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July the ninth year of our Lord, twenty twenty five.
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So welcome to Wednesday, and welcome to the show that
belongs to you. This is your morning show. I'm Michael
del Chornham. We were going to talk about the shocking
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level of insensitivity and hate towards the flood victims by
the left and what that reveals. Is this just insensitivity
rhetoric or is this platform? Is this a portion of
a party that planned insurrection in the past and probably
have plans to do it again in the future. That's
why they're ambushing ice agents. Is this a drum beat
(01:36):
towards the Civil War? But before we get to that,
I was attacked by my next guest, David Sanati, shortly
before going on here. No, let's start with the Epstein thing,
because I know you're like, oh my gosh, you're just
going to step on all the egg cartons today.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
No, I think.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
I go at it from the Let's start with Dan Bongino.
This is a guy that was a respected scene could
service agent in very dangerous areas. Then he tries his
hand and gets into television talk and then into podcasting
and finds himself the fourth leading podcast and for much
of two to four years covering this Epstein.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Now he gives all.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Of that up to go to the FBI with Cash
Patel who promised to get to the bottom of everything.
I mean, that was the old crap moment for the
left right. Donald Trump won, Cash Bettel's now head of FBI,
and Bongino just left this podcast, and then all of
this is nothing. And according to the President in a
cabinet meeting, are you serious you're even asking about this
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when we have a tragedy and Texas and all the
good things we're doing.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
And I think back to what I said yesterday, which was.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
I can give you a laundry list of things of
promises made by Donald Trump and kept by Donald Trump
and successes for Donald Trump. What wouldn't be on that
list is Epstein, JFKR MLK, Arizona.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Assassination teacher, teacher. I've got one more. Oh really, what right?
While we're on I go ahead. Good morning.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Michael david Ssonatti's the CEO of the American Policy Roundtable,
host of the Public Square. We've got really fun stuff
to talk about today, well not fun, but interesting things
to start, Bob, But let's do this first.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Well, I've been running the numbers, and so is our
National legislative director at the American Policy round Table. On
the claims being made by Charlie Kirk and other Trump
acolytes who are basically saying he kept his promise on
getting rid of taxes on Social Security. Not even close. Yeah,
not even remotely close. If you have to work. Now,
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if you can live on two thousand dollars a month
and don't have any other.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Outside, that won't be taxed again.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Oh yeah, you're not going to be tax but you
probably won't be in taxed anyhow. Or if you can
do that and not make any more than then you're
going to get a break, temporary break for three years.
But if you're working and you're sixty seven years old,
you're still working, you're not gonna get any relief.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
You're gonna get hammered. Yeah, you can get hammered.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
What he's talking about is, if you can live on
two thousand dollars, you probably qualify for Medicaid to pick
up your premiums on Medicare, so you're probably not paying
any taxes anyway, or even for your healthcare. All right,
So what do you make I had one caller, I
can't remember if it was I think it was Austin.
Doesn't really matter, it matters whose name is. But he
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makes the point, come on, I'm busy with my everyday life.
Nobody's talking about Epstein. Nobody cares. I guess that's very similar.
I doubt that would be the reaction if it was
a Democrat administration. Well, it wasn't the reaction when a
Democrat administration was burying all this.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Should we care?
Speaker 1 (04:41):
I mean, I view this. The most dangerous thing I
see is more lack of trust, a breaching of trust.
And that's the problem. We don't trust our elected officials,
we don't trust our media, and we don't trust each other,
and we're fighting and hating each other. I mean, so
this builds on that. That's my main concern, and that
goes beyond Epstein, and it should.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Let's see, there was another story this morning that popped up.
Cato Institute is suing in regards to tariffs. Now, Cato
Institute's a libertarian organization that sometimes becomes conservative, and they've
been a valuable contributor in the idea.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Realm for a number of years.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
And so this is in black and endorsement, which to
say that they have legitimate questions, and they ask thoughtful questions,
and they try to do stuff in public policy, not
just talk about it. So they're waging lawfair right now
on behalf of people who they believe, and I think
they're probably right, are being unduly discriminated against in regards
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to tariffs. Because it's one thing to say, okay, we're
now going to tax copper. Let me tell you something
if I was still back in the metals business, which
where I started years ago, if somebody's going to tariff
copper fifty percent, you just shut my shop down until
I come up with a better alternative. Well, some people
like that have gotten with Cato and they're suing, basically saying,
not only are these discriminatory, particularly against small businesses, but
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this is the responsibility of Congress, not the president, to
arbitrarily decide what who.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Wakes up in the morning now it's copper.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
That is a difficult argument to refute because it is.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
The responsibility of Congress.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
It's one thing when the president acts on executive orders
and stuff that's maybe on the edges, and he can
pull it together and link it to legislation. But the
big problem is whether it's the right or the left,
the feckless, ineffectual Congress that will not step in and
take leadership over the things they're commissioned to do by
the Constitution.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
So they sit back and they wait for executive orders
and they.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Play politics, and the American people kind of play along
with it because we have we've kind of made a
worship of the presidency.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Well, and because I think it's I think it's because.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
It's simple to just blame one person, or worship one person,
or keep track of one person. And of course it's
so distant from you, whereas your member of Congress is
the closest thing to you by design by the founding fathers.
And you know, but I get back to like what
Austin was saying, you know, nobody's talking about Epstein. We're
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all busy with our life. Well, you know, I am not. Look,
I'm supportive of President Trump. That doesn't mean I'm gonna
agree with everything he does. H And I don't live
in the matrix. Therefore I don't have to comply with
the matrix. I can have a disagree with with him
without being thrown off the team. I'm focused on the inspiration,
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the Declaration of Independence, the road map, the Constitution, and
my duty as a citizen to preserve and protect this Republic,
and so you know, we can have differences, but this
erosion of trust, this dereliction of duty, especially with Congress.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
I could bring up COVID.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
These are problems that we're not addressing and we've made
We've made no inroads on the matrix, no inroads on
the death of journalism, and no inroads on and ineffective Congress.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Well, I disagree about the death of journalism. I'm a
big fan of your morning show with Michael del Jerna.
It starts at the bottom and starts somewhere right, and
there are people out there who are trying to ask
the serious questions and have the serious conversations and not
play into party loyalism.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
That's the other thing, Michael, I am the American people.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
If these are the American people, say, way, we're the
American people, what are you talking about. It's just like
somebody says public schools. Wait a second, I'm a part
of the public. We are in this thing together. This
is our government. It is we the people. It's not
they the people. It's we the people, and we the people.
You know, I've got a lot of things we're distracted by,
and in some cases we're kind of lazy.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
I'll tell you we spend a lot more.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
I spend a lot more time on my butt watching
Netflix in prime time and Amazon Prime than John Adams
ever did. He was at his desk working all night
thought or you did, right? I mean, I am no superhero.
Those guys to me were superheroes because they worked, and
we're all lazy. We like having somebody else take care
of it for us. All right, before I get to
the big topic, we're still warming up Red, So we're
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not going to do We're not gonna do anything about Epstein.
