July 28, 2025 • 35 mins
We asked republican consultant and YMS contributor Chris Weber, “What is politically wiser to do with tariff revenues, give means-tested rebates to Americans…or pay down the debt?”
The Artificial Intelligence explosion means millions are paying more for electricity. National Correspondent RORY O’NEILL explains why.
President Trump says he’s now considering a tariff rebate for taxpayers- after getting the idea from White House reporter JON DECKER…we’ll gave Jon a few more ideas to pass along!
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She'll get it started.
Speaker 5 (01:05):
Good morning, Michael. I just wanted to express my disappointment
with Billy Joel. In the second part of the documentary,
he expresses his anger at President Trump over the very
fine people remark Unfortunately he fail for a hoax.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Yeah, I'm glad you got it too. You know, I
saw part one, Part two. It was very moving, very thorough.
It was terrific. That was a down moment, and I
just exercised a level of grace knowing we live in
a matrix, knowing we have a biased legacy media that
lies to the American people, and Billy got caught up
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in one of those lives. I think you processed it right.
I still would encourage people to watch part one and
part twos. It's a terrific Greek tragedy of a life
if you will, and I think there's a lot you'll
take away from it. You'll never listen to the music
the same. Sure Ben is in Phoenix.
Speaker 6 (02:01):
As far as a rebate concerned, I agree you shouldn't
get a rebate, but better yet, maybe he should just
let us write off the interest on credit cards for
this year, since credit cards has really brought this country
down and put us in big debt.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Individually, well, I.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Think I think people have used credit cards in four
oh one k's to pay for inflation and everything we've
been through. That's not a bad idea at all. Then,
it's actually a great idea. I like it better than
rebate Joe's and PA.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Good morning, Michael.
Speaker 7 (02:32):
I also think of the Bible verse of give a
man a fish, he eats for a day, Teach a
man to fish, and he eats for a week. I
think we should pay down the debt. The tariffs are
coming in, lower taxes, get the interest rate down, and
we'll be able to survive for the rest of our lives.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
I don't know where Perry's from, but guess what he's here.
Speaker 8 (02:55):
Good luck to President Trump eating the debt down. When
you're luck talking about these, say the right wing and
the left wing or connect to the same money hungry,
spanding swamp and culture.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
A vulture with a left and a right wing. Gotta
love that. Bell and Tampa will give you the final say.
Speaker 9 (03:13):
Good morning, Michael. Nobody's going to go to prison over
the Russia Russia hoax They're not even going to be charged.
They'll be brought in for some stupid questioning and it'll
never lead anywhere. They all need to stand for high treason.
And until that happens, I've lost all confidence in our government.
Speaker 10 (03:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
I don't know about Komy, and certainly you get presidential
immunity with Obama. But I do think Brennan is low
hanging fruit, and I do think if they assign a
special prosecutor, I mean, it's up to the Justice Department.
Some of you probably have a pretty negative view of
Pam Bonding now over the Epstein stuff, although that's not
in totality understood. But I think the Justice Department should
(03:55):
take these findings, maybe put a special prosecutor in charge
of this, yes, and restore the American people's trust and
do whatever they can to ensure it never happens again.
All things Republican now with Chris Walker. He is a
Republican consultant and analyst, and he is a your morning
show contributor and regular every Monday. So our White House
correspondent John Decker made some news by asking the President
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before he leaves for Scotland, should we take all these
investments and this tariff revenue and give a rebate to
the people. The President on the fly says, that's not
a bad idea, and we've thought about that mainly I
want to pay down the debt.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
So it begs the question, there.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Is the wise leadership thing to do, and then there
is a little political what we call in nolins Land
yet opportunity. Should the president resist that opportunity and just
pay down the debt with this revenue and continue to
create a great American economy.
Speaker 11 (04:54):
In a word, yes, Good morning, Michael, good morning. You know,
we know politics is very easy to try to go
for the short term win. President Trump has generally been
working on the big issues and we've seen it in
court cases and we've seen it in you know, kind
of trying to trying to move the Overton window more
(05:16):
a little more right word than we've seen over the
last thirty five forty years. And that's that's not a
that's not easy thing. And I agreed with one of
your one of the callers as.
Speaker 10 (05:24):
I was listening.
Speaker 11 (05:25):
You know, look, Washington, both Republican and Democrat have a really, really,
really bad record at trying to tackle the debt.
Speaker 10 (05:34):
But we have a huge debt problem.
Speaker 11 (05:36):
And obviously I've heard the talking point in the last
couple of months of you know, we just get to
twenty nineteen pre COVID levels, everything will be fine. I mean,
we had a huge spending problem before COVID. I mean,
COVID put it on rocket fuel.
Speaker 10 (05:47):
But you know, the federal government is incredibly.
Speaker 11 (05:49):
Out of out of alignment of of you know, kind
of where it needs to be. So from a standpoint
of of the revenue, it's easy to quickly take that
credit card and extended for another, you know, another loan,
and I just that's not the right thing for the
health of a country long haul. We have an incredible,
big debt bomb coming in this country and we have
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to tackle it. It's not going to be pretty, it's
not going to be pleasant, but it's the necessary medicine
to keep this country humming in the right direction. Long
term growth is better than a short term political win.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Yeah, I mean, just with Japan and the European Union,
and I want to cover that with you because that's
the big news of the day. But I mean you're
looking at two trillion alone in additional revenue just an
investment that's not even tariff revenue, you know, start getting
the debt headed in the right direction. It's the complement
to doge. It's the compliment to what Congress, and it's
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their job to do intends to do. If the American
people keep the Republicans in control and cutting spending over
the next decade, that's what will turn all those CBO
projections on their head, because the President has a big,
beautiful bill which holds the tax cuts in place, it
cuts spending. Con risk builds on that, and then if
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you're worried about revenue, you've got all this revenue for
the tariff deal. He really has been playing four dimensional
chess and he's pretty much got it to checkmate. What
do you make of this European deal? Again, like Japan,
there's seven hundred and fifty in purchase of energy billion,
There's six hundred billion in addition to what they're already
investing in America, the buying of military fifteen percent tariff.
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Think aboutiblebiles alone in that list of things coming from Europe,
and then opening up markets for US to trade there
at a zero percent tariff. I mean, in the art
of the deal, could you possibly craft it a better deal?
Speaker 11 (07:38):
It sounds like a good one, you know, to devil's
in the details on that, and I assume what we're
reading is accurate, and so I'll leave it to you know,
the economists to kind of point those out. I do
think that that is overall the correct arc.
Speaker 10 (07:53):
You know, I'm.
Speaker 11 (07:54):
Personally skeptical on tariff still. I don't think that they're
a long term better solution in a global economy.
Speaker 10 (07:59):
But we'll see how this all is all shakes out
over time.
Speaker 11 (08:02):
But you know, going back to the earlier point too,
I think one thing, one thing to remind you know,
any family that's dealing with debt, you know, we know
that it's a it's a choke hold on any family,
keeps people away from making financial independence and financial decisions.
America is having that same issue. So the president kind
of working on revenue deals and creating investment in the
country is a tremendously great, great thing to kind of
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move the country in the right direction. So, I mean,
I think the deals he's making.
Speaker 10 (08:28):
Is one step of that.
Speaker 11 (08:29):
I also think working on solving the debt crisis is
a second.
Speaker 10 (08:33):
Piece of that.
Speaker 11 (08:33):
But you know, all these deals are sounding incredibly positive.
