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So delighted to have you at our kitchen table this morning.
And welcome to Friday, the twenty first of June. Put
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that into perspective. Do you realize we're almost halfway with
this year? I know, it feels like I started a
month ago. I still walk around. How the weather out
side is right? We do? It feels like it was
just Christmas. If you're just waking up millions of people
under the heat dome, under heat alerts in the Northeast
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and the Midwest as the heat wave continues. Has Blah,
as we have talked about and warned, moss is falling,
has Belas coming right behind them because you're ultimately fighting Iran.
But here comes has Belah, ramping up attacks on Israel.
And the US Supreme Court is going to issue more
opinions today. We're going to visit with White House correspondent
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John Decker a little bit later on about swing states.
But while we have them, we're going to talk about
that because we are expecting and of course the big
one is the immunity case. More and more opinions being
released by the Supreme Court this week. And Donald Southern
passed away at the age of eighty eight. I know
in our news report they keep mentioning which was a
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breakthrough for him, Animal House. Unfortunately, that's a visual that
since freshman year, or maybe I was eighth grade when
Animal House came out. I can't remember. Now. My buddy
Keith Andrews, living down a mobile Alabama, who listens every day,
is going to remind me what year it was, but
it seems like it was eighth grade. Animal House might
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have been freshman year. But you know there's a scene
where in the morning he comes into the kitchen and
he's wearing a sweater and then he reaches up high
in the pantry. But you know, when I think of Donald,
something brilliant in the movie Outbreak, all star cast, Dustin Hoffman,
Brene Russo, Coopa Gooding Junior. I mean, everybody's in that
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movie Disclosure. As we were joking with Aaron Reyell earlier,
Michael Dugas always plays a pig that's cheated on his wife.
In this one, of course, he's getting harassed and forced
out of a company that Donald Sutherland owns. He's just
a brilliant actor in whatever he did. And then we
had some fun with the Invasion of the bos these Snatchers,
because it's one of the great classic endings, by the way,
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that brings up a favorite ending of a movie ever,
favorite I Gotta Go with You Got Mail. I just
I love that ending, But Invasion of the Body Snatchers
would be up there. I want to in case somebody
goes like last night we watched I'll Break just to
honor Donald Sutherland. But I could have easily chosen Disclosure
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those are probably my I guess those are my two favorites.
But Invasion of the Body Snatchers, I mean, that's one
of the great endings of a movie. Goods. But we
lost Donald Sutherlm. Then we got Game six tonight in
the NHL Stanley Cup Finals. Sor right presidential politics. We
did this throughout the week, and all that really matters
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is the swing states. I mean, make no mistake about it.
There are some states that are blue and we know
they're going to be blue. There are some states that
are red are going to be red. Well, we didn't
expect five months out were states like New York to
be in play. Virginia, it's not only in play donald
Trump is leading. New Hampshire is not only in play.
Donald Trump is leading. But when we talk about the
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swing states that we know are the swing states that
are going to decide this now in twenty sixteen, twenty sixteen,
we didn't even get to Nevada and Arizona. It was
over before we got there. I remember that night we
were doing election coverage and I said, well, it's gonna
be a long night because we're not gonna know anything
til Arizona and Nevada. So everybody should be prepared to
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be on the air till after midnight. Later, with Hillary
not conceding and Podesta coming out after midnight, we knew
it would be a longer night. But the reality was
Florida easily went, North Carolina easily went, then Pennsylvania went,
and I'm like, okay, I don't think Hillary's going to win,
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and then boom the shoe dropped Wisconsin and Michigan. So
to this day, you know, it kind of shifts. There
was a time Ohio was the poster child of swing states.
In Florida, they've now turned pretty consistently and reliably read.
So when we talk about swing states, we're talking about Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Georgia.
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These are the swing states, Arizona, Nevada, and Donald Trump
leads them all. So I mentioned this last half hour,
and just in case your alarm clock just went off.
