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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
But so glad you're here. Now, enjoy the.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Podcast and a pleasant good morning for the flight deck.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
This is your captain speaking pilot man.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
We've reached our workers in altitude of thirty five thousand feet.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Really, those guys, I guess i'm scaut appropriate clouds.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
A little rough patch with the company identity turbulence this morning.
As you may have noticed, the airline Farmers formally known
as south Jet, has now rebranded to sky Barrel. That's right,
sky Barrel like cracker Barrel, but significally less appetizing. You're
going to notice some changes on board. Our seat belts.
(00:54):
We're now referring to them as heritage straps, your complimentary repretzels,
our being ri image a little bit. And of course
we're starting him in that mason jar, which I think
you're going to really enjoy the effect of we expect
some financial turbulence. Wall Street has reclassified us as from
airlines to quaint airborne attraction. But don't worry, folks, your
(01:19):
ticket still includes that a rocking chair surch arge has
been waived and just encouraging you to sit back, relax,
and enjoy what the analysts are calling the most expensive
game of corporate bad libs and aviation history. Pled to
this least pair of the passengers for a arrival and
(01:40):
once again, welcome aboard from the flight deck wal two.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Starting your morning off right, a new way of talk,
a new way of understanding.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Because we're in this together. This is your morning Shuance
with Michael Bill John. You know what's going over all
of the.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
All of the cracker barrel memes because you know, at
some point, by the way, nine minutes after the hour,
good morning and welcome to your morning show on the
air and streaming live on your iHeart app, there was
the one. I'm the only one that see when I
see Kamala Harris, I see Caesar Romero from Batman.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
She looks like the Joker and I can see so.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
But this picture is really a Caesar Romero laughing shot
of Kamala Harris sitting in the barrel with the new
Cracker Barrel logo. Perhaps the best meme I saw was
the sun is setting and walking down a country road
hand in hand is the old Cracker Barrel logo with
the bud light camp. But the one I wanted to
point out was, let's say you wanted to rebrand, someone
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put this is what they should have done. And I mean,
this logo looks great. I should send it to you too.
It's a woman kind of like barrel racing, you know,
but kind of in the lean and the turn into
the barrel with the Cracker barrel, just saying Cracker Barrel
still keeping that pumpkin type shit. It really is well,
(03:07):
i'll hold it up. I don't know if you can
see it very well. It really is a better logo. Yes,
and they're racing going on there. But that speaks to
what I said originally, which was, listen, the problem is
the food. I am a you know, my kids grew
up going to Cracker Barrel and walking through that store
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and buying toys, sitting down and eating. And I put
my finger at COVID. Something happened in COVID and they
made the choice to try to keep prices the same,
so they started lowering portions and changing some things, and
not so much in breakfast, but if you ever go
there for lunch, you will see a real fall off.
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And with it has been a fall off and the
kind of people I see having business lunches there and
so on.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
So I don't know. We joked about this.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
I warned you guys, don't listen to first hour shows
when you're catching up with the podcast over the weekend,
because we had some silly first hours. But I was
talking about how charming waffle House is dirty, but cracker
Barrel not so charming dirty, and the food has fallen
off and the price is still high. I mean, I
think that's got a lot of issues that go beyond
the logo. It was just such a boring I mean,
(04:27):
I think anybody on their computer could have created logo
compared to like, even with the joking, some of the
joking meme ones are a better logo. But that girl
barrel racing, that really would have been a nice.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
And I shouldn't mind them. Like me saw Michael was
uncle Herschel in drag. Oh, I did not see that.
One think.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
A Republican consultant. In your Morning show, contributor Chris Walker
is joining us. Cracker Barrel's perceived DEI inspired marketing moves
was less a standard, more a stumble, at least that's
what he thinks, and that stumble led to shooting themselves
in the foot. Chris, I don't know why two people
having an affair and a Coldplay concert got the same
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coverage of the Hindenburg and their household names. And I
don't know how this simple logo change so went viral,
one sided, and everybody sniffed a rat. But what a disaster.
And they lost one hundred million dollars in value on Friday.
And the early indication is they have no intention, even
after the widespread criticism and economic uncertainty, to return to
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that original design, and they're going to move on with
their recrafting of Cracker Burrel.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Sure looks like a shot in the foot.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
It's uh yeah, somebody, it just it's it's it's remarkable
and good morning, Michael, you know, good morning, not from
Cracker Barrel. You know, it's it's so funny that you
know these how the company can so miss the cultural
moment is.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
So interesting to me.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
I mean, you know, the CEO go where does he
go to make this announcement? You know, New York City
goes on Good Morning America. They have a you know
this this faux kind of Thanksgiving tight meal and you know,
soho or something in New York with a bunch of
TikTok influencers, none of which are like any of the
Cracker Barrel customers, which just it was also phony, and
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you know, it reminds me of that old commercial where
you know they're making the salsa and the gago. This
also made New York City. You know, it's like this
is what cracker.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yeah right, you know it's.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
Like they're going to New York to try to try
to do this rebrand rather than actually looking at to
where the customer base is. Why not do it in Nashville.
Why not do it in in Atlanta or somewhere else.
It's just this whole well wrong.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Yeah, Cracker Barrel originated just outside of Nashville. So this
is a Tennessee uh product in a South product, and
and that's really who should be focus grouped, if you will.
But it really speaks to a bigger problem and a
problem that your opposing party is having and that is
out of touch with everyday Americans. I don't know if
(07:08):
you've got a chance to see this, but it was
a big conversation in the talking headshows over the weekend.
So Third Way, a center left think tank, circulates a
memo to Democrats with the forty five words and phrases
that they should avoid using.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
They kind of fall.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
In six categories, from therapy speak to explaining away speak,
But in essence, what they said is it's building walls
with everyday people of all races, religions and ethnicities.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
People simply do not say.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
These things because when they hear them, they put a
wall up and turn them off immediately. And so the
bottom line is it's a dead giveaway of your extremism,
a dead giveaway or a perception of your divisiveness, elitists
and wokeness, which is what I think to a good
degree is what Cracker Barrel is dealing with. I mean,
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you can change your logo, you can take some knickknack down.
Why is everybody going crazy like it's the end of
the world because they used words. That's why I started
with that senior vice president of marketing, and I only dinger,
not with wokeness, but more corporate speak. You know, the
intentionality of the customers experience, you know, and all that.
But here's the words that they've identified.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Privilege.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
By the way, keep note of these words, and then
tell me what the Democrats won't know how to speak.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
They'll have to turn to sign language.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Privilege, attaching violence to the environment or any other topic.
