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Welcome to Thursday, August, the twenty eighth year of Our Lord,
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got the sound red, keeping an eye on Well in
his peripheral vision. His bourbon collection but mainly the content,
and obviously all eyes are on Minneapolis and the tug
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of war of narrative. Again, I can't control, and I
certainly don't want to be a part of the problem.
I just like to remind us here at America's kitchen table,
this was an evil act of violence and a targeted
innocent children who were literally in prayer, kneeling in a church.
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It's not a social media event, it's not a public debate.
It's a human tragedy. And these kids and parents, the
only thing they need is not our opinion. They need
our prayers. Only a God can go in and fix
this stuff coming up in our sounds. A day, I'll
play a ten year old whose friend I'm trying to
think ten years old. Wow, fifth grade? I thought a
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bad day was mister case boring social studies class. These
kids are hearing gunfire, his friend falls on top of him,
takes a bullet in the back. These are things they
shouldn't be seeing, hearing, experiencing a tent, and they'll never
be the same for it. A living God, a merciful God,
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an all powerful God, is all that will help. My
posture is prayer, not debate, but there's a lot to
debate on, and there's a lot of things that one
side doesn't see. They can't acknowledge evil. They think Donald
Trump is evil, not the shooter. They can't acknowledge mental
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illness because you can't view gender identity disorder as a
mental illness anymore because they got to the psychiatric community
and now have it called gender dysphoria, so instead of
calling it mental illness, it's now affirmed virtue and everybody
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playing by the new wording guidelines. And so if you
can't see all of that, what's left Minneapolis? Her and guns?
I always bring things back to the matrix, because that's
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what you got to solve first. Now, lucky for you,
I knew we were going to have interesting economic times
and I didn't even see the tariff thing coming. And
I met a guy named David Bonson who's always on
Fox Business. He's with the Bonson Financial Group, presides over
the Dividendcafe dot com. Because I wanted a brilliant economic
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financial mind to give us all those things we'd be
embarrassed in class to raise our hand and ask that
we don't get but it impacts and affects us every day.
So I knew there would be a myriad of teachable more.
But I have a secret weapon. He's not just a
really smart guy, he's also a theologian. David Bonson is
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joining us. David, before we talk about AI or anything else,
Evil exists. I watched that twenty minute video. There's no
question in my mind that this individual was demon possessed. Literally,
and the reaction to the picture of Christ that he
had superimposed on a shooting target, and the guttural reaction
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different voice or as he was playing with the ammunition.
And I can't play clips because he used a lot
of bad language, but there's him talking, and when he
would talk, it was always apologetic. I know people are
going to be mad, they're not going to understand, they're
not going to forgive me. But when he talked about
the kids, it was a thirsting, passionate desire to harm them.
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I mean, this is the kind of stuff. This is
the devil. The devil hates God and the devil hates
his ciation. Why do we not discuss evil anymore? And
how important is it to acknowledge it exists? Michael?
Speaker 3 (05:07):
This is such important stuff and so heavy and the
reason we don't discuss evil is because once you've discussed
and identified evil, you have to have a response to evil.
And the response to evil is to change your own ways,
to change what is evil, to do good, and to
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identify a code of evil. A standard comes with a responsibility,
you know. Francis Schaeffer wrote the book how should we
then live? Once we've identified evil? How should we then live?
What does the response do this? It's why my late father,
who's the real theologian with the last name Bonson, who
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was a Christian intellectual, philosopher, ethicist, theologie and pastor my
whole life. He died in his forties, and he used
to talk about the fact that unbelief was always an
ethical thing. When someone says, I don't believe we have
a tendency to believe that it's intellectual, that they're trying
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to sort through it logically, when in reality the Bible
tells us it's because they don't want to embrace what
it means.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
For how they live.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
I think the existence of evil carries with it a
really powerful consequence, which is that if there is evil
in the world, there is good in the world, and
we have to listen to he who created the difference
between good and evil, and that is a burden too
high for some to carry.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Some think that nefarious is a take on the screw
shape letters. He brought up Francis Schaeffer, a hero of mine.
That would be another C. S. Lewis. And that is
the gospel told from the perspective of Lucifer as he
demon possesses a serial killer and one of the great
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delights in the movie. I mean, you can tell this
demon has a lot of different views and so on,
but just delighted in telling this guy his girlfriend is
aborting his child, and you experience the moment of the
abortion through the demon, through the serial killer. It's just
it's a movie you'll watch once and you'll never want
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to experience it again. When I was watching this kid's
twenty minute video, the delight, I mean, the audible reaction
to Christ's image was very telling. And the creepy delight
in killing children, as if he knows that's going to
hurt the most, very very much like Satan, right, I mean,
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obviously hates God in rebellion with God, and hates and
is enviously jealous of our relationship with God and the
way he loves his creation that all comes out in
this And yet we can't call it evil because we
don't discuss evil, because evil would demand us to respond,
and we think Donald Trump is evil, so that can't
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be in the narrative. We can't call it mental illness.
And we're only missing everything, aren't we. And it's right
in front of us, that's right.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
And I haven't seen the video and I wouldn't be
able to watch twenty seconds of it if I did.
When just even hearing your description, it's so abundantly clear
that this gets to the heart of darkness, the most
evil component of sin having entered the world. This is
the stuff we just don't talk about at parties. It's
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just too dark and evil. And the antidote has got
to be a Christian witness of light and love and
peace and a presentation of the Gospel and those things
that can change the hearts of men.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
All right, let me let me do a quick let
me do a quick one for you. All right, So
we know that good triumphs over evil. What is good?
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Well, that's the thing is what is good if one
doesn't believe in God? And for that matter, what is evil? Again?
To continue quoting my great father. He used to say
that if there was no God, then kicking children would
be like kicking pebbles. If everything is just raw matter,
raw material, then we don't have a real moral distinction
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between these different things. What is good and evil is
defined by God and his moral standards, and so because
morality reflects our God, he told us that thou shalt
not murder. He told us the sanctity of life because
He created all human beings in his image with dignity.
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He told us things like private property. He told us
things like the fidelity of marriage and sexual ethics. So
across these different categories of life, when we think about
what is good and what is evil, it is defined
by God, the law giver. And if it isn't defined
by God, then everybody gets to create their own standard.