Let's see how they all work out over time, you know,
establishing a twenty year kind of roadway for economic growth,
and you know, country partnerships is a strong way to show,
you know, what growth can do to heal any kind
(08:55):
of economic strife. For seeing right now, that's not kind
of starting to bubble up, you know, in various forms.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Republican analyst and consultant Chris Walker joining us as he
does as a contributor every Monday, America really is. I
don't think they've you know, I always talk about the
questions we never asked out loud. What is the role
of the government, What is the proper size of the government,
What are the priorities of the government, Why does it
even exist? What is the personal role and responsibility of
(09:21):
the self governed? Self governed is something we never even
talk about anymore. Are we a land of opportunity or entitlement?
I mean, you want to talk about an overton, You know,
that's all been shifted. We are basically as a people
enslave to the government's debt. That's why taxation has grown
to what it's grown to. That we work until August
(09:43):
almost until we start working for ourselves. So for eight
months a year we're enslaved to the government's debt, and
about another two and a half months, we're enslaved to
our own debt. I mean, when are we ever really
living this American dream? It all has to be addressed.
And I will say this, this is the first time
I've seen it addressed in.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
A long time.
Speaker 10 (10:04):
I think that's abjector right.
Speaker 11 (10:05):
I mean, President Trumps has the freedom politically and not
really have to worry about an election again, except for
the fact that you know we obviously you mentioned it
really well earlier. I mean, there are midterms comme out
next year, and this can be incredibly important both for
his legacy and for the continued long term health of
the country. There's a lot of stake next year in
the midterms. However, you know, the President really kind of
(10:28):
tackling these issues for you know, in a good way.
Speaker 10 (10:30):
I mean, look, his.
Speaker 11 (10:30):
Business acumen is correct, and look that, let's not forget it,
in nineteen ninety one or so, he was nine hundred
million dollars in debt himself.
Speaker 10 (10:38):
He knows what that means to.
Speaker 11 (10:40):
Be, you know, on the wrong side of a ledger.
And so from his business acumen, his business perspective and
his ability to cut deals I think are all incredibly
useful to the to the growth and the benefit of
the country. I mean, we're kind of in an interesting
time where a non politician is actually leading in a
way that the politicians are kind of fodeling. You know,
(11:00):
Congress's Mia Congress continues to not have any real, you know,
function other than to be a rubber stamp or thankfully
what President Trump is doing. But we saw it during
Biden there were the exact opposite. So you know, from
a standpoint of of who's setting the agenda and where
it's going, President Trump taking the time to kind of
really focus on an America First agenda where you know,
(11:22):
revenue and expenses are coming in and compaying down debt
is the right play. You know, that's the long term
strategy that needs to be done. Let's see if the
political kind of will is there to help support him
to do it.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
You know, I always bring up this Old Testament scripture
brings out for me because I grew up New Orleans.
We were protected by levies every day, and then when
we weren't, you saw Katrina and the devastation. But the
Old Testa scripture is when the enemy comes in like
a flood, and certainly the left, in their quest to
save democracy, came in like a flood.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
God raises a standard against them.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
I look back at this, there's no way Donald Trump
could have gotten all this done if you'd just naturally
gone from his first turn into his second. It almost
really backfired on the left everything they've done.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Can you imagine?
Speaker 3 (12:06):
And by the way, the worst part of this for
the left is he may have wrapped up everything by Christmas,
where he can spend all next year campaigning on that
midterm map. I mean, that's the worst nightmare for them
as a special prosecutor, is revealing everything that they did.
(12:27):
I just can't imagine this have have played out the
way it did without the way having that four years
of Biden in between.
Speaker 10 (12:36):
I think that's exactly right.
Speaker 11 (12:37):
I mean, he's got a you know, a new lease
on a second first term, and you know the strength
and power that comes with it. We've seen forever that
you know, second terms usually are are weekend firms. Most
peop are kind of waiting at president out and you
know you lose the seas at Congress. I don't think
(12:58):
that's the political case this time. He's really reset the
conversation again as he a force. Trump is the once
in one hundred year of force. I mean, goodness, gracious,
he has changed so many pieces of our political landscape
and our political life, and you know we're still keep
catching up with that. This is another one dismissing the
(13:19):
you know, conventional wisdom narrative of a week second term.
Speaker 10 (13:23):
You know, I believe firmly that we're very competitive in
midterms next year, which that would not be the case normally.
Speaker 11 (13:30):
I think Elon buying Twitter certainly has a piece of
that as well. That the media, the media and setting
itself on fire is certainly helping President Trump on this
as well. But you know, all of these things are
evident from people who are paying attention. Saw probably the
worst presidency we've seen in a long time. I mean,
Jimmy Carter excluded, I think Biden is probably worse. And
(13:51):
people are seeing this. I mean, we look, it's all
en capsulated from the Democrats tweet last week. And I
know Twitter is not a real place a lot of times,
but they put out that tweet talking about grocery prices
that literally so that all of them raised during the
Pipe administration.
Speaker 10 (14:02):
I mean, that's the.
Speaker 11 (14:03):
Democrats only strives me is to kind of point out
their own failures and hope that people think it's President Trump's.
Speaker 10 (14:09):
They certainly an interesting time.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
They have their worst map ahead of them with no
party leader, and if there is one, it's AOC and
she's not radical enough and anti Israel enough, and the
birthing of an Islamic sect party coming out of the
Democrat Party along with the socialists. So they couldn't be
more divided. They couldn't be in a weaker state with
no leader, no message, no credibility and everything that President
(14:34):
Trump's building on.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
It, you know, and then that gives.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
You two years of follow through for a Republican controlled
Congress to really get things done on spending cuts. So
if his goal was to make America great again, he's
certainly on track. And for the left, they're off the rails.
So you got a lot, you know, going for you.
I sure hope the party doesn't blow it. I don't
(14:59):
I don't think. I don't anticipate that they will.
Speaker 11 (15:03):
I agree. Now it's time to go sing some Billy
Joel and the karaoke, so you know we're ready to go.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Oh, it really was a great.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Uh, it's it's like two hours each part one, in
part two, and yeah, there is the one he got
duped on the South Carolina narrative from the left media.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
But you know, here, here's a what.
Speaker 11 (15:22):
My go to is, and it's always piano man, So
you know, I'm I'm a.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Village old fan, New York state of mind.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Piano man, innocent man, Alan Town. I can't really go
past that. I mean, I could never distinguish one of those,
but I think it's restaurant.
Speaker 10 (15:41):
But that's a six and a half minute song.
Speaker 11 (15:42):
So it's just it's hard to it's hard to sing
it and have the bar stay with.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
What's beautiful is what those songs and that treasured library
and influence is meant to us all these years in
our mind and in our experience. After you watch four
hours of this documentary, you will never hear those songs
again the same. You know the story about his father,
and you know that's that's what makes it.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
You know, songs like.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Oh no, I'm blank on the name of it, the Vienna,
But you know you'll you'll never hear these songs the
same after hearing the stories behind them, because he literally
wrote straight from his life all right.
Speaker 12 (16:19):
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Enjoy.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Can't have your morning show without your voice. What He's
in Arizona listening to Kate f Yi. I'd revised that
number of protesters that showed up down by two because
the two in the front row weren't even listening.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
They were holding the conversation. Somebody looked up the video.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Yeah, I mean Fox was I mean, you talk about embarrassing,
and when they were referring to it as twenty protesters,
it was bad enough.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
But I looked at the video and counted it.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
I could thirteen with the speaker, fourteen with the speaker
and the cameraman not you know, no impression would have
been better than that bad If you think Stephen Colbert's
ratings are bad, those trying to blame his firing on
Donald Trump were even lower.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Dallas is in Tampa.
Speaker 10 (17:38):
Good morning, Michael. You know you've done it this time.
My son and I.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
Watched Happy Go More Part two this weekend and loved
every minute that would just laughed their butts off.
