What’s next for Iran and how will the decisive military actions there impact Russia to seek peace? We will ask Lieutenant Colonel James Carafano.
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If you're just waking up. Aron says it's open to
nuke talks if the US rules out further attacks. Apparently
(01:23):
the airstrikes for more effective than the Left would lead on.
The Senate continues their vote rama today, Will we get
a vote today? Will we get a vote before the
fourth of July. Elon Musk says, you pass that big,
beautiful bill, and I'm starting a new party. They could
divide the Republicans' chances in the midterms and beyond. And
(01:44):
the man charged with killing four Idaho students in November
of twenty two is cop to plea. He will avoid
a trial, he will avoid the death penalty, and he
will get life in prison and forfeit any ability to appeal.
And that Idaho shoe we learned more about turned out
to be a twenty year olds Wes Rowli. He was
(02:07):
living in his vehicle. According to his grandfather, always wanted
to be a firefighter and was disgruntled when he was
apparently rejected because of his height, and therefore this was
a personal motive. I noticed one liberal outlet talked about
as a gun owner he had Nazi tendencies. Apparently everybody
that owns a gun is now a Nazi. We also
(02:30):
had one other story today that I thought was very
interesting that we haven't brought up yet, and that is
both George W. Bush and Barack Obama speaking out against
Donald Trump. In fact, Obama calls Trump's USAID closure a
travesty and warns of an extra fourteen million deaths by
(02:51):
twenty thirty, and Red and I were talking about this.
You remember how they played the game in COVID, Right,
every day death was tracked as a COVID death. Now,
you may have lived a seventy eight year life of
havoc on your body. So even though you drank your
(03:11):
liver into failure or you ate your heart into blockage
when you finally died, if you tested positive for COVID,
your cause of death was COVID, when in fact your
cause of death was a life and b something else
completely specific. So there's a one hundred percent mortality. Right,
are the left going to start tracking every death and
(03:34):
applying it to USAID cancelation? Well, from the Great Obama,
Saiah out of the abundance of the heart he speaks,
and that appears to be the direction they're heading it.
George W. Bush and Barack Obama speaking out against USAID.
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One other big story today. Everybody's kind of finally pouring
through some of this data from Gallup on just how
divided we are as a nation and politically divided. And
what you find is if you ask Americans, hey, you
proud to be an American? Well, if it's a Republican,
ninety three percent, or proud to be an American, if
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you get a Democrat on the phone, it's down to
thirty six percent. So somewhere along the line whether you're
proud or not of American is whether or not your
party's in control. But really, if you look, it goes
beyond that. It really is Trump derangement syndrome. These new
lows for the Democrats come both at the end of
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the first term. It's saying your phone is busy by
the way from Carafano. Interesting, Okay, so do you want
to dial him. I've been trying to die. I can't
get a call to go through to him. It sounds
like your phone is shot. Yeah, I'm trying to taking
as well. I'm letting him know to go ahead and
(05:01):
call in. I have that phone line empty. Now, well
he's calling me instead, Oh wow, okay, yeah, you might
want to effort differently. I'm trying instead of having this conversation.
I thought the most impressive thing about that whole study
was how no matter who's President Barack Obama, Joe Biden,
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W Bush, or Donald Trump, the pride in America stays
the same. For Republicans, perhaps they're more focused on the
Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, are intent not happenstance or power,
whereas the Democrats varies by who's in power, and perhaps
that they're getting so far left that they no longer
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are in line with America's intent and therefore never happy.
It also shows what the matrix looks like on paper.
It also shows what could eventually be grounds for a
civil war. It's a very trouble picture about pride in America,
all right, Um, loser of the days got to be
(06:08):
John Cusack, the far left actor, says Iran should get
nukes in order to protect the Middle East from the
United States and Israel. At least he says it. There's
a guy who is a leading candidate for mayor in
New York City probably feels exactly the same way, but
is clever enough not to say it. There's many in
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the media that probably feel the same way, but are
clever enough not to mention it. What is the endgame
and what is next for Iran ladies and gentlemen. He's
finally here. I apologize, Lieutenant Colonel all rise, the colonel
is here. What's next? In Iran? We get this news.
Iran says it's open to nuke talks if the US
rules out any further attacks. They're either stalling to rebuild
(06:53):
and play that same old game, or these air strikes
are more effective than the left would have us believe.
Which is it?
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Well, I think the the evidence that we that we.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Publicly have available.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Leads us to believe.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
That uranium nuclear program is pretty severely damaged. And remember
it's not You can't go to Walmart, you know, and
just rebuild all this stuff so that they've either got
to smuggle you get.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Some duct tape, some tarp, Yeah, some uranium. Where do
you come up with these lates?
Speaker 3 (07:31):
What's on Aisle three?
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Yes, it's gonna take them.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Awhile here's Centric three, right, right next to the refrigerators.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Yeah, lieutenant colonel, we know they all left on a
truck prior to those bunker busters.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Yeah, you know, it's it's very difficult to move that material.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
It's and it's very very dangerous. The whole place is
a mess, probably highly contaminated. And remember it's not just
one place.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
They hit the entire uh supply chain, everything from the
storing and enriching the uranium up to building the missiles,
uh and killing you know, key scientists.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
So I was just gonna I was just gonna say,
to paint another picture. Let's get our top commanders in
a room. Let's try to figure out what we're gonna
do next. Now, Oh, they're all dead. Let's get our
scientists in here.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
How are we going to.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Rebuild all these Yeah, they're all dead.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
And remember it's bigger, it's it's bigger than just that.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Right, So the nuclear program was set back, but the
circuits are.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
All on their on their butt. The missiles are all depleted.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Uh, the Russians and the Chinese have have abandoned them.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
They're they've got the problem the export.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
In the oil, not just the sanctions, but but some
of the infrastructure has been destroyed, so they got nothing.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
So I don't Now you're asking me, are they playing
for time?
Speaker 2 (09:02):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
I mean, my here's my guess, right, and it's totally
a guess because I'm not there.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
They did the predictable thing, which is.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
You know, they fired some missiles.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
They told the gunfire of the missiles, the missiles got
shot down. Then they then they proclaimed that they have
punished the Americans and humiliated them, and they and they've
learned their lesson, and so that is you know, in
this part of the world honors power, so you can't
be perceived to be weak.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
You have to do something to show that you're still strong.
We all know it's a fake. Even everybody in Iran
knows it's a fake. It's like a kaboogie dance in Japan.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
But the eye toola is old, the leadership is decimated.
I don't even know if they know what the strategy
is next.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
So they don't know, and I fact, I think that's right.