We're just to assume, oh that one minute that's missing,
that happens every twenty four hours, and he just timed
his suicide perfect. But we can confirm he wasn't killed.
It was suicide.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
There was no black book, there is no flight log,
there's nothing but child porn.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
This all ended up being nothing.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
I'm just trying to figure out why Dan Bongino left
his podcast and if there was nothing, why did he
kill himself?
Speaker 3 (09:40):
If he was nothing?
Speaker 4 (09:40):
What's this guy named Wexner from Columbus, Ohio who was
the only client that Epstein had and happened to be
the most Republican dominant force in the most important county
or the biggest county in this state of all, what.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Do you mean for a lot of people that are
just going to be like, oh my gosh, here's more
sweeping under the rug. How does this impact the veneer
that in Donald Trump, we have turned a corner in
returning government to the people in transparency. I think it
takes a ball great question.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
No, without you're gonna say in Donald Trump we trust
a bad choice. Okay, No, we don't trust in Donald Trump.
We trust in God. That's where money says, yea, and
he look, I'm already on to twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
I have to give the president credit where credit due.
Number one.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Somebody sent me to day, Well, you don't sound like
you don't like Donald Trump. No, I don't particularly care
for Donald Trump, but I don't know him. I don't
know him. I admire him and I respect him because
I respect what he's done, I respect what he suffered for,
and I believe that he believes he wants to do
the best for America. I respect and I admire that.
So it doesn't have to like somebody because I can't
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say whether I like him or not, because I don't
know him, and nobody else does either except a very
small group of folks, So I'm not in the club
of admiration.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
I have very few disagreements with him in foreign policy,
in fact, complete agreement. And I think he's been extraordinary.
I think he's kept the promises he's made. He has
certainly secured the border, he got the tax cuts secured
to avoid the largest tax increase. I don't know that
we've solved the housing crisis, and on all these promised investigations,
I don't think he's delivered.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
And that's going to be part of this, all right.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
I want to move to a probably the most troubling story,
just to give everybody a backdrop before we take the break.
We have talked about a nauseum, I might add where
all of this is headed. So clearly the Democrats planned
(11:35):
to do insurrection in twenty twenty, and then they called
it off. So the most obvious thing to say out
loud is if they would do it once, they'll do
it again. And they conditioned you before with all of
the BLM and Antifa and the good trouble, which was looting,
burning streets, burning cop cars, demonizing cops, praising criminals, that
(11:58):
was to condition you for in Then they pin insurrection
on Donald Trump. That wasn't really insurrection. Now I'm seeing
clear drum beats for insurrection, but really even worse drum
beats for a civil war. The obvious thing, and I
can I'm going to play a tirade coming up of
Caroline Levitt. The obvious thing is, oh, well, they're idiots.
(12:21):
They didn't learn anything from twenty twenty four. Now they're
still playing twenty twenty and twenty twenty four. So what
you're seeing that you think is insensitivity and hate from
the left towards the right with flood victims is actually
platform and there's something even darker. They're not pivoting to center.
They're not pivoting back towards the American people. The far
(12:41):
left of their party is pivoting even further left, and
that further left is violent. So when we come back Axios,
of all places, democrats told to get shot for anti
Trump resistance, is this the birthing of a civil war?
When your morning show continues next.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
This is your morning show with Michael del Chrono.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
I used to always say, behind every headline is a story,
and then behind every story there's so much to talk about. Wow, Well,
you know when it came to the shadow campaign to
save the Democracy that ended up being a manifesto And
unlike any other story, this one may stand out just
like that of all places axios the headline Democrats told
(13:29):
to get shot for anti Trump resistance.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
What then you start reading?
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Democrat members of Congress are facing a growing drumbeat of
demands to break the rules, fight dirty, and not be
afraid to get hurt. House Democrats stated they see growing
anger among their base, and in some cases it's morphed
into disregard for American institutions, political traditions, even rule of law.
(13:59):
A sense of fear and despair and anger among voters
puts us in a very difficult position where we can't
keep norms of decorum. For months, Democratic lawmakers have fumed
that their bases demand to fight harder. Here's where the
print gets really scary. Grassroots wants, some of them even
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suggesting we need to be willing to get shot when
visiting ice facilities or federal agencies. Our own base is
telling us that we're not doing enough. We're not doing
good enough. There needs to be blood to grab the
attention of the press and the public. By the way,
throughout this story they're giving names of members of Congress,
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no anonymity at all. The expectations are just unreal. In fact,
they're dangerous, said one Democrat. You know, I know a
lot of people are really right now with the level
of insensitivity and hatred. Oh good, they're getting what they deserve.
(15:05):
In Texas, you voted for Trump. I mean all that nonsense.
This is a party that had chose insurrection in order
to save democracy in twenty twenty, they stole the election
where they didn't have to follow through with it. Would
they do it again? And are these the drum beats
of it? Clearly they're looking for their next George Floyd, right.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Or something worse.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Michael, It's essential if you understand Saulolinski's Rules for Radicals,
which is the operating platform that Hillary Clinton has studied
under and it's been around and discussed a lot and
Obama sure, and so if you look at this methodology,
you know that chaos is essential to destabilize people's confidence,
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and from chaos you move to violence and anarchy, which
is then requires order because people cannot function without order,
and so they will then surrender to authoritarian. Now, these
people ironically are complaining about authoritarianism, knowing full well it's
their plan to take over by authoritarianism and always has.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Been, or using insurrection in the name of preserving democracy,
which is so anti democrat.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Yes, yes, so there is a game plan, and there's
a game plan for them to get back into power.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Things are fine as long as they have power.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
How concerned should we be that things are about to
turn I'm talking civil war violent when we continue on
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Speaker 3 (17:23):
So I can think of a lot of them that
were anyway.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Tsa says, Oh, everything's fine now, you can leave your
shoes on. I'm still looking for a peanut and I'd
like to keep my belt on. And death toll from
the catastrophic central flooding in Central Texas has now risen
to one hundred and eleven and quadrupling overnight. Is the
number of individuals unaccounted for. One hundred and seventy two
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is the sixth county number that we've been hearing. Roy
O'Neil's been following this story all week long, this tragedy.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
With us Rory.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
We should point out that, you know, there's I think
there was like ten from the camp site. But this
goes well beyond the camp site, well beyond children. This
is a six county area. There's a lot of death
to come.
Speaker 7 (18:10):
There is, and it was what twenty seven from the
camp in all, and I think ten of the girls
are still missing and among that one hundred and seventy,
just to show just how comprehensive this disaster has been
for this six county area. They are still in the
middle of search and rescue operations, recovery really. I think
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the Kerr County Sheriff confirmed they haven't found anyone alive
since Friday. So it's a grim mission. But it's also
difficult because so much debris has been pushed down this
Guadalupe River. There's a lot of stuff to go through
to remove in order to clear scenes so that everyone
can be accounted for.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Yeah, I mean, there's nothing you could say more compelling
than that there has not been a live person found
since Friday.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
It's not Wednesday. Let's go through the you know it was.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
It was probably the product of social media, probably the
product of partisan division in America. I don't know why
we jumped to immediate narrative positions before we have facts,
but you know, a lot of attention from the very
beginning on watches and warnings and funding at the National
Weather Service and other weather outlets. I actually read a
(19:22):
story last night before I went to bed, and it
put me to bed. After about twenty pages. The Atlantic
loves to write long, but even the Atlantic was fair
about covering all aspects of this. But what do we
know now on Wednesday in terms of the kind of
warning systems and how they operated.