So environmental violence, dialoguing, triggering, other ring, microaggression, holding space,
body shaming, subverting norms, systems of oppression, cultural appropriation, you
(09:03):
use this one overton window. Existential threat to the climate,
existential threat to democracy, existential threat to the economy, existential
threat to anything, stop with your dooms day, radical transparency, stakeholders.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
I mean, the list goes on and on.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
But you know, a birthing person, cisgender, housing insecurity, food insecurity, LGBTQIA.
I mean, you get it. I'm thinking to myself two things. One,
you take these words away, they can't speak. Number two
is the words the problem. Out of the abundance of
the heart, the mouth speaks. Is it the words that
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are the problem or the heart that is the problem.
It's how out of touch they are and how these
words signal you're out of touch with everyday Americans. I
think this memo needed to go to Cracker Barrel, not
just to the Democrat Party. And neither of them are
looking at a change of heart, change of worldview, change
of policy view. They're looking at what words to avoid. Boy,
(10:02):
you've got easy standing, lad. You realize that, don't you?
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (10:06):
I mean, well, look at I mean, look one from
a Democrats standpoint, obviously, you know this is their identity.
Identity first, everything else second.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
So I mean from a night.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
You know, categorying word categorizing words and saying you can
or can't use them is what they do best. So
this is, you know, a twenty nineteen playbook, twenty fifteen
playbook that they're trying to kind of give to themselves
as kind of roadmap for success. When they try to
do that to Republicans for forever, and thankfully Republicans said, we're.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Not playing by your rules anymore.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
This is not you know, you you don't get to
dictate you know, culture or you know, our language to us.
But you know it's interesting you look at the Cracker
ol CEO and her responses.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
You know this is even for the backlash, but it's.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
Just it's such a it's such a fakeness to it.
It's it's incredible. I think that's what is so much right.
You know, people tell me all I hear is about
all the positives, how people want me to keep going.
It's like, that's absolutely not true, and everyone sees it,
and you know it comes from a standpoint of of inauthenticity.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
And you know, like people.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
Obviously, some corporate pr person who has no connection to
the audience and the customers with which they're trying to
serve food gives her a talking point that says, you know,
we'll just say everything's positive, it's fine, and people will
believe it. And you know, it's like people understand that
she's not honest.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Actually, I actually.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Think I actually think Chris, it's deeper than that. I
think this is the matrix. I think this is the bubble.
I think in their world, they only talk to people
who have their worldview, speak their language, their elitist language.
Uh No, I believe that's she really thinks that they
can't see beyond the matrix.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Donald Trump always does well.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
I guarantee you she's getting a social media report from
last week and it's saying a lot of things, so
there and so their their answer to that also was like,
it's a small minority of people.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
It's not a small minorary of people.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
It's it's it is smack dab in the middle of
your customer base saying this. They're saying they don't want this,
and you're saying, damn, the torpedoes go ahead.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
It's crazy those moments. All things Republican with Chris Walker
are consultant. He's a Republican consultant analysts. He's our contributor.
We left going into the weekend with that big Jackson
Hole summit, and how would Powell play it? You know
he would he kind of allude to, well, we saw
consumer price index down, but then we saw producer's price index.
(12:37):
That tells me this uncertainty and these undone tariff deals
are about to get to the customers. Quite frankly, I
probably ought to keep things no. Every verbal signal he
gave was that interest rate cuts were coming, and boy
did the market respond.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
All records s and.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
P sixty four to sixty seven, Nasdaq twenty one ninety seven,
Dow forty six and thirty two. And when it becomes
official and if we get a second cut or a
third cut, or if they're half point cuts, how might
the economy impact the mid terms next year?
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Because this is the flomy.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
The economy is the only thing that matters in the
midterms next year. It's it's the only equation that will
determine who wins the House and Senate. And President Trump
understands that, and so any any discussion or any kind
of activity. It's why he's been so adamant matureum pal
to try to cut rates earlier, because you know, we
want to make sure that we're you know, the economy
is in a good position heading into a growth cycle.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Heading in the next year.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
The economy is going to be issue one, two and
three for anybody going to the ballot box because ultimately
we're seeing it people are, you know, come saving more
money and not spending as much, which you know is
probably prudent, but also because it's it's a level of uncertainty.
People don't feel confident all the all the way of
the economy right now, and so you know, it's something
that that needs to be addressed. And I think, you know,
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our interest rates is one piece of it, but so
is you know, fixing the debt problem, and you know,
kind of starting to turn off the never ending host
of spending out.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Of Washington, and there's something early need to be done there.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
And just the early hinting caused the Marcus to go
into record territory. The reality will send it somewhere well
into next year's midterm. Always a pleasure. Chris Walker, Republican
consultant and analysts.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
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Speaker 5 (15:41):
Hey, Michael, I are up from with the ads.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
I'm just wondering.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
If the in afhsical franchise store owners and.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
Decide not to do the logo change and preserve the
value that.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
They're all branch. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
The short answer is no, they don't. It's part of
the franchise agreement. In fact, if you go to the
headquarters here in Middle Tennessee, every franchise owner they walk
down this giant warehouse with isles. They have some ability
to pick different knickknacks, but they have to pick from
the knickknacks on all the isles, and certainly the logo
change would be universal or none at all.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Hey, this is Jeff from Tulsa, Oklahoma, and my morning
show is your Morning Show with Michael dev Jorno.
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the hour in the Central Times when you got twenty
four is to be to work by eight o'clock.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Thanks for bringing us along with you. This is your
morning show. Rhad said something we did an interview with
John Fogerty of CCR. Oh, you forget how many hits
they had, and this poor guy didn't have the rights
to sing his own music for decades. Finally, at eighty
years old, he gets the ability to sing the songs
he wrote again. And lucky for all of us, he
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took care of himself and his voice, and he sounds
the same, and he's out with a new album and
he's touring. It was our Spotlight Interview of the Week
last week, and I got one discointed listener that called
and said he trump, I will not listen anymore. And
I'm just like, you know, we got to pick our battles, right.
I'm not willing to throw him out based on just that.
(17:43):
But read made the comment, well, if we use that criteria,
all will have as the village people in Lee Greenwood.
