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your morning show online dot com. Or right, we got
some good news and some bad news, or so the
story broke yesterday. The good news is unemployment is staying low.
The bad news is the workforce is shrinking. Is that bad?
Why is that bad? What's causing it? More importantly, how
do we fix it? Say hello to our economist and
(02:50):
money with David Bonson from the Bonson Financial Group. He
also presides over the Dividendcafe at Dividendcafe dot com.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Good morning, David, Welcome morning, Michael. Good to be with you.
Can you believe another week pass by? And here we are?
Times you believe it? Yeah, it seems like it happens
all the time.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
I've always I don't know what your take is on this,
and I defer to your expertise, but I've always found
unemployment numbers and it has something to do with my
personal experience, but I found them almost worthless. You know,
I lived in tuls Oklahoma after Sitko left, and you know,
people would went from two hundred thousand dollars jobs and
three hundred thousand dollars homes and buying fifty thousand dollar
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cars to call.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Centers at ten dollars an hour.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Well, it showed them employed, but that certainly wasn't economically
of any use. So there's employed, there's underemployed, and then
there's leaving the workforce all together. Kind of walk us
through these numbers and how you use them and how
we should.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Yeah, I would say that all of those data points
are important, but they're all measuring something different, and we
have data on all three. The under employment, the so
called YOU six measurement is a very important one, and
it does reflect people with jobs, but also people working
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part time jobs for economic reasons, people working second jobs
for economic reasons. You can get a lot of extra
data to kind of tell the whole story. I don't
think it's that the data is worthless, Michael. I think
it's just that one has to do more than look
at only the headline.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
But you don't have.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
A situation where people lose good paying jobs in masks
and have to replace it with lower paying jobs and
the unemployment rate doesn't go up. I mean in those
types of recessionary situations, the unemployment rate itself will also
be going up. There are plenty of people that won't
(04:53):
go from a two hundred thousand dollars job to a
ten dollars hour job, and they will be unemployed, and
they go through a invention process or whatnot, so you
know that you're right. Sometimes the regional data can be
very bad, like your example, which is when a town
had a disproportionate part of its population employed by one
company that goes under the country's employment might be doing fine,
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but the town might be in a very precarious position.
An example of that that goes beyond just a kind
of Tulsa, Oklahoma.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
You know, the Peoria, Illinois.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
You know where a particular US manufacture or something like
that went down, was when Clinton closed all the bases
in the nineties. You had a lot of places where,
like in southern California, it was a major part of
the US economy, and there was just tens of thousands
of jobs that left, but the rest of the country
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didn't really necessarily know it. Those things will happen, but
I believe we still really do benefit from knowing a
national unemployment level. An underemployment and the rate of growth
of underemployment. That's what's so interesting now is it isn't
that it's abnormally high. It isn't back to like the
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early Obama year level, but six point two percent up
to seven point nine percent. That's a big move and
that's where we are now. And I think that's a
lot of small businesses being impacted by tariffs and then
ultimately the fine I'm sorry for my long answer, but
the final number is the one you brought up, which
is the labor participation. For us, that is by far
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the most important one for those of us who care
about the state of the culture. You know, what is
the state of our society's appetite for work? Because just
as much as measuring availability of jobs matters, I want
to measure availability of workers and that's what the labor
participation force does.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
And that's not a pretty picture.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Yeah, and explain to everybody why you know that's bad?
Speaker 2 (07:02):
All right?
Speaker 1 (07:02):
So you know, so unemployment is steady, okay, good, but
workforce participation is down.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Well, that's not good. And why is that not good?
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Well, there are some who say it's fine because it's
just a matter of baby boomer is retiring. And so
when a baby boomer checks out, they're no longer in
the workforce, so they're not included in the denominator which
is used to measure.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
The unapployment rate.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
But if they're retired and the financially comfortable, who cares
that they've left the labor force? The problem is that
it's untrue that that's all it is about, right.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
And we did have we First of all, we had.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Almost a sixty eight percent labor participation for us. So
what that does is take the people that have a
job or are looking for a job divided by the
total number of employable people, which is basically the US
population minus children, minus disabled.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
And unable to work.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Okay, and so you go from three hundred and thirty
million down to about two hundred and sixty million. And
then the labor participation those who have a job are
looking for a job, is that number divided by let's
call it two hundred and sixty million.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
It's roughly about one hundred and sixty million.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
That's gone from from sixty eight percent to sixty two
percent since the financial crisis. You go, okay, six percent,
that's pretty bad five or six percent, well, five or
six percent by one hundred and sixty million, Okay, that's
basically eight nine ten million people, all right, depending on
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exactly what point in time we're looking at it.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
It's a lot of people.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
And three point one million are twenty five to fifty
four year old men, so there is another million there
are women that we generally assume with that age group
of women leaving the workforce to have children, a participation
force for women is.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
All time high.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
The problem is working age able bodied men leaving the workforce,
and that I don't know how to interpret other than
as a cultural epidemic.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
So I'm trying to think of all the holes in
this and I'll I'll just let you know what's running
through my mind, and then maybe you can sense the
question if one million illegals have deported on their own
volition and deported themselves, plus those that have been removed.
Or a guy has a job and then he has
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also a side hustle. He loses the main job but
still has the side hustle, how do like all those
different factors cloud getting to a clear picture. So because
there's three questions why is it bad? You've answered what's
causing it? You certainly explored a few of them. Most importantly,
how do we fix it? Well, to fix it, we
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got to actually know what's real happening, don't we?
Speaker 2 (10:01):
And I don't know. We got to clear enough picture.
Well the problem.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
The thing is is that when people talk about is
various shifts that could alter the data on the margin.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
What is important to.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Realize is that these are things that have been true
for a long time. The labor participation force dropped way, way,
way before we had all the issues with the border.