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And that's the Nietzschean hit Murian Hegelian disgusting sense of
morality that has led to everybody being God in their
own eyes, which last I checked, was actually the first
commandment itself, thou shalt have no other.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Gods before Me.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
But this is what mankind has done since Adam and
Eve is try to make themselves God, to eat of
the tree and knowledge of good and evil, as if
we are God and he is not. But there's one
thing the Bible tells us about good and evil, the
one thing we need to take away that then gets
translated into what we understand about all these real life issues.
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The one thing I need to know is that he
is God and I am not.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
David Bonce and our money was this also a theologian,
And we're all trying to process what happened in Minnesota.
Clearly the legacy media is not capable of it. You know,
I love everything you said there. I guess the next
question would be in processing all of this, how much
are we a part of the problem In a sense
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that I'm just going to shock a lot of people
when I say it. As much as the left is
wrong to focus on the guns, the right could be
wrong to focus on mental illness and transgendered and mis evil.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
True or false, Well, theoretically it could be very true.
I think some people may not be focusing on the transgenderism,
but rather pointing out the hypocrisy that there is a
real selectivity of when the mainstream media wants to focus
on certain issues and when they want to ignore it.
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I would argue that from everything I'm seeing, and we
don't know everything.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
First of all, for me.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
In the immediate aftermath, there's only one thing that matters.
That's the victims and their families.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
But if at some point there's time for a sober assessment,
do I think this man's moral illness? Mental illness to
me provides escape from culpability to provide you know, we
don't punish people who have cancer for good reason. I'm
not comfortable with the term mental illness, although I know
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what people mean by it. It's deranged, but it's morally deranged.
But is it going to come out in the end
that this man's transgenderism and murderous tendencies are connected to
the same evil. I think it is, but no, I
don't right now. I'm with you, Michael. The heart of
our heart's focus is on the victims and the sadness period.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
All right. Final question is I think people whenever these
things come up, they say, how could a loving, merciful
God have allowed something like this to happen.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
I have two things I need to say about this
as we wrap up. Number one is that it's a
very very very fair question, and anyone who doesn't from
time to time ask it, as Mother Theresa did through
her entire life. Is part of our humanity. It is
part of the difference between God and us that we
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can't comprehend these things. And because I'm limited by finite
circumstances and God is not, it is entirely understandable that
sometimes you just have to take a beat and say,
how does God let this happen? And yet the second
part I want to say is that it isn't evil
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if there is no God. That what makes it evil
is the fact that there is a foundation of right
and wrong in the world created by an omnipotent, omniscient God.
And if God has a moral purpose for such immoral
things happening, then that's why He's got and I'm not.
But I don't expect anybody to intellectually understand that. That
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gets to the heart of faith that we have to have,
and sometimes faith is hard.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
I don't know how to put spirit into words. I
would just tell you that if we have any identity
outside of Christ, we have an identity this for you
or you know what I mean, And so you know,
you know, we played loose with some of the Ten Commandments,
but then we're appalled when the murder one is played.
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You know we're all in this and there's something to
learn from it. I always say this, I think you're
so brilliant when it comes to the economy and money,
and we have so much to learn from you. My
favorite thing is still, even though you're younger by years,
you're still such a respected older brother in Christ. Thank
you for your spirit, your wisdom, and your character. Today
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we needed it. Well, Thank you, Michael. Appreciate what's on
the Dividend Cafe tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Well, we're we're going to be going after the federal government,
buying Intel, buying other companies, starting a sovereign wealth fund.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
We need to reset the deck.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Here and Dividing Cafe is pulling no punches tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Did we not learn anything from Selindra, David Bonce and
my brother in Christ? I love you, God bless you.
I'm off next week, so that means you're off of
this next week, but I'll talk to you shortly after that.
God bless Michael.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
This is your morning show with Michael del Chono.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
A new fifty percent tariff has been slapped on India. Well,
here's a question of the hour. How do you slap
India with the tariff for buying oil from Russia, not China.
John Decker's at the White House, he'll at the very latest.
That's all coming up next half hour. Bottom line on
a lot of your top packs. Obviously, this topic is
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one that's very difficult to communicate in thirty seconds or less.
So I think, without fail, every single one of them
went into the Oscar Awards night orchestra because your time
ran out, and there seems to be a bit of
a juggle on your part between mental illness and evil.
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And I think anybody that watched his twenty minute video
would say, yeah, it's definitely mentally ill. It would be
interesting to know what drugsy was on. It's hard to
believe nobody noticed this and that his parents are allowing
him to buy guns in this condition, but you would
see a lot of things like you've never seen before
that really point to evil was the ultimate culprit of this.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Missus Patrick from Christiana, Tennessee. My morning show is your
Morning Show with Michael dell Jorno.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
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than never. Enjoy the podcast. I want to play a
couple of quick clips. At the beginning of this video.
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You can hear kind of his normal voice. There's a
lot of whispering too, that's almost a different voice. That
voice is always the one voice says, you know, people
aren't gonna understand this. I apologize ahead of time. It's
almost like I can't stop myself. I'm sorry kind of
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a thing. Now other zvil or mental illness is up
to you to decide. But then the other whispering voices
is always violent. And then there are these guttural complete
changes in voices. So this one you're gonna hear just
I can't play much of him because his language, but
you'll hear his normal voice talking about his gun. And
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then when he the camera pans and shows the picture
in the image of christ on the super imposed on
a shooting target. Watch the different reaction. Yeah, watch my
name le Go bang So that's the and then the
you know, there's this one too that's this kind of guttural.
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So I mean, I'm not just throwing out I'm not
afraid to talk about crazy, but there this twenty minute
video has a lot of evil and demonic possession type
things in it, whether it was real or that's what
he wanted. But the way, if you watch it in
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its context of twenty minutes, he goes back and forth.