Speaker 10 (17:47):
But yeah, you say you don't like it.
Speaker 9 (17:49):
So I'm sorry, but you've gone too far and I
just can't listen to you anymore.
Speaker 10 (17:53):
Michael. It's a holy matrix.
Speaker 12 (17:56):
I'm sorry, I'm just kidding, belaving Michael having a day.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
Oh, I love you too. So that was Randy actually
from Indiana.
Speaker 10 (18:01):
That's just there.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
Yeah, I didn't get it.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Sorry, there were a lot of cameos, and you know,
but all right, Dallas and Tampa real quick.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Then we'll get to worry.
Speaker 13 (18:08):
Hey, Michael, not only are we enslaved to the government
via taxes, but we're in slade to the Central Bank.
Speaker 10 (18:14):
Why do we not own our money?
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Why do the American people not own the money supply?
Speaker 10 (18:21):
Why is it a private bank that owns our money?
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Oh, the questions we never ask, Therefore the answers we'd
never get. Keep those calls coming. You'll find a little
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Speaker 4 (18:39):
It deserves your voice. Thank you, all three callers.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
All right, roy o'neils here, Artificial intelligence, the explosion. And
by the way, when we say explosion, it hasn't even
happened yet, all right, so you know you don't even
have your arms around the beginning of where it's ultimately heading.
And already we're all going to pay more for electricity
(19:02):
because we're paying for the AI that's sucking it up.
Roy o'neils here with the details. Good morning, Rory, Yeah,
Good morning Michael.
Speaker 13 (19:08):
These computer farms are essentially going up everywhere, and in
many cases, AI companies are specifically looking at states that
have the electricity supply and the grid that can handle
these juice sucking computer machines, right and these warehouses that
are filled up them. But what we're seeing though, is
(19:29):
that even as they build these facilities and the electricity
may be there, it does cost the utilities more, and
the utilities are sharing those costs with all customers, not
just the new AI data center. So, especially along the
East Coast, we're seeing some utility rates go up. Maybe
it's ten or fifteen bucks a month, But people are saying,
(19:50):
why am I spending two hundred and fifty bucks more
on electricity each year to offset investments by the richest
companies in the planet like Google and an Amazon.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
This would be what perhaps one of the unattended consequences
that hadn't been anticipated.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
But here's a question.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
And I feel safe doing this because Rory geor Joe
we joke, he's a no it all and so I
this is really But I mean, if I'm an answer,
I'm an answer at all. May be, but I am
an answer, you're an answer at all. But I mean
we haven't even gotten into quantum computing, which is where
I mean. I have said this a million times and
(20:28):
nobody hears it when I say AI is beta. It's
not even VHS, all right, this isn't even where we're added.
If this is the strain with AI, does the quantum
computing make it even worse?
Speaker 13 (20:43):
And that yeah, a lot of these data centers are
actually building their own power supplies, right, They're buying acres
of land and putting in solar panels or wind turbines, which,
by the way, if you saw President Trump's rant on
wind turbines in Scotland yesterday's pretty funny. Some have suggested
nuclear power.
Speaker 10 (21:00):
There's one.
Speaker 13 (21:01):
They're actually using used Tesla batteries, the old batteries from
the old cars. They're bringing them in to try to
help stabilize their power generation and power usage. So a
lot of different things are happening. We're hoping there's some
technology breakthrough that lowers the energy needed for all this
computing power. That's a possibility out there, but these AI
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companies know that it's the states that have the capacity
and the grid that are the sweet spot.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
And I'm looking.
Speaker 13 (21:30):
You know, in Tennessee, the kilowatt hour price is up
ten point eight percent year over year.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
I'm not going to blame all that on AI, but.
Speaker 13 (21:38):
It's just to show you that these prices for utilities
are getting higher for everybody.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Yeah, then you add your electric car to that. Then
you add what we're having, which is a ridiculously hotter
summer than normal and air conditioning costs. And we haven't
even gotten to the quantum computing yet. All Right, We're
going to keep an eye on this, and we have
ben Ry appreciate the great work on that. Do you
have the grid? And even if you have the grid,
what source of power? And even if you have the
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grid and you choose the right source of power, how
much more are we going to pay for all of this?
That it's still at its infant stage, and we're going
to have a long conversation with David Sanaudi about where
a lot of this is headed. The analogy I used
was we had to go do some banking with Nick
and get something notarized, and it was time to do
the signature. Do you know the young people don't even
(22:24):
have a signature. Do you remember how much time we
spent in school with those pieces of paper with the
two solid lines and the dotted line in the middle,
doing penmanship, and it mattered. Well, they don't write anymore. Okay,
so you don't write anymore. Now you don't have a signature.
I get it. You're a sign of the times. And
you would probably tell your teachers I don't have to
(22:45):
have penmanship. I'm going to do everything on my phone
or on my computer. Okay, And now you're writing is
going to be AI And then how long before. I
don't really need original thought anymore. That's why I have AI.
I don't need to take these tests and memorize this
information because I'm just going to use AI someday. And
(23:05):
we all know that argument. But at the end of
the day, it's kind of like with the analogy. And
I really believe this, and Jeffrey's an example of it too.
When I started on the radio with two minute songs
on oldies. While the song was playing, I'm recording callers,
and then as soon as I'm done, I got a
white grease pencil and a razor blade. I'm editing that,
(23:27):
queuing it up and playing it over the next intro.
You don't think that gave me a distinct advantage over
this generation that's been digitally editing all along. To have
done it physically makes a substantial difference in how I
do it digitally. Now I can do a lot more,
and I can do it a lot faster, but I
would never trade the origins of doing it literally first.
(23:51):
I was thinking the other day about people that have
influenced me. A caller had mentioned I think I was
struggling to remember crossing the switchblade, and he brought up
David Wilkerson and leading cruise to christ and how he
went from a gang member to a great minister.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
And that got me thinking.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
I was in the jacuzzi after the show and I'm
thinking of the influences in my life, and I was
thinking of David Wilkerson, I was thinking of Leonard Ravenhill,
I was thinking of Watchman me and I'm thinking all
these different people with thought, Well, AI will eliminate those voices.
You'll end up with one thought AI. And how tragic
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is that. I mean, nobody really knows where all this
AI is heading. The only thing we really do know
for sure is there's going to be There isn't an
acceptance in and embracing right now. And you're inviting it in,
but you know in totality what you're inviting in, because
once this is out of the toothpaste too, there's no
getting it back in. And probably one of the most
(24:56):
alarming early red flags is what you're going to pay
for energy and you're not even using it. And do
we even have the grid and the capacity for what
it will do, let alone the jobs that might replace
It's a big topic. It's one we better start discussing
a little more thoroughly. Biggest story of the day for
(25:20):
me AOC headline out of the UK Telegraph. Again, you
got to go across the pond to get the truth
about American politics. And we used to always say behind
every headline is the story, Behind every story.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
There's so much to talk about. This is our one
on one time.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
The headline is AOC isn't radical enough for the anti
Israel left. It's a sinister sign of the future. The
left in America has become so crazy that not even
AOC appears to be crazy enough and left enough at
a time where they should be pivoting back towards the
American people. They're incapable because half their party is trying
(25:59):
to take them over. And now that half that has
almost successfully completed the job as a parasite of killing
the host, which will kill the parasite and the host
and destroy the party. Here comes a new faction. Remember
when we talked about throughout the twenty twenty four presidential
campaign the left's eye problem Israel.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
Well, this is an extension of that.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Has the left become even too far left than the
people who created the leftist movement. AOC funds genocide and Gaza.
