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Speaker 3 (00:35):
Your morning show, Chris Rock and for Michael del' joorno,
he's back Monday. I'm with you today and tomorrow and Epstein.
The victims spoke out yesterday at a press conference. I
have the victims coming forward is absolutely fine. I got
no problem with them. They are victims. They are dealt
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victims from when they're as as a child, sex trafficking.
It's all horrifying and terrible. But some of the stuff
that's coming out in this like it seems like they've
dipped their toe in the water with we're going to
release a client list because what I've said to you
and I've said this for months. Is that the client
list is available. It's not written down anywhere. The victims,
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the women could come forward and say and they don't
have to come forward either. I would have no problem
with them never coming forward because they're victims and they
have no they don't want to destroy their lives. They've
done nothing wrong. But they have the client list. They
can say here's the five people I know, and another
one can say here's the five people I know. They
can put on a list, and we could know that's
the way to get the client list. Okay, so this
is bizarro. Thomas Massey, the lone Republican pushing this so
(01:44):
hard with Rocanna, and he seems like he's really doing
some stuff that it's got an agenda, hid an agenda
a Massy. He says that Epstein victims suddenly after saying
they would give a client list, now he says they
will not compile their own Epstein list due to losses.
I mean, so do you see what I'm saying This
This whole thing comes across as a game. Not the women,
(02:06):
but this whole thing with Massy and with we're gonna
give the cardist. We're not gonna give this whole thing
seems wrong. And so when Trump says it sounds so
horrible when he says the whole Epstein thing is a
scam while the women are doing the press conference right
before to right after, but it sounds horrible. But the
whole thing seems fishy. Either release it or don't. You
don't have to come forward, and if you do, God bless,
(02:27):
you can hear from the on in a second. So
it seems stunty and stupid, is what I wrote last
night going through this stunty and stupid. As I'm reading
Thomas Massey saying they were going to release the list
but now they're not going to do what and he
and Marjorie Taylor Green are saying they're willing to name
names in the House under constitutional speech or debate immunity again,
So if you can't say it, because you'll be sued.
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And you know what I learned. I had a high
powered attorney come to all of us talk show hosts
when I was at a big station in Atlanta several
years ago, and he said, you cannot be you cannot
lose any thing, and the laws super telling the truth.
The best defense is the truth. So if these guys
did the stuff to these women. There is no worry
about liability. That's why they're saying, well, we're going to
We're not going to play cut number nine.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
I would like to announce here today us Epstein survivors
have been discussing creating our own list. We know the names,
many of us were abused by them. Now, together as survivors,
we will confidentially compile the names we all know who
regularly and who are regularly in the Epstein world. And
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it will be done by survivors and for survivors. No
one else is involved.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Stay tuned for more details.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
I was one of a dozen of girls that I
personally know who are forced into Jeffrey's mansion on nine
East seventy one Street in New York City when we
were just kids.
Speaker 6 (03:51):
When I got into them with sawdg Room, Jeffrey Epstein
undrussed and asked me to do things to him. My
eyes balled up with tears, and I have never been
more scared in my life.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
Tired of looking at the news and seeing Jeffrey Epstein's
name and saying that this is a hoax.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
We are tired of it. We are done, We're not
going to be silent, all right. Nobody has said this
is a hoax. And when Trump said, when Trump did say, well,
let's play it here, he talked about it. It's a scam.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
This is a Democrat hoax that never ends.
Speaker 7 (04:29):
You know, it reminds me a little of the Kennedy situation.
Speaker 8 (04:33):
We gave him everything over and over again, more and
more and more, and nobody's ever satisfied.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
It sounds wrong, but you know, you hear. We're going
to do a list. It's going to be confidential, and
it's going to be a list of people in the
Epstein world. That's the problem. Just because you were in
the world doesn't mean you were salty anybody, and doesn't
mean you knew about it. Bill Clinton was in that world.
Was he should he be released in the name? And
he asked because he's publican a president And by the way,
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look at us NBC did something horrible. Haley Jackson went
right to the victims, had all of them on NBC
News and listen to what she asked, play cut thirteen.
Speaker 9 (05:12):
I do have to ask, and I know, and it's
just something that I think we're compelled to at this
moment with the attention on President Trump with these questions
are out a part in did anybody see or hear
of the president himself doing anything inappropriate?
Speaker 3 (05:24):
As a related to Jeffrey Epstein. So there's nothing on Trump.
But you're not going to hit the Democrat stop because
they're going to play the game because people don't know
what's going on, because they're ignorant. Because I don't see
every little until the news. You do because you're listening
to your morning show. Now here's Thomas Masse. You play
cut a lover here, he is playing the game. Listen
to this.
Speaker 8 (05:43):
This is really think worth noting that the three signers
besides me to the discharged petition on the Republican side
are all women.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
And these are women taking up for women.
Speaker 8 (05:55):
Where are the men here in the Republican Party taking
up for the victims.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Of sexual abuse?
Speaker 3 (06:01):
None of them have stepped up. He's trying to shame
his colleagues. Really stupid. He's literally he's angry at Trump
because Trump's you know, went after it. I think Thomas
mass is doing a stunt, and you don't do stunts
with this stuff. This is serious stuff. Now you must
hear this because this goes off the rails. Of my opinion,
you have an Epstein victim and then you have her attorney.
(06:24):
But listen, listen, read between the lines here because to me,
this is playing a game back and forth. I'm not
criticizing the victim, but the message in the attorney playing
a game. Listen to this play cut number ten.
Speaker 10 (06:36):
We just want some accountability, and we haven't received any.
The only person that's been held accountable is a woman.
And we were abused by a man who sex trafficked
a lot of us. And so we are aware there
are many other men out there and we just don't
understand or we are nearing the end of our fight,
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pushing us to you know, make other decisions, to you know,
to see if we can get some accountability.
Speaker 11 (07:05):
Brad, I'm wondering what your reaction to the President calling
a hoax. Yeah, thanks for having me on Anderson. It
doesn't make any sense. I don't think I know that
he doesn't believe that.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
It's a hoax.
Speaker 11 (07:16):
I'm not sure that he knows what the word hoax means.
To tell you the truth, because I've talked to President
Trump years ago about this.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Case on this topic.
Speaker 11 (07:25):
He provided information he knew back then the type of
creep that Jeffrey Epstein was.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
I can't imagine that.
Speaker 11 (07:31):
He's saying that these hundreds of women are lying about this.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
So I'm not exact. This was back in two thousand
and nine. You said you talked to him.
Speaker 11 (07:37):
Sure, I talked to him in two thousand and nine,
several times back then, and at least through the years
have even asked follow up questions through his lawyers. He's
not implicated in the files that I've ever seen, and
like I've said, I've represented two hundred women. So all
I can think is that he has now seen the
files or has been advised of things in the files
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that he didn't know in the files and that I
currently don't know that are in the files, because otherwise
it makes absolutely no sense this about face that he's done.
You're either on the side of the victims or you're
on the side of evil. There is not another side
to this, and he's choosing the side of evil, the
side of Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
It really makes no sense.
Speaker 11 (08:17):
I can't imagine the public's gonna put up to this.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Do you hear the last twenty seconds or thirty seconds? Guy,
it's a joke. He's a joke, Well, what's it He's
seen something I haven't seen? Does he know something? To
new dude, what are you talking about? And then saying, well,
you know there's many other men, which is you know
one of the victims. Some of the victims are saying, okay, well,
then name them, do it. I support you doing that.
By the way, I wanted to come out, but you
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heard one of the other wor victims saying we're gonna
name them. There are men that were in the Epstein world.