I mean, the movie Nefarious comes to mind more than
some of these other issues. So but again, we live
in a matrix, and so the left is wanting to
give you guns and wanting to give you Donald Trump
overseeing his political authority and going into states. That's not
a theme at all in this What is a theme
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is a hatred of God and a hatred of God's creation,
particularly Christians and Jews. Roy O'Neil's been following the story
and in area that's where the manifesto in the video
come in, most of which has been taken offline, but
people knew to save it on their servers that it
was going to come offline, and so it's there for
all to see. Very troubled individual, that's for sure.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
Yeah, certainly in many ways. You know, Minnesota does have
red flag laws. You wonder if people were not aware
that they could use them or something to say, hey, police,
we think this person may be in imminent danger of
harming themselves or others, and they could have perhaps taken
action to remove the guns from the home. But that's
all speculation at this point. But clearly some disturbing stuff,
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all of it posted there on websites that do you.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Try to think it in? What do you make of?
Probably more importantly as a report, what is law enforcement making?
This is the first to leave many messages on the weapons.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
Yeah, that was something different. You know, three different weapons
were used in this case. It looked like there were
more clips and things that this person had that were
not used. You're just judging by the count, but it
was something thirty plus shots were fired into the church.
Haven't gotten that exact number yet, but still that's what
they're thinking. And some of the magazines there look much larger,
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so we'll have to see. But yeah, I was not
familiar with that much writing on guns. It was disturbing
for christ and Christians. Where's your God?
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Question mark on another one, where's your effing God? Now
do you believe in God? Still a mocking of the
Eucharist and Communion For the anti Semitic comments he had written,
six million wasn't enough, referencing the Holocaust, jew Gas, Israel
must fall, burn Israel, politically killed Trump New India. That's
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why I just and then a kind of constant on
all of them were different names of other mass shooters,
from Sandy Hook to synagogue shooters to to others. I mean,
all very very very troubling stuff. And it's been very
very little mentioned, quite frankly about those red flag laws.
I mean, how could somebody this deranged be normal around
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his parents, normal around friends, normal around the community.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
Yeah, yeah, well well, and then writing it with a
cyrillic alphabet just odd. But yeah, no one was saying, hey,
you know, maybe he shouldn't or they shouldn't be buying
weapon after weapon and all these bullets and all this stuff,
and I don't know what their source of income was
and that sort of thing. But yeah, I mean, really,
this wasn't raising red flags to anybody. Granted no criminal history,
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the guns were all purchased legally, but yeah, it's fascinated
that this was allowed. It seems like this was allowed
to develop in the open.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
And then what about the similarities with the Covenant shooting
here in Nashville. I mean, so this is a transgendered individual,
this is a school in church he attended. Nobody in
the media is talking about that. I did see one
strange and I don't know if it's been pulled reference
to he may have worked at a marijuana store, you know,
but we don't know what kind of drugs he was on,
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or how this all spun out of control. Let's do condition.
We lost an eight year old and a ten year older.
Thoughts and prayers are obviously with those families and for
every child that experienced this horror and will live with
it the rest of their life. How about everybody that's
in the hospital. The good news is we don't we
think everyone's going to survive. That's being treated, right. So
seventeen other people were wounded. I think at least four
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of them needed surgeries. But the victims those wounded, fourteen
of them were children. Three others also injured adults. I
think a couple very elderly people who would have attended
this mass that was held apparently every Wednesday, when the
kids would come over from the school in a neighboring
building on the church complex. So this would have been
a typical Wednesday mask that they would have had there,
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but obviously more special since this would have been the
first one of this academic year. Roory O'Neil, appreciate your
reporting all morning long. We'll talk again tomorrow, all right.
I'm not going to do sounds of the day intro
and make light of it. You know, I started the
show the way I posted yesterday after it happened, which is,
this is an evil act of violence targeting children, innocent
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children who were literally in the act of kneeling and
praying in church. This is evil. It's not a social
media event, and it's not a public debate. It's a
human tragedy. And what these kids all need and what
these parents all need are our prayers, not our opinions.
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And I don't feel any differently nearly twenty four hours later,
even with what you're about to here and what I
saw the media do with it. And we've talked a
little bit about the nature of God, the nature of evil,
because this act left some clues. But at the end
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of the day, if you're going to spend it any
useful time. Don't waste it typing, don don't waste it
expressing shock or outrage. Use it praying to a living
God that can go and make a difference and heal
these hearts and minds. Having said that, let's keep the
focus on the kids, the living and the things they
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never should have heard and saw. Here's one ten year
old that was in the shooting.
Speaker 6 (24:40):
It was like the shots fired and then he kind
of like got under the pews. He kind of they
shot through the the stained glass windows, I think, and
it was really scary.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
What did you do after that? I waited like ten.
Speaker 6 (25:01):
To five minutes, I don't really know. And then we
went to the gym and then the doors locked just
to make sure he didn't come. And who waited in
the gym for more news? And everyone was okay.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
You know what's interesting. This is a ten year old
boy who hit the deck immediately his friend laid on
top of him. His friend, who got shot in the back,
was treated. He's still in the hospital but expected to
recover things ten year olds should not be experiencing. This
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clip is my most tempting to get mad and want
to say a lot. This is Jen Saki former White
House spokesperson for Joe Biden, in other words, political operative
turned news reporter talking to the mayor of Minneapolis. You know,
earlier we shared a headline from the New York Times
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Minneapolis suspect knew her target. Motive is a mystery. Are
you serious? Did they not see the manifesto? Did they
not see what was written on the weapons? Did they
not watch a twenty minute video suspect, he tells you
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what he's gonna do before he's gonna do it. He
even picks out what he's gonna wear, even shows you
a fourth weapon, which was a revolver that he said
was going to be for him. There's no question who
did it, and there's no question on the motive. But
watch Jensaki's warning to her viewers. Listen, Oh wait, I
gotta do it from here.
Speaker 7 (26:48):
There has already been sort of some effort, which I
think is so sick and disgusting to weaponize some of
the details, even if we don't know a lot at
this point in time, and obviously the law enforcement in
your say, have been keeping people abreast.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
So disgusting to weaponize any of the details. By the way,
when she talks about prematurely. The manifesto has already been revealed.
The church diagram, his drawing and the knife going into it,
the words of every page of his manifesto, everything he
wrote on his weapons and ammunition, everything him verbally telling you,
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but watch how disgusting it would be for someone to
weaponize this and focus on transgender But it's okay for
her to weaponize and focus simply on the weapons. Listen,
it's really it's a form of mental illness in a way.
