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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Starting your morning off right.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
A new way of talk, a new way of understanding
because we're in this stage. This is your morning show
with Michael beel Charny seven minutes after the hour. Is
so good to be back with you. This is your
morning show. This is your Tuesday, June the seventeenth, twenty
twenty five. If you're just waking up, here's pretty much
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how it lays out. The President is at the G seven.
He leaves early. The leaders of the G seven agree
Iron should never have a nuclear weapon. Israel's ensuring that's
the case, but they also give the credible support that
Israel has a right to defend herself.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
That's good.
Speaker 5 (01:07):
Then the French president says, well, Trump had to lead
because he's going to negotiate a ceasefire in peace. And
the President makes it very clear, no, they had their
chance to talk. It's a shame and it's a waste
of human life. Simply stated, Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon.
I set it over and over again. Now everyone should
immediately evacuate Tran. The President went on to stay on
the plane that he's not going back to negotiate peace.
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He's going back to meet with his national security team
in the situation room. And there's something much bigger coming
that begs the question, what is the endgame to Operation
Rising Lion and how close are we to the end?
The decapitation of virtually every command leadership position, and I
think ballistic missile capabilities as well as the enriched uranium facilities,
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missile assembly facilities. There is that one last area of
interfusions that are about a half a mile underground. You
wonder if that's the next step. To Lieutenant Colonel James Carafana,
we go time for talk shows to shut up an
expert to speak. Yes, everybody has said from the for
as long as I've been in talk radio, Aran is
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the most predictable threat to the Middle East, to the region,
and to the world, and they cannot be allowed to
become nuclear. That talk has been cheap for decades. Israel's
finally done something. Why now and how effective have they been?
Speaker 6 (02:30):
Well this is let me look for the Iranian perspective.
So the big mistake that the Iranians made is they
put all their money in offense and nothing in defense.
And the most effective strategic deterrent is what's called the
offense defense mix, which is not only can I punch
you in the face, but if you try to punch me,
I can block that. So what the Iranians really counted
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on is not just their the threat of ballistic missiles
and eventually it's sort of a nuclear weapon, but that
they could unleash all these surrogates on on Israel and
so that if Israel ever dared an attack Ron, then
suddenly they you know, they would be attacked by Hamas
and has blah and uh, you know, the hooties and
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and they know and the and of course all those
guys have been pretty much hammered in the you know
paste so and and the ballistic missile threat, as as
the arrange as the Israels and demonstrat is actually quite manageable.
So as soon as Israeli started taking out their UH
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limit very limited defense and capabilities, the Iranians had nothing
to protect themselves.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
And so you know, it's kind of this is an
unfair fight right now.
Speaker 6 (03:43):
You know, they can't they can't invade Israel because Israel
is hundreds of miles away through a couple of countries,
and their surrogates can't attack for them.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
So and they were close to having a nuclear weapons so.
Speaker 6 (03:55):
Honestly, and Donald Trump was president of the United States,
I said this, and I said this on your show.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Yeah, the smart play for Ron.
Speaker 6 (04:05):
Was to have declared nuclear status last year when Joe
Biden was still president, because he not only we have
done nothing, he would have restrained the Israeli from doing anything.
And then a year later Donald Trump would committed his
president they said, oh, we got any clear upon so
we're going to do better. And that would have made
the world a very different place. But they didn't do that.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
Lieutenant Colonel James Carafano joining us from the Heritage Foundation,
largest think tank in the world, and I think the
most brilliant military and foreign policy mind in America today.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
He hates when I say that.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
You'd have been very proud of us on Friday because
I talked in depth about the brilliance of this plan.
Where the US pounded the huthies, Israel carried out a
pounding of hamas in all of the surrogates, and I said,
just that they don't have the surrogates to respond. They've
taken out all of their offensive systems. They have been strategic.
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I mean, I'm in awe of the level of intelligence
and the precision of the strikes. I mean literally to
take a commander out at his desk and the lobby's
still intact. I mean it ought to be here, and
then it since happened. Even the replacement for the commander
of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard has already been taken out.
It's as if they could get to anything they wanted.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Now.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
It begs this question this morning, what is left in
Operation Rising Lion, Because other than regime change or taking
out those centrifugees underground, I can't think of what is
possibly left.
Speaker 6 (05:31):
Well, you know me because I hate to speculate, I
really do, because I don't know. I just said I
don't know, but you raise two good points. If you're
asking why would the president go back? What are the
two things on the table that the US was, Oh,
where we really need to kind of make some decisions
prep for this.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
What are they?
Speaker 6 (05:50):
What is does the regime collapse which creates a whole
serious situations. And the other is, okay, there are there's
a handful of targets that you know, haven't been taken out,
are open and naked, and they're there, and we do
we help the Israelis kind of do that or figure
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that out or or do it for him, and and
uh and there's somebody rush in and secure some of
these nuclear sites if the regime collapses or whatever. Those
are kind of presidential level decisions that you probably can't.
You know, they take these little bubble skips with them
wherever they go. It's like a little tent inside the room,
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and the president can go in there and have secure communications.
But that's the level of coordination with your team that
probably you can't.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Yeah, I respectfully, Yeah, I agree with you.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
Although when the president was on the plane and of
course couldn't resist a jab. But the French president, nice
guy does not always right, not often right? Actually, Uh no,
I'm going back to meet with my national security team
in the situation room, and it's much bigger. So if
it's much bigger than peace, it's unfinished business, then then
I piece that together with US Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth
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announcing that he ordered the deployment of additional defense capabilities
to the Middle East. Of course, part of that is refueling.
Refueling is usually for planes to hit targets. So you know,
I'm kind of you know, I wasn't born yesterday, and
I've been taught by the best you So I mean,
I'm kind of figuring it's regimemed. You bring up something
I hadn't thought of. If this regime falls, somebody's got
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to go and secure whatever dangerous weaponry is naked right now.
Speaker 6 (07:37):
Right And my pet is really who knows, you know,
And actually, look, I think obviously there are worst case
scenarios right where the collapse of the regime leads to,
you know, things that we hadn't really considered, like see
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the one third of Iran that is Ozzer by Johnny
suddenly declaring it's an independent state or something like that,
which would kind of send ripples all those but by
and large I think you know, uh, you know this,
will you know this?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
This could the.
Speaker 6 (08:18):
Regime change could be a manageable challenge.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
And so you have two prospects.
Speaker 6 (08:26):
One is that the regime falls, the other one that
doesn't if it If it doesn't fall, the nuclear threat
is still on the table.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
But and then the question is.
Speaker 6 (08:35):
How far back down the road do you want to
push that off? And of course the more sites, the
more capabilities should take out, the more sanctions you're going
to have. The hardest going to be then for the
rebuild the further you push that down the road.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (08:51):
So, Yeah, every day the regime doesn't collapse is probably
means that they might.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Survive because the two things you look for are.