Speaker 7 (19:44):
Well, it looks like the warnings were there. The question
is what do you do with the warning? Right, the
National Weather Service sort of did what it does. It
doesn't look like they missed anything. Maybe their initial forecast
didn't call for things to be this bad, but they
certainly put out the VIE the warning I think what
three hours before, So the warnings were there. The question
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really is what action was taken based on that, either
by the government or by individuals, and how they interpreted
those alerts. And that really is the big question, because
we get bombarded with all kinds of alerts and warnings
and my gosh, you turned on one of the news
channels every five minutes, it's breaking news when it's not really.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
So we sort of get.
Speaker 7 (20:26):
The immune or numb to all these alerts and flashing
warnings and perhaps miss don't really pay attention when it's
the real danger out there.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
This would call this is in a flash flood alley
number one. They're used to flooding. This is a one
hundred year level flood, so it's not since nineteen thirty
seven has the river ever risen this high. So, you know,
even the Atlantic, you know, said, look, the watches were there,
the warnings were there. It happened in the middle of
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the night. We don't know if people had cell service
in some areas, we don't know if they had their
phone set to get alerts. That's always the problem when
it's the middle of the night. But even the Atlantic
pointed to and I can tell you this was a
big deal with Katrina, and we've seen this with hurricanes.
It's all of the watches, warnings and dire warnings since
nineteen thirty seven that turned out to not necessary, and
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they've had some deadly ones back in eighty seven in
this area, but by and large that plays a role
in it. Right then, we even found out the strange
system they have where camp directors higher up the river
communicate to camp.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Directors lower down the river.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Then there was talk about a siren system, but then
the grant fell through and then the voters wouldn't approve it.
There's just a lot to this story. But somewhere in
the midst of this is the middle of the night
and past warnings of crying wolf and not taken seriously,
I think is where we're at well, right, And there
are also some things that you really can't prepare for.
(21:52):
In a thirty five foot wall of water developing in
thirty five minutes time isn't really something that anyone could
have prepared for. And that really may also be fueling
some of this fear that you're hearing, is that, yeah,
this is going to happen again too, and there's probably
despite all of our good intentions, that probably isn't much
we can.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Do about it.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Roy O'Neil, our national correspondent, thank you so much for
your reporting. All Right, forty one minutes after the hour
we kind of went through this. That's a big story, Axios.
All Right, so this is a leftist media source talking
to named members of Congress saying, our constituents want us
to die to fight Trump. They want to see blood,
(22:33):
they want to see cultural uprooting division. I mean, David,
this is the very talk of insurrection and civil war.
What keeps it from happening?
Speaker 4 (22:44):
Well, and we wouldn't be quite so concerned about it
because it's crystal clear that most people in America are
not interested in going out and getting shot in regards
to their political positions, nor our career politicians, right, But
there's enough that are willing to that. If they're funded
by outside sources that have a broader agenda that will
use the chaos for their own purposes, they can be exploited.
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And that's what's about to happen again. That's what things
were leading up to in twenty twenty and that the
hilarious shadow campaign article that came out that try to
unveil the whole thing through Time magazine, but in fact
it was only giving you the first layer of the
cover up. So this is where we are again, the
(23:26):
hope of exploiting violence to alter the outcome of midterms
and then to create momentum for twenty twenty eight, all
funded by people who have a globalist, non constitutional, non
American vision.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Ironically, Michael, in the midst of this.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
We're celebrating the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the
Declaration of Independence, which leads us to the Constitution, which
begins with the words we the People. It's a very
strange place to be at two hundred and fifty years
of age.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
A scary place to be. I mean some have suggested.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
What we really need to do is be willing to
get shot when visiting ICE facilities in federal agencies. By
the way, what makes this chilling is this is as
they're ambushing ICE agents.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
Well that's the point that they're talking about the response.
They're not talking about the cause and the causes. They
have to create a violent threat significant enough that they
get shot, which means that there's more than one group
of people who are going to be getting shot at
our base.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Is telling us what we are doing is not good
enough that we need. What needs to happen is we
need blood in order to grab the attention of the
press and the public. In other words, a lot. This
is strategy. But I thought what was interesting when you
brought up you know, I actually this axio story hit me,
and it hit me just like the shadow campaign Time
(24:41):
magazine story. Now, the big difference is Time was after
the fact. They're telling you how they stole the election.
We weaponized COVID, we changed election laws, we didn't go
through state legislatures, which made it unconstitutional, and then we
harvested ballots, especially in very swing districts, some very swing States,
(25:01):
and we stole the election. Now had it not work,
we had a planned insurrection, and we were conditioning everybody
with the violence in the streets that we were calling
good trouble. In fact, they even talk about in the
Time magazine article how they had just scrambled to call
off the insurrection because they couldn't believe Biden won. All right,
So that was after the fact and all justified by
(25:22):
we had to save our democracy. And they'll justify this,
but we have to save our democracy as their goal
is to destroy the democracy and the republic. But this
one is telling you before it happens. Time Magazine was
after it happened. That's worthy a node. It's very significant.
And what's also significant.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
Is whether or not somebody on either side or no
side of this is going to call us back to
the first question and to reason, because what's really happening
is this is a shirts and skins game among the
political class, and the people that are caught up at
the bottom of this are being exploited for somebody else's
agenda and the rest of us are paying for it.
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At what point in time do the people of America say,
you know what, governing doesn't have to be this complicated.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
You all need to go home, you know, y'all.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
Should go get a job and understand what it's like
to have to pay for all this, then maybe you
can come back. We need a change that moves us
past both political parties.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
I will agree.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
I will agree with Austin earlier in that I think
this Axio story is more significant than the cover up
of Epstein by far. Yeah, and you know this is
a party. Well, first of all, we're not a two
part I mean we we operate with two major parties
and as a two party system.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
That was never our intent.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
But we have a civil war within one of the
two major parties that is trying to create a civil
war for the entire country. This ends one of two ways, right, Obviously,
this party, it's going to lose itself either as the parasite,
as the host dies, the parasite is going to die
with it, or it's going to lose all credibility or
tolerance from the American people. They either become irrelevant and gone,
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or they achieve this civil war. But is there another
outcome that you can think of?
Speaker 3 (27:08):
I can't.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
Well, when you look at history over and over again,
that the groups that have always used chaos to create
anarchy then come in with sotalitarian order. We've never seen
that operation in a technological society like ours, where everyone
can turn on a camera and turn on a phone
and turn on an information flow. So the question is
can you get away with it when everyone's watching? That's
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the real challenge, and when people are reporting honestly about it.