Speaker 7 (27:42):
Details about the individual possibly being trands, about the individual
possibly having negative things to say about Trump, about some
things that have been on the weapons. A lot of
this is just very early reporting. What do you do
as a leader of your city to prevent details from
being weaponized and using this to blame something other than
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the guns?
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Can you believe what you just heard? What do you
do to ignore facts? What do you do to ignore truth?
What do you do to spin and narrativize this so
that people don't focus on anything other than the gun?
Never mind his motive, never mind what was his mental illness,
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demon possession or evil. We gotta ignore all that. That's
a weapon. As she weaponizes the guns and the mayor answers.
Speaker 8 (28:36):
First off, anybody who is using this as an opportunity
to villainize trans people has completely lost touch with the
common humanity. Operate not off of hate for any community.
Operate off of love for our kids. Kids died today.
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This should be about protecting our children. This should be
about loving our children. And far too often I feel
like people will think of the conclusion that they want
to get to and then they'll like reverse manufacture the facts.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
That they're as they are doing it in real time.
They can't call it evil because Trump's evil, not this.
They can't point to transgenderism though that's front and center
in this shooting, as it was in the Covenant shooting
in Nashville and in South Carolina. We've got to keep
ignoring that because that's not mental illness anymore. We got
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the psychiatric community to reverse that from being gender disorder
mental illness to gender dysphoria. So we can't call that
illness because it has to be affirmed virtue and normal.
But look at how they're doing, what they're condemning as
they're doing it. Not enough has been made. I mean,
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can you imagine and if this had been a maga
person shooting Joe Biden. What they be doing with it?
Never mind all the references to kill Trump and being
just a day or two after their own governor Tim
Walls said this, Think of how easy it would be
to be a damn Republican. Oh what should I wear today?
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This stupid freaking red hat? What should I say today?
I don't know. Just make sure it's cruel. Who do
we listen to that guy? Oh, the felon in the
White House. Yeah, listen to him and that will be fine.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Now he's talking about burning flags.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
He's gonna have flag burning or whatever because he knows
there's a hell of a lot of flags with.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
His picture on it that are going to get burned.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
There's a whole lot of that kind of crap that
people are sick of.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
And I have to tell you we.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Can have our internal decision making, our internal healthy.
Speaker 8 (30:50):
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Speaker 1 (30:53):
Do not have the luxury to fight amongst ourselves. Why
that thing sets in the White House, Well, that's thing
sits in the White House. Well one of his residents,
obviously inspired by that, did something about it. Couldn't get
to the president. Neither could two other assassins. We did
get to some children, but don't notice the evil, don't
(31:17):
notice the mental illness. Make sure you only notice the gun,
all right, everybody block alad.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Look, you've just got to try harder not to show.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
I'm gna have the opportunity for a brief civics lesson. Sure,
perhaps you'd like to be alone with you at a
deteriorating mental condition. Politics, I don't know us apart. And
that's your Sounds of the day for this Thursday, August
the twenty eighth year of Our Lord twenty twenty five.
John Decker from the White House coming up next. Jeffer,
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Morning Show online dot com. Fifty six minutes after the hour,
two children, ages eight and ten, are dead. Seventeen others
were wounded after the Catholic school shooting in Minneapolis. As
we just heard from Roo O'Neil. All of them are
(33:40):
expected to recover, which is wonderful news. And our thoughts
and prayers are with the two families that lost an
eight to ten year old. And that's the best use
of your time. This isn't a debate or an opinion fest.
This is an act of evil and people are hurting
and only God can help help the wounded hearts in
my mind in this case, So spend your time, resist all
(34:02):
other temptations, and spend your time praying. All right, Well,
we knew this day was coming. The fifty tariffs slapped
on India for purchasing oil. China buys oil from Russia
as well. Now what do you do? John Decker from
the White House is here. John, This comes flat in center.
Now there's no avoid to get any longer.
Speaker 9 (34:22):
That's right, Yeah, the President pulling the trigger imposing those
fifty percent trade tariffs on India. And that's because India
continues to purchase large volumes of oil from Russia every day,
and that sustains Russia's economy, it sustains their war effort
against Ukraine. And the President says, we need to squeeze
Russia's economy. So that's the reason for those secondary tariffs,
(34:44):
as he calls them. But interestingly enough, Michael, he is
not yet imposed secondary tariffs on China, and China actually
purchases the most oil from Russia. So we'll have to
wait and see if the President decides to do something
like that anytime.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
So Goose Meat Gander, Well, you don't even have a
deal with China, so and this would certainly disrupt any
ability to get a deal with China. But I don't
know how you try to have your cake and eat
it too, do it to India not to China. Plus,
there's a better solution than that is just get any
to stop buying from Russia and maybe help provide them
with the energy resources they need. Has there been any
(35:21):
talk of that.
Speaker 9 (35:23):
Well, that's a possibility. I don't know if there's talk
of that. You know, there have been agoing trade discussions
involving Jamison Greer, he's the US Trade representative as well
as the Treasury Secretary Scott Desson. They have not given
us a readout in terms of how close they are
to getting that trade deal done. The President had given
(35:43):
an additional ninety days, you know, any intention to get
that trade deal done, So we'll see what happens.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
You know.
Speaker 9 (35:50):
I think that the reason why the President had not
imposed these secondary tariffs on China is because he thought
perhaps that it would you know, essentially create a block.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
And John I'll be back with more his White House
briefing room with John Decker. You'll find that on the
iHeart app. And we'll see you tomorrow morning at five.
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Welcome to Thursday, August, the twenty eighth year of Our Lord,
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got the sound red, keeping an eye on Well in
his peripheral vision. His bourbon collection but mainly the content,
and obviously all eyes are on Minneapolis and the tug
(01:10):
of war of narrative. Again, I can't control, and I
certainly don't want to be a part of the problem.
I just like to remind us here at America's kitchen table,
this was an evil act of violence and a targeted
innocent children who were literally in prayer, kneeling in a church.
(01:32):
It's not a social media event, it's not a public debate.