Speaker 6 (09:04):
The collapse of uh people in charge and two kind
of people doing stuff in the streets and soldiers kind
of laying down their arms and walking away. So those
are the two telltale signs you look for. So we
have seen the regime try to, you know, re establish
command and control.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
As you mentioned, the lack of guy that put another
guy in the whack.
Speaker 6 (09:27):
That guy reminds me of that remember when they used
to say the number three guy in ol Kaeda is
and then the next thing.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Uh so, uh, but.
Speaker 6 (09:35):
But I would say every day the regime the regime
survives is probably another day that the more it makes
it more likely that they will survive. I don't I
don't think there's a deal because it would be completely
humiliating if the regime survives for them to cut a deal,
because in that deal, they would have to basically get
everything away, and it would clearly be.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
A humiliating defeat.
Speaker 6 (09:59):
So it's more likely is there's kind of a quiet deal, right,
So if the regime survives, they don't actually make a deal,
but they but everybody just stops killing each other.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
Closing moment, closing, Yeah, I was just saying closing moments
with Lieutenant Colonel James Carafano. All Right, as you mentioned
and I mentioned at first, but you mentioned and referenced it,
Al Rashid is taken out, then they insert SHADMANI he's
taken out.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
How's it to be the third guy now in line?
Speaker 5 (10:28):
But I mean I could countless but fifteen top leaders
of both the Revolutionary Guard and their military taken out.
This kind of intelligence and this kind of you know,
unknown ground capability and precision makes you wonder if they
could have taken out the Supreme Io Tola and have
chosen not to and why.
Speaker 6 (10:50):
Uh yeah, that's all just speculation. I don't know the
answer to that.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
There's there's see. Yeah. I mean what is clear is.
Speaker 6 (11:06):
The Israeli spent years kind of prepping for this, yes,
and what's changed is the conditions on the ground have
allowed and then pull this trigger. So it's not like
the Israelis were working relentlessly towards this day. It's like
they were preparing for this day and then the situation
happened that they could do this.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
But you know, this raises another super interesting question.
Speaker 6 (11:26):
If they put this kind of meticulous capability and resources
in place, why didn't they pick up on October seventh?
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Oh my god in heaven right did you wait a minute?
Wait a minute? Read did you hear that?
Speaker 5 (11:40):
Okay, that is the question I wanted to ask you,
and I didn't want to put you in that position
in seventy markets at once.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
But yeah, means motive opportunity.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
The motive is your enemy has almost the means to
take you out, and they're saying they're going to So
that's a clear and present danger. Opportunity was October seventh
opened the door for this progression. And that what I
mean because I'll I'll.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Just say it now that you said it.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
The level of intelligence and precision I mean, I'm when
I say that, I'm not being dramatic. They took out
the leader of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard at his desk,
and then the rest of the buildings intact that kind
of you pull that off. You knew October seventh was coming.
I didn't want to say that out loud.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Well, I don't know if that's true.
Speaker 6 (12:38):
It may be that they had so much focus on
the run and these other things that they took their
rye off the ball.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Because remember, the whole idea was we're going.
Speaker 6 (12:47):
To engage in these guys and we're going to let them,
you know, travel and have jobs and stuff. So maybe
they took the right off the ball. And the reason
why I think this is is, look look at you know,
with these kind of hidden drones and unexpected attack means
and the pagers and everything else that we see the
Ukrainians do that we see the Israelis. Do you know
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that everybody else is going to school on that. So
here we are in the United States, good for good
for us. We are focused on Ukraine, We're focused on
the Middle East, We're focused on illegal immigrants, We're focused
on that.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
We're focused on China.
Speaker 6 (13:23):
But are we paying attention to all these other quote
unquote methods of hybrid warfare that that people may come
after us? You know, we just had news today about
the Chinese were actually trying to you know, screw with
the with the election, and the FBI actually allegedly knew
about that. So are there things that we are doing
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in the United States where we are distracted and we're
taking our eye off the October seventh?
Speaker 5 (13:52):
All right, I only I only I only have I
only have thirty seconds. But if you're going to go there,
I'm going to go there. Let me ask another question
that would be free to say over the air to you,
and that is, you know, we talk about the pounding
of the hooi's the pounding of Amas. They don't have
their circuits to attack Israel, But we don't know what
the heck's in our country. Did the president return home
because of a threat to American soil?
Speaker 4 (14:14):
That that might be And I don't know, but that would.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
Be a wouldn't that be a concern of you, of
yours too, and more more vulnerable than Israel right now.
Speaker 6 (14:23):
Yeah, I don't I don't know that, but but that's
but you have to think about that. You've got to
because you know, as you mentioned, the bad guys are
going to try to find a way. If you show
up one side, they're going to look another place to
come after you. And you've got to be on this
twenty four seven, three sixty five, which by the way,
is just an around of time. But all these you know,
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court injunctions, when you're trying to do national security, all
this other nonsense, playing politics and everything, it distracts people
from you know, DEI, yes, all this, it distracts people
from the day job. And the one thing you don't
want to do is you don't want to do.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Yeah, nineteen hijackers reminded us of that.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
It's your morning show with Michael del Choano.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
Let me lay this out for you, Operation Rising Lion,
Why now and oh how well it was done with
such precision? What's left because regime change and securing any
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dangerous materials in a regime change, or one last one
or two or three targets, especially that half mile underground
center viewge facility. Can all be that the only thing
that lies ahead, and you know, all we can do
is wait and watch. But the President returned from the
(15:53):
G seven to seven in Canada to meet in person
with his National Security Council. So our questions are, I'm
I'm not worried about Israel uh, and I'm not worried
about any Iranian attacks. I am a little concerned about
who might be in our country that we don't know,
and something happening in America. Are all these related? These
are all the dots that must be connected in order
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to stay aware and understand.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
We'll keep doing it. This is Dan from Erie, Pennsylvania.
Speaker 7 (16:21):
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Speaker 5 (16:55):
If you missed our interview with Lieutenant Colonel James Carafano,
this would be a must podcast. Asked later this morning,
it is I got to tell this story because it's
one of one of my favorites in forty two years.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
So Red was late this morning.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
He didn't arrive until ten seconds after five am, and
so we only had like a minute or two to talk.
And I said, well, and that's something I often do.
You know, got all this show prep in front of us.
I have my view, and because Red is really my brother,
obviously Red's mother had an affair with my father, because
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we are the same and that's how we found each
other and that's how we become close friends. So I
often do this with Red like I do with no
one else other than maybe David'sanati, just to make sure
I'm not crazy, you know. And so I'll say something like,
all right, so what are your just overall view?
