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The Iran situation has become more difficult to deal with
because as we've put off what should have already been done,
problems do not go away. When ignored, they actually become
more difficult. I find parallels with our country's debt problem.
By not facing it head on, we will be forced
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to face it at an even larger scale. So grateful
we have a true leader that does not bout a
political pressure and loves our country. We don't deserve him well,
we deserve nothing less and forever more. But that's a
great point Roger's making, you know, And that's you know,
a lot of people want to see more diplomacy, and
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I think the president, I'm almost certain the President has
made his mind up about whether or not we will
use offensive air strikes against Iran, and that's our bombers,
using our bunker busters at Mount Fourdeaux to take out
the remaining CENTRIFUGEUS. That's something that we can do that
Israel can't do for itself. But I don't believe the
President has given the order yet, and I think he's
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trying to give time now if you're just waking up.
What doesn't help is the Iatola got on his television
and told everybody he will not surrender to the United States.
So if diplomacy has failed, it's because of the Iotolin.
And if airstrikes take place. It's because the Iatola had
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a chance to find a diplomatic solution. The world degrees,
America degrees, We did the polling information. Nobody thinks iron
should be allowed to have a nuclear weapon. Now it's
time to do something about ensuring it doesn't, because it's
not going to willfully stop its pursuit. It's telling you
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that they are even telling you what they're going to
do when they achieve it. Destroy Israel in America, kill
all the Jews, kill all the Americans. Look, if this
fails and we have to bomb, it's not Donald Trump's fault.
I'm sure the left will try to make it that,
but it's the Iatola's fault, and I suspect he'll pay
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a price and may lose control of Iran because of it.
But every effort has been made to find a peaceful solution,
and not just in recent history, but in decades long history.
To Roger's point, it's all we haven't done that has
led to this, and that's why you're seeing North Korea, China, Russia,
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the Arab and Muslim nations maybe verbally condemning, but nobody's
joining in because it's in no one's best interest that
Iran be this close to a nuke. So that's kind
of what you're waking up with this morning. We also
have a hurricane, believe it or not, Eric Category two
in the Eastern Pacific. The Supreme Court upheld a Tennessee
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law that restricts gender transition care for children. And that's
another reminder that apparently children was too far in the
transgendered movement. And I used this analogy earlier, and I don't
want to make people get nauseous over it, but I
was watching a great documentary on Uhammad Ali, a very
recent one, and it was so well done, and Muhammad
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Ali is such a significant individual and great boxer. But
what was most fascinating was America in the background, was
watching Martin Luther King Junior and the Nation of Islam
battle for the soul of Muhammad Ali yet alone. You
know the rioting, and you know the cultural chaos in
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the background, very similar kind of to what we're living now.
And that is, while Americans are focused on war abroad
or leftist wars being created on the ground at home,
is anyone noticing border crossings and releases were at zero
from sixty two thousand a year ago, attempts were down
from one hundred and seventeen thousand to seventy five hundred
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in zero order, solved, got a framework for tariff agreement
with China, We got an agreement with the United Kingdom,
and there are other agreements on the horizon not solidified yet.
But going in that direction, is anyone noticing the progress
being made? Heines is changing its ketchup. I can go
down a list of all the unhealthy things being taken
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out of our food supplies. We're making America healthy again,
kind of sorting out some of this woke nonsense. There's
a lot to discuss, but the biggest question is, with
all the distractions, is anybody noticing the progress?
Speaker 3 (05:35):
What do you suspect?
Speaker 1 (05:36):
David Zanati is our CEO of the American Policy Roundtable,
host of the Public Square hard on two hundred stations.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Can America keep its eye on more than one thing
at a time?
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Why do you always have such good questions this earlier
in the morning.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Well, that's the.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Conclusion of a five minutes tall while you were fixing
your microphone.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Yeah, and there's a bigger question, why is it when
the system is completely functional?
Speaker 3 (05:58):
You tested at mine. I don't know. I don't know.
You don't turn a thing off. Fate hit the button and.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Ye just I had to literally reboot to get all
the settings back. So thank you for your patience. It's
the right question, Michael. One of the things that is happening,
of course, is that the left gets a vote too.
