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This is your morning show with Michael O'Dell Charman. Well,
the good news is I can't hear Red choking in
my ear. The bad news is I think Red's choking
to death and we should call nine to one to one.
But other than that, it's gonna be some help. Good morning.
Maybe a little bourbon gurgle this morning that'll help it.
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Put a picture of help. Seven minutes after the hour
of Good Morning, Michael del Jorno, this is your morning show.
Jeffrey's got the sound, it's working. Red's got the content.
It's coughing. And if you're just waking up Charlie Kirk's body.
What a what an emotional scene that was. I mean,
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this is like I mean we have in our Sounds
of the Day, Rush Limbaugh so many years ago discussing
I met a kid named Charlie Kirk, and he literally
predicts that Charlie Kirk will be president. And the body
returning to Phoenix was presidential by all means. It was
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what a great gesture from Vice President Jade Vance and
the second lady to use Air Force two to go
and get Erica and the body and return at home
for services. And then the Vice President helping. I wouldn't
say he was caring, but just escorting along with the
military the casket and loading it onto the plane. It
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was the kind of thing you normally only see for
heads of state. It was, what an amazing tribute to
an amazing guy. But that's really kind of the latest,
the President signifying he will give him the Medal of
Freedom posthumously, that he will attend his funeral. There's been
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a couple of confusing reports. I believe the funeral will
be this weekend. On the investigative front, I tried to
stay up as long as I could did they ever
get around to having that news conference? And if they did,
I can tell you waking up this morning, there's not
much breakthrough. We do know the Mauser Bolt Action thirty
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US six was used. There are lots of discussions about
how difficult this may be technically. This is probably read
early nineteen hundreds rifle. It was imported. I mean, if
it was bought at a gun show, presumably the shooters
college age. He wasn't the one that imported. It'll be
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very difficult to find records, but there doesn't seem to
be from any of the pictures any gloves used, so
his hands are likely and prints are all over it.
There were early reports in the day of inscriptions very
similar to the shooter in Minneapolis, with writings on the
rifle and on the ammunition. That gets everybody thinking wisely,
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but thinking immediately, Okay, this is going to be transgendered related.
And I can tell you that that's the ultimate point'ment
make it a minute, so I don't want to get
ahead of myself. But if you're getting just bombarded and
I don't know what you're on. If you're on Facebook,
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could be in reels, if you're on TikTok, I mean
the level. And then Fox yesterday, pretty much every we
call an outro when you break from a show and
go to commercial was a short clip of Charlie Kirk
interacting with a college student. So in the course of
the day, many people have probably been exposed to Charlie
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Kirk in the way our kids had been exposed to
him daily. And now you're going, wow, what a nice guy, Wow,
what a godly guy. Wow, what a courageous guy to
have these debates with kids. Yeah, that was his whole intent.
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But through all of that, you have to scratch your
head and go wow. I don't want to say this
justifies it in any way, but this is how God
uses things for his good. We alluded to this yesterday.
It will sound different now knowing he's been martyred, it'll
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impact differently, but it's impacting more already. And so the
more you expose yourself to these things, the more people
that are going to be impacted by it. But one
of the things, and you know, I think atheism came
up a lot. Anybody that professes to be a Christian
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comes up with me a lot. People are offended by that.
We're not supposed to be offended that they don't believe,
but they're offended that we do. We don't call that
idiots for not believing, but we're always an idiot for
believing buying into a myth. I can tell you the
pendulum of like even Bill Maher has swung so much.
And I am seeing and I'm very Charlie Kirk in
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this way, and I'm very encouraged to see he's constantly
having believers on a show show, and I'm watching this
man is no longer attacking and mocking. He's searching, and
he's not even being contentious anymore. I think a very
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bad Catholic childhood was at the root of all this.
But he keeps having theologians on prominent believers, so I
would say, and this is not science by any stretch.
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We talked. My address on Charlie Kirk yesterday was really
focused as a parent and gratitude for the influence he
had on my children. God could not have provided a
greater answer to prayer for me than the influence of
Charlie Kirk on my kids, least of which, and he
would have wanted it to be, least of which was
political influence. He reinforced the faith I raised them in
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as it was being challenged. We've talked about this before,
maybe not with all the affiliates we have. Now you
forget what it's like to be a kid. You haven't
felt peer pressure like school peer pressure in decades, for
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some of you a half a century, or the influence
of a teacher when you're sitting there, well, clearly this
person knows everything. That's why they're teaching. I know, I
don't know anything. I'm young. We raise our children for
those that raised them at home, some didn't. Some they've
been a daycare or a grandparent, whatever. But you instill
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a value, and then it goes to school, or it
goes to their sitcoms, or it goes to their dramas,
or it goes to their cartoons, or it goes to
their movies or their video games. And then you enter
social media, and then social media is just what what
we used to call peer pressure on steroids, and everybody
is attacking. Everybody's reinforcing the antithesis of the faith and
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values you raise them. And kids get confused. Wait a minute,
is this is my parents telling me something? But this
is the truth. The teacher says, that if the textbook
says it, I used to have these conversations every night,
shockingly at early grades. That's not true, Dad, this is
what the textbook. Let me see a textbook. Oh, it
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would take me hours a night to undo what they
were trying to instill. Then Charlie Kirk comes along and
he reaches them both eloquently, logically, compassionately, in a package
they just loved. That's why the first and foremost thing
yesterday we did was I established Look, if you're out
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of touch, if you're a grandparent, trust me, this is
a JFK big death for your grandkids. If you're a parent,
this is a MLK JFK all in one death. Get parenting.
Stop listening to the radio, stop surfing the internet, stop
watching Fox News, Go parent. This is a big death
for them. And if you've exposed yourself to this montage
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of videos that are hitting you from every direction, you're
learning quickly why you're scratching your head going where were
guys like this when I was young? He was that
impactful And I hope that's why, and I think that's
why jd. Vance is doing plus personal friendship and love.