The labor participation force dropped before there was such thing
as a so called gig economy. This idea that people
lost the two hundred thousand dollars job, but they're okay
because they're driving an uber as a side hustle that
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gets captured in the underemployment. But to the extent that
it's not perfectly captured, it's still relatively captured. Like if
it was imperfectly captured this year, it was imperfectly captured
last year and the year before, And so the imperfect
capture of the data is still giving us a year
over year trend.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
And so how do we know? Go ahead?
Speaker 1 (10:58):
I was just gonna say, how do we know that
there's not a bunch of thirty five to forty five
year old men who are certainly staying at home because
we know that the female work a participation is way
up and they're getting better and better jobs, higher paying jobs.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I can take out a nephew.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
He's home taking care of the three kids, and his
wife's a VP of marketing for a major sports athletic
department company.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
So I mean, I just don't know how.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
I'm trying to learn how to use all this from
an expert who looks at all.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
But that isn't the data. That's exactly the part of
the data. So in other words, in that case, your
nephew's wife is in the data as employed, and your
nephew is in the data as out of the labor
participation for us.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
So I'm not suggesting that.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Every one of the three point one million men is
some sort of awful situation. Some of them may have
won the lottery, some of them may have bought bitcoin
at two dollars and sold it a high number. I
would suggest, Michael, that three point one million of those
men at in the same time that we've had a
one thousand percent increase in disability claims at the same
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time that we have the largest amount of single men
living with their mommy and daddy in history. I would
suggest that they're not all like your nephew, right, that
those are.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Exceptions, not the rule. I think you just nailed it all, right,
So how do you fix it? Can you fix it
or do you just keep your eye on the main
ball of what is wise in form of in the
form of paying down debt, limited government, you know, creating
an atmosphere where entrepreneurs will take risk, investment will be made,
(12:38):
jobs will be created. I mean, I guess do these
numbers really factor in to the game plan?
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Are they just naturally fix the No, No, they do
not just naturally fix this.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
When you and I first met, it was because my
book Full Time Work in the Meaning of Life had
come out. And what I would suggest that if what
we're talking about fixing is not just data reporting and
some of that stuff, we're trying to get more people
in the workforce, I would suggest that it's not going
to fix itself from government policy. It's not going to
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fix itself from it's not going to fix itself from
anything other than a.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Spiritual, cultural, moral awakening. That work is a good thing.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
And we have too many on the left, and I
would add some on the right that are not understanding
that the purpose of life is not to be removed
from work.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
The purpose of life is not leisure and recreation.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Leisure and recreation are a part of our lives, but
they are for the purpose of recharging our batteries so
that we can get back to the purpose of our life,
which is productive work and having our needs met by
meeting the needs of others. This is not a primarily
a policy issue, It is pribly a spiritual issue.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
I agree completely.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
So if God is the same yesterday, today and forever,
and he created us in his image, and this is
the recipe in God's plan, along with marriage, along with
parenting and other things and being light and darkness and
so on. But if this is his nature and his
call for us, and this is where we're ultimately fulfilled,
and we obey, and He's the same, yesterday, today and forever.
(14:16):
So work is the key to abundant life on earth.
Does it suggest that we won't be just floating on
a cloud doing nothing for eternity as well?
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Yes, not only does it suggest it in all the
things you just said.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
We also know this is true because we know.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
That heaven is the restoration of the garden in a
celestial city, that what God is doing is restoring.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
The endetic conditions he made us in.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
And we know that God made us to work before
Sin entered the world, that Adam and Eve were to
be productive in the garden. So the idea that people
have that they're going to go to heaven and be
on an eternal vacation misses a little bit of the point.
It'll be eternal resty, internal worship, eternal perfection, and it
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will also be eternal work.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
And I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
David Boson, I have to call him my little brother
by age. He is my big brother by mind. And
you know I've always loved this. In addition to owning hotels,
in addition to being the Bonson Financial Group and being
on Fox Business and having the Dividend Cafe, he's also
author of a great book and he's at Theologian to Boot.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
He does all that before nine am. Like the US Army. Hey,
what's on dividend Cafe tomorrow?
Speaker 3 (15:33):
We are doing a special addition on the FED.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Not interest rates, but their balance sheet.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
All this talk about quantitative easing, quantitative tightening, what's going
on with that?
Speaker 2 (15:44):
What should be going on with that? What does it mean?
Speaker 3 (15:46):
A refresher course, as the FED gets ready to meet
in Jackson Hole, we're going to talk about the Fed's
balance sheet as a policy tool, what it means for
Americans financially.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Dividendcafe dot Com comes out tomorrow. We'll talk again next Thursday.
David Bonce and God bless you have a great week.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
God bless.
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Speaker 2 (18:49):
Oh, and it's time for your sounds of the day.
She's gonna get smoked. He's got two and stopped.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
I really don't know what he said at the end
of this, and I don't think he knows what he
said either.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
It's got to be a big misunderstanding.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
I'm always revealing, often entertaining. Here's your sounds the day.
We want to start with the Caroline Lovett. She really
has probably been well, I mean, that's a that's a
fun question right in and of itself. Is she one
of other than Trump, the biggest superstars of this whole
(19:26):
team Trump? She performs at a very high level every day,
and who doesn't love to watch her handle and shred?
A New York Times reporter, well, I won't this just
pop up and stop making my life miserable? Probably the
(19:46):
New York Times trying to stop me. There it is,
got it? Here we go, Caroline Lovett on the New
York Times.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
Listen, why wouldn't Trump just take the call from Putin
while the other leaders were in the room?
Speaker 2 (19:58):
So it would be disrespectful to do that? Why is
it disrespectful?
Speaker 5 (20:01):
With all due respect, only a reporter from the New
York Times would ask a question like that. Sean the
President met with all of these European leaders at the
White House forty eight hours after sitting down with President
Putin on American soil. In fact, there was so much
progress and the readout that was given to these European
leaders immediately following his meeting with President Putin that every
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single one of them got on a plane forty eight
hours later and flew to the United States of America.
And if I could just read for all of you
some of the statements from those European leaders. Yesterday you
had President Zealinski himself saying it was a very good conversation,
It was really good. We spoke about very sensitive points.