Speaker 4 (17:47):
What are the three big things you think?
Speaker 5 (17:49):
And then he shares an I share, and then we
settled in on this conversation, which I got to give
Red credit for being the one to initiate it. And
he's like, you know, you're always talking the precision and
the level of intelligence that Israel you know, used in
carrying out these strikes, and it's unmistakable, and it may
be historic like nothing we've ever seen, nothing, maybe even
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we've been capable of. He goesh, me and my friend,
we're going over all of our German history and so
on and so forth, and you know, it just kind
of begs the question, how could a country like Israel
with such impeccable intelligence to take out leaders take out
replacements hours after they replace the top commander. They'd be
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like some country taking out our joint chiefs of staff.
So we replace the joint Cheese of staff and they
take him out two days later. I mean, does anybody
want to be joint cheess of staff? Let alone who's
safe anywhere? And so Red goes. You know, it makes
us ask the question, how could a country with intelligence
this incredible.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
Have missed October seventh, coming.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
To which right away I don't even want to hear
that question, because that is that is implying that there
was something allowed with a level of sacrifice in order
to initiate something for the good of millions and for
all time. And I just don't like to go there,
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but it has happened in history and it's a legitimate question.
And so Red goes, well, we should probably ask Carafano,
and I'm like, well, I can't put the lieutenant colonel
and that position live on the air nationwide. Now fast
forward two hours later, Hey, Carafano goes, you know the
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little precision you're talking about intelligence?
Speaker 4 (19:47):
Talking about it?
Speaker 2 (19:48):
It does beg the question.
Speaker 8 (19:50):
And then I'm listening to it and he goes, how does
somebody with this kind of intelligence capability not see October
seventh coming? And I'm like, I was when I ask
you then I thought that would be inappropriate.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
Now you're saying it, you just can't miss. I won't
go to the extent that Red did, which is do
you think they're going to cover this on Fox Today?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
No?
Speaker 4 (20:11):
But I like to think that we're paying off.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
We call balls and strikes, and we don't take sides,
and we don't ignore things because it doesn't suit our narrative.
And I hope that's the advantage and the trust you
have in the show. We're always going to shoot straight
with you. We're going to connect these dots together, We're
going to come to these journeys of discovery together. And
because we get these things in real time, we can
anticipate what's next. Now that's the big question of the day.
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What's next? And I say that because, well, for one,
you have Pete Hexseth, Secretary of Defense, saying that we're
deploying more defensive capabilities. And you could say, what's defensive
about refueling? You know that sounds like you're fueling up
jets to go bomb. And I think that and what
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the President said on the plane that the French president
was wrong. He's not going back to Washington negotiat piece.
In fact something much bigger. So what is much bigger?
It can only be anticipation for regime change protection at home.
As I said, I don't worry at all for Israel anymore.
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Iran is decapitated in terms of leadership there, missile systems
are all but spent or taken out. They are vulnerable
and naked to any attack. All that could lie ahead
is a few unfinished targets that lie exposed, primarily that
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centrifuge facility that's about a half a mile underground, so
air strikes on that or regime change, or as Lieutenant
Colonel James Carafano said, secure any materials that are exposed.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
If there is a regime change.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
That could be all that lies ahead, other than are
we vulnerable to a terrorist attack because of our poorest
open borders for years, let alone especially the last four years,
and who might be in the country. For some reason,
the President wanted to meet with his national security team
in person in the Situation Room. That meeting has taken place.
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We learned from John Decker that we don't anticipate hearing
from the President until afternoon. Perhaps there's an operation coming.
I don't know, we'll see, but that really that is
really the question of the day, to get through all
the fog of war. What is the end game of
Operation Rising Lion? Because you have the support of the
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G seven Aroan should not and could never become a
nuclear nation, and Israel has a right to defend herself
and she did and she has and it wouldn't seem
like they're much better than square one now. But commanders
are taken out, uranium can be replaced, it will take time. Again,
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what is the endgame? Is there something further coming? And
the answer is, we don't know, but today we'll probably
reveal the next big piece of the puzzle. Oh, by
the way, in terms of sounds of the day, you
really can't top this one. This is a ranting, raving
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Islamist woman live on television on the Iranian network.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
And canceled. Wow, I mean the visual of that.
Speaker 5 (23:42):
So she's broadcasting live on I ran in television boom,
and then you just see the studio fill with smoke.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
You never saw somebody's.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
Scoop from a rancor and chair faster. By the way,
that's a sure s M seven.
Speaker 5 (23:58):
No, that's a Sinnheiser shotgun.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Mike.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
She was using very nice mike, all right. So then
the other sound is.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
Just how far back as Israel setback Iran's nuclear program.
There's two things. One we'll start with this visit with
bb Net, Yahoo and Brettbaer.
Speaker 9 (24:22):
And the estimate on how much you have set back
Iron's nuclear program.
Speaker 10 (24:26):
I think we've set them back quite a bit. I
think they were completely surprised. And you know, surprise is
a great element of success. Remember the pragers. I remember
in ISRAELA that's part of breaking up the Iranian access
and we achieved that with surprise, and I think we
achieved a great surprise the other day when we started,
you know, we could wait and wait and wait, stayed
string along the negotiations. We gave them a chance. I
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gave them a chance. But it was clear they were
not serious about it. It became clear, I think to
the United States as well, because the President was very clear.
He said, you can't have nuclear weapons, and in order
to have nuclear weapons, you can't enrich any and they
basically strung everybody along, and it was clear to us
that was going nowhere. I could wait and wait and
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wait until they officially declared that the talks were off
or they you know, and we'd officially declared that we're
going to attack them. That's not how I conduct wars,
and it's not always real conducts wars.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
I think there's so many I could do a whole
three hour show just on that clip. There's more to
it than that, and everything kind of adds up to
you know, Lieutenant Colonel Carafano brought up iron really missed
the post. When Joe Biden or whoever was president was president,
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they should have just declared that they were nuclear and
nobody would have stopped them. And like morons, they waited
till Donald Trump got elected. I think since then everything
has been very brilliantly and masterfully coordinated. I think the
US pounded the Houthis into non existence. The way Israel
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pounded Hamas Hesblah and other terrorist proxy arms of Iran
out of existence was the precondition to the strike and
the level of intelligence and infiltration within the grounds of Iran.
They are completely set back, and because they were in negotiations,
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they didn't see it coming. Now, if the negotiations had
ended in the President said well, this is just simply unacceptable.
And then they tried it, but they thought they were
playing games with the US. The US in Israel has
masterfully carried this out. Now, this is the Israeli ambassador.
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Here's Martha Raddit's interviewing and there's more depth of journalism
in ABC. But listen to how the ambassador from Israel
describes the objective is not to contain the war. Listen,
but you're.