I mean, there's a lot of overwhelming momentum that came
in with the election, but the other side gets a
vote as well.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
We've got to remember that the Trump.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Victory on the net in regards to popular vote, and
that's only a poll right now. We don't elect the
president my popular vote. But it shows that the differential
in this election was two million votes out of over
one hundred and forty million cast, almost on a fifty
million cast.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
So that shows you.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
That there's a majority, but it's a very slim majority.
When you look at the Congress, it's a handful of seats.
The Senate which is more seats, but not nearly enough
to have a majority.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
The Republicans don't have a majority till they get to sixty.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
So the country is it's kind of a game playground,
Teeter Toddle.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
We are called the United States in name only is
what you're kind of addressing.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
We're very divided, actually, Tennessee piece that you just mentioned.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
If you look at where we are with the Tennessee
question on whether or not we should league kids minor
children out of the LGBTQ debate, all right, and let
people reach puberty, let them reach the age of legal
consent before these decisions start being made for them. You see,
the states are split right now, twenty five twenty five
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right down the middle. Now, it's not to say that
every state is yet held a debate, or that if
the debate happened today that it wouldn't be far more
toward the decision in support of what the Supreme Court
just said.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
But there are a significant amount of divisions.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
So the real game that's going on in America right
now while there's governing going on to your question, where
the Trump administration is able to govern working their way
around a locked Congress. Now, I'm not saying working in
defiance of the law, But like the immigration points you
bring up, why is that successful? Because the laws are
already there. All Tonald Trump's doing is exercising those laws. Ye,
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Barack Obama had the Saber laws, and he deported three
million Americas. So it's just a process of where the
law and the administrative power flow in harmony, which is
where our country's supposed to work. You're seeing results after that.
In essence, what you have is the two combating protest movements.
The Republican administration is protesting against the blockage that can't
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get anything resolved, and the No Kings movement is protesting
against the fact that they're having their toys taken away
from them and it makes them upset.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
So heage battle going on here. Yeah, and you know,
we don't even know. I could throw away another twist,
but it's probably not worth a distraction. But if one
million have been removed and deported, or if one million
have self deported and a million have been removed and
the new forest border is producing zero no more, how
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does that affect the voting too, because some of them
were voting when they shouldn't have been. Some of them
were just names being voted for it used to vote.
So we'll see how that all plays it out. But
by and large, yeah, you're right, we're divided, and not
divided decisively as much as the media would make you
think we lean left or Republicans listening to talk radio
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might think, we lean right. It's still a very closely
divided nation.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
All right, So.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
The progress that's being made, I look back. I'm going
to say it just in the ugly form and then
you can dust it out. If the President hadn't created
all this tariff stuff, you'd probably have two interest rate
reductions by now. But that uncertainty has done what it's
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done with the market, which is mostly recovered, but it's
also had an impact on the FED, and that that's
why the interest rates are staying the same.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Purely.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
I wonder, yeah, I wonder if that was you know,
still we've questioned that move from the very beginning, and
it's one of these things just doesn't belong. He's done
everything so well but that, and he can't get away
from it, and he can be mad at the FED
and the FED chair all he wants, but it really
is kind of his doing well, and it may turn
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out to be brilliant. Don't get me wrong. I'm just saying,
but at this point.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Sure part of the Trump's strategy was to flood the zone.
And what you realize real quickly is when you try
to do a whole lot of things in a whole
lot of places, and don't leave any capacity left for
international global conflict that explodes on your desk, you're going
to have a little difficult time on your productivity charts.
So you started off with tariffs, and Trump got everybody's attention,
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and so we've looked at the situation. He brought it
to the forefront, and now they're trying to balance it
out on what.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Are people willing to actually do and to make it work.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
We're better off of the conversation, but one of the
unintended consequences is you're rights are still stuck.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Yeah, you can't sell the housing crisis without them coming
down to it. Can you kin have access to cash
and capital?
Speaker 4 (11:07):
You do, but you also have to have inventory, and
of course that goes back to interest rates as well.