But the thing that's really frightening, Michael, that you've put
up in a matrix, My answer is yes for some yes, well,
and that takes us back to what they're defining as
their base. If the base of the Democrat Party are
now the anarchists, they've already lost. They've already lost because
people will not tolerate it.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Now. The irony is that they.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
Think that everyone is so stupid that they can watch
them do exactly what they're accusing their opponents of and say, oh,
for you, it's okay. One of the point we have
preached tribalism in this country for the last twenty to
forty years. We have told people that they are unique
in and of themselves based on things that do not
necessarily make them unique, and that the other people aren't
like you or bad tribalism ends up in tribal wars.
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You don't win the Nobel Peace Prize. Telling people that
they're part of a tribe.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Is this as concerning as the Time magazine manifesto?
Speaker 3 (28:28):
What's more so? Yeah? Yeah, they were just getting warmed
up there.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Do they play this card in the midterms, after the
mid terms or leading into the presidential They're desperate.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Momentum is everything.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
You've got to start now to get to twenty six
as you're already behind.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
They can't seem to find a leader, They can't seem
to find a message. Something tells me the prisoners are
running the prison and.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
If they create the environment, then it's sort of like
if you build the chaos, the leader will come.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
That's the game they're playing.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
This as we get ready to start for one year
long focus in celebration on our two hundred and fiftieth birthday,
that all began with a declaration of independence, a declaration
not taught in schools, a declaration not read very often
and apparently completely forgotten. David's and not with the American
Pouse Roundtable host of the Public Square. We'll talk again tomorrow.
We got a bonus visit tomorrow. Thanks Michael.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
It's your Morning Show with Michael Del Journo.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
White House correspondent John Decker is joining us fifty three
minutes after the hour on the air and on your
iHeartRadio app. This is your Morning Show on Michael del Jornim.
I want to start before we get to the Vladimir Putin.
You know, John was just twenty four hours ago. It
seems like five minutes ago. We were talking and I'm
like everybody is. You know, had high hopes when Trump
got elected, had high hopes when Cash Mattel was named
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head of the FBI, even higher hopes when Dan Bongino
left his podcast to go work for the FBI. What
a sacrifice he gave up a lot. We're going to
get to the bottom of JFKA, We're gonna get to
the bottom of RFK, We're gonna get to the bottom
of MLK.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
We may even get to the bottom of the Trump assassination.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
And we're sure as heck gonna get to the bottom
of the Epstein investigation. And then just all swept under
the rugs. So we said, well, here comes the cabinet meetings.
Someone's gonna ask him about it, and The President's response was,
are you serious you care about this goofball Epstein when
we've got suffering in Texas and all the good things
were now suddenly we're not even supposed to care. That
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was not the response I was expecting.
Speaker 8 (30:30):
Yeah, you know, the President, you seem like a touched
a nerve there, right with that one particular question coming
from my colleague Steven Nelson at the New York Post.
And you know, I don't know why you just answered
the question and you move on, you know, and you
respond to questions.
Speaker 9 (30:46):
That I think was a very fair question. A lot
of people have questions like you do, Michael.
Speaker 8 (30:50):
About Epstein, and so yeah, I was surprised by that
reaction coming from the President yesterday.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Well why is I mean, let's give Prince Andrew Beeca
his stripes. You know, there's just so then and then
what do we get in the end? Oh, the one
minute gap in the film that happens every twenty four hours.
He just timed his suicide perfect, and he liked a
lot of sheets. But I mean, you know, and then
there's no black book, there's no flight log. And then
I even had one listener who was and I'm not
(31:16):
bashing the listener. He's just like, you know, Michael, you're
making a big deal all of this.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Nobody really thinks about Epstein.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Well, you know that's not true if we had presidents
compromised and being blackmailed, or we had presidents having sex
with underage children, just like it matters if Joe Biden
wasn't really president and someone was abusing an autopend. This
stuff matters, I think, I hope.
Speaker 9 (31:39):
Well, you know, it matters.
Speaker 8 (31:41):
It matters to people like you and others, and you know,
it's the reason why you got to just be up front,
answer those questions and be you know, upfront about these things,
be transparent about these things.
Speaker 9 (31:54):
And you know when you mentioned some people, Cash could.
Speaker 8 (31:57):
Tell Damn Bongino they had a different view, entirely different
view of the situation regarding Eppstein before they were in
the Trump administration. And you know, I mean, that's what happens.
You fall in line and you follow the lead of
your leader, and that's what they're doing in terms of
their opinions and official actions that they've taken since joining
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the Trump administration.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
I always bring it up in this way, Promises made,
promises kept by the President, and I give him praise
words too. There were a lot of promises made about
a lot of these investigations, and now they're trying to
sell us a new one with John Brennan and James
Comby with no credibility because none of these promises have
been kept. All right, not happy with Putin. I don't
think you could have made it more clearly. What is
(32:42):
this and now the weapons going to Ukraine? Your take
on I'm obviously the president effectively isolated Iran. Iran has
been dealt with. This is the president effectively isolating Putin
trying to get.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Well, that's right.
Speaker 8 (32:59):
You know you're heard from Lindsay Graham. He's the chairman
of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, and he indicated that
the President now supports his.
Speaker 9 (33:05):
Sanctions bill against Russia, so.
Speaker 8 (33:07):
That will likely move that bill quickly through Congress and
get to the President's desk for his signature. That sanctions
bill targets Russia where it breathes, and that is oil,
the oil revenue that sustains its war against Russia. You
take away that oil revenue, they can't fight the war.
They can't pay those Russia, those North Korean soldiers that
(33:30):
are fighting the war on behalf of Russia. You know,
by the way, it tells you a little bit about
how weak the Russian military is, that that needs to
rely on North Korea to fight its battle.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Against Ukraine, and that the war.
Speaker 8 (33:41):
For that matter, Russia is a superpower. They say, the
war's gone on for three and a half years, some superpower.
Look what the US did in terms of isolating Iran
one day, one strike, three nuclear missile sites, and that's it.
We don't hear a peep out of Iran. You know,
we are the superpower of the world.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
You just probably answered my My only follow up question
is Eric, so what does this not happy with translate to?
And you think tightening the screws with sanctions that's what's
coming next.
Speaker 8 (34:10):
Yeah, that's right. Yeah, I think that. You know, he's
he's we heard it yesterday. The president, you know, is
tired of the nice conversations as he calls it with
Vladimir Putin that don't lead to any type of change
in behavior, and so now he has to, you know,
support the bill that has strong bipartisan support. By the way,
Michael Whether an eighty senator support that legislation.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
In the Senate. It will likely sail through the House
as well.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
John Decker, Whitehouse Correspondent, great reporting as always.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
That'll do it for today.
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July the ninth year of our Lord, twenty twenty five.