And preservation of the regime is always their top top
priority and if they're capitulating into direction is to try
to preserve the regime, right.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Right, So so they've got to assess, how do we
what's the state of the leadership? Do they even know
the extent of the damage to everything? How how much
control do they.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Have over their people? How's their economy going to survive?
So that might take more than in an afternoon to
work their way through.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
And so we have seen, you know, a whole blistering
thing of statements from well, the United States, you know,
the United States should pay us, you know, reparations for
destroying our infrastructure. You know, maybe we'll have nuclear talks.
Who knows, but I think I think right now, you know.
And it is very typical of this regime when it's
deeply threatened, it's like a turtle. It pulls back into
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the shell and it waits till the danger passes.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Tafano joining us in our weekly visit. All right, So
that's from their perspective. The perspective for the world might be, well, one,
you're disarmed. Two you're isolated. And that's a huge topic.
We could probably discuss how the president has masterfully isolated
them with the world. I get a sneaking suspicion the
endgame to this, from the world's perspective is the Abraham Accords.
(11:16):
What do you think, Well, you are a good student.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Absolutely. I was just talking about.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
This yesterday with some Indians from India. I think that
the next step for the US is raised ahead as
quickly as possible with the Abraham Remember.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
What a strategist does. When you don't know what your
enemy is going to do, you.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Try to pick a strategy that makes that knowledge irrelevant.
In other words, if you can do something that's useful
no matter what the other guy does, that's the smart
thing to do. So to create the condition, regardless of
the future around collapses or it's nice, they go back
to being the mean guys they were before. What's the
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one thing that, regardless of what happens in Iran, is
going to put the region and US interest in the
region in a better shape. And this is this idea
of the Abraham Accords, the not just the normalization of
relationships between I got one for you on this one,
between Israel and the Arab States, but also in economic, political,
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military cooperation. So what's the next step the next must
do thing, absolutely must do things.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
You've got to kick all the.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Chinese out of the Port of Haifa in Israel because
you cannot have successful, Abraham hoarz Imaq, which is the
India of at least economic corridor. You cannot have an
iMac without the without a major, a major megahub in
India and the port of Haifa, and you cannot have
(12:57):
a link between those two unless you kick all the
Chinese out of the porten hipha Well, they're not.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Going to want to go, so that could bring other
things in play. Taiwan. Yeah, pack their bags.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
I mean, you know therese I mean this you know
is the Israeli is going to kick them out.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
And they should. This is the time to do this.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Israel needs to make a decision that who it's key
economic partners and uh that on that India is it's
key economic partner.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Final minute, that final minute with Lieutenant Colonel James Carafano,
and I wanted to ask this just kind of broadly
in general and let you just take it from there.
But I mean, obviously what's next for Iran is regime preservation.
I don't even think they can assess that because of
how many are dead and they don't know the damage yet.
(13:51):
I think the the end play on this is they're disarmed.
That's a reality. They're isolated, that's a reality. There will
to talk now, that's a reality. But I think the
Abraham Accord is the ultimate solution to protect this from
happening again. How much are you impressed with? You know,
I go back to when the President visited Saudi Arabia,
(14:13):
when he visited Cutter It just you know, and that
parade welcome. How much of this has been orchestrated in
the Arab world prior to the air strikes and prior
to the talks of the Abraham Accord to make you
feel like this is already a done deal and who
did all this pre legwork.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Well, I think it's a bit much to say, well,
this is the master plan, and that's not necessarily how
Trump operates. He has a vision of where he wants
to go, He does things to get the everything moving,
and then you know, he figures out, okay, what are
(14:53):
the smart plays from here? So it's not at hoc,
it's not improvisational.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
It's it is like a chess game.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
You know, in a chess game, you don't plan, you know,
fifty moves ahead because the enemy gets a vote, right,
but you plot out a strategy on the way forward
and the enemy does something and they say, Okay, how
can I keep moving towards my goal having seen what
this guy just did. So definitely the trip to Saudi Arabia,
(15:23):
the guitar. And this is the other thing is remember
remember the keywords about the Middle East.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
Honor is power.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
So who are the honorable people that are respected and
you want to be their friend? And right now it
is Israel in the United States.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
And so the question is is how do you build
on that?
Speaker 3 (15:47):
That's how that's how tribes are built and how empires
are built in the region. You know, not that we're
building an empire, but right now US is really stock
is like Navidia and pollunteer on.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
The stock market right right. And so the questions is, well,
how do you leverage that?
Speaker 2 (16:03):
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Aaran is open to nuke talk. Simph, the US would
just please stop attacking us? Said it? Bodorama continues, Elon
Musk threatens another party if they passed the big beautiful bill.
(17:06):
And what would happen if a child's scary drawings. I
don't know anybody else, but I used to draw like
basketball players on my books. But if you did scary
drawings and stuff, what would happen if they all came
to life? We're all going to find out in the
movie called Sketch, And what a thrill it is to talk.
I'm trying to figure out why a contemporary Christian artist
that I used to play thirty five forty years ago
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is responsible for a great movie. We'll find out. Steve,
so great to meet you, oh likewise, all right, well,
I got to tell you first and foremost why I'm
thrilled to talk to you. So you know, and I've
done this with a lot of other artists, and I
think Rich Mullins would probably and it's been documented in videos,
would say, you know, Christian music was entertainment and if
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you really want to be discipled, go to church. Well.
The truth of the matter is there's a group of
individuals in the late seventies through the eighties that really
did disciple. A lot of us lived extraordinary lives, wrote
extraordinary songs after being in God's presence, and you made
it very easy for a lot of us to avoid
secular music with a bad message, to have just as
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good music, if not better, music with an eternal message.
And for that I always start with thank you and
thank you for the role you played in that.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
Steve, that's very time, Michael, thank you. I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Now now comes now comes the fun part. So if
if Petra was our Sticks, res Band was our led Zeppelin,
DeGarmo and Key was our Doobie Brothers, Phil Kagi was
definitely our Paul McCartney and Billy Crockett was definitely our
Cat Stevens. What did that make you our David, our
David Bowie.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
Well, I would I would certainly take that. I'm probably
not worth it, worthy of that, but I wouldn't I
wouldn't turn it down.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
I didn't even know you got into films. It's such
a great right music career. When did that all start?