It's a human tragedy. And these kids and parents, the
only thing they need is not our opinion. They need
our prayers. Only a God can go in and fix
this stuff coming up in our sounds. A day, I'll
play a ten year old whose friend I'm trying to
think ten years old. Wow, fifth grade? I thought a
(01:58):
bad day was mister case boring social studies class. These
kids are hearing gunfire, his friend falls on top of him,
takes a bullet in the back. These are things they
shouldn't be seeing, hearing, experiencing a tent, and they'll never
be the same for it. A living God, a merciful God,
(02:19):
an all powerful God, is all that will help. My
posture is prayer, not debate, but there's a lot to
debate on, and there's a lot of things that one
side doesn't see. They can't acknowledge evil. They think Donald
Trump is evil, not the shooter. They can't acknowledge mental
(02:39):
illness because you can't view gender identity disorder as a
mental illness anymore because they got to the psychiatric community
and now have it called gender dysphoria, so instead of
calling it mental illness, it's now affirmed virtue and everybody
(03:01):
playing by the new wording guidelines. And so if you
can't see all of that, what's left Minneapolis? Her and guns?
I always bring things back to the matrix, because that's
(03:22):
what you got to solve first. Now, lucky for you,
I knew we were going to have interesting economic times
and I didn't even see the tariff thing coming. And
I met a guy named David Bonson who's always on
Fox Business. He's with the Bonson Financial Group, presides over
the Dividendcafe dot com. Because I wanted a brilliant economic
(03:47):
financial mind to give us all those things we'd be
embarrassed in class to raise our hand and ask that
we don't get but it impacts and affects us every day.
So I knew there would be a myriad of teachable more.
But I have a secret weapon. He's not just a
really smart guy, he's also a theologian. David Bonson is
(04:09):
joining us. David, before we talk about AI or anything else,
Evil exists. I watched that twenty minute video. There's no
question in my mind that this individual was demon possessed. Literally,
and the reaction to the picture of Christ that he
had superimposed on a shooting target, and the guttural reaction
(04:30):
different voice or as he was playing with the ammunition.
And I can't play clips because he used a lot
of bad language, but there's him talking, and when he
would talk, it was always apologetic. I know people are
going to be mad, they're not going to understand, they're
not going to forgive me. But when he talked about
the kids, it was a thirsting, passionate desire to harm them.
(04:51):
I mean, this is the kind of stuff. This is
the devil. The devil hates God and the devil hates
his ciation. Why do we not discuss evil anymore? And
how important is it to acknowledge it exists? Michael?
Speaker 3 (05:07):
This is such important stuff and so heavy and the
reason we don't discuss evil is because once you've discussed
and identified evil, you have to have a response to evil.
And the response to evil is to change your own ways,
to change what is evil, to do good, and to
(05:31):
identify a code of evil. A standard comes with a responsibility,
you know. Francis Schaeffer wrote the book how should we
then live? Once we've identified evil? How should we then live?
What does the response do this? It's why my late father,
who's the real theologian with the last name Bonson, who
(05:55):
was a Christian intellectual, philosopher, ethicist, theologie and pastor my
whole life. He died in his forties, and he used
to talk about the fact that unbelief was always an
ethical thing. When someone says, I don't believe we have
a tendency to believe that it's intellectual, that they're trying
(06:15):
to sort through it logically, when in reality the Bible
tells us it's because they don't want to embrace what
it means.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
For how they live.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
I think the existence of evil carries with it a
really powerful consequence, which is that if there is evil
in the world, there is good in the world, and
we have to listen to he who created the difference
between good and evil, and that is a burden too
high for some to carry.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Some think that nefarious is a take on the screw
shape letters. He brought up Francis Schaeffer, a hero of mine.
That would be another C. S. Lewis. And that is
the gospel told from the perspective of Lucifer as he
demon possesses a serial killer and one of the great
(07:09):
delights in the movie. I mean, you can tell this
demon has a lot of different views and so on,
but just delighted in telling this guy his girlfriend is
aborting his child, and you experience the moment of the
abortion through the demon, through the serial killer. It's just
it's a movie you'll watch once and you'll never want
(07:30):
to experience it again. When I was watching this kid's
twenty minute video, the delight, I mean, the audible reaction
to Christ's image was very telling. And the creepy delight
in killing children, as if he knows that's going to
hurt the most, very very much like Satan, right, I mean,
(07:56):
obviously hates God in rebellion with God, and hates and
is enviously jealous of our relationship with God and the
way he loves his creation that all comes out in
this And yet we can't call it evil because we
don't discuss evil, because evil would demand us to respond,
and we think Donald Trump is evil, so that can't
(08:16):
be in the narrative. We can't call it mental illness.
And we're only missing everything, aren't we. And it's right
in front of us, that's right.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
And I haven't seen the video and I wouldn't be
able to watch twenty seconds of it if I did.
When just even hearing your description, it's so abundantly clear
that this gets to the heart of darkness, the most
evil component of sin having entered the world. This is
the stuff we just don't talk about at parties. It's
(08:46):
just too dark and evil. And the antidote has got
to be a Christian witness of light and love and
peace and a presentation of the Gospel and those things
that can change the hearts of men.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
All right, let me let me do a quick let
me do a quick one for you. All right, So
we know that good triumphs over evil. What is good?
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Well, that's the thing is what is good if one
doesn't believe in God? And for that matter, what is evil? Again?
To continue quoting my great father. He used to say
that if there was no God, then kicking children would
be like kicking pebbles. If everything is just raw matter,
raw material, then we don't have a real moral distinction
(09:34):
between these different things. What is good and evil is
defined by God and his moral standards, and so because
morality reflects our God, he told us that thou shalt
not murder. He told us the sanctity of life because
He created all human beings in his image with dignity.
(09:54):
He told us things like private property. He told us
things like the fidelity of marriage and sexual ethics. So
across these different categories of life, when we think about
what is good and what is evil, it is defined
by God, the law giver. And if it isn't defined
by God, then everybody gets to create their own standard.