Remember there's new leadership at the Washington Post, and they
it leaked the entire meeting, and this big you know,
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come to Jesus, as the expression goes, and he shoots
straight with all the writers and all the editors. Nobody's
reading your stuff. So finally, somebody is going to talk truth,
and I doubt at the leftist Washington Post they like
somebody coming from the Wall Street Journal to take over.
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And he said, hey, look, the bottom line is nobody's
reading your stuff. You're not just perceived bias. You've been biased.
So when I saw this story at first, my first
thought was, is this the beginning of a new Washington
Post or is it just so obvious they can't even
ignore it. So the headline is Trump's convictions. They fueled
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a donation surge and it could reshape the entire contest.
The Trump campaign, the Republican National Committee, and an allied
super pac raised more than one hundred and seventy million
dollars in May alone. Now again, you know, it reminds
me of the herschel Walker trade. Those listening in Dallas
will appreciate this, but you've got to go. If you're
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the Dallas Cowboys, and you gotta go. You got all
those draft choices, but you got to pick the right people,
and they did and built the dynasty. So you got
one hundred and seventy million dollars in May, but you
got to spend it right. And this isn't going to
be necessarily commercials, bodies on the ground in swing states
doing effective things. So the presumption whenever we do this
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is that they're going to spend the money. Well, I mean,
just to give you a big picture stat Biden raised
eighty five million. Trump raised one hundred and thirty one million.
So the whole strategy, he's a fellon, he's a fella,
he's a felon. It's not impacting numbers, in fact, it's
helping Trump and numbers. It's not impacting donations. In fact,
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it's helping Trump with donations. So it failed. And there's
another story today that actually talks about that this whole
thing has failed. CNN headline, Biden searing character attacks on
Trump may tell a story about his own campaign struggles,
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and what it boils down to is And I'll spare
you the whole article. When we look at poles of
swings dates and we see Democrat Senate candidates doing well
and leading, and Joe Biden that exact same state and
that exact same poll losing and losing bigger, you got
a Biden problem. The analysis I don't necessarily disagree with
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the reality I do. It's a worldview, policy, view, party platform, failure,
not a Joe Biden failure. In fact, you and I
both know it's probably not even Joe Biden calling the
shots like the truth we do. If you lifted the
mask off, it's probably George Soroser, John Podesta, Barack Obama.
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But again that's CNN and the Washington Post, two big
articles this morning, and they're just saying, we're getting our
butt kicked. This guy can't win. But let's look at
the fundraising alone and how it's backfired. Trump's main campaign
committee and the RNC reportedly raised twenty eight million dollars
over the last two months, the last two days of
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May alone. It's two days of May alone, twenty eight
million from donors giving at least two hundred dollars. According
to federal records, Donors gave nearly thirty million dollars to
Trump's campaign after he was convicted of falsifying business records.
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So you can walk around and SCNNA saying, I mean,
we're just shocked. You're calling the guy a felon, you're
calling the guy a rapist. We've never heard this type
of campaign rhetoric before, and it's not capable of reshaping reality.
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Part of that because we live in a matrix. Donald
Trump being convicted was good news for half of the matrix,
and for the other half of the matrix that thought
it was going to be a winning bad news. It's
only because they live in a bubble that they think
that his polling went up and his donations won. Now
you're left was an old guy that you're trying to
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convince everybody they're being deep faked in videos. They end
up with desperate gaslighting. Now what is this all boiled
down to? It can only be two things at this point.
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I remember having a personal conversation with a very smart
political person, and I said to that person, one of
the biggest problems, if passed is prologue that the right
continues to make is they're always reacting to Democrat strategies
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from previous election cycles, and they've moved on to another one.