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But oh, by the way, he may have delivered the
last election that you celebrate so much, but worse for
the left, and more importantly to the election of last year.
I still don't know what God ultimately did with this.
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One kid who started at eighteen, was done by thirty one,
never went to college, but revolutionized every college, every high school.
I don't know how to say it but this way,
but I don't want to say it this way. Is
he a John the Baptist of something to come? Has
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he in life and maybe even further in death, solidified
something for the next generation. You're praying for peace and
calm because I'll say it out loud. Nobody else seems
to I've been saying it out loud for two years.
We could go either way. We could become one and
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united again, prosperous and safe again. We are dangerously close
to a civil war. I don't live in hype and drama.
I don't try to rouse people up and be provocative.
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I calmly, confidently, rationally. Began a podcast two years ago
with David Zanati eighteen fifty Main Street, which was modeled
after ten years before the Civil War. Why because we
may be there right now, well now eight years away
and it doesn't take much to get there. You know,
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it's interesting. And this is not a shameless plug because
it's also someone from Nashville and also a premiere show.
But Clay and Buck, who took over for Rush Limbaugh,
Clay Travis had Clay Travis and Buck Sexton had a
caller yesterday and I think they said in words, it
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would be unfair to just single out this caller. This
is an ongoing sentiment we're hearing. This is bubbling, believe
it or not. Kind of like Katrina. The hurricane didn't
kill all those people. It was the next day when
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the levees breached, all these attacks, all this hate, all
this vitriol. I don't think that's what's going to do it.
Someone's trying to sucker what we'll do it. Now, when
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you have something like that assassination, I said, well, this
is different. This is either a turning point towards enough
because we all know we're living in nineteen sixty eight.
This is ridiculous. Presidents being shot, fought, leaders being shot,
and then it just stopped. Believe it or not, you
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credit the one you hate the most, Nixon. And the
strategy Nixon used was I'm not going to talk to
the right, and I'm not gonna talk to the left.
I'm going to assume the silent majority. How would we
apply that today. I'm not gonna look at the nuts
on the left or the right on the internet. I'm
not gonna let the few on the internet feel like
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the majority. Donald Trump needs to stop talking about the
crazy left and talk about the same center. If Nixon's
any clue, what concerns me most? Play the caller with Clambucker.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
I'm a huge Charlie Kirk fan. I take this deeply personal,
and I'm just gonna say, if another one of our
political figures or people that stand for what we believe
in get attacked, They're gonna awake a beast in conservatives
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and we're gonna stop taking a high road I love.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
And that's exactly what they want, and that's exactly what
they're provoking. This is your Morning show with Michael del Trono. Well,
I guess we'll always remember that, Jeffrey. When was the
first time we laughed after Charlie Kirk was killed? Uh?
It was Friday morning? Trying to sing but kiss, I
can't remember the words. I go blank? Why are you
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so mean? It's just started. Well, we start having this
casual conversation about Kiss, and you know, they actually put
Beth on the B side of Detroit. Was it Detroit
City or Detroit Rock City? Yeah, Detroit Rock City. And
of course when when the DJs got it, I mean,
it was a no brainer. So first we're debating. Kiss
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came out with an albu which was actually genius. They
it came to the house and it had like four
sleeves like it would open up four ways, and everybody
had their own album, so each member got to make
their own album. And I remember think that was the
kind of genius, you know, instead of you know, splitting
up and going So, you know, the Beatles should have
thought of that a ringo album. And I could have
swore Beth was on the Peter Cris one and you're saying, no,
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it was on on Destroyer. It was on Destroyer. So
then we're having that debate, and then that gets me
singing Beth on you, and then I guess I combined
three different verses and one sentence and two songs or
something like that. It was great. Well I didn't mix
I may have said something about Mandy. I don't know,
but it happened. It was our first moment of laughter. Anyway,
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all right, we're down to a minute. Let me I'm
very frustrated. Uh, you don't tell the American people we
got the gun, we got palm prints, we got close
ups of them, you know, we got ales, and we're
gonna have a news conference at three, and then you'd
cancel it at three because of rapid developments. And then
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I finally fall asleep ten o'clock and they still haven't
had their news conference yet, and when they do, they
don't have anything new. And cash Pttel, the head of
the FBI, fis all the way to Arizona and then
he just stands there, doesn't say anything. This is not
the level of communication rising to the moment. Let's hope
today is a better day on that front. But I
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will get you the very latest as best I can
when we come back after the break.
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definitely the shooter, we just don't know who he is
is yet. Remember those words, because that's about all this
segment is going to prove. Thirty five minutes after the hour,
Early Bird gets the worm. Don't be the sleepy squirrel,
don't miss the nut, rise and shine. Welcome to Friday,
September the twelfth, twenty twenty five. Hunter to serve you
on Michael, this is your morning show. Jeffrey has the sound,
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rhet has the content and a tickle in his throat.
If you're waking up this morning and you think I
think I'm a big shot, get that out of your mind.
Is there any question now if you're in all of
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the treatment Charlie Kirk is getting on earth right now.
That don't compare to the crowns that are waiting him
where he's going, where he really racked up the scoreboard.
But yesterday first and forem or most the body that
once housed this amazing spirit an individual had to come home.
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What a gesture to have the vice president of the
United You know, if I've died today, no Air Force
anything is coming for me being read in a U
haul and be gentle will you for a change? What
an honor. And I don't think it's any comfort to
Erica and the kids, but it's got to means it
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will mean something to them to have the Vice President
of the United States and Air Force two come to
the site of the horror of your life. You see
what you have to really appreciate and be grateful to
President Trump and Vice President Vance for that was their way.