A sign posted outside a Bronx campaign office. An anti
Israel group called Boogie Down Liberation Front took responsibility. The
(26:47):
BRONX is sick and tired of people like AOC using
us as a stepping stone for their own political careers.
Apparently they see the torch has been passed from Bernie
Sanders to her. AOC is the new socialist presidential candidate.
Jasmine Crockett is the new AOC, and they're not Islamic enough.
(27:14):
She maintains she still believes Israel is committing genocide, but
that it should be denied defensive weapons. Well that's not
enough for the extreme faction, breaks telling me, I gotta
take a break, cutting to the chase. This is a
kakkadoodle do. One of two things is gonna happen moving forward.
(27:36):
AOC and the Socialist Democrat Justice Movement is going to
adopt the Islamic stances, or they're going to maintain the
socialist lane, not be anti Israel, not pro Islamic enough,
and you're gonna have, probably with Mom Donnie as the
seed the creation of the Islamic Party. As Lieutenant Colonel
James Carafano predicted by the end of the decade. I
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predicted the Democrat Party and maybe and the Republican Party
will both be gone by the end of the decade.
I think it's pretty clear the Democrat Party is heading
to extinction, just factioning off into what is probably a
third of its party being socialist, and then maybe five
percent of its party that is Islamist. That alone makes
(28:19):
three minor parties. You no longer have a two party system.
And I don't even know what the Republican Party becomes
post Donald Trump, as we've often said, some kind of
a morphing of the Reagan Revolution, very conservative part of
the party, with the Tea Party movement, which is focused
on the debt, with MAGA, which is focused on peace
(28:41):
through strength, secured borders, prosperous economy, limited government, MAGA. Don't
even know if the Republican Party, it may still have
its name, but I think it's become trump Ism. And
Democrat Party I think will be gone. Will there be
an Islammic party. This is one of those earth pains,
and now you're seeing it. They know the Socialists are
(29:03):
going to run AOC, they know she's going to be
the early leader. They know the Democrat DNC is going
to try to cut another deal like they did with Kamo,
like they did with Biden, like they did with Hillary.
But now you're seeing the formation of an Islamist party
in America. And remember that's a form of government and
a system of life anathetical to our constitutional representative platforms.
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Keep an eye on this one or not whistling Dixie
on this it's coming.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
It's your Morning show with Michael del Chorno.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Well, the big story far and away is the President
has the framework for a deal with the European Union
and it's twenty seven nations. It opens up trade to
the European Union, zero percent levy. All trade coming from
these twenty seven nations has a fifteen percent teriff on it.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
That includes automobiles. That's a cha chain.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Then in addition to that, like with the Japanese deal,
you have the EU agreeing to buy seven hundred billion
dollars seven hundred and fifty billion dollars worth of energy
and vest six hundred billion more than they're already investing,
and continue to buy military purchase. So we start with
the big beautiful deal and doze and cutting spending and
securing the border. Now two really big beautiful trade deals. Well,
(30:24):
that leads to this question before the President left where
this deal was cut, and I want you to listen.
Speaker 11 (30:30):
Do you think there's the possibility of a rebate to
the American.
Speaker 7 (30:34):
Public in terms of all of that money?
Speaker 3 (30:36):
We're thinking about that.
Speaker 6 (30:37):
Actually, we have so much money coming in we're thinking.
Speaker 10 (30:41):
About a little rebate. But the big thing we want to.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Do is pay down debt.
Speaker 10 (30:45):
So we're thinking about a rebate.
Speaker 11 (30:47):
That is a very good puy.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
I just made a lot of news.
Speaker 10 (30:51):
We're thinking about a.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Rebate because we have so much money.
Speaker 13 (30:54):
Coming in for tariff that is tariffs.
Speaker 6 (30:57):
That's a little rebate for people of this nickcum.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
Level might be very nice.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Well, let's see if he can fit through the phone line.
John Decker, the White House correspondent who asked that question.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
You did you made big beautiful news this week weekend?
Speaker 10 (31:13):
I did? I did? You know?
Speaker 14 (31:14):
It's a question that I had been preparing to ask
the President.
Speaker 10 (31:18):
I've thought about this idea.
Speaker 14 (31:20):
If there's so much money, tens and tens of billions
of dollars coming into the treasury, why shouldn't the American
taxpayer benefit from the president's tariff's policy? And the president
you saw you heard, really likes that idea. The White
House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt came up to me afterwards
and she said, that's a brilliant idea.
Speaker 10 (31:40):
I'm telling Stephen Miller.
Speaker 14 (31:42):
The deputy White House Chief of Staff, to run with
this idea. And in fact, just within an hour after
I asked that question and the President answered it, Josh Holly,
Republican senator from Missouri, said he's introducing legislation when the
Senate comes back from its August recess in September, along
these lions, trying to provide a tariff reebaycheck to the
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American text payer.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
I don't want to make you the story, but you
asked the question. I don't know. I was watching it.
I'm looking at do you think.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
The President really was thinking about this or do you
think you gave him the idea?
Speaker 14 (32:17):
Well, based upon what Caroline Levitt told me, they had never.
Speaker 10 (32:21):
Thought about this idea.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
That's what I'm getting at all.
Speaker 10 (32:24):
And if you look at the President his reaction when
I'm asking the question, you can.
Speaker 14 (32:28):
See the light bulb go off above his head as
I'm asking the question. That's the reason why you know,
I think the President reacted the way he did and
the reason why why it made so much news when
the President said that on.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Friday, Yeah, I I you know, I just wanted to
make sure you get credit for it. It's not to
take a dig at the President, but I think he
was thanking you for the idea more than the question.
I don't like. I like the way he answered on
the fly. Ultimately, I want to pay down the debt,
but I'm going to give it some thought. So and listen,
I've given a thought, and I think there's a political
(33:02):
victory in giving a check. But I don't like at
the end when he talked about to those who need
it the most. Now you're in the means testing business,
you have, we'll picking winners and losers. It's not going
to be enough for anybody anyway. I had a listener
call up earlier and say, I think allowing everybody to
write off their interest on credit card debt, which is
how most people have been paying for inflation, that could
be very smart and wise. But I think paying down
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the debt because I think paying down the debt the
most damaged done to the American people was the creation
of this debt. The nicest thing you can do, and
the best thing you do for them is pay it down.
Plus it's the other key part to like the CBO projections,
which is you start with dose, you start with cutting.
Congress has to do the ultimate cutting over the next
few years, and then you address the revenue and this
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is what pays for it, and so I think he
should stick to that. But it was a great question,
and it's an initial answer, right, So where does it
go from here?
Speaker 14 (33:52):
John, Well, where it goes from here. The power of
the purse resides in Congress. So Congress has to leglate
along these lines. And that's what Josh Hally says he'll
be doing on the Bennett's side, and we'll see who
takes the ball and runs with it on the House side.
But I would not be surprised, you know, if indeed
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the President pursues that policy and provides some relief to
taxpayers who may be paying more as it relates to
the cost of goods because of the president's teris polar.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
We only have twenty seconds closing moments with White House
correspondent John Decker. All right, all indications are Japan huge deal,
twenty seven nations, EU huge deal, that leaves China. If
he completes that third hurdle, he's gone a long way
to dismantling everybody's worst case scenarios.
Speaker 10 (34:41):
Well, that's right.
Speaker 14 (34:42):
I think you're going to see in just a half
hour's time when the market's open, some positive news.
Speaker 10 (34:49):
Coming from the financial markets.
Speaker 14 (34:50):
They like certainty, and this deal with the EU provides
a lot.
Speaker 11 (34:54):
Of certainty for the financial market.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
I'm glad Donald Trump caught up with us and realized
how smart you were.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
Great work, John, We'll talk again tomorrow. We're all in
this together. This is your Morning Show with Michael Del Jorno.