And you live in Nashville and we haven't met yet.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
We got to take care of that, that's right, yes,
Darvin and Nashville. Oh, about thirty five years. I moved
here to start a band with some like minded friends,
just a rock band that we hope would get signed
to a mainstream label. So the band was Stagall Gavara
and we got signed to MCA rather quickly, and then
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as unsuccessful as we were, we were more successful than
all the other unsuccessful rock bands. So they want us
to do a second album and we didn't want to
do it. So we had a showdown for about a year,
and then finally we got out of our contract. But
then the band broke up. So that's what brought me
to Nashville.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
And then you get into making films and you and
Steth come up with this new new one sketch but
let's talk about the road disketch.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
Yes. So I got into filmmaking early two thousands, and
it's something I'd studied in college and it always wanted
to do, but I thought it probably better to be
a filmmaker in my fifties and a have a band
in my twenties and the reverse. And so I had
done you know, music videos and some documents and things
like that. But then I got into filmmaking seriously and
(20:03):
made a couple of movies. The first one was called
The Second Chance with Michael W. Smith that was in
two thousand and six, and then the next one was
Blue Like Jazz, based on Don Miller's best selling memoir
Those twenty twelve. But one of the concerts between those
two movies is I had a young friend, Seth Worley,
who did second unit on both those movies, and he
(20:26):
was just a really impressive filmmaker, and so we started
collaborating on other things. We did some short films together,
and he even had me play a rest and spy
in one of his films, and we collaborated on a
couple of Kickstarter videos and some music videos and just
stayed close. Anyway, he had a script that he was
(20:49):
starting to work on and he sent me the first
half of it. Oh man, this is probably eight years
ago before he moved to LA and then he had
an agent and then the script. He finished the script,
and then the script that picked up by some big
production companies out in LA and it looked like the
movie was going to get made with him directing it,
and just it never came together. So moved his family
(21:13):
back to Nashville and I got with him a couple
of little oh man, this would have been a few
years back, and asked him what was going on with
this movie project Sketch and he said it's dead and
I was like, oh man, no, no, no, that's stupid
of a movie. We got a fair way to make this,
so long story short, I was able to find some
money from local people to back the project, and we're
(21:36):
able to shoot the movie and it took a while
to finish it because it's very heavy and visual effects. Yes,
it has written and directed by Seth and starts Tony Hale,
who is a delightful person and just an awesome actor.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
I am so glad you brought him up because he
is a scene stealer in every season of Veep. He
played the assistant to the VP. I mean, Tony is
just brilliant. It's very very funny, rested development. VP does
a terrific job in this. The premise is pretty simple
and it won't ruin anything to anybody, but imagine when
you're a kid. I mean I had kids in school
(22:13):
that would draw warplanes on their folders and they were all,
you know, shooting people. I used to draw NBA basket.
I used to draw Doctor J. Julius Irving over and
over again on all my folders. Well, this young lady
has a great imagination and throughout her childhood. And I
can relate to this because my daughter Anna was this
way and she's always doing sketches and drawings. Well, her
(22:36):
sketch book falls into the pond, and imagine every weird
thing she ever sketched comes to life. I mean, such
a brilliant, simple premise. Yes, yes, we find out.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
That she has lost her mother six months earlier, and
so she's having a really hard time. And so her sketches,
even whether her childlife, they're still kind of comically horrific.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
And uh so when they.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
Come to life, you know bad things are going to happen.
But it's all in good fun. And you know, we
made a movie. I'm really proud of it. It's for
the whole family, and it's I just can't wait for
people to see it.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
I was just gonna say, there's been we're talking with
Steve Steve Taylor about the new movie Sketch comes to
theaters on August sixth. I followed the Irving Brothers and
I've watched that progression from I can only imagine to
Jesus Revolution to what they're working on now and the
House of David, which is just mind blowing, maybe the
best thing I've ever seen in my life. But you
(23:39):
guys come out of nowhere. I mean, when when you
think of this journey, you know, all things possible come on, Well, Hollywood,
it goes nowhere. You bump back into him, what it's dead,
boom back to life. But what I was thinking of
the Irving Brothers because I mean, this is this is
really really good. I mean, this isn't like a cheesy
(23:59):
Christian movie or a cheesy you know, self funded. I mean,
and of course Tony's terrific, but these kids are spectacular.
I mean's I would say the same thing about how
said David too. I love that there's no stars in that.
I think that's what makes it better than Jesus and Nazareth.
That these people are unknown, and I can really think
that's David, and I can really think that's Saul, and
(24:21):
I can really think that Samuel. I think that helps it.
But I mean I did know Tony obviously upon first glance,
but the rest of the cast just great actors, bring
in a great story to life without the distraction of
any other baggage, and it's such high quality. Steve, I mean,
you and Seth are to be commended. This is just
a This is like Jumanji on steroids.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
Yes, yeah, Seth. Well, Seth, he's the best filmmaker I've
ever met. He's because he can do it all. He's
a great writer, he's a fantastic director, and he's great
with visual effects. He's he's really good with coming up
with marketing materials. He's either kind of an all around filmmaker.
And I got to say, speaking of John Irwin, it
was actually John who put up the money to make it,
(25:08):
so he just fell in love with the scripts. I
was talking to him about another project we were working
on together, and he said what else are you working on?
I said, well, I've got this movie I'm trying to
get funded. Can I see the scripts? And he got
back to me like two days later said, man, I
got to I'll find the money for this. So, you know,
hats off to John. He was an executive producer on
(25:28):
the movie, and it would have been a much lower funded.
It was not an expensive movie at all, but it
would have been even had even less money if John
hadn't stepped in.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
It really is. It's great coming to theaters August sixth.
Sketch s K E. T. H. Just google it and
watch the trailer and you'll see what I mean. You
already love Tony Hale. You're gonna love him in this role.
You're gonna love this entire cast. And this is just
great storytelling. I think of the Irwin Brothers a lot
because I remember when I I'm right out of the Jesus Movement.
(26:02):
I'm one of like the tail end of the Jesus movements.
So somebody impacted by the Jesus Movement happened to be
my football coach, happened to do a Bible study at school.
I happened to walk into that Bible study because it
was cold, and that changed the trajectory of my eternity,
let alone my life. And I'll never forget. I went
to church. It was the first time I was in
any church other than the Catholic Church. And it was
a movie night and they just showed the worst made
(26:25):
movie about the Rapture. I mean, it was just awful
and cheesy, and I'm not sure any of the other
Christian movie attempts were much better until they came along.
And my kids will tell you that I can only
imagine as one of the most influential movies of their life,
kind of like Wizard of Oz was for me, which
is strange to say. I thought Jesus Revolution was spectacular.
(26:46):
I think kids are gonna love and the parents who
have to watch it with them are gonna love sketch,
but I really love how we're doing. It's kind of
like that analogy to come full circle with the interview Steep,
I didn't miss a thing not listening to secular music
all growing up, because I had Petrick, because I had Resband,
because I had You, because I had really cool, because
I had Billy Crockett, I had to gard one key.