Speaker 7 (27:00):
Certain, you can wear certain, We're certain that we can
set back the nuclear weapons system development with in Iran
for a very very long time.
Speaker 11 (27:12):
How do you avoid this war escalating? The President saying
overnight that if Iran hits the US assets, they will
feel full force of the US military.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
How do you contain this.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
War, Martha.
Speaker 7 (27:23):
The objective is not to contain the war. The objective
is to win the war. Looked, eighty years ago, we
had a little man with a mustache running around Europe,
and nobody believed him when he said he's going to
destroy the Jewish people.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
We lost six million.
Speaker 7 (27:35):
Now we've got a crazed new Hitler running around the
Middle East saying he's going to destroy us. We have
to take him at face value. That's his intention. He
says it every day. He's got a concrete plan to
destroy us. This isn't a joke. This is very serious
for us. It's existential.
Speaker 11 (27:49):
The US was in the middle of negotiations. President Trump
talked about that he did not want you to take
action while these negotiations were going on.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
Obviously, Martha was born yesterday.
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By the way, speaking of the death of journalism, this
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came down an escalator and it began the revelation of
what I had been teaching for decades, which is the
biased media is in the back pocket of the Democrat Party.
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Nothing kills something more than revelation, and the Donald Trump
rise led to the fall of mainstream media. And it
all began ten years ago yesterday, usually running.
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For president of the United States.
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There are no words.
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How do you even have a straight face right now?
There are no words to describe what just happened.
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Ed Rendell, Do you have any doubt that this is
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Carnage? And you watched that speech today?
Speaker 5 (28:56):
We all laugh about it, and I'm sitting here laughing
out loud, you know, for the entire front part of
the show here is we're talking about it.
Speaker 12 (29:04):
I mean, it was a rambling, a rambling mess of
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I was howling, howling.
Speaker 6 (29:14):
You've got mudgeons of money, he's got a lot of recognition,
and he just became the twelfth presidential candidate.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
For the Republican Party.
Speaker 6 (29:23):
Is it typical Donald Trump fashioned? Or is it hilarity runnamock?
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This morning?
Speaker 9 (29:29):
Some Republicans say they're worried Trump will turn the campaign
into a circus.
Speaker 12 (29:33):
Party leaders worry Trump's presence will turn the primary into
a joke. America's largest Latino Civil Rights organization called Trump
an exceedingly silly man.
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Tom.
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Yeah, well, the other thing you turned into a joke
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the death of journalism that will never recover. Oh how
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This is your morning show with Michael del Chuno.
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I am Michael del Jonno, and this is your morning show.
The leaders of the G seven agree Iran should have
never been allowed and should never be allowed to have
a nuclear weapon, and Israel has a right to defend itself. Meanwhile,
President Trump says a US signed a trade deal with
the United Kingdom, and fifty years after it's scared people
out of the water in theater's jaws is going to
be streamed on peacock to mark the anniversary of the thunder.
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With a big win last night at home, and I'll
lead the NBA Finals three games to two. They can
close it out in Indianapolis Thursday night. The Stanley Cup
could end tonight in Miami. The Panthers have three games
to two taking on the Oilers. All right, roryce here,
we're just kind of the whole day's flown by so fast. Rory,
Let's take a deep breath and get everybody up to speed.
Just where do we sit with this Israeli Iranian conflict?
(31:10):
The way I've been saying it all morning long is
what has Operation Rising Lion achieved and what could possibly
be left?
Speaker 9 (31:17):
Well, what we're still waiting to see is just what
kind of damage has been done to Iran's capability to
enrich uranium to develop nuclear weapons.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
You know, the.
Speaker 9 (31:28):
Israel's attacks have been incredibly precise, going after military leaders,
research scientists, even the temporary military guy they put in charge,
he was taken out only a couple days on the job.
So it's been an incredible intelligent success for Israel. But
is this a long term solution? It seems like Israel
is really pushing for a regime change. We heard from
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Prime Minister Netanyahu urging the Iranian people to stand up
and try to bring about permanent change that would also
end their nuclear ambitions.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
We've been saying all morning, all that could possibly be
left are a few exposed rich targets, the richest being
that nuclear centrifuge facility that is about a half a
mile underground in a mountain. And we had Pete Hegseth
announce that we're going to be sending further defensive deployments
(32:20):
to the Middle East. One of those are refueling capabilities. Well,
that's usually for bombing jets. So that kind of makes
me lean towards these unfinished targets and regime change. And then,
of course, Lieutenant Colonel James Carfanal broughtup a great point.
If you get you know, Iranian military just laying down
their weapons and walking away, you get regime change. You
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still might have a lot of weapons and material that
have to be secured on the ground.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
So what we.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
Don't know is Okay, so the president leaves the G seven,
you have the French president Goofy making a comment that
the president left to go secure a cease fire proposed
the President on the plane shoots that down. No, I'm
going to meet with my national security advisors and team
in the situation room, and what we're talking about is
(33:08):
much bigger, All right, Well, what's much bigger than this war?
Speaker 2 (33:12):
You know?
Speaker 4 (33:12):
And it makes you kind of speculate too.
Speaker 5 (33:14):
They did such a great job of taking out all
of their you know, Houthis and Hamas and all of
their surrogate warriors. Probably the only one vulnerable is the
United States. And who might be in our country that
we don't know. Although nobody's implied that there's a security
threat here at home, we don't know what that meeting
was with the President in the situation room, and if
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it involves regime change, taking out more targets or securing home,
we just don't know, right right.
Speaker 9 (33:41):
And also whether or not Gaza gets involved in this.
That statement that was signed by President Trump and the
other G seven leaders did urge a resolution to all
these issues Iran Gaza, So it is sort of a
blanket statement that was out there. Is that part of
the calculus as well.
Speaker 5 (33:59):
Roy O'Neal, great reporting today on both topics. We'll talk
again tomorrow. All right, time flies right, lots to keep
our eyes on. What is the endgame to Operation Rising Lion.
You've taken out commanders, you've taken out missiles, factories, you've
taken out uranium. There is some unfinished business with targets
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Starting your morning off right.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
A new way of talk, a new way of understanding
because we're in this stage. This is your morning show
with Michael beel Charny seven minutes after the hour. Is
so good to be back with you. This is your
morning show. This is your Tuesday, June the seventeenth, twenty
twenty five. If you're just waking up, here's pretty much
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how it lays out. The President is at the G seven.
He leaves early. The leaders of the G seven agree
Iron should never have a nuclear weapon. Israel's ensuring that's
the case, but they also give the credible support that
Israel has a right to defend herself.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
That's good.