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Speaker 5 (01:05):
Good morning, Michael. I just wanted to express my disappointment
with Billy Joel. In the second part of the documentary,
he expresses his anger at President Trump over the very
fine people remark Unfortunately he fail for a hoax.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Yeah, I'm glad you got it too. You know, I
saw part one, Part two. It was very moving, very thorough.
It was terrific. That was a down moment, and I
just exercised a level of grace knowing we live in
a matrix, knowing we have a biased legacy media that
lies to the American people, and Billy got caught up
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in one of those lives. I think you processed it right.
I still would encourage people to watch part one and
part twos. It's a terrific Greek tragedy of a life
if you will, and I think there's a lot you'll
take away from it. You'll never listen to the music
the same. Sure Ben is in Phoenix.
Speaker 6 (02:01):
As far as a rebate concerned, I agree you shouldn't
get a rebate, but better yet, maybe he should just
let us write off the interest on credit cards for
this year, since credit cards has really brought this country
down and put us in big debt.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Individually, well, I.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Think I think people have used credit cards in four
oh one k's to pay for inflation and everything we've
been through. That's not a bad idea at all. Then,
it's actually a great idea. I like it better than
rebate Joe's and PA.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Good morning, Michael.
Speaker 7 (02:32):
I also think of the Bible verse of give a
man a fish, he eats for a day, Teach a
man to fish, and he eats for a week. I
think we should pay down the debt. The tariffs are
coming in, lower taxes, get the interest rate down, and
we'll be able to survive for the rest of our lives.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
I don't know where Perry's from, but guess what he's here.
Speaker 8 (02:55):
Good luck to President Trump eating the debt down. When
you're luck talking about these, say the right wing and
the left wing or connect to the same money hungry,
spanding swamp and culture.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
A vulture with a left and a right wing. Gotta
love that. Bell and Tampa will give you the final say.
Speaker 9 (03:13):
Good morning, Michael. Nobody's going to go to prison over
the Russia Russia hoax They're not even going to be charged.
They'll be brought in for some stupid questioning and it'll
never lead anywhere. They all need to stand for high treason.
And until that happens, I've lost all confidence in our government.
Speaker 10 (03:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
I don't know about Komy, and certainly you get presidential
immunity with Obama. But I do think Brennan is low
hanging fruit, and I do think if they assign a
special prosecutor, I mean, it's up to the Justice Department.
Some of you probably have a pretty negative view of
Pam Bonding now over the Epstein stuff, although that's not
in totality understood. But I think the Justice Department should
(03:55):
take these findings, maybe put a special prosecutor in charge
of this, yes, and restore the American people's trust and
do whatever they can to ensure it never happens again.
All things Republican now with Chris Walker. He is a
Republican consultant and analyst, and he is a your morning
show contributor and regular every Monday. So our White House
correspondent John Decker made some news by asking the President
(04:19):
before he leaves for Scotland, should we take all these
investments and this tariff revenue and give a rebate to
the people. The President on the fly says, that's not
a bad idea, and we've thought about that mainly I
want to pay down the debt.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
So it begs the question, there.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Is the wise leadership thing to do, and then there
is a little political what we call in nolins Land
yet opportunity. Should the president resist that opportunity and just
pay down the debt with this revenue and continue to
create a great American economy.
Speaker 11 (04:54):
In a word, yes, Good morning, Michael, good morning. You know,
we know politics is very easy to try to go
for the short term win. President Trump has generally been
working on the big issues and we've seen it in
court cases and we've seen it in you know, kind
of trying to trying to move the Overton window more
(05:16):
a little more right word than we've seen over the
last thirty five forty years. And that's that's not a
that's not easy thing. And I agreed with one of
your one of the callers as.
Speaker 10 (05:24):
I was listening.
Speaker 11 (05:25):
You know, look, Washington, both Republican and Democrat have a really, really,
really bad record at trying to tackle the debt.
Speaker 10 (05:34):
But we have a huge debt problem.
Speaker 11 (05:36):
And obviously I've heard the talking point in the last
couple of months of you know, we just get to
twenty nineteen pre COVID levels, everything will be fine. I mean,
we had a huge spending problem before COVID. I mean,
COVID put it on rocket fuel.
Speaker 10 (05:47):
But you know, the federal government is incredibly.
Speaker 11 (05:49):
Out of out of alignment of of you know, kind
of where it needs to be. So from a standpoint
of of the revenue, it's easy to quickly take that
credit card and extended for another, you know, another loan,
and I just that's not the right thing for the
health of a country long haul. We have an incredible,
big debt bomb coming in this country and we have
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to tackle it. It's not going to be pretty, it's
not going to be pleasant, but it's the necessary medicine
to keep this country humming in the right direction. Long
term growth is better than a short term political win.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Yeah, I mean, just with Japan and the European Union,
and I want to cover that with you because that's
the big news of the day. But I mean you're
looking at two trillion alone in additional revenue just an
investment that's not even tariff revenue, you know, start getting
the debt headed in the right direction. It's the complement
to doge. It's the compliment to what Congress, and it's
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their job to do intends to do. If the American
people keep the Republicans in control and cutting spending over
the next decade, that's what will turn all those CBO
projections on their head, because the President has a big,
beautiful bill which holds the tax cuts in place, it
cuts spending. Con risk builds on that, and then if
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you're worried about revenue, you've got all this revenue for
the tariff deal. He really has been playing four dimensional
chess and he's pretty much got it to checkmate. What
do you make of this European deal? Again, like Japan,
there's seven hundred and fifty in purchase of energy billion,
There's six hundred billion in addition to what they're already
investing in America, the buying of military fifteen percent tariff.
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Think aboutiblebiles alone in that list of things coming from Europe,
and then opening up markets for US to trade there
at a zero percent tariff. I mean, in the art
of the deal, could you possibly craft it a better deal?
Speaker 11 (07:38):
It sounds like a good one, you know, to devil's
in the details on that, and I assume what we're
reading is accurate, and so I'll leave it to you know,
the economists to kind of point those out. I do
think that that is overall the correct arc.
Speaker 10 (07:53):
You know, I'm.
Speaker 11 (07:54):
Personally skeptical on tariff still. I don't think that they're
a long term better solution in a global economy.
Speaker 10 (07:59):
But we'll see how this all is all shakes out
over time.
Speaker 11 (08:02):
But you know, going back to the earlier point too,
I think one thing, one thing to remind you know,
any family that's dealing with debt, you know, we know
that it's a it's a choke hold on any family,
keeps people away from making financial independence and financial decisions.
America is having that same issue. So the president kind
of working on revenue deals and creating investment in the
country is a tremendously great, great thing to kind of
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move the country in the right direction. So, I mean,
I think the deals he's making.
Speaker 10 (08:28):
Is one step of that.
Speaker 11 (08:29):
I also think working on solving the debt crisis is
a second.
Speaker 10 (08:33):
Piece of that.
Speaker 11 (08:33):
But you know, all these deals are sounding incredibly positive.
Let's see how they all work out over time, you know,
establishing a twenty year kind of roadway for economic growth,
and you know, country partnerships is a strong way to show,
you know, what growth can do to heal any kind
(08:55):
of economic strife. For seeing right now, that's not kind
of starting to bubble up, you know, in various forms.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Republican analyst and consultant Chris Walker joining us as he
does as a contributor every Monday, America really is. I
don't think they've you know, I always talk about the
questions we never asked out loud. What is the role
of the government, What is the proper size of the government,
What are the priorities of the government, Why does it
even exist? What is the personal role and responsibility of
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the self governed? Self governed is something we never even
talk about anymore. Are we a land of opportunity or entitlement?