And I've a fell off my chair because it was true,
and it reminded me of when the Jesus Movement spread
from the West Coast and got all the way to Louisiana,
reached my freshman teacher and freshman football coach who then
(18:05):
taught a Bible study in my local high school cafeteria
that I attended, and the Jesus movement reached me. And
I remember him saying, oh, well, garbage at garbage out,
you just stopped plush. I did that satanic music like Toto,
and I was like Toto, Toto the Eagles, And I said,
(18:26):
so let me get to his house one day, Well,
what do you have and outcomes the Anita Bryant album
outcomes beach A.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Thomas, and I'm like, sorry, that just ain't gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
I'll get started on trying to quit smoking, but I
can't listen to that. Of course, that would all change
in about a year, two years, I'd have Amy Grant,
Michael W. Smith, Petra Phil Cagy, Russ taft Yanda Mucci,
Billy Crockett. I could go on and on. I didn't
just have good music as an old alternative. I had
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better music. And that all begins with Love Song. Eight
years in the making, a powerful docuseries is finally arriving
on Amazon Pride. It's a three part epic that uncovers
the untold story of the first iconic Christian band. There's
so much more to the story than just that. But yes,
(19:23):
it was the birth of the Jesus movement. Yes, it
was the birth of Jesus music, and it all.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Began with Love Song.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
We caught up with Ron Strand, the executive producer, to
talk about how this was more than just a musical revolution.
It was a cultural awakening in America. Well, it really was.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
Michael started in the late sixties and from my perspective.
I was in Orange County, which was the basis of
this particular documentary with Love Song, where they came out
of Calvary Chapel and Chuck Smith. But the spirit of
God was moving throughout the country. Young hippies, as you said,
were coming to Christ and droves and and this band
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was born out of that time. And it's quite a story,
that's that's told in the documentary and how they all
came from a drug culture and seeking you know, Eastern
mysticism and all kinds of different through health foods and
different things, all the way to finding this little country Church,
if you will, which which is one of their songs
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called Little Country Church pastored by Chuck Smith. And these
hippies came to find Christ through that, through that movement.
And we can get into that a little bit, but
that's where that's where the genesis is of that, the
movement and the basic of basis of this documentary.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
In the late sixties, it was check out. I mean,
imagine somebody trying to find it a recipe for revival
and cultural awakening through checking out. Everything reminds me of
Paul in Greece and he just said, well, let's talk
about the statue over here to the unknown God. You
wouldn't expect it to come from drugs and hippies, and
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yet here we are history as a way of repeating itself,
where moral relativism has run its course, all the searching
has run its course, all the lies, and this notion
there is no right and wrong, there is no absolute truth,
is kind of leading everybody back. That's what I think
makes this documentary so significant. We're living in an hour
that seems like an awakening again, doesn't it.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
It seems like it.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
It looks different than it did then, but it seems
like something's happening. And I think one of the things
that is evident, and particularly one of the one of
the guys, Tommy Cums, is in the in one of
the pieces of one of the episodes, is that you know,
we searched here, we searched there, We look for this,
we look for that, and it was just coming up empty, right,
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there was nothing there. And so here's this, here's the
gospel presented to them basically in something solid that they
could sink their teeth into.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
And I don't think you know.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
I think the movie Jesus Revolution, everybody got a look
at Love Song themselves. They appear first in the living
room of Chuck Smith, then they start singing at the church.
What can't be appreciated today is how folky rock or
instruments themselves and then new verses that aren't hymns being
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sung was so revolutionary. One of the things that you
touch on that I think is significant, Ron is the
endorsement of Billy Graham having them at expos seventy two.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
That was the stamp of the approval.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
And then we should talk a little bit about how
funny how God used music to really bring it to
life and spread it.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Well, that is that is for certain.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
You mentioned Explo seventy two, and we've got a piece
in there by Governor now Ambassador Mike Huckabee who was
at Explo seventy two Dallas and talks about his how
what it meant to him and the music, as you mentioned, Michael,
the music which is what related to the young hippies
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at the time, and not only just hippies, kids across
the spectrum. You know, I wasn't a hippie. I mean,
I was just a kid partying, but I wasn't a hippie.
But the music drew me in and that's what you know,
it was something that was outside the walls of the
you know, church quote unquote church, that was outside the hymnals,
and there was now, all of a sudden, there's this
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music I can relate to. There's drums, there's guitar, there's
lyrics in these songs that are that are not slamming
you across the face with the gospel, but they're they're
bringing it in in a way that is that just
kind of transpires the you know, the heart. And that's
what spoke to me. And Love Song in particular, for me,
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was a band that really captured Now. I came along
a little bit later. I got saved in nineteen seventy six,
and Love Song actually he had already disbanded, I think
in seventy three, but their music was still there and vital.
And so the music of Love Song, and particularly Chuck Gerard,
who recently has passed away, and boy, you know, I
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don't want to get off on a tangent at this point,
but we're really grateful that Chuck because he's been an
integral part of his sole project, yeah, up until even
a week before he passed. And so it's we're disheartened
that he won't be here to celebrate the release.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
But I was going to ask you on a side
note how much he had seen of the cuts, and.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
He's seen he has seen everything good. He's been intimately.
All the guys in the band, well, particularly Tommy Coom's
Jay Trix and Chuck Gerard.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
One has since deceased.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
And the other the drummer, John Mayler, has lived in
Sweden years and he really was not a part of
it in terms of he's featured in the Dock, but
he wasn't part of the making of the film.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
But you don't have Amy Grant, you don't have Michael W.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Smith, you don't have Deandi Mucci, you don't have White Heart,
you don't have any of these without these people. So
we all know the British invasion was the Beatles, but
we don't know the origins of contemporary Christian music. And
it came right in the heart of a cultural awakening
and a Jesus movement. And Ron Strand is joining us
the documentary of the band that doesn't get noticed enough,
a band called Love Song.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
My friend and I.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
We used to put on some of these old songs
later in life when we were in our twenties and
we go, oh man, that Phil Keagy that brings back
the joy of my salvation. I really think this documentary
is going to have that effect on them. You'll revisit
these artists, you'll revisit these songs, and you will revisit
the same Holy Spirit that hasn't left your side since
that may seem far away, and you'll experience the joy
(25:53):
of your salvation. And I'm excited how you tell this
story through today's legendary temporary Christian artists. I mean that
was probably what the most difficult part. Who do I
have that was influenced by this band? And I know
Michael W. Smith is in it, My dear friend Michelle
Polara is in it. You have several people in this
but that's very key to the story because this led
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not just a cultural revolution, but a music revolution.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
This film is actually the backstory of Jesus Revolution. Really is,
because it's it's the same story you know that was
featuring Greg Laurie and particularly Lonnie Frisbee, who was a
big fan of love Song, who went around Lonnie. They
would they tell stories about how Lonnie they would be
They would be driving along on the Citic Coast Highway
(26:43):
in southern California. Lonnie would say, stop, stop, We're going
to go into that apartment right there. And Lonnie would
just go up to an apartment door. He would knock
on the door and some hippie you know, pot would
be coming out of the the you know, the door
from from them smoking in there. And he said he
just shared Christ with him and these kids would get saved.