Speaker 5 (01:07):
Then the French president says, well, Trump had to lead
because he's going to negotiate a ceasefire in peace. And
the President makes it very clear, no, they had their
chance to talk. It's a shame and it's a waste
of human life. Simply stated, Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon.
I set it over and over again. Now everyone should
immediately evacuate Tran. The President went on to stay on
the plane that he's not going back to negotiate peace.
(01:30):
He's going back to meet with his national security team
in the situation room. And there's something much bigger coming
that begs the question, what is the endgame to Operation
Rising Lion and how close are we to the end?
The decapitation of virtually every command leadership position, and I
think ballistic missile capabilities as well as the enriched uranium facilities,
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missile assembly facilities. There is that one last area of
interfusions that are about a half a mile underground. You
wonder if that's the next step. To Lieutenant Colonel James Carafana,
we go time for talk shows to shut up an
expert to speak. Yes, everybody has said from the for
as long as I've been in talk radio, Aran is
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the most predictable threat to the Middle East, to the region,
and to the world, and they cannot be allowed to
become nuclear. That talk has been cheap for decades. Israel's
finally done something. Why now and how effective have they been?
Speaker 6 (02:30):
Well this is let me look for the Iranian perspective.
So the big mistake that the Iranians made is they
put all their money in offense and nothing in defense.
And the most effective strategic deterrent is what's called the
offense defense mix, which is not only can I punch
you in the face, but if you try to punch me,
I can block that. So what the Iranians really counted
(02:50):
on is not just their the threat of ballistic missiles
and eventually it's sort of a nuclear weapon, but that
they could unleash all these surrogates on on Israel and
so that if Israel ever dared an attack Ron, then
suddenly they you know, they would be attacked by Hamas
and has blah and uh, you know, the hooties and
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and they know and the and of course all those
guys have been pretty much hammered in the you know
paste so and and the ballistic missile threat, as as
the arrange as the Israels and demonstrat is actually quite manageable.
So as soon as Israeli started taking out their UH
(03:34):
limit very limited defense and capabilities, the Iranians had nothing
to protect themselves.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
And so you know, it's kind of this is an
unfair fight right now.
Speaker 6 (03:43):
You know, they can't they can't invade Israel because Israel
is hundreds of miles away through a couple of countries,
and their surrogates can't attack for them.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
So and they were close to having a nuclear weapons so.
Speaker 6 (03:55):
Honestly, and Donald Trump was president of the United States,
I said this, and I said this on your show.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Yeah, the smart play for Ron.
Speaker 6 (04:05):
Was to have declared nuclear status last year when Joe
Biden was still president, because he not only we have
done nothing, he would have restrained the Israeli from doing anything.
And then a year later Donald Trump would committed his
president they said, oh, we got any clear upon so
we're going to do better. And that would have made
the world a very different place. But they didn't do that.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
Lieutenant Colonel James Carafano joining us from the Heritage Foundation,
largest think tank in the world, and I think the
most brilliant military and foreign policy mind in America today.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
He hates when I say that.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
You'd have been very proud of us on Friday because
I talked in depth about the brilliance of this plan.
Where the US pounded the huthies, Israel carried out a
pounding of hamas in all of the surrogates, and I said,
just that they don't have the surrogates to respond. They've
taken out all of their offensive systems. They have been strategic.
(04:57):
I mean, I'm in awe of the level of intelligence
and the precision of the strikes. I mean literally to
take a commander out at his desk and the lobby's
still intact. I mean it ought to be here, and
then it since happened. Even the replacement for the commander
of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard has already been taken out.
It's as if they could get to anything they wanted.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Now.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
It begs this question this morning, what is left in
Operation Rising Lion, Because other than regime change or taking
out those centrifugees underground, I can't think of what is
possibly left.
Speaker 6 (05:31):
Well, you know me because I hate to speculate, I
really do, because I don't know. I just said I
don't know, but you raise two good points. If you're
asking why would the president go back? What are the
two things on the table that the US was, Oh,
where we really need to kind of make some decisions
prep for this.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
What are they?
Speaker 6 (05:50):
What is does the regime collapse which creates a whole
serious situations. And the other is, okay, there are there's
a handful of targets that you know, haven't been taken out,
are open and naked, and they're there, and we do
we help the Israelis kind of do that or figure
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that out or or do it for him, and and
uh and there's somebody rush in and secure some of
these nuclear sites if the regime collapses or whatever. Those
are kind of presidential level decisions that you probably can't.
You know, they take these little bubble skips with them
wherever they go. It's like a little tent inside the room,
(06:33):
and the president can go in there and have secure communications.
But that's the level of coordination with your team that
probably you can't.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Yeah, I respectfully, Yeah, I agree with you.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
Although when the president was on the plane and of
course couldn't resist a jab. But the French president, nice
guy does not always right, not often right? Actually, Uh no,
I'm going back to meet with my national security team
in the situation room, and it's much bigger. So if
it's much bigger than peace, it's unfinished business, then then
I piece that together with US Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth
(07:08):
announcing that he ordered the deployment of additional defense capabilities
to the Middle East. Of course, part of that is refueling.
Refueling is usually for planes to hit targets. So you know,
I'm kind of you know, I wasn't born yesterday, and
I've been taught by the best you So I mean,
I'm kind of figuring it's regimemed. You bring up something
I hadn't thought of. If this regime falls, somebody's got
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to go and secure whatever dangerous weaponry is naked right now.
Speaker 6 (07:37):
Right And my pet is really who knows, you know,
And actually, look, I think obviously there are worst case
scenarios right where the collapse of the regime leads to,
you know, things that we hadn't really considered, like see
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the one third of Iran that is Ozzer by Johnny
suddenly declaring it's an independent state or something like that,
which would kind of send ripples all those but by
and large I think you know, uh, you know this,
will you know this?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
This could the.
Speaker 6 (08:18):
Regime change could be a manageable challenge.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
And so you have two prospects.
Speaker 6 (08:26):
One is that the regime falls, the other one that
doesn't if it If it doesn't fall, the nuclear threat
is still on the table.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
But and then the question is.
Speaker 6 (08:35):
How far back down the road do you want to
push that off? And of course the more sites, the
more capabilities should take out, the more sanctions you're going
to have. The hardest going to be then for the
rebuild the further you push that down the road.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (08:51):
So, Yeah, every day the regime doesn't collapse is probably
means that they might.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Survive because the two things you look for are.
Speaker 6 (09:04):
The collapse of uh people in charge and two kind
of people doing stuff in the streets and soldiers kind
of laying down their arms and walking away. So those
are the two telltale signs you look for. So we
have seen the regime try to, you know, re establish
command and control.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
As you mentioned, the lack of guy that put another
guy in the whack.