I mean, you want to talk about an overton, You know,
that's all been shifted. We are basically as a people
enslave to the government's debt. That's why taxation has grown
to what it's grown to. That we work until August
(09:43):
almost until we start working for ourselves. So for eight
months a year we're enslaved to the government's debt, and
about another two and a half months, we're enslaved to
our own debt. I mean, when are we ever really
living this American dream? It all has to be addressed.
And I will say this, this is the first time
I've seen it addressed in.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
A long time.
Speaker 10 (10:04):
I think that's abjector right.
Speaker 11 (10:05):
I mean, President Trumps has the freedom politically and not
really have to worry about an election again, except for
the fact that you know we obviously you mentioned it
really well earlier. I mean, there are midterms comme out
next year, and this can be incredibly important both for
his legacy and for the continued long term health of
the country. There's a lot of stake next year in
the midterms. However, you know, the President really kind of
(10:28):
tackling these issues for you know, in a good way.
Speaker 10 (10:30):
I mean, look, his.
Speaker 11 (10:30):
Business acumen is correct, and look that, let's not forget it,
in nineteen ninety one or so, he was nine hundred
million dollars in debt himself.
Speaker 10 (10:38):
He knows what that means to.
Speaker 11 (10:40):
Be, you know, on the wrong side of a ledger.
And so from his business acumen, his business perspective and
his ability to cut deals I think are all incredibly
useful to the to the growth and the benefit of
the country. I mean, we're kind of in an interesting
time where a non politician is actually leading in a
way that the politicians are kind of fodeling. You know,
(11:00):
Congress's Mia Congress continues to not have any real, you know,
function other than to be a rubber stamp or thankfully
what President Trump is doing. But we saw it during
Biden there were the exact opposite. So you know, from
a standpoint of of who's setting the agenda and where
it's going, President Trump taking the time to kind of
really focus on an America First agenda where you know,
(11:22):
revenue and expenses are coming in and compaying down debt
is the right play. You know, that's the long term
strategy that needs to be done. Let's see if the
political kind of will is there to help support him
to do it.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
You know, I always bring up this Old Testament scripture
brings out for me because I grew up New Orleans.
We were protected by levies every day, and then when
we weren't, you saw Katrina and the devastation. But the
Old Testa scripture is when the enemy comes in like
a flood, and certainly the left, in their quest to
save democracy, came in like a flood.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
God raises a standard against them.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
I look back at this, there's no way Donald Trump
could have gotten all this done if you'd just naturally
gone from his first turn into his second. It almost
really backfired on the left everything they've done.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Can you imagine?
Speaker 3 (12:06):
And by the way, the worst part of this for
the left is he may have wrapped up everything by Christmas,
where he can spend all next year campaigning on that
midterm map. I mean, that's the worst nightmare for them
as a special prosecutor, is revealing everything that they did.
(12:27):
I just can't imagine this have have played out the
way it did without the way having that four years
of Biden in between.
Speaker 10 (12:36):
I think that's exactly right.
Speaker 11 (12:37):
I mean, he's got a you know, a new lease
on a second first term, and you know the strength
and power that comes with it. We've seen forever that
you know, second terms usually are are weekend firms. Most
peop are kind of waiting at president out and you
know you lose the seas at Congress. I don't think
(12:58):
that's the political case this time. He's really reset the
conversation again as he a force. Trump is the once
in one hundred year of force. I mean, goodness, gracious,
he has changed so many pieces of our political landscape
and our political life, and you know we're still keep
catching up with that. This is another one dismissing the
(13:19):
you know, conventional wisdom narrative of a week second term.
Speaker 10 (13:23):
You know, I believe firmly that we're very competitive in
midterms next year, which that would not be the case normally.
Speaker 11 (13:30):
I think Elon buying Twitter certainly has a piece of
that as well. That the media, the media and setting
itself on fire is certainly helping President Trump on this
as well. But you know, all of these things are
evident from people who are paying attention. Saw probably the
worst presidency we've seen in a long time. I mean,
Jimmy Carter excluded, I think Biden is probably worse. And
(13:51):
people are seeing this. I mean, we look, it's all
en capsulated from the Democrats tweet last week. And I
know Twitter is not a real place a lot of times,
but they put out that tweet talking about grocery prices
that literally so that all of them raised during the
Pipe administration.
Speaker 10 (14:02):
I mean, that's the.
Speaker 11 (14:03):
Democrats only strives me is to kind of point out
their own failures and hope that people think it's President Trump's.
Speaker 10 (14:09):
They certainly an interesting time.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
They have their worst map ahead of them with no
party leader, and if there is one, it's AOC and
she's not radical enough and anti Israel enough, and the
birthing of an Islamic sect party coming out of the
Democrat Party along with the socialists. So they couldn't be
more divided. They couldn't be in a weaker state with
no leader, no message, no credibility and everything that President
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Trump's building on.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
It, you know, and then that gives.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
You two years of follow through for a Republican controlled
Congress to really get things done on spending cuts. So
if his goal was to make America great again, he's
certainly on track. And for the left, they're off the rails.
So you got a lot, you know, going for you.
I sure hope the party doesn't blow it. I don't
(14:59):
I don't think. I don't anticipate that they will.
Speaker 11 (15:03):
I agree. Now it's time to go sing some Billy
Joel and the karaoke, so you know we're ready to go.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Oh, it really was a great.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Uh, it's it's like two hours each part one, in
part two, and yeah, there is the one he got
duped on the South Carolina narrative from the left media.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
But you know, here, here's a what.
Speaker 11 (15:22):
My go to is, and it's always piano man, So
you know, I'm I'm a.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Village old fan, New York state of mind.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Piano man, innocent man, Alan Town. I can't really go
past that. I mean, I could never distinguish one of those,
but I think it's restaurant.
Speaker 10 (15:41):
But that's a six and a half minute song.
Speaker 11 (15:42):
So it's just it's hard to it's hard to sing
it and have the bar stay with.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
What's beautiful is what those songs and that treasured library
and influence is meant to us all these years in
our mind and in our experience. After you watch four
hours of this documentary, you will never hear those songs
again the same. You know the story about his father,
and you know that's that's what makes it.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
You know, songs like.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Oh no, I'm blank on the name of it, the Vienna,
But you know you'll you'll never hear these songs the
same after hearing the stories behind them, because he literally
wrote straight from his life all right.
Speaker 12 (16:19):
Chris, this is Eric from East Liverpool, Howe in my
Morning show is your Morney Show with Michael del Journal.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
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Speaker 4 (16:57):
Enjoy.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Can't have your morning show without your voice. What He's
in Arizona listening to Kate f Yi. I'd revised that
number of protesters that showed up down by two because
the two in the front row weren't even listening.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
They were holding the conversation. Somebody looked up the video.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Yeah, I mean Fox was I mean, you talk about embarrassing,
and when they were referring to it as twenty protesters,
it was bad enough.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
But I looked at the video and counted it.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
I could thirteen with the speaker, fourteen with the speaker
and the cameraman not you know, no impression would have
been better than that bad If you think Stephen Colbert's
ratings are bad, those trying to blame his firing on
Donald Trump were even lower.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Dallas is in Tampa.
Speaker 10 (17:38):
Good morning, Michael. You know you've done it this time.
My son and I.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
Watched Happy Go More Part two this weekend and loved
every minute that would just laughed their butts off.
Speaker 10 (17:47):
But yeah, you say you don't like it.
Speaker 9 (17:49):
So I'm sorry, but you've gone too far and I
just can't listen to you anymore.
Speaker 10 (17:53):
Michael. It's a holy matrix.