Being in the world doesn't mean you did any assault
and doesn't mean you knew anything. So if you're gonna
name them, they have to be the people that assaulted you.
And well, like I said, that attorney taught me in Atlanta,
the best defense against a libel or defamation suit is
(09:03):
by you being telling the truth. The best defense is
the truth. You cannot you might get sued, but you
won't lose. If it's the truth where you lose, you
make it. What's that? Yeah, go ahead question for you?
Speaker 12 (09:14):
So would Merrick Garland not know every piece of information
that the Trump the Department of Justice knows, but they
not know the same Why didn't they say anything?
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Four years of Joe Biden, and you know, and then
even under former President Obama for the four years. You
think if there was once until of anything in there
about Trump, they wouldn't put it out there. They made
up ninety one false charges, They rigged all these things,
They lied about Russi again, they started a fake hoax
and chains intelligence reports the highest levels and they're not
going to get this, get Trump on this. Are you
kidding me? There is nothing there? The mans asked, right there,
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there's nothing there.
Speaker 13 (09:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (09:50):
I feel bad for them, and they're saying there's no accountability.
But the person who is most accountable is dead.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
That's exactly what I was gonna say.
Speaker 12 (09:57):
Go ahead, No, no, no, I'm it's just you feel bad.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
You know something happened.
Speaker 12 (10:04):
Of course, I think we're starting to see the perversion
of Washington and the polarization of the politicization of the story,
which is unfortunate.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
And are they actually using these victims for political stuff,
which of course we know the left has done everything,
any everything, and way worse than that, Like I said,
rigging intelligence reports. So I want to ask you a question.
Hit that talkback button on your iheartstream. Who's playing games
here in your opinion and who's got it right? And
what do you think is really going on here? Hit
that talkback button, go to town, go nuts. Love hearing
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from you. We're going to play that. I don't trust
Thomas Massey at all on anything, nothing on this. So
this is to me, this is uh, this is I
don't want to say it's a scam because that sounds terrible,
but I think with the way the politicians are doing this,
it's it's a joke. Maybe I'll say this. The politicians
in this to me seem like they're doing a scam.
Not the ladies, not the victims, but the politicians. Well
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put there on producer Red saying, you know, with the
politicians get involve its all twisted, not always, but in
this case completely and totally.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
This is your morning show with Michael del Trono.
Speaker 14 (11:11):
I'm very suspicious of this whole Epstein thing. And I'll
give you two reasons why. Number one's glory already enough
said number two, the victims themselves can tell us who
did this to them. I've always wondered and never understood
why Epstein was the only one that went to jail.
Why didn't these people say this person did this to me,
this person did this to me and then they went
after them and rest them.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Also, it just doesn't make sense to me. But that's
just my two cents. It doesn't and he's right. Great talkback.
I want you to hit that talkback button join the conversation.
I used that talkback button on the iheartstream click of
my phone. I count Rory our national correspondent, Roy O'Neil
joining us on this very topic. Rory, thanks for coming
(11:51):
on again with us this morning. Sure, great, good morning.
So we're talking about this, we're playing audio on this,
and you know, the victims came out out and it's like,
I'm not going after the victims at all, but it's
like they're dipping the toll in the water. We're going
to release the victims, and then it's going to we're
going to release soprivately. We're going to give it to
the politicians. The politicians will give hav anonymity. The women
(12:14):
were clearly victims. But if there's a list that women
could release it, and they're not doing that, and they're
talking about accountability. But Epstein's dead and she's a gilln
Maxwell's in jail. What's going on here?
Speaker 15 (12:26):
Sir, Well, the issue is if they release names and
make accusations against individuals, that they could then be brought
into court for libel or slander, and you know, that
could open up a whole can of worms. I think
there are other settlement agreements that some of these women
had that also may prevent them. It might be non
disclosure agreements that cover this as well. So the idea
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is these victims, these survivors, by the way the women suggested,
there could be a thousand of them that these women
might get together and make the list that the DOJ says,
doesn't this now anyway.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Well that's the thing too, because I've said this for months.
The client list is out there. What it is is
the women putting it together and releasing it. But here's
the thing. I had a high powered attorney come to
us talk show host when I was in Atlanta that
it was, you know, our cut company to this, so
you know, we prevent from getting libel or you know,
defamation rightsuit. And the best defense the lawyer taught us
was the truth. If what you say is true, that's
your best defense. So if these men assaulted them, they
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then that's their defense. They you know, you can't. You
can get sue, but you won't win if it's the truth, right,
that's right, but at what? At what cost? So then
why why? Then? It seems to me that the and
this goes with Red saying, it seems to me the
politicians the one pushing all this and playing game with
this because the women know they have a cost, and
(13:44):
that's understandable. Their lives have been hopefully gotten much better
over the years and they're gonna have to blow it
all up again. So then who's really pushing for this
to be released?
Speaker 15 (13:56):
Well, so you had some so what we had ten
women in the group, yestu. They say they want they're
willing to have their names out there, obviously and speaking publicly,
a lot of them don't necessarily.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
You know, we've heard Speaker Johnson say he.
Speaker 15 (14:08):
Wants this whole process to play itself out in the
House Oversight Committee, but that's going to be sort of
a drip of a trickle to get this information out there.
And you know, look, a lot of this was all
started by Dan Bongino and Cash Patel, and you know
they really have had a one eighty on their thinking. Well,
let me correct that Cash Hotel and Pam Bondi have
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had a one ad on their thinking. Dan Bongino may
be having a falling out and maybe on the way
out with the FBI, because he may not. He wasn't
too happy with this, we know from a confrontation he
had with the Attorney General about the decision not to
release the files or to prosecute anyone else. Look, as
the women said, you know only one person, well, two
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people have been prosecuted in connection with this. Where a
thousand that's Epstein and Maxwell. Where a thousand girls may
have been victimized. Clearly by more than just those two.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Let me say this, Rory, one of the victims. We
played a lot of ario from them. Just in the
last segment. They said, the release the names in the
men in the Epstein world. Being in the world doesn't
mean you assaulted anybody and doesn't mean you knew of
any assaulting, right, right.
Speaker 15 (15:15):
And that's one of the concerns President Trump has expressed,
because look, he and Jeffrey Epstein were friends until they
had a big falling out. Still a bit unclear as
to what the falling out was over different versions of
that story, but you know, clearly there was a falling out.
And actually the attorney said yesterday that Donald Trump in
two thousand and nine, you know, to let's talk to him,
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said that he was willing to help in their investigations.
But now you know, you heard the president say this
is a democratic hoax and they're the ones pushing this
because they're getting some traction. Yes, just to distract away
from what mister Trump calls the greatest eight months of
any presidency.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
I appreciate you, Rory, and we'll talk tomorrow. Have a
great day, sir.
Speaker 11 (15:56):
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Speaker 3 (16:27):
Okay, we had some great talkbacks and I didn't even
get to the story. I'll give you a quick woman's
faces plastered across lavish NYC neighborhood for refusing to pick
up her dog poop. But it looks like she's it's
a woman in the ritzy East Sidupper East Side. I
walked a long way back and forth to this convention.
I'm in town for New York City. Well, while doing
the Michael Show, your morning show, I should say, and
(16:49):
you see these little, you know, three two foot by
five foot little patches of dirt with some plants in them,
and people will have the signs of everywhere, don't put
your dog in here. Oh, someonost say there's chemicals. Your
dog may get an injured from chemicals for the insects.
I think that's the bs. But I don't care if
people are well, I guess they let the dog's just
poop right there. This lady apparently drops it everywhere she wants,
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and the dog does at least drops a deuce and
never picks it up. Yes, people, Yeah, well it's New
York City. She could be dropping the deuce too. It'll
be nothing wrong with it. Hey, maybe she could drop
a deuce with the dog at the same time. Just
don't screw it on the floor. You might hurt yourself.