It was an incredible time. Now, Lannie Lennie, Lonnie can
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be a controversial figure, but there's no doubt that he
had a significant impact on on that movement. You know,
Chuck Smith embraced him and brought him in and he
was the one that related to these to these young
hippies at the time. And uh so, our story really
is the backstory, and it's it's it's about the band
(27:28):
love song, but really it's about the era called through
their Eyes.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
I'm so glad you said that, because I was watching
a Muhammad Ali documentary and Muhammad Ali is a fascinating
story in and of himself and and all the controversies
that went along with it and what and and really
kind of not so off camera was he was caught
in the middle of a tug of war between Islam
and Christianity.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
I mean, Martin Luther King Junior was.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Trying to get Muhammad Ali's soul saved, and meanwhile, you know,
the Brotherhood of Muslims.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
They won.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
But what was fast anything to me was all right.
So here's the documentary, I Muhammad Ali. What I'm watching
really is America in the background. And I think that's
what this documentary does. So if somebody's listening right now,
you're going, I really don't know Jesus, I really don't
care about the Jesus movement, or I don't know Christian music.
You'll like the view of America because the divided America
then is the same as the divided America today. And
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the uniqueness of using hippies and drugs and questions and
searching everything but God that leads them to God and
spreads across across the country and it has influenced generations
to come. It all starts, ironically at the epicenter and
of all places, California, and of all people hippies, and
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of all hippies that were recently out of jail or
not in a band called Love Song it, really it does.
It is a story that needs to be told to everyone.
And you tell it finally, eight years in the making,
and I'll tell you what you made good use of
your time because it looks amazing.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
There's been a lot of hours spent, you know, talking
about people that maybe weren't part of that era. Your
friend of mine who you and I have golf with.
In different comedian Jeff Allen. Yeah, he did a little
Peace for us as a promo for this, but he
tells the story. He says, you know, I was just
building my testimony then. I wasn't a Christian. I knew
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nothing about this, And when he watched the film, he said,
this is absolutely amazing. I had no idea this stuff
was going on at that time. I was out, you know,
I was you know, it got as he calls it,
building my test It got to River.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Ridge, Louisiana in nineteen seventy eight. I was just trying
to get out of the cold. My friend was just
trying to get near Patty Burcada. They did Bible study.
So a product of the Jesus Movement and the Jesus
Revolution was our coach and a teacher and he's doing
Bible study at lunch, which I think would be a
lawsuit today.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
And that's how the Jesus Movement reached me.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
And that's all the way in Louisiana, and as you
know it, it reached my grandmother through the Charismatic Church
and father Bertolucci. So it all happened. It all started here,
and everybody, especially those who have hope of it happening again,
you'll want to watch Ron Strand's eight Years in the
Making documentary A band called Love Song and not only
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led to changing America, it created the very contemporary Christian
music that I know a lot of you have loved
for years and years, and it is kind of the
backstory to the Jesus Revolution. So if you love that movie,
but even if you love America and just want to
see history as it's repeating itself, I highly recommend it
be out on Amazon Prime when about mid September.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
September nineteenth, it'll be available on Amazon Prime and Salem Now,
so it'll be on both platforms. We have non exclusive
with Amazon and so we're able to put it wherever
we want, and so we're trying to make it as
available as we can. We're also going to do some DVDs,
believe it or not, which a lot of people still use,
which was surprising to me. But everybody we've talked to
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you said you got to do some DVDs because some people.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Still like it. I'll be watching it on Prime. Hey listening.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
It may seem like it's been a long struggle of
eight years, and it may seem oh, less fulfilling that
Chuck is gone. But you know what you need to
know this. We serve a God of yesterday, today, and forever.
He goes before, with and after. This must have been
the perfect time. And as I look at the trailers,
it was time well spent. God bless you. I hope
this reaches a lot of people. Thanks Michael. Can I
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just give the website for folks that want to know more? Sure,
it's a band called lovesong dot com. A band called
loovesong dot com. They can find more about it there.
A band called lovesong dot com and the name of
the documentary Amazon prom Amazon Prime next month.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
A band called Lovesong.
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Speaker 3 (33:20):
Well, I can't believe it's the last week of August.
National Guard troops are now armed in our nation's capital.
Powerballs at seven hundred and fifty million dollars. Jerome Poll
gave enough of a hint of lowering interest rates that
the market went into record territory on Friday, SMP sixty
four to sixty seven, Nasdaq twenty one thousand, four ninety seven,
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(33:44):
in Vegas won the US Little League World Series, but
went on to lose to Chinese TYPEE in the International
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next National correspondent for your morning show, Roy O'Neil reveals
how it works and what you need to do to
keep yourself safe.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Good morning, Rory, Yeah, Good morning Michael.
Speaker 6 (34:05):
It's called the Phantom Hacker stam and as you said,
it's gotten about a billion dollars stolen from people in
just over the past year or so. It really is
a three level approach. First they'll try to pretend to
be someone with tech support, then they try to be
someone with your financial institution, then someone with the government.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
It all is trying to get the same thing.
Speaker 6 (34:26):
They want you to click on links, they want you
to give your information over the phone. This is a
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an email you don't know, delete it. If you get
a text you don't recognize, delete it, and never give
out information over the phone unless you're the one who
started the call.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Well, this goes for text this goes for emails. There's
a lot of other things you can look for that
give it away. But Rory, we can make fun of
that all we want. The truth of the matter is
it dupes everyday people, but it really dupes the older people.
Speaker 6 (34:54):
Right, and they're especially going after seniors with this one
because they've got the money set aside in those retires counts,
and they're using AI to scrub information, getting little pieces
of information about you that may get you to let
down your guard, and that's how they get in.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
So don't worry.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
What's the one what's the one fail safe thing you
can do? You never respond to those sources, but maybe
you go straight to the irs or straight to this
or straight to that. That's a pretty good fail safe.
Just don't respond to any of the texts or emails.
That's just not how they would contact and communicate.
Speaker 6 (35:25):
Make sure everyone in the family is on board as well,
the kids, the fifteen year old if they lose their
Social Security number at that age that could cause problems.
