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July 8, 2025 34 mins

A ceasefire with Israel and Hamas is one thing, last peace with Hamas remaining in Gaza, a much bigger hurdle.  Lieutenant Colonel James Carafano joins us to discuss the strategy for lasting peace. 

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del Jorno. Seven minutes after the hour. On this Tuesday,

(00:51):
July the eighth, the death toll has risen to one
hundred and four now confirmed dead from the catastrophic flooding
in central Texas. President Trump says the US will be
sending more weapons to Ukraine, Israeli Prime Minister along with
the Pakistan nominating President Trump for a Nobel Peace Prize.
And there is reportedly no evidence that convicted sex offender

(01:11):
Jeffrey Epstein kept a so called client list. If there's
no evidence a blackmail, there's no evidence of a so
called list.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Why do he kill himself?

Speaker 3 (01:23):
Oh, don't ask questions like that, right, Lieutenant Colonel James
Garafano is joining us. I'm gonna do this in reverse order.
Let's start with probably the biggest strategy that is going
on right now. It is one thing for a ceasefire
with Israel and Hamas, and then it's another for lasting peace,
especially if Hamas is anywhere in the picture in the Gaza.

(01:45):
That's a much bigger hurdle. How do you lay out
a strategy of lasting peace in the Gaza with elements
of radical Islam that continues to get control of these
regions and thus poison the water A tough one.

Speaker 5 (02:04):
Well, yeah, no, it's actually a super easy question.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
It's my morning show. I can just you know, you.

Speaker 5 (02:11):
Don't right, you know, you know Einstein's.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Definition of idiocy.

Speaker 5 (02:16):
You can't keep doing the same thing over and over
again and inspect different results. So you cannot have habas
involved in the governments of Gaza. If you have people
involved in the governance of Gaza who are interested in
reconstructing Gaza, getting people jobs, getting people got to work
and housing, over time, the wounds will heal, Gaza will

(02:37):
likely integrate seamlessly into Israeli society and will be fine.
But that's the only path forward, the only path there's
those two state solution. There's no returning Commas to power.
And you have to understand that. You could say, Jim,
that's completely idealistic. Well, it might have been if Iran

(02:59):
was not, uh you know, was the sponsor of everything
in the region, and if all the Arab states weren't
lighting up to normalize relations with Israel, if you didn't
have a US administration that was really committed to combating
radical Islamis threats. So I think, actually there's a possibility
for a different path forward, all right.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
So that's the key right in the building blocks of
this that makes it different is the the alignment of
the Arab nations. I mean, I think we were all struck.
I don't know, maybe it's a month ago or so,
you know, the President goes to Saudi Arabia, gets a
king's welcome, and then I remember him being in the
reception room and all the different officials coming up and

(03:40):
spending time with him, and then on to Cutter or Qatar,
however people choose to pronounce it. I think Qatar is
actually closer. But you know, the women with the with
the hair giving him, the parade and the camels and
all that, there was something that was done, something that
was pre laid, if you will, before some of these

(04:01):
tough decisions come, and that is that if the Arab
world gets more involved in this future, you can avoid
the nation building and trying to get Islamic people to
choose things they're anesthetical to their beliefs and put dangerous
people in power. I mean, at least that's my glimmer

(04:21):
of hope.

Speaker 5 (04:22):
That looks different, right, Yeah, And you left that one,
which is Turkia, because the Trump administration is now the
broker between turky Or and Israel, which are probably the
two countries that are most competitive in the region. So
what Trump has given the region is kind of the
one thing that makes this future possible, which is one

(04:44):
is we're not walking away and two we have taken
off the table probably for some time. The greatest threat
to piece and stability in the region, which is on
see those two things, is now you have to remember
in this part of the world, honor is power, right,

(05:07):
and what the United States and has demonstrated is the
ability to exercise power in concert with it's key ally
in the region Israel, and I think people will honor
that as long as they see that as really incredible,
and you know, the president's going to be there for
three more years.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
It's a bed on the future. So everybody Katari's wow,
your Turkey Israel.

Speaker 5 (05:34):
They're all kind of saying, okay, we're going to dance
with the one that brung us.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
You kind of went right where my next question was
going take me into the minds of the Arab world
or some of these players, because you say, honor is power,
but you know, America hasn't had a very consistent honorable leadership,
and they got to be looking at a clock that
shows three years and then an uncertainty of who will

(06:00):
I'll be running this nation and in a parent two
party system if it's the other party, there goes on
are out the window. I mean, how problematic is that
for them to trust the future.