(27:08):
I didn't need them we were better. And now that's
the same with storytelling through movies, as Hollywood ploys, here
comes our finest hour, and now you're a part of that.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
By the way, speaking of Jesus Revolution, my wife and
I loved watching it because my wife actually became a
Christian at Chuck Smith's Church and got baptized in that
place where the all of the scene takes place, Pirate's Cove.
So that was a special movie for her to watch.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Well, you've lived it. I lived the tail end of it.
She lived it. Literally. Are we on the brink of
something similar? Where there I can see the political and
cultural revolution. I don't quite see the spiritual revival, but
I think it's coming, and we're starting to see the
glimpses of it with the gen Zers in some of
the research. They're returning to family and they're returning to faith.
(27:58):
History has a way of usually in fifty years, repeating itself.
It may be right before our eyes.
Speaker 5 (28:04):
Well we live in hope, Yes we do, all right.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
The movie is called sketch. You know what. You're the
MVP because you never gave up, and when it was dead,
you made it happen. Of course, Seth is also an
MVP because he wrote it, he directed it, and let
him know. I think he did a spectacular job. Sketch
coming to theaters August sixth. Everybody go see it. It's
really terrific stuff. And it's so great to finally meet
you and thank you for all you did in the
(28:31):
music world when we were young and we really needed
to hear the words and the music.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
Thank you, Michael.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
This is your morning show with Michael del Chno. This
is your morning show. I'm Michael del jonohun or to
serve you along with Jeffrey Lyons and read and say
hello to my little friend Rorio O'Neil. He resides not
far from Alligator Alcatraz. Were the President's on his way today. Yeah,
he left the.
Speaker 6 (28:55):
White House a short time ago, coming to see this
migrant detention facility that's being put up in the middle
of nowhere on a rarely used airstrip right in the
heart of the Florida Everglades. It's gonna hose between one
and five thousand people as this becomes operational. The grand opening,
I guess you'd call it, is happening today with the
(29:16):
President getting a tour of it and then taking part
in a round table discussion. He'll be on the ground
there for about two hours before getting back to DC
to follow up on the Big Beautiful Bill.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
And just like the pride in American poll, I suspect
the view of Alligator Alcatraz is as bipolar as the
divided nation. Right, well, just a lot.
Speaker 6 (29:39):
I still have an awful lot of questions about just
the facilities and how it's going to work, and if
a hurricane comes, and is it air conditioned, and who's
working there, and what if there's a fight, and you know,
all those kinds of things. Is it just men, is
it just criminals? A lot of unknowns to this. And look, yes,
there are protesters who say this is an environmental nightmare
(30:00):
and it violates the sovereign lands of uh, the mikasuki
and the seminoles.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
So there's that aspect to it as well. But this
is a.
Speaker 6 (30:07):
Remote spot, one rode in, one rode out. Uh we
are you know, I think it's also the flip nature
that the well, the pythons and gators will get them,
or you know, there's only one way out that's by plane.
You know, this is serious stuff and we have a
lot of questions about it, and whose idea was this?
The Attorney general from Florida, James Meyer. He was appointed
(30:31):
attorney general a few months ago to replace Ashley Moody,
who was elevated to the US Senate by the governor
after Marco Rubio became Secretary of State. Othheimer was the
former chief of staff of the governor. All Right, in
other news, Coburger critic or in critics in critics term
an unelected bureaucrat, an unelected bureaucrat, Uh, Coburger cops to plate.
(30:56):
I guess the two ways everybody's looking at this is uh,
is he a cow to not face the death sentence?
Or was prosecution the coward for not seeking the ultimate
punishment for what would be the ultimate grisly crime. And
then there are other realities that you pointed out. In
the long run, family doesn't have to relive very troubling testimony,
(31:17):
there's no risk of him getting off right. And I
guess the juxtaposition to the Menendez brothers, you know, is
this a step towards this guy, you know, maybe serving
a few years and then and getting off on a technicality.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
So where does all that stand? Coberger gets a plead,
So all the build up never happens. You'll face life
in prison only the right.
Speaker 6 (31:39):
Life in prison without a chance of parole is the
likely sentence here. You know, the families also want to
know why, they never really have understood why this attack happened,
why these four were targeted while they slept, you know,
And maybe we'll hear from that. It is elocution when
that happens, and the sentencing hearing certainly will be emotional.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
They'll they'll have that the families will have that opportunity.
Speaker 6 (32:00):
We know that some at least one family is incredibly
upset by this. Haven't heard the opinions of the others
who may have supported this kind of a plea deal
to avoid going through the trial and the gruesome nature
of certainly what would have unfolded publicly.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
I don't know if the family will say it this way,
but I think what they're feeling is, no matter what
you think of the death penalty, if you're in a
state that has the death penalty, which is the ultimate
punishment or the ultimate justice for the victims and the
victim family members, it must be pursued pursued in a
(32:37):
crime this heinous. I think that's what they're feeling. I
think time might make them feel differently about some of
the things that you're saying, the things that they won't
have to relive. But there are some Look, but you
would have never gotten those answers anyway, probably as far
as you know, the peace of knowing, why'd you pick
my daughter? I don't think we would have ever gotten
(32:58):
an honest answer to that. This man's clearly sick, right Well.
Speaker 6 (33:02):
I think it also for the families is they're afraid
that that means it's over. Yeah, that then you know
their loved one sort of will start to fade away.
At least this by having a trial would have kept
them alive unquote in that sense, to at least be
talking about their lives again. Yeah, and there's a lot
we can go back and forth on this for hours.
(33:22):
That the physical or rather the actual expense of a trial,
but that would have been like and all the other.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Emotional aspects as well.
Speaker 6 (33:29):
It's a complicated kind of a thing, and I think
there's no perfect answer.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Very insightful observation you just made about closure. And finally,
just an odd finish to the Idaho arsonist slash attacker
of firefighters turns out maybe he wanted to be one
but was too short. But he was also homeless and troubled.
And we find out it's a twenty year old West.
Speaker 6 (33:55):
Raleigh, right, a transient living out of a van that
the fire photos had told them to move.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (34:02):
Again, we're still trying to piece together that timeline, but
the whole thing just seemed so tragic and the loss
of the firefighters and the waste of this young man's life.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
And that's your morning news briefing with Rory O'Neil. Thank you, Roy,
great reporting. As always, we're all in this together. This
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and your talkbacks, and that keeps the show focused on you.