And make sure grandma and grandpa don't feel ashamed or
embarrassed about asking questions about this stuff. The more everyone
shares the information, they can explain this is a con
Just hang up and delete it.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Great reporting as always, worry, we'll talk again tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
This is your captain speaking pilot man.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
We've reached our workers in altitude of thirty five thousand feet.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Really, those guys, I guess i'm scaut appropriate clouds.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
A little rough patch with the company identity turbulence this morning.
As you may have noticed, the airline Farmers formally known
as south Jet, has now rebranded to sky Barrel. That's right,
sky Barrel like cracker Barrel, but significally less appetizing. You're
going to notice some changes on board. Our seat belts.
(00:54):
We're now referring to them as heritage straps, your complimentary repretzels,
our being ri image a little bit. And of course
we're starting him in that mason jar, which I think
you're going to really enjoy the effect of we expect
some financial turbulence. Wall Street has reclassified us as from
airlines to quaint airborne attraction. But don't worry, folks, your
(01:19):
ticket still includes that a rocking chair surch arge has
been waived and just encouraging you to sit back, relax,
and enjoy what the analysts are calling the most expensive
game of corporate bad libs and aviation history. Pled to
this least pair of the passengers for a arrival and
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once again, welcome aboard from the flight deck wal two.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Starting your morning off right, a new way of talk,
a new way of understanding.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Because we're in this together. This is your morning Shuance
with Michael Bill John. You know what's going over all
of the.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
All of the cracker barrel memes because you know, at
some point, by the way, nine minutes after the hour,
good morning and welcome to your morning show on the
air and streaming live on your iHeart app, there was
the one. I'm the only one that see when I
see Kamala Harris, I see Caesar Romero from Batman.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
She looks like the Joker and I can see so.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
But this picture is really a Caesar Romero laughing shot
of Kamala Harris sitting in the barrel with the new
Cracker Barrel logo. Perhaps the best meme I saw was
the sun is setting and walking down a country road
hand in hand is the old Cracker Barrel logo with
the bud light camp. But the one I wanted to
point out was, let's say you wanted to rebrand, someone
(02:47):
put this is what they should have done. And I mean,
this logo looks great. I should send it to you too.
It's a woman kind of like barrel racing, you know,
but kind of in the lean and the turn into
the barrel with the Cracker barrel, just saying Cracker Barrel
still keeping that pumpkin type shit. It really is well,
(03:07):
i'll hold it up. I don't know if you can
see it very well. It really is a better logo. Yes,
and they're racing going on there. But that speaks to
what I said originally, which was, listen, the problem is
the food. I am a you know, my kids grew
up going to Cracker Barrel and walking through that store
(03:28):
and buying toys, sitting down and eating. And I put
my finger at COVID. Something happened in COVID and they
made the choice to try to keep prices the same,
so they started lowering portions and changing some things, and
not so much in breakfast, but if you ever go
there for lunch, you will see a real fall off.
(03:51):
And with it has been a fall off and the
kind of people I see having business lunches there and
so on.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
So I don't know. We joked about this.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
I warned you guys, don't listen to first hour shows
when you're catching up with the podcast over the weekend,
because we had some silly first hours. But I was
talking about how charming waffle House is dirty, but cracker
Barrel not so charming dirty, and the food has fallen
off and the price is still high. I mean, I
think that's got a lot of issues that go beyond
the logo. It was just such a boring I mean,
(04:27):
I think anybody on their computer could have created logo
compared to like, even with the joking, some of the
joking meme ones are a better logo. But that girl
barrel racing, that really would have been a nice.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
And I shouldn't mind them. Like me saw Michael was
uncle Herschel in drag. Oh, I did not see that.
One think.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
A Republican consultant. In your Morning show, contributor Chris Walker
is joining us. Cracker Barrel's perceived DEI inspired marketing moves
was less a standard, more a stumble, at least that's
what he thinks, and that stumble led to shooting themselves
in the foot. Chris, I don't know why two people
having an affair and a Coldplay concert got the same
(05:09):
coverage of the Hindenburg and their household names. And I
don't know how this simple logo change so went viral,
one sided, and everybody sniffed a rat. But what a disaster.
And they lost one hundred million dollars in value on Friday.
And the early indication is they have no intention, even
after the widespread criticism and economic uncertainty, to return to
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that original design, and they're going to move on with
their recrafting of Cracker Burrel.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Sure looks like a shot in the foot.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
It's uh yeah, somebody, it just it's it's it's remarkable
and good morning, Michael, you know, good morning, not from
Cracker Barrel. You know, it's it's so funny that you
know these how the company can so miss the cultural
moment is.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
So interesting to me.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
I mean, you know, the CEO go where does he
go to make this announcement? You know, New York City
goes on Good Morning America. They have a you know
this this faux kind of Thanksgiving tight meal and you know,
soho or something in New York with a bunch of
TikTok influencers, none of which are like any of the
Cracker Barrel customers, which just it was also phony, and
(06:22):
you know, it reminds me of that old commercial where
you know they're making the salsa and the gago. This
also made New York City. You know, it's like this
is what cracker.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yeah right, you know it's.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
Like they're going to New York to try to try
to do this rebrand rather than actually looking at to
where the customer base is. Why not do it in Nashville.
Why not do it in in Atlanta or somewhere else.
It's just this whole well wrong.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Yeah, Cracker Barrel originated just outside of Nashville. So this
is a Tennessee uh product in a South product, and
and that's really who should be focus grouped, if you will.
But it really speaks to a bigger problem and a
problem that your opposing party is having and that is
out of touch with everyday Americans. I don't know if
(07:08):
you've got a chance to see this, but it was
a big conversation in the talking headshows over the weekend.
So Third Way, a center left think tank, circulates a
memo to Democrats with the forty five words and phrases
that they should avoid using.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
They kind of fall.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
In six categories, from therapy speak to explaining away speak,
But in essence, what they said is it's building walls
with everyday people of all races, religions and ethnicities.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
People simply do not say.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
These things because when they hear them, they put a
wall up and turn them off immediately. And so the
bottom line is it's a dead giveaway of your extremism,
a dead giveaway or a perception of your divisiveness, elitists
and wokeness, which is what I think to a good
degree is what Cracker Barrel is dealing with. I mean,
(08:10):
you can change your logo, you can take some knickknack down.
Why is everybody going crazy like it's the end of
the world because they used words. That's why I started
with that senior vice president of marketing, and I only dinger,
not with wokeness, but more corporate speak. You know, the
intentionality of the customers experience, you know, and all that.