Speaker 12 (17:56):
I'm sorry, I'm just kidding, belaving Michael having a day.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
Oh, I love you too. So that was Randy actually
from Indiana.
Speaker 10 (18:01):
That's just there.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
Yeah, I didn't get it.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Sorry, there were a lot of cameos, and you know,
but all right, Dallas and Tampa real quick.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Then we'll get to worry.
Speaker 13 (18:08):
Hey, Michael, not only are we enslaved to the government
via taxes, but we're in slade to the Central Bank.
Speaker 10 (18:14):
Why do we not own our money?
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Why do the American people not own the money supply?
Speaker 10 (18:21):
Why is it a private bank that owns our money?
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Oh, the questions we never ask, Therefore the answers we'd
never get. Keep those calls coming. You'll find a little
microphone on the iHeartRadio app. You press that count you
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at your show.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
It deserves your voice. Thank you, all three callers.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
All right, roy o'neils here, Artificial intelligence, the explosion. And
by the way, when we say explosion, it hasn't even
happened yet, all right, so you know you don't even
have your arms around the beginning of where it's ultimately heading.
And already we're all going to pay more for electricity
(19:02):
because we're paying for the AI that's sucking it up.
Roy o'neils here with the details. Good morning, Rory, Yeah,
Good morning Michael.
Speaker 13 (19:08):
These computer farms are essentially going up everywhere, and in
many cases, AI companies are specifically looking at states that
have the electricity supply and the grid that can handle
these juice sucking computer machines, right and these warehouses that
are filled up them. But what we're seeing though, is
(19:29):
that even as they build these facilities and the electricity
may be there, it does cost the utilities more, and
the utilities are sharing those costs with all customers, not
just the new AI data center. So, especially along the
East Coast, we're seeing some utility rates go up. Maybe
it's ten or fifteen bucks a month, But people are saying,
(19:50):
why am I spending two hundred and fifty bucks more
on electricity each year to offset investments by the richest
companies in the planet like Google and an Amazon.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
This would be what perhaps one of the unattended consequences
that hadn't been anticipated.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
But here's a question.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
And I feel safe doing this because Rory geor Joe
we joke, he's a no it all and so I
this is really But I mean, if I'm an answer,
I'm an answer at all. May be, but I am
an answer, you're an answer at all. But I mean
we haven't even gotten into quantum computing, which is where
I mean. I have said this a million times and
(20:28):
nobody hears it when I say AI is beta. It's
not even VHS, all right, this isn't even where we're added.
If this is the strain with AI, does the quantum
computing make it even worse?
Speaker 13 (20:43):
And that yeah, a lot of these data centers are
actually building their own power supplies, right, They're buying acres
of land and putting in solar panels or wind turbines, which,
by the way, if you saw President Trump's rant on
wind turbines in Scotland yesterday's pretty funny. Some have suggested
nuclear power.
Speaker 10 (21:00):
There's one.
Speaker 13 (21:01):
They're actually using used Tesla batteries, the old batteries from
the old cars. They're bringing them in to try to
help stabilize their power generation and power usage. So a
lot of different things are happening. We're hoping there's some
technology breakthrough that lowers the energy needed for all this
computing power. That's a possibility out there, but these AI
(21:22):
companies know that it's the states that have the capacity
and the grid that are the sweet spot.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
And I'm looking.
Speaker 13 (21:30):
You know, in Tennessee, the kilowatt hour price is up
ten point eight percent year over year.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
I'm not going to blame all that on AI, but.
Speaker 13 (21:38):
It's just to show you that these prices for utilities
are getting higher for everybody.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Yeah, then you add your electric car to that. Then
you add what we're having, which is a ridiculously hotter
summer than normal and air conditioning costs. And we haven't
even gotten to the quantum computing yet. All Right, We're
going to keep an eye on this, and we have
ben Ry appreciate the great work on that. Do you
have the grid? And even if you have the grid,
what source of power? And even if you have the
(22:04):
grid and you choose the right source of power, how
much more are we going to pay for all of this?
That it's still at its infant stage, and we're going
to have a long conversation with David Sanaudi about where
a lot of this is headed. The analogy I used
was we had to go do some banking with Nick
and get something notarized, and it was time to do
the signature. Do you know the young people don't even
(22:24):
have a signature. Do you remember how much time we
spent in school with those pieces of paper with the
two solid lines and the dotted line in the middle,
doing penmanship, and it mattered. Well, they don't write anymore. Okay,
so you don't write anymore. Now you don't have a signature.
I get it. You're a sign of the times. And
you would probably tell your teachers I don't have to
(22:45):
have penmanship. I'm going to do everything on my phone
or on my computer. Okay, And now you're writing is
going to be AI And then how long before. I
don't really need original thought anymore. That's why I have AI.
I don't need to take these tests and memorize this
information because I'm just going to use AI someday. And
(23:05):
we all know that argument. But at the end of
the day, it's kind of like with the analogy. And
I really believe this, and Jeffrey's an example of it too.
When I started on the radio with two minute songs
on oldies. While the song was playing, I'm recording callers,
and then as soon as I'm done, I got a
white grease pencil and a razor blade. I'm editing that,
(23:27):
queuing it up and playing it over the next intro.
You don't think that gave me a distinct advantage over
this generation that's been digitally editing all along. To have
done it physically makes a substantial difference in how I
do it digitally. Now I can do a lot more,
and I can do it a lot faster, but I
would never trade the origins of doing it literally first.
(23:51):
I was thinking the other day about people that have
influenced me. A caller had mentioned I think I was
struggling to remember crossing the switchblade, and he brought up
David Wilkerson and leading cruise to christ and how he
went from a gang member to a great minister.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
And that got me thinking.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
I was in the jacuzzi after the show and I'm
thinking of the influences in my life, and I was
thinking of David Wilkerson, I was thinking of Leonard Ravenhill,
I was thinking of Watchman me and I'm thinking all
these different people with thought, Well, AI will eliminate those voices.
You'll end up with one thought AI. And how tragic
(24:32):
is that. I mean, nobody really knows where all this
AI is heading. The only thing we really do know
for sure is there's going to be There isn't an
acceptance in and embracing right now. And you're inviting it in,
but you know in totality what you're inviting in, because
once this is out of the toothpaste too, there's no
getting it back in. And probably one of the most
(24:56):
alarming early red flags is what you're going to pay
for energy and you're not even using it. And do
we even have the grid and the capacity for what
it will do, let alone the jobs that might replace
It's a big topic. It's one we better start discussing
a little more thoroughly. Biggest story of the day for
(25:20):
me AOC headline out of the UK Telegraph. Again, you
got to go across the pond to get the truth
about American politics. And we used to always say behind
every headline is the story, Behind every story.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
There's so much to talk about. This is our one
on one time.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
The headline is AOC isn't radical enough for the anti
Israel left. It's a sinister sign of the future. The
left in America has become so crazy that not even
AOC appears to be crazy enough and left enough at
a time where they should be pivoting back towards the
American people. They're incapable because half their party is trying
(25:59):
to take them over. And now that half that has
almost successfully completed the job as a parasite of killing
the host, which will kill the parasite and the host
and destroy the party. Here comes a new faction. Remember
when we talked about throughout the twenty twenty four presidential
campaign the left's eye problem Israel.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
Well, this is an extension of that.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Has the left become even too far left than the
people who created the leftist movement. AOC funds genocide and Gaza.
A sign posted outside a Bronx campaign office. An anti
Israel group called Boogie Down Liberation Front took responsibility. The
(26:47):
BRONX is sick and tired of people like AOC using
us as a stepping stone for their own political careers.