Speaker 16 (17:31):
A clown car what is the clown shoe? Am I
am I a clown to you? Excuse me, but turn
my mic off when that happened?
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Where were we? That's a ridiculous Now I need some
have done here. Okay, So anyways, so she's wearing a
Chanel bag, Chanel bag, she got a baseball chicks Chek sweater,
and the dogs dropping deuces everywhere, and she looks like
she's flipping somebody off and took a picture of the
posters up everywhere. I love this. I think it's great.
I had a neighbor, mister Petrie when I was growing up,
(18:10):
and he took all this dog dog dung that somebody
did left on his lawn and he dumped it on
mister feed or next door to us, between him and
mister Petrie, on his freaking driveway, and it was he
doesn't even have a dog.
Speaker 12 (18:22):
Sounds like remember that Tom Hanks movie Otto, No, that's
what it sounds like.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Though, Okay, I think I know what you're talking about.
That was a more recent one, right, he was a
jerking neighbor, Yes, exactly. Okay, that was a good movie. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
So anyway, yeah, absolutely, So are you okay with the
shaming people who have the dogs keep dropping deuces everywhere.
We have to play this. This is a guy from
w L A sait which one is the dog deuce one?
I believe this is Bill from W A. Must play
(18:49):
this bill? Why must play? Good?
Speaker 17 (18:52):
Lamar and Chris concerning the woman whose face is plastered
all over New York for not picking up dog poop
by applaud her, I do not pick up dog group.
I refuse to put biodegradable matter into a non biodegradable bag.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
To throw it.
Speaker 17 (19:07):
Into the dump makes absolutely no sense, so.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
He applauds her. So as I'm walking the streets in
New York City, I'll be perhaps stepping on dog doing everywhere.
It'll be on my shoe. I'll go to my hotel
and say, what's that smell. We'll be sitting here in
the iHeart and Premiere Studios, going it's a little weird here.
So he applauds that. So I think you're right, it's biodegradable.
So what I'm gonna do is we're gonna make sure
all the dogs when they drop their deuces, we'll leave
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it on your lungs is biodegradable, and you will applaud that.
We know you will will applaud that, so we'll be
doing that, sir. We applaud you for applauding that. Let's
hear from w l a C.
Speaker 18 (19:42):
Good morning, Chris. Regarding your comments about Taylor Swift potentially
doing the Super Bowl halftime, I'm not a huge Taylor
Swift fan where Eddie means, but I mean to tell
you or will take Taylor Swift any day over a
lot of the crept that we've had to put up
with for the last decade that's been considered how time entertainment.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
I know she what a brilliant talk back there from
from her. I really am not a fan of tatist
with because of her insane politics and she shuts down
her throat and her leftist boyfriend and stuff, and because
they're all over the place. But I know she's an
amazing artist and she's beautiful, you know, et cetera. So
the point well taken. But there have been some good ones.
(20:27):
You know, Prince was great. I don't remember the last
time The Stones did it, but anytimes they do it,
I'm over the moon because that's my band. So some
of them have been really good. But there's been a
lot of really bad ones. So point well taken on that,
Let's go to Jim on w O and w.
Speaker 13 (20:42):
My opinion is the Democrats are only looking for one
name and one name only, and most of the other
people that are on there will either get be made
excuses for or they'll be given a pass.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Well yeah, yeah, here's the thing is, you can release
people the names of people who were, as was said
by one of the victims in the Epstein world, but
being in the world doesn't mean you knew assaults were
a part of them or any of that. And that's
what needs to be released is the women saying this
is who assaulted me, and because the best defense for
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any lawsuit is the truth, and I would support that.
And anytime any woman comes out and says it, talks
about this publicly, it's very brave and I do not
blame any woman who has gone through this and is
going through healing. There's a great charity I work with.
It's a Christian ministry for women who have been sex
trafficked or sexually assaulted and the unbelievable, horrible stuff they
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have to go through. They come in Man at the
world when the counseling starts, they somehow blame themselves for it.
And what happens is these counselors who are doing this
great work, they rebuilt these women's lives and then they
say they learn it is not my fault, I am
a victim, and they even some of them even get
to testify a Trump and put these sobs back and
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put him in jail. So I'm a tremendous support love
for women who are going through this and healing. But
you can still if you want to really get those
names out. The client list is with the women and
it's not in the Epstein world because lots of people
in that world that didn't do assault or know about them.
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One of them is Donald J. Trump, and you know
there's so many other people of all these high profile
Democrats like Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton. But Clinton was on
that plane like twenty three times. I think it was right.
Did he go to the Lolila Lolila Island? I think
he may have gone to one of these islands, but
I don't want to say he did yet we don't know,
so I'm not going to say that I apologize, but
we know he was on that plane twenty three times.
So and we know he got a massage from one
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of the victims, remember that at the airport, that picture.
I mean, nobody looks guilty here that. I'm not saying
anything happen with Bill. I'm just saying nobody looks worse.
Let me say that's a better way of saying, nobody
looks worse than than Bill. Kenton looks right because he's
getting massaged red I would say this, Chris that.
Speaker 12 (23:08):
Yeah, correct me if I'm off on No, I mean
just in general, if these people have names and have
proof that these people did this to them, there is
no slander or libel that can be brought against them
in the world of discovery, in the court of law,
those people would be buried alive. Well, if they're telling
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the truth, right, they got to be telling the truth.
They can't be fabricating anything. They can't be insinuating anything.
They can't be third party if they have proof and
they know where that person was at a certain period
of time. And now let me this is how every
case happened.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Let me correct you. They can be sued, well, yeah,
it could be a false lot, It could be a
wrong a lotful loss that gets thrown out. They can't
be sued. But you're absolutely right because as going back
is the best defense to libel and defense and slander
is telling the truth. And by the way, they don't
have to even have any evidence. They just say this
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is what happened to me, and then the burden will
be on the other people. They can come in, but
in discovery, like you said, read, that's when everything comes out,
and that's when the people that are guilty look really
bad because discovery both sides can do all sorts of stuff.
But go ahead, I interrupted your thought, right seriously, go ahead.
Speaker 12 (24:23):
Oh and I feel bad that I think Rory had
said that some of these people had their cases and
have settlements and have non disclosures. Well they shouldn't have
done that.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Yeah, they should not have signed these.
Speaker 12 (24:35):
I mean, you sign a non disclosure and you got
to abide by it.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
And well also the other one. We'll get suited again.
And whether or not you should have done it, what
you have to do. And this isn't just what the
women being horribly victimized like this, okay, it's anything that
you or I have done in our personal lives where
we say I shouldn't have done that. But there's nothing
you can do to undo that. So what you have
to do, whether it's you and me and are lives
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doing something like that, we look back and I wish
you wouldn't have done that. You have to accept the
situation that you put yourself in, let it go and
move forward. Now I'm not telling them, I'm not dismissing
these women. I'm not too. Don't hear what I'm not saying.
But what I'm saying is if they signed an NDA
and there's nothing they can do, what the health What
I would say is if it was my wife or
my sister, you know what I mean, or my daughter,
I would say, honey, you you did what you thought
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was right and there's nothing we can do to undo that,
and you can't get out of this. So what I want,
what I what I would tell you to do, honey,
is I would tell you to let it go because
it's gonna haunt you, it's gonna eat you alive. You
have to let it go. And and you did the
best you could. Makes sense if there's nothing you could
do it. That's what I would tell my daughter. My
wife would be honey, you encourage them. You said you
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did the best you could and there's you know, there's
nothing more you can do, so let it go, give
it to God. That's seriously, that that literally is what
I would say. That's the healthy way to do it.