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I mean, And I hope Erica realizes some day that
was all of us walking with her, standing with her.
We sent our figureheads, our plane, our country's plane, and
brought him home. Doesn't bring him back, but lets her
know what he meant, how much we love them, and
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he's home. That was very emotional and powerful to see
and very unique, frankly unprecedented. Can anybody think of anybody
civilian that was picked up in this manner that the
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President of the United States announces the day after his
death he's going to get the Medal of Honor, Medal
of Freedom. The Vice President and Air Force two picks
up the body with the family, brings them home. The funeral,
I presume is this weekend, and the President of the
United States is going to be there. I suspect the
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entire cabinet will be there. Want to be dramatic, I
promise I don't. I'll just leave it at this, Who
got assassinated, who died this week? Just from the view
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of how the body's being treated. Pretty special person, Okay,
that's that, And that was emotional. I criticize only because, look,
I live in Nashville and we had a shooting here.
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Manifestos found motive crystal clear, and it was all hidden,
all buried on purpose. I'm a little sensitive. Then we
have one in Minneapolis. They couldn't bury if they tried,
certain sources ignored. But I think everybody knows what trans
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genderism did to that shooter, the evil that existed within
that shooter, and the clear motive. And I suspect we're
going to relive that this time. But if you tell
the American people, we're gonna you know, you leak out
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and release the pictures, because the minute you have that
many pictures, and with the resources they have, it's inevitable
you're going to know who it is. But then you
suspend that news conference and then don't communicate to anybody,
but you do let them know that Cash Pattel, the
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FBI director, and Dan Bongino, the assistant, are on their
way to Utah because this is a rapidly developing situation. Well,
I haven't talked to him since then, Red didn't you
think that meant? I thought he's dead or they have
him and we're waiting for the director to get there
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to make the announcement. Then they don't communicate at all.
The name, yeah, or at least the name something. I mean,
everybody thought the name at least because you look, I
don't want to play god here. These always end the
same way. He's gonna kill himself before they get him,
or when they go to get him, there's gonna be
a shootout and he's gonna get killed by cob or
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they're gonna get him alive, good, But they're gonna get him.
It's a matter of when. And nobody thinks five days
and nobody thinks three days. But yesterday you were thinking
about one based on that and then they don't say
anything all afternoon, then all of a sudden, okay, it's
coming up within the hour, which it didn't. And then
when it does, other than the new video of them
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jumping off the roof, they didn't even offer anything new
cash Betzel didn't even speak. That could have been handled better.
But here's what we do know, and the trag is,
I'm really not going to say anything I couldn't have
said to you yesterday at twelve thirty, with the exception
of the video of him jumping off with the rifle,
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which that's big because now you have multiple shots. If
you have him walking down the street on ring camera,
limping because the rifle is wedged under his arm and
going down his pant leg that's how he limped all
the way to the side of the shooting. You got
multiple shots of him bare handed, touching railings and everything
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else that can go back and be traced, but they
pretty much traced him arriving and leaving. But when you
see him leaving with the gun in his hand and
then jumping, there's your guy. Now the question is who
is he? Officially college age wearing black shirt with a
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very distinct FULE logo, that didn't serve him very well
because because of the sweater, he wore, sweatshirt, he wore
t shirt, whatever it was. You can tell that's him.
On in the street, you can tell that's him. And
the stairwell you can tell that's him jumping off, So
you know he's the shooter.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
You have.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Multiple views of his face that can all be run through.
Now may have come back negative with nothing, but then
you have somebody knows him. So what does that tell us, Well,
he's not a professional assassin, because if he was, he
wasn't gonna miss. I don't think he was a bad
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shot by any stretch of the imagination. He was a
good shot. But this isn't a professional assassin. This is
probably somebody deranged over him. Over Charlie Kirk could have
wanted somebody higher but suddenly became deranged with him. Now
because of the earlier in the day finding of the
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rifle and the etched messages on the rifle and the ammunition,
this is sounding more like Minneapolis. This is sounding more
like Nashville. I'm guessing, and I can be wrong guessing,
but it's likely going to be transgenderism again, or he's
just copycatting the messaging, and the message is going to
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tell us what the motive was, what it was about.
Charlie Kirk, he hated Minneapolis. We did what no one
else did. And going through that twenty minute video, that
kid hated Christ first and foremost. And I even heard
demonic utterances when his camera hits the picture of Jesus.
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Some of the things he etched were involved in that.
For it being about transgenderism, he basically says he regrets
transgenderedism and felt manipulated into it. And I think because
of evil and because of Satan, he took it out
on children. His target was innocent children. So it's possible
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that this individual has copycatted that with etchings, and the
etchings can be something different or it's going to be
the same. But we know it's not a professional assassin.
We know it's been well planned. We know he's been
very familiar with the area. I will tell you something
else that I went back and studied, and you can
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do it frame by frame that shot, you know, because
I heard somebody on last night saying, well, he's obviously
not a professional assassin, but a good shot. But he
obviously didn't you know, he was either aiming for the
head and he didn't take into account distance and wind
and that's why it hit the neck. Or maybe he
was aiming for the chest and because of the recoil,
it came up a little high and that's why it
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got the neck. No, if you go back in slow motion,
it was a direct, precise hit in the heart. What
nobody has confirmed yet is was Charlie Kirk wearing a
bulletproof vest, because it sure looks like the bullet hits
right in the heart and ricochets up and takes out
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half his neck. So because of that, I'm not willing
to say a bad shot. In fact, I think a
very good shot, very well planned, but not like an assassin.