(10:17):
And that's the Nietzschean hit Murian Hegelian disgusting sense of
morality that has led to everybody being God in their
own eyes, which last I checked, was actually the first
commandment itself, thou shalt have no other.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Gods before Me.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
But this is what mankind has done since Adam and
Eve is try to make themselves God, to eat of
the tree and knowledge of good and evil, as if
we are God and he is not. But there's one
thing the Bible tells us about good and evil, the
one thing we need to take away that then gets
translated into what we understand about all these real life issues.
(10:54):
The one thing I need to know is that he
is God and I am not.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
David Bonce and our money was this also a theologian,
And we're all trying to process what happened in Minnesota.
Clearly the legacy media is not capable of it. You know,
I love everything you said there. I guess the next
question would be in processing all of this, how much
are we a part of the problem In a sense
(11:21):
that I'm just going to shock a lot of people
when I say it. As much as the left is
wrong to focus on the guns, the right could be
wrong to focus on mental illness and transgendered and mis evil.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
True or false, Well, theoretically it could be very true.
I think some people may not be focusing on the transgenderism,
but rather pointing out the hypocrisy that there is a
real selectivity of when the mainstream media wants to focus
on certain issues and when they want to ignore it.
(11:56):
I would argue that from everything I'm seeing, and we
don't know everything.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
First of all, for me.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
In the immediate aftermath, there's only one thing that matters.
That's the victims and their families.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
But if at some point there's time for a sober assessment,
do I think this man's moral illness? Mental illness to
me provides escape from culpability to provide you know, we
don't punish people who have cancer for good reason. I'm
not comfortable with the term mental illness, although I know
(12:30):
what people mean by it. It's deranged, but it's morally deranged.
But is it going to come out in the end
that this man's transgenderism and murderous tendencies are connected to
the same evil. I think it is, but no, I
don't right now. I'm with you, Michael. The heart of
our heart's focus is on the victims and the sadness period.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
All right. Final question is I think people whenever these
things come up, they say, how could a loving, merciful
God have allowed something like this to happen.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
I have two things I need to say about this
as we wrap up. Number one is that it's a
very very very fair question, and anyone who doesn't from
time to time ask it, as Mother Theresa did through
her entire life. Is part of our humanity. It is
part of the difference between God and us that we
(13:24):
can't comprehend these things. And because I'm limited by finite
circumstances and God is not, it is entirely understandable that
sometimes you just have to take a beat and say,
how does God let this happen? And yet the second
part I want to say is that it isn't evil
(13:45):
if there is no God. That what makes it evil
is the fact that there is a foundation of right
and wrong in the world created by an omnipotent, omniscient God.
And if God has a moral purpose for such immoral
things happening, then that's why He's got and I'm not.
But I don't expect anybody to intellectually understand that. That
(14:08):
gets to the heart of faith that we have to have,
and sometimes faith is hard.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
I don't know how to put spirit into words. I
would just tell you that if we have any identity
outside of Christ, we have an identity this for you
or you know what I mean, And so you know,
you know, we played loose with some of the Ten Commandments,
but then we're appalled when the murder one is played.
(14:34):
You know we're all in this and there's something to
learn from it. I always say this, I think you're
so brilliant when it comes to the economy and money,
and we have so much to learn from you. My
favorite thing is still, even though you're younger by years,
you're still such a respected older brother in Christ. Thank
you for your spirit, your wisdom, and your character. Today
(14:56):
we needed it. Well, Thank you, Michael. Appreciate what's on
the Dividend Cafe tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Well, we're we're going to be going after the federal government,
buying Intel, buying other companies, starting a sovereign wealth fund.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
We need to reset the deck.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Here and Dividing Cafe is pulling no punches tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Did we not learn anything from Selindra, David Bonce and
my brother in Christ? I love you, God bless you.
I'm off next week, so that means you're off of
this next week, but I'll talk to you shortly after that.
God bless Michael.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
This is your morning show with Michael del Chono.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
A new fifty percent tariff has been slapped on India. Well,
here's a question of the hour. How do you slap
India with the tariff for buying oil from Russia, not China.
John Decker's at the White House, he'll at the very latest.
That's all coming up next half hour. Bottom line on
a lot of your top packs. Obviously, this topic is
(15:55):
one that's very difficult to communicate in thirty seconds or less.
So I think, without fail, every single one of them
went into the Oscar Awards night orchestra because your time
ran out, and there seems to be a bit of
a juggle on your part between mental illness and evil.
(16:16):
And I think anybody that watched his twenty minute video
would say, yeah, it's definitely mentally ill. It would be
interesting to know what drugsy was on. It's hard to
believe nobody noticed this and that his parents are allowing
him to buy guns in this condition, but you would
see a lot of things like you've never seen before
that really point to evil was the ultimate culprit of this.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Missus Patrick from Christiana, Tennessee. My morning show is your
Morning Show with Michael dell Jorno.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
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than never. Enjoy the podcast. I want to play a
couple of quick clips. At the beginning of this video.
(17:16):
You can hear kind of his normal voice. There's a
lot of whispering too, that's almost a different voice. That
voice is always the one voice says, you know, people
aren't gonna understand this. I apologize ahead of time. It's
almost like I can't stop myself. I'm sorry kind of
(17:36):
a thing. Now other zvil or mental illness is up
to you to decide. But then the other whispering voices
is always violent. And then there are these guttural complete
changes in voices. So this one you're gonna hear just
I can't play much of him because his language, but
you'll hear his normal voice talking about his gun. And
(17:57):
then when he the camera pans and shows the picture
in the image of christ on the super imposed on
a shooting target. Watch the different reaction. Yeah, watch my
name le Go bang So that's the and then the
you know, there's this one too that's this kind of guttural.
(18:22):
So I mean, I'm not just throwing out I'm not
afraid to talk about crazy, but there this twenty minute
video has a lot of evil and demonic possession type
things in it, whether it was real or that's what
he wanted. But the way, if you watch it in
(18:44):
its context of twenty minutes, he goes back and forth.