So and I would actually encourage my daughter if you
wanted to tell a story, well, if you can't, you can't,
I mean seriously, because you talk to consult with the lawyer,
and if they tell you there's nothing you do, you
will be in a world of bad if you come
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out with this because you signed that ND eight. If
that happens, I'd say, honey, don't do it. And here's
what I would just say. But if they would say
you can do it, here's what you can do, I'd say, well,
the honey, you pray about it, and you bounce it
out and you you know, walk towards peace whatever whatever
you have more peace, and you walk that way and
I'll support you and I will love you. It makes sense,
is that could gotta be careful too when we're talking
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about this, because you know, there's a lot of serious,
deep sensitivities and I you know, you know, working with
and as a talk show host supporting the ministry, I
told you about with women who have been sex trafficked
and victimized. The most powerful things I hear is talking
to these counselors and and how these women come in
and the horrible stuff they've gone through being you know,
(26:48):
for example, sex trafficked at a young age as a
as a child, where a mother, you know, one case
I heard about was a mother who was on drugs
and was to support the habit was having her men
come in and have relations with it with their daughter.
And so, you know, growing up in that environment with
recriminations and guilt and pain, the the the the the
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counselors help them destroy those lies and break those chains
and free themselves. And it's a it's a difficult and
powerful thing to have to go through. Let's play Sounds
of the Day here. Let's start out first with where
do you want to go? Let's start out. I love
this one Piers Morgan and a transgender guy activist and
a doctor that supports the trans stuff. And then Tommy
(27:30):
Larren listen to this great segment cut eighteen.
Speaker 19 (27:33):
You should I think in your case, I think in
your case, you should either compete against male pickaball players
all complete, all complete.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
And you are you compete?
Speaker 20 (27:43):
You agree that there are many who agree with you,
and there are many who agree with me that there
is no threat want women or why do you want
to be a cheat?
Speaker 19 (27:54):
I mean, seriously, why do you want to be a cheat?
That's what you're doing. You're cheating, cheating, very you know
what it's really it really isn't It cuts to the
heart of the debate. It is cheating. It is knowingly
using a superior biology from birth to beat women who
(28:16):
are born with female bodies.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
It is cheating. It's time to call it out for
what it is.
Speaker 19 (28:22):
And Dr Webley, the idea you're a doctor and don't
think that this is about science is breathtaking to me.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Breathtaking.
Speaker 15 (28:30):
Of course, it's about human being.
Speaker 21 (28:32):
I'm a doctor and a human being. I'm a compassionate person.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
I got to do with it. Why are you compassionate
to women? Gold medals?
Speaker 15 (28:40):
To me, I don't.
Speaker 21 (28:42):
Understand why you have both of you have this huge
thing where we have not one single woman. Woman must
be affected by these term What about inclusion? We are
living in a world where we want everything.
Speaker 19 (28:58):
This is what the out Everything's inclusive about boxing.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
In the tunnel.
Speaker 21 (29:09):
We have three women and we have one man.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
You've been very clear about that. One man, one trans woman.
This is so awesome and hysterical. You know, Producer Jeff,
you were saying, what did you say again the I'm
not a scientist, the trans person said.
Speaker 12 (29:29):
Everybody that's a scientist until it doesn't fit their narrative.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Yeah, eight of the men. Now I know we get
a pause. Should we do the rest of the sounds
today when we come back a little bit more or
do you want me to keep going on this Producer Jeff,
I'll tell you what we can. Go ahead, take a break,
and then we'll let you take it up to the industry. Yeah,
because we got some more great sounds like Jasmin Crockett, Jazzy.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
It's your morning show with Michael del Journo.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
We will win, we will live, We all they change.
Sounds of the day. JD. Bence in Minneapolis talking about
the victims as he and Usha were there honoring the victims.
Speaker 22 (30:16):
I have never had a day that will stay stay
with me like this day did, because I really felt
like these these parents, in the midst of the worst
grief of their entire lives, they opened up their lives,
and they opened up their hearts, and.
Speaker 15 (30:29):
They made me part of it.
Speaker 22 (30:30):
So I'd ask a couple of things straight for the
parents and straight from the families to my fellow Americans.
First of all, while two kids lost their lives, there's
still one kid that's in very serious condition, and every
single family, the family of Lydia who luckily recovered but
we visited her in the hospital, the family of the
two who died, Harper and Fletcher, all three of those
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families said, please say a prayer. So my fellow Americans,
if you're the praying type, say a prayer for this
innocent girl who's actually in surgery right now, that the
swelling will go down, that she will be okay, because
she's still in a fight for a life. And every
single family to a person, is desperate that the death toll,
which currently.
Speaker 10 (31:11):
Is at too stays it too.
Speaker 22 (31:13):
And I think if you're a praying type, you ought
to say a prayer for the citizen young girl. The
second thing that I'd say is, look, I'm speaking to
my fellow Americans who are parents in particular. There is
nothing that you can say that can take away the
grief that these parents are dealing with.
Speaker 15 (31:27):
There is no word that can.
Speaker 22 (31:29):
Possibly describe the feeling or the emotion or the heartbreak.
One of the ways that I'm going to try to
honor these parents and the children that they lost is
by being a better dad and hugging my kids tight
tonight and making sure that they know that their dad
loves them, because there are two families who are not
going to get that opportunity ever again. And if you
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do have kids, if you're lucky enough to have a
son or a daughter, and make sure that they know
that they love you, and make sure that you hug
your kids tight, because there are families in Minneapolis who
won't be able to do that ever again.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Jesse Jasmine Crockett on UK and friend speech part of
our visit to your opinion to Europe. We appreciate that
recognized for five minutes.
Speaker 23 (32:11):
Yes, I hate that I didn't get to reminisce with
our good friend mister Farage, but nevertheless, you know, it's
interesting that we're sitting here and we're talking about the
so called threats to the First Amendment when the biggest
threat to free speech right now is the old guy
that is sitting over in the oval now. Mister Faraj
(32:36):
and I met over a month ago and he has
made it a brand of being.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
This free speech warrior.
Speaker 23 (32:43):
And one of the things that I wanted to recap
was the fact that he literally tried to shut down
my ranking member as he was engaging in his own
free speech. It seems like it's more so free speech
for me, but not for the a lot of times
with certain people. And it's said that he had to
(33:05):
run and have lunch with Trump or to go raise
some money for his four member party.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
I think she's confused with Joe Biden, not Trump, but
Jimmie Raskin on free speech.
Speaker 7 (33:15):
There is a free speech crisis in America today, but
there's no.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Free speech crisis in Britain.
Speaker 7 (33:20):
UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer has not shut down gb
News where mister Farage has his own show, just because
mister farrag has used his airtime to call for banning
peaceful protests that he disagrees with.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
No one has stopped.
Speaker 7 (33:34):
Him from going on Russian TV seventeen times in saying
also and repeating that the one world political leader he
most admired.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
All right, let's cut him off where we're a run
out of time here, dude. People are being cuffed and
stuff for freedom of Speech in the UK. He's way off,
but that's okay because he's way left. Hey, we'll see
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I get one more day with you than Michael's back
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Speaker 3 (00:35):
Your morning show, Chris Rock and for Michael del' joorno,
he's back Monday. I'm with you today and tomorrow and Epstein.
The victims spoke out yesterday at a press conference. I
have the victims coming forward is absolutely fine. I got
no problem with them. They are victims. They are dealt
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victims from when they're as as a child, sex trafficking.