Speaker 6 (09:27):
That guy reminds me of that remember when they used
to say the number three guy in ol Kaeda is
and then the next thing.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Uh so, uh, but.
Speaker 6 (09:35):
But I would say every day the regime the regime
survives is probably another day that the more it makes
it more likely that they will survive. I don't I
don't think there's a deal because it would be completely
humiliating if the regime survives for them to cut a deal,
because in that deal, they would have to basically get
everything away, and it would clearly be.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
A humiliating defeat.
Speaker 6 (09:59):
So it's more likely is there's kind of a quiet deal, right,
So if the regime survives, they don't actually make a deal,
but they but everybody just stops killing each other.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
Closing moment, closing, Yeah, I was just saying closing moments
with Lieutenant Colonel James Carafano. All Right, as you mentioned
and I mentioned at first, but you mentioned and referenced it,
Al Rashid is taken out, then they insert SHADMANI he's
taken out.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
How's it to be the third guy now in line?
Speaker 5 (10:28):
But I mean I could countless but fifteen top leaders
of both the Revolutionary Guard and their military taken out.
This kind of intelligence and this kind of you know,
unknown ground capability and precision makes you wonder if they
could have taken out the Supreme Io Tola and have
chosen not to and why.
Speaker 6 (10:50):
Uh yeah, that's all just speculation. I don't know the
answer to that.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
There's there's see. Yeah. I mean what is clear is.
Speaker 6 (11:06):
The Israeli spent years kind of prepping for this, yes,
and what's changed is the conditions on the ground have
allowed and then pull this trigger. So it's not like
the Israelis were working relentlessly towards this day. It's like
they were preparing for this day and then the situation
happened that they could do this.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
But you know, this raises another super interesting question.
Speaker 6 (11:26):
If they put this kind of meticulous capability and resources
in place, why didn't they pick up on October seventh?
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Oh my god in heaven right did you wait a minute?
Wait a minute? Read did you hear that?
Speaker 5 (11:40):
Okay, that is the question I wanted to ask you,
and I didn't want to put you in that position
in seventy markets at once.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
But yeah, means motive opportunity.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
The motive is your enemy has almost the means to
take you out, and they're saying they're going to So
that's a clear and present danger. Opportunity was October seventh
opened the door for this progression. And that what I
mean because I'll I'll.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Just say it now that you said it.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
The level of intelligence and precision I mean, I'm when
I say that, I'm not being dramatic. They took out
the leader of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard at his desk,
and then the rest of the buildings intact that kind
of you pull that off. You knew October seventh was coming.
I didn't want to say that out loud.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Well, I don't know if that's true.
Speaker 6 (12:38):
It may be that they had so much focus on
the run and these other things that they took their
rye off the ball.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Because remember, the whole idea was we're going.
Speaker 6 (12:47):
To engage in these guys and we're going to let them,
you know, travel and have jobs and stuff. So maybe
they took the right off the ball. And the reason
why I think this is is, look look at you know,
with these kind of hidden drones and unexpected attack means
and the pagers and everything else that we see the
Ukrainians do that we see the Israelis. Do you know
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that everybody else is going to school on that. So
here we are in the United States, good for good
for us. We are focused on Ukraine, We're focused on
the Middle East, We're focused on illegal immigrants, We're focused
on that.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
We're focused on China.
Speaker 6 (13:23):
But are we paying attention to all these other quote
unquote methods of hybrid warfare that that people may come
after us? You know, we just had news today about
the Chinese were actually trying to you know, screw with
the with the election, and the FBI actually allegedly knew
about that. So are there things that we are doing
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in the United States where we are distracted and we're
taking our eye off the October seventh?
Speaker 5 (13:52):
All right, I only I only I only have I
only have thirty seconds. But if you're going to go there,
I'm going to go there. Let me ask another question
that would be free to say over the air to you,
and that is, you know, we talk about the pounding
of the hooi's the pounding of Amas. They don't have
their circuits to attack Israel, But we don't know what
the heck's in our country. Did the president return home
because of a threat to American soil?
Speaker 4 (14:14):
That that might be And I don't know, but that would.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
Be a wouldn't that be a concern of you, of
yours too, and more more vulnerable than Israel right now.
Speaker 6 (14:23):
Yeah, I don't I don't know that, but but that's
but you have to think about that. You've got to
because you know, as you mentioned, the bad guys are
going to try to find a way. If you show
up one side, they're going to look another place to
come after you. And you've got to be on this
twenty four seven, three sixty five, which by the way,
is just an around of time. But all these you know,
(14:44):
court injunctions, when you're trying to do national security, all
this other nonsense, playing politics and everything, it distracts people
from you know, DEI, yes, all this, it distracts people
from the day job. And the one thing you don't
want to do is you don't want to do.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Yeah, nineteen hijackers reminded us of that.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
It's your morning show with Michael del Choano.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
Let me lay this out for you, Operation Rising Lion,
Why now and oh how well it was done with
such precision? What's left because regime change and securing any
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dangerous materials in a regime change, or one last one
or two or three targets, especially that half mile underground
center viewge facility. Can all be that the only thing
that lies ahead, and you know, all we can do
is wait and watch. But the President returned from the
(15:53):
G seven to seven in Canada to meet in person
with his National Security Council. So our questions are, I'm
I'm not worried about Israel uh, and I'm not worried
about any Iranian attacks. I am a little concerned about
who might be in our country that we don't know,
and something happening in America. Are all these related? These
are all the dots that must be connected in order
(16:15):
to stay aware and understand.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
We'll keep doing it. This is Dan from Erie, Pennsylvania.
Speaker 7 (16:21):
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Speaker 5 (16:55):
If you missed our interview with Lieutenant Colonel James Carafano,
this would be a must podcast. Asked later this morning,
it is I got to tell this story because it's
one of one of my favorites in forty two years.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
So Red was late this morning.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
He didn't arrive until ten seconds after five am, and
so we only had like a minute or two to talk.
And I said, well, and that's something I often do.
You know, got all this show prep in front of us.
I have my view, and because Red is really my brother,
obviously Red's mother had an affair with my father, because
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we are the same and that's how we found each
other and that's how we become close friends. So I
often do this with Red like I do with no
one else other than maybe David'sanati, just to make sure
I'm not crazy, you know. And so I'll say something like,
all right, so what are your just overall view?
Speaker 4 (17:47):
What are the three big things you think?
Speaker 5 (17:49):
And then he shares an I share, and then we
settled in on this conversation, which I got to give
Red credit for being the one to initiate it. And
he's like, you know, you're always talking the precision and
the level of intelligence that Israel you know, used in
carrying out these strikes, and it's unmistakable, and it may
be historic like nothing we've ever seen, nothing, maybe even
(18:13):
we've been capable of. He goesh, me and my friend,
we're going over all of our German history and so
on and so forth, and you know, it just kind
of begs the question, how could a country like Israel
with such impeccable intelligence to take out leaders take out
replacements hours after they replace the top commander. They'd be
(18:38):
like some country taking out our joint chiefs of staff.
