn money, it's theirs, and then we have to
(21:26):
trust them and how they'll spend it. They'll pay down
their debt and they'll buy things. And as they buy things,
businesses grow. As businesses grow, they expand, As they expand,
they hire more. Taxpayers burned less is the most effective
way to fund government. Now, you can be political and
narrativized every day, but the truth of the matter is,
for all the demonization of the Trump's tax cuts, it
(21:48):
actually increased revenue for the government, just like it did
with Reagan, just like it did with Kennedy. So my
problem with all of this is when you don't address
all of it, because there's two questions that are never asked.
What is the proper size and role of government? And
then what is the role and responsibility of the self
governed if anybody even understands what self governed is anymore.
(22:11):
And so if you don't address the spending and you
only try to address the revenue, you're not going to
get there. You got to do both simultaneously. But right
now they're going to I guess what the big argument
is over, and I think they're taking somewhat and all
of the above approach, capital gains, the interest tax, all
of the above. And then I guess the other thing
(22:32):
I would ask you is twenty twenty five is when
it expires? I guess that depends on who wins the
election in November two.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
Right, Yes, that is a big part of it.
Speaker 5 (22:41):
And you just explain that really beautifully in like a
short period of time.
Speaker 6 (22:44):
I commend you for that.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
But you make such a good point too that it's
like you want to know how you balanced the budget.
Speaker 6 (22:50):
Because here's the thing.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
If we extend these taxes, apparently like extend these tax breaks.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
We're going to add four point six trillion to.
Speaker 6 (22:58):
The deficit over ten years.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
That's not great either, But you make a very astute
observation that it's like, you have to do both. You
have to cut spending, but know what, you also have
to raise taxes when things are good and the market
is doing well. There now everyone's furious also taking for
saying that, but like we did it in the nineties
and we balance the budget. You have to cut spending
and you have to raise taxes, whether.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
It's on the corporations that pay their little.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
Or the billionaires. And you don't want to demonize the rich.
You don't want to live in a country where the
rich have to live behind gates with armored cars, and
you know that's not good either. You want to get
to a place where the richer, not get to a
place you want to be. It's like, no, we could
all be that if we work. Theoretically it's not going
to happen, but the idea of being like it's something
to aspire to and not demonize. But paying your fair
(23:45):
share is an important part of this too without total redistribution.
And then also another part of this equation, they're discussing
taxes on unrealized gains. This one always I'm like, what,
how can they even do that? Because this is like
basically profits on unsold's. That's very hard because you literally
don't have the cash do some people do. But the
idea of being like, oh, you're you're let's say your
(24:07):
four to oh one K performed extraordinarily well and you're
text on that even though you haven't sold anything, I
think for one case would be different. But the idea
of being like, just because you did well means now
you're going to get hit even if you didn't sell.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
I was watching it. I was watching one of these
I have one area. I have to be cared. Andrew
just discovered wordle and she says it's like crack cocaine.
Once you start, you can't stop. It's everything to put
your phone down. For me, the only thing that suckers
me in is the reels. Like if I'm on Facebook
and I hit a reel and then it knows everything
I love and so every time I flip one, and
(24:42):
then you get into this twenty second sound bite mentality,
and I'll slip in a little Johnny Carson or something. Well,
one that popped up was this guy and he's talking
about your four o one K. And so let's say
you get a million dollars and your four one k.
Most people don't, but let's say you have a million dollars.
You think you're a millionaire. Well you don't know because
you're not taking the money yet. And when you do
take the money twenty years from now, you don't know
what tax rates on that it could be changed to.
(25:03):
So that's not real money necessarily yet. And so that's
the game. I'll never forget. I was very young, and
I've been poor, and I've been and I've made a
lot of money, and I'm indifferent to both. In fact,
the happier years were the poorer years. But that's a
whole other story. But there was one point where it's
making a lot of money and a lot of money
and a lot of money. What did I do. I
(25:24):
just spent more and more and more, and then I
was constantly stressed and constantly scrambling to make more and
more and more. And then one day I'm sitting at
lunch and I go, you know, what I don't have
to make more money. I seem to spend less and
it was like an epiphany. That's what a punk I was,
and an idiot, and I find government doing that. If
you don't address the spending, then you're on the mouse
(25:44):
wheel trying to find ways to raise revenue when the
real solution is spend less and it takes the stress
off of that. There's never in all the above. Remember
the good old days when we talked about a fair
tax or a flat tax. I wish that would come
up again.