So the big question becomes how they went In twenty twenty,
they were headed for Bernie Sanders again. They cut a
deal in North Carolina. They sold you an old man
who was going to restore the dialogue in America. We're
not going to fight about everything we're and get away
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from craziness. And they hit him in a basement, and
they weaponized COVID and changed election laws, and then they
would tell you they still live far and square. They
controlled the narrative through the media, They silenced any opposing
views because they controlled technocracy and social media. And then
they went out changing election laws, avoiding state legislatures, which
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was frankly unconstitutional, and they were able to harvest ballots
and take the election. And they told you the justification
for it was to save democracy. And it's in their
own words. Just go read the Time magazine Shadow Campaign
to Save the Democracy. It's a February fifteenth issue of
twenty twenty one. You won't believe what you're reading. It's
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a manifesto of what they did. Now the notion would
they try that again? Is that what they're going to
do in twenty twenty four. No, but they might have
something else up their sleeve. And I said, and it's
now been a almost a year and a half ago,
and it looks crazy true today. But here's the bottom line.
They're either going to make a switch. He is not
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coming out of the convention as the top of the ticket.
They're going to make a switch before. Some have suggested
if he bombs in the debate. They'll make the switch
before the convention. But let's go back to what I
said a year and a half ago. That also seems
to be coming into view. If you're that same Podesta,
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that same Soros, that same Obama, you could be looking
at these polling numbers completely different. Sure, Biden's losing in
all these swing states, but their Senate candidates and their
House candidates are doing well despite him. And let's face it,
whether Trump wins or Biden wins, they only get one
term and it's not even a full four years. As
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you know, who cares about the presidency. Only the media
and only America gets fixated on the presidency. The real
control in the direction of government and our country comes
from the House and the Senate. Could they be playing
Biden to lose? You're focused on that, You're celebrating Election night,
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big Trump victory, And meanwhile, they took control of the House,
and they controlled the Senate, and the real presidential election
is until the next one four years from now. It's
one or the other. He's either getting ready to go
or he's the distraction and the real show is stealing
the House in the Senate.
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Top five stories of the days. Well, we talked about
this yesterday, right Amas is falling, but here comes has
blow because it's really about Iran. Mark Mayfield reports.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
State Department spokesman Matthew Miller told reporters the Lebanon based
terrorist group is targeting civilian infrastructure inside Israel. He said
the US is concerned the conflict is escalating. The Iran
backed group has been showing Israel's northern border in retaliation
for Israel's assassination of a senior Hensbelah commander. The leader
of Hensbo law this week found to fight with no
red lines if an all out war breaks out between
(14:26):
Lebanon and Israel, and warned neighboring Cyprus the country could
be targeted in the conflict. I'm Mark Mayfield.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
President Biden and Donald Trump preparing for their first debate.
Brian Shook has that story.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
Biden is hunkering down with his advisors in Camp David
as he focuses on ways to hold Trump accountable for
his record. On the debate stage in Atlanta, Trump meanwhile,
is said to be holding policy discussions with his allies
and vice presidential hopefuls, as he aims to assure voters
he can be a more effective leader than his political rival.
(14:58):
The debate, hosted by CNNA, will take place on June
twenty seventh, with no studio audience. I'm Brian Shook.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
There was a coin toss. I wonder if they had, like,
you know, Jake Tapper, dressed like a referee, flip the coin.
You can do that. Biden won the coin toss. He
chose to be on the right podium, which gave Donald
Trump the choice of speaking first or last. Donald Trump
will get the last say. The first debate is next Thursday,
June the twenty seventh. While the Governor New York wants
to do something about the addictive nature and the harms
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of social media, Kristin Marx reports.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
Hogel says platforms like TikTok and Instagram pull kids in
with their addictive forces.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
They're trying to transport them from happy, go lucky kids
into teenagers who are depressed, isolating themselves from human contact.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
The first in the nation legislation bans social media companies
from showing children content that's based on their user history,
such as posts they've previously liked. It also prohibits platforms
from collecting, using, or selling their personal data.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
It was just days ago that the US.
Speaker 5 (16:01):
Surgeon General called for warning labels for kids on social media,
much like the ones for tobacco products.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Kristin Marx.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
NBC News Radio New.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
York Treasure actor Donald Sutherland has passed away at the
age of eighty eight. Lisa Taylor reports, why do you
think we have a winner?