Nobody's going to build inventory right now. The housing industry
is locked up and building multi home condominium or apartments
because they know people are stuck on the interest rates.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
So it's it's problematic.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Now America survives, Nonetheless, there's a whole lot of money
not being made because of it. There's a whole lot
of happiness that we're not being able to pursue because
of it. But at the same time, one of the
questions nobody else is talking about is what about all
the promises in regards to energy. You know, gasoline prices
are still bouncing between two eighty and three forty. I
mean they're going back and forth, back and forth. I
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travel the country and I see amazing differences. I can
go down some roads in Williamson County and get gasoline
for two dollars and twenty five cents, and then I
hop on an airplane and I fly to the office
in Cleveland. I'm not paying three and a quarter. You say,
what in the world? Or go to Florida and pay
three forty What is that all about? Well, it's because
the administration is not able to concentrate the way they
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want to, because we've got a Congress that is virtually distracted.
Speaking of a distracted Congress, I'm sure I missed the
story because I've been busy this morning. I couldn't quite
turn the radio on. How about the Democrats walking out
of the hearings?
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Yeshu, Well, I think that's your answer, isn't it all right?
So they just get up and walk out?
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Yeah, I you know, all right? So what did everyone know?
Nobody even wants to know. But you know, the biggest
question in America today should be it's a pretty obvious
Joe Biden wasn't president.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Who was? And I think you know, I was watching
a Bill.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Maher interview with a movie and Broadway director who has
a great theory on this, and that is in the void.
You know, at least in the movie Dave the impostor
Dave was running the country, which was part of the
fun of the movie. In this case, we don't know
who was behind all these auto pens and could it
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be as diseased and crazy as Okay, this guy says,
I'm going to do this, We're going to open the
borders up. Why about woll But if you do that,
I want these transgendered rules.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Okay, I'll do that. Well, if you want that, I want.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
And that's how we had so many bad decisions that
not even a DNC or a Democrat strategist, and certainly
not a president would have called a program where someone
could say no to somebody. And that's how they lost
control of the wheel. And because think about it, once
they leave office, Now they don't have a leader. Now
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they don't have a message. Now they don't have a plan.
How did we get there? How did the left even
get there? That would be interesting to sort out. I
want to get one other thing before the break, and
that is real blue collar wage growth, non supervisor. This
is Remember you know the left's always talking about grow
the economy from the bottom up, never mind the rich people. Well,
you got to go back to Richard Nixon in nineteen
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sixty nine, where real blue collar wage grew zero point
eight percent in the first five months. It was zero
for Carter in seventy seven, it was zero minus zero
point nine for Reagan in eighty one. It was minus
three percent for H. W.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Bush.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
You'll see Republicans won't have a very good record on
this till Trump. Clinton zero point six percent, w zero
zero point six percent, Clinton minus zero point six percent.
Obama was minus zero point three percent, Biden was minus
one point seven percent. If the poor and the hard
working want to higher wage, it looks like Nixon, Trump
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and Trump is who you should turn to. Trump the
first time one point three percent, the second time one
point seven percent. This is the blue collar, low wage
president and the most successful at raising wages in sixty years.
I mean, all these victories going on beyond war and
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war being waged in the street.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
It's very, very breath taking.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Well, the key thing we got to talk about is
is it a question for results or a quest for power?
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Now, great point, it's your Morning show with Michael del Choano.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
I want to cover three things. If Biden wasn't president,
who was? Do we have that answer yet?
Speaker 3 (15:20):
No?
Speaker 1 (15:21):
And what did we get in a hearing yesterday Democrats
has got up and walked out. I think that's your answer.
Then the ridiculous hearing with our secretary of Defense, I
mean full Trump derangement syndrome right there on television by senators.
At some point I got to ask the question out loud.
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Can we solve anything? Can we unite and be anything?
If we can't get beyond in doctrination versus education, or
narrative versus reality, or emotion versus real understanding, we don't
solve the matrix. I am convinced we can't solve it.
I'll give you three examples, and I'll give you five
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master's degrees, and we'll see if David Sinati can solve
it when your morning show continues next.
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enjoy the podcast. Let's start with this decision. So the
Supreme Court will uphold Tennessee and by doing so, twenty
four other states with it in total that restrict gender
transition care for children and for minors. We'd have to
really split hairs and unpeel this justice Roberts. His big
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big quote was this case carries with it the weight
of fierce scientific and policy debates about safety, efficacy, and
propriety of medical treatments in an evolving field. The voices
in these debates raise sincere concerns, and the implications for
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all are profound and the Equal Protection Clause does not
resolve these disagreements. So look, you can't stop parents from
putting their children or allowing their children to be put
into permanent harm for something that was once understood as temporary.