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So welcome to Wednesday, and welcome to the show that
belongs to you. This is your morning show. I'm Michael
del Chornham. We were going to talk about the shocking
(01:13):
level of insensitivity and hate towards the flood victims by
the left and what that reveals. Is this just insensitivity
rhetoric or is this platform? Is this a portion of
a party that planned insurrection in the past and probably
have plans to do it again in the future. That's
why they're ambushing ice agents. Is this a drum beat
(01:36):
towards the Civil War? But before we get to that,
I was attacked by my next guest, David Sanati, shortly
before going on here. No, let's start with the Epstein thing,
because I know you're like, oh my gosh, you're just
going to step on all the egg cartons today.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
No, I think.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
I go at it from the Let's start with Dan Bongino.
This is a guy that was a respected scene could
service agent in very dangerous areas. Then he tries his
hand and gets into television talk and then into podcasting
and finds himself the fourth leading podcast and for much
of two to four years covering this Epstein.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Now he gives all.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Of that up to go to the FBI with Cash
Patel who promised to get to the bottom of everything.
I mean, that was the old crap moment for the
left right. Donald Trump won, Cash Bettel's now head of FBI,
and Bongino just left this podcast, and then all of
this is nothing. And according to the President in a
cabinet meeting, are you serious you're even asking about this
(02:41):
when we have a tragedy and Texas and all the
good things we're doing.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
And I think back to what I said yesterday, which was.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
I can give you a laundry list of things of
promises made by Donald Trump and kept by Donald Trump
and successes for Donald Trump. What wouldn't be on that
list is Epstein, JFKR MLK, Arizona.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Assassination teacher, teacher. I've got one more. Oh really, what right?
While we're on I go ahead. Good morning.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Michael david Ssonatti's the CEO of the American Policy Roundtable,
host of the Public Square. We've got really fun stuff
to talk about today, well not fun, but interesting things
to start, Bob, But let's do this first.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Well, I've been running the numbers, and so is our
National legislative director at the American Policy round Table. On
the claims being made by Charlie Kirk and other Trump
acolytes who are basically saying he kept his promise on
getting rid of taxes on Social Security. Not even close. Yeah,
not even remotely close. If you have to work. Now,
(03:40):
if you can live on two thousand dollars a month
and don't have any other.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Outside, that won't be taxed again.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Oh yeah, you're not going to be tax but you
probably won't be in taxed anyhow. Or if you can
do that and not make any more than then you're
going to get a break, temporary break for three years.
But if you're working and you're sixty seven years old,
you're still working, you're not gonna get any relief.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
You're gonna get hammered. Yeah, you can get hammered.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
What he's talking about is, if you can live on
two thousand dollars, you probably qualify for Medicaid to pick
up your premiums on Medicare, so you're probably not paying
any taxes anyway, or even for your healthcare. All right,
So what do you make I had one caller, I
can't remember if it was I think it was Austin.
Doesn't really matter, it matters whose name is. But he
(04:24):
makes the point, come on, I'm busy with my everyday life.
Nobody's talking about Epstein. Nobody cares. I guess that's very similar.
I doubt that would be the reaction if it was
a Democrat administration. Well, it wasn't the reaction when a
Democrat administration was burying all this.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Should we care?
Speaker 1 (04:41):
I mean, I view this. The most dangerous thing I
see is more lack of trust, a breaching of trust.
And that's the problem. We don't trust our elected officials,
we don't trust our media, and we don't trust each other,
and we're fighting and hating each other. I mean, so
this builds on that. That's my main concern, and that
goes beyond Epstein, and it should.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Let's see, there was another story this morning that popped up.
Cato Institute is suing in regards to tariffs. Now, Cato
Institute's a libertarian organization that sometimes becomes conservative, and they've
been a valuable contributor in the idea.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Realm for a number of years.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
And so this is in black and endorsement, which to
say that they have legitimate questions, and they ask thoughtful questions,
and they try to do stuff in public policy, not
just talk about it. So they're waging lawfair right now
on behalf of people who they believe, and I think
they're probably right, are being unduly discriminated against in regards
(05:38):
to tariffs. Because it's one thing to say, okay, we're
now going to tax copper. Let me tell you something
if I was still back in the metals business, which
where I started years ago, if somebody's going to tariff
copper fifty percent, you just shut my shop down until
I come up with a better alternative. Well, some people
like that have gotten with Cato and they're suing, basically saying,
not only are these discriminatory, particularly against small businesses, but
(06:00):
this is the responsibility of Congress, not the president, to
arbitrarily decide what who.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Wakes up in the morning now it's copper.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
That is a difficult argument to refute because it is.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
The responsibility of Congress.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
It's one thing when the president acts on executive orders
and stuff that's maybe on the edges, and he can
pull it together and link it to legislation. But the
big problem is whether it's the right or the left,
the feckless, ineffectual Congress that will not step in and
take leadership over the things they're commissioned to do by
the Constitution.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
So they sit back and they wait for executive orders
and they.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Play politics, and the American people kind of play along
with it because we have we've kind of made a
worship of the presidency.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Well, and because I think it's I think it's because.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
It's simple to just blame one person, or worship one person,
or keep track of one person. And of course it's
so distant from you, whereas your member of Congress is
the closest thing to you by design by the founding fathers.
And you know, but I get back to like what
Austin was saying, you know, nobody's talking about Epstein. We're
(07:09):
all busy with our life. Well, you know, I am not. Look,
I'm supportive of President Trump. That doesn't mean I'm gonna
agree with everything he does. H And I don't live
in the matrix. Therefore I don't have to comply with
the matrix. I can have a disagree with with him
without being thrown off the team. I'm focused on the inspiration,
(07:29):
the Declaration of Independence, the road map, the Constitution, and
my duty as a citizen to preserve and protect this Republic,
and so you know, we can have differences, but this
erosion of trust, this dereliction of duty, especially with Congress.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
I could bring up COVID.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
These are problems that we're not addressing and we've made
We've made no inroads on the matrix, no inroads on
the death of journalism, and no inroads on and ineffective Congress.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Well, I disagree about the death of journalism. I'm a
big fan of your morning show with Michael del Jerna.
It starts at the bottom and starts somewhere right, and
there are people out there who are trying to ask
the serious questions and have the serious conversations and not
play into party loyalism.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
That's the other thing, Michael, I am the American people.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
If these are the American people, say, way, we're the
American people, what are you talking about. It's just like
somebody says public schools. Wait a second, I'm a part
of the public. We are in this thing together. This
is our government. It is we the people. It's not
they the people. It's we the people, and we the people.
You know, I've got a lot of things we're distracted by,
and in some cases we're kind of lazy.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
I'll tell you we spend a lot more.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
I spend a lot more time on my butt watching
Netflix in prime time and Amazon Prime than John Adams
ever did. He was at his desk working all night
thought or you did, right? I mean, I am no superhero.
Those guys to me were superheroes because they worked, and
we're all lazy. We like having somebody else take care
of it for us. All right, before I get to
the big topic, we're still warming up Red, So we're
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not going to do We're not gonna do anything about Epstein.
We're just to assume, oh that one minute that's missing,
that happens every twenty four hours, and he just timed
his suicide perfect. But we can confirm he wasn't killed.