Speaker 4 (16:16):
What do you mean?
Speaker 1 (16:17):
I mean, why do we have a winner?
Speaker 2 (16:21):
I mean, if we just wanted to intimidate the district's
why not round up twenty four of them at random
and execute.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
The moments would be a lot faster. The Hope Hope Hope.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
Sutherland is known for his roles in the Hunger Games franchise,
The Dirty Dozen, Ordinary People, Mash and Animal House. His
agency and family confirmed he died at his home in Miami.
Southerland was nominated for numerous awards in his six decade career,
including winning a Critics Choice Award and Primetime Emmy. His son,
Keyfer Sutherland said he believes his dad was one of
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the most important actors in the history of film. I'm
Missa Taylor.
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Lyon is together We're on a mission from God help
the ball club. I just want to help the ball
club in any way we can. We were pouring through
the numbers, and you know, whether you're looking at polling
numbers in swing states, but really the numbers we were
looking at this morning in depth was the fundraising numbers.
It paints a pretty clear picture. Even the Washington Post
is saying, you know, for all the attempts to demonize
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Donald Trump as a felon, as a rapist as of this,
or is it that it just can't find evidence that
it hurt him. White House correspondent and attorney John Decker
is joining us. Well, they got their verdict, but they
didn't get their results, did they.
Speaker 7 (18:20):
Well, let's take a look at the latest polls. And
we're going to be doing this a lot between now
and November the fifth, because it gives you a sense
about where this race is right now. We spoke earlier
this week about a Fox News poll that suggested that
Donald Trump was down by two points to President Biden nationally.
I don't pay attention to national polls. What I do
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pay attention to, however, are polls in the key battleground states,
the swing states. And there's a new poll out from
Emerson College which indicates that Trump has a lead over
Joe Biden in every major swing state, including Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Arizona, Georgia,
and Nevada. Now, the margins are very narrow, still within
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the pole's margin of error, but it does give you
a sense about where things stand in the race in
these key battleground states with less than one week to
go until that first presidential debate.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Now, the first order of business is, well, what are
the battleground states? And you know, we all know, I
think we all everyone agrees on Nevada and Arizona. Now,
twenty sixteen, it was over by the time it got there.
In twenty twenty, went Biden's way before it got there.
But one thing we always say, Donald Trump can win
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without Pennsylvania, kN Joe Biden. But never mind Pennsylvania. The
way Michigan and Wisconsin is looking, with the way Virginia
and George is looking. Heck, even New Hampshire to some
degree is very much in play. So I guess the
first question is what are the real main And I
think there's probably seven, maybe eight this time, and five
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that are core to it. Do you think it's still
looking like it boils down to Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania.
Speaker 7 (20:04):
Yeah, that's right. So as it relates to Pennsylvania, you
asked a question without providing an answer. Let me provide
an answer for you. You asked about Pennsylvania and President Biden.
President Biden cannot win the presidency without Pennsylvania. That's the
reason why you see him travel to Pennsylvania almost every week.
It's either President Biden traveling there or the first Lady
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or the Vice president. It is the lynch pin, the
lynch pin of his re election strategy. And that means
that potentially we could know, because it's East Coast time,
we could know relatively early where things stan. On November fifth,
November the sixth, you bleed into past midnight where things
stand in terms of who wins in twenty twenty four,
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just solely based upon the results in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Do you remember the old, the good old days when
the swing state main swing state was Ohio. As Ohio
went so the entry went Florida. Now they're more solid red.
I mean for me, and you've done a lot of
election nights like I have. You know, I see Virginia,
North Carolina go Trump's sway, and then he takes Pennsylvania.
I don't even need to get to Wisconsin and Michigan.
I know where this is. Added.