I mean, the movie Nefarious comes to mind more than
some of these other issues. So but again, we live
in a matrix, and so the left is wanting to
give you guns and wanting to give you Donald Trump
overseeing his political authority and going into states. That's not
a theme at all in this What is a theme
(19:06):
is a hatred of God and a hatred of God's creation,
particularly Christians and Jews. Roy O'Neil's been following the story
and in area that's where the manifesto in the video
come in, most of which has been taken offline, but
people knew to save it on their servers that it
was going to come offline, and so it's there for
all to see. Very troubled individual, that's for sure.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
Yeah, certainly in many ways. You know, Minnesota does have
red flag laws. You wonder if people were not aware
that they could use them or something to say, hey, police,
we think this person may be in imminent danger of
harming themselves or others, and they could have perhaps taken
action to remove the guns from the home. But that's
all speculation at this point. But clearly some disturbing stuff,
(19:52):
all of it posted there on websites that do you.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Try to think it in? What do you make of?
Probably more importantly as a report, what is law enforcement making?
This is the first to leave many messages on the weapons.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
Yeah, that was something different. You know, three different weapons
were used in this case. It looked like there were
more clips and things that this person had that were
not used. You're just judging by the count, but it
was something thirty plus shots were fired into the church.
Haven't gotten that exact number yet, but still that's what
they're thinking. And some of the magazines there look much larger,
(20:28):
so we'll have to see. But yeah, I was not
familiar with that much writing on guns. It was disturbing
for christ and Christians. Where's your God?
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Question mark on another one, where's your effing God? Now
do you believe in God? Still a mocking of the
Eucharist and Communion For the anti Semitic comments he had written,
six million wasn't enough, referencing the Holocaust, jew Gas, Israel
must fall, burn Israel, politically killed Trump New India. That's
(21:01):
why I just and then a kind of constant on
all of them were different names of other mass shooters,
from Sandy Hook to synagogue shooters to to others. I mean,
all very very very troubling stuff. And it's been very
very little mentioned, quite frankly about those red flag laws.
I mean, how could somebody this deranged be normal around
(21:26):
his parents, normal around friends, normal around the community.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
Yeah, yeah, well well, and then writing it with a
cyrillic alphabet just odd. But yeah, no one was saying, hey,
you know, maybe he shouldn't or they shouldn't be buying
weapon after weapon and all these bullets and all this stuff,
and I don't know what their source of income was
and that sort of thing. But yeah, I mean, really,
this wasn't raising red flags to anybody. Granted no criminal history,
(21:53):
the guns were all purchased legally, but yeah, it's fascinated
that this was allowed. It seems like this was allowed
to develop in the open.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
And then what about the similarities with the Covenant shooting
here in Nashville. I mean, so this is a transgendered individual,
this is a school in church he attended. Nobody in
the media is talking about that. I did see one
strange and I don't know if it's been pulled reference
to he may have worked at a marijuana store, you know,
but we don't know what kind of drugs he was on,
(22:25):
or how this all spun out of control. Let's do condition.
We lost an eight year old and a ten year older.
Thoughts and prayers are obviously with those families and for
every child that experienced this horror and will live with
it the rest of their life. How about everybody that's
in the hospital. The good news is we don't we
think everyone's going to survive. That's being treated, right. So
seventeen other people were wounded. I think at least four
(22:46):
of them needed surgeries. But the victims those wounded, fourteen
of them were children. Three others also injured adults. I
think a couple very elderly people who would have attended
this mass that was held apparently every Wednesday, when the
kids would come over from the school in a neighboring
building on the church complex. So this would have been
a typical Wednesday mask that they would have had there,
(23:07):
but obviously more special since this would have been the
first one of this academic year. Roory O'Neil, appreciate your
reporting all morning long. We'll talk again tomorrow, all right.
I'm not going to do sounds of the day intro
and make light of it. You know, I started the
show the way I posted yesterday after it happened, which is,
this is an evil act of violence targeting children, innocent
(23:32):
children who were literally in the act of kneeling and
praying in church. This is evil. It's not a social
media event, and it's not a public debate. It's a
human tragedy. And what these kids all need and what
these parents all need are our prayers, not our opinions.
(23:54):
And I don't feel any differently nearly twenty four hours later,
even with what you're about to here and what I
saw the media do with it. And we've talked a
little bit about the nature of God, the nature of evil,
because this act left some clues. But at the end
(24:14):
of the day, if you're going to spend it any
useful time. Don't waste it typing, don don't waste it
expressing shock or outrage. Use it praying to a living
God that can go and make a difference and heal
these hearts and minds. Having said that, let's keep the
focus on the kids, the living and the things they
(24:36):
never should have heard and saw. Here's one ten year
old that was in the shooting.
Speaker 6 (24:40):
It was like the shots fired and then he kind
of like got under the pews. He kind of they
shot through the the stained glass windows, I think, and
it was really scary.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
What did you do after that? I waited like ten.
Speaker 6 (25:01):
To five minutes, I don't really know. And then we
went to the gym and then the doors locked just
to make sure he didn't come. And who waited in
the gym for more news? And everyone was okay.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
You know what's interesting. This is a ten year old
boy who hit the deck immediately his friend laid on
top of him. His friend, who got shot in the back,
was treated. He's still in the hospital but expected to
recover things ten year olds should not be experiencing. This
(25:42):
clip is my most tempting to get mad and want
to say a lot. This is Jen Saki former White
House spokesperson for Joe Biden, in other words, political operative
turned news reporter talking to the mayor of Minneapolis. You know,
earlier we shared a headline from the New York Times
(26:05):
Minneapolis suspect knew her target. Motive is a mystery. Are
you serious? Did they not see the manifesto? Did they
not see what was written on the weapons? Did they
not watch a twenty minute video suspect, he tells you
(26:27):
what he's gonna do before he's gonna do it. He
even picks out what he's gonna wear, even shows you
a fourth weapon, which was a revolver that he said
was going to be for him. There's no question who
did it, and there's no question on the motive. But
watch Jensaki's warning to her viewers. Listen, Oh wait, I
gotta do it from here.
Speaker 7 (26:48):
There has already been sort of some effort, which I
think is so sick and disgusting to weaponize some of
the details, even if we don't know a lot at
this point in time, and obviously the law enforcement in
your say, have been keeping people abreast.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
So disgusting to weaponize any of the details. By the way,
when she talks about prematurely. The manifesto has already been revealed.