If you're just waking up. Aron says it's open to
nuke talks if the US rules out further attacks. Apparently
(01:23):
the airstrikes for more effective than the Left would lead on.
The Senate continues their vote rama today, Will we get
a vote today? Will we get a vote before the
fourth of July. Elon Musk says, you pass that big,
beautiful bill, and I'm starting a new party. They could
divide the Republicans' chances in the midterms and beyond. And
(01:44):
the man charged with killing four Idaho students in November
of twenty two is cop to plea. He will avoid
a trial, he will avoid the death penalty, and he
will get life in prison and forfeit any ability to appeal.
And that Idaho shoe we learned more about turned out
to be a twenty year olds Wes Rowli. He was
(02:07):
living in his vehicle. According to his grandfather, always wanted
to be a firefighter and was disgruntled when he was
apparently rejected because of his height, and therefore this was
a personal motive. I noticed one liberal outlet talked about
as a gun owner he had Nazi tendencies. Apparently everybody
that owns a gun is now a Nazi. We also
(02:30):
had one other story today that I thought was very
interesting that we haven't brought up yet, and that is
both George W. Bush and Barack Obama speaking out against
Donald Trump. In fact, Obama calls Trump's USAID closure a
travesty and warns of an extra fourteen million deaths by
(02:51):
twenty thirty, and Red and I were talking about this.
You remember how they played the game in COVID, Right,
every day death was tracked as a COVID death. Now,
you may have lived a seventy eight year life of
havoc on your body. So even though you drank your
(03:11):
liver into failure or you ate your heart into blockage
when you finally died, if you tested positive for COVID,
your cause of death was COVID, when in fact your
cause of death was a life and b something else
completely specific. So there's a one hundred percent mortality. Right,
are the left going to start tracking every death and
(03:34):
applying it to USAID cancelation? Well, from the Great Obama,
Saiah out of the abundance of the heart he speaks,
and that appears to be the direction they're heading it.
George W. Bush and Barack Obama speaking out against USAID.
(03:54):
One other big story today. Everybody's kind of finally pouring
through some of this data from Gallup on just how
divided we are as a nation and politically divided. And
what you find is if you ask Americans, hey, you
proud to be an American? Well, if it's a Republican,
ninety three percent, or proud to be an American, if
(04:16):
you get a Democrat on the phone, it's down to
thirty six percent. So somewhere along the line whether you're
proud or not of American is whether or not your
party's in control. But really, if you look, it goes
beyond that. It really is Trump derangement syndrome. These new
lows for the Democrats come both at the end of
(04:40):
the first term. It's saying your phone is busy by
the way from Carafano. Interesting, Okay, so do you want
to dial him. I've been trying to die. I can't
get a call to go through to him. It sounds
like your phone is shot. Yeah, I'm trying to taking
as well. I'm letting him know to go ahead and
(05:01):
call in. I have that phone line empty. Now, well
he's calling me instead, Oh wow, okay, yeah, you might
want to effort differently. I'm trying instead of having this conversation.
I thought the most impressive thing about that whole study
was how no matter who's President Barack Obama, Joe Biden,
(05:23):
W Bush, or Donald Trump, the pride in America stays
the same. For Republicans, perhaps they're more focused on the
Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, are intent not happenstance or power,
whereas the Democrats varies by who's in power, and perhaps
that they're getting so far left that they no longer
(05:45):
are in line with America's intent and therefore never happy.
It also shows what the matrix looks like on paper.
It also shows what could eventually be grounds for a
civil war. It's a very trouble picture about pride in America,
all right, Um, loser of the days got to be
(06:08):
John Cusack, the far left actor, says Iran should get
nukes in order to protect the Middle East from the
United States and Israel. At least he says it. There's
a guy who is a leading candidate for mayor in
New York City probably feels exactly the same way, but
is clever enough not to say it. There's many in
(06:31):
the media that probably feel the same way, but are
clever enough not to mention it. What is the endgame
and what is next for Iran ladies and gentlemen. He's
finally here. I apologize, Lieutenant Colonel all rise, the colonel
is here. What's next? In Iran? We get this news.
Iran says it's open to nuke talks if the US
rules out any further attacks. They're either stalling to rebuild
(06:53):
and play that same old game, or these air strikes
are more effective than the left would have us believe.
Which is it?
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Well, I think the the evidence that we that we.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Publicly have available.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Leads us to believe.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
That uranium nuclear program is pretty severely damaged. And remember
it's not You can't go to Walmart, you know, and
just rebuild all this stuff so that they've either got
to smuggle you get.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Some duct tape, some tarp, Yeah, some uranium. Where do
you come up with these lates?
Speaker 3 (07:31):
What's on Aisle three?
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Yes, it's gonna take them.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Awhile here's Centric three, right, right next to the refrigerators.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Yeah, lieutenant colonel, we know they all left on a
truck prior to those bunker busters.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Yeah, you know, it's it's very difficult to move that material.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
It's and it's very very dangerous. The whole place is
a mess, probably highly contaminated. And remember it's not just
one place.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
They hit the entire uh supply chain, everything from the
storing and enriching the uranium up to building the missiles,
uh and killing you know, key scientists.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
So I was just gonna I was just gonna say,
to paint another picture. Let's get our top commanders in
a room. Let's try to figure out what we're gonna
do next. Now, Oh, they're all dead. Let's get our
scientists in here.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
How are we going to.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Rebuild all these Yeah, they're all dead.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
And remember it's bigger, it's it's bigger than just that.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Right, So the nuclear program was set back, but the
circuits are.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
All on their on their butt. The missiles are all depleted.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Uh, the Russians and the Chinese have have abandoned them.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
They're they've got the problem the export.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
In the oil, not just the sanctions, but but some
of the infrastructure has been destroyed, so they got nothing.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
So I don't Now you're asking me, are they playing
for time?
Speaker 2 (09:02):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
I mean, my here's my guess, right, and it's totally
a guess because I'm not there.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
They did the predictable thing, which is.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
You know, they fired some missiles.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
They told the gunfire of the missiles, the missiles got
shot down. Then they then they proclaimed that they have
punished the Americans and humiliated them, and they and they've
learned their lesson, and so that is you know, in
this part of the world honors power, so you can't
be perceived to be weak.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
You have to do something to show that you're still strong.
We all know it's a fake. Even everybody in Iran
knows it's a fake. It's like a kaboogie dance in Japan.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
But the eye toola is old, the leadership is decimated.
I don't even know if they know what the strategy
is next.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
So they don't know, and I fact, I think that's right.
And preservation of the regime is always their top top
priority and if they're capitulating into direction is to try
to preserve the regime, right.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Right, So so they've got to assess, how do we
what's the state of the leadership? Do they even know
the extent of the damage to everything? How how much
control do they.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Have over their people? How's their economy going to survive?