An assassin is gone in five seconds, leaves no trace,
and it's hard. I mean, that's another thing. It's hard
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to kill somebody and get away with it anymore. There's
cameras everywhere. Plus we leave not fingerprints, but life prints everywhere,
and so if a camera catches your face, you had
to spend your entire life never being on Facebook, never
being on X, never anything, not having many friends at all,
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and a professional assassin assassin makes the hit, They're gone.
I mean, that would have been somebody that jumped off
the roof, was on a motorcycle up in the hills,
picked up on a plane before you even figuring out
how Charlie was doing that. Clearly wasn't this so point
number one? Other than telling you it was a thirty
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hot to six rifle bolt action mouser imported in the
early nineteen hundreds, therefore probably bought at a gun show.
That'll be difficult to trace. But his palm prints on there,
the etchings are on there. He walked all through the
stairwell with his hand everywhere. They've got, you know, forearm print,
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palm print. I'm sure they've got fingerprints that got his face.
Somebody's gonna know him. It's just a matter of time.
He's definitely the shooter. I will give them that. In
last night's news conference, the video of him jumping off
the building, that's clearly him and he's not limping anymore,
which tells me that the ring is what we thought
it was. This guy doesn't have a limp. That was
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the gun. Him walking with the rifle in his pant
and under his arm, that's why he was limping. He
was running quite well. Afterwards. Then we've got also shots
of him in the neighborhood running, but it all points
to him. That's the guy going there, that's the guy shooting.
That's the guy jumping off the roof. Now who is he?
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That's what time will tell. Now why I had to
be aggravated for eight hours on that news count. They've
got to do better than this. This is like OJ
one toh one. I was only twenty eight thirty something
like that, and that was my concern. Then nobody follows
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the judicial system, but everybody followed O. And then everybody's
opinion about law and order and prosecution and court cases
and court rooms didn't come from movies. It came from
that case. And that case was a you know what show,
And I think everybody lost respect and trust for judges, lawyers,
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the judicial system, evidence, everything based on that case. This
is a big case. Handle it right, don't cancel a
news conference indefinitely, don't fly in the FBI director and
the assistant FBI director like you're going to make a big,
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rapidly advancing case and then deliver nothing. That's not doing
much for our trust either or frustration. So bottom line is,
I'm not I'm telling you anything other than the video
of him jumping off the roof, which is a biggie,
because that confirms it. All I could confirm prior to
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that was, well, that guy's walking funny like he's got
a rifle. Well, that guy's walking upstairs and taking an
interesting position to watch Charlie Kirk. But I still don't
have the rifle in his hand, and I'm shooting now.
I see him running after the shot with the rifle,
putting it down, then jumping off the building. Where will
the Prince lead? Where will the photos lead? The photos
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are gonna have to lead to somebody that knows him
and recognizes him. The Prince could lead somewhere. But right now,
we know we've seen the shooter. We know he's the shooter.
We just don't know who he is. And that's the
very latest.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
It's Your Morning Show with Michael del Chorno.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Authorities are releasing new video of the suspect in the
assassination of Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
At a press conference Thursday night, official shared footage that
shows the suspect jumping off.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Of a building near the scene of the shooting.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
Dined after being shot in the neck while speaking at
an outdoor turning point event at Utah Valle University Wednesday. Earlier,
the FBI released images of a slender man wearing a
backpack with a black hat shirt and dark sunglasses. The
Utah Department of Public Safety said earlier they had recovered
a high powered bolt action rifle and they believe the
person they're looking for is of college age.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
I'm Mark Mayfield, the former White House Press secretary under
President Biden, is scheduled to testify Friday in the GOP
probe of Biden's mental fitness in office.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
Kareein Jean Pierre previously agreed to do a closed door interview,
but it's unknown if she will plead the fifth and
not answer questions. The probe has been focused on Biden's
mental decline and the use of an auto pen. Republicans
say the use of the auto pen may make some
of Biden's pardons void.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
I'm Brian Shuk. Tensions are high on historically black colleges
and universities across the nation campuses after a day full
of threats led for campus lockdowns.
Speaker 6 (32:56):
This is at Alabama State University, Hampton University, Virginia Estate Clark, Atlanta, University,
Southern University, and Spelman to name a few, were disrupted
due to shelter and place orders. The FBI is investigating
the nature of the threats has not been revealed. Authorities
were also called out there say to investigate what turned
out to be nothing after a bomb threat was reported
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at the Democratic National Committee headquarters in Washington, d C.
I'm Tammy Trijio.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Comedy Central is pulling a recent South Park episode that
made fun of Charlie Kirk. Chris Karagio has more.
Speaker 7 (33:28):
The animated series premiered an episode on August sixth titled
Got a Nut, which included a character aimed at mimicking
the conservative commentator. Now in the wake of Kirk's death,
Comedy Central has decided not to air reruns of that episode,
but it's still available to stream on Paramount Plus. Despite
the episode appearing to poke fun at Kirk, he brushed
off the parody when asked about it during an interview
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and said, we as conservatives need to be able to
take a joke. We shouldn't take ourselves so seriously. I'm
Chris Karagio. Well, I may have gotten the words wrong,
but I knew the meaning of this song Beth. Many
artists admit the meaning of some of their songs are
very misunderstood.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
A line of.
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M Bruce Swingstey is Born in the USA is typically
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the good news is I can't hear Red choking in
my ear. The bad news is I think Red's choking
to death and we should call nine to one to one.
But other than that, it's gonna be some help. Good morning.
Maybe a little bourbon gurgle this morning that'll help it.
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Put a picture of help. Seven minutes after the hour
of Good Morning, Michael del Jorno, this is your morning show.
Jeffrey's got the sound, it's working. Red's got the content.
It's coughing. And if you're just waking up Charlie Kirk's body.