The Secretary General Mark Ruda, it was the president only
(20:44):
because of the President that this deadlock was broken, but
with President Putin by starting a dialogue. So these leaders
who this war is in their backyard are very grateful
that the President took that call and that he was
there to provide them with a readout of Russia's things
on this, something that was not done by the previous
administration at all.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
I mean, but again, this is just symptomatic of what
they keep doing, this adversarial coverage. Oh, this is gonna
lead the boots on the ground. It's because they just
can't have Donald Trump, even if it ends a war,
even if it's good for Arnado partners and countries security,
(21:27):
even if it's good ultimately for security, they just can't
have it, not if it's a Trump win. And it's
no different than how they're handling the President being involved
in cleaning up crime in the District of Columbia.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
A great sit down.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
I don't watch very often, but lower Ingram sat down
with the Vice President JD.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Vance.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
They discussed a lot of really important things and it
was very impressive.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Here's one clip from JD.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Of all, how is it a power grab or how
is it a stunt? When we've already declined murders by
thirty five percent of nine days. How many people are
living and breathing today because Donald Trump had the willpower
to say, you know what, we're sick of DC being
a home to lawlessness. We're going to bring some public
order back to the nation's capital. So what I would
say to Gavin Newsomb or to anybody else in some
of these big blue states or big blue cities, is you.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Can have law and order, you.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
Can have commed decency, You can have public spaces that
young families can go to. Again, think a story, Laura,
A couple of years ago. The last time I was
in Union Station, I took my little kids there to
get lunch, and they were being screened at by homeless people.
Not compassionate to the homeless people to let them just
fester when they clearly.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Have mental health problems.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
Not compassionate to young families to not be able to
go into one of America's great public spaces without being
screened at by a person clearly suffering.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
I don't know, well, because they're so anti Trump. They're
so anti Trump, and that's the only thing driving them
that if it makes sense to secure a border as
a sovereign nation, and Donald Trump's leading that securing, you
know what, if they didn't want Donald Trump to be president,
they could have continued to secure that border, but they didn't.
(23:15):
If they didn't want Donald Trump to be president, they
could have been pro law enforcement instead of anti cop
and pro criminal and not even arresting them, or if
they did, let them right back out the front door
to commit more crimes. This is the ongoing narrative.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Now.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
I think the Democrats look foolish and childish and what's
left of a media that nobody cares about. I never
watch ABC Nightly News, I never watch NBC news, CBS News.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Heck, I don't watch CNNMSNBC or Fox News. They're all irrelevant.
That's what we used to do. The joke I see
dead people and they don't know they're dead, and then
they'll throw out a pole. Look, the majority of the
American people are four or I should say this way.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
The majority of the American people believe that Donald Trump
using National Guard in DC will make DC safer. But
then you ask them, should they be there? Oh, of
course not. I mean, it's ridiculous. And there's two facts
that come out in that from JD. Vans people that
are alive today that wouldn't have been. And if you
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don't like the federal government being involved prioritize law and order,
nobody's stopping you but yourselves. Now, Gavin Newsom says he's
gonna he's gonna try to be just like Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
JD. Vance just lamb basted that.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Why because well, Donald Trump said fight fight fight after
being shot in the head and standing up, they're saying fight, fight, fight.
I'm standing against stopping crime, standing against securing the border,
standing against stopping war.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
It just looks ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Well, nobody knows how to quite summarize the ridiculousness like
Stephen Miller does it too.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
They long.
Speaker 6 (25:30):
Of this city has been terrorized by one percent of
the city. And the voice that you hear out there,
those crazy communists, they have no roots, they have no
connections to the city. They have no families they're raising
the city. They have no one that they are sending
some school in the city, they have no jobs in
the city. They have no connections to this community at all.
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But they're the ones who've been advocating for the one percent,
the criminals, the killers, the rapists, the drug dealers, And
I'm glad they're here today. I met Pete and the
Vice president all going to leave here and inspired by them,
We're going to add thousands more resources to this city
to get the criminals and the gang members out of here.
We're going to dismandle those networks, and we're going to
(26:12):
grew that a city can serve for the law abiding
citizens who live there.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
And I might add in that poll, I suggested half
the voters expect crime to decline, so they know how
bad crime is and they know that policies are causing it.
These are blue cities in blue states with blue narrativised
(26:38):
policies that are failing its citizens and the number one
priority of any municipal, county, or state or federal government
security for its people. Nobody wants to live words unsafe,
nobody wants to go to school wards unsafe, and a
majority say, oh yeah, they'll definitely lower crime, and then
included thirty nine percent who strongly leave. They expect crime
(27:01):
to decline, so they know it to work. But then
you go to should they be doing it? And you
get the complete matrix response, And if you break it
down by Republicans versus Democrats, you get the partisan response.
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Can't do right, not if it's going to benefit shirts.
I mean, we play for skins. And that's your talk
Sounds of the Day, Now for your top five stories
of the day. The Jeffrey Epstein grand jury records will
remain just as I said they would sealed.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Mark Mayfield has that story, but.
Speaker 7 (27:44):
Jud JO on Wednesday deny the Justice Department's bid to
get the records unsealed. That led to Epstein being indicted
on sex trafficking charges. Public interests in the case reignited
after the Justice Department announced that Epstein did not have
a client list and confirm the sex offender's deaths.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
The suicide evidence.
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That was seen and heard by grand jury's is not
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President Trump ordered Attorney General Pam Bondi to get court
approval to release the grand jury material.
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more than three billion copies and it's eighty five year history.
I'm Michael Cass.
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The kids are back in school. The kids are back
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Hill's pet nutritions as animals get depressed when kids go
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Well, the Cubs have taken three out of four from
the Brewers. So with the Brewers went like thirteen games
in a row and then had that streak snapped by
the Reds, and then the Cubs have taken three out
of four with one more to go. So it was
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It's your morning show. With Michael del Chorno.