It's all horrifying and terrible. But some of the stuff
that's coming out in this like it seems like they've
dipped their toe in the water with we're going to
release a client list because what I've said to you
and I've said this for months. Is that the client
list is available. It's not written down anywhere. The victims,
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the women could come forward and say and they don't
have to come forward either. I would have no problem
with them never coming forward because they're victims and they
have no they don't want to destroy their lives. They've
done nothing wrong. But they have the client list. They
can say here's the five people I know, and another
one can say here's the five people I know. They
can put on a list, and we could know that's
the way to get the client list. Okay, so this
is bizarro. Thomas Massey, the lone Republican pushing this so
(01:44):
hard with Rocanna, and he seems like he's really doing
some stuff that it's got an agenda, hid an agenda
a Massy. He says that Epstein victims suddenly after saying
they would give a client list, now he says they
will not compile their own Epstein list due to losses.
I mean, so do you see what I'm saying This
This whole thing comes across as a game. Not the women,
(02:06):
but this whole thing with Massy and with we're gonna
give the cardist. We're not gonna give this whole thing
seems wrong. And so when Trump says it sounds so
horrible when he says the whole Epstein thing is a
scam while the women are doing the press conference right
before to right after, but it sounds horrible. But the
whole thing seems fishy. Either release it or don't. You
don't have to come forward, and if you do, God bless,
(02:27):
you can hear from the on in a second. So
it seems stunty and stupid, is what I wrote last
night going through this stunty and stupid. As I'm reading
Thomas Massey saying they were going to release the list
but now they're not going to do what and he
and Marjorie Taylor Green are saying they're willing to name
names in the House under constitutional speech or debate immunity again,
So if you can't say it, because you'll be sued.
(02:49):
And you know what I learned. I had a high
powered attorney come to all of us talk show hosts
when I was at a big station in Atlanta several
years ago, and he said, you cannot be you cannot
lose any thing, and the laws super telling the truth.
The best defense is the truth. So if these guys
did the stuff to these women. There is no worry
about liability. That's why they're saying, well, we're going to
We're not going to play cut number nine.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
I would like to announce here today us Epstein survivors
have been discussing creating our own list. We know the names,
many of us were abused by them. Now, together as survivors,
we will confidentially compile the names we all know who
regularly and who are regularly in the Epstein world. And
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it will be done by survivors and for survivors. No
one else is involved.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Stay tuned for more details.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
I was one of a dozen of girls that I
personally know who are forced into Jeffrey's mansion on nine
East seventy one Street in New York City when we
were just kids.
Speaker 6 (03:51):
When I got into them with sawdg Room, Jeffrey Epstein
undrussed and asked me to do things to him. My
eyes balled up with tears, and I have never been
more scared in my life.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
Tired of looking at the news and seeing Jeffrey Epstein's
name and saying that this is a hoax.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
We are tired of it. We are done, We're not
going to be silent, all right. Nobody has said this
is a hoax. And when Trump said, when Trump did say, well,
let's play it here, he talked about it. It's a scam.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
This is a Democrat hoax that never ends.
Speaker 7 (04:29):
You know, it reminds me a little of the Kennedy situation.
Speaker 8 (04:33):
We gave him everything over and over again, more and
more and more, and nobody's ever satisfied.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
It sounds wrong, but you know, you hear. We're going
to do a list. It's going to be confidential, and
it's going to be a list of people in the
Epstein world. That's the problem. Just because you were in
the world doesn't mean you were salty anybody, and doesn't
mean you knew about it. Bill Clinton was in that world.
Was he should he be released in the name? And
he asked because he's publican a president And by the way,
(05:03):
look at us NBC did something horrible. Haley Jackson went
right to the victims, had all of them on NBC
News and listen to what she asked, play cut thirteen.
Speaker 9 (05:12):
I do have to ask, and I know, and it's
just something that I think we're compelled to at this
moment with the attention on President Trump with these questions
are out a part in did anybody see or hear
of the president himself doing anything inappropriate?
Speaker 3 (05:24):
As a related to Jeffrey Epstein. So there's nothing on Trump.
But you're not going to hit the Democrat stop because
they're going to play the game because people don't know
what's going on, because they're ignorant. Because I don't see
every little until the news. You do because you're listening
to your morning show. Now here's Thomas Masse. You play
cut a lover here, he is playing the game. Listen
to this.
Speaker 8 (05:43):
This is really think worth noting that the three signers
besides me to the discharged petition on the Republican side
are all women.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
And these are women taking up for women.
Speaker 8 (05:55):
Where are the men here in the Republican Party taking
up for the victims.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Of sexual abuse?
Speaker 3 (06:01):
None of them have stepped up. He's trying to shame
his colleagues. Really stupid. He's literally he's angry at Trump
because Trump's you know, went after it. I think Thomas
mass is doing a stunt, and you don't do stunts
with this stuff. This is serious stuff. Now you must
hear this because this goes off the rails. Of my opinion,
you have an Epstein victim and then you have her attorney.
(06:24):
But listen, listen, read between the lines here because to me,
this is playing a game back and forth. I'm not
criticizing the victim, but the message in the attorney playing
a game. Listen to this play cut number ten.
Speaker 10 (06:36):
We just want some accountability, and we haven't received any.
The only person that's been held accountable is a woman.
And we were abused by a man who sex trafficked
a lot of us. And so we are aware there
are many other men out there and we just don't
understand or we are nearing the end of our fight,
(06:57):
pushing us to you know, make other decisions, to you know,
to see if we can get some accountability.
Speaker 11 (07:05):
Brad, I'm wondering what your reaction to the President calling
a hoax. Yeah, thanks for having me on Anderson. It
doesn't make any sense. I don't think I know that
he doesn't believe that.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
It's a hoax.
Speaker 11 (07:16):
I'm not sure that he knows what the word hoax means.
To tell you the truth, because I've talked to President
Trump years ago about this.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Case on this topic.
Speaker 11 (07:25):
He provided information he knew back then the type of
creep that Jeffrey Epstein was.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
I can't imagine that.
Speaker 11 (07:31):
He's saying that these hundreds of women are lying about this.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
So I'm not exact. This was back in two thousand
and nine. You said you talked to him.
Speaker 11 (07:37):
Sure, I talked to him in two thousand and nine,
several times back then, and at least through the years
have even asked follow up questions through his lawyers. He's
not implicated in the files that I've ever seen, and
like I've said, I've represented two hundred women. So all
I can think is that he has now seen the
files or has been advised of things in the files
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that he didn't know in the files and that I
currently don't know that are in the files, because otherwise
it makes absolutely no sense this about face that he's done.
You're either on the side of the victims or you're
on the side of evil. There is not another side
to this, and he's choosing the side of evil, the
side of Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
It really makes no sense.
Speaker 11 (08:17):
I can't imagine the public's gonna put up to this.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Do you hear the last twenty seconds or thirty seconds? Guy,
it's a joke. He's a joke, Well, what's it He's
seen something I haven't seen? Does he know something? To
new dude, what are you talking about? And then saying, well,
you know there's many other men, which is you know
one of the victims. Some of the victims are saying, okay, well,
then name them, do it. I support you doing that.
By the way, I wanted to come out, but you
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heard one of the other wor victims saying we're gonna
name them. There are men that were in the Epstein world.
Being in the world doesn't mean you did any assault
and doesn't mean you knew anything. So if you're gonna
name them, they have to be the people that assaulted you.
And well, like I said, that attorney taught me in Atlanta,
the best defense against a libel or defamation suit is
(09:03):
by you being telling the truth. The best defense is
the truth. You cannot you might get sued, but you
won't lose. If it's the truth where you lose, you
make it. What's that? Yeah, go ahead question for you?