What a what an emotional scene that was. I mean,
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this is like I mean we have in our Sounds
of the Day, Rush Limbaugh so many years ago discussing
I met a kid named Charlie Kirk, and he literally
predicts that Charlie Kirk will be president. And the body
returning to Phoenix was presidential by all means. It was
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what a great gesture from Vice President Jade Vance and
the second lady to use Air Force two to go
and get Erica and the body and return at home
for services. And then the Vice President helping. I wouldn't
say he was caring, but just escorting along with the
military the casket and loading it onto the plane. It
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was the kind of thing you normally only see for
heads of state. It was, what an amazing tribute to
an amazing guy. But that's really kind of the latest,
the President signifying he will give him the Medal of
Freedom posthumously, that he will attend his funeral. There's been
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a couple of confusing reports. I believe the funeral will
be this weekend. On the investigative front, I tried to
stay up as long as I could did they ever
get around to having that news conference? And if they did,
I can tell you waking up this morning, there's not
much breakthrough. We do know the Mauser Bolt Action thirty
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US six was used. There are lots of discussions about
how difficult this may be technically. This is probably read
early nineteen hundreds rifle. It was imported. I mean, if
it was bought at a gun show, presumably the shooters
college age. He wasn't the one that imported. It'll be
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very difficult to find records, but there doesn't seem to
be from any of the pictures any gloves used, so
his hands are likely and prints are all over it.
There were early reports in the day of inscriptions very
similar to the shooter in Minneapolis, with writings on the
rifle and on the ammunition. That gets everybody thinking wisely,
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but thinking immediately, Okay, this is going to be transgendered related.
And I can tell you that that's the ultimate point'ment
make it a minute, so I don't want to get
ahead of myself. But if you're getting just bombarded and
I don't know what you're on. If you're on Facebook,
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could be in reels, if you're on TikTok, I mean
the level. And then Fox yesterday, pretty much every we
call an outro when you break from a show and
go to commercial was a short clip of Charlie Kirk
interacting with a college student. So in the course of
the day, many people have probably been exposed to Charlie
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Kirk in the way our kids had been exposed to
him daily. And now you're going, wow, what a nice guy, Wow,
what a godly guy. Wow, what a courageous guy to
have these debates with kids. Yeah, that was his whole intent.
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But through all of that, you have to scratch your
head and go wow. I don't want to say this
justifies it in any way, but this is how God
uses things for his good. We alluded to this yesterday.
It will sound different now knowing he's been martyred, it'll
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impact differently, but it's impacting more already. And so the
more you expose yourself to these things, the more people
that are going to be impacted by it. But one
of the things, and you know, I think atheism came
up a lot. Anybody that professes to be a Christian
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comes up with me a lot. People are offended by that.
We're not supposed to be offended that they don't believe,
but they're offended that we do. We don't call that
idiots for not believing, but we're always an idiot for
believing buying into a myth. I can tell you the
pendulum of like even Bill Maher has swung so much.
And I am seeing and I'm very Charlie Kirk in
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this way, and I'm very encouraged to see he's constantly
having believers on a show show, and I'm watching this
man is no longer attacking and mocking. He's searching, and
he's not even being contentious anymore. I think a very
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bad Catholic childhood was at the root of all this.
But he keeps having theologians on prominent believers, so I
would say, and this is not science by any stretch.
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We talked. My address on Charlie Kirk yesterday was really
focused as a parent and gratitude for the influence he
had on my children. God could not have provided a
greater answer to prayer for me than the influence of
Charlie Kirk on my kids, least of which, and he
would have wanted it to be, least of which was
political influence. He reinforced the faith I raised them in
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as it was being challenged. We've talked about this before,
maybe not with all the affiliates we have. Now you
forget what it's like to be a kid. You haven't
felt peer pressure like school peer pressure in decades, for
(07:28):
some of you a half a century, or the influence
of a teacher when you're sitting there, well, clearly this
person knows everything. That's why they're teaching. I know, I
don't know anything. I'm young. We raise our children for
those that raised them at home, some didn't. Some they've
been a daycare or a grandparent, whatever. But you instill
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a value, and then it goes to school, or it
goes to their sitcoms, or it goes to their dramas,
or it goes to their cartoons, or it goes to
their movies or their video games. And then you enter
social media, and then social media is just what what
we used to call peer pressure on steroids, and everybody
is attacking. Everybody's reinforcing the antithesis of the faith and
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values you raise them. And kids get confused. Wait a minute,
is this is my parents telling me something? But this
is the truth. The teacher says, that if the textbook
says it, I used to have these conversations every night,
shockingly at early grades. That's not true, Dad, this is
what the textbook. Let me see a textbook. Oh, it
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would take me hours a night to undo what they
were trying to instill. Then Charlie Kirk comes along and
he reaches them both eloquently, logically, compassionately, in a package
they just loved. That's why the first and foremost thing
yesterday we did was I established Look, if you're out
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of touch, if you're a grandparent, trust me, this is
a JFK big death for your grandkids. If you're a parent,
this is a MLK JFK all in one death. Get parenting.
Stop listening to the radio, stop surfing the internet, stop
watching Fox News, Go parent. This is a big death
for them. And if you've exposed yourself to this montage
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of videos that are hitting you from every direction, you're
learning quickly why you're scratching your head going where were
guys like this when I was young? He was that
impactful And I hope that's why, and I think that's
why jd. Vance is doing plus personal friendship and love.
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But oh, by the way, he may have delivered the
last election that you celebrate so much, but worse for
the left, and more importantly to the election of last year.
I still don't know what God ultimately did with this.
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One kid who started at eighteen, was done by thirty one,
never went to college, but revolutionized every college, every high school.
I don't know how to say it but this way,
but I don't want to say it this way. Is
he a John the Baptist of something to come? Has
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he in life and maybe even further in death, solidified
something for the next generation. You're praying for peace and
calm because I'll say it out loud. Nobody else seems
to I've been saying it out loud for two years.