But here's the words that they've identified.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Privilege.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
By the way, keep note of these words, and then
tell me what the Democrats won't know how to speak.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
They'll have to turn to sign language.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Privilege, attaching violence to the environment or any other topic.
So environmental violence, dialoguing, triggering, other ring, microaggression, holding space,
body shaming, subverting norms, systems of oppression, cultural appropriation, you
(09:03):
use this one overton window. Existential threat to the climate,
existential threat to democracy, existential threat to the economy, existential
threat to anything, stop with your dooms day, radical transparency, stakeholders.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
I mean, the list goes on and on.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
But you know, a birthing person, cisgender, housing insecurity, food insecurity, LGBTQIA.
I mean, you get it. I'm thinking to myself two things. One,
you take these words away, they can't speak. Number two
is the words the problem. Out of the abundance of
the heart, the mouth speaks. Is it the words that
(09:40):
are the problem or the heart that is the problem.
It's how out of touch they are and how these
words signal you're out of touch with everyday Americans. I
think this memo needed to go to Cracker Barrel, not
just to the Democrat Party. And neither of them are
looking at a change of heart, change of worldview, change
of policy view. They're looking at what words to avoid. Boy,
(10:02):
you've got easy standing, lad. You realize that, don't you?
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (10:06):
I mean, well, look at I mean, look one from
a Democrats standpoint, obviously, you know this is their identity.
Identity first, everything else second.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
So I mean from a night.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
You know, categorying word categorizing words and saying you can
or can't use them is what they do best. So
this is, you know, a twenty nineteen playbook, twenty fifteen
playbook that they're trying to kind of give to themselves
as kind of roadmap for success. When they try to
do that to Republicans for forever, and thankfully Republicans said, we're.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Not playing by your rules anymore.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
This is not you know, you you don't get to
dictate you know, culture or you know, our language to us.
But you know it's interesting you look at the Cracker
ol CEO and her responses.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
You know this is even for the backlash, but it's.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
Just it's such a it's such a fakeness to it.
It's it's incredible. I think that's what is so much right.
You know, people tell me all I hear is about
all the positives, how people want me to keep going.
It's like, that's absolutely not true, and everyone sees it,
and you know it comes from a standpoint of of inauthenticity.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
And you know, like people.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
Obviously, some corporate pr person who has no connection to
the audience and the customers with which they're trying to
serve food gives her a talking point that says, you know,
we'll just say everything's positive, it's fine, and people will
believe it. And you know, it's like people understand that
she's not honest.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Actually, I actually.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Think I actually think Chris, it's deeper than that. I
think this is the matrix. I think this is the bubble.
I think in their world, they only talk to people
who have their worldview, speak their language, their elitist language.
Uh No, I believe that's she really thinks that they
can't see beyond the matrix.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Donald Trump always does well.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
I guarantee you she's getting a social media report from
last week and it's saying a lot of things, so
there and so their their answer to that also was like,
it's a small minority of people.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
It's not a small minorary of people.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
It's it's it is smack dab in the middle of
your customer base saying this. They're saying they don't want this,
and you're saying, damn, the torpedoes go ahead.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
It's crazy those moments. All things Republican with Chris Walker
are consultant. He's a Republican consultant analysts. He's our contributor.
We left going into the weekend with that big Jackson
Hole summit, and how would Powell play it? You know
he would he kind of allude to, well, we saw
consumer price index down, but then we saw producer's price index.
(12:37):
That tells me this uncertainty and these undone tariff deals
are about to get to the customers. Quite frankly, I
probably ought to keep things no. Every verbal signal he
gave was that interest rate cuts were coming, and boy
did the market respond.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
All records s and.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
P sixty four to sixty seven, Nasdaq twenty one ninety seven,
Dow forty six and thirty two. And when it becomes
official and if we get a second cut or a
third cut, or if they're half point cuts, how might
the economy impact the mid terms next year?
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Because this is the flomy.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
The economy is the only thing that matters in the
midterms next year. It's it's the only equation that will
determine who wins the House and Senate. And President Trump
understands that, and so any any discussion or any kind
of activity. It's why he's been so adamant matureum pal
to try to cut rates earlier, because you know, we
want to make sure that we're you know, the economy
is in a good position heading into a growth cycle.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Heading in the next year.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
The economy is going to be issue one, two and
three for anybody going to the ballot box because ultimately
we're seeing it people are, you know, come saving more
money and not spending as much, which you know is
probably prudent, but also because it's it's a level of uncertainty.
People don't feel confident all the all the way of
the economy right now, and so you know, it's something
that that needs to be addressed. And I think, you know,
(13:57):
our interest rates is one piece of it, but so
is you know, fixing the debt problem, and you know,
kind of starting to turn off the never ending host
of spending out.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Of Washington, and there's something early need to be done there.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
And just the early hinting caused the Marcus to go
into record territory. The reality will send it somewhere well
into next year's midterm. Always a pleasure. Chris Walker, Republican
consultant and analysts.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
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Speaker 5 (15:41):
Hey, Michael, I are up from with the ads.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
I'm just wondering.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
If the in afhsical franchise store owners and.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
Decide not to do the logo change and preserve the
value that.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
They're all branch. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
The short answer is no, they don't. It's part of
the franchise agreement. In fact, if you go to the
headquarters here in Middle Tennessee, every franchise owner they walk
down this giant warehouse with isles. They have some ability
to pick different knickknacks, but they have to pick from
the knickknacks on all the isles, and certainly the logo
change would be universal or none at all.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
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they had, and this poor guy didn't have the rights
to sing his own music for decades. Finally, at eighty
years old, he gets the ability to sing the songs
he wrote again. And lucky for all of us, he
(17:22):
took care of himself and his voice, and he sounds
the same, and he's out with a new album and
he's touring. It was our Spotlight Interview of the Week
last week, and I got one discointed listener that called
and said he trump, I will not listen anymore. And
I'm just like, you know, we got to pick our battles, right.
I'm not willing to throw him out based on just that.
(17:43):
But read made the comment, well, if we use that criteria,
all will have as the village people in Lee Greenwood.