Speaker 7 (21:14):
Well, that's right, I agree with you, But yeah, I
mean look, I don't think that you know, you mentioned
North Carolina. North Carolina. The Biden campaign is going to
make a push for North Carolina, and I think that's,
you know, a valid thing to do in the sense
that Republicans have a terrible uh a general election candidate
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up for governors, so maybe that impacts things to a
certain degree. But I think overall we've seen this push
by Democrats to win North Carolina a few election cycles
and it's just always coming up a little bit short.
New Hampshire. I don't think it's going to be in
Donald Trump's column in November. He can make a push there.
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To me, you know, it's a it is a zero
sum game, Michael. You know, if you're spending one dollar
in let's say New Hampshire, that's one less dollar you're
spending in a place like Wisconsin or Michigan. And that's
why I think most of the attention will be on
those key battleground states or swing states that you mentioned.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
And make no mistake about it. The reason we talk
about youth vote, it's campus get out to votes that
are in the line black vote. It's the votes near Philadelphia.
In order to take Pennsylvania, these are the reasons why
they're focusing on these voting blocks that Democrats have been
able to count on. It's loosely and I disagree with
this before I even say it, but because I think
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it's going to be its own unique twenty twenty four map.
But you know, everybody's trying to discern is this the
twenty sixteen Trump map over Hillary Clinton's? Is the twenty
twenty Biden map over Donald Trump? And I think it's
going to be its own unique twenty twenty four map.
Speaker 7 (22:46):
Different, It's definitely different from those two maps. You know,
you start off with the states that Hillary Clinton won,
you know, and you put them in the in the
Democrats column and did Joe Biden's column. But from that
point forward, it's very different. The dynamic is different. You know,
the issues are different than what you've looked at in
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twenty sixteen and also even in twenty twenty. Now we
see what an important issue border security is for a
lot of voters across the country. That wasn't a top
issue in twenty sixteen or twenty twenty. It is a
top issue now. And Joe Biden is the incumbent president,
so he owns this issue. Given the fact that you know,
he can determine, you know, the extent to which that
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problem exists.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
So border inflation, Israel, all real big problems. Can I
give you another one. This is a theory I've been
kicking around. An AI is going to make this come true.
But it's going to get to the point where we
don't know what reality is. I don't know a fake
from a reality. So somebody could really rob a bank.
I see the video of it, but I'll assume it's
a fake or I won't know, so anything can go.
But so to me, the only reality left is perception.
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Look at Rasmussen polling today, forty seven percent see their
financial situation getting work. They already don't think things are
going well because of the feel of inflation. That's the
economy stupid, a big problem for Joe Biden. And then
we go to the Washington Post and the fundraising numbers
are there, so they got their conviction and boom, the
money goes Donald Trump's way. But as I said, behind
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your back, and I'll say it to you and get
your opinion. It's kind of like the herschel Walker trade, right.
You know, you had to be the Dallas Cowboys and
go make the right five draft choices. All right, So
Donald Trump's got the money advantage since being convicted, but
he's got to spend it, right, and there's not a
history of the Republicans doing that.
Speaker 7 (24:35):
Well, that's right, you know, you do have to spend
It's all about the ground game, making certain that you
have the people on the ground in those key states,
to make certain that you're getting out the vote, that
your supporters are indeed registering in the numbers that you'd
like to see. So, yes, it does depend how you
spend that money, for sure, and who has more cash
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on hand. Money is a factor. But you know, look,
I think that for most voters in this election cycle,
money is not going to make as much a difference
as it did in other election cycles, because people by
and large have already made up their minds one way
or the other. And you know, a few extra dollars
being spent in Pennsylvania or Ohio or Michigan or Wisconsin
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is not going to make all of the amount of
difference that it would in a different election cycle.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
I promise those as if I had a thirty seconds,
I would ask you Supreme Court's going to start issuing
more opinions today. We don't expect the immunity one today.
I don't think, well, you never know.
Speaker 7 (25:33):
I mean, seriously, this is the Supreme Court. We learn
when we learn, that's the one that so many people,
including myself, are paying so much attention to. I was
in the hearing concerning this issue and the d C.