It was suicide.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
There was no black book, there is no flight log,
there's nothing but child porn.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
This all ended up being nothing.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
I'm just trying to figure out why Dan Bongino left
his podcast and if there was nothing, why did he
kill himself?
Speaker 3 (09:40):
If he was nothing?
Speaker 4 (09:40):
What's this guy named Wexner from Columbus, Ohio who was
the only client that Epstein had and happened to be
the most Republican dominant force in the most important county
or the biggest county in this state of all, what.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Do you mean for a lot of people that are
just going to be like, oh my gosh, here's more
sweeping under the rug. How does this impact the veneer
that in Donald Trump, we have turned a corner in
returning government to the people in transparency. I think it
takes a ball great question.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
No, without you're gonna say in Donald Trump we trust
a bad choice. Okay, No, we don't trust in Donald Trump.
We trust in God. That's where money says, yea, and
he look, I'm already on to twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
I have to give the president credit where credit due.
Number one.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Somebody sent me to day, Well, you don't sound like
you don't like Donald Trump. No, I don't particularly care
for Donald Trump, but I don't know him. I don't
know him. I admire him and I respect him because
I respect what he's done, I respect what he suffered for,
and I believe that he believes he wants to do
the best for America. I respect and I admire that.
So it doesn't have to like somebody because I can't
(10:43):
say whether I like him or not, because I don't
know him, and nobody else does either except a very
small group of folks, So I'm not in the club
of admiration.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
I have very few disagreements with him in foreign policy,
in fact, complete agreement. And I think he's been extraordinary.
I think he's kept the promises he's made. He has
certainly secured the border, he got the tax cuts secured
to avoid the largest tax increase. I don't know that
we've solved the housing crisis, and on all these promised investigations,
I don't think he's delivered.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
And that's going to be part of this, all right.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
I want to move to a probably the most troubling story,
just to give everybody a backdrop before we take the break.
We have talked about a nauseum, I might add where
all of this is headed. So clearly the Democrats planned
(11:35):
to do insurrection in twenty twenty, and then they called
it off. So the most obvious thing to say out
loud is if they would do it once, they'll do
it again. And they conditioned you before with all of
the BLM and Antifa and the good trouble, which was looting,
burning streets, burning cop cars, demonizing cops, praising criminals, that
(11:58):
was to condition you for in Then they pin insurrection
on Donald Trump. That wasn't really insurrection. Now I'm seeing
clear drum beats for insurrection, but really even worse drum
beats for a civil war. The obvious thing, and I
can I'm going to play a tirade coming up of
Caroline Levitt. The obvious thing is, oh, well, they're idiots.
(12:21):
They didn't learn anything from twenty twenty four. Now they're
still playing twenty twenty and twenty twenty four. So what
you're seeing that you think is insensitivity and hate from
the left towards the right with flood victims is actually
platform and there's something even darker. They're not pivoting to center.
They're not pivoting back towards the American people. The far
(12:41):
left of their party is pivoting even further left, and
that further left is violent. So when we come back Axios,
of all places, democrats told to get shot for anti
Trump resistance, is this the birthing of a civil war?
When your morning show continues next.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
This is your morning show with Michael del Chrono.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
I used to always say, behind every headline is a story,
and then behind every story there's so much to talk about. Wow, Well,
you know when it came to the shadow campaign to
save the Democracy that ended up being a manifesto And
unlike any other story, this one may stand out just
like that of all places axios the headline Democrats told
(13:29):
to get shot for anti Trump resistance.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
What then you start reading?
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Democrat members of Congress are facing a growing drumbeat of
demands to break the rules, fight dirty, and not be
afraid to get hurt. House Democrats stated they see growing
anger among their base, and in some cases it's morphed
into disregard for American institutions, political traditions, even rule of law.
(13:59):
A sense of fear and despair and anger among voters
puts us in a very difficult position where we can't
keep norms of decorum. For months, Democratic lawmakers have fumed
that their bases demand to fight harder. Here's where the
print gets really scary. Grassroots wants, some of them even
(14:21):
suggesting we need to be willing to get shot when
visiting ice facilities or federal agencies. Our own base is
telling us that we're not doing enough. We're not doing
good enough. There needs to be blood to grab the
attention of the press and the public. By the way,
throughout this story they're giving names of members of Congress,
(14:45):
no anonymity at all. The expectations are just unreal. In fact,
they're dangerous, said one Democrat. You know, I know a
lot of people are really right now with the level
of insensitivity and hatred. Oh good, they're getting what they deserve.
(15:05):
In Texas, you voted for Trump. I mean all that nonsense.
This is a party that had chose insurrection in order
to save democracy in twenty twenty, they stole the election
where they didn't have to follow through with it. Would
they do it again? And are these the drum beats
of it? Clearly they're looking for their next George Floyd, right.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Or something worse.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Michael, It's essential if you understand Saulolinski's Rules for Radicals,
which is the operating platform that Hillary Clinton has studied
under and it's been around and discussed a lot and
Obama sure, and so if you look at this methodology,
you know that chaos is essential to destabilize people's confidence,
(15:50):
and from chaos you move to violence and anarchy, which
is then requires order because people cannot function without order,
and so they will then surrender to authoritarian. Now, these
people ironically are complaining about authoritarianism, knowing full well it's
their plan to take over by authoritarianism and always has.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Been, or using insurrection in the name of preserving democracy,
which is so anti democrat.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Yes, yes, so there is a game plan, and there's
a game plan for them to get back into power.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Things are fine as long as they have power.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
How concerned should we be that things are about to
turn I'm talking civil war violent when we continue on
your Morning Show with David Sonati.
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(17:12):
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tax exempt status.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
So I can think of a lot of them that
were anyway.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Tsa says, Oh, everything's fine now, you can leave your
shoes on. I'm still looking for a peanut and I'd
like to keep my belt on. And death toll from
the catastrophic central flooding in Central Texas has now risen
to one hundred and eleven and quadrupling overnight. Is the
number of individuals unaccounted for. One hundred and seventy two
(17:49):
is the sixth county number that we've been hearing. Roy
O'Neil's been following this story all week long, this tragedy.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
With us Rory.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
We should point out that, you know, there's I think
there was like ten from the camp site. But this
goes well beyond the camp site, well beyond children. This
is a six county area. There's a lot of death
to come.
Speaker 7 (18:10):
There is, and it was what twenty seven from the
camp in all, and I think ten of the girls
are still missing and among that one hundred and seventy,
just to show just how comprehensive this disaster has been
for this six county area. They are still in the
middle of search and rescue operations, recovery really. I think
(18:31):
the Kerr County Sheriff confirmed they haven't found anyone alive
since Friday. So it's a grim mission. But it's also
difficult because so much debris has been pushed down this
Guadalupe River. There's a lot of stuff to go through
to remove in order to clear scenes so that everyone
can be accounted for.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Yeah, I mean, there's nothing you could say more compelling
than that there has not been a live person found
since Friday.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
It's not Wednesday. Let's go through the you know it was.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
It was probably the product of social media, probably the
product of partisan division in America. I don't know why
we jumped to immediate narrative positions before we have facts,
but you know, a lot of attention from the very
beginning on watches and warnings and funding at the National
Weather Service and other weather outlets. I actually read a
(19:22):
story last night before I went to bed, and it
put me to bed. After about twenty pages. The Atlantic
loves to write long, but even the Atlantic was fair
about covering all aspects of this. But what do we
know now on Wednesday in terms of the kind of
warning systems and how they operated.