So we replace the joint Cheese of staff and they
take him out two days later. I mean, does anybody
want to be joint cheess of staff? Let alone who's
safe anywhere? And so Red goes. You know, it makes
us ask the question, how could a country with intelligence
this incredible.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
Have missed October seventh, coming.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
To which right away I don't even want to hear
that question, because that is that is implying that there
was something allowed with a level of sacrifice in order
to initiate something for the good of millions and for
all time. And I just don't like to go there,
(19:21):
but it has happened in history and it's a legitimate question.
And so Red goes, well, we should probably ask Carafano,
and I'm like, well, I can't put the lieutenant colonel
and that position live on the air nationwide. Now fast
forward two hours later, Hey, Carafano goes, you know the
(19:45):
little precision you're talking about intelligence?
Speaker 4 (19:47):
Talking about it?
Speaker 2 (19:48):
It does beg the question.
Speaker 8 (19:50):
And then I'm listening to it and he goes, how does
somebody with this kind of intelligence capability not see October
seventh coming? And I'm like, I was when I ask
you then I thought that would be inappropriate.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
Now you're saying it, you just can't miss. I won't
go to the extent that Red did, which is do
you think they're going to cover this on Fox Today?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
No?
Speaker 4 (20:11):
But I like to think that we're paying off.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
We call balls and strikes, and we don't take sides,
and we don't ignore things because it doesn't suit our narrative.
And I hope that's the advantage and the trust you
have in the show. We're always going to shoot straight
with you. We're going to connect these dots together, We're
going to come to these journeys of discovery together. And
because we get these things in real time, we can
anticipate what's next. Now that's the big question of the day.
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What's next? And I say that because, well, for one,
you have Pete Hexseth, Secretary of Defense, saying that we're
deploying more defensive capabilities. And you could say, what's defensive
about refueling? You know that sounds like you're fueling up
jets to go bomb. And I think that and what
(20:57):
the President said on the plane that the French president
was wrong. He's not going back to Washington negotiat piece.
In fact something much bigger. So what is much bigger?
It can only be anticipation for regime change protection at home.
As I said, I don't worry at all for Israel anymore.
(21:20):
Iran is decapitated in terms of leadership there, missile systems
are all but spent or taken out. They are vulnerable
and naked to any attack. All that could lie ahead
is a few unfinished targets that lie exposed, primarily that
(21:44):
centrifuge facility that's about a half a mile underground, so
air strikes on that or regime change, or as Lieutenant
Colonel James Carafano said, secure any materials that are exposed.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
If there is a regime change.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
That could be all that lies ahead, other than are
we vulnerable to a terrorist attack because of our poorest
open borders for years, let alone especially the last four years,
and who might be in the country. For some reason,
the President wanted to meet with his national security team
in person in the Situation Room. That meeting has taken place.
(22:17):
We learned from John Decker that we don't anticipate hearing
from the President until afternoon. Perhaps there's an operation coming.
I don't know, we'll see, but that really that is
really the question of the day, to get through all
the fog of war. What is the end game of
Operation Rising Lion? Because you have the support of the
(22:41):
G seven Aroan should not and could never become a
nuclear nation, and Israel has a right to defend herself
and she did and she has and it wouldn't seem
like they're much better than square one now. But commanders
are taken out, uranium can be replaced, it will take time. Again,
(23:02):
what is the endgame? Is there something further coming? And
the answer is, we don't know, but today we'll probably
reveal the next big piece of the puzzle. Oh, by
the way, in terms of sounds of the day, you
really can't top this one. This is a ranting, raving
(23:25):
Islamist woman live on television on the Iranian network.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
And canceled. Wow, I mean the visual of that.
Speaker 5 (23:42):
So she's broadcasting live on I ran in television boom,
and then you just see the studio fill with smoke.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
You never saw somebody's.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
Scoop from a rancor and chair faster. By the way,
that's a sure s M seven.
Speaker 5 (23:58):
No, that's a Sinnheiser shotgun.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Mike.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
She was using very nice mike, all right. So then
the other sound is.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
Just how far back as Israel setback Iran's nuclear program.
There's two things. One we'll start with this visit with
bb Net, Yahoo and Brettbaer.
Speaker 9 (24:22):
And the estimate on how much you have set back
Iron's nuclear program.
Speaker 10 (24:26):
I think we've set them back quite a bit. I
think they were completely surprised. And you know, surprise is
a great element of success. Remember the pragers. I remember
in ISRAELA that's part of breaking up the Iranian access
and we achieved that with surprise, and I think we
achieved a great surprise the other day when we started,
you know, we could wait and wait and wait, stayed
string along the negotiations. We gave them a chance. I
(24:49):
gave them a chance. But it was clear they were
not serious about it. It became clear, I think to
the United States as well, because the President was very clear.
He said, you can't have nuclear weapons, and in order
to have nuclear weapons, you can't enrich any and they
basically strung everybody along, and it was clear to us
that was going nowhere. I could wait and wait and
(25:09):
wait until they officially declared that the talks were off
or they you know, and we'd officially declared that we're
going to attack them. That's not how I conduct wars,
and it's not always real conducts wars.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
I think there's so many I could do a whole
three hour show just on that clip. There's more to
it than that, and everything kind of adds up to
you know, Lieutenant Colonel Carafano brought up iron really missed
the post. When Joe Biden or whoever was president was president,
(25:43):
they should have just declared that they were nuclear and
nobody would have stopped them. And like morons, they waited
till Donald Trump got elected. I think since then everything
has been very brilliantly and masterfully coordinated. I think the
US pounded the Houthis into non existence. The way Israel
(26:04):
pounded Hamas Hesblah and other terrorist proxy arms of Iran
out of existence was the precondition to the strike and
the level of intelligence and infiltration within the grounds of Iran.
They are completely set back, and because they were in negotiations,
(26:26):
they didn't see it coming. Now, if the negotiations had
ended in the President said well, this is just simply unacceptable.
And then they tried it, but they thought they were
playing games with the US. The US in Israel has
masterfully carried this out. Now, this is the Israeli ambassador.
(26:46):
Here's Martha Raddit's interviewing and there's more depth of journalism
in ABC. But listen to how the ambassador from Israel
describes the objective is not to contain the war. Listen,
but you're.
Speaker 7 (27:00):
Certain, you can wear certain, We're certain that we can
set back the nuclear weapons system development with in Iran
for a very very long time.