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We had a long conversation not to do a shameless
plug for the podcast, but about the left root and
for the left, the right rooting for the right, who's
rooting for America? And this hyperpartisanship and it's far more
prevalent in the media than it is among everyday Americans.
And so there's this uncertain future for the Democrats. There
(31:49):
are or with themselves with the socialist portion of their party,
maybe a new Islamist portion forming. They're losing a key
voting blocks and now the registration down four point five
millionaires in New York Times to the story on today.
So there's a big fade there, not just in registration
but in people wanting to identify with that party. For
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the Republican Party, just as big of a challenge are
people going to be excited about going back to being
establishment Republicans after Donald Trump?
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Who knows?
Speaker 1 (32:19):
And maybe the best name was the one that Elon
Musk created for a third party he was going to create,
but not so much anymore.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Your morning show correspondent Roy O'Neil is here.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Whatever happened to Elon Musk and his new political parties?
Seems like he's hitting the brakes on that right.
Speaker 12 (32:36):
It could be at least taking his foot off the gas.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Certainly.
Speaker 12 (32:38):
You know the reason when you look at his posts, well,
he doesn't use gas with bad analogy.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
But even if you.
Speaker 12 (32:43):
Look at his posts on Truths on X, he doesn't
talk about politics much anymore. It doesn't really reference current events.
Most of his posts are about rock and how it's improving.
But he does seem to be he's taking a less
political tone. As you said, he has been seem to
be paling around with or associating more with jd Vance,
(33:04):
who is I guess the heir apparent after Trump.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Two point zero. We'll see.
Speaker 12 (33:08):
But I'm also curious though that, you know, I'm not
as quick to write off this America Party idea yet,
but not for the White House, because I think that
Musk realizes there's an awful lot of power in just
winning a couple of House seats here and there. Put
them and put those America Party people in pivotal roles,
because with the House so closely divided, they could be
(33:31):
very influential with just a handful of seats, and that
would be far less expensive on Musk's part.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Well, and it's not like Mark Zuckerberg hasn't been doing
that right and realized that before. What's interesting for Elam
Musk is, you know, he got caught in a rock
and a hard place. Okay, so you come out, you
form this special alliance with Trump, you help get him elected,
you're jumping around on stage. Then you're a part of Doge.
You become the you know, Darth Vader for the Democrats.
(33:58):
Then you have this tantrum and anti Trump over not
cutting enough, and then you alienate yourself with the Trump supporters,
and it really became a liability for his business, and
it was so over the top we wondered for a
while if it was actually staged to protect his business interests.
I think he's kind of learned some lessons about how
to handle politics in general. The old Michael Jordan, right,
(34:20):
they buy shoes too, comes to mind. What about obviously
you can We've done this a million time.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Not a million, but you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Those Democrats flee estate and you know they have a
tantrum and they speak about jerry mandering as if only
the Republicans do it, but they eventually have to return.
They did, it got passed. Where does it go from here?
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Right?
Speaker 12 (34:39):
So, now the Texas Senate is going to take up
these redrawn maps for Texas. That's going to happen starting tonight.
These maps will be in place in time for the
midterms next year. What California does is still a bit gray.
We know that there's not a whole lot of support
for Gavin Newsom's plan to redraw the maps there, but
it's still early. Let's see what happens. Other states will
(34:59):
also look at perhaps redrawing their district lines to help
the power the party in power stay in power. But
it's going to be a nail by there, and we're
running out of.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Time, and we're running of time, and we had that
conversation with Davidson not an Indiana, Missouri, and Florida all
talking about redistricting. Ohio must by law, and the way
they're drawing up Ohio could take that to an eight
to seven Republican advantage from something far greater. So that
may be the most significant of the swing states. Great reporting,
as always, Rory. We'll talk again tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
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whatever happened to Elon Musk's new party just kind of
went away?
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Right, Well, he's about to let go of the whole vision,
but the brakes on it. He's I in jd vance
in twenty twenty eight. Roy O'Neil has that story coming
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Sounds of the day next half hour. I got one
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and Sacramento. Good morning, Michael, Jeffrey and read. I have
come to the realization that Thursdays are my favorite day
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to listen. You cited your ad d Thursday. I have
a hypothesis as man is overthinking the show. By the
time Thursday comes around, you've gotten some of.
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Your seriousness out of the way.
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Fridays are more predictable, partially due to forty seven, and
so I think Thursday, Well, let me tell you something.
There is a common thread in radio. It's so different now.
It used to be if you weren't listening live, you
didn't hear it. And so I used to call the
first hour my platinum hour for my platinum listeners, and
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they saw a side of us we didn't let anybody
else see. We were professional later, but if we were
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(02:00):
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Today or a week from now on a podcast.
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some good news and some bad news, or so the
story broke yesterday. The good news is unemployment is staying low.
The bad news is the workforce is shrinking. Is that bad?
Why is that bad? What's causing it? More importantly, how
do we fix it? Say hello to our economist and
(02:50):
money with David Bonson from the Bonson Financial Group. He
also presides over the Dividendcafe at Dividendcafe dot com.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Good morning, David, Welcome morning, Michael. Good to be with you.
Can you believe another week pass by? And here we are?