Speaker 12 (09:14):
So would Merrick Garland not know every piece of information
that the Trump the Department of Justice knows, but they
not know the same Why didn't they say anything?
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Four years of Joe Biden, and you know, and then
even under former President Obama for the four years. You
think if there was once until of anything in there
about Trump, they wouldn't put it out there. They made
up ninety one false charges, They rigged all these things,
They lied about Russi again, they started a fake hoax
and chains intelligence reports the highest levels and they're not
going to get this, get Trump on this. Are you
kidding me? There is nothing there? The mans asked, right there,
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there's nothing there.
Speaker 13 (09:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (09:50):
I feel bad for them, and they're saying there's no accountability.
But the person who is most accountable is dead.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
That's exactly what I was gonna say.
Speaker 12 (09:57):
Go ahead, No, no, no, I'm it's just you feel bad.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
You know something happened.
Speaker 12 (10:04):
Of course, I think we're starting to see the perversion
of Washington and the polarization of the politicization of the story,
which is unfortunate.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
And are they actually using these victims for political stuff,
which of course we know the left has done everything,
any everything, and way worse than that, Like I said,
rigging intelligence reports. So I want to ask you a question.
Hit that talkback button on your iheartstream. Who's playing games
here in your opinion and who's got it right? And
what do you think is really going on here? Hit
that talkback button, go to town, go nuts. Love hearing
(10:35):
from you. We're going to play that. I don't trust
Thomas Massey at all on anything, nothing on this. So
this is to me, this is uh, this is I
don't want to say it's a scam because that sounds terrible,
but I think with the way the politicians are doing this,
it's it's a joke. Maybe I'll say this. The politicians
in this to me seem like they're doing a scam.
Not the ladies, not the victims, but the politicians. Well
(10:58):
put there on producer Red saying, you know, with the
politicians get involve its all twisted, not always, but in
this case completely and totally.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
This is your morning show with Michael del Trono.
Speaker 14 (11:11):
I'm very suspicious of this whole Epstein thing. And I'll
give you two reasons why. Number one's glory already enough
said number two, the victims themselves can tell us who
did this to them. I've always wondered and never understood
why Epstein was the only one that went to jail.
Why didn't these people say this person did this to me,
this person did this to me and then they went
after them and rest them.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Also, it just doesn't make sense to me. But that's
just my two cents. It doesn't and he's right. Great talkback.
I want you to hit that talkback button join the conversation.
I used that talkback button on the iheartstream click of
my phone. I count Rory our national correspondent, Roy O'Neil
joining us on this very topic. Rory, thanks for coming
(11:51):
on again with us this morning. Sure, great, good morning.
So we're talking about this, we're playing audio on this,
and you know, the victims came out out and it's like,
I'm not going after the victims at all, but it's
like they're dipping the toll in the water. We're going
to release the victims, and then it's going to we're
going to release soprivately. We're going to give it to
the politicians. The politicians will give hav anonymity. The women
(12:14):
were clearly victims. But if there's a list that women
could release it, and they're not doing that, and they're
talking about accountability. But Epstein's dead and she's a gilln
Maxwell's in jail. What's going on here?
Speaker 15 (12:26):
Sir, Well, the issue is if they release names and
make accusations against individuals, that they could then be brought
into court for libel or slander, and you know, that
could open up a whole can of worms. I think
there are other settlement agreements that some of these women
had that also may prevent them. It might be non
disclosure agreements that cover this as well. So the idea
(12:48):
is these victims, these survivors, by the way the women suggested,
there could be a thousand of them that these women
might get together and make the list that the DOJ says,
doesn't this now anyway.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Well that's the thing too, because I've said this for months.
The client list is out there. What it is is
the women putting it together and releasing it. But here's
the thing. I had a high powered attorney come to
us talk show host when I was in Atlanta that
it was, you know, our cut company to this, so
you know, we prevent from getting libel or you know,
defamation rightsuit. And the best defense the lawyer taught us
was the truth. If what you say is true, that's
your best defense. So if these men assaulted them, they
(13:24):
then that's their defense. They you know, you can't. You
can get sue, but you won't win if it's the truth, right,
that's right, but at what? At what cost? So then
why why? Then? It seems to me that the and
this goes with Red saying, it seems to me the
politicians the one pushing all this and playing game with
this because the women know they have a cost, and
(13:44):
that's understandable. Their lives have been hopefully gotten much better
over the years and they're gonna have to blow it
all up again. So then who's really pushing for this
to be released?
Speaker 15 (13:56):
Well, so you had some so what we had ten
women in the group, yestu. They say they want they're
willing to have their names out there, obviously and speaking publicly,
a lot of them don't necessarily.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
You know, we've heard Speaker Johnson say he.
Speaker 15 (14:08):
Wants this whole process to play itself out in the
House Oversight Committee, but that's going to be sort of
a drip of a trickle to get this information out there.
And you know, look, a lot of this was all
started by Dan Bongino and Cash Patel, and you know
they really have had a one eighty on their thinking. Well,
let me correct that Cash Hotel and Pam Bondi have
(14:29):
had a one ad on their thinking. Dan Bongino may
be having a falling out and maybe on the way
out with the FBI, because he may not. He wasn't
too happy with this, we know from a confrontation he
had with the Attorney General about the decision not to
release the files or to prosecute anyone else. Look, as
the women said, you know only one person, well, two
(14:49):
people have been prosecuted in connection with this. Where a
thousand that's Epstein and Maxwell. Where a thousand girls may
have been victimized. Clearly by more than just those two.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Let me say this, Rory, one of the victims. We
played a lot of ario from them. Just in the
last segment. They said, the release the names in the
men in the Epstein world. Being in the world doesn't
mean you assaulted anybody and doesn't mean you knew of
any assaulting, right, right.
Speaker 15 (15:15):
And that's one of the concerns President Trump has expressed,
because look, he and Jeffrey Epstein were friends until they
had a big falling out. Still a bit unclear as
to what the falling out was over different versions of
that story, but you know, clearly there was a falling out.
And actually the attorney said yesterday that Donald Trump in
two thousand and nine, you know, to let's talk to him,
(15:35):
said that he was willing to help in their investigations.
But now you know, you heard the president say this
is a democratic hoax and they're the ones pushing this
because they're getting some traction. Yes, just to distract away
from what mister Trump calls the greatest eight months of
any presidency.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
I appreciate you, Rory, and we'll talk tomorrow. Have a
great day, sir.
Speaker 11 (15:56):
Thanks Chris, Hey, Emiline Gold medalist Scott Hamilton, and my
morning show is your Morning Show with Michael Del Jorno.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
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Speaker 3 (16:27):
Okay, we had some great talkbacks and I didn't even
get to the story. I'll give you a quick woman's
faces plastered across lavish NYC neighborhood for refusing to pick
up her dog poop. But it looks like she's it's
a woman in the ritzy East Sidupper East Side. I
walked a long way back and forth to this convention.
I'm in town for New York City. Well, while doing
the Michael Show, your morning show, I should say, and
(16:49):
you see these little, you know, three two foot by
five foot little patches of dirt with some plants in them,
and people will have the signs of everywhere, don't put
your dog in here. Oh, someonost say there's chemicals. Your
dog may get an injured from chemicals for the insects.
I think that's the bs. But I don't care if
people are well, I guess they let the dog's just
poop right there. This lady apparently drops it everywhere she wants,
(17:10):
and the dog does at least drops a deuce and
never picks it up. Yes, people, Yeah, well it's New
York City. She could be dropping the deuce too. It'll
be nothing wrong with it. Hey, maybe she could drop
a deuce with the dog at the same time. Just
don't screw it on the floor. You might hurt yourself.