We could go either way. We could become one and
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united again, prosperous and safe again. We are dangerously close
to a civil war. I don't live in hype and drama.
I don't try to rouse people up and be provocative.
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I calmly, confidently, rationally. Began a podcast two years ago
with David Zanati eighteen fifty Main Street, which was modeled
after ten years before the Civil War. Why because we
may be there right now, well now eight years away
and it doesn't take much to get there. You know,
(11:40):
it's interesting. And this is not a shameless plug because
it's also someone from Nashville and also a premiere show.
But Clay and Buck, who took over for Rush Limbaugh,
Clay Travis had Clay Travis and Buck Sexton had a
caller yesterday and I think they said in words, it
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would be unfair to just single out this caller. This
is an ongoing sentiment we're hearing. This is bubbling, believe
it or not. Kind of like Katrina. The hurricane didn't
kill all those people. It was the next day when
(12:23):
the levees breached, all these attacks, all this hate, all
this vitriol. I don't think that's what's going to do it.
Someone's trying to sucker what we'll do it. Now, when
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you have something like that assassination, I said, well, this
is different. This is either a turning point towards enough
because we all know we're living in nineteen sixty eight.
This is ridiculous. Presidents being shot, fought, leaders being shot,
and then it just stopped. Believe it or not, you
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credit the one you hate the most, Nixon. And the
strategy Nixon used was I'm not going to talk to
the right, and I'm not gonna talk to the left.
I'm going to assume the silent majority. How would we
apply that today. I'm not gonna look at the nuts
on the left or the right on the internet. I'm
not gonna let the few on the internet feel like
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the majority. Donald Trump needs to stop talking about the
crazy left and talk about the same center. If Nixon's
any clue, what concerns me most? Play the caller with Clambucker.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
I'm a huge Charlie Kirk fan. I take this deeply personal,
and I'm just gonna say, if another one of our
political figures or people that stand for what we believe
in get attacked, They're gonna awake a beast in conservatives
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and we're gonna stop taking a high road I love.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
And that's exactly what they want, and that's exactly what
they're provoking. This is your Morning show with Michael del Trono. Well,
I guess we'll always remember that, Jeffrey. When was the
first time we laughed after Charlie Kirk was killed? Uh?
It was Friday morning? Trying to sing but kiss, I
can't remember the words. I go blank? Why are you
(14:29):
so mean? It's just started. Well, we start having this
casual conversation about Kiss, and you know, they actually put
Beth on the B side of Detroit. Was it Detroit
City or Detroit Rock City? Yeah, Detroit Rock City. And
of course when when the DJs got it, I mean,
it was a no brainer. So first we're debating. Kiss
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came out with an albu which was actually genius. They
it came to the house and it had like four
sleeves like it would open up four ways, and everybody
had their own album, so each member got to make
their own album. And I remember think that was the
kind of genius, you know, instead of you know, splitting
up and going So, you know, the Beatles should have
thought of that a ringo album. And I could have
swore Beth was on the Peter Cris one and you're saying, no,
(15:15):
it was on on Destroyer. It was on Destroyer. So
then we're having that debate, and then that gets me
singing Beth on you, and then I guess I combined
three different verses and one sentence and two songs or
something like that. It was great. Well I didn't mix
I may have said something about Mandy. I don't know,
but it happened. It was our first moment of laughter. Anyway,
(15:37):
all right, we're down to a minute. Let me I'm
very frustrated. Uh, you don't tell the American people we
got the gun, we got palm prints, we got close
ups of them, you know, we got ales, and we're
gonna have a news conference at three, and then you'd
cancel it at three because of rapid developments. And then
(15:59):
I finally fall asleep ten o'clock and they still haven't
had their news conference yet, and when they do, they
don't have anything new. And cash Pttel, the head of
the FBI, fis all the way to Arizona and then
he just stands there, doesn't say anything. This is not
the level of communication rising to the moment. Let's hope
today is a better day on that front. But I
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will get you the very latest as best I can
when we come back after the break.
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definitely the shooter, we just don't know who he is
is yet. Remember those words, because that's about all this
segment is going to prove. Thirty five minutes after the hour,
Early Bird gets the worm. Don't be the sleepy squirrel,
don't miss the nut, rise and shine. Welcome to Friday,
September the twelfth, twenty twenty five. Hunter to serve you
on Michael, this is your morning show. Jeffrey has the sound,
(17:22):
rhet has the content and a tickle in his throat.
If you're waking up this morning and you think I
think I'm a big shot, get that out of your mind.
Is there any question now if you're in all of
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the treatment Charlie Kirk is getting on earth right now.
That don't compare to the crowns that are waiting him
where he's going, where he really racked up the scoreboard.
But yesterday first and forem or most the body that
once housed this amazing spirit an individual had to come home.
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What a gesture to have the vice president of the
United You know, if I've died today, no Air Force
anything is coming for me being read in a U
haul and be gentle will you for a change? What
an honor. And I don't think it's any comfort to
Erica and the kids, but it's got to means it
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will mean something to them to have the Vice President
of the United States and Air Force two come to
the site of the horror of your life. You see
what you have to really appreciate and be grateful to
President Trump and Vice President Vance for that was their way.
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I mean, And I hope Erica realizes some day that
was all of us walking with her, standing with her.