So that might take more than in an afternoon to
work their way through.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
And so we have seen, you know, a whole blistering
thing of statements from well, the United States, you know,
the United States should pay us, you know, reparations for
destroying our infrastructure. You know, maybe we'll have nuclear talks.
Who knows, but I think I think right now, you know.
And it is very typical of this regime when it's
deeply threatened, it's like a turtle. It pulls back into
(10:49):
the shell and it waits till the danger passes.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Tafano joining us in our weekly visit. All right, So
that's from their perspective. The perspective for the world might be, well, one,
you're disarmed. Two you're isolated. And that's a huge topic.
We could probably discuss how the president has masterfully isolated
them with the world. I get a sneaking suspicion the
endgame to this, from the world's perspective is the Abraham Accords.
(11:16):
What do you think, Well, you are a good student.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Absolutely. I was just talking about.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
This yesterday with some Indians from India. I think that
the next step for the US is raised ahead as
quickly as possible with the Abraham Remember.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
What a strategist does. When you don't know what your
enemy is going to do, you.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Try to pick a strategy that makes that knowledge irrelevant.
In other words, if you can do something that's useful
no matter what the other guy does, that's the smart
thing to do. So to create the condition, regardless of
the future around collapses or it's nice, they go back
to being the mean guys they were before. What's the
(12:02):
one thing that, regardless of what happens in Iran, is
going to put the region and US interest in the
region in a better shape. And this is this idea
of the Abraham Accords, the not just the normalization of
relationships between I got one for you on this one,
between Israel and the Arab States, but also in economic, political,
(12:24):
military cooperation. So what's the next step the next must
do thing, absolutely must do things.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
You've got to kick all the.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Chinese out of the Port of Haifa in Israel because
you cannot have successful, Abraham hoarz Imaq, which is the
India of at least economic corridor. You cannot have an
iMac without the without a major, a major megahub in
India and the port of Haifa, and you cannot have
(12:57):
a link between those two unless you kick all the
Chinese out of the porten hipha Well, they're not.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Going to want to go, so that could bring other
things in play. Taiwan. Yeah, pack their bags.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
I mean, you know therese I mean this you know
is the Israeli is going to kick them out.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
And they should. This is the time to do this.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Israel needs to make a decision that who it's key
economic partners and uh that on that India is it's
key economic partner.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Final minute, that final minute with Lieutenant Colonel James Carafano,
and I wanted to ask this just kind of broadly
in general and let you just take it from there.
But I mean, obviously what's next for Iran is regime preservation.
I don't even think they can assess that because of
how many are dead and they don't know the damage yet.
(13:51):
I think the the end play on this is they're disarmed.
That's a reality. They're isolated, that's a reality. There will
to talk now, that's a reality. But I think the
Abraham Accord is the ultimate solution to protect this from
happening again. How much are you impressed with? You know,
I go back to when the President visited Saudi Arabia,
(14:13):
when he visited Cutter It just you know, and that
parade welcome. How much of this has been orchestrated in
the Arab world prior to the air strikes and prior
to the talks of the Abraham Accord to make you
feel like this is already a done deal and who
did all this pre legwork.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Well, I think it's a bit much to say, well,
this is the master plan, and that's not necessarily how
Trump operates. He has a vision of where he wants
to go, He does things to get the everything moving,
and then you know, he figures out, okay, what are
(14:53):
the smart plays from here? So it's not at hoc,
it's not improvisational.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
It's it is like a chess game.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
You know, in a chess game, you don't plan, you know,
fifty moves ahead because the enemy gets a vote, right,
but you plot out a strategy on the way forward
and the enemy does something and they say, Okay, how
can I keep moving towards my goal having seen what
this guy just did. So definitely the trip to Saudi Arabia,
(15:23):
the guitar. And this is the other thing is remember
remember the keywords about the Middle East.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
Honor is power.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
So who are the honorable people that are respected and
you want to be their friend? And right now it
is Israel in the United States.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
And so the question is is how do you build
on that?
Speaker 3 (15:47):
That's how that's how tribes are built and how empires
are built in the region. You know, not that we're
building an empire, but right now US is really stock
is like Navidia and pollunteer on.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
The stock market right right. And so the questions is, well,
how do you leverage that?
Speaker 2 (16:03):
What a difference a year makes? Huh? Well, Denner, Colonel
James Carafound, you can read his great work is Collie's
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honor to have you weekly.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
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Aaran is open to nuke talk. Simph, the US would
just please stop attacking us? Said it? Bodorama continues, Elon
Musk threatens another party if they passed the big beautiful bill.
(17:06):
And what would happen if a child's scary drawings. I
don't know anybody else, but I used to draw like
basketball players on my books. But if you did scary
drawings and stuff, what would happen if they all came
to life? We're all going to find out in the
movie called Sketch, And what a thrill it is to talk.
I'm trying to figure out why a contemporary Christian artist
that I used to play thirty five forty years ago
(17:27):
is responsible for a great movie. We'll find out. Steve,
so great to meet you, oh likewise, all right, well,
I got to tell you first and foremost why I'm
thrilled to talk to you. So you know, and I've
done this with a lot of other artists, and I
think Rich Mullins would probably and it's been documented in videos,
would say, you know, Christian music was entertainment and if
(17:48):
you really want to be discipled, go to church. Well.
The truth of the matter is there's a group of
individuals in the late seventies through the eighties that really
did disciple. A lot of us lived extraordinary lives, wrote
extraordinary songs after being in God's presence, and you made
it very easy for a lot of us to avoid
secular music with a bad message, to have just as
(18:09):
good music, if not better, music with an eternal message.
And for that I always start with thank you and
thank you for the role you played in that.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
Steve, that's very time, Michael, thank you. I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Now now comes now comes the fun part. So if
if Petra was our Sticks, res Band was our led Zeppelin,
DeGarmo and Key was our Doobie Brothers, Phil Kagi was
definitely our Paul McCartney and Billy Crockett was definitely our
Cat Stevens. What did that make you our David, our
David Bowie.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
Well, I would I would certainly take that. I'm probably
not worth it, worthy of that, but I wouldn't I
wouldn't turn it down.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
I didn't even know you got into films. It's such
a great right music career. When did that all start?