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But you got to do something and try. I think
that's what this tries to do and does do. Beyond that,
I don't think you can keep stupid from happening, or
dangerous decisions permanent decisions to be made in a temporary
state of mind. I played a long clip earlier and
I did it on purpose, and I just let it
play and play and play, because this was a very
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very serious man having a very very serious discussion about
the science behind this, the history behind this, from poetry,
you know, from everything, and it just I did it
to prove the point of how unserious we discussed this topic.
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It's all emotion, it's all cultural narrative and very little science.
And unfortunately that culture, narrative and emotion met a Supreme
Court looking at science and law. So what was accomplished,
David Zanati and what wasn't our senior correspondent, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
Michael, and I'm still reviewing. We're still reviewing the decision.
But in typical Roberts fashion, he tries to find the
smallest thread upon which to make a decision, as opposed
to setting too wide or too broad a precedent. Now,
let's say what he didn't do. He didn't use the
case or find grounds to use the case to build
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a consensus in regards to the Kennedy doctrine. Justice Anthony
Kenny beginning it the whole way back to two thousand
and three on the idea that human sexuality is the
equivalent of personhood.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
So by keeping.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
The equal protection clause out of the debate, he avoided
that conversation. Eventually, the court is going to have to
come to that place of discussing whether as a culture
we have legal precedent to define humanity based on sexual
proclivity or practice or preference. The dicta, the words of
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the Kennedy doctrine that came in the two thousand and
three decision from the Texas case, then proceeded through the
case is the whole way up to a Bergerfeld in
twenty fifteen.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Now, this case could have gone.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
That direction, but Roberts blocked that and said, let's just
deal with medical efficacy. He does the state of a
compelling interest to protect minor children against physically harmful practices
that are being called medicine in an essence anti scientific
because they carry great harm. So they ruled at that level.
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That's tough, that's in essence the court practicing medicine. But
they're getting away with it because England proceeded and because
the facts are overwhelmingly and compelling in that direction.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
They're overwhelming showing a precedent. Are you kidding me?
Speaker 4 (20:32):
This court since the days of early days of Ginsburg,
the United States Supreme Court is going back to the
colonial idea that we're the little babies in the world
that we need to follow European law, you know, and
make the mother country happy. I mean, this is international
law should be according to our Constitution, should be meaningless
to this court. But from the political side, in this
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court is always been very political. It helps right in
that regard because somebody else went first.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
So now they're saying it.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
You bring up that the court can't play doctor in this.
But at some point I'm looking at the liberal Justice
Sonya Sodomiyor's descent and her dissent opinion.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
She says.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
The majority's conclusion that the law does not discriminate based
on both sex and transgender status, and should therefore be
analyzed closely. She's going to have a hard time because
there's not real hard medical proof that much has changed
since dysphoria number one and then number two, that the
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numbers just.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Don't match history.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
You don't just suddenly have I mean, you still basically
have just twenty thousand on a three hundred and forty
million that are truly transgendered, but they're treated like they're
twenty million.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
At some point, medical science is going to have to
have a.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
Say, right, Well, now, the court was able to ignore
six thousand of recorded history in regards to the institution
of marriage. True, so they can do whatever they want
because it's a political court. But they and they took
a path here that had wisdom in it and that
it was honest, and that the medical science here is awful.
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But the bigger question that has to be asked is
if the medical science is awful, then why should adults
be permitted to access devastating harmful care if it extends forward?
Speaker 3 (22:32):
In other words, if it's awful.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Now do we have to litigate on whether or not
getting transgender surgery cares? Drugs et cetera from eighteen years
older is equally harmful to the individual, and does the
state have a compelling interest to protect individuals against bad medicine?
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Should Tennessee be celebrating a victory, should twenty four other
states be celebrating a victory?
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Well, it is a step in the direction.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
I mean, there is logic, and there is people will
be saved from harm because of this.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
So yeah, I think.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
It's it's a victory for people who are trying to
love their neighbor, and I think that Tennessee should should
recognize that. Yeah, the court agreed with them on this,
but there's a long way to.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Go on this debate.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
I can't imagine what the percentage would be, but what
percentage of America knows that Joe Biden wasn't president and
is dying to know the answer of who really was?
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Well?