We sent our figureheads, our plane, our country's plane, and
brought him home. Doesn't bring him back, but lets her
know what he meant, how much we love them, and
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he's home. That was very emotional and powerful to see
and very unique, frankly unprecedented. Can anybody think of anybody
civilian that was picked up in this manner that the
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President of the United States announces the day after his
death he's going to get the Medal of Honor, Medal
of Freedom. The Vice President and Air Force two picks
up the body with the family, brings them home. The funeral,
I presume is this weekend, and the President of the
United States is going to be there. I suspect the
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entire cabinet will be there. Want to be dramatic, I
promise I don't. I'll just leave it at this, Who
got assassinated, who died this week? Just from the view
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of how the body's being treated. Pretty special person, Okay,
that's that, And that was emotional. I criticize only because, look,
I live in Nashville and we had a shooting here.
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Manifestos found motive crystal clear, and it was all hidden,
all buried on purpose. I'm a little sensitive. Then we
have one in Minneapolis. They couldn't bury if they tried,
certain sources ignored. But I think everybody knows what trans
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genderism did to that shooter, the evil that existed within
that shooter, and the clear motive. And I suspect we're
going to relive that this time. But if you tell
the American people, we're gonna you know, you leak out
(21:20):
and release the pictures, because the minute you have that
many pictures, and with the resources they have, it's inevitable
you're going to know who it is. But then you
suspend that news conference and then don't communicate to anybody,
but you do let them know that Cash Pattel, the
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FBI director, and Dan Bongino, the assistant, are on their
way to Utah because this is a rapidly developing situation. Well,
I haven't talked to him since then, Red didn't you
think that meant? I thought he's dead or they have
him and we're waiting for the director to get there
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to make the announcement. Then they don't communicate at all.
The name, yeah, or at least the name something. I mean,
everybody thought the name at least because you look, I
don't want to play god here. These always end the
same way. He's gonna kill himself before they get him,
or when they go to get him, there's gonna be
a shootout and he's gonna get killed by cob or
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they're gonna get him alive, good, But they're gonna get him.
It's a matter of when. And nobody thinks five days
and nobody thinks three days. But yesterday you were thinking
about one based on that and then they don't say
anything all afternoon, then all of a sudden, okay, it's
coming up within the hour, which it didn't. And then
when it does, other than the new video of them
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jumping off the roof, they didn't even offer anything new
cash Betzel didn't even speak. That could have been handled better.
But here's what we do know, and the trag is,
I'm really not going to say anything I couldn't have
said to you yesterday at twelve thirty, with the exception
of the video of him jumping off with the rifle,
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which that's big because now you have multiple shots. If
you have him walking down the street on ring camera,
limping because the rifle is wedged under his arm and
going down his pant leg that's how he limped all
the way to the side of the shooting. You got
multiple shots of him bare handed, touching railings and everything
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else that can go back and be traced, but they
pretty much traced him arriving and leaving. But when you
see him leaving with the gun in his hand and
then jumping, there's your guy. Now the question is who
is he? Officially college age wearing black shirt with a
(23:58):
very distinct FULE logo, that didn't serve him very well
because because of the sweater, he wore, sweatshirt, he wore
t shirt, whatever it was. You can tell that's him.
On in the street, you can tell that's him. And
the stairwell you can tell that's him jumping off, So
you know he's the shooter.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
You have.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Multiple views of his face that can all be run through.
Now may have come back negative with nothing, but then
you have somebody knows him. So what does that tell us, Well,
he's not a professional assassin, because if he was, he
wasn't gonna miss. I don't think he was a bad
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shot by any stretch of the imagination. He was a
good shot. But this isn't a professional assassin. This is
probably somebody deranged over him. Over Charlie Kirk could have
wanted somebody higher but suddenly became deranged with him. Now
because of the earlier in the day finding of the
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rifle and the etched messages on the rifle and the ammunition,
this is sounding more like Minneapolis. This is sounding more
like Nashville. I'm guessing, and I can be wrong guessing,
but it's likely going to be transgenderism again, or he's
just copycatting the messaging, and the message is going to
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tell us what the motive was, what it was about.
Charlie Kirk, he hated Minneapolis. We did what no one
else did. And going through that twenty minute video, that
kid hated Christ first and foremost. And I even heard
demonic utterances when his camera hits the picture of Jesus.
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Some of the things he etched were involved in that.
For it being about transgenderism, he basically says he regrets
transgenderedism and felt manipulated into it. And I think because
of evil and because of Satan, he took it out
on children. His target was innocent children. So it's possible
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that this individual has copycatted that with etchings, and the
etchings can be something different or it's going to be
the same. But we know it's not a professional assassin.
We know it's been well planned. We know he's been
very familiar with the area. I will tell you something
else that I went back and studied, and you can
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do it frame by frame that shot, you know, because
I heard somebody on last night saying, well, he's obviously
not a professional assassin, but a good shot. But he
obviously didn't you know, he was either aiming for the
head and he didn't take into account distance and wind
and that's why it hit the neck. Or maybe he
was aiming for the chest and because of the recoil,
it came up a little high and that's why it
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got the neck. No, if you go back in slow motion,
it was a direct, precise hit in the heart. What
nobody has confirmed yet is was Charlie Kirk wearing a
bulletproof vest, because it sure looks like the bullet hits
right in the heart and ricochets up and takes out
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half his neck. So because of that, I'm not willing
to say a bad shot. In fact, I think a
very good shot, very well planned, but not like an assassin.
An assassin is gone in five seconds, leaves no trace,
and it's hard. I mean, that's another thing. It's hard
(27:38):
to kill somebody and get away with it anymore. There's
cameras everywhere. Plus we leave not fingerprints, but life prints everywhere,
and so if a camera catches your face, you had
to spend your entire life never being on Facebook, never
being on X, never anything, not having many friends at all,
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and a professional assassin assassin makes the hit, They're gone.
I mean, that would have been somebody that jumped off
the roof, was on a motorcycle up in the hills,
picked up on a plane before you even figuring out
how Charlie was doing that. Clearly wasn't this so point
number one? Other than telling you it was a thirty
(28:24):
hot to six rifle bolt action mouser imported in the
early nineteen hundreds, therefore probably bought at a gun show.