Circuit Court of Appeals. I was in the Supreme Court
for oral arguments on this particular case. I think the
Supreme Court, as it relates to that particular issue, is
likely to send the issue back down to the Federal
(25:54):
District Court here in Washington to determine what were official
acts and what were not official acts take and by
President Trump before they take up the meat of this issue.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Supreme Court bar attorney and White House correspondent John Decker,
great reporting, have a great weekend. We'll talk next week.
Speaker 7 (26:10):
Michael, thanks so much.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Hey.
Speaker 7 (26:14):
I'm Olympic gold medalist Scott Hamilton, and my morning show
is your Morning Show with Michael del Jordan.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Fifty minutes after the hour Red Rights at Michael de
Atiheartmedia dot Com that Sam Emerson Pole that Decker was
just referencing as Trump ahead in Minnesota and a five
way race with Independent Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan. But I got
news for you New York, New Hampshire, maybe even New Jersey.
Who knows what's in play as the electoral College map
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five months These are all polls asking the question if
the election are held today. And the one thing we
do know is the election will not be held today.
But it doesn't look good for old Joe five months out,
that's for sure. It's waking up. It's fifty one minutes
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This is your morning show. I am Michael del journo
and has Belah is stepping up and ramping up attacks
(27:10):
in Israel. Mark Mayfield has that disturbing report.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Sneak Department spokesman Matthew Miller told reporters the Lebanon based
terrorist group is targeting civilian infrastructure inside Israel. He said
the US is concerned the conflict is escalating. The Iran
backed group has been showing Israel's northern border in retaliation
for Israel's assassination of a senior henswe Lah commander. The
leader of Henswoll Law this week found to fight with
no red lines if an all out war breaks out
(27:34):
between Lebanon and Israel, and warned neighboring Cyprus the country
could be targeted in the conflict. I'm Mark Mayfield.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Well the Democrats route for Hesbalan now over Israel as well.
President Biden. President Trump preparing even as we speak for
the first debate. Brian Shook report.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
Biden is hunkering down with his advisors in Camp David
as he focuses on ways to hold Trump accountable for
his record on the debate stage in Atlanta. Trump meanwhile,
is said to be holding policy discussions with his allies
and vice presidential hopefuls as he aims to assure voters
he can be a more effective leader than his political rival.
(28:10):
The debate, hosted by CNN, will take place on June
twenty seventh, with no studio audience. I'm Brian Shook.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
How do you get Ted Cruz and AOC on the
same page? Do something for waiters and bartenders? Tammy Trechilo
has that story.
Speaker 8 (28:24):
The Texas Republican filed a bill that would exempt tips
from federal income tax. Cruz called the legislation a pro
worker plan that will help families deal with inflation. Cash
tips include those received in actual cash, as well as
via credit card, debit card, and checks. A similar bill
was filed by Republicans in the House earlier this week
and has the support of former President Trump.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
I'm Tammy TRUHEO had inflation. Well, one of the leading
causes is government debt. And if you think thirty five
trillions a lot. A new or report says that in
the next ten years, the US date debt is on
pace to top fifty second even a man this number,
fifty six trillion dollars. Our national correspondent Rory O'Neil has
(29:05):
the latest on that report. Good morning, Rory, Hey, good morning.
Speaker 9 (29:08):
Yeah, the number is really difficult to wrap your head around.
But think of it this way. With the current debt
that we had, each American would have currently owes about
one hundred and three thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
I have often said this, Rory, we ought to send
the bill to the American people. They might take, you know,
holding their elected officials accountable and their big spend. I
think that's the disconnect. It's as much of a disconnect
as using chips at a casino table rather than cash
to disassociate that it's real money and real money you're
paying for Maybe if every household got the bill and
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it became exactly what it is. Otherwise, what are we
ultimately heading to default? Right? Right? Well, yeah, I let's
send the bill out for on Halloween and that might
motivate you from the vote the week later. How about
that a big tick or treat? Right?