Speaker 5 (06:11):
Well, because I think the nature of the American deal
is actually truly strategic economy. We're not coming into the
region to be the overlord. We're coming in the region
for our interests to advanced nations who are willing.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
To bring pieces to the region.

Speaker 5 (06:28):
So if you are in Riad or Ankra, or Tel
Aviv or Jerusalem, or even in Damascus, you're saying, probably
got at least three to five years of pretty comfortable
American presence.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
In concert with all these other countries.

Speaker 5 (06:50):
What can I accomplish in three to five years that's
going to put me in a very solid strategic position relative.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
To my economy and my security.

Speaker 5 (07:01):
And the answer is, I can make a lot of
ground in three to five years to be better to
kind of drive my own future. That's a you know,
it's it's it's not everything's risk, right, but it's it's
a risk and foreign decision that that you know, kind
of makes sense. It's not it's not a wild, crazy bet.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
Lieutenant Colonel James Carafinal joining us for a weekly military
foreign policy briefing. All right, let's talk about the people
as they returned to this destroyed area and the good
will of helping them rebuild and imagine a safe and
prosperous future. Will they embrace this?

Speaker 5 (07:43):
Well, again, uh, we're without repeating mistakes of the past.
So in the past we've handed reconstruction over to organizations
like RA which were essentially the allies of AMAS, which
you know again thoroughly corrupt. Put more money and resources
in the rebuilding militay capabilities and helping the people. So

(08:04):
if we if we don't do that, if we provide
physical security and safety and we do reconstruction in a
manner it's actually delivering jobs and political autonomy to people.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (08:19):
And there's there's nobody spreading you know, money and she
you know, to be a terrorist, then yeah, maybe I
mean this is you know, the the West Bank twenty
twenty five could be Berlin nineteen forty five.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
Right, So if you're there.

Speaker 5 (08:39):
And you're doing you know, then and you're reconstructing in
a way that is.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
Empowering and enabling people to get their own.

Speaker 5 (08:47):
Future meet you know, well, you know, just you know,
we've got twin experiments here.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
It's it's not you know, it's not just.

Speaker 5 (08:54):
Uh the East Bank, it's also well three experiments Lebanon,
uh and Syria. So it's it's going to be really
you know, there there's a there's a government in Syria
and Lebanon. Some in some ways maybe they're a little ahead,
but also maybe they're a little behind because the government's

(09:15):
got their own agendas. But Gods has you know, essentially
got a clean sleigh here. I don't mean that in
an evil way because obviously the place is destroyed, but
they have an opportunity to put together a governance structure
that serves the people of Goza, which is, let's be honest,
it's something that they have never had since the first day,

(09:36):
you know, yes.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
Or our foot and on his little turbine.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
So we're seeing Trump Trump derangement syndrome not getting better.
It's actually getting more violent and it's getting worse. And again,
you know, I can't imagine anything's going to set them
off more than the president getting a Nobel Peace Prize
when they're making them out to be a dictator and
a warmonger. But the President Pakistan nominates them for a

(10:01):
Nobel Peace Prize, Benjamin Yah, who nominates them for a
Nobel Peace Prize and announces it at a dinner. How
deserving is this president of a Nobel peace prize?

Speaker 5 (10:10):
Well, I think Nobel's peace prizes are a joke. So
I think the whole thing's kind of comical. Quite honestly.
The Pakistan nomination is completely cynical. It's it's designed to
piss off India. Sorry, it's just it's no, it's a design.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
To take it. I dig it India. So, I mean,
the Pakistan anything.

Speaker 5 (10:28):
Is really kind of incredibly disingenuous. You know what, it's
five minutes in history. He gets a Nobel prize, big deal.
It's not going to end trumps arrangement syndrome. He's gonna
put it on the shelf. We're going to be done
to move on. It's a meaningless award. Really sorry. And
you know, Trump said probably the most important thing the
other day when they talked about Trump arrangements and also

(10:50):
this stuff.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
He goes, it's the people that.

Speaker 5 (10:53):
Voted for me, it's their approval, that's the real reward.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
And that's exactly exactly right.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
President making the announcement more weapons are going to be
going to Ukraine. They're getting pummeled. They need our help.
And again, you know, the President is talked tough when
it comes to Zelensky, but he's yet to abandon him.
And here's another example.

Speaker 5 (11:13):
Right, I This is you know, if I can say
I told you so, which is terrible. You shouldn't be
saying that, right anybody that's been married more than twice.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
But I and here's the simple It doesn't matter if
he likes Vilinski, doesn't like Vilency, if he likes Tucker
Crosson doesn't like Tucker Crossen.

Speaker 5 (11:30):
Where's the scenario with the United States is better off
if Russia destroys Ukraine?

Speaker 2 (11:34):
And the answer is it's not there. And then the defining.

Speaker 5 (11:38):
Mark of the President's foreign policy is it's based on
America's interests.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
So if it's an America's interest.

Speaker 5 (11:44):
That Ukraine be a free and independent country and there's
something that we can practically do that's not busted in
the bank or anything else and stuff, of.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
Course the President's going to do that. And so I
I have full confidence that he was going to support
the Ukrainians.

Speaker 5 (11:59):
I have full confident that he is never going to
be a friend, a real friend to Vladimir Putin, because
Putin doesn't want a friend. And so this is I
think was completely predictable.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
I don't James Carafano joining US lieutenant colonel. I think
we've been doing this. We've never had to put a
definitive date on it. It's been over seventeen years. I believe
we've been visiting.

Speaker 5 (12:19):
Yeah, we started when I was in school, so yeah,
but yeah, neither of us are budgeting on retirement.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
Are we.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
But one of the first lessons you ever gave me
was the enemy has to say, and the enemy has
to say in this And what we've seen played out
is there is no end game of victory for Vladimir Putin.
He can't wait out Donald Trump, and he can't wait
out what appears most likely, which is a Donald Trump's
successor with the same policy. So what we're in the

(12:49):
midst of is them just taking another year to fight
something that inevitably can't be won. I'm pretty convinced that's
the choice that Putin has made.

Speaker 5 (12:59):
Correct right now. Of course, this is in puting all
these changes. Mind he is not He's never accountable to voters.
He's accountable to no one but himself. So he could
he can change his mind tomorrow and and cut a deal, which,
by the way, would be the smart move but but
it also he has all he's controlling all the strains,
and he can run the country into the ground until

(13:21):
it collapses, which is, you know, also possible. You've had
some really you know, disturbing news. The transportation minister resigns
and then falls on a bullet, and the number one
producer of gold in the country tries to leave the
country and gets arrested.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
So the I mean, it's hard not to interpret these
as kind of cracks in the army. Now, does it
mean the version of colasses? I don't think so.

Speaker 5 (13:45):
But uh, you know, the point is, you know, there.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
Are people.

Speaker 5 (13:52):
That voted for Bill Clinton's right, so we say the
enemy gets a vote, doesn't mean they always vote smart.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
I was just thinking what a difference a year makes.
We could bring up the border where those allowed into
the United States zero for the second month in a row.
I think the more astounding number is instead of one
hundred and fifty thousand trying to enter, it's down to
six thousand. That's the difference in leadership. It sends a
clear message. But I think of a year ago where

(14:22):
we were concerned about China maybe making a move on Taiwan.
The most predictable threat was closer than ever to having
a weapon of mass destruction to add to its motive
and means in Iran, and then you had an emboldened
Vladimir Putin. Today Iran is disarmed and coming to the table.

(14:42):
Nobody talks about Taiwan, China's laying low, signing a trade agreement,
and Russia. To your point, there's a lot of chinks
in the armor at home and a war that can't
be won. Wow, peace through strength, I guess there's your
Nobel Peace Prize right there.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (15:00):
But what's really interesting, and you talked about this before,
is Trump's arrangement Sudor, which is not just a national problem,
it's really a global problem. Trump is more hated than
ever all over the world, which is stunning considering that
the accomplishment list that you just gave, right, And it's
a product of two things. It's a product of failed

(15:20):
political systems and parties and institutions that just cannot let go,
and of a global media that just kind of and
elites which just kind of regurgitate this nonsense back and
back and forth. So it's remarkable, right that there's this.

(15:40):
The more successfully is actually the more decent.

Speaker 6 (15:43):
Like your hungle world.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
Well, that's that's false narrative for you. That's death of journalism.
That's the matrix we're living in, and it's a worldwide matrix.
Lieutenant Colonel James Carafana one of the finest military foreign
policy minds in America today, and that's when he's in America.
You can read his work and his colleagues great work
at Heritage dot org. Thank you so much time, Colonel.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
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Speaker 3 (16:37):
Rhet has disappeared, but somewhere I'm sure he's concerned about
the content coming up. We're gonna talk about a New
York Post story a Biden advisor pushed for Trump early debate.
Why would a Biden advisor want an early debate with
Donald Trump? Everybody was pointing to President Biden is cognitively

(17:06):
impaired than the Democrats. Rallied behind them. We know more
about that now. It was an angry memo from the
Vice president of the time, Kamala Harris, we got to
get behind the president. This is to save our fing democracy.
And then you had hokel and all the people that
were being considered to replace him getting behind him. This

(17:30):
is my favorite story of the day. Politically, it's not
anything that we weren't telling you in real time, but
we do have some new information. This makes it more
three dimensional. So you got ron Klain. Ron Klain was

(17:52):
one of the authors of the shadow campaign to save
the democracy, and then he ends up being chief of staff.
So that was stealing the election from the voters for
the Democrats, in other words, taking it away from Bernie
Sanders and just giving it to Joe Biden, and then

(18:12):
taking the first person rejected and out in the primary process,
Kamala Harris, and putting her on the ticket, and then
you have John Podesta on inauguration Day in twenty twenty
one saying, this is the new administrative state headed by
Joe Biden and Kamala Harris twice orchestrated against the will

(18:33):
of the Democrat voters. Then you have Ron Klain, the
former White House Chief of Staff, and Cedric Richmond, who
was the campaign co chair. They're advising an early debate
with Donald Trump. And this is after Kamala Harris, which

(18:54):
is a separate story we'll break down for you next hour.
Gets everybody that would have been then the replacement candidates Hulkel,
Gavin Newsom, Gretchen Whitmer, Andy Bursheer and Kentucky, J. D.

(19:16):
Pritzker in Illinois, Shapiro and Pennsylvania. You know, all the
people that if Joe Biden had stepped aside, would have
taken a real statistical run to replace him. So you
have Kamala Harris orchestrate all of them to get in
line behind the president to save our fing democracy quote unquote,

(19:43):
and show your support for Biden. Because remember at that time,
they were all skeptical that he could continue his campaign.
So they all get together and they all get behind Biden.
Isn't that convenient for Kamala Harris? And then they orchestrate

(20:06):
the early debate. They don't give them any shots to
juice them up. They let them go out and cognitively
fail for all to see. Because keep in mind, in
this memo that's been leaked, they forced the early debate.
What were we saying in real time? Why are you
doing a debate before the conventions? Well, they did it

(20:29):
on purpose. Why they wanted to maximize the viewership. Wait
a minute, you wanted to maximize the viewership of your
cognitively impaired candidate. That doesn't make any sense unless you
wanted to orchestrate his ousting and all of his electoral
votes that he had amassed in a primary with all
of the other candidates now stepped aside and behind him

(20:50):
and just handed to Kamala Harris. Boy, what a clear
picture you get of Democrat party corruption. Now, this is
what puts them in a checkmate today because moving forward,
you have Democrat voters who are not wanting to get
more and more violent.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
So you have.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
The civil war within the party with the socialist justice
Democrats against establishment Democrats. They've already won that battle, So
now how does it play out the next presidential election. Well,
in twenty sixteen, it would have been Bernie Sanders, but
they substituted Hillary and lost. In twenty twenty it would

(21:30):
have been Bernie Sanders again, but they substituted Joe Biden
and won. Then in twenty twenty four they substitute Joe
Biden with Kamala Harris and lost. But in all three
cases they ignored their own primary voters. Do you dare
to ignore them again? Because Bernie's already handed the torch
to AOC will be the early leader and they will

(21:53):
either have a Socialist Democrat nominee finally that'll destroy the party,
or for a fourth time they'll manipulate it. And my
guess is with Ronnie Manuel and Wes Moore, and they'll
be finally four times ignored and the party will destruct.

(22:14):
Either way. This party is at war with itself, and
it's a war like a parasite. If the parasite wins,
the host dies and the parasite dies with it, it's
a checkmate. Unfortunately, there's some violent time between now and then.

(22:36):
But this this is huge a message from Kamala Harris
getting all the potential candidates to stand down and get
behind the president right before they orchestrate an early debate
to remove the president and hand it to Kamala and
none of them.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
Now.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
They may be so focused on their Trump arrangement that
they're missing it. But I say that in and of itself,
by definition, it's scandalous revelation. This morning, I do, I.

Speaker 6 (23:08):
Do, I majored in online activision with a minor and
puberty box.

Speaker 7 (23:13):
They're a little bit in the media, clearly missed the
art of the deal.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
They're always revealing, they're often entertaining. It's time for your
Sounds of the day. We broke down shameless plug for
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(23:40):
position without facts. It leads to delusional posts like this
from Dublin where Rosie O'Donnell posted this.

Speaker 8 (23:51):
And what a horror story in Texas the flash floods
in Texas the Guadalupe River, fifty one missing, one dead,
more missing children at a camp. And you know when
the president guts all of the early warning systems and
the weathering forecast abilities of the government. These are the

(24:16):
results that we're going to start to see.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
That's it.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
President just got it. All the warning systems they just
don't exist. What next, you're gonna throw the big Oh yeah,
I'll thrown the big beautiful.

Speaker 8 (24:27):
Deal on a daily basis, because he's put this country
in so much danger by his horrible, horrible decisions and
this ridiculously immoral bill that he just signed into law
as Republicans cheered, as Republicans cheered, people will die as

(24:50):
a result, and they've started already.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
Shame on him. As Dean Warmer one said, fat, drunk
and stupid is no way to go through life, all right,
So then we broke down with the real situation. Now,
First of all, this was a historic by one hundred
year historic flood for what is already called flood Alley,
and locally they had a warning system in place that

(25:16):
they knew was not sufficient. They filed for a grant
of a million dollars, they didn't get it, and then
the people voted against investing in it. Nobody waits three
days to get all this information, and even after this
information's out, it's not going to change. Idiots from saying
what they say. They literally are putting their hatred of

(25:38):
Donald Trump above truth, above reality, above the children who died,
above all the adults who died.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
Sick.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
Now, it's one thing w Rosi o' donald does something
that deranged and stupid life from her compound in Ireland.
But then there's another one. A major network does. George
stepanophilis one of the strategists of the Clinton campaign, A
chief of staff or was he chief of staff or

(26:09):
was he White House spokesperson? I can't remember now who
cares right either way? A Clinton operative now disguised as
a morning host doing his Rosie O'Donnell Forrea.

Speaker 6 (26:22):
We're also learning that there were significant staffing shortfalls the
National Weather Services offices in the region.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
You know, George.

Speaker 9 (26:31):
As of right now, the local county officials really didn't
want to address that just yet. What they are telling
us is they expected between four and six inches of rain.
That is what weather experts told them, the National Weather
Service as well. They also knew that in remote locations
they might get anywhere from eight to ten inches. But
this amount of rain in such a short amount of time,
it was very difficult to navigate and when the Department

(26:54):
of Homeland Security secretary was here just yesterday. She acknowledged
this was an issue. She was going to take take
these concerns to the White House as well and try
and see if there was anything they could do to
revamp the system. She says, the President is committed to it.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
Yeah, so how does that match the narrative? The President
is wanting the technology to be improved, he's been working
to get it improved. Then we add the local element
of what they were going to install, and then they
voted against paying for But here's George Stepanophilus. If I

(27:32):
was Donald Trump, I'd sume again they already had to
settle fifteen million dollars in a libel suit trying to
perpetuate these narratives and myths. We also did in the
five o'clock hour something really very important this morning, which

(27:56):
is the story I am hearing something fed to me.
Are you doing something over there, Jeffrey, because I'm getting it.
Whatever you're doing, stop, I'm hearing it. It's distracting me.
I don't know why I'm getting it, but I am. Anyway,
the point I was going to make was, well, now
I completely lost my point. It was the earlier story

(28:17):
we did on the I'm completely lost now. Could I
have any more distractions today? Potentially? I'm sorry about that,
That's all right. Oh. It was the story on the
Democrats wanting to be more violent and they're looking for
George Floyd, and so their constituents are telling them, we
need to get somebody shot. We need to defy the
president more, we need to defy law and order more.

(28:40):
And that leads to one of the big stories of
the day, which is the ambush on the ICE soldiers
and law enforcement and the toning down of this. Well
that came up on Jesse Waters last night was Steven Miller,
and here was the reaction.

Speaker 10 (28:58):
Ice agents to patrol agents.

Speaker 6 (29:01):
Cops are now getting shot at.

Speaker 3 (29:04):
How is this happening.

Speaker 10 (29:08):
It's happening because Jesse there is an insurrectionist movement in
the Democratic Party that is inspiring domestic terrorism against ICE.
When you have the mayor of Los Angeles mobilizing agitators,
mobilizing the mob against ICE, saying that federal law enforcement

(29:29):
has to leave her city, this is a settled constitutional question.
Federal law is the supreme law of the land. You
cannot nullify it. You cannot succeed from it. It is
the law of the United States of America. So these
insurrectionist democrats are every day engaging in rhetoric that is incentivizing,
that is encouraging, that is fomenting violent terrorist attacks against

(29:52):
ICE and ICE officers, not only in the shootings that
you've seen recently, but ICE officers are being docked. They're
families and children are being threatened, their addresses are being
posted online. They are being subjected to a campaign of
terror by these radical democrats. Why, Jesse, what is this
all about? This is the central struggle in the West.

(30:14):
The Democrat Party's objective is to flood the West with
millions upon millions of illegals from the developing world, from
the poor nations of the world, the failed states of
the world, the collapsing states of the world, believing that
in so doing they.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
Will collapse the West.

Speaker 10 (30:32):
They will collapse the middle class, they will collapse the
population that has lived here before the migrants came. And
in so doing they think in the rubble of that
they can rule, they can sit on top of the
pile of ashes. Ask yourself this, why is it that
democrats are so insistent that unlimited numbers of illegals from

(30:55):
countries that are incapable of managing their own affairs come here,
countries like Somalia, countries like Haiti, countries that have no
history of successful self government, and they want unlimited numbers
of illegals from those countries and refugees from those countries to.

Speaker 3 (31:12):
Come here with no.

Speaker 10 (31:13):
Chance at the pace, the scale, the scope of arrivals
at being able to assimilate and integrate into the American
way of life.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
He basically touched on everything everything. This is a legal immigration,
not legal immigration. There is no assimilation. This is done
with an open border and by strategy for political power.
That's a lot of truth and in a matrix. And
by the way, it's going to get worse with AI.

(31:42):
This is the problem discerning a truth from lies in
a sea of rhetoric. But what I loved most is
the point he's making. This isn't rhetoric. This is their platform.
This is their strategy. As we document, this was their
strategy in twenty twenty insurrection, and it's their strategy again

(32:05):
and it's becoming more and more apparent. I don't know
how I have a time to do this. We asked
our big question yesterday was how is it possible there's
no evidence of a black book and any blackmail with Epstein?
When Pam Bondi said she had it on her desk,

(32:28):
I went back and found the audio. Is Pam Bondy
talking about the black book itself or the memo to
investigate Epstein?

Speaker 6 (32:39):
Listen, things that you alluded to, and this is something
Donald Trump has talked about the DOJ maybe releasing the
list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
Well, that really happened.

Speaker 7 (32:49):
It's sitting on my desk right now to review. That's
been a directive by President Trump.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
So the directive was on her desk to review.

Speaker 7 (32:58):
Listen, I'm reviewing that, viewing JFK files, MLK files. That's
all in the process of being reviewed because that was
done at the directive of the president from all of
these agencies.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
So have you seen.

Speaker 6 (33:09):
Anything that you said, Oh, my gosh.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
Not yet. So really, when you go back to that
Pam Bondi interview, it's pretty consistent. She wasn't saying the
black book was on her desk. The directive was on
her desk, along with directives on other issues. And when
asked point blank, is she's seen anything disturbing. She's responding
to that. That's not going to stop the matrix in

(33:33):
the far right from wanting more answers. And my biggest
question that I can't get an answer to. If they
didn't have any evidence of him blackmailing, if there weren't
any names on a black book or a list to release,
then why did Epstein kill himself?

Speaker 4 (33:52):
All right, everybody look them out.

Speaker 6 (33:54):
Look, you just got to try harder not to show.

Speaker 10 (33:57):
So I'm gont have the opportunity for a brief civics lesson.

Speaker 5 (33:59):
Sure, perhaps you'd like to be alone with a rapidly
deteriorating mental condition.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
Politics that don't know us all. We're all in this together.
This is Your Morning Show with Michael Del Jorno MHM
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