That'll be difficult to trace. But his palm prints on there,
the etchings are on there. He walked all through the
stairwell with his hand everywhere. They've got, you know, forearm print,
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palm print. I'm sure they've got fingerprints that got his face.
Somebody's gonna know him. It's just a matter of time.
He's definitely the shooter. I will give them that. In
last night's news conference, the video of him jumping off
the building, that's clearly him and he's not limping anymore,
which tells me that the ring is what we thought
it was. This guy doesn't have a limp. That was
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the gun. Him walking with the rifle in his pant
and under his arm, that's why he was limping. He
was running quite well. Afterwards. Then we've got also shots
of him in the neighborhood running, but it all points
to him. That's the guy going there, that's the guy shooting.
That's the guy jumping off the roof. Now who is he?
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That's what time will tell. Now why I had to
be aggravated for eight hours on that news count. They've
got to do better than this. This is like OJ
one toh one. I was only twenty eight thirty something
like that, and that was my concern. Then nobody follows
(29:56):
the judicial system, but everybody followed O. And then everybody's
opinion about law and order and prosecution and court cases
and court rooms didn't come from movies. It came from
that case. And that case was a you know what show,
And I think everybody lost respect and trust for judges, lawyers,
(30:23):
the judicial system, evidence, everything based on that case. This
is a big case. Handle it right, don't cancel a
news conference indefinitely, don't fly in the FBI director and
the assistant FBI director like you're going to make a big,
(30:43):
rapidly advancing case and then deliver nothing. That's not doing
much for our trust either or frustration. So bottom line is,
I'm not I'm telling you anything other than the video
of him jumping off the roof, which is a biggie,
because that confirms it. All I could confirm prior to
(31:05):
that was, well, that guy's walking funny like he's got
a rifle. Well, that guy's walking upstairs and taking an
interesting position to watch Charlie Kirk. But I still don't
have the rifle in his hand, and I'm shooting now.
I see him running after the shot with the rifle,
putting it down, then jumping off the building. Where will
the Prince lead? Where will the photos lead? The photos
(31:27):
are gonna have to lead to somebody that knows him
and recognizes him. The Prince could lead somewhere. But right now,
we know we've seen the shooter. We know he's the shooter.
We just don't know who he is. And that's the
very latest.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
It's Your Morning Show with Michael del Chorno.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Authorities are releasing new video of the suspect in the
assassination of Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
At a press conference Thursday night, official shared footage that
shows the suspect jumping off.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Of a building near the scene of the shooting.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
Dined after being shot in the neck while speaking at
an outdoor turning point event at Utah Valle University Wednesday. Earlier,
the FBI released images of a slender man wearing a
backpack with a black hat shirt and dark sunglasses. The
Utah Department of Public Safety said earlier they had recovered
a high powered bolt action rifle and they believe the
person they're looking for is of college age.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
I'm Mark Mayfield, the former White House Press secretary under
President Biden, is scheduled to testify Friday in the GOP
probe of Biden's mental fitness in office.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
Kareein Jean Pierre previously agreed to do a closed door interview,
but it's unknown if she will plead the fifth and
not answer questions. The probe has been focused on Biden's
mental decline and the use of an auto pen. Republicans
say the use of the auto pen may make some
of Biden's pardons void.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
I'm Brian Shuk. Tensions are high on historically black colleges
and universities across the nation campuses after a day full
of threats led for campus lockdowns.
Speaker 6 (32:56):
This is at Alabama State University, Hampton University, Virginia Estate Clark, Atlanta, University,
Southern University, and Spelman to name a few, were disrupted
due to shelter and place orders. The FBI is investigating
the nature of the threats has not been revealed. Authorities
were also called out there say to investigate what turned
out to be nothing after a bomb threat was reported
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at the Democratic National Committee headquarters in Washington, d C.
I'm Tammy Trijio.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Comedy Central is pulling a recent South Park episode that
made fun of Charlie Kirk. Chris Karagio has more.
Speaker 7 (33:28):
The animated series premiered an episode on August sixth titled
Got a Nut, which included a character aimed at mimicking
the conservative commentator. Now in the wake of Kirk's death,
Comedy Central has decided not to air reruns of that episode,
but it's still available to stream on Paramount Plus. Despite
the episode appearing to poke fun at Kirk, he brushed
off the parody when asked about it during an interview
(33:51):
and said, we as conservatives need to be able to
take a joke. We shouldn't take ourselves so seriously. I'm
Chris Karagio. Well, I may have gotten the words wrong,
but I knew the meaning of this song Beth. Many
artists admit the meaning of some of their songs are
very misunderstood.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
A line of.
Speaker 5 (34:11):
M Bruce Swingstey is Born in the USA is typically
viewed as a patriotic song when it's actually an anti
war song. Many believe that the Police is nineteen eighty
three Smash Every Breath You Take, a song about obsession
and stalking, was a romantic love song, and in nineteen
eighty one Billy Squire said people thought The Stroke was
(34:31):
a new dance. Squire said that in reality, the Stroke
is a song about manipulation by Mark Mayfield.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Packers now two and Zer beating the Commanders. Last night
On Thursday Night Football twenty seven eighteen, Tigers lost, Guardians,
Ones raised, and Angels lost, and the Podres shut out
the Rockies two to nothing. Birthday singer Oscar winning actress
Jennifer Hudson forty four, Actress Sidney Sweeney looks terrific in
Genes twenty eight, Baseball great Freddie Freeman of the Dodges
(34:59):
thirty five. And if it's your birthday, Happy birthday. We're
so glad you were born, and thanks for making your
morning show a part of your big day. We're all
in this together. This is your Morning Show with Michael Ndheld,
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