Speaker 6 (26:00):
That's like, that sounds right to me.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
I highly recommend you take the kids to Cedar Point
in uh Sandusky, Ohio. Best roller coasters on planet Earth.
The only bad part I had to be away from
the radio show for a week. But it's good to
be back, and it's good to be back with you.
You got it all right. I'm gonna do a final
say coming up in just a second. But first things first,
(26:25):
let's get in our top five stories at the day,
and they are everything's the boogeyman, right, and so if
you elect him, he won't leave. If you elect them
a court that's already out of balance, to get more
out of balance, boogeyman, boogeyman, scare, scare, scare. I got
(26:46):
to give you a reason to vote for me without
bringing me up. That's what Joe Biden did with a
star studded fundraiser.
Speaker 9 (26:52):
Road to the White House twenty twenty four. President Biden
is criticizing the conservative majority Supreme Court. At a fundraiser
in Laws Angelis Saturday, the President said the court was
out of step. The Supreme Court has never been as
out of kilder as it is today. Biden also warned
that if former President Trump is elected, he would appoint
(27:12):
more justices flying flags upside down, a reference to conservative
Justice Samuel Alito, who's been embroiled in controversy over political
flags flown.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
At his home.
Speaker 9 (27:21):
The comments were made at a star studded fundraiser featuring
former President Obama as well as various A list celebrities,
including George Clooney and Julia Roberts. Biden's campaign says the
event race a record breaking thirty million dollars from Democratic donors.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
I'm Markneyfield, but would make everything about race. And we're
already playing loose with eternity and moral relativism versus God.
So what's the big deal with legal relativism. Doesn't matter
what they did and it was against the law. Now
we think merrik on Wan is okay. So we have
one hundred and seventy five thousand pardons in Maryland alone.
(27:56):
Tammy Trehuilo has details Moore set.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
In an interview with The Washington Post that it would
be a step to heal decades of social and economic
injustice that disproportionately harmed people of color. The pardons will
mark one of the country's largest clemency acts involving marijuana.
I'm Tammy Trihio.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
The Outsiders was the best musical Stereophonic was named the
year's Best play at the twenty twenty four Tony Awards.
Inside Out two was tops at the box office for Pixar.
The sequel scored one hundred and fifty five million dollars
in its opening weekend, would be the first release to
earn a nine figure domestic opening in almost eleven months.
Bad Boys A Riod Died. Does he slap anybody in
(28:34):
that movie? I don't know. I don't now they've thrown
Chris Rock in a cameo and Will Smith slaps him.
I might go see it. That came in second, and
Kingdom of the Plan of the Apes came in third
at the box office over the weekend. The pulp apparently
has a funny bone. After meeting with comedians from around
the world to discuss the importance of humor, Rob Mardier
has more.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
The Pontiff met with Jimmy Fallon, Stephen Colbert, Whoopy Goldberg,
Chris rock In, dozens of other comedians at the Vatican Friday.
He told the group that they have the power to
spread peace and smiles when there was so much gloomy news.
He also said it's not blasphemy to laugh at God.
After his message, the comedians got a chance to meet
the Pope, shake his hands and say a few words
and the blessing in disguise what p Goldberg said she
(29:18):
did not ask Pope Francis if he would star in
Sister Act three.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
I'm Rob Martyr, Rob Beta Funny. Then did you catch that?
Celebrity chef Gordon Ramsey says he's lucky to be alive
after he crashed his bike last week in Connecticut.
Speaker 12 (29:31):
Jacqueline Carl reports Ramsey posted a video on social media
where he urged followers to always wear a helmet, showing
before and after pictures of his own helmet and tatters.
He also lifted his shirt to reveal his entire left
side was seriously bruised. Ramsey says recovery has been brutal,
but thanked the doctors and nurses who treated him at
(29:51):
the hospital.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Jacqueline Carl, NBC News Radio, you see the pictures of
his torso horrible. It looks like Rocky balbo Is training
or his Apollo Creed fight. That was nasty, all right.
I don't know how after losing the first three games,
the Mavericks won by thirty eight Friday night, but they
force the game five or were the Celtics just laying
(30:13):
down so they could win at home? We'll find out tonight.
Game five Tonight at seven thirty on ABC. Celtics win.
The Celtics are your NBA champions and the NHL same thing.
Florida gets off to a three to nothing lead, they
go on the road, they lose eight to one. Have
to pull their best goalie. Now they're headed back to Sunset, Florida,
(30:33):
where they can win at home and hoist the Lord
Stanley Cup if they get a win tomorrow night, and
the US Open. Well, it was amazing. Bryce and d
Chambeau wins out over Rory mcklboy Rory McIlroy by one
stroke at Pinehurst two. It's his second US Open championship.