Times you believe it? Yeah, it seems like it happens
all the time.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
I've always I don't know what your take is on this,
and I defer to your expertise, but I've always found
unemployment numbers and it has something to do with my
personal experience, but I found them almost worthless. You know,
I lived in tuls Oklahoma after Sitko left, and you know,
people would went from two hundred thousand dollars jobs and
three hundred thousand dollars homes and buying fifty thousand dollar
(03:33):
cars to call.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Centers at ten dollars an hour.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Well, it showed them employed, but that certainly wasn't economically
of any use. So there's employed, there's underemployed, and then
there's leaving the workforce all together. Kind of walk us
through these numbers and how you use them and how
we should.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Yeah, I would say that all of those data points
are important, but they're all measuring something different, and we
have data on all three. The under employment, the so
called YOU six measurement is a very important one, and
it does reflect people with jobs, but also people working
(04:13):
part time jobs for economic reasons, people working second jobs
for economic reasons. You can get a lot of extra
data to kind of tell the whole story. I don't
think it's that the data is worthless, Michael. I think
it's just that one has to do more than look
at only the headline.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
But you don't have.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
A situation where people lose good paying jobs in masks
and have to replace it with lower paying jobs and
the unemployment rate doesn't go up. I mean in those
types of recessionary situations, the unemployment rate itself will also
be going up. There are plenty of people that won't
(04:53):
go from a two hundred thousand dollars job to a
ten dollars hour job, and they will be unemployed, and
they go through a invention process or whatnot, so you
know that you're right. Sometimes the regional data can be
very bad, like your example, which is when a town
had a disproportionate part of its population employed by one
company that goes under the country's employment might be doing fine,
(05:18):
but the town might be in a very precarious position.
An example of that that goes beyond just a kind
of Tulsa, Oklahoma.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
You know, the Peoria, Illinois.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
You know where a particular US manufacture or something like
that went down, was when Clinton closed all the bases
in the nineties. You had a lot of places where,
like in southern California, it was a major part of
the US economy, and there was just tens of thousands
of jobs that left, but the rest of the country
(05:51):
didn't really necessarily know it. Those things will happen, but
I believe we still really do benefit from knowing a
national unemployment level. An underemployment and the rate of growth
of underemployment. That's what's so interesting now is it isn't
that it's abnormally high. It isn't back to like the
(06:13):
early Obama year level, but six point two percent up
to seven point nine percent. That's a big move and
that's where we are now. And I think that's a
lot of small businesses being impacted by tariffs and then
ultimately the fine I'm sorry for my long answer, but
the final number is the one you brought up, which
is the labor participation. For us, that is by far
(06:36):
the most important one for those of us who care
about the state of the culture. You know, what is
the state of our society's appetite for work? Because just
as much as measuring availability of jobs matters, I want
to measure availability of workers and that's what the labor
participation force does.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
And that's not a pretty picture.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Yeah, and explain to everybody why you know that's bad?
Speaker 2 (07:02):
All right?
Speaker 1 (07:02):
So you know, so unemployment is steady, okay, good, but
workforce participation is down.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Well, that's not good. And why is that not good?
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Well, there are some who say it's fine because it's
just a matter of baby boomer is retiring. And so
when a baby boomer checks out, they're no longer in
the workforce, so they're not included in the denominator which
is used to measure.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
The unapployment rate.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
But if they're retired and the financially comfortable, who cares
that they've left the labor force? The problem is that
it's untrue that that's all it is about, right.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
And we did have we First of all, we had.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Almost a sixty eight percent labor participation for us. So
what that does is take the people that have a
job or are looking for a job divided by the
total number of employable people, which is basically the US
population minus children, minus disabled.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
And unable to work.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Okay, and so you go from three hundred and thirty
million down to about two hundred and sixty million. And
then the labor participation those who have a job are
looking for a job, is that number divided by let's
call it two hundred and sixty million.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
It's roughly about one hundred and sixty million.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
That's gone from from sixty eight percent to sixty two
percent since the financial crisis. You go, okay, six percent,
that's pretty bad five or six percent, well, five or
six percent by one hundred and sixty million, Okay, that's
basically eight nine ten million people, all right, depending on
(08:39):
exactly what point in time we're looking at it.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
It's a lot of people.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
And three point one million are twenty five to fifty
four year old men, so there is another million there
are women that we generally assume with that age group
of women leaving the workforce to have children, a participation
force for women is.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
All time high.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
The problem is working age able bodied men leaving the workforce,
and that I don't know how to interpret other than
as a cultural epidemic.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
So I'm trying to think of all the holes in
this and I'll I'll just let you know what's running
through my mind, and then maybe you can sense the
question if one million illegals have deported on their own
volition and deported themselves, plus those that have been removed.
Or a guy has a job and then he has
(09:38):
also a side hustle. He loses the main job but
still has the side hustle, how do like all those
different factors cloud getting to a clear picture. So because
there's three questions why is it bad? You've answered what's
causing it? You certainly explored a few of them. Most importantly,
how do we fix it? Well, to fix it, we
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got to actually know what's real happening, don't we?
Speaker 2 (10:01):
And I don't know. We got to clear enough picture.
Well the problem.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
The thing is is that when people talk about is
various shifts that could alter the data on the margin.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
What is important to.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Realize is that these are things that have been true
for a long time. The labor participation force dropped way, way,
way before we had all the issues with the border.
The labor participation force dropped before there was such thing
as a so called gig economy. This idea that people
lost the two hundred thousand dollars job, but they're okay
because they're driving an uber as a side hustle that
(10:36):
gets captured in the underemployment. But to the extent that
it's not perfectly captured, it's still relatively captured. Like if
it was imperfectly captured this year, it was imperfectly captured
last year and the year before, And so the imperfect
capture of the data is still giving us a year
over year trend.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
And so how do we know? Go ahead?
Speaker 1 (10:58):
I was just gonna say, how do we know that
there's not a bunch of thirty five to forty five
year old men who are certainly staying at home because
we know that the female work a participation is way
up and they're getting better and better jobs, higher paying jobs.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I can take out a nephew.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
He's home taking care of the three kids, and his
wife's a VP of marketing for a major sports athletic
department company.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
So I mean, I just don't know how.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
I'm trying to learn how to use all this from
an expert who looks at all.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
But that isn't the data. That's exactly the part of
the data. So in other words, in that case, your
nephew's wife is in the data as employed, and your
nephew is in the data as out of the labor
participation for us.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
So I'm not suggesting that.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Every one of the three point one million men is
some sort of awful situation. Some of them may have
won the lottery, some of them may have bought bitcoin
at two dollars and sold it a high number. I
would suggest, Michael, that three point one million of those
men at in the same time that we've had a
one thousand percent increase in disability claims at the same
(12:06):
time that we have the largest amount of single men
living with their mommy and daddy in history. I would
suggest that they're not all like your nephew, right, that
those are.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Exceptions, not the rule. I think you just nailed it all, right,
So how do you fix it? Can you fix it
or do you just keep your eye on the main
ball of what is wise in form of in the
form of paying down debt, limited government, you know, creating
an atmosphere where entrepreneurs will take risk, investment will be made,
(12:38):
jobs will be created. I mean, I guess do these
numbers really factor in to the game plan?