And you live in Nashville and we haven't met yet.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
We got to take care of that, that's right, yes,
Darvin and Nashville. Oh, about thirty five years. I moved
here to start a band with some like minded friends,
just a rock band that we hope would get signed
to a mainstream label. So the band was Stagall Gavara
and we got signed to MCA rather quickly, and then
(19:16):
as unsuccessful as we were, we were more successful than
all the other unsuccessful rock bands. So they want us
to do a second album and we didn't want to
do it. So we had a showdown for about a year,
and then finally we got out of our contract. But
then the band broke up. So that's what brought me
to Nashville.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
And then you get into making films and you and
Steth come up with this new new one sketch but
let's talk about the road disketch.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
Yes. So I got into filmmaking early two thousands, and
it's something I'd studied in college and it always wanted
to do, but I thought it probably better to be
a filmmaker in my fifties and a have a band
in my twenties and the reverse. And so I had
done you know, music videos and some documents and things
like that. But then I got into filmmaking seriously and
(20:03):
made a couple of movies. The first one was called
The Second Chance with Michael W. Smith that was in
two thousand and six, and then the next one was
Blue Like Jazz, based on Don Miller's best selling memoir
Those twenty twelve. But one of the concerts between those
two movies is I had a young friend, Seth Worley,
who did second unit on both those movies, and he
(20:26):
was just a really impressive filmmaker, and so we started
collaborating on other things. We did some short films together,
and he even had me play a rest and spy
in one of his films, and we collaborated on a
couple of Kickstarter videos and some music videos and just
stayed close. Anyway, he had a script that he was
(20:49):
starting to work on and he sent me the first
half of it. Oh man, this is probably eight years
ago before he moved to LA and then he had
an agent and then the script. He finished the script,
and then the script that picked up by some big
production companies out in LA and it looked like the
movie was going to get made with him directing it,
and just it never came together. So moved his family
(21:13):
back to Nashville and I got with him a couple
of little oh man, this would have been a few
years back, and asked him what was going on with
this movie project Sketch and he said it's dead and
I was like, oh man, no, no, no, that's stupid
of a movie. We got a fair way to make this,
so long story short, I was able to find some
money from local people to back the project, and we're
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able to shoot the movie and it took a while
to finish it because it's very heavy and visual effects. Yes,
it has written and directed by Seth and starts Tony Hale,
who is a delightful person and just an awesome actor.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
I am so glad you brought him up because he
is a scene stealer in every season of Veep. He
played the assistant to the VP. I mean, Tony is
just brilliant. It's very very funny, rested development. VP does
a terrific job in this. The premise is pretty simple
and it won't ruin anything to anybody, but imagine when
you're a kid. I mean I had kids in school
(22:13):
that would draw warplanes on their folders and they were all,
you know, shooting people. I used to draw NBA basket.
I used to draw Doctor J. Julius Irving over and
over again on all my folders. Well, this young lady
has a great imagination and throughout her childhood. And I
can relate to this because my daughter Anna was this
way and she's always doing sketches and drawings. Well, her
(22:36):
sketch book falls into the pond, and imagine every weird
thing she ever sketched comes to life. I mean, such
a brilliant, simple premise. Yes, yes, we find out.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
That she has lost her mother six months earlier, and
so she's having a really hard time. And so her sketches,
even whether her childlife, they're still kind of comically horrific.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
And uh so when they.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
Come to life, you know bad things are going to happen.
But it's all in good fun. And you know, we
made a movie. I'm really proud of it. It's for
the whole family, and it's I just can't wait for
people to see it.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
I was just gonna say, there's been we're talking with
Steve Steve Taylor about the new movie Sketch comes to
theaters on August sixth. I followed the Irving Brothers and
I've watched that progression from I can only imagine to
Jesus Revolution to what they're working on now and the
House of David, which is just mind blowing, maybe the
best thing I've ever seen in my life. But you
(23:39):
guys come out of nowhere. I mean, when when you
think of this journey, you know, all things possible come on, Well, Hollywood,
it goes nowhere. You bump back into him, what it's dead,
boom back to life. But what I was thinking of
the Irving Brothers because I mean, this is this is
really really good. I mean, this isn't like a cheesy
(23:59):
Christian movie or a cheesy you know, self funded. I mean,
and of course Tony's terrific, but these kids are spectacular.
I mean's I would say the same thing about how
said David too. I love that there's no stars in that.
I think that's what makes it better than Jesus and Nazareth.
That these people are unknown, and I can really think
that's David, and I can really think that's Saul, and
(24:21):
I can really think that Samuel. I think that helps it.
But I mean I did know Tony obviously upon first glance,
but the rest of the cast just great actors, bring
in a great story to life without the distraction of
any other baggage, and it's such high quality. Steve, I mean,
you and Seth are to be commended. This is just
a This is like Jumanji on steroids.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
Yes, yeah, Seth. Well, Seth, he's the best filmmaker I've
ever met. He's because he can do it all. He's
a great writer, he's a fantastic director, and he's great
with visual effects. He's he's really good with coming up
with marketing materials. He's either kind of an all around filmmaker.
And I got to say, speaking of John Irwin, it
was actually John who put up the money to make it,
(25:08):
so he just fell in love with the scripts. I
was talking to him about another project we were working
on together, and he said what else are you working on?
I said, well, I've got this movie I'm trying to
get funded. Can I see the scripts? And he got
back to me like two days later said, man, I
got to I'll find the money for this. So, you know,
hats off to John. He was an executive producer on
(25:28):
the movie, and it would have been a much lower funded.
It was not an expensive movie at all, but it
would have been even had even less money if John
hadn't stepped in.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
It really is. It's great coming to theaters August sixth.
Sketch s K E. T. H. Just google it and
watch the trailer and you'll see what I mean. You
already love Tony Hale. You're gonna love him in this role.
You're gonna love this entire cast. And this is just
great storytelling. I think of the Irwin Brothers a lot
because I remember when I I'm right out of the Jesus Movement.
(26:02):
I'm one of like the tail end of the Jesus movements.
So somebody impacted by the Jesus Movement happened to be
my football coach, happened to do a Bible study at school.
I happened to walk into that Bible study because it
was cold, and that changed the trajectory of my eternity,
let alone my life. And I'll never forget. I went
to church. It was the first time I was in
any church other than the Catholic Church. And it was
a movie night and they just showed the worst made
(26:25):
movie about the Rapture. I mean, it was just awful
and cheesy, and I'm not sure any of the other
Christian movie attempts were much better until they came along.
And my kids will tell you that I can only
imagine as one of the most influential movies of their life,
kind of like Wizard of Oz was for me, which
is strange to say. I thought Jesus Revolution was spectacular.