But to do it, I mean, think of the odds
to do it on the twenty fifth anniversary when Payn
(30:55):
Stewart did it at the same course and that's his hero. Well,
that becomes our sound of the day, Bryson D Chambeau
after the championship win.
Speaker 13 (31:03):
Look, it was just an honor to play some tough
golf against the best in the world. And man, it's
a lot of fun when we get to do that.
I'm I couldn't be more more proud of the USGA
for the way that they ran this event. What a
fantastic venue. The fans were incredible and man, my dad
in Pain. I kept thinking about them all day.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
What were you thinking?
Speaker 4 (31:26):
What they meant to.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Me and to the game. Pain inspired me to go
to SMU.
Speaker 13 (31:31):
Once I saw his miron the wall at SMU, I
decided to go there right then and there, and so
I wore the cap for him. I still view him
as my hero, and my dad is my hero as well.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Twenty five years after Payne. Stuart wins two weeks before
his death in an aviation accident. The man who idolizes
him wins the US Open. That's that's a semendipitous US
Open ball areas of your morning show interest. The Cardinals
beat the Cubs at Wrigley two to one. NAT's one
three to one over the Marlins, raise one eighty six
over the Braves, d Backs twelve five outslugged the White Sox.
(32:09):
Mariners won five zip to the Rangers. You're thinking, did
all of our cities win? Well, obviously not. The Rangers
lost and the Guardians lost seven six of the Blue Jays.
As we mentioned, birthdays today. Barry Manilow eighty one years
old today, former speaker Nude Gingrich also eighty one. Tennis
great Venus Williams forty four, Hip hopper Kendrick Lamar is
thirty seven. This is Steam the Wrestler, a refugee from
(32:32):
the People's Republic of Minnesota. And my morning show is
your Morning Show with Michael del Jordan. Final say time,
Bill wrote, just a few minutes ago, what was the
name of that song that you played earlier? Tom McDonald
me versus you, I'm gonna play a one minute of it.
I think no song, and I compared it to What's
going On by Marvin Gaye capturing the troubles of the sixties.
(32:56):
This is America today in song. It's a brilliant song.
It is all the narratives you're gonna hear. You see
it in newspapers, you see it online, you see it
when you're watching television, cable news, or even when you're
listening to talk radio. Narratives and fighting shirts and skins,
us versus you hating each other. And while we're busy fighting,
(33:19):
we're not solving a thing. Listen, I'm the one that.
Speaker 14 (33:23):
You hate for making America great and I'm the one
who's trying to build back better.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
We ain't the same.
Speaker 14 (33:27):
Yeah, you're right, there's a difference, y'all are woking, We're awake.
What it's Joe, does white privilege.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Have something to say? Your president needs old. The country
ain't to the ground. The prime rate is through the
roof the rainbow. Jobs to be found in facing going up.
My kids they food in their mouth.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
You put the fake news on every TV.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Freedom.
Speaker 14 (33:42):
Hold up, you're president, a racist, homophobic, tried to overthrow
democracy and everybody knows that he will never make America
great again, like the slogan you have white supremice.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
It's just like all of you who voted.
Speaker 6 (33:53):
That is not a fact.
Speaker 14 (33:54):
All you wote morons do is talk trash drag queens
in classrooms. Anyone who's not voting pro white You know
that's what the AD members are, right, you're anti LGBTQ.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Than why they always on your mind? Bro, you're a boy,
you're a girl. I'mthingy souping. You're screwing up the youth
and all the children are future. You don't care about
the kids.
Speaker 14 (34:09):
Look at all the school shooting. It's your pro gun,
it's your false stuff making those excuse you.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Think anyone who don't agree with you with system thinking.
Speaker 14 (34:16):
You're a fascist, You're a non you're just man because
you three, you're just jealous of the least, because we're
progressive and we're planning.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
Now.
Speaker 14 (34:21):
I'm tripping that you won the election because you're right.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
They do.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
They let you on the right.
Speaker 14 (34:27):
They tell you what they hate.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Did they tell you who to live?
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Are you scream?
Speaker 6 (34:30):
Man?
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Scream? It's a brilliant song. I put it on my
Facebook wall. If you want to share it with others.
Some two million have already seen it. Will three hundred
and sixty wake up to it and stop this nonsense.
All this hate fighting just continues their rule and it's
solving nothing. We're all in this together. This is your
Morning Show with Michael Held. Join now.
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