Speaker 7 (19:44):
Well, it looks like the warnings were there. The question
is what do you do with the warning? Right, the
National Weather Service sort of did what it does. It
doesn't look like they missed anything. Maybe their initial forecast
didn't call for things to be this bad, but they
certainly put out the VIE the warning I think what
three hours before, So the warnings were there. The question
(20:05):
really is what action was taken based on that, either
by the government or by individuals, and how they interpreted
those alerts. And that really is the big question, because
we get bombarded with all kinds of alerts and warnings
and my gosh, you turned on one of the news
channels every five minutes, it's breaking news when it's not really.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
So we sort of get.
Speaker 7 (20:26):
The immune or numb to all these alerts and flashing
warnings and perhaps miss don't really pay attention when it's
the real danger out there.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
This would call this is in a flash flood alley
number one. They're used to flooding. This is a one
hundred year level flood, so it's not since nineteen thirty
seven has the river ever risen this high. So, you know,
even the Atlantic, you know, said, look, the watches were there,
the warnings were there. It happened in the middle of
(20:54):
the night. We don't know if people had cell service
in some areas, we don't know if they had their
phone set to get alerts. That's always the problem when
it's the middle of the night. But even the Atlantic
pointed to and I can tell you this was a
big deal with Katrina, and we've seen this with hurricanes.
It's all of the watches, warnings and dire warnings since
nineteen thirty seven that turned out to not necessary, and
(21:16):
they've had some deadly ones back in eighty seven in
this area, but by and large that plays a role
in it. Right then, we even found out the strange
system they have where camp directors higher up the river
communicate to camp.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Directors lower down the river.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Then there was talk about a siren system, but then
the grant fell through and then the voters wouldn't approve it.
There's just a lot to this story. But somewhere in
the midst of this is the middle of the night
and past warnings of crying wolf and not taken seriously,
I think is where we're at well, right, And there
are also some things that you really can't prepare for.
(21:52):
In a thirty five foot wall of water developing in
thirty five minutes time isn't really something that anyone could
have prepared for. And that really may also be fueling
some of this fear that you're hearing, is that, yeah,
this is going to happen again too, and there's probably
despite all of our good intentions, that probably isn't much
we can.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Do about it.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Roy O'Neil, our national correspondent, thank you so much for
your reporting. All Right, forty one minutes after the hour
we kind of went through this. That's a big story, Axios.
All Right, so this is a leftist media source talking
to named members of Congress saying, our constituents want us
to die to fight Trump. They want to see blood,
(22:33):
they want to see cultural uprooting division. I mean, David,
this is the very talk of insurrection and civil war.
What keeps it from happening?
Speaker 4 (22:44):
Well, and we wouldn't be quite so concerned about it
because it's crystal clear that most people in America are
not interested in going out and getting shot in regards
to their political positions, nor our career politicians, right, But
there's enough that are willing to that. If they're funded
by outside sources that have a broader agenda that will
use the chaos for their own purposes, they can be exploited.
(23:06):
And that's what's about to happen again. That's what things
were leading up to in twenty twenty and that the
hilarious shadow campaign article that came out that try to
unveil the whole thing through Time magazine, but in fact
it was only giving you the first layer of the
cover up. So this is where we are again, the
(23:26):
hope of exploiting violence to alter the outcome of midterms
and then to create momentum for twenty twenty eight, all
funded by people who have a globalist, non constitutional, non
American vision.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Ironically, Michael, in the midst of this.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
We're celebrating the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the
Declaration of Independence, which leads us to the Constitution, which
begins with the words we the People. It's a very
strange place to be at two hundred and fifty years
of age.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
A scary place to be. I mean some have suggested.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
What we really need to do is be willing to
get shot when visiting ICE facilities in federal agencies. By
the way, what makes this chilling is this is as
they're ambushing ICE agents.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
Well that's the point that they're talking about the response.
They're not talking about the cause and the causes. They
have to create a violent threat significant enough that they
get shot, which means that there's more than one group
of people who are going to be getting shot at
our base.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Is telling us what we are doing is not good
enough that we need. What needs to happen is we
need blood in order to grab the attention of the
press and the public. In other words, a lot. This
is strategy. But I thought what was interesting when you
brought up you know, I actually this axio story hit me,
and it hit me just like the shadow campaign Time
(24:41):
magazine story. Now, the big difference is Time was after
the fact. They're telling you how they stole the election.
We weaponized COVID, we changed election laws, we didn't go
through state legislatures, which made it unconstitutional, and then we
harvested ballots, especially in very swing districts, some very swing States,
(25:01):
and we stole the election. Now had it not work,
we had a planned insurrection, and we were conditioning everybody
with the violence in the streets that we were calling
good trouble. In fact, they even talk about in the
Time magazine article how they had just scrambled to call
off the insurrection because they couldn't believe Biden won. All right,
So that was after the fact and all justified by
(25:22):
we had to save our democracy. And they'll justify this,
but we have to save our democracy as their goal
is to destroy the democracy and the republic. But this
one is telling you before it happens. Time Magazine was
after it happened. That's worthy a node. It's very significant.
And what's also significant.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
Is whether or not somebody on either side or no
side of this is going to call us back to
the first question and to reason, because what's really happening
is this is a shirts and skins game among the
political class, and the people that are caught up at
the bottom of this are being exploited for somebody else's
agenda and the rest of us are paying for it.
(26:02):
At what point in time do the people of America say,
you know what, governing doesn't have to be this complicated.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
You all need to go home, you know, y'all.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
Should go get a job and understand what it's like
to have to pay for all this, then maybe you
can come back. We need a change that moves us
past both political parties.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
I will agree.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
I will agree with Austin earlier in that I think
this Axio story is more significant than the cover up
of Epstein by far. Yeah, and you know this is
a party. Well, first of all, we're not a two
part I mean we we operate with two major parties
and as a two party system.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
That was never our intent.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
But we have a civil war within one of the
two major parties that is trying to create a civil
war for the entire country. This ends one of two ways, right, Obviously,
this party, it's going to lose itself either as the parasite,
as the host dies, the parasite is going to die
with it, or it's going to lose all credibility or
tolerance from the American people. They either become irrelevant and gone,
(27:05):
or they achieve this civil war. But is there another
outcome that you can think of?
Speaker 3 (27:08):
I can't.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
Well, when you look at history over and over again,
that the groups that have always used chaos to create
anarchy then come in with sotalitarian order. We've never seen
that operation in a technological society like ours, where everyone
can turn on a camera and turn on a phone
and turn on an information flow. So the question is
can you get away with it when everyone's watching? That's
(27:31):
the real challenge, and when people are reporting honestly about it.