(26:46):
I think kids are gonna love and the parents who
have to watch it with them are gonna love sketch,
but I really love how we're doing. It's kind of
like that analogy to come full circle with the interview Steep,
I didn't miss a thing not listening to secular music
all growing up, because I had Petrick, because I had Resband,
because I had You, because I had really cool, because
I had Billy Crockett, I had to gard one key.
(27:08):
I didn't need them we were better. And now that's
the same with storytelling through movies, as Hollywood ploys, here
comes our finest hour, and now you're a part of that.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
By the way, speaking of Jesus Revolution, my wife and
I loved watching it because my wife actually became a
Christian at Chuck Smith's Church and got baptized in that
place where the all of the scene takes place, Pirate's Cove.
So that was a special movie for her to watch.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Well, you've lived it. I lived the tail end of it.
She lived it. Literally. Are we on the brink of
something similar? Where there I can see the political and
cultural revolution. I don't quite see the spiritual revival, but
I think it's coming, and we're starting to see the
glimpses of it with the gen Zers in some of
the research. They're returning to family and they're returning to faith.
(27:58):
History has a way of usually in fifty years, repeating itself.
It may be right before our eyes.
Speaker 5 (28:04):
Well we live in hope, Yes we do, all right.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
The movie is called sketch. You know what. You're the
MVP because you never gave up, and when it was dead,
you made it happen. Of course, Seth is also an
MVP because he wrote it, he directed it, and let
him know. I think he did a spectacular job. Sketch
coming to theaters August sixth. Everybody go see it. It's
really terrific stuff. And it's so great to finally meet
you and thank you for all you did in the
(28:31):
music world when we were young and we really needed
to hear the words and the music.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
Thank you, Michael.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
This is your morning show with Michael del Chno. This
is your morning show. I'm Michael del jonohun or to
serve you along with Jeffrey Lyons and read and say
hello to my little friend Rorio O'Neil. He resides not
far from Alligator Alcatraz. Were the President's on his way today. Yeah,
he left the.
Speaker 6 (28:55):
White House a short time ago, coming to see this
migrant detention facility that's being put up in the middle
of nowhere on a rarely used airstrip right in the
heart of the Florida Everglades. It's gonna hose between one
and five thousand people as this becomes operational. The grand opening,
I guess you'd call it, is happening today with the
(29:16):
President getting a tour of it and then taking part
in a round table discussion. He'll be on the ground
there for about two hours before getting back to DC
to follow up on the Big Beautiful Bill.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
And just like the pride in American poll, I suspect
the view of Alligator Alcatraz is as bipolar as the
divided nation. Right, well, just a lot.
Speaker 6 (29:39):
I still have an awful lot of questions about just
the facilities and how it's going to work, and if
a hurricane comes, and is it air conditioned, and who's
working there, and what if there's a fight, and you know,
all those kinds of things. Is it just men, is
it just criminals? A lot of unknowns to this. And look, yes,
there are protesters who say this is an environmental nightmare
(30:00):
and it violates the sovereign lands of uh, the mikasuki
and the seminoles.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
So there's that aspect to it as well. But this
is a.
Speaker 6 (30:07):
Remote spot, one rode in, one rode out. Uh we
are you know, I think it's also the flip nature
that the well, the pythons and gators will get them,
or you know, there's only one way out that's by plane.
You know, this is serious stuff and we have a
lot of questions about it, and whose idea was this?
The Attorney general from Florida, James Meyer. He was appointed
(30:31):
attorney general a few months ago to replace Ashley Moody,
who was elevated to the US Senate by the governor
after Marco Rubio became Secretary of State. Othheimer was the
former chief of staff of the governor. All Right, in
other news, Coburger critic or in critics in critics term
an unelected bureaucrat, an unelected bureaucrat, Uh, Coburger cops to plate.
(30:56):
I guess the two ways everybody's looking at this is uh,
is he a cow to not face the death sentence?
Or was prosecution the coward for not seeking the ultimate
punishment for what would be the ultimate grisly crime. And
then there are other realities that you pointed out. In
the long run, family doesn't have to relive very troubling testimony,
(31:17):
there's no risk of him getting off right. And I
guess the juxtaposition to the Menendez brothers, you know, is
this a step towards this guy, you know, maybe serving
a few years and then and getting off on a technicality.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
So where does all that stand? Coberger gets a plead,
So all the build up never happens. You'll face life
in prison only the right.
Speaker 6 (31:39):
Life in prison without a chance of parole is the
likely sentence here. You know, the families also want to
know why, they never really have understood why this attack happened,
why these four were targeted while they slept, you know,
And maybe we'll hear from that. It is elocution when
that happens, and the sentencing hearing certainly will be emotional.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
They'll they'll have that the families will have that opportunity.
Speaker 6 (32:00):
We know that some at least one family is incredibly
upset by this. Haven't heard the opinions of the others
who may have supported this kind of a plea deal
to avoid going through the trial and the gruesome nature
of certainly what would have unfolded publicly.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
I don't know if the family will say it this way,
but I think what they're feeling is, no matter what
you think of the death penalty, if you're in a
state that has the death penalty, which is the ultimate
punishment or the ultimate justice for the victims and the
victim family members, it must be pursued pursued in a
(32:37):
crime this heinous. I think that's what they're feeling. I
think time might make them feel differently about some of
the things that you're saying, the things that they won't
have to relive. But there are some Look, but you
would have never gotten those answers anyway, probably as far
as you know, the peace of knowing, why'd you pick
my daughter? I don't think we would have ever gotten
(32:58):
an honest answer to that. This man's clearly sick, right Well.
Speaker 6 (33:02):
I think it also for the families is they're afraid
that that means it's over. Yeah, that then you know
their loved one sort of will start to fade away.
At least this by having a trial would have kept
them alive unquote in that sense, to at least be
talking about their lives again. Yeah, and there's a lot
we can go back and forth on this for hours.
(33:22):
That the physical or rather the actual expense of a trial,
but that would have been like and all the other.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Emotional aspects as well.
Speaker 6 (33:29):
It's a complicated kind of a thing, and I think
there's no perfect answer.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Very insightful observation you just made about closure. And finally,
just an odd finish to the Idaho arsonist slash attacker
of firefighters turns out maybe he wanted to be one
but was too short. But he was also homeless and troubled.
And we find out it's a twenty year old West.
Speaker 6 (33:55):
Raleigh, right, a transient living out of a van that
the fire photos had told them to move.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (34:02):
Again, we're still trying to piece together that timeline, but
the whole thing just seemed so tragic and the loss
of the firefighters and the waste of this young man's life.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
And that's your morning news briefing with Rory O'Neil. Thank you, Roy,
great reporting. As always, we're all in this together. This
is your morning Show with Michael nhild Joyo
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