Speaker 9 (29:57):
And yeah, these numbers are just as I said, impossible
to comprehend. We haven't even seen a budget passed by
Congress in a decade.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Let alone a balanced one. And even that dates back
to what Bill Clinton and Newt Gingrich.
Speaker 9 (30:12):
And yes, I'm hoping that this topic comes up at
the presidential debate on Thursday, but more members of Congress
have to be asked about this as well. You know,
four hundred and thirty five of them are for reelection
in November and they should all be getting grilled about
what they want to do about the debt.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Yeah, and this is this is a failure of both parties,
by the way, But I mean, you know, you look
at there's two things that I don't know if you've
ever done at Rory, but I have. And it's fascinating. One,
look at the history of taxation. There was no taxes.
Then we had, you know, a war, and so we
had a temporary tax, and when the war was over,
it went away. Then we had another war, and then
we had a temporary tax, and then it never went away,
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and then it began to grow. When you look at
the debt year by year by year by year, you're
going to see massive things in history, like world wars
or you know, like the Yeah, major events. So we're
just tootling along, and then you get to about two
thousand and we're you know, I think I think we
were five point six billion in debt, and then we
(31:10):
get to ten trillion by two thousand and eight. Yeah.
So but then by the time Baracco leave, Barack Obama leaves,
we go from ten to twenty trillion. So we doubled
it in one year. We took two hundred and something years.
We doubled in eight years, and then we didn't do
much better in the next you know, eight years after that,
between Trump and Biden. And so we're sitting at thirty
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five trillion dollars and we're looking at a ten year
pace of at least fifty six trillion dollars of debt.
It's breathtaking. This is a this is not a long
history of misspending. This is a catastrophic twenty years of
loss of what the proper size and role of government
is and what the threat of debt is.
Speaker 9 (31:54):
Right, And I would also say that you know here
we are about to we're going to go The deficit
this year.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Is one point nine trillion dollars. So let's say two
tru you and I are friends, will round up.
Speaker 9 (32:03):
Yes, So we're going into two trillion dollars in additional
debt without being really at war, with the economy doing okay,
with no pandemic.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
So what happens, you know, if something does happen, you know,
like life, life happens, you know. And by the way,
things are escalating between North and South Korea. Now you
got Hesbala coming to table. It's ultimately Iran. You still
have Russia now with North Korean support and Ukraine. I mean,
war could could happen. World War could be on the
table to some degree or expanded. I mean they're disasters
(32:37):
or another virus or whatever. Life happens, As the bumper
sticker says.
Speaker 9 (32:41):
Right, so we're going to be at one hundred and
twenty two percent of GDP to the debt, right, and
that's where we were at World War Two.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
That kind of spending.
Speaker 9 (32:50):
So I mean, you know, that kind of open figot
spending is something that happens during World War Two.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
It's not supposed to be happening now. And yeah, I say,
we're down to one minute. Here's the bottom line. We're
talking about how what caused it in the past, what's
causing it now? Well that's the good. Well, there you go.
A lack of leadership, I would say.
Speaker 9 (33:08):
And by the way we are spending on interest, this
is also making more expensive rising interest rates.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
We pay as much in interest as we do in
national defense this year. Say that again. By the way,
it has been that way other times recently in the
last ten years. This is what will happen to you
at home. You charge up all your credit cards to
the max, all your minimum payments will soon rise to
as much as you're paying for your mortgage. It will
take you over, it will swallow you up. You will
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become a slave to it. But think about that. The
primary role of the formation of the federal government is
for the protection of its people and for the funding
of military for war. And your interest alone is greater
than your entire budget. For your defense. That will tell
you how this kind of financial calamity can lead to
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an issue of being a national security issue as well.
Figure it's an astounding number, Rory. It won't be top today.
I'll tell you that you get the story of the day.
We are thirty five trillion in debt, headed to fifty
six and ten years. So imagine what life's like for
your kids ten years from now. Rory. Great reporting. We'll
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see again next hour when we talk about the number
of supercommuters.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
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