Apparently they see the torch has been passed from Bernie
Sanders to her. AOC is the new socialist presidential candidate.
Jasmine Crockett is the new AOC, and they're not Islamic enough.
(27:14):
She maintains she still believes Israel is committing genocide, but
that it should be denied defensive weapons. Well that's not
enough for the extreme faction, breaks telling me, I gotta
take a break, cutting to the chase. This is a
kakkadoodle do. One of two things is gonna happen moving forward.
(27:36):
AOC and the Socialist Democrat Justice Movement is going to
adopt the Islamic stances, or they're going to maintain the
socialist lane, not be anti Israel, not pro Islamic enough,
and you're gonna have, probably with Mom Donnie as the
seed the creation of the Islamic Party. As Lieutenant Colonel
James Carafano predicted by the end of the decade. I
(27:58):
predicted the Democrat Party and maybe and the Republican Party
will both be gone by the end of the decade.
I think it's pretty clear the Democrat Party is heading
to extinction, just factioning off into what is probably a
third of its party being socialist, and then maybe five
percent of its party that is Islamist. That alone makes
(28:19):
three minor parties. You no longer have a two party system.
And I don't even know what the Republican Party becomes
post Donald Trump, as we've often said, some kind of
a morphing of the Reagan Revolution, very conservative part of
the party, with the Tea Party movement, which is focused
on the debt, with MAGA, which is focused on peace
(28:41):
through strength, secured borders, prosperous economy, limited government, MAGA. Don't
even know if the Republican Party, it may still have
its name, but I think it's become trump Ism. And
Democrat Party I think will be gone. Will there be
an Islammic party. This is one of those earth pains,
and now you're seeing it. They know the Socialists are
(29:03):
going to run AOC, they know she's going to be
the early leader. They know the Democrat DNC is going
to try to cut another deal like they did with Kamo,
like they did with Biden, like they did with Hillary.
But now you're seeing the formation of an Islamist party
in America. And remember that's a form of government and
a system of life anathetical to our constitutional representative platforms.
(29:28):
Keep an eye on this one or not whistling Dixie
on this it's coming.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
It's your Morning show with Michael del Chorno.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Well, the big story far and away is the President
has the framework for a deal with the European Union
and it's twenty seven nations. It opens up trade to
the European Union, zero percent levy. All trade coming from
these twenty seven nations has a fifteen percent teriff on it.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
That includes automobiles. That's a cha chain.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Then in addition to that, like with the Japanese deal,
you have the EU agreeing to buy seven hundred billion
dollars seven hundred and fifty billion dollars worth of energy
and vest six hundred billion more than they're already investing,
and continue to buy military purchase. So we start with
the big beautiful deal and doze and cutting spending and
securing the border. Now two really big beautiful trade deals. Well,
(30:24):
that leads to this question before the President left where
this deal was cut, and I want you to listen.
Speaker 11 (30:30):
Do you think there's the possibility of a rebate to
the American.
Speaker 7 (30:34):
Public in terms of all of that money?
Speaker 3 (30:36):
We're thinking about that.
Speaker 6 (30:37):
Actually, we have so much money coming in we're thinking.
Speaker 10 (30:41):
About a little rebate. But the big thing we want to.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Do is pay down debt.
Speaker 10 (30:45):
So we're thinking about a rebate.
Speaker 11 (30:47):
That is a very good puy.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
I just made a lot of news.
Speaker 10 (30:51):
We're thinking about a.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Rebate because we have so much money.
Speaker 13 (30:54):
Coming in for tariff that is tariffs.
Speaker 6 (30:57):
That's a little rebate for people of this nickcum.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
Level might be very nice.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Well, let's see if he can fit through the phone line.
John Decker, the White House correspondent who asked that question.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
You did you made big beautiful news this week weekend?
Speaker 10 (31:13):
I did? I did? You know?
Speaker 14 (31:14):
It's a question that I had been preparing to ask
the President.
Speaker 10 (31:18):
I've thought about this idea.
Speaker 14 (31:20):
If there's so much money, tens and tens of billions
of dollars coming into the treasury, why shouldn't the American
taxpayer benefit from the president's tariff's policy? And the president
you saw you heard, really likes that idea. The White
House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt came up to me afterwards
and she said, that's a brilliant idea.
Speaker 10 (31:40):
I'm telling Stephen Miller.
Speaker 14 (31:42):
The deputy White House Chief of Staff, to run with
this idea. And in fact, just within an hour after
I asked that question and the President answered it, Josh Holly,
Republican senator from Missouri, said he's introducing legislation when the
Senate comes back from its August recess in September, along
these lions, trying to provide a tariff reebaycheck to the
(32:03):
American text payer.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
I don't want to make you the story, but you
asked the question. I don't know. I was watching it.
I'm looking at do you think.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
The President really was thinking about this or do you
think you gave him the idea?
Speaker 14 (32:17):
Well, based upon what Caroline Levitt told me, they had never.
Speaker 10 (32:21):
Thought about this idea.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
That's what I'm getting at all.
Speaker 10 (32:24):
And if you look at the President his reaction when
I'm asking the question, you can.
Speaker 14 (32:28):
See the light bulb go off above his head as
I'm asking the question. That's the reason why you know,
I think the President reacted the way he did and
the reason why why it made so much news when
the President said that on.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Friday, Yeah, I I you know, I just wanted to
make sure you get credit for it. It's not to
take a dig at the President, but I think he
was thanking you for the idea more than the question.
I don't like. I like the way he answered on
the fly. Ultimately, I want to pay down the debt,
but I'm going to give it some thought. So and listen,
I've given a thought, and I think there's a political
(33:02):
victory in giving a check. But I don't like at
the end when he talked about to those who need
it the most. Now you're in the means testing business,
you have, we'll picking winners and losers. It's not going
to be enough for anybody anyway. I had a listener
call up earlier and say, I think allowing everybody to
write off their interest on credit card debt, which is
how most people have been paying for inflation, that could
be very smart and wise. But I think paying down
(33:25):
the debt because I think paying down the debt the
most damaged done to the American people was the creation
of this debt. The nicest thing you can do, and
the best thing you do for them is pay it down.
Plus it's the other key part to like the CBO projections,
which is you start with dose, you start with cutting.
Congress has to do the ultimate cutting over the next
few years, and then you address the revenue and this
(33:45):
is what pays for it, and so I think he
should stick to that. But it was a great question,
and it's an initial answer, right, So where does it
go from here?
Speaker 14 (33:52):
John, Well, where it goes from here. The power of
the purse resides in Congress. So Congress has to leglate
along these lines. And that's what Josh Hally says he'll
be doing on the Bennett's side, and we'll see who
takes the ball and runs with it on the House side.
But I would not be surprised, you know, if indeed
(34:13):
the President pursues that policy and provides some relief to
taxpayers who may be paying more as it relates to
the cost of goods because of the president's teris polar.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
We only have twenty seconds closing moments with White House
correspondent John Decker. All right, all indications are Japan huge deal,
twenty seven nations, EU huge deal, that leaves China. If
he completes that third hurdle, he's gone a long way
to dismantling everybody's worst case scenarios.
Speaker 10 (34:41):
Well, that's right.
Speaker 14 (34:42):
I think you're going to see in just a half
hour's time when the market's open, some positive news.
Speaker 10 (34:49):
Coming from the financial markets.
Speaker 14 (34:50):
They like certainty, and this deal with the EU provides
a lot.
Speaker 11 (34:54):
Of certainty for the financial market.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
I'm glad Donald Trump caught up with us and realized
how smart you were.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
Great work, John, We'll talk again tomorrow. We're all in
this together. This is your Morning Show with Michael Del Jorno.
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