And I've a fell off my chair because it was true,
and it reminded me of when the Jesus Movement spread
from the West Coast and got all the way to Louisiana,
reached my freshman teacher and freshman football coach who then
(18:05):
taught a Bible study in my local high school cafeteria
that I attended, and the Jesus movement reached me. And
I remember him saying, oh, well, garbage at garbage out,
you just stopped plush. I did that satanic music like Toto,
and I was like Toto, Toto the Eagles, And I said,
(18:26):
so let me get to his house one day, Well,
what do you have and outcomes the Anita Bryant album
outcomes beach A.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Thomas, and I'm like, sorry, that just ain't gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
I'll get started on trying to quit smoking, but I
can't listen to that. Of course, that would all change
in about a year, two years, I'd have Amy Grant,
Michael W. Smith, Petra Phil Cagy, Russ taft Yanda Mucci,
Billy Crockett. I could go on and on. I didn't
just have good music as an old alternative. I had
(19:00):
better music. And that all begins with Love Song. Eight
years in the making, a powerful docuseries is finally arriving
on Amazon Pride. It's a three part epic that uncovers
the untold story of the first iconic Christian band. There's
so much more to the story than just that. But yes,
(19:23):
it was the birth of the Jesus movement. Yes, it
was the birth of Jesus music, and it all.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Began with Love Song.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
We caught up with Ron Strand, the executive producer, to
talk about how this was more than just a musical revolution.
It was a cultural awakening in America. Well, it really was.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
Michael started in the late sixties and from my perspective.
I was in Orange County, which was the basis of
this particular documentary with Love Song, where they came out
of Calvary Chapel and Chuck Smith. But the spirit of
God was moving throughout the country. Young hippies, as you said,
were coming to Christ and droves and and this band
(20:04):
was born out of that time. And it's quite a story,
that's that's told in the documentary and how they all
came from a drug culture and seeking you know, Eastern
mysticism and all kinds of different through health foods and
different things, all the way to finding this little country Church,
if you will, which which is one of their songs
(20:26):
called Little Country Church pastored by Chuck Smith. And these
hippies came to find Christ through that, through that movement.
And we can get into that a little bit, but
that's where that's where the genesis is of that, the
movement and the basic of basis of this documentary.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
In the late sixties, it was check out. I mean,
imagine somebody trying to find it a recipe for revival
and cultural awakening through checking out. Everything reminds me of
Paul in Greece and he just said, well, let's talk
about the statue over here to the unknown God. You
wouldn't expect it to come from drugs and hippies, and
(21:10):
yet here we are history as a way of repeating itself,
where moral relativism has run its course, all the searching
has run its course, all the lies, and this notion
there is no right and wrong, there is no absolute truth,
is kind of leading everybody back. That's what I think
makes this documentary so significant. We're living in an hour
that seems like an awakening again, doesn't it.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
It seems like it.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
It looks different than it did then, but it seems
like something's happening. And I think one of the things
that is evident, and particularly one of the one of
the guys, Tommy Cums, is in the in one of
the pieces of one of the episodes, is that you know,
we searched here, we searched there, We look for this,
we look for that, and it was just coming up empty, right,
(21:53):
there was nothing there. And so here's this, here's the
gospel presented to them basically in something solid that they
could sink their teeth into.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
And I don't think you know.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
I think the movie Jesus Revolution, everybody got a look
at Love Song themselves. They appear first in the living
room of Chuck Smith, then they start singing at the church.
What can't be appreciated today is how folky rock or
instruments themselves and then new verses that aren't hymns being
(22:27):
sung was so revolutionary. One of the things that you
touch on that I think is significant, Ron is the
endorsement of Billy Graham having them at expos seventy two.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
That was the stamp of the approval.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
And then we should talk a little bit about how
funny how God used music to really bring it to
life and spread it.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Well, that is that is for certain.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
You mentioned Explo seventy two, and we've got a piece
in there by Governor now Ambassador Mike Huckabee who was
at Explo seventy two Dallas and talks about his how
what it meant to him and the music, as you mentioned, Michael,
the music which is what related to the young hippies
(23:09):
at the time, and not only just hippies, kids across
the spectrum. You know, I wasn't a hippie. I mean,
I was just a kid partying, but I wasn't a hippie.
But the music drew me in and that's what you know,
it was something that was outside the walls of the
you know, church quote unquote church, that was outside the hymnals,
and there was now, all of a sudden, there's this
(23:31):
music I can relate to. There's drums, there's guitar, there's
lyrics in these songs that are that are not slamming
you across the face with the gospel, but they're they're
bringing it in in a way that is that just
kind of transpires the you know, the heart. And that's
what spoke to me. And Love Song in particular, for me,
(23:55):
was a band that really captured Now. I came along
a little bit later. I got saved in nineteen seventy six,
and Love Song actually he had already disbanded, I think
in seventy three, but their music was still there and vital.
And so the music of Love Song, and particularly Chuck Gerard,
who recently has passed away, and boy, you know, I
(24:18):
don't want to get off on a tangent at this point,
but we're really grateful that Chuck because he's been an
integral part of his sole project, yeah, up until even
a week before he passed. And so it's we're disheartened
that he won't be here to celebrate the release.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
But I was going to ask you on a side
note how much he had seen of the cuts, and.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
He's seen he has seen everything good. He's been intimately.
All the guys in the band, well, particularly Tommy Coom's
Jay Trix and Chuck Gerard.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
One has since deceased.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
And the other the drummer, John Mayler, has lived in
Sweden years and he really was not a part of
it in terms of he's featured in the Dock, but
he wasn't part of the making of the film.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
But you don't have Amy Grant, you don't have Michael W.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Smith, you don't have Deandi Mucci, you don't have White Heart,
you don't have any of these without these people. So
we all know the British invasion was the Beatles, but
we don't know the origins of contemporary Christian music. And
it came right in the heart of a cultural awakening
and a Jesus movement. And Ron Strand is joining us
the documentary of the band that doesn't get noticed enough,
a band called Love Song.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
My friend and I.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
We used to put on some of these old songs
later in life when we were in our twenties and
we go, oh man, that Phil Keagy that brings back
the joy of my salvation. I really think this documentary
is going to have that effect on them. You'll revisit
these artists, you'll revisit these songs, and you will revisit
the same Holy Spirit that hasn't left your side since
that may seem far away, and you'll experience the joy
(25:53):
of your salvation. And I'm excited how you tell this
story through today's legendary temporary Christian artists. I mean that
was probably what the most difficult part. Who do I
have that was influenced by this band? And I know
Michael W. Smith is in it, My dear friend Michelle
Polara is in it. You have several people in this
but that's very key to the story because this led
(26:16):
not just a cultural revolution, but a music revolution.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
This film is actually the backstory of Jesus Revolution. Really is,
because it's it's the same story you know that was
featuring Greg Laurie and particularly Lonnie Frisbee, who was a
big fan of love Song, who went around Lonnie. They
would they tell stories about how Lonnie they would be
They would be driving along on the Citic Coast Highway
(26:43):
in southern California. Lonnie would say, stop, stop, We're going
to go into that apartment right there. And Lonnie would
just go up to an apartment door. He would knock
on the door and some hippie you know, pot would
be coming out of the the you know, the door
from from them smoking in there. And he said he
just shared Christ with him and these kids would get saved.