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Are they just naturally fix the No, No, they do
not just naturally fix this.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
When you and I first met, it was because my
book Full Time Work in the Meaning of Life had
come out. And what I would suggest that if what
we're talking about fixing is not just data reporting and
some of that stuff, we're trying to get more people
in the workforce, I would suggest that it's not going
to fix itself from government policy. It's not going to
(13:11):
fix itself from it's not going to fix itself from
anything other than a.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Spiritual, cultural, moral awakening. That work is a good thing.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
And we have too many on the left, and I
would add some on the right that are not understanding
that the purpose of life is not to be removed
from work.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
The purpose of life is not leisure and recreation.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Leisure and recreation are a part of our lives, but
they are for the purpose of recharging our batteries so
that we can get back to the purpose of our life,
which is productive work and having our needs met by
meeting the needs of others. This is not a primarily
a policy issue, It is pribly a spiritual issue.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
I agree completely.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
So if God is the same yesterday, today and forever,
and he created us in his image, and this is
the recipe in God's plan, along with marriage, along with
parenting and other things and being light and darkness and
so on. But if this is his nature and his
call for us, and this is where we're ultimately fulfilled,
and we obey, and He's the same, yesterday, today and forever.
(14:16):
So work is the key to abundant life on earth.
Does it suggest that we won't be just floating on
a cloud doing nothing for eternity as well?
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Yes, not only does it suggest it in all the
things you just said.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
We also know this is true because we know.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
That heaven is the restoration of the garden in a
celestial city, that what God is doing is restoring.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
The endetic conditions he made us in.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
And we know that God made us to work before
Sin entered the world, that Adam and Eve were to
be productive in the garden. So the idea that people
have that they're going to go to heaven and be
on an eternal vacation misses a little bit of the point.
It'll be eternal resty, internal worship, eternal perfection, and it
(15:02):
will also be eternal work.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
And I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
David Boson, I have to call him my little brother
by age. He is my big brother by mind. And
you know I've always loved this. In addition to owning hotels,
in addition to being the Bonson Financial Group and being
on Fox Business and having the Dividend Cafe, he's also
author of a great book and he's at Theologian to Boot.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
He does all that before nine am. Like the US Army. Hey,
what's on dividend Cafe tomorrow?
Speaker 3 (15:33):
We are doing a special addition on the FED.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Not interest rates, but their balance sheet.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
All this talk about quantitative easing, quantitative tightening, what's going
on with that?
Speaker 2 (15:44):
What should be going on with that? What does it mean?
Speaker 3 (15:46):
A refresher course, as the FED gets ready to meet
in Jackson Hole, we're going to talk about the Fed's
balance sheet as a policy tool, what it means for
Americans financially.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Dividendcafe dot Com comes out tomorrow. We'll talk again next Thursday.
David Bonce and God bless you have a great week.
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God bless.
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the podcast. The Texas State House reconvened after the protests
of Democrats being the state they got a return sooner
or later, they did, and they have passed the re
drawn congressional maps. Now the bill is headed to the
GOP controlled state Senate, where it is sure to pass
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there as well. The Director of National Intelligence, Telsey Gabbard,
is cutting around forty percent of her staff, and around
forty million people are under coastal flood alert, says Aaron Now,
a Category two hurricane turns off the eastern seaboard. Evacuations
have been ordered for parts of North Carolina's out the
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You got two Thursday night football games tonight. The Steelers
are at Carolina and the Patriots are at the Giants.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Oh, and it's time for your sounds of the day.
She's gonna get smoked. He's got two and stopped.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
I really don't know what he said at the end
of this, and I don't think he knows what he
said either.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
It's got to be a big misunderstanding.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
I'm always revealing, often entertaining. Here's your sounds the day.
We want to start with the Caroline Lovett. She really
has probably been well, I mean, that's a that's a
fun question right in and of itself. Is she one
of other than Trump, the biggest superstars of this whole
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team Trump? She performs at a very high level every day,
and who doesn't love to watch her handle and shred?
A New York Times reporter, well, I won't this just
pop up and stop making my life miserable? Probably the
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New York Times trying to stop me. There it is,
got it? Here we go, Caroline Lovett on the New
York Times.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
Listen, why wouldn't Trump just take the call from Putin
while the other leaders were in the room?
Speaker 2 (19:58):
So it would be disrespectful to do that? Why is
it disrespectful?
Speaker 5 (20:01):
With all due respect, only a reporter from the New
York Times would ask a question like that. Sean the
President met with all of these European leaders at the
White House forty eight hours after sitting down with President
Putin on American soil. In fact, there was so much
progress and the readout that was given to these European
leaders immediately following his meeting with President Putin that every
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single one of them got on a plane forty eight
hours later and flew to the United States of America.
And if I could just read for all of you
some of the statements from those European leaders. Yesterday you
had President Zealinski himself saying it was a very good conversation,
It was really good. We spoke about very sensitive points.