Speaker 16 (17:31):
A clown car what is the clown shoe? Am I
am I a clown to you? Excuse me, but turn
my mic off when that happened?
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Where were we? That's a ridiculous Now I need some
have done here. Okay, So anyways, so she's wearing a
Chanel bag, Chanel bag, she got a baseball chicks Chek sweater,
and the dogs dropping deuces everywhere, and she looks like
she's flipping somebody off and took a picture of the
posters up everywhere. I love this. I think it's great.
I had a neighbor, mister Petrie when I was growing up,
(18:10):
and he took all this dog dog dung that somebody
did left on his lawn and he dumped it on
mister feed or next door to us, between him and
mister Petrie, on his freaking driveway, and it was he
doesn't even have a dog.
Speaker 12 (18:22):
Sounds like remember that Tom Hanks movie Otto, No, that's
what it sounds like.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Though, Okay, I think I know what you're talking about.
That was a more recent one, right, he was a
jerking neighbor, Yes, exactly. Okay, that was a good movie. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
So anyway, yeah, absolutely, So are you okay with the
shaming people who have the dogs keep dropping deuces everywhere.
We have to play this. This is a guy from
w L A sait which one is the dog deuce one?
I believe this is Bill from W A. Must play
(18:49):
this bill? Why must play? Good?
Speaker 17 (18:52):
Lamar and Chris concerning the woman whose face is plastered
all over New York for not picking up dog poop
by applaud her, I do not pick up dog group.
I refuse to put biodegradable matter into a non biodegradable bag.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
To throw it.
Speaker 17 (19:07):
Into the dump makes absolutely no sense, so.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
He applauds her. So as I'm walking the streets in
New York City, I'll be perhaps stepping on dog doing everywhere.
It'll be on my shoe. I'll go to my hotel
and say, what's that smell. We'll be sitting here in
the iHeart and Premiere Studios, going it's a little weird here.
So he applauds that. So I think you're right, it's biodegradable.
So what I'm gonna do is we're gonna make sure
all the dogs when they drop their deuces, we'll leave
(19:32):
it on your lungs is biodegradable, and you will applaud that.
We know you will will applaud that, so we'll be
doing that, sir. We applaud you for applauding that. Let's
hear from w l a C.
Speaker 18 (19:42):
Good morning, Chris. Regarding your comments about Taylor Swift potentially
doing the Super Bowl halftime, I'm not a huge Taylor
Swift fan where Eddie means, but I mean to tell
you or will take Taylor Swift any day over a
lot of the crept that we've had to put up
with for the last decade that's been considered how time entertainment.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
I know she what a brilliant talk back there from
from her. I really am not a fan of tatist
with because of her insane politics and she shuts down
her throat and her leftist boyfriend and stuff, and because
they're all over the place. But I know she's an
amazing artist and she's beautiful, you know, et cetera. So
the point well taken. But there have been some good ones.
(20:27):
You know, Prince was great. I don't remember the last
time The Stones did it, but anytimes they do it,
I'm over the moon because that's my band. So some
of them have been really good. But there's been a
lot of really bad ones. So point well taken on that,
Let's go to Jim on w O and w.
Speaker 13 (20:42):
My opinion is the Democrats are only looking for one
name and one name only, and most of the other
people that are on there will either get be made
excuses for or they'll be given a pass.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Well yeah, yeah, here's the thing is, you can release
people the names of people who were, as was said
by one of the victims in the Epstein world, but
being in the world doesn't mean you knew assaults were
a part of them or any of that. And that's
what needs to be released is the women saying this
is who assaulted me, and because the best defense for
(21:23):
any lawsuit is the truth, and I would support that.
And anytime any woman comes out and says it, talks
about this publicly, it's very brave and I do not
blame any woman who has gone through this and is
going through healing. There's a great charity I work with.
It's a Christian ministry for women who have been sex
trafficked or sexually assaulted and the unbelievable, horrible stuff they
(21:48):
have to go through. They come in Man at the
world when the counseling starts, they somehow blame themselves for it.
And what happens is these counselors who are doing this
great work, they rebuilt these women's lives and then they
say they learn it is not my fault, I am
a victim, and they even some of them even get
to testify a Trump and put these sobs back and
(22:10):
put him in jail. So I'm a tremendous support love
for women who are going through this and healing. But
you can still if you want to really get those
names out. The client list is with the women and
it's not in the Epstein world because lots of people
in that world that didn't do assault or know about them.
(22:31):
One of them is Donald J. Trump, and you know
there's so many other people of all these high profile
Democrats like Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton. But Clinton was on
that plane like twenty three times. I think it was right.
Did he go to the Lolila Lolila Island? I think
he may have gone to one of these islands, but
I don't want to say he did yet we don't know,
so I'm not going to say that I apologize, but
we know he was on that plane twenty three times.
So and we know he got a massage from one
(22:51):
of the victims, remember that at the airport, that picture.
I mean, nobody looks guilty here that. I'm not saying
anything happen with Bill. I'm just saying nobody looks worse.
Let me say that's a better way of saying, nobody
looks worse than than Bill. Kenton looks right because he's
getting massaged red I would say this, Chris that.
Speaker 12 (23:08):
Yeah, correct me if I'm off on No, I mean
just in general, if these people have names and have
proof that these people did this to them, there is
no slander or libel that can be brought against them
in the world of discovery, in the court of law,
those people would be buried alive. Well, if they're telling
(23:29):
the truth, right, they got to be telling the truth.
They can't be fabricating anything. They can't be insinuating anything.
They can't be third party if they have proof and
they know where that person was at a certain period
of time. And now let me this is how every
case happened.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Let me correct you. They can be sued, well, yeah,
it could be a false lot, It could be a
wrong a lotful loss that gets thrown out. They can't
be sued. But you're absolutely right because as going back
is the best defense to libel and defense and slander
is telling the truth. And by the way, they don't
have to even have any evidence. They just say this
(24:08):
is what happened to me, and then the burden will
be on the other people. They can come in, but
in discovery, like you said, read, that's when everything comes out,
and that's when the people that are guilty look really
bad because discovery both sides can do all sorts of stuff.
But go ahead, I interrupted your thought, right seriously, go ahead.
Speaker 12 (24:23):
Oh and I feel bad that I think Rory had
said that some of these people had their cases and
have settlements and have non disclosures. Well they shouldn't have
done that.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Yeah, they should not have signed these.
Speaker 12 (24:35):
I mean, you sign a non disclosure and you got
to abide by it.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
And well also the other one. We'll get suited again.
And whether or not you should have done it, what
you have to do. And this isn't just what the
women being horribly victimized like this, okay, it's anything that
you or I have done in our personal lives where
we say I shouldn't have done that. But there's nothing
you can do to undo that. So what you have
to do, whether it's you and me and are lives
(25:01):
doing something like that, we look back and I wish
you wouldn't have done that. You have to accept the
situation that you put yourself in, let it go and
move forward. Now I'm not telling them, I'm not dismissing
these women. I'm not too. Don't hear what I'm not saying.
But what I'm saying is if they signed an NDA
and there's nothing they can do, what the health What
I would say is if it was my wife or
my sister, you know what I mean, or my daughter,
I would say, honey, you you did what you thought
(25:22):
was right and there's nothing we can do to undo that,
and you can't get out of this. So what I want,
what I what I would tell you to do, honey,
is I would tell you to let it go because
it's gonna haunt you, it's gonna eat you alive. You
have to let it go. And and you did the
best you could. Makes sense if there's nothing you could
do it. That's what I would tell my daughter. My
wife would be honey, you encourage them. You said you
(25:44):
did the best you could and there's you know, there's
nothing more you can do, so let it go, give
it to God. That's seriously, that that literally is what
I would say. That's the healthy way to do it.