The church diagram, his drawing and the knife going into it,
the words of every page of his manifesto, everything he
wrote on his weapons and ammunition, everything him verbally telling you,
(27:25):
but watch how disgusting it would be for someone to
weaponize this and focus on transgender But it's okay for
her to weaponize and focus simply on the weapons. Listen,
it's really it's a form of mental illness in a way.
Speaker 7 (27:42):
Details about the individual possibly being trands, about the individual
possibly having negative things to say about Trump, about some
things that have been on the weapons. A lot of
this is just very early reporting. What do you do
as a leader of your city to prevent details from
being weaponized and using this to blame something other than
(28:04):
the guns?
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Can you believe what you just heard? What do you
do to ignore facts? What do you do to ignore truth?
What do you do to spin and narrativize this so
that people don't focus on anything other than the gun?
Never mind his motive, never mind what was his mental illness,
(28:26):
demon possession or evil. We gotta ignore all that. That's
a weapon. As she weaponizes the guns and the mayor answers.
Speaker 8 (28:36):
First off, anybody who is using this as an opportunity
to villainize trans people has completely lost touch with the
common humanity. Operate not off of hate for any community.
Operate off of love for our kids. Kids died today.
(28:59):
This should be about protecting our children. This should be
about loving our children. And far too often I feel
like people will think of the conclusion that they want
to get to and then they'll like reverse manufacture the facts.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
That they're as they are doing it in real time.
They can't call it evil because Trump's evil, not this.
They can't point to transgenderism though that's front and center
in this shooting, as it was in the Covenant shooting
in Nashville and in South Carolina. We've got to keep
ignoring that because that's not mental illness anymore. We got
(29:38):
the psychiatric community to reverse that from being gender disorder
mental illness to gender dysphoria. So we can't call that
illness because it has to be affirmed virtue and normal.
But look at how they're doing, what they're condemning as
they're doing it. Not enough has been made. I mean,
(29:59):
can you imagine and if this had been a maga
person shooting Joe Biden. What they be doing with it?
Never mind all the references to kill Trump and being
just a day or two after their own governor Tim
Walls said this, Think of how easy it would be
to be a damn Republican. Oh what should I wear today?
(30:20):
This stupid freaking red hat? What should I say today?
I don't know. Just make sure it's cruel. Who do
we listen to that guy? Oh, the felon in the
White House. Yeah, listen to him and that will be fine.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Now he's talking about burning flags.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
He's gonna have flag burning or whatever because he knows
there's a hell of a lot of flags with.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
His picture on it that are going to get burned.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
There's a whole lot of that kind of crap that
people are sick of.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
And I have to tell you we.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Can have our internal decision making, our internal healthy.
Speaker 8 (30:50):
Debates, but I refuse to believe we.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Do not have the luxury to fight amongst ourselves. Why
that thing sets in the White House, Well, that's thing
sits in the White House. Well one of his residents,
obviously inspired by that, did something about it. Couldn't get
to the president. Neither could two other assassins. We did
get to some children, but don't notice the evil, don't
(31:17):
notice the mental illness. Make sure you only notice the gun,
all right, everybody block alad.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Look, you've just got to try harder not to show.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
I'm gna have the opportunity for a brief civics lesson. Sure,
perhaps you'd like to be alone with you at a
deteriorating mental condition. Politics, I don't know us apart. And
that's your Sounds of the day for this Thursday, August
the twenty eighth year of Our Lord twenty twenty five.
John Decker from the White House coming up next. Jeffer,
you got to talk to me. I don't know what
I'm supposed to be doing right here, but you're not.
(31:48):
Oh okay, well, thank you. That's all I needed to hear.
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Speaker 4 (33:16):
It's your morning show with Michael Delchno.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Online on the air anytime everywhere. That's your Morning Show.
You can find the links to the podcast at your
Morning Show online dot com. Fifty six minutes after the hour,
two children, ages eight and ten, are dead. Seventeen others
were wounded after the Catholic school shooting in Minneapolis. As
we just heard from Roo O'Neil. All of them are
(33:40):
expected to recover, which is wonderful news. And our thoughts
and prayers are with the two families that lost an
eight to ten year old. And that's the best use
of your time. This isn't a debate or an opinion fest.
This is an act of evil and people are hurting
and only God can help help the wounded hearts in
my mind in this case, So spend your time, resist all
(34:02):
other temptations, and spend your time praying. All right, Well,
we knew this day was coming. The fifty tariffs slapped
on India for purchasing oil. China buys oil from Russia
as well. Now what do you do? John Decker from
the White House is here. John, This comes flat in center.
Now there's no avoid to get any longer.
Speaker 9 (34:22):
That's right, Yeah, the President pulling the trigger imposing those
fifty percent trade tariffs on India. And that's because India
continues to purchase large volumes of oil from Russia every day,
and that sustains Russia's economy, it sustains their war effort
against Ukraine. And the President says, we need to squeeze
Russia's economy. So that's the reason for those secondary tariffs,
(34:44):
as he calls them. But interestingly enough, Michael, he is
not yet imposed secondary tariffs on China, and China actually
purchases the most oil from Russia. So we'll have to
wait and see if the President decides to do something
like that anytime.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
So Goose Meat Gander, Well, you don't even have a
deal with China, so and this would certainly disrupt any
ability to get a deal with China. But I don't
know how you try to have your cake and eat
it too, do it to India not to China. Plus,
there's a better solution than that is just get any
to stop buying from Russia and maybe help provide them
with the energy resources they need. Has there been any
(35:21):
talk of that.
Speaker 9 (35:23):
Well, that's a possibility. I don't know if there's talk
of that. You know, there have been agoing trade discussions
involving Jamison Greer, he's the US Trade representative as well
as the Treasury Secretary Scott Desson. They have not given
us a readout in terms of how close they are
to getting that trade deal done. The President had given
(35:43):
an additional ninety days, you know, any intention to get
that trade deal done, So we'll see what happens.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
You know.
Speaker 9 (35:50):
I think that the reason why the President had not
imposed these secondary tariffs on China is because he thought
perhaps that it would you know, essentially create a block.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
And John I'll be back with more his White House
briefing room with John Decker. You'll find that on the
iHeart app. And we'll see you tomorrow morning at five.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
Goblin, We're all in this together. This is your Morning
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