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Senator John Cornine was making his statements in a hearing
to find out as Democrats got up and walked down.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
In this instance, the vice president and the cabinet the
very ones authorized by the twenty fifth Amendment to question
the president's capacity.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
They did nothing.
Speaker 5 (23:42):
Are their penalties when the Congress will excuse me when
the cabinet and the vice president refused to carry out
their duties under Section four of the twenty fifth Amendment,
should there be more accountability?
Speaker 1 (23:57):
And as he's talking, they get up and the walk.
So ever, going to find out who's president. We're going
to have a serious hearing to find out what may be,
in fact, the greatest scandal in American political history.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
Maybe if Jake Tapper writes a second book, Who's Who's
going to have to come out and tell the truth. Sure,
and obviously we know what was going on and it's clear,
but this is amazing the strategy of the Democrats.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
I think it's very important understand. I'm an independent.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
I can criticize the Republicans on any given day just
as much as the Democrats were independent for a reason.
But when a group just says, we're not going to
talk about this anymore, across the board, the Democrats, we
an't going to talk about January sixth, whoa, and but
we're gonna we're going to talk about no Kings. You
better believe we're going to talk about that, but we're
not going to talk about who was president. Now on
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one side, the No King's Congressional representatives over the weekend
are railing about we don't have three equal branches of government.
That's right, we don't vers is the most important branch regard,
Yes it is, but they won't even show up in
their own Congress saying it's the most important to talk
about the administration that never was.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
You can't stop playing shirts and skins, all right, But
they're playing a narrative game that they don't control anymore.
You know, there was a time where they controlled ap UPI, ABC, NBCCBS,
and then when cable arose, they took control of cable
and all you had was Fox, an establishment republican opposing
view to what they controlled on the far left MSNBCCNN
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and so on. They don't have any of that, nobody has.
Everybody's turned to podcasting. It's not even talk radio offsetting
this anymore. It's podcasting. So they're playing a narrative game
they can't control, and they can't silence opposing views because
they don't control X anymore.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Is this a winning play for them?
Speaker 4 (25:48):
Well, their base is still under their full control. The
institutional media is still a total show for them, and
they own that show. So they still have their base.
And remember their base is not small. Their base failed
to defeat Donald Trump by roughly two hundred thousand votes.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Yeah, but their base is very divided and doesn't have
a leader, and it doesn't trust their DNC. They don't trust.
They've got some troubles moving for. I want to dismount.
I want to dismount with this. This is a United
States Senator in a hearing with a Secretary of Defense.
Hegseeth and and she was just one of many delusional
losing their mind in full Trump derangement. Now it's either
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full Trump derangement or you know it's it's it's a tactic.
But at the end of the day, this is creating
a boogeyman with a narrative and then you look insane
as you're reacting to something that you created that doesn't
exist in reality.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Listen, not want citizens to be scared of their own military.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
I love the military.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
I served alongside my own I mean, the only citizens
that are scared of their own military are the ones
at the left, the political activists and the political active
legacy media is telling you to be afraid of But
every citizen Paul after.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Paul or not.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
And then she's like, I was in the military, and
in your I'm scared answer this question, He's like, don't
believe everything you read, unless, of course it's the Bible.
In other words, you're just creating this stuff. How do
we solve anything. We have indoctrination, not education. So like
on the gender issue, we have people that are completely
ignorant of the topic, but they have a firm position
or they've been indoctrinated in a position. We have narratives,
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it's over reality. We have emotion that's over understanding, but
don't solve the matrix. How do we solve any of this?
Speaker 4 (27:38):
Fella's all I can say is that's why we do
your morning show, because somebody has got to take an
honest perspective and say, look, the truth alone sets us free.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
And the key is and it will have its day. Yeah,
it always does. The truth always has it.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
So in that we can take some sense of comfort,
but we can't. We can't relax for one simple reason.