The Secretary General Mark Ruda, it was the president only
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because of the President that this deadlock was broken, but
with President Putin by starting a dialogue. So these leaders
who this war is in their backyard are very grateful
that the President took that call and that he was
there to provide them with a readout of Russia's things
on this, something that was not done by the previous
administration at all.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
I mean, but again, this is just symptomatic of what
they keep doing, this adversarial coverage. Oh, this is gonna
lead the boots on the ground. It's because they just
can't have Donald Trump, even if it ends a war,
even if it's good for Arnado partners and countries security,
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even if it's good ultimately for security, they just can't
have it, not if it's a Trump win. And it's
no different than how they're handling the President being involved
in cleaning up crime in the District of Columbia.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
A great sit down.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
I don't watch very often, but lower Ingram sat down
with the Vice President JD.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Vance.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
They discussed a lot of really important things and it
was very impressive.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Here's one clip from JD.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Of all, how is it a power grab or how
is it a stunt? When we've already declined murders by
thirty five percent of nine days. How many people are
living and breathing today because Donald Trump had the willpower
to say, you know what, we're sick of DC being
a home to lawlessness. We're going to bring some public
order back to the nation's capital. So what I would
say to Gavin Newsomb or to anybody else in some
of these big blue states or big blue cities, is you.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Can have law and order, you.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
Can have commed decency, You can have public spaces that
young families can go to. Again, think a story, Laura,
A couple of years ago. The last time I was
in Union Station, I took my little kids there to
get lunch, and they were being screened at by homeless people.
Not compassionate to the homeless people to let them just
fester when they clearly.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Have mental health problems.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
Not compassionate to young families to not be able to
go into one of America's great public spaces without being
screened at by a person clearly suffering.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
I don't know, well, because they're so anti Trump. They're
so anti Trump, and that's the only thing driving them
that if it makes sense to secure a border as
a sovereign nation, and Donald Trump's leading that securing, you
know what, if they didn't want Donald Trump to be president,
they could have continued to secure that border, but they didn't.
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If they didn't want Donald Trump to be president, they
could have been pro law enforcement instead of anti cop
and pro criminal and not even arresting them, or if
they did, let them right back out the front door
to commit more crimes. This is the ongoing narrative.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Now.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
I think the Democrats look foolish and childish and what's
left of a media that nobody cares about. I never
watch ABC Nightly News, I never watch NBC news, CBS News.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Heck, I don't watch CNNMSNBC or Fox News. They're all irrelevant.
That's what we used to do. The joke I see
dead people and they don't know they're dead, and then
they'll throw out a pole. Look, the majority of the
American people are four or I should say this way.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
The majority of the American people believe that Donald Trump
using National Guard in DC will make DC safer. But
then you ask them, should they be there? Oh, of
course not. I mean, it's ridiculous. And there's two facts
that come out in that from JD. Vans people that
are alive today that wouldn't have been. And if you
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don't like the federal government being involved prioritize law and order,
nobody's stopping you but yourselves. Now, Gavin Newsom says he's
gonna he's gonna try to be just like Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
JD. Vance just lamb basted that.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Why because well, Donald Trump said fight fight fight after
being shot in the head and standing up, they're saying fight, fight, fight.
I'm standing against stopping crime, standing against securing the border,
standing against stopping war.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
It just looks ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Well, nobody knows how to quite summarize the ridiculousness like
Stephen Miller does it too.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
They long.
Speaker 6 (25:30):
Of this city has been terrorized by one percent of
the city. And the voice that you hear out there,
those crazy communists, they have no roots, they have no
connections to the city. They have no families they're raising
the city. They have no one that they are sending
some school in the city, they have no jobs in
the city. They have no connections to this community at all.
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But they're the ones who've been advocating for the one percent,
the criminals, the killers, the rapists, the drug dealers, And
I'm glad they're here today. I met Pete and the
Vice president all going to leave here and inspired by them,
We're going to add thousands more resources to this city
to get the criminals and the gang members out of here.
We're going to dismandle those networks, and we're going to
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grew that a city can serve for the law abiding
citizens who live there.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
And I might add in that poll, I suggested half
the voters expect crime to decline, so they know how
bad crime is and they know that policies are causing it.
These are blue cities in blue states with blue narrativised
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policies that are failing its citizens and the number one
priority of any municipal, county, or state or federal government
security for its people. Nobody wants to live words unsafe,
nobody wants to go to school wards unsafe, and a
majority say, oh yeah, they'll definitely lower crime, and then
included thirty nine percent who strongly leave. They expect crime
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to decline, so they know it to work. But then
you go to should they be doing it? And you
get the complete matrix response, And if you break it
down by Republicans versus Democrats, you get the partisan response.
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Can't do right, not if it's going to benefit shirts.
I mean, we play for skins. And that's your talk
Sounds of the Day, Now for your top five stories
of the day. The Jeffrey Epstein grand jury records will
remain just as I said they would sealed.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Mark Mayfield has that story, but.
Speaker 7 (27:44):
Jud JO on Wednesday deny the Justice Department's bid to
get the records unsealed. That led to Epstein being indicted
on sex trafficking charges. Public interests in the case reignited
after the Justice Department announced that Epstein did not have
a client list and confirm the sex offender's deaths.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
The suicide evidence.
Speaker 7 (28:01):
That was seen and heard by grand jury's is not
allowed to be released without approval from a judge. Last month,
President Trump ordered Attorney General Pam Bondi to get court
approval to release the grand jury material.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
I'm Mark Neefield. Cracker Barrel. They just can't leave it alone.
Speaker 8 (28:15):
Now they're rolling out a new logo con is the
familiar barrel, and for the first time in forty eight years,
the logo is text only. Cracker Barrel opened in nineteen
sixty nine with a text only logo. In nineteen seventy seven,
it adopted the current image of a man leaning on
a barrel. The change is part of the company's All
the More campaign. The rebrand is designed to enhance the
look of the stores, getting rid of the dark, antique
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southern vibe and going more for a brighter, modern farmhouse look.
Cracker Barrels also debuting a new fall menu. I'm Tammy Trio.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Hurts is partnering with Amazon and to sell used cars.
Speaker 9 (28:48):
The car rental company announced on Wednesday it's pre owned
vehicles sales will be hosted on the Amazon Auto website.
Customers seventy five miles within Dallas, Houston, Los Angeles, and
Seattle can start shopping now. Amazon Auto has been selling
Hondai vehicles online since twenty twenty four. Hertz's stock has
jumped higher since the announcement. I'm Brian Shuk.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Archie and the.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Gang will soon be jumping off the comic books and
onto the big screens.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Sweet news for Archie fans.