So and I would actually encourage my daughter if you
wanted to tell a story, well, if you can't, you can't,
I mean seriously, because you talk to consult with the lawyer,
and if they tell you there's nothing you do, you
will be in a world of bad if you come
(26:05):
out with this because you signed that ND eight. If
that happens, I'd say, honey, don't do it. And here's
what I would just say. But if they would say
you can do it, here's what you can do, I'd say, well,
the honey, you pray about it, and you bounce it
out and you you know, walk towards peace whatever whatever
you have more peace, and you walk that way and
I'll support you and I will love you. It makes sense,
is that could gotta be careful too when we're talking
(26:27):
about this, because you know, there's a lot of serious,
deep sensitivities and I you know, you know, working with
and as a talk show host supporting the ministry, I
told you about with women who have been sex trafficked
and victimized. The most powerful things I hear is talking
to these counselors and and how these women come in
and the horrible stuff they've gone through being you know,
(26:48):
for example, sex trafficked at a young age as a
as a child, where a mother, you know, one case
I heard about was a mother who was on drugs
and was to support the habit was having her men
come in and have relations with it with their daughter.
And so, you know, growing up in that environment with
recriminations and guilt and pain, the the the the the
(27:10):
counselors help them destroy those lies and break those chains
and free themselves. And it's a it's a difficult and
powerful thing to have to go through. Let's play Sounds
of the Day here. Let's start out first with where
do you want to go? Let's start out. I love
this one Piers Morgan and a transgender guy activist and
a doctor that supports the trans stuff. And then Tommy
(27:30):
Larren listen to this great segment cut eighteen.
Speaker 19 (27:33):
You should I think in your case, I think in
your case, you should either compete against male pickaball players
all complete, all complete.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
And you are you compete?
Speaker 20 (27:43):
You agree that there are many who agree with you,
and there are many who agree with me that there
is no threat want women or why do you want
to be a cheat?
Speaker 19 (27:54):
I mean, seriously, why do you want to be a cheat?
That's what you're doing. You're cheating, cheating, very you know
what it's really it really isn't It cuts to the
heart of the debate. It is cheating. It is knowingly
using a superior biology from birth to beat women who
(28:16):
are born with female bodies.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
It is cheating. It's time to call it out for
what it is.
Speaker 19 (28:22):
And Dr Webley, the idea you're a doctor and don't
think that this is about science is breathtaking to me.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Breathtaking.
Speaker 15 (28:30):
Of course, it's about human being.
Speaker 21 (28:32):
I'm a doctor and a human being. I'm a compassionate person.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
I got to do with it. Why are you compassionate
to women? Gold medals?
Speaker 15 (28:40):
To me, I don't.
Speaker 21 (28:42):
Understand why you have both of you have this huge
thing where we have not one single woman. Woman must
be affected by these term What about inclusion? We are
living in a world where we want everything.
Speaker 19 (28:58):
This is what the out Everything's inclusive about boxing.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
In the tunnel.
Speaker 21 (29:09):
We have three women and we have one man.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
You've been very clear about that. One man, one trans woman.
This is so awesome and hysterical. You know, Producer Jeff,
you were saying, what did you say again the I'm
not a scientist, the trans person said.
Speaker 12 (29:29):
Everybody that's a scientist until it doesn't fit their narrative.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Yeah, eight of the men. Now I know we get
a pause. Should we do the rest of the sounds
today when we come back a little bit more or
do you want me to keep going on this Producer Jeff,
I'll tell you what we can. Go ahead, take a break,
and then we'll let you take it up to the industry. Yeah,
because we got some more great sounds like Jasmin Crockett, Jazzy.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
It's your morning show with Michael del Journo.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
We will win, we will live, We all they change.
Sounds of the day. JD. Bence in Minneapolis talking about
the victims as he and Usha were there honoring the victims.
Speaker 22 (30:16):
I have never had a day that will stay stay
with me like this day did, because I really felt
like these these parents, in the midst of the worst
grief of their entire lives, they opened up their lives,
and they opened up their hearts, and.
Speaker 15 (30:29):
They made me part of it.
Speaker 22 (30:30):
So I'd ask a couple of things straight for the
parents and straight from the families to my fellow Americans.
First of all, while two kids lost their lives, there's
still one kid that's in very serious condition, and every
single family, the family of Lydia who luckily recovered but
we visited her in the hospital, the family of the
two who died, Harper and Fletcher, all three of those
(30:51):
families said, please say a prayer. So my fellow Americans,
if you're the praying type, say a prayer for this
innocent girl who's actually in surgery right now, that the
swelling will go down, that she will be okay, because
she's still in a fight for a life. And every
single family to a person, is desperate that the death toll,
which currently.
Speaker 10 (31:11):
Is at too stays it too.
Speaker 22 (31:13):
And I think if you're a praying type, you ought
to say a prayer for the citizen young girl. The
second thing that I'd say is, look, I'm speaking to
my fellow Americans who are parents in particular. There is
nothing that you can say that can take away the
grief that these parents are dealing with.
Speaker 15 (31:27):
There is no word that can.
Speaker 22 (31:29):
Possibly describe the feeling or the emotion or the heartbreak.
One of the ways that I'm going to try to
honor these parents and the children that they lost is
by being a better dad and hugging my kids tight
tonight and making sure that they know that their dad
loves them, because there are two families who are not
going to get that opportunity ever again. And if you
(31:50):
do have kids, if you're lucky enough to have a
son or a daughter, and make sure that they know
that they love you, and make sure that you hug
your kids tight, because there are families in Minneapolis who
won't be able to do that ever again.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Jesse Jasmine Crockett on UK and friend speech part of
our visit to your opinion to Europe. We appreciate that
recognized for five minutes.
Speaker 23 (32:11):
Yes, I hate that I didn't get to reminisce with
our good friend mister Farage, but nevertheless, you know, it's
interesting that we're sitting here and we're talking about the
so called threats to the First Amendment when the biggest
threat to free speech right now is the old guy
that is sitting over in the oval now. Mister Faraj
(32:36):
and I met over a month ago and he has
made it a brand of being.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
This free speech warrior.
Speaker 23 (32:43):
And one of the things that I wanted to recap
was the fact that he literally tried to shut down
my ranking member as he was engaging in his own
free speech. It seems like it's more so free speech
for me, but not for the a lot of times
with certain people. And it's said that he had to
(33:05):
run and have lunch with Trump or to go raise
some money for his four member party.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
I think she's confused with Joe Biden, not Trump, but
Jimmie Raskin on free speech.
Speaker 7 (33:15):
There is a free speech crisis in America today, but
there's no.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Free speech crisis in Britain.
Speaker 7 (33:20):
UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer has not shut down gb
News where mister Farage has his own show, just because
mister farrag has used his airtime to call for banning
peaceful protests that he disagrees with.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
No one has stopped.
Speaker 7 (33:34):
Him from going on Russian TV seventeen times in saying
also and repeating that the one world political leader he
most admired.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
All right, let's cut him off where we're a run
out of time here, dude. People are being cuffed and
stuff for freedom of Speech in the UK. He's way off,
but that's okay because he's way left. Hey, we'll see
you tomorrow. This is Chris Crockett for Michael del Jean.
I get one more day with you than Michael's back
on Monday. This is your morning show.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
We're all in this together. This is your morning show
with Michael del jornom
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