Speaker 11 (27:12):
How do you avoid this war escalating? The President saying
overnight that if Iran hits the US assets, they will
feel full force of the US military.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
How do you contain this.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
War, Martha.
Speaker 7 (27:23):
The objective is not to contain the war. The objective
is to win the war. Looked, eighty years ago, we
had a little man with a mustache running around Europe,
and nobody believed him when he said he's going to
destroy the Jewish people.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
We lost six million.
Speaker 7 (27:35):
Now we've got a crazed new Hitler running around the
Middle East saying he's going to destroy us. We have
to take him at face value. That's his intention. He
says it every day. He's got a concrete plan to
destroy us. This isn't a joke. This is very serious
for us. It's existential.
Speaker 11 (27:49):
The US was in the middle of negotiations. President Trump
talked about that he did not want you to take
action while these negotiations were going on.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
Obviously, Martha was born yesterday.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
By the way, speaking of the death of journalism, this
is if Jaws being fifty years ago doesn't make you
feel old. It was ten years ago today. Donald Trump
came down an escalator and it began the revelation of
what I had been teaching for decades, which is the
biased media is in the back pocket of the Democrat Party.
(28:25):
Nothing kills something more than revelation, and the Donald Trump
rise led to the fall of mainstream media. And it
all began ten years ago yesterday, usually running.
Speaker 6 (28:38):
For president of the United States.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
There are no words.
Speaker 12 (28:42):
How do you even have a straight face right now?
There are no words to describe what just happened.
Speaker 11 (28:51):
Ed Rendell, Do you have any doubt that this is
anything more than a carnival show?
Speaker 4 (28:54):
Carnage? And you watched that speech today?
Speaker 5 (28:56):
We all laugh about it, and I'm sitting here laughing
out loud, you know, for the entire front part of
the show here is we're talking about it.
Speaker 12 (29:04):
I mean, it was a rambling, a rambling mess of
a speech that said it was very entertaining.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
I was howling, howling.
Speaker 6 (29:14):
You've got mudgeons of money, he's got a lot of recognition,
and he just became the twelfth presidential candidate.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
For the Republican Party.
Speaker 6 (29:23):
Is it typical Donald Trump fashioned? Or is it hilarity runnamock?
Speaker 4 (29:28):
This morning?
Speaker 9 (29:29):
Some Republicans say they're worried Trump will turn the campaign
into a circus.
Speaker 12 (29:33):
Party leaders worry Trump's presence will turn the primary into
a joke. America's largest Latino Civil Rights organization called Trump
an exceedingly silly man.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Tom.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
Yeah, well, the other thing you turned into a joke
was the Republican Party, mainstream establishment Republican Party, and certainly
the death of journalism that will never recover. Oh how
everything changed ten years ago, always revealing, often entertaining.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
That's your sounds of the day.
Speaker 7 (30:07):
All people who majored in online activision with a minor
and puberty bullshit.
Speaker 12 (30:14):
Any of you in the media clearly missed the art
of the dealers.
Speaker 7 (30:18):
It's going to work out.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
This is your morning show with Michael del Chuno.
Speaker 5 (30:25):
I am Michael del Jonno, and this is your morning show.
The leaders of the G seven agree Iran should have
never been allowed and should never be allowed to have
a nuclear weapon, and Israel has a right to defend itself. Meanwhile,
President Trump says a US signed a trade deal with
the United Kingdom, and fifty years after it's scared people
out of the water in theater's jaws is going to
be streamed on peacock to mark the anniversary of the thunder.
(30:46):
With a big win last night at home, and I'll
lead the NBA Finals three games to two. They can
close it out in Indianapolis Thursday night. The Stanley Cup
could end tonight in Miami. The Panthers have three games
to two taking on the Oilers. All right, roryce here,
we're just kind of the whole day's flown by so fast. Rory,
Let's take a deep breath and get everybody up to speed.
Just where do we sit with this Israeli Iranian conflict?
(31:10):
The way I've been saying it all morning long is
what has Operation Rising Lion achieved and what could possibly
be left?
Speaker 9 (31:17):
Well, what we're still waiting to see is just what
kind of damage has been done to Iran's capability to
enrich uranium to develop nuclear weapons.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
You know, the.
Speaker 9 (31:28):
Israel's attacks have been incredibly precise, going after military leaders,
research scientists, even the temporary military guy they put in charge,
he was taken out only a couple days on the job.
So it's been an incredible intelligent success for Israel. But
is this a long term solution? It seems like Israel
is really pushing for a regime change. We heard from
(31:51):
Prime Minister Netanyahu urging the Iranian people to stand up
and try to bring about permanent change that would also
end their nuclear ambitions.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
We've been saying all morning, all that could possibly be
left are a few exposed rich targets, the richest being
that nuclear centrifuge facility that is about a half a
mile underground in a mountain. And we had Pete Hegseth
announce that we're going to be sending further defensive deployments
(32:20):
to the Middle East. One of those are refueling capabilities. Well,
that's usually for bombing jets. So that kind of makes
me lean towards these unfinished targets and regime change. And then,
of course, Lieutenant Colonel James Carfanal broughtup a great point.
If you get you know, Iranian military just laying down
their weapons and walking away, you get regime change. You
(32:41):
still might have a lot of weapons and material that
have to be secured on the ground.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
So what we.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
Don't know is Okay, so the president leaves the G seven,
you have the French president Goofy making a comment that
the president left to go secure a cease fire proposed
the President on the plane shoots that down. No, I'm
going to meet with my national security advisors and team
in the situation room, and what we're talking about is
(33:08):
much bigger, All right, Well, what's much bigger than this war?
Speaker 2 (33:12):
You know?
Speaker 4 (33:12):
And it makes you kind of speculate too.
Speaker 5 (33:14):
They did such a great job of taking out all
of their you know, Houthis and Hamas and all of
their surrogate warriors. Probably the only one vulnerable is the
United States. And who might be in our country that
we don't know. Although nobody's implied that there's a security
threat here at home, we don't know what that meeting
was with the President in the situation room, and if
(33:35):
it involves regime change, taking out more targets or securing home,
we just don't know, right right.
Speaker 9 (33:41):
And also whether or not Gaza gets involved in this.
That statement that was signed by President Trump and the
other G seven leaders did urge a resolution to all
these issues Iran Gaza, So it is sort of a
blanket statement that was out there. Is that part of
the calculus as well.
Speaker 5 (33:59):
Roy O'Neal, great reporting today on both topics. We'll talk
again tomorrow. All right, time flies right, lots to keep
our eyes on. What is the endgame to Operation Rising Lion.
You've taken out commanders, you've taken out missiles, factories, you've
taken out uranium. There is some unfinished business with targets
(34:20):
or regime change. Watch it today and understand it tomorrow.
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