Speaker 10 (29:21):
Universal Pictures is developing a movie based on the long
running comic book franchise. It's said to be produced by
Spider Verse producers Bill Lord and Christopher Miller, with a
script from comic book writer Tom King. The world of
Archie was most recently featured in the CW show Riverdale
and Netflix Chilling Adventures of Sabrina. Archie Comics has sold
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more than three billion copies and it's eighty five year history.
I'm Michael Cass.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
The kids are back in school. The kids are back
in school, and that causes a lot of anxiety. Bretennis
is here with who's suffering the most?
Speaker 11 (29:55):
Hill's pet nutritions as animals get depressed when kids go
back to school. They say the change interaction and stimulation
causes separation, anxiety, and dogs suffer more than cats. They
suggest enriching the environment with interactive toys and puzzles to
prevent boredom, because a board cat or dog can plot
an attack on your stuff and make it look like
an accident. I'm bree Tennis.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Well, the Cubs have taken three out of four from
the Brewers. So with the Brewers went like thirteen games
in a row and then had that streak snapped by
the Reds, and then the Cubs have taken three out
of four with one more to go. So it was
a rough stretch for the Brewers. They lost four to
three to the Cups again yesterday. Tigers beat the Astros
seven to two, d Backs beat the Guardians three to two,
Rays lost to the Yankees six to four, Cardinals lost
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six to two to the Marlins, Dodgers fell eight to
three to the Rockies, Red's lost two to one to
the Angels, Padre's beat the Giants eight to one, and
the A's one four to two over the Twins. Two
Thursday night, NFL preseason football games tonight for you. The
Steelers are at Carolina and the Patriots at the Giants.
Birthdays today, I said from Nashville, and not when she
was a small child, and remember the Titans. But act
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Hayden Pantier is thirty six years old today, Singer Casey
Musgrave is thirty seven sex and the city's Kim Corell Katrell.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Is sixty nine and two time Heisman winner.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
When I was a little kid with those big shoulder pads,
he was running all over the Wolverines.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Archie Griffin seventy one years old today.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
But it's your birthday, Happy birthday, So glad you were born,
and thanks for making your morning show a part of
your big day.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
It's your morning show. With Michael del Chorno.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
We had a long conversation not to do a shameless
plug for the podcast, but about the left root and
for the left, the right rooting for the right, who's
rooting for America? And this hyperpartisanship and it's far more
prevalent in the media than it is among everyday Americans.
And so there's this uncertain future for the Democrats. There
(31:49):
are or with themselves with the socialist portion of their party,
maybe a new Islamist portion forming. They're losing a key
voting blocks and now the registration down four point five
millionaires in New York Times to the story on today.
So there's a big fade there, not just in registration
but in people wanting to identify with that party. For
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the Republican Party, just as big of a challenge are
people going to be excited about going back to being
establishment Republicans after Donald Trump?
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Who knows?
Speaker 1 (32:19):
And maybe the best name was the one that Elon
Musk created for a third party he was going to create,
but not so much anymore.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Your morning show correspondent Roy O'Neil is here.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Whatever happened to Elon Musk and his new political parties?
Seems like he's hitting the brakes on that right.
Speaker 12 (32:36):
It could be at least taking his foot off the gas.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Certainly.
Speaker 12 (32:38):
You know the reason when you look at his posts, well,
he doesn't use gas with bad analogy.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
But even if you.
Speaker 12 (32:43):
Look at his posts on Truths on X, he doesn't
talk about politics much anymore. It doesn't really reference current events.
Most of his posts are about rock and how it's improving.
But he does seem to be he's taking a less
political tone. As you said, he has been seem to
be paling around with or associating more with jd Vance,
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who is I guess the heir apparent after Trump.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Two point zero. We'll see.
Speaker 12 (33:08):
But I'm also curious though that, you know, I'm not
as quick to write off this America Party idea yet,
but not for the White House, because I think that
Musk realizes there's an awful lot of power in just
winning a couple of House seats here and there. Put
them and put those America Party people in pivotal roles,
because with the House so closely divided, they could be
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very influential with just a handful of seats, and that
would be far less expensive on Musk's part.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Well, and it's not like Mark Zuckerberg hasn't been doing
that right and realized that before. What's interesting for Elam
Musk is, you know, he got caught in a rock
and a hard place. Okay, so you come out, you
form this special alliance with Trump, you help get him elected,
you're jumping around on stage. Then you're a part of Doge.
You become the you know, Darth Vader for the Democrats.
(33:58):
Then you have this tantrum and anti Trump over not
cutting enough, and then you alienate yourself with the Trump supporters,
and it really became a liability for his business, and
it was so over the top we wondered for a
while if it was actually staged to protect his business interests.
I think he's kind of learned some lessons about how
to handle politics in general. The old Michael Jordan, right,
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they buy shoes too, comes to mind. What about obviously
you can We've done this a million time.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Not a million, but you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Those Democrats flee estate and you know they have a
tantrum and they speak about jerry mandering as if only
the Republicans do it, but they eventually have to return.
They did, it got passed. Where does it go from here?
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Right?
Speaker 12 (34:39):
So, now the Texas Senate is going to take up
these redrawn maps for Texas. That's going to happen starting tonight.
These maps will be in place in time for the
midterms next year. What California does is still a bit gray.
We know that there's not a whole lot of support
for Gavin Newsom's plan to redraw the maps there, but
it's still early. Let's see what happens. Other states will
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also look at perhaps redrawing their district lines to help
the power the party in power stay in power. But
it's going to be a nail by there, and we're
running out of.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Time, and we're running of time, and we had that
conversation with Davidson not an Indiana, Missouri, and Florida all
talking about redistricting. Ohio must by law, and the way
they're drawing up Ohio could take that to an eight
to seven Republican advantage from something far greater. So that
may be the most significant of the swing states. Great reporting,
as always, Rory. We'll talk again tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
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