It was an incredible time. Now, Lannie Lennie, Lonnie can
(27:06):
be a controversial figure, but there's no doubt that he
had a significant impact on on that movement. You know,
Chuck Smith embraced him and brought him in and he
was the one that related to these to these young
hippies at the time. And uh so, our story really
is the backstory, and it's it's it's about the band
(27:28):
love song, but really it's about the era called through
their Eyes.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
I'm so glad you said that, because I was watching
a Muhammad Ali documentary and Muhammad Ali is a fascinating
story in and of himself and and all the controversies
that went along with it and what and and really
kind of not so off camera was he was caught
in the middle of a tug of war between Islam
and Christianity.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
I mean, Martin Luther King Junior was.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Trying to get Muhammad Ali's soul saved, and meanwhile, you know,
the Brotherhood of Muslims.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
They won.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
But what was fast anything to me was all right.
So here's the documentary, I Muhammad Ali. What I'm watching
really is America in the background. And I think that's
what this documentary does. So if somebody's listening right now,
you're going, I really don't know Jesus, I really don't
care about the Jesus movement, or I don't know Christian music.
You'll like the view of America because the divided America
then is the same as the divided America today. And
(28:21):
the uniqueness of using hippies and drugs and questions and
searching everything but God that leads them to God and
spreads across across the country and it has influenced generations
to come. It all starts, ironically at the epicenter and
of all places, California, and of all people hippies, and
(28:42):
of all hippies that were recently out of jail or
not in a band called Love Song it, really it does.
It is a story that needs to be told to everyone.
And you tell it finally, eight years in the making,
and I'll tell you what you made good use of
your time because it looks amazing.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
There's been a lot of hours spent, you know, talking
about people that maybe weren't part of that era. Your
friend of mine who you and I have golf with.
In different comedian Jeff Allen. Yeah, he did a little
Peace for us as a promo for this, but he
tells the story. He says, you know, I was just
building my testimony then. I wasn't a Christian. I knew
(29:17):
nothing about this, And when he watched the film, he said,
this is absolutely amazing. I had no idea this stuff
was going on at that time. I was out, you know,
I was you know, it got as he calls it,
building my test It got to River.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Ridge, Louisiana in nineteen seventy eight. I was just trying
to get out of the cold. My friend was just
trying to get near Patty Burcada. They did Bible study.
So a product of the Jesus Movement and the Jesus
Revolution was our coach and a teacher and he's doing
Bible study at lunch, which I think would be a
lawsuit today.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
And that's how the Jesus Movement reached me.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
And that's all the way in Louisiana, and as you
know it, it reached my grandmother through the Charismatic Church
and father Bertolucci. So it all happened. It all started here,
and everybody, especially those who have hope of it happening again,
you'll want to watch Ron Strand's eight Years in the
Making documentary A band called Love Song and not only
(30:13):
led to changing America, it created the very contemporary Christian
music that I know a lot of you have loved
for years and years, and it is kind of the
backstory to the Jesus Revolution. So if you love that movie,
but even if you love America and just want to
see history as it's repeating itself, I highly recommend it
be out on Amazon Prime when about mid September.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
September nineteenth, it'll be available on Amazon Prime and Salem Now,
so it'll be on both platforms. We have non exclusive
with Amazon and so we're able to put it wherever
we want, and so we're trying to make it as
available as we can. We're also going to do some DVDs,
believe it or not, which a lot of people still use,
which was surprising to me. But everybody we've talked to
(30:54):
you said you got to do some DVDs because some people.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Still like it. I'll be watching it on Prime. Hey listening.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
It may seem like it's been a long struggle of
eight years, and it may seem oh, less fulfilling that
Chuck is gone. But you know what you need to
know this. We serve a God of yesterday, today, and forever.
He goes before, with and after. This must have been
the perfect time. And as I look at the trailers,
it was time well spent. God bless you. I hope
this reaches a lot of people. Thanks Michael. Can I
(31:22):
just give the website for folks that want to know more? Sure,
it's a band called lovesong dot com. A band called
loovesong dot com. They can find more about it there.
A band called lovesong dot com and the name of
the documentary Amazon prom Amazon Prime next month.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
A band called Lovesong.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
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Speaker 3 (33:20):
Well, I can't believe it's the last week of August.
National Guard troops are now armed in our nation's capital.
Powerballs at seven hundred and fifty million dollars. Jerome Poll
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(33:44):
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scam is targeting retirement accounts, and your savings could be
next National correspondent for your morning show, Roy O'Neil reveals
how it works and what you need to do to
keep yourself safe.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Good morning, Rory, Yeah, Good morning Michael.
Speaker 6 (34:05):
It's called the Phantom Hacker stam and as you said,
it's gotten about a billion dollars stolen from people in
just over the past year or so. It really is
a three level approach. First they'll try to pretend to
be someone with tech support, then they try to be
someone with your financial institution, then someone with the government.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
It all is trying to get the same thing.
Speaker 6 (34:26):
They want you to click on links, they want you
to give your information over the phone. This is a
reminder don't do any of that stuff. If you see
an email you don't know, delete it. If you get
a text you don't recognize, delete it, and never give
out information over the phone unless you're the one who
started the call.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Well, this goes for text this goes for emails. There's
a lot of other things you can look for that
give it away. But Rory, we can make fun of
that all we want. The truth of the matter is
it dupes everyday people, but it really dupes the older people.
Speaker 6 (34:54):
Right, and they're especially going after seniors with this one
because they've got the money set aside in those retires counts,
and they're using AI to scrub information, getting little pieces
of information about you that may get you to let
down your guard, and that's how they get in.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
So don't worry.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
What's the one what's the one fail safe thing you
can do? You never respond to those sources, but maybe
you go straight to the irs or straight to this
or straight to that. That's a pretty good fail safe.
Just don't respond to any of the texts or emails.
That's just not how they would contact and communicate.
Speaker 6 (35:25):
Make sure everyone in the family is on board as well,
the kids, the fifteen year old if they lose their
Social Security number at that age that could cause problems.
And make sure grandma and grandpa don't feel ashamed or
embarrassed about asking questions about this stuff. The more everyone
shares the information, they can explain this is a con
Just hang up and delete it.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Great reporting as always, worry, we'll talk again tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
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