The other side has got billions of dollars and they
are starting to spend those billions through no kings, and
no King's total objective is to regain power. That's what
they're all about. They want power and if you heard
a rooster crow three times, it's because they've already announced
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in the name of the man who coined the phrase
good trouble, they're going to demonstrate again in July because
they're not going away. This is their strategy with no leader,
with no program, with no message or messenger. Chaos in
the streets is their plan for the midterms. And I
believe ultimately beyond Yeah, and if you study, it's at
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No Kings I encourage everyone to go to No Kings
dot org. Takes read them, listen to them, and you'll
hear and you'll see.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Love our time together, David, thank you so much. When
we come back, we're going to give Rory the final story,
the las done, the tensions with Israel and Iran, and
the role America will play when your morning show continues next.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
This is your morning show with Michael del Chrono.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Thanks so much for making us a part of your
morning routine. After all, the show belongs to you. At
your morning show. We've got the thunder going for an
NBA championship tonight with a win. If the Pacers should win,
it'll force a Game seven in Oklahoma City. We got
a hurricane Eric category two out in the Eastern Pacific
Supreme Court upholding a Tennessee law that restricts gender transition
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care for children and miners. And then we have a
Ran and a Rock. So let me get you up
to speed. Donald Trump has tried everything. None of it
has worked. Now Iran is losing its nuclear capability because
Israel is taking it away. And even now faced with
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the decision whether the US should be involved in some
of these air strikes, I presume the President's probably made
his decision, but he certainly hasn't given the order trying
to give the Iotola war time. Roy O'Neill's joining us
now our national correspondent and Rory based on Iranian television
last night, I think it's obvious that Supreme Iotola is
not going to surrender. He is not going to back down.
(30:17):
I don't know how much more time Donald Trump can
get him or his people.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Right.
Speaker 6 (30:23):
But at the same time, you know, there are questions
about what's the rush right now. You know, we know
that there's this disagreement with the President and d n
I Telsey Gabbart about what Iran's nuclear capabilities are in
that time frame. But Benjamin Yahoo and President Trump both
feel that Iran was very close to getting a nuclear
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weapons so there's a bit of a divide there. So
it'll be interesting to see what the president's decision is.
I think largely based on the reaction the fallout after.
How does Iran respond? Does a take on American assets
in the Middle East? Does it shut down the straight
of horror moved and send gas prices skyrocketing?
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Well, there ought to be two big questions on the table,
I would think. I mean, we're not in the speculation business,
but one would be if you stopped right now, even
if you think they were within a two months. Let's say,
I gotta grab random dates because it's all question marks.
But if we thought that they were two months away
from having the ability to carry out a nuclear strike,
what are they at today without this last big centrifuge
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area half a mile underground and mark and mount four
dou four dough back to square one? Probably not would
take them seven years, eight years. See nobody who can
put a number on any of that. I mean, I
like what you're saying, what's the rush? If you did
nothing right now, they're back to square five at least,
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if not square one. But if you're going to do it,
finish it, or get him to the table to volitionally
give it up once and for all.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
But he's not coming to the table. No, And then
you know, we've.
Speaker 6 (32:01):
Heard I think Israel has been just more vocal about
saying we want regime change in Iran. And so now
if that's what the goal is, not necessarily just the
nuclear program, if it's all about regime change, although that's
something different because you know who's next, and what do
you do to try to do nation building after that?
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Yeah, And I don't know if it's fair to put
it on Telsa Gabbard, who, by the way, I have
a great deal of respect for. But you know, Donald
Trump too, like Telsa Gabbard, isn't interested in nation building,
isn't interested in being involved. Now, an airstrike on a
centrifuge facility is not nation building necessarily in and of itself.
But I think that's both of their concerns and getting
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involved beyond just being supportive. But I don't know of
any probably other really easy, conclusive, decisive way or better
time than now than to throw a bunker buster in
there and end that capability.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Now.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Now, the biggest thing today is we don't know what
Israel's response is going to be to Iran hitting a hospital.
I mean they've been hitting targeted facilities to create a
weapon of mass destruction. They just hit the most vulnerable
in the hospital in eighty five or injured. So I
would imagine that's on the table today as well, right.
Speaker 6 (33:18):
And that certainly might help President Trump make a decision
one way or the other.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Yeah, all right, Roy, great reporting.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
As always, listen, wars escalate, they do, and they rarely
end where they begin, and they rarely end with the
players they begin with. So that is all to be
measured and taken into account. But Iran's motive, that's ancient.
Their means was close. Where is it now? And is
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now the time to really set it back to stage one?
So I'm a talk show host and he's the president.
He's got a tough decision to make. The President has
yet to give the order. I presume the decision has
probably been made.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
We're all in this together. This is your Morning Show
with Michael del Journo.