But the thing that's really frightening, Michael, that you've put
up in a matrix, My answer is yes for some yes, well,
and that takes us back to what they're defining as
their base. If the base of the Democrat Party are
now the anarchists, they've already lost. They've already lost because
people will not tolerate it.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Now. The irony is that they.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
Think that everyone is so stupid that they can watch
them do exactly what they're accusing their opponents of and say, oh,
for you, it's okay. One of the point we have
preached tribalism in this country for the last twenty to
forty years. We have told people that they are unique
in and of themselves based on things that do not
necessarily make them unique, and that the other people aren't
like you or bad tribalism ends up in tribal wars.
(28:17):
You don't win the Nobel Peace Prize. Telling people that
they're part of a tribe.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Is this as concerning as the Time magazine manifesto?
Speaker 3 (28:28):
What's more so? Yeah? Yeah, they were just getting warmed
up there.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Do they play this card in the midterms, after the
mid terms or leading into the presidential They're desperate.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Momentum is everything.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
You've got to start now to get to twenty six
as you're already behind.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
They can't seem to find a leader, They can't seem
to find a message. Something tells me the prisoners are
running the prison and.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
If they create the environment, then it's sort of like
if you build the chaos, the leader will come.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
That's the game they're playing.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
This as we get ready to start for one year
long focus in celebration on our two hundred and fiftieth birthday,
that all began with a declaration of independence, a declaration
not taught in schools, a declaration not read very often
and apparently completely forgotten. David's and not with the American
Pouse Roundtable host of the Public Square. We'll talk again tomorrow.
We got a bonus visit tomorrow. Thanks Michael.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
It's your Morning Show with Michael Del Journo.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
White House correspondent John Decker is joining us fifty three
minutes after the hour on the air and on your
iHeartRadio app. This is your Morning Show on Michael del Jornim.
I want to start before we get to the Vladimir Putin.
You know, John was just twenty four hours ago. It
seems like five minutes ago. We were talking and I'm
like everybody is. You know, had high hopes when Trump
got elected, had high hopes when Cash Mattel was named
(29:48):
head of the FBI, even higher hopes when Dan Bongino
left his podcast to go work for the FBI. What
a sacrifice he gave up a lot. We're going to
get to the bottom of JFKA, We're gonna get to
the bottom of RFK, We're gonna get to the bottom
of MLK.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
We may even get to the bottom of the Trump assassination.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
And we're sure as heck gonna get to the bottom
of the Epstein investigation. And then just all swept under
the rugs. So we said, well, here comes the cabinet meetings.
Someone's gonna ask him about it, and The President's response was,
are you serious you care about this goofball Epstein when
we've got suffering in Texas and all the good things
were now suddenly we're not even supposed to care. That
(30:26):
was not the response I was expecting.
Speaker 8 (30:30):
Yeah, you know, the President, you seem like a touched
a nerve there, right with that one particular question coming
from my colleague Steven Nelson at the New York Post.
And you know, I don't know why you just answered
the question and you move on, you know, and you
respond to questions.
Speaker 9 (30:46):
That I think was a very fair question. A lot
of people have questions like you do, Michael.
Speaker 8 (30:50):
About Epstein, and so yeah, I was surprised by that
reaction coming from the President yesterday.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Well why is I mean, let's give Prince Andrew Beeca
his stripes. You know, there's just so then and then
what do we get in the end? Oh, the one
minute gap in the film that happens every twenty four hours.
He just timed his suicide perfect, and he liked a
lot of sheets. But I mean, you know, and then
there's no black book, there's no flight log. And then
I even had one listener who was and I'm not
(31:16):
bashing the listener. He's just like, you know, Michael, you're
making a big deal all of this.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Nobody really thinks about Epstein.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Well, you know that's not true if we had presidents
compromised and being blackmailed, or we had presidents having sex
with underage children, just like it matters if Joe Biden
wasn't really president and someone was abusing an autopend. This
stuff matters, I think, I hope.
Speaker 9 (31:39):
Well, you know, it matters.
Speaker 8 (31:41):
It matters to people like you and others, and you know,
it's the reason why you got to just be up front,
answer those questions and be you know, upfront about these things,
be transparent about these things.
Speaker 9 (31:54):
And you know when you mentioned some people, Cash could.
Speaker 8 (31:57):
Tell Damn Bongino they had a different view, entirely different
view of the situation regarding Eppstein before they were in
the Trump administration. And you know, I mean, that's what happens.
You fall in line and you follow the lead of
your leader, and that's what they're doing in terms of
their opinions and official actions that they've taken since joining
(32:19):
the Trump administration.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
I always bring it up in this way, Promises made,
promises kept by the President, and I give him praise
words too. There were a lot of promises made about
a lot of these investigations, and now they're trying to
sell us a new one with John Brennan and James
Comby with no credibility because none of these promises have
been kept. All right, not happy with Putin. I don't
think you could have made it more clearly. What is
(32:42):
this and now the weapons going to Ukraine? Your take
on I'm obviously the president effectively isolated Iran. Iran has
been dealt with. This is the president effectively isolating Putin
trying to get.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Well, that's right.
Speaker 8 (32:59):
You know you're heard from Lindsay Graham. He's the chairman
of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, and he indicated that
the President now supports his.
Speaker 9 (33:05):
Sanctions bill against Russia, so.
Speaker 8 (33:07):
That will likely move that bill quickly through Congress and
get to the President's desk for his signature. That sanctions
bill targets Russia where it breathes, and that is oil,
the oil revenue that sustains its war against Russia. You
take away that oil revenue, they can't fight the war.
They can't pay those Russia, those North Korean soldiers that
(33:30):
are fighting the war on behalf of Russia. You know,
by the way, it tells you a little bit about
how weak the Russian military is, that that needs to
rely on North Korea to fight its battle.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Against Ukraine, and that the war.
Speaker 8 (33:41):
For that matter, Russia is a superpower. They say, the
war's gone on for three and a half years, some superpower.
Look what the US did in terms of isolating Iran
one day, one strike, three nuclear missile sites, and that's it.
We don't hear a peep out of Iran. You know,
we are the superpower of the world.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
You just probably answered my My only follow up question
is Eric, so what does this not happy with translate to?
And you think tightening the screws with sanctions that's what's
coming next.
Speaker 8 (34:10):
Yeah, that's right. Yeah, I think that. You know, he's
he's we heard it yesterday. The president, you know, is
tired of the nice conversations as he calls it with
Vladimir Putin that don't lead to any type of change
in behavior, and so now he has to, you know,
support the bill that has strong bipartisan support. By the way,
Michael Whether an eighty senator support that legislation.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
In the Senate. It will likely sail through the House
as well.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
John Decker, Whitehouse Correspondent, great reporting as always.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
That'll do it for today.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
We're all in this together. This is your Morning Show
with